WIMBLEDON 2012 - SINGLES: Mens and Ladies Discussion thread (info in first posts)

[DaveArneRiise]

Benny great approach Fed nets with BH pass. 6-6!!!!!!

[DaveArneRiise]

Benny goes long with a BH! 7-6 FED. SP and Fed to serve!

[Hawkeye]

I'm going to say, looks like Benneteau's chance has gone, in the hope that he proves me wrong...

[DaveArneRiise]

Benny nets and this is going into the 5th. Nerves of steel from Fed.

[Manaus]

Onto the 5th it is. How much energy does Benny have left though?

[RoastLamb]

3-3. Federer looks rattled. Here for the taking.

I think he can see the light at the end of the tunnel now.

[DaveArneRiise]

Hats off to Benny for making this the match at is. Great effort from him regardless of the outcome of this 5th set. He could still win this you know

[rondun]

Yes, it's a much better match to watch than last night's.Although you do have a point - they are quite annoying

[JAMES4578]

Benny close but couldn't pull the final trigger, what a dramatic breaker! Looks like we won't see a huge upset 2 nights in a row though!

[Linda]

Aaaargh a Fed shirt change is not something I wanted to see *shudder*

Allez Benny! :swingin:

Cazza, I retweeted you :)

[DaveArneRiise]

At 2009 paris masters Benny beat Fed 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-4. He's done it before.

BTW has Fed ever come back from 2 sets down to win?

[RoastLamb]

At 2009 paris masters Benny beat Fed 3-6, 7-6(4), 6-4. He's done it before.

BTW has Fed ever come back from 2 sets down to win?

Yes, I think Potty was 2 sets up in RG 2009. Or was it Haas? One of 'em.

One tweeter said that the day after Rafa lost RG in '09 Fed was two sets down, and not only did he come back to win that match he won the whole tournie. :eek:

[DaveArneRiise]

Yes, I think Potty was 2 sets up in RG 2009. Or was it Haas? One of 'em.

One tweeter said that the day after Rafa lost RG in '09 Fed was two sets down, and not only did he come back to win that match he won the whole tournie. :eek:

Your'e right with Del Potro, just checked was RG this year. Fed won 3-6, 6-7(4), 6-2, 6-0, 6-3

[cazza99]

oop (http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule13.html) up for Saturday. http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule13.html

Andy is 3rd on Centre.

[DaveArneRiise]

Oh no Benny looks hurt now. This would be a sad way to end. He's suffering with somthing.

[Manaus]

Oh no Benneteau has a problem with his knee! Real shame if Benneteau lost this set due to injury!

[DaveArneRiise]

oop (http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule13.html) up for Saturday. http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule13.html

Andy is 3rd on Centre.

Rosol relegated to court 12 after his stunning win :rolling:

[Alis]

Rosol relegated to court 12 after his stunning win :rolling:

Had to be!

Benny has won his last 4 five setters seemingly.

[RoastLamb]

Oh no Benny looks hurt now. This would be a sad way to end. He's suffering with somthing.

I think he may be starting to cramp. And he can't get help for that.

[Linda]

Well, he got a bit of massage from the trainer.

[DaveArneRiise]

I think he may be starting to cramp. And he can't get help for that.

He's not pushing up on his serve so yes could well be cramp. Cramp does pass though.

[DaveArneRiise]

Benny will go for a lot more now though, try to shorten the points so could be dangerous to Fed.

Fed stepping it up here though. 15-40 2 BP;S

[RoastLamb]

Well, he got a bit of massage from the trainer.

Oh he did? That must have been during our ad break.

Oh no! 2 BPs for Fed. :sad:

[Manaus]

Fed gets the early break. Think Fed might run away with this set now.

[Linda]

Oh no, Fed breaks :sad:

[DaveArneRiise]

Stunning FH from the Fed Man to seal the break! He looks in the zone now.

[rondun]

Yeah - I thought you couldn't get treatment for cramp. Would be a poor way for it to end, though.

[RoastLamb]

Runaway match. Gotta give Fed credit. Plus he looks a lot fitter and fresher. Still, it must give Djoko some hope I think.

[JAMES4578]

Fed breaks and easily holds for 4-1, surely no way back now! Pity for Benny!

[Linda]

Oh no, Fed breaks :sad:

Benny is knackered. He can't do it. :sad:

[DaveArneRiise]

Just 1 break. Never know, but yes Fed looks like he has this in the bag.

[rondun]

ATP super told him he can't have any more massage

[Hawkeye]

ATP super told him he can't have any more massageDoubt that, ATP have nothing to do with this tournament.

[Manaus]

Yeah I think that's it. Unless Fed starts acting like a muppet which is extremely unlikely.

[Linda]

Oh *stuff you don't want to step in*

[JAMES4578]

Just 1 break. Never know, but yes Fed looks like he has this in the bag.

2 breaks now and Fed will serve for it at 5-1, it's all over sadly.

[rondun]

Pity.
But I'm looking forward to PseudoFeds blog!;)

[DaveArneRiise]

Hats off to Benny for the monstrous effort and making it such a spectacle.

Well done Federer for turning this around. Stunning effort, and shows again why he is such a phenomenal athlete.

[Linda]

Carp. :sad:

[Manaus]

Good attempt by Benneteau though, hats off to him.

[Linda]

Well, what is obvious is that Fed is way below the level of Djoko.

[RoastLamb]

Benny did very well - I expected this to be a routine three-setter for Fed. So well done to him. Too bad he couldn't win that fourth set tb. But Federer is just the better and fitter player.

[DaveArneRiise]

Well, what is obvious is that Fed is way below the level of Djoko.

Not sure about that. Nole dropped a set to Steppy and was pushed by Harrison previously. I'd say they are on the same level at the moment.

[wriggles]

Benny did very well - I expected this to be a routine three-setter for Fed. So well done to him. Too bad he couldn't win that fourth set tb. But Federer is just the better and fitter player.

Im glad fed got through..surely he's the only one that can take something out of nole

[Alis]

What a pity Benny couldn't pull it off - major upsets two nights running would have been amazing. It really annoys me how biased some of the commentators are - Becker in particular.

[RoastLamb]

Im glad fed got through..surely he's the only one that can take something out of nole

I don't want him to take something out of Nole. :lol: I kinda want Djoko to beat him in the semi. I think Andy has a better chance against Djoko than Fed in a final. I mean in a perfect world I'd like both of them out before the final but that won't happen.

[DaveArneRiise]

Maliise is capable of pushing Federer. Youzhny too, Gasquet is he plays his best could really cause Nole problems. They both should reach the semis but you never know.

[rondun]

Im glad fed got through..surely he's the only one that can take something out of noleI hope he beats Nole now.
And Andy beats him in the final.

[DaveArneRiise]

I hope he beats Nole now.
And Andy beats him in the final.

Ditto Andy will have better chance against Fed. Reason why Benny did so well is he attacked Fed's BH, Andy has a superb BH and he could cause mayhem for Fed with the cross court BH battle.

[jamie&andy's fan]

So glad Roger's through :D

[RoastLamb]

Ditto Andy will have better chance against Fed. Reason why Benny did so well is he attacked Fed's BH, Andy has a superb BH and he could cause mayhem for Fed with the cross court BH battle.

Fed has got a good backhand. I can't see Andy beating Fed in a GS final. If Fed gets there he will win.

[Linda]

Rubbish. I can see Andy beating him, if they both get that far. Andy already has a positive H2H against Fed. Fed's backhand is really weak, that is why Rafa has always been able to beat him.

[david1610]

Im glad fed got through..surely he's the only one that can take something out of nole
I would prefer to put it that hopefully both of them can take a lot, a lot, a lot out of each other!!!!
I do not really care about Andy doing "the first" the elegant way, I just want the first because that will open the door!

[Manaus]

As many people thought Rosol not able to play anywhere near the level he played against Nadal. 2 sets down against Kohly.

[rondun]

No, 2-0 down in 49 minutes on court 12.

to bump earth down with a <- rearrange these words into a sentence

[david1610]

It's almost a law of tennis, isn't it?

[JAMES4578]

Well really expected Kohli to beat him, but maybe not so comfortably. Mind you it's a breaker in the 3rd but Rosol goes down 8-6. Serena lost the first to Zheng on the breaker but has taken 2nd 6-2. Will be a wee before Andy M, of course Ferrer and Andy R to follow.

[DaveArneRiise]

Drive through Rosol ;)

[RoastLamb]

Rubbish. I can see Andy beating him, if they both get that far. Andy already has a positive H2H against Fed. Fed's backhand is really weak, that is why Rafa has always been able to beat him.

Bit harsh from you, Linda! :shocked: Andy has lost against Fed in both finals they were in. I think Fed being a 6-time champ has a distinct advantage over him in that scenario. And his backhand is not weak. Maybe not the best of the top men's but not really weak. Of course, having said all of that there's nothing I'd like to see more than Andy beat Fed in the Wimbly final.

[david1610]

Just picked up from the Wimbledon site that if Roddick beats Ferrer today in the third round,....
there will be NO Spanish players in the last 16 !!!! :confused:

[Alis]

I think an Andy/Fed final wouldl be competely different to the previous two. Andy is two years older and so is Fed. Andy has improved both his serve and his backhand, he has Lendl in his corner and it would be on home turf. All these things would definitely work in Andy's favour. There is nothing I would like better than to see Andy beat Fed at Wimbledon but I don't see Fed getting past Djoko.

[RoastLamb]

Rosol went out in straights. :rolleyes: Bye bye! Won't miss ya!

[ljs]

Rosol went out in straights. :rolleyes: Bye bye! Won't miss ya!

so predictable eh , the conqueror goes out the next round

[Alis]

just picked up from the wimbledon site that if roddick beats ferrer today in the third round,....
There will be no spanish players in the last 16 !!!! :confused:

wow!!!

[RoastLamb]

so predictable eh , the conqueror goes out the next round

Yes, I bet Kohli was so relieved to see this guy across the net rather than Rafa. :rolling:

[-J-]

Just picked up from the Wimbledon site that if Roddick beats Ferrer today in the third round,....
there will be NO Spanish players in the last 16 !!!! :confused:maybe the french tv campaign has them worried ;)

[RoastLamb]

Am really hoping Ferru beats Roddick. He's the better player so he should but...

[Alis]

Am really hoping Ferru beats Roddick. He's the better player so he should but...

I'm not sure - Roddick's found some form of late and grass is his favourite surface and Ferru's least.

[rondun]

Of course, having said all of that there's nothing I'd like to see more than Andy beat Fed in the Wimbly final.Thats why I want him to beat Nole. If Andy only wins one Slam then I hope he does it against Fed, so that the goat can't say Andy never beat him in a slam final.
Djoko would never be so "humble"!
(And after winning I hope Andy climbs up to his box and proposes to Kim -try topping that, Fed!)

[-J-]

Thats why I want him to beat Nole. If Andy only wins one Slam then I hope he does it against Fed, so that the goat can't say Andy never beat him in a slam final.
Djoko would never be so "humble"!
(And after winning I hope Andy climbs up to his box and proposes to Kim -try topping that, Fed!)i just want a knee slide into the net with both middle finger raised in salute to the GOAT

[rondun]

Wow Shevedova got a "golden bagel" against Errani - won every point in the set!

[KnightOwl]

Incredible, wasn't it - they were saying it had only happened once before, and that was a men's match back in the 80's - didn't catch who, but still amazing...!

[Alis]

Well done Shevedova!

[JAMES4578]

Yes simply incredible, hope Shevedova can play well against Serena who had a batttle with Zheng today, just coming through 9-7 in the 3rd.

[KnightOwl]

Has somebody been giving Fed humble lessons :confused:

Just seen an interview with him in the studio with Sue Barker, and that's the second interview of his this week where I haven't wanted to smack him. I think he may be growing as a person ;)

Edit: ...or I am :shamed:

[Sallydaisy]

Has somebody been giving Fed humble lessons :confused:
:faint:

Roddick is 3-0 up in the first set against Ferrer.
:shades:

[RoastLamb]

Blimey Roddick! I so don't want a repeat of the 2009 semi-final. :sad:

[KnightOwl]

Commies have just asked if anyone had thought to check Ferrer's identity as he came on court - they seem to think he may be an impostor :)

[Manaus]

Roddick wiping the floor with Ferrer at the moment, 4-0!

[KnightOwl]

Blimey Roddick! I so don't want a repeat of the 2009 semi-final. :sad:

No, me neither - I would want him to win this time round :big grin:

Can't see it happening though!

[cazza99]

Has somebody been giving Fed humble lessons :confused:

Just seen an interview with him in the studio with Sue Barker, and that's the second interview of his this week where I haven't wanted to smack him. I think he may be growing as a person ;)

Edit: ...or I am :shamed:

He always seems to be more polite, especially about oor Andy, during the Wimbledon fortnight, while he is more under the eyes of the British peeps and press.

[JAMES4578]

Certainly a blistering start from A Rod, though Ferrer just on the board. David only getting 31% of first serves in atm though.

[rondun]

Has somebody been giving Fed humble lessons :confused:

Just seen an interview with him in the studio with Sue Barker, and that's the second interview of his this week where I haven't wanted to smack him. I think he may be growing as a person ;)

Edit: ...or I am :shamed:http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c130/rondun/amcom/ban.gif

[supergran]

Has somebody been giving Fed humble lessons :confused:

Just seen an interview with him in the studio with Sue Barker, and that's the second interview of his this week where I haven't wanted to smack him. I think he may be growing as a person ;)

Edit: ...or I am :shamed:No, he was just being smarmy. He name-dropped a lot and was his usual arrogant self I thought. I still wanted to smack him and also ask him who his hairdresser was?:lol:

[RoastLamb]

Certainly a blistering start from A Rod, though Ferrer just on the board. David only getting 31% of first serves in atm though.

Ferru is up a break in the second. Keeping my fingers crossed.

[KnightOwl]

Fabulous game as A-Rod breaks back - on serve in the second, with Roddick 1 set up...

[cazza99]

We want this to be a 5 setter tp tire them out. Same with Cilic vs Querrey. Cilic has won the first set and is serving for the second set.

[JAMES4578]

Ferrer looked to be in the ascendancy not so long ago, needs to get back on track but Roddick certainly stepped it up.

[supergran]

Have to go in other room now as supergramps up from his nap. Enjoy Andy's match everybody when it eventually gets under way. LET'S GO ANDY, LET'S GO:cheer::grass2::cheer:

[RoastLamb]

I have to go out in less than three hours so if it is a five-setter then Andy's match will probably end late with the roof closed so ESPN will only cover that match which means I can tape it and watch when I get back. Convoluted sentence but ESPN has a tendency to show any other match rather than Andy's.

[RoastLamb]

Ferru takes the second set tb. :yahoo:

Isn't anyone concerned about Potty? He just seems to be winning his matches somewhat effortlessly.

Great comeback for Mardy Fish as well. Fourth round after being off for months. Amazing! :clap:

[JAMES4578]

Ferrer looked in trouble but a great effort to come out on top in that breaker! Del Potty seems to be in form, though has said he needs to step it up for the forthcoming match. Kudos to Fish, doing really well!

[RoastLamb]

Let's not forget Brian Baker either. Fourth round for him. Incredible. Americans are doing quite well!

[traveller7]

I havent looked through these posts so sorry if I am repeating what anyone else has said.
I watched the Nadal match and was shocked as most people were to see him get knocked out, though I feel his shots werent quite as on it as usual.
The only thing that annoyed me was his lack of sportsmanship towards Rosol. He complained about Rosol bouncing about when he was serving which isnt illegal and not as annoying as his butt plucking,nose plucking habit he has which incidently has got worse cos he does it now when he is waiting for a serve AND at change of ends when he is sitting down. Has noone told him it looks disgusting?! He also takes on average 26seconds to serve when the limit is 20 seconds, why is he not fined for this wasting time. He is wasting on average half a minute per game which soon adds up.
But the thing that annoyed me the most was when he nudged Rosol at changing of ends. Rosol had waited for him to go past to his seat and nadal purposely nudged past by him. They replayed it on BBC and its obvious not something I have ever seen from Nadal before, I am sure he was peeved he was losing but there is no need for that.
Anyway rant over. It was a good match, shame Rosol is now out but what a win for him.

[DaveArneRiise]

Must say JMDP looked very good against Kei. Another dangerous player in Andy's side of the draw.

Tsonga looking good again, Set and a break up against Lacko.

Qurrey is fighting back against Cilic. Won the 3rd set tie breaker and is now a break up in the 4th.

[RoastLamb]

Missed the last couple of games in the Ferru-Rodduck match but now Ferru is 2-1. :yahoo:

[JAMES4578]

Yes Ferrer putting Andy R under pressure now and stepping it up on the return. A Rod will need to find another gear to extend this. Querrey certainly fighting back well, looked like Cilic would take it in straights not so long ago. Though Cilic has just broken back for 4 all.

[rondun]

Arghh - what are the BBC playing at - this is doing my head in!
Glad I'm not recording this

[-J-]

Arghh - what are the BBC playing at - this is doing my head in!
Glad I'm not recording thisgetting trigger finger

[Hawkeye]

I know, I was really looking forward to watching Raiders of the Lost Ark!

[cazza99]

I know, I was really looking forward to watching Raiders of the Lost Ark!
:rolling:

[david1610]

Has anybody seen that before?
Roddick was just broken so he asked for Hawkeye to try and show his serve (called in) was out!!!! :)

[DaveArneRiise]

Has anybody seen that before?
Roddick was just broken so he asked for Hawkeye to try and show his serve (called in) was out!!!! :)

Seen that a couple of times yes, perfectly within the rule book. I thought the serve was out too but Haweye showed it called the line, which was good for Ferrer as he bashed it back for a winner.

[JAMES4578]

yes lol but suppose Andy had to go for it! An easy hold for 5-3 so looks like Ferrer has the measure of A Rod.

[Linda]

Come on Ferru! :swingin: Get it done!

[david1610]

Well time to get ready for the next Andy!

[RoastLamb]

well done Ferru!

[DaveArneRiise]

Tsonga has beaten Lacko in straight sets. Him and Del Potro are looking excellent, Pity they are both on Andy's side of the draw.

Qurrey looks as if he is going to win this 4th set tie breaker to take Cilic into a decider after being 2 sets down.

[Linda]

Very happy for Daveed! :cheer:

[wriggles]

Tsonga has beaten Lacko in straight sets. Him and Del Potro are looking excellent, Pity they are both on Andy's side of the draw.

Qurrey looks as if he is going to win this 4th set tie breaker to take Cilic into a decider after being 2 sets down.

would prefer querrey to win, i think andy could dismantle him...cilic takes me back to US open 2009 days ergh

[cazza99]

would prefer querrey to win, i think andy could dismantle him...cilic takes me back to US open 2009 days ergh

Querrey beat Andy at Queen's once though.

[cazza99]

Querrey and Cilic are into a 5th set and are on serve.

[cazza99]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis

Hundreds of people queuing for Monday. MONDAY! Today is Saturday!!! http://pic.twitter.com/GbayN6iv

[Nina]

Cilic breaks and serving for the match

[DaveArneRiise]

Cilic breaks and serving for the match

Broken! 6-6 in the decider, got to win by two games now.

[cazza99]

Cilic was serving for the match at 6-5 in the fifth by got broken by Querrey and they are now 6-6 in the fifth.

[Nina]

Broken! 6-6 in the decider, got to win by two games now.

That's good
even better

[Sallydaisy]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis
Oh dear, doesn't bode well for my plans for queueing for gound passes.
Someone got there at 5am this morning and was given queue card 2290!
:shocked:

[Alis]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis

............. but the second Monday is the best day at Wimbledon - both men and women playing 4th round plus umpteen doubles

[cazza99]

............. but the second Monday is the best day at Wimbledon - both men and women playing 4th round plus umpteen doubles

And peeps have the time to queue as its the weekend.

[dewster99]

how long has the cilic match been going on?

[RoastLamb]

how long has the cilic match been going on?

Too flipping long. And ESPN is showing it and not Andy. :grrr:

[JAMES4578]

how long has the cilic match been going on?

4 hrs 25, 8-7 to Sam in 5th! Cilic did serve for it earlier.

[Sallydaisy]

Cilic held so SQ is serving at 8-8 in the 5th.

[dewster99]

good stuff. Was hoping it was a long one cos Cilic especially is not known for his fitness

[Sallydaisy]

10 all, Cilic held to 30.

[cazza99]

how long has the cilic match been going on?

I went onto slam tracker and hid the courts and clicked on momentum graph - there is a figure 4.46 at the bottom right which I assume is the length of the match so far.

[Linda]

This could turn into another Isner-Mahut - except that I think they've put a cap on the number of games now. So presumably it will be a tiebreak eventually - not sure when - 15 all?

[Sallydaisy]

They've got the right Umpire in the chair for the job!

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser) Bit of déjÃ* vu for BBC commentator Ronald McIntosh? He was the man in the box for Isner v Mahut in 2010. #Wimbledon (https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23Wimbledon)



I think they have to go to 30-30 before a tie-break kicks in; would need to check.

[KnightOwl]

The Umpire for Isner v Mahut was MoLay, wasn't it? I think they're referring to the commentator....

[cazza99]

Cilic serving for the match at 16-15

[JAMES4578]

Yes Cilic has another shot here! Robson/Inglot put out Melzer/Benesova 6-1 in the 3rd, great stuff! Marian wins 17-15!

[Sallydaisy]

Cilic wins 17-15 in the 5th

[rondun]

The Umpire for Isner v Mahut was MoLay, wasn't it? I think they're referring to the commentator....Yes he's the commentator - painful listening.

[Alis]

Couldn't be more painful than Bradman on the Murray match!

[cazza99]

oop for Monday - http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html
Andy is on court 1

[rondun]

Couldn't be more painful than Bradman on the Murray match!No true, Bradnam is the worst by a long way - especially when he teams up with Frew Mcmillan. Its like an audition for the "Scottish play"

But 'Ronald Macdonald' is just a really bad commentator, I have no idea how he got the job

[DaveArneRiise]

Tsonga is the man I fear the most with regard to Andy's chances.

[Helen40]

No true, Bradnam is the worst by a long way - especially when he teams up with Frew Mcmillan. Its like an audition for the "Scottish play"

But 'Ronald Macdonald' is just a really bad commentator, I have no idea how he got the job
Who's this Bradnam bloke, I saw his name alongside Mac and Tim's today, and just went 'who's he?'

[Helen40]

This could turn into another Isner-Mahut - except that I think they've put a cap on the number of games now. So presumably it will be a tiebreak eventually - not sure when - 15 all?

New one on me, can you give me a link to your source.

[Helen40]

Tsonga has beaten Lacko in straight sets. Him and Del Potro are looking excellent, Pity they are both on Andy's side of the draw.

Hopefully that'll be a long match and they will still be suffering and Andy will beat a tired out Cilic easily.

[Jan]

well done to Laura and Dom - great win for them!

[Sallydaisy]

Wimbledon - the Last 16 Men

[1]Djokovic v Troicki
[18]Gasquet v [31]F.Mayer

[3]Federer v Malisse
Falla v [26]Youzhny

[7]Ferrer v [9]Del Potro
[16]Cilic v [4]Murray

[5]Tsonga v [10]Fish
B.Baker v [27]Kohlschreiber

The only quarter which has gone to seeding is Andy's.......
:shades:

[cazza99]

And Andy has the hardest quarter and Federer the easiest.

[rondun]

Who's this Bradnam bloke, I saw his name alongside Mac and Tim's today, and just went 'who's he?'He's the sneering poisonous witch who takes every opportunity to have a go at "Eeeeeeendy", and can rarely commentate on a match without mentioning "grumpy teenager" or Harry Enfield or bringing up various "incidents" from 6 or more years ago.

[Alis]

Bradnam is an absolute idiot - is knowledgeable about nothing and has an opinion about everything. After the French Open last year he was voted the most unpopular commie by the public and I don't think he was asked back this year - I certainly didn't hear him thank goodness. I can't believe the Beeb gave him the Murray match.

[pabbers]

Wimbledon - the Last 16 Men


The only quarter which has gone to seeding is Andy's.......
:shades:

:shocked: :cauldron:

Let's hope it doesn't go to seed!!

[Sallydaisy]

Put that mouldy green cauldron away will you!
:laugh:

It's bad news that Andy's 1/4 have gone to seed ..... he's still got the hardest task of the top 4 ahead of him. The other quarters include a smattering of much lower ranked players as a result (i.e. they're easier!).

[supergran]

Bradnam is an absolute idiot - is knowledgeable about nothing and has an opinion about everything. After the French Open last year he was voted the most unpopular commie by the public and I don't think he was asked back this year - I certainly didn't hear him thank goodness. I can't believe the Beeb gave him the Murray match. Cannot stand the man. The commies may be discussing anything and he tries to bring chat back to a) Andy's injuries or b) Andy's "on-court behaviour" Said to supergramps who is one of the most objective and calm sports watchers I know.."Just listen out..." He said to me later (as we were in separate rooms) "You're right, he doesn't miss an opportunity to bring the subject round to Andy's detriment...he seems to want to criticise him all the time" Now, if SG has noticed, even though I told him to listen, it is obvious that it is not just we avid Andy supporters who recognise his malice.

[super8]

And Andy has the hardest quarter and Federer the easiest.

That's going by rankings, not by form though.

JMDP, Ferru, Cilic have all struggled as soon as they played anyone half-decent - Robin Haase, A-Rod, and Querry. none of them have ever beaten a top 10 player at SW19 - and none of them have ever gone beyond round 4 before.

Grass is Ferru and JMDP's worst surface - and Cilic was losing to Nalbandian at Queen's before Nalby got himself disqualified.

But if - even after the Rosol and Benneteau matches - everyone still insists on looking at rankings alone, then fair enough.

[super8]

Wimbledon - the Last 16 Men

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Falla v [B][26]Youzhny


I'm thinking it's Youzhny v Istomin (Falla was knocked out by Istomin).

[Sallydaisy]

Yep, blanked out the wrong name! OOPs
Off to Wimbers, will fix tonight.
:strawberry:

[pabbers]

That's going by rankings, not by form though.

JMDP, Ferru, Cilic have all struggled as soon as they played anyone half-decent - Robin Haase, A-Rod, and Querry. none of them have ever beaten a top 10 player at SW19 - and none of them have ever gone beyond round 4 before.

Grass is Ferru and JMDP's worst surface - and Cilic was losing to Nalbandian at Queen's before Nalby got himself disqualified.

But if - even after the Rosol and Benneteau matches - everyone still insists on looking at rankings alone, then fair enough.

Erm - didn't A-Rod beat a certain Andy Murray in the semis a few years back???? Or was Andy not top 10 then - I can't remember?

[super8]

Erm - didn't A-Rod beat a certain Andy Murray in the semis a few years back???? Or was Andy not top 10 then - I can't remember?

It is Ferrer, JMDP and Cilic who have never done this.

ARod of course has!

The aspect of players who do well on grass and belying their ranking - and vice versa - is important.

I hadn't realised what a poor record Isner had on grass, for example. 4 appearances at SE19 - and he has 2 wins (both against Mahut!) and 4 losses.

[cazza99]

That's going by rankings, not by form though.

JMDP, Ferru, Cilic have all struggled as soon as they played anyone half-decent - Robin Haase, A-Rod, and Querry. none of them have ever beaten a top 10 player at SW19 - and none of them have ever gone beyond round 4 before.

Grass is Ferru and JMDP's worst surface - and Cilic was losing to Nalbandian at Queen's before Nalby got himself disqualified.

But if - even after the Rosol and Benneteau matches - everyone still insists on looking at rankings alone, then fair enough.

Its nice to have it put that way.:)

[cazza99]

Caroline Cheese ‏@CarolineCheese


Now, I'm not saying the forecast is bad. But they've just cancelled all junior doubles matches today. At 11.13am #wimbledon

[WimbledonAce]

Wouldn't say ferrer struggled against arod. Lost the first 6-2 but due to getting used to conditions etc Im sure. Also he won the title on grass week before so looks like he is fairly comfortable now on the surface.

[cazza99]

Darren Cahill ‏@darren_cahill

Hawkeye being calibrated on Center Court. #ESPN10s http://pic.twitter.com/9Vu62UEH

[RoastLamb]

What's the weather like now? Disappointed that Andy's not on CC but c'est la vie.

[cazza99]

They are playing at the moment.

[david1610]

JMDP, Ferru, Cilic have all struggled as soon as they played anyone half-decent - R...... none of them have ever beaten a top 10 player at SW19 - and none of them have ever gone beyond round 4 before.

Almost a pity the statistic about Ferrer and del Potro will change today, unless one of them retires!

[RoastLamb]

Serena and Shvedova a set apiece. Petra in trouble vs Franscesca. :shocked:

[supergran]

Come on Petra!!!!!

[wriggles]

wow marias screaming seems extra loud today, my ears!

[RoastLamb]

wow marias screaming seems extra loud today, my ears!

Watching Serena. Which is almost as bad but not quite. :rolling:

[RoastLamb]

What's up with Malisse? He gets the break, all he has to do is hold serve and then he gets broken right back, goes on to lose the tb. And Fed is injured. POO!

[wriggles]

so rain delay on court 1..but they havnt pulled the covers over..huh?

[Fina]

so rain delay on court 1..but they havnt pulled the covers over..huh?

Yes, seemed strange when the covers were pulled over CC immediately.

But the covers are now off CC - guess Fed's painkillers or whatever his MTO was, will have now had time to kick in.

[dewster99]

just play the damn game! If the court doesn't need covering then get them out there, it's pathetic. I've slipped and taken plenty of tumbles on a tennis court in wet conditions, it's really not that dangerous. They stop play far too easily. If it's just in the air the grass isn't gonna change for a long time anyway so unless it's gonna rain for an hour or so it's barely gonna make any difference

[JAMES4578]

They're back on centre now, Malisse will feel he missed a chance in that first set and he's now a break down in the 2nd. Apparently decision simply taken by the umpire on the outside courts, but on centre and 1 it's up to the referees. Sharapova a set down to Lisicki,would expect that to go to 3. Earlier serena got through 7-5 in the 3rd against Shevedova despite having a breadstick in the first. Kvitova certainly under pressure earlier but now running away with the 3rd at 5-1,Schiavone wasn't keen to play on earlier. Youzhny is up 2 sets to 1 on Istomin.

[traveller7]

its spitting with rain again so the roof will have to go on at some point why didnt they just put it on before they came back out just dont understand their mindset?

[traveller7]

Good lord I see what someone means about the shrieking gone up a notch switched over from smugs match to this so could see when murray is on court. Blimey Lisicki is up 3-0

[wriggles]

Yes, seemed strange when the covers were pulled over CC immediately.

But the covers are now off CC - guess Fed's painkillers or whatever his MTO was, will have now had time to kick in.

:laugh:

[dewster99]

oh for goodness sake finish her I've got work at 5

[JAMES4578]

Tight final game but Lisicki causes big upset putting out Sharapova 6-4, 6-3.

[DaveArneRiise]

Great performance from Lisicki!

[RoastLamb]

Argh! There goes my pickem winner! :crying: But I'm pleased for Lisicki. Really like her.

Also glad Petra managed to win. Gets Serena next. Both their matches went to 3 today.

Kim is really struggling. :sad:

[traveller7]

I like Lisicki really likeable player always smiling
Come on Andy!!!

[pabbers]

So thrilled for Lisicki. OK Andy time - bring it on!

[Manaus]

Hmmm...Fed just lost the 3rd set.

[DaveArneRiise]

Kerber is cruising against Clijsters 6-1 3-0

Youzhny and Istomin into a decider

[RoastLamb]

Oh kimmie! :crying: :crying: :crying:

[JAMES4578]

Pity to see Kim annihilated 6-1, 6-1 but Kerber has been one to watch. Fed now serving for the match at 5-3 in the 4th, Istomin has broken for 4-3 in the 5th.

[traveller7]

Ah shame about Kim being her last Wimbledon.

[WimbledonAce]

Ah shame about Kim being her last Wimbledon.

Ditto, harsh she got the court 3 treatment.

[DaveArneRiise]

Kim's last Wimbledon too. What a phenomenal athlete she has been.

[DaveArneRiise]

Youzhny has beaten Istomin 7-5 in the 5th! Mayer up a break versus Gasquet and Fish took first set versus Tsonga!

[RoastLamb]

Fish took the first set off Tsonga??? No way! :shocked:

[-J-]

ta

[DaveArneRiise]

He did, Tsonga perhaps struggling with the conditions or something. Annoying that it's not on the red button. I still can't see Fish winning that though. Tsonga will prevail.

Mayer took first set v Gasquet 6-3

[RoastLamb]

Shoot! Ritchie is down a set also? Blimey! What a day.

[WimbledonAce]

Any mention of Feds injury and his miraculous recovery? No? Thought not.

[Alis]

Ditto, harsh she got the court 3 treatment.

That's what I thought too - maybe they thought she'd come through it but Kerber has been playing well.

[RoastLamb]

Yuck! Well I guess this means I am stuck with Azashrieky for a while. :sad:

[WimbledonAce]

Can't see any more play today on outside courts. They said, at least all the womens matches will be complete - whoopy doo. Even if Andy finishes his next opponent won't. Shambles!

[Alis]

Surely, surely with the score in Andy's match as it is - if they have time left when Djoko finishes they'll put him on Centre to finish. They'd be mad not to.

Interesting to hear that the ATP offficial they interviewed on Sky this morning is going for an Andy/Djoko final - thinks that the difficult draw will actually work in his favour in the long run i.e. coming through all the difficult matches will give him extra confidence.

[-J-]

Surely, surely with the score in Andy's match as it is - if they have time left when Djoko finishes they'll put him on Centre to finish. They'd be mad not to.

Interesting to hear that the ATP offficial they interviewed on Sky this morning is going for an Andy/Djoko final - thinks that the difficult draw will actually work in his favour in the long run i.e. coming through all the difficult matches will give him extra confidence.is there time for the nightmare scenario ie nole sees of triocki quickly so they put ferrer match on

[WimbledonAce]

is there time for the nightmare scenario ie nole sees of triocki quickly so they put ferrer match on

Don't think there is time. Would imagine they have been sent home.

[-J-]

Don't think there is time. Would imagine they have been sent home.hope not :lol:

[WimbledonAce]

It really is typical. As if Nole and Fed need any extra help they are gifted the roof on the worst day of weather.

[traveller7]

Surely it makes sense to put a match on thats already started than a match that hasnt begun, regardless of whether its andy or not. The schedulers need a rocket up their behind!

[-J-]

Surely it makes sense to put a match on thats already started than a match that hasnt begun, regardless of whether its andy or not. The schedulers need a rocket up their behind!they dont like swapping courts if the match has started

[traveller7]

Yeah thats understandable if stupid

[ljs]

I wonder how the players would feel about switching courts when the match is already underway ?

[traveller7]

Azarenka has won already in 2 easy sets

[-J-]

I wonder how the players would feel about switching courts when the match is already underway ?i would imagine they would quite like to finish today so woludnt mind, but i think its because people have payed for court number1 tickets and wouldn't get in to center if moved, tho of course if it held over till tomorrow then no one sees it (todays ticket holders)

[MurrayAOne]

I think they have to finish where they started.

[-J-]

I think they have to finish where they started.no i remember them moving Andy (roland garros?) but think they try not to

[MurrayAOne]

no i remember them moving Andy (roland garros?) but think they try not to

Don't think they'd do it here - but I wish they would.

[VamosVixs]

Didn't it happen at the USO when Andy beat Rafa?

[-J-]

Didn't it happen at the USO when Andy beat Rafa?was it new york, you might be right just a distant memory of them moving mid match

[pabbers]

Can't see the problem in moving it - it clearly says on the Wimbly info that I was reading in advance of going on Wed that the ticket entitles you to watch a match on a particular court but not a particular set of players - so tough luck if those on Court 1 miss out - they're not going to see it anyways. As for the players - if the match moves, it's the same for them both so wouldn't be unfair at all IMHO. So frustrated. Hissing down here as well - was supposed to be playing in a fun village 3 golf club tournie but not in this I'm not!

[Bardot]

The Ladies 4th round is complete and their quarter-finals are scheduled for tomorrow when the weather forecast is also not good so surely priority should be given to the Men's singles on Centre Court. They could start early with 2 incomplete matches and then arrange the schedule as the day progresses. There's such a lack of common sense coupled with this ridiculous abidance to archaic traditions.

[-J-]

Can't see the problem in moving it - it clearly says on the Wimbly info that I was reading in advance of going on Wed that the ticket entitles you to watch a match on a particular court but not a particular set of players - so tough luck if those on Court 1 miss out - they're not going to see it anyways. As for the players - if the match moves, it's the same for them both so wouldn't be unfair at all IMHO. So frustrated. Hissing down here as well - was supposed to be playing in a fun village 3 golf club tournie but not in this I'm not!think oor 3 club comp is tomorrow night

[cazza99]

For anyone who is new or does not know - we have a thread for discussing tickets and who is going etc here - http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?686-Wimbledon-2012-Ballot-Tickets-who-s-going/page38

[super8]

Ivanovic v Vika
Djokovic v Troicki

The dullest matchups in each of the draws.

And SW19 put them both on centre court - with the risk of rain - and therefore, that this would be all that they'd have to show.

And on Centre Court at prime time too!

Really, what is going on?

[-J-]

22 minute second set 28 for the first

[-J-]

heres a question not sure if anyone knows , but dose ladies quarter final day sell as many tickets and gents quarters ?

[cazza99]

heres a question not sure if anyone knows , but dose ladies quarter final day sell as many tickets and gents quarters ?

they both sell out.

[-J-]

they both sell out.do they? i was reading that today(super Mondays) has record crowds now hows that possible if every other day is sold out to ?

[-J-]

nole has the break in third just 2 more games required

[traveller7]

Nole serving for the match

[Hawkeye]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[traveller7]

All over by 19.55

[cazza99]

do they? i was reading that today(super Mondays) has record crowds now hows that possible if every other day is sold out to ?

Dunno. I guess its how many they let in the grounds.

Just thought, debentures may not sell out, but they go for sale on ticketmaster.

[cazza99]

British Tennis ‏@BritishTennis

There will be no more play at Wimbledon tonight following the conclusion of Djokovic v Troicki. Play starts at 12 on show courts tomorrow.

[cazza99]

Brian Baker ‏@BBakesTennis

Rained out for the day. Get to do it all over again tomorrow. I did at least win the coin toss!

[Linda]

Just typical that Fed, once again, gets his match finished first whilst everyone else suffers rain delays. Poor Ferru & JMDP haven't even started their match - I can't understand why they haven't put it on Centre now as Nole finished quite early, there's another three hours they could have used! I understand, though, why they put the women on first as their next matches are tomorrow whilst the men's are Wednesday.

[-J-]

ferrer v del p first on centre tomorrow, can see andy not playing till wednesday now

[Linda]

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser
Murray vs Cilic to resume at high noon on Court 1 tomorrow. Let us hope that it isn't raining. #Wimbledon.

[wriggles]

why is lisicki v kerber on centre court tomo?! im so confused hasnt she just played today?! do they normally play womens 4th round and quarters the day after?!

[Lizzim]

why is lisicki v kerber on centre court tomo?! im so confused hasnt she just played today?! do they normally play womens 4th round and quarters the day after?!

Yes, tomorrow is technically Ladies quarter finals day...the men should not be playing at all.

[cazza99]

why is lisicki v kerber on centre court tomo?! im so confused hasnt she just played today?! do they normally play womens 4th round and quarters the day after?!
the second half of the draw play consecutive days on the Monday and Tuesday.

[wriggles]

the second half of the draw play consecutive days on the Monday and Tuesday.

ohh ok thanks thought i was going mad lol...i guess they havnt had any tough womens matches today so recovery easy

[WimbledonAce]

Nothing to do with second half of the draw. All the draw should have played today and all the women did. All the women are due to play tomorrow. As far as they go they are on schedule. Is the men with problems.

[-J-]

the second half of the draw play consecutive days on the Monday and Tuesday.dont all the ladies play monday tuesday ?

[cazza99]

dont all the ladies play monday tuesday ?

oops yup. The first half get an extra day off at the weekend.

[-J-]

oops yup. The first half get an extra day off at the weekend.same as the men top half havnt played since Friday

[DaveArneRiise]

Federer and Nole are going to get an extra days rest. Murray is going to have to play consecutive days provided he reaches the latter part of the tournament. It's just sickening.

[rouges]

It's an absolute disgrace the way they've scheduled Andy's matches, our best player is being treated with contempt, the LTA knows well that rain is forcast until Thursday and they put Andy on court 1 today and he will have to carry on there. Ferrer and Del P will finish tomorrow, they are on Centre but not Tsonga, Gasquet or Andy. It's plain that they favour Federer and Novak because they don't think Andy can win, I pray he does and stick the fingers at them. Shameful, I quite agree with John McEnroe. Anyone agree with me ?

[-J-]

It's an absolute disgrace the way they've scheduled Andy's matches, our best player is being treated with contempt, the LTA knows well that rain is forcast until Thursday and they put Andy on court 1 today and he will have to carry on there. Ferrer and Del P will finish tomorrow, they are on Centre but not Tsonga, Gasquet or Andy. It's plain that they favour Federer and Novak because they don't think Andy can win, I pray he does and stick the fingers at them. Shameful, I quite agree with John McEnroe. Anyone agree with me ?100%
tell you what really worry's me and this may well just be me but i think part of the reason andy has had post slam slumps in the past is because he has been hit by bad luck and andy may well believe he is jinxed i just hope being disadvantaged again like this dosnt leed andy to think same old luck and mentally give in

[supergran]

Interesting post Jay....And we people of celtic origins do sometimes get down if things seem to conspire against us. Let's hope this isn't the case and Andy's grit and determination raise his spirits and his game. Just like to add to the Wimbledon organisers...A plague on all your houses!!!

[rouges]

I am so disgusted that I sent an email to the them and gave them a piece of my mind. Told them they should be ashamed of themselves. Do you think Spain Switzerland or Serbia would favour Andy before their own ? does anyone think that except the people in the LTA

[jaysee]

Nothing to do with second half of the draw. All the draw should have played today and all the women did. All the women are due to play tomorrow. As far as they go they are on schedule. Is the men with problems.
It's ridiculous putting ANY of the women's matches on centre tomorrow in the circumstances. If all the women played Monday - Wednesday - Thursday - Saturday it would make no difference from the scheduled Monday - Tuesday - Thursday - Saturday.

However with rain forecast all day tomorrow and very likely no play except on Centre, they're going to end up being unfair to both the women and the men. Some of the women's semi-finalists will have a day off before Thursday and some not; and of course some of the men (including Andy) will be expected to play Wednesday-Thursday-Friday-Sunday if they get that far, whilst those in the less competitive half of the draw get a day off between each match!:grrr::grrr::grrr:

[-J-]

I am so disgusted that I sent an email to the them and gave them a piece of my mind. Told them they should be ashamed of themselves. Do you think Spain Switzerland or Serbia would favour Andy before their own ? does anyone think that except the people in the LTAnot a LTA decision tho, Wimbledon is ran by a mainly AELTC committee

[-J-]

oop
http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

[Alis]

There is a place for 'Feed Back' on the Wimbledon site - it takes a bit of finding but it might just be worth us all letting them know how we feel. I've just sent them a diatribe - probably won't help but it made me feel better!

[cazza99]

Wimbledon ‏@Wimbledon

Rain has stopped, covers are coming off, play will start asap at #Wimbledon http://pic.twitter.com/zVg3rnox

Matches are on the BBC red button from now, before the scheduled 12.00 pm start, but play has not started yet.

[DaveArneRiise]

Dave and JMDP up and running. JMDP with break point in opening game.

[dewster99]

if this start is any guide to how the rest of the match will be then andy could end up being the fresher player lol