View Full Version : Davis Cup 2013 - E-A Zone I. **MATCH/TEAM DISCUSSIONS** GBR v Russia: 5-7 April, Coventry Arena.
Sallydaisy
19-09-2012, 14:07
DC, Euro - Africa Zone, Group 1.
Great Britain v Russian Federation
GB have a Bye in R1 (played February 2013)
Friday 5th - Sunday 7th April 2013.
Venue to be confirmed.
The teams ... also to be confirmed but here's the players from whom team captains can make their choices.
RUSSIAN SINGLES PLAYERS - top 10
29 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
48 Davydenko, Nikolay (RUS)
88 Bogomolov Jr., Alex (RUS)
96 Andreev, Igor (RUS)
116 Kuznetsov, Andrey (RUS)
121 Donskoy, Evgeny (RUS)
125 Tursunov, Dmitry (RUS)
149 Kunitsyn, Igor (RUS)
160 Gabashvili, Teymuraz (RUS)
217 Kravchuk, Konstantin (RUS)
BRITISH SINGLES PLAYERS - top 10
3 Murray, Andy (GBR)
210 Goodall, Josh (GBR)
247 Baker, Jamie (GBR)
252 Ward, James (GBR)
296 Evans, Daniel (GBR)
340 Bogdanovic, Alex (GBR)
364 Smethurst, Daniel (GBR)
396 Bloomfield, Richard (GBR)
411 Ward, Alexander (GBR)
444 Cox, Daniel (GBR)
RUSSIAN DOUBLES PLAYERS - top 10
60 Elgin, Mikhail (RUS)
89 Bogomolov Jr., Alex (RUS)
122 Youzhny, Mikhail (RUS)
152 Kudryavtsev, Alexander (RUS)
173 Donskoy, Evgeny (RUS)
177 Tursunov, Dmitry (RUS)
199 Kravchuk, Konstantin (RUS)
210 Gabashvili, Teymuraz (RUS)
216 Matsukevitch, Denis (RUS)
289 Kunitsyn, Igor (RUS)
BRITISH DOUBLES PLAYERS - top 10
21 Marray, Jonathan (GBR)
34 Fleming, Colin (GBR)
35 Hutchins, Ross (GBR)
46 Murray, Jamie (GBR)
47 Inglot, Dominic (GBR)
56 Skupski, Ken (GBR)
61 Delgado, Jamie (GBR)
85 Murray, Andy (GBR)
207 Thornley, Sean (GBR)
225 Eaton, Chris (GBR)
As of now Russia are 17th in the DC rankings; GBR are 35th.
Russia have been in the World Group for the last 20 years and being knocked out by losses to Austria and then Brazil must have hurt. They'll want to be back in the World Group a.s.a.p. They've won the Davis Cup trophy twice - in 2002 and again in 2006. As we all know it's 76 years since GBR won it.
Fair to say that our doubles players are in with a good shout at this tie; if only we had 8 guys in the singles top 100 too. I think if Andy plays and wins 2 singles we've a very good chance of beating Russia ('cos I think we can win the doubles with Fleming/Hutchins). If Andy doesn't play I suspect we'll be staying in Group 1 for 2014.
Success doesn't depend solely on rankings ... but the playing experience of those within the top 100 would likely outweigh that of players who normally compete at Challenger or Futures level.
For many countries national events like Davis Cup are considered far more important than normal tournament play. The Olympics (also an ITF event) are held in very high regard for a lot of countries and gold medal winners are heroes.
What that does is often bring out the very best from players who might otherwise not perform well at normal tournament level and, IMHO, in many cases that has been the extra element that has beaten GBR at DC ties.
Where might it be held?
A lot depends on:-
- whether Andy plays and if he's got a preference of surface given it'll be the week after Miami which is on outdoor hard courts (bringing to an end 3 months of mostly outdoor hard court play).
- whether the LTA decide (if Andy plays) that they want it at a bigger venue e.g. 3000+ so more people can see our global superstar
- whether the LTA have a 'job lot' booking deal with Braehead Arena giving Andy the chance to go 'home' during DC ties (an incentive perhaps?).
There is a 2-week 'break' for the top players between Miami (ends 31st March, Easter Sunday) and Monte Carlo (starts Monday 15th April). So playing on indoor hard probably won't hinder Andy as long as he's out on the clay by the Wed/Thur before MC.
The tie takes place the 2nd w/end of the school Easter holidays in the UK so it won't clash with the Easter/religious weekend but there might be a lot of people away on their holibobs.
Anyhow - that's my tuppence worth.
This one's going to be tough.
Sallydaisy
19-09-2012, 16:02
For anyone wondering why we are not playing in February as expected ...
Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser) GB the only one of seven unseeded nations to receive bye, hence no tie in February #DavisCup (https://twitter.com/search/?src=hash&q=%23DavisCup)
Steven @GBtennis (https://twitter.com/GBtennis) Tiny chance of a home tie comes off! Top seeds* but a straight R2 promotion tie.
RT @stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser): Great Britain play Russia at home on 5-7 Apr
* I think Steven means that Russia are the top seeds for Group 1 in 2013. DC hasn't yet updated it's website with the new groups for 2013.
There is a 2-week 'break' for the top players between Miami (ends 31st March, Easter Sunday) and Monte Carlo (starts Monday 15th April). So playing on indoor hard probably won't hinder Andy as long as he's out on the clay by the Wed/Thur before MC.
That's great news. I think there's a good chance Andy might play in this one. :clap:
Without him, if I've read the draw right, we could be facing another relegation tie against Poland, but away this time...:sofa:
Pity there's still no back-up to Andy though.
The list of British singles players above makes for sorry reading. Seem to remember people raving about Dan Evans but look where he is now.
supergran
19-09-2012, 19:54
Davis Cup 2013. Bye then play Russia at home 5-7th April.
After all the talk of it being a 90% chance of an away tie, we get a home one again! Just as well really, as it's so close to Monte Carlo - I couldn't really take any more time off then as it's the busiest time of year at work. If it's a home tie I can usually do it without taking any holiday from work (I don't work Fridays) although if it goes to a 5th rubber I sometimes have to leave before the end. At least it doesn't clash with Easter this time (which is why I couldn't go this year).
I really hope Andy will play this tie - I don't think we stand a chance without him.
supergran
19-09-2012, 20:15
Wonder where it will be. Could it be Braehead again if Andy is playing?
Oh, please not Braehead :rolleyes:
themass15
19-09-2012, 20:29
Agree with Linda, we don't stand a chance without Andy. Hopefully it will be in London or Birmingham this time.
oh, please not braehead :rolleyes:
abs?
Agree with Linda, we don't stand a chance without Andy. Hopefully it will be in London or Birmingham this time.sure braehead has a three year deal or summit
Ah now, Edinburgh is a place I've always intended to visit but never got round to. So I wouldn't object, although obviously it's still a really long way to come and in fairness I think we're due a tie down South - or at least in the Midlands.
the Midlands is down south:confused:
Ah now, Edinburgh is a place I've always intended to visit but never got round to. So I wouldn't object, although obviously it's still a really long way to come and in fairness I think we're due a tie down South - or at least in the Midlands.cant agree but thats old ground thats been covered a number of times, i kinda fancy somewhere out side Glasgow my self me nice to do the whole hotel thing
the Midlands is down south:confused:as is ayrshire
as is ayrshire
relative to some
The geographical centre of Great Britain is in Lancashire somewhere so there can be no disputing the southernness of "the Midlands"
the Midlands is down south:confused:
The reason they're called the Midlands is because they're between North and South.
cant agree but thats old ground thats been covered a number of times, i kinda fancy somewhere out side Glasgow my self me nice to do the whole hotel thing
Are there any suitable venues near Paisley?
The reason they're called the Midlands is because they're between North and South.
I refer the honourable lady to my post above
Isn't Paisley just up the road from Braehead? :confused:
relative to some
The geographical centre of Great Britain is in Lancashire somewhere so there can be no disputing the southernness of "the Midlands"actual the centre is about 20 mile south of Carlisle in Cumbria
actual the centre is about 20 mile south of Carlisle in Cumbria
Sorry, i went with wikipedia (centre of uk), although it did mention Haltwhistle as another possibilty
Sorry, i went with wikipedia (centre of uk), although it did mention Haltwhistle as another possibiltyoh i could be wrong but going by memory i recall its only just across the border
supergran
19-09-2012, 20:54
actual the centre is about 20 mile south of Carlisle in Cumbria Historically parts of the county now called Cumbria were in Lancashire.
Historically parts of the county now called Cumbria were in Lancashire.:lol: dont think it was that long ago i seen it
Reading it again it all depends on how you work it out. Lancashire theories are all to do with a point on which a 2d map would balance on a pencil (ie same land area to the North as the South), Haltwhistle in Cumbria is based on the midpoint of a line between the extremities. Either way the Midlands are a good hundred miles further south.
just read it, seems a bit overly complicated
On the other hand if you go for the centre by population it's almost certainly in the Midlands;)
On the other hand if you go for the centre by population it's almost certainly in the Midlands;)ah but we are talking about travel, and that is measured in miles not people ;)
ah but we are talking about travel, and that is measured in miles not people ;)
But what if you measure the total mileage of all the people attending?:red devil:
In that case St. Helens is the centre, as supergran has the most miles on the clock! :big grin:
But what if you measure the total mileage of all the people attending?:red devil:why not go the whole hog and work out what percentage of disposable income folk use for travel expenses , with all that dosh down south they can afford a wee trip north
In that case St. Helens is the centre, as supergran has the most miles on the clock! :big grin::rolling:
I have no disposable income now, I am taking out a new mortgage! Have you any idea what house prices are like down here? If you'd told me when I was young that I would one day pay a quarter of a million pounds for a house, I would have laughed in your face!
I have no disposable income now, I am taking out a new mortgage!only because you have extreme shopping habits, who nips off down the shops and comes back with a house :lol:
I don't care where it is, it's DC, I'll be there. Barring life or death of course :lol:
Leon Smith says we will need Andy against Russia.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/tennis/smith-admits-gb-will-need-murray-to-have-chance-of-overcoming-russians.18929740
Would be great to see Andy there. I've just looked up the ATP calendar for next year and it looks as though he would have time to play before having to start practising on clay. Fingers crossed!
Andy is hoping to play. :yahoo:
I posted this in the newspaper thread too.
Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/andy-murray-aims-to-return-to-davis-cup-against-russia-after-18month-absence-8201279.html)- Andy Murray aims to return to Davis Cup against Russia after 18-month absence
patmoren
08-10-2012, 19:43
Now all we need is a venue!
banskogirl
08-10-2012, 21:11
actual the centre is about 20 mile south of Carlisle in Cumbria
Oh now you're talking! I could go to that!
Probably no great surprise if it's Glasgow again, then!
The LTA Davis Cup page is really up to date - not!
"The AEGON GB Davis Cup Team's next Davis Cup by BNP Paribas Euro/Africa Zone Group I tie will take place in February 2013 with the draw to find out their opposition taking place in September 2012."
Andy has been talking to Leon expressing his desire to play against Russia, he will make a definte decision nearer the time, it looks like Andy is on board. Greattttttttt, I think I might be away and might not be able to attend. Pity.
Andy has been talking to Leon expressing his desire to play against Russia, he will make a definte decision nearer the time, it looks like Andy is on board. Greattttttttt, I think I might be away and might not be able to attend. Pity.
What do you mean by "away" Rouges? We already know it's at home, just not where precisely yet. Check out the chat here (http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1423-Davis-Cup-5-7-April-2013-VENUE-TO-BE-ADVISED-Group-Booking)
Sallydaisy
09-10-2012, 18:44
Perhaps Rouges means that SHE is away ... so can't be at home to go to wherever in the UK it is being held?
:shamed::shamed::shamed: Must learn to read!
supergran
10-10-2012, 12:47
:shamed::shamed::shamed: Must learn to read! I'm available young lady!!:lol::lol:
supergran
10-10-2012, 12:50
In that case St. Helens is the centre, as supergran has the most miles on the clock! :big grin:At first I thought this was a compliment, perhaps about the miles I've travelled watching Andy, then noticed who's said it and realised that it wasn't.:big grin::halo:
What do you mean by "away" Rouges? We already know it's at home, just not where precisely yet. Check out the chat here (http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1423-Davis-Cup-5-7-April-2013-VENUE-TO-BE-ADVISED-Group-Booking)
I'm sorry Pabbers, I did not make myself clear, I'll be away World Cruising. I shall miss it and you all so much as we had so much fun last time. R
supergran
10-10-2012, 14:53
I'm sorry Pabbers, I did not make myself clear, I'll be away World Cruising. I shall miss it and you all so much as we had so much fun last time. RI thought you made yourself very clear.;) And I think World Cruising is a fair excuse not to go. Wow...hope you have a wonderful time.
I'm available young lady!!:lol::lol:
Thank you..........for the "young" :lol:
Sallydaisy
31-01-2013, 14:42
The tie will be held at the Coventry Ricoh Arena - further details about players/times etc will be posted here on the event thread.
Note - it won't be in the 'Arena' itself because that is a footie pitch and home to Coventry City FC. More likely is that they'll utilise the[/URL][URL="http://www.ricoharena.com/business/business-facilities/1000-delegates-plus/jaguar-exhibition-hall-1/"]JAGUAR EXHIBITION HALL - 1 (http://www.ricoharena.com/business/business-facilities/1000-delegates-plus/jaguar-exhibition-hall/) which is used for concerts and other events and seats up to 5000 in theatre style. There is a bigger hall that seats 7000.
Block booking information is on this thread.
http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1423-Davis-Cup-5-7-April-2013-Ricoh-Arena-COVENTRY-Group-Booking
Just read back over this thread ..... shame the talk of Andy hoping to play didn't come to fruition :sad:
I know I'm in a minority here but I think the top players should place more importance on the DC and play whenever they can. Admittedly, Andy may still have blisters and sore hamstring so that may be the reason.
I think our DC team have worked really hard to get back into Group 1 (without Andy) and now have the chance to get into a world group play off. But, they have virtually no chance without Andy and would then face a relegation play off back to group 2. Such a shame. We could have an excellent DC team with Andy in singles and Ross and Colin in doubles (and yes I know Ross is out of action this year but for the future).
There is a team (I think it was Croatia) who won the whole thing with just 2 players. If Andy played just singles it would be 2 x 5 set matches in 3 days ... the same as at a GS.
OK, I'll get off my soap box now .....
There are loads of reasons why players refuse to play Davis Cup. I see that Dolgopolov is playing this weekend, but he refused to play last time because the Ukraine federation wouldn't pay him enough. I guess they must have come to an agreement. It is a pity that it's not more highly regarded among the top players.
Sallydaisy
01-02-2013, 09:42
This extract from The Times (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/tennis/article3674421.ece) sheds some light on the matter:
More than two months before the tie is played, Andy Murray has announced that he will not take part in Great Britain’s next Davis Cup venture. At the insistence of Ivan Lendl, his coach, the finest British player of several generations will be working his socks off in preparation for the French Open and representing his country plays no part in that.
Even the offer to lay a clay court inside Coventry’s Ricoh Arena, which will make its debut as a Davis Cup venue in April, was not enough to persuade Lendl of the virtue of his charge playing two best-of-five set matches a full week before the first clay Masters event in Monte Carlo.
I can understand the frustrations of everyone who attends DC and I know how great it would be to get back in the World Group, but while we only have one singles player in the top 200 it almost makes a mockery of the "team" bit.
As far as I am concerned, Andy is quite right to put his own clay court preparations first.
They offered to put in a clay court at Coventry? Surely if the tie were played on clay that would be a disadvantage to our team. It shows how keen they were to get Andy there.
I can understand the frustrations of everyone who attends DC and I know how great it would be to get back in the World Group, but while we only have one singles player in the top 200 it almost makes a mockery of the "team" bit.
As far as I am concerned, Andy is quite right to put his own clay court preparations first.
Not sure I agree with that - one good singles player and a strong doubles team could swing it. I thought he might play for Ross but I'm not going to criticise his decision - he has one life and each year of it, given the short length of a sports career, is crucial in terms of achieving goals like slams and #1. If/when he achieves those goals to his own satisfaction, only then will I berate him for missing the DC.
Although it is slightly disappointing that Andy isn't playing this time, I completely get why he wants to concentrate on his own goals. Even with him, getting a win against Russia is still a big ask. Colin and Johnny in doubles should be good, and hopefully by April they will be gelling nicely, but its a new partnership so not sure we could count on them getting the win, especially against the Russians. I think for as long as we don't have any other singles players much higher up the rankings to support Andy, Davis Cup is always going to be a struggle.
I kind of understand why Andy doesn't often play (the pressures of the tour etc) but that doesn't mean I like it! As an avid DC supporter, of course I would love the opportunity to see him playlive, but that's not the reason. I am lucky enough to have seen him play quite a few times. I just feel it should be more of a priority. I remember Andy saying he wanted the other players to step up to the plate and he wanted them to be able to win without him. I really think they have done that by getting back into Group 1 but all that will be to no avail come April :sad:
The Times article maybe suggests Andy's decision was influenced by Lendl. I can't remember whether he played DC but he was certainly of the era when it was high on the priority list. There are still many players who list winning the DC as one of their top career achievments ... and so they should in my opinion.
As pabbers said, it is entirely possible for a team of one strong singles player and a strong doubles team to do really well, as I also said in an earlier post ..... I rest my case your honour ;)
I suppose that Lendl is keen for Andy to do well at RG because he did well there himself. But Andy has admitted that the one slam he's not likely to win is RG. Djoko is also making RG his priority this year. I guess they think that whilst Rafa will probably not be back to his best, this year is a good opportunity - and for Djoko that's probably true. But I've just checked Andy's H2H on clay against the rest of the top 10, and apart from two wins due to retirement, he's only once beaten any of them on the surface (Gasquet). Which means he really doesn't look like a contender for the title. So I'm not sure that RG should be a priority (besides which, after DC there are several weeks and tournaments before RG). Of course, if he proves me wrong I'll be very happy to eat my hat.
^^I thought Andy [and Lendl] were keen to make some progress in the clay court season generally - irrespective of prioritising RG; Djokovic's aims; Nadal coming back etc.
It makes sense to me.
Sallydaisy
01-02-2013, 13:49
The Times article maybe suggests Andy's decision was influenced by Lendl. I can't remember whether he played DC but he was certainly of the era when it was high on the priority list. There are still many players who list winning the DC as one of their top career achievments ... and so they should in my opinion.
This is the background to Lendl's problem with Davis Cup - but it goes back 30 years.
In July 1983 Lendl played three exhibition matches (against Johan Kriek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johan_Kriek), Kevin Curren (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Curren), and Jimmy Connors (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Connors)) in Sun City (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_City,_North_West), South Africa, in the apartheid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_South_Africa_in_the_apartheid_era)-era bantustan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bantustan) of Bophuthatswana (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bophuthatswana).[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Lendl#cite_note-9) The Czechoslovak Sport Federation (ČSTV), controlled by the Communist Party, expelled him from the Czechoslovak Davis Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_cup) team and fined him $150,000.[10] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Lendl#cite_note-10) Lendl disagreed with the punishment and fine.
In addition, the publication of his name and results in the Czechoslovak media were prohibited. The ban was extended not only to Lendl, but to anything about world tennis, all tennis tournaments, and both men's and women's circuits (with the exception of blank Grand Slam results).[citation needed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)]
The appearance in this exhibition in Sun City and Lendl's Americanized living style ignited a long-lasting dispute between Lendl and the Czechoslovak communist authorities, which was never settled and resulted in his decision to apply for a green card (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Permanent_Resident_Card) in 1987 and later on for U.S. citizenship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._citizenship).
Lendl played DC (http://www.daviscup.com/en/players/player/profile.aspx?playerid=10000792#) twice in 1984 and twice in 1985 so not sure when his 'expulsion' happened.
Prior to this he led Czechoslovakia to it's first Davis Cup title; 1980 beating Italy. And at the DC Finals (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:N9i7rHCD-d0J:www.daviscup.com/134959+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=firefox-a)last year in the Czech Republic he was presented with a DC Award of Excellence.
So if Andy's playing in September - what are our chances of seeing him? It's way too complicated for little old me to work out. Also do we know when it would be, as I'll be on hols for part of September.
Also do we know when it would be, as I'll be on hols for part of September.
I can't work it out either but I do know when it will be played - 13th -15th Sept and that's the middle weekend of my 2 weeks off work .... which means we will almost certainly be away and I will miss it :crying::crying::crying:
I can't work it out either but I do know when it will be played - 13th -15th Sept and that's the middle weekend of my 2 weeks off work .... which means we will almost certainly be away and I will miss it :crying::crying::crying:
Oh fiddlesticks.........I'm away 8-22 September!!! But it may be abroad I suppose in which case I wouldn't be able to go anyway.
I can't work it out either but I do know when it will be played - 13th -15th Sept and that's the middle weekend of my 2 weeks off work .... which means we will almost certainly be away and I will miss it :crying::crying::crying:
It will also be shortly after the US Open.
If I've read the Davis Cup draw here (http://www.daviscup.com/en/results/group-i/europe-africa.aspx) right, if we lose to Russia then it's a relegation tie away to Slovenia; if we win it's a world group playoff against one of last week's World Group first round losers (how about Spain?!!).
Steven will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong. :thumbup:
Edit: Looking again, I think if we lose and Poland beat South Africa we don't play in September at all - South Africa play Slovenia and then we play the losers in October. Presumably if S.Africa beat Poland, then Poland don't have to play Slovenia again as they've already beaten them this year, so we play our relegation tie away to Slovenia in September.
Maybe when Andy says he'll play in September, he's banking on it being a World Group playoff, which could well be against Spain or Switzerland - chance for a rematch whatever happens in New York!
If I've read the Davis Cup draw here (http://www.daviscup.com/en/results/group-i/europe-africa.aspx) right, if we lose to Russia then it's a relegation tie away to Slovenia; if we win it's a world group playoff against one of last week's World Group first round losers (how about Spain?!!).
Steven will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong. :thumbup:
Edit: Looking again, I think if we lose and Poland beat South Africa we don't play in September at all - South Africa play Slovenia and then we play the losers in October. Presumably if S.Africa beat Poland, then Poland don't have to play Slovenia again as they've already beaten them this year, so we play our relegation tie away to Slovenia in September.
Maybe when Andy says he'll play in September, he's banking on it being a World Group playoff, which could well be against Spain or Switzerland - chance for a rematch whatever happens in New York!
:barmy:
If I've read the Davis Cup draw here (http://www.daviscup.com/en/results/group-i/europe-africa.aspx) right, if we lose to Russia then it's a relegation tie away to Slovenia; if we win it's a world group playoff against one of last week's World Group first round losers (how about Spain?!!).
Steven will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong. :thumbup:
Edit: Looking again, I think if we lose and Poland beat South Africa we don't play in September at all - South Africa play Slovenia and then we play the losers in October. Presumably if S.Africa beat Poland, then Poland don't have to play Slovenia again as they've already beaten them this year, so we play our relegation tie away to Slovenia in September.
Maybe when Andy says he'll play in September, he's banking on it being a World Group playoff, which could well be against Spain or Switzerland - chance for a rematch whatever happens in New York!
The edit is correct - in a group like this, a team can't get relegated once it has won a tie, so:
- if we beat Russia, we'll have a World Group Playoff tie in September
- if we lose and Poland beat South Africa, we'll face a relegation tie away to the losers of Slovenia v South Africa from 18-20 October
- if we lose and South Africa beat Poland, we'll have a relegation tie away to Slovenia from 13-15 September
(which I think is what Jaysee said in the edit :-) )
Either way, if we lose to Russia, our autumn tie will be at least a 90 minute flight away.
hfwardhouse
07-02-2013, 08:54
South Africa in October would be nice .... that's the school holidays up here ;)
I'll be retired by then so might be able to go........on t'other hand Mr P will probably want to go to Portugal for some sun :grrr:
Maybe when Andy says he'll play in September, he's banking on it being a World Group playoff, which could well be against Spain or Switzerland - chance for a rematch whatever happens in New York!
Without Andy I don't think anyone will be banking on a world group play off! Russia are a tough, tough team. I am inclined to bank on a relegation play off, but am not generally a pessimistic person and stranger things have happened in DC! We have beaten teams in the not too distant past that we were expected to lose to .....
Thanks Jaysee and Steven for clarifying. I pondered over the draw and gave up!! I'm sure it has got more complicated ... or is it me?! Don't answer that :laugh:
Slovenia's supposed to be very lovely - and it's not all that far away . . .
Sallydaisy
07-02-2013, 22:31
Slovenia's supposed to be very lovely - and it's not all that far away . . .
Slovenia is very nice indeed. I've been a couple of times ski-ing, although it was in the early 90's whilst it was still part of Yugoslavia. There's quite a lot of Italian influence (not surprising since they border one another) and they were all geared up for breaking away from the rest of Yugoslavia long before other regions.
Doesn't Slovenia border Austria as well? (excuse my geography!) I'm sure when I went to DC in Austria we were right on the boder, one side of the lake was Austria, the other side Slovenia.
Slovenia looks lovely for a walking holiday so I might try to persuade hubby .... but it would depend if the tie was anywhere near where the good walking is .....
But, hey, let's not write the boys off just yet!!
david1610
08-02-2013, 13:33
I stand to be corrected, but I think Slovenia had the highest per capita income of the ten countries that made the European Union go from 15 to 25 members when it joined.
Oh my head hurts with all these combinations. Thank goodness someone understands how it all works! Slovenia looks lovely, a long weekend there in September might be very tempting. South Africa in October is highly recommended, and although its a long flight there's no jet lag since they're in the same time zone as GB. It would be lovely to think we might have a world group play off tie though :)
Sallydaisy
10-02-2013, 13:28
Just keeping track of the Russian players over the next few weeks ...
Rank, Name & Nationality
This week
Next week
32 Youzhny, Mikhail (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Mikhail-Youzhny.aspx) (RUS)
L SF Zagreb
Rotterdam
37 Davydenko, Nikolay (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Nikolay-Davydenko.aspx) (RUS)
L R2 Montpelier
Rotterdam
68 Donskoy, Evgeny (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Do/E/Evgeny-Donskoy.aspx) (RUS)
San Jose
76 Kuznetsov, Andrey (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Ku/A/Andrey-Kuznetsov.aspx) (RUS)
L R1 Vina
117 Tursunov, Dmitry (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Dmitry-Tursunov.aspx) (RUS)
L QR2 Rotterdam
120 Andreev, Igor (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Igor-Andreev.aspx) (RUS)
out injured
129 Bogomolov Jr., Alex (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Alex-Bogomolov-Jr.aspx) (RUS)
In QR2 San Jose
163 Kunitsyn, Igor (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Igor-Kunitsyn.aspx) (RUS)
L R1 Brisbane
195 Gabashvili, Teymuraz (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Ga/T/Teymuraz-Gabashvili.aspx) (RUS)
In QR2 Sao Paulo
272 Kravchuk, Konstantin (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Kr/K/Konstantin-Kravchuk.aspx) (RUS)
?
?
289 Kumantsov, Andrey (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Ku/A/Andrey-Kumantsov.aspx) (RUS)
?
?
327 Lobkov, Alexander (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Lo/A/Alexander-Lobkov.aspx) (RUS)
L SF West Lakes CH
?
:eek:
:eek: indeed Linda! That's what I mean about them having a strong team
Now if Andy were playing ..... :whistle:
Stranger things have happened and the Russkis may turn up uber confident.....well I can dream :p
:cheer:With Jamie playing so well, - Marray & Delgy injured, & Skupski on Paternity leave, we might see Jamie playing in Coventry ... Could we??
Sallydaisy
20-02-2013, 18:21
:cheer:With Jamie playing so well, - Marray & Delgy injured, & Skupski on Paternity leave, we might see Jamie playing in Coventry ... Could we??
It might depend on Colin Fleming #26 and Dom Inglot #40 and how they perform during the end of Feb and into March with whoever they partner. Jamie is some way behind at #86 and has been less successful this last 12 months than either of them. We really need a strong doubles pair because it might be our best chance of getting a point against Russia.
TBH if Skupski were to make himself available (Coventry isn't too far from his Liverpool home for a weekend off Daddying duties!) the Flemski experience might put them ahead in Leon's mind.
EDIT: Leon's task is made quite difficult really for this tie. If none of Colin, Dom or Jamie team up together to play at Dubai/Delray, Indian Wells and Miami then there won't be a natural 'pair' with recent playing experience who gel well together. Fleming/Skupski have the best experience as a team but they've not played together for 2 years.
BTW Joyce, still not cleared my PM box and I'm working until later tonight.
I agree Sally, Flemski would be the best bet I think, despite the fact they have not played together recently. But having said that, practice as a pair is important too so who knows?!
Very important question! - Does anyone know where we might have our evening meals while in Coventry?
( Have T Clubcard vouchers to use!)
Sallydaisy
21-02-2013, 19:11
Very important question! - Does anyone know where we might have our evening meals while in Coventry?
( Have T Clubcard vouchers to use!)
Nowhere that you'll be able to use them I'm afraid ... or at least not within walking distance of the hotel and deffo nothing near the Ricoh. I'd been hoping to use some of mine but no such luck.
I did a recce a couple of weeks back and I've got nearly to the end of a very long email to send out to everyone over the next few days with a list of what IS available. (it's not a huge selection but there's a few ideas ...).
Don't worry - there's some places we can have a good get-together!!!
:yak:
:cheers::wino::beer:
:shelebrate:
Sky Sports (http://www1.skysports.com/tennis/news/12110/8598943/James-Ward-and-Jamie-Baker-to-face-Russia-in-Davis-Cup-tie) - James Ward and Jamie Baker to face Russia in Davis Cup tie
LTA (http://www.lta.org.uk/fans-major-events/Davis-Cup/News/2013/Great-Britain-team-announced-to-play-Russia/)- Great Britain team announced to play Russia
The team will comprise of:
Jamie Baker
Colin Fleming
Jonny Marray
James Ward
JAMES4578
26-03-2013, 13:33
Team as well expected really, Jonny was going to favoured over Jamie Murray. Whilst it's a tough tie good that's it's not a full strength Russian team, hopefully the home support willcount for quite a lot!
No surprises in the GB team, but interesting from the Sky report that neither Youhzny or Davydenko are playing. Let's hope the Russians are over-confident in relying on Tursunov and Donskoy! :GBflag:
Sallydaisy
26-03-2013, 18:03
With a little more detail here's the GB team:
James Ward WR 208
Jamie Baker WR 209
Jonny Marray DWR 16
Colin Fleming DWR 28
... and the Russians!
Russian team nominations:
Dmitry Tursunov WR 71 (doubles 278)
Evgeny Donskoy WR 78 (doubles 244)
Igor Kunitsyn WR 159 (doubles 439)
Victor Baluda WR 425 (doubles 441)
And a boost for a couple of young British players who've been doing particularly well so far this year!
Ed Corrie @edcorrie7 (https://twitter.com/edcorrie7)6m (https://twitter.com/edcorrie7/status/316581383734714368)
Have been selected to be a 5th man alongside @kyle8edmund (https://twitter.com/kyle8edmund) for next weeks
Davis Cup tie against Russia! Thanks to Leon & the LTA #GB (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23GB&src=hash) #Pumped (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Pumped&src=hash)
will there be radio or tv coverage? or is there just that go-slow LS?
patmoren
03-04-2013, 15:22
will there be radio or tv coverage? or is there just that go-slow LS?
They sometimes have live streaming on the Davis Cup Site, Eurosport are showing DC but don't know which matches. Also worth having a look at Livescorehunter who live stream a lot of tournaments. LTA also worth a look.
KnightOwl
03-04-2013, 15:38
Sometimes it's on BBC red button as well, although that's usually when it's a crucial tie - I'm not ware they're doing that for this one...
Does anyone know if there will be a live stream. Eurosport appear to be covering a world group rubber.
JAMES4578
03-04-2013, 20:05
will there be radio or tv coverage? or is there just that go-slow LS?
The LTA will be streaming the whole tie live (http://www.lta.org.uk/fans-major-events/Davis-Cup/News/2013/Great-Britain-team-announced-to-play-Russia/) However, upon checking the TV Guide there's doesn't appear to be any TV Coverage. Eurosport are covering the Serbia/USA tie.
Sallydaisy
04-04-2013, 08:01
We may have a different team line-up to that expected ...
Neil Harman @NeilHarmanTimes (https://twitter.com/NeilHarmanTimes) 9m (https://twitter.com/NeilHarmanTimes/status/319716811400675329)
A major surprise in offing for GB tie @DavisCup (https://twitter.com/DavisCup) against Russia.
@Evo151216 (https://twitter.com/Evo151216) likely to play singles http://thetim.es/17dRGAg (http://t.co/X6skyG8CFc)
An extract from his Times piece - where he lists the likely GB Team as James Ward, Dan Evans, Colin Fleming and Jonny Marray.
He has represented his country in frozen Vilnius, Lithuania, and in Liverpool and Glasgow when the weather outside was none too hospitable. The Davis Cup is being staged in glacial Coventry, a few miles from Dan Evans’s West Midlands home, this weekend and he may well be about to get a call to arms he could not have thought possible.
When it comes to a natural touch and feel for the tennis ball, there is only one better player in the country and Andy Murray is dodging the Davis Cup for a fourth tie in succession. It is a considerable gamble by Leon Smith, the Great Britain captain, to name Evans for the Euro-Africa Zone Group 1 tie against Russia, which starts tomorrow at the Ricoh Arena, and yet it is believed he will pick the 22-year-old from Birmingham.
Smith will have had to put either James Ward or Jamie Bakers nose out of joint, as they are stationed at No 214 and No 235 in the ATP world rankings and Evans is down at No 325. And if Great Britain lose a tie for which they are long odds against, it will be a significant test for a captain who has become increasingly adept at diplomacy.
...................
In February last year, Evans was being bounced shoulder-high through the Braehead Arena, Glasgow, having defeated two Slovakians, Lukas Lacko and Martin Klizan, the first of whom is now ranked No 81 and the second, if he maintains his present levels, will be seeded for the next two grand-slam tournaments.
Evans is a demonstrably better player than his ranking, so there has to be something amiss with his temperament, his character, his application, for if these were all 100 per cent he would be inside the top 100.
JAMES4578
04-04-2013, 08:14
Whilst it would be a blow for Jamie Baker Dan Evans has shown in the past he can rise to the big occasion and of course he is fairly local so could well be a good pick,even if not without risks. Not keen on the term Andy "dodging the Davis Cup" though!
Murray rocks
04-04-2013, 09:51
The LTA will be streaming the whole tie live (http://www.lta.org.uk/fans-major-events/Davis-Cup/News/2013/Great-Britain-team-announced-to-play-Russia/) However, upon checking the TV Guide there's doesn't appear to be any TV Coverage. Eurosport are covering the Serbia/USA tie.
I think its a disgrace that its not on UK TV. Im going so no issue for me personally. But for people who are not it should be on either British Eurosport or BBC.
Sallydaisy
04-04-2013, 09:56
And it's official ... Jamie Baker replaced by Dan Evans.
Davis Cup @DavisCup (https://twitter.com/DavisCup) 2m (https://twitter.com/DavisCup/status/319749565521731584) Change of nomination by Great Britain for their Europe/Africa Zone Group I
2nd Round tie v Russia: Dan Evans replaces Jamie Baker
themass15
04-04-2013, 10:13
BBC hasn't shown it for some time. Not sure why Eurosport isn't, perhaps without Andy playing viewing figures do not make it worthwhile and it will be an uphill struggle without him.
One advantage of no TV coverage - Bouncy is unlikely to turn up! :thumbup:
British Tennis @BritishTennis
Tie will be streamed live- http://www.lta.org.uk with commentary from @GuyMcCreaTennis & former GB #DavisCup player Jeremy Bates #GBvRUS
hfwardhouse
04-04-2013, 17:45
One advantage of no TV coverage - Bouncy is unlikely to turn up! :thumbup:
Every cloud ;)
All that hissing practice has been wasted though!
Elizabeth
04-04-2013, 19:26
I hope you all have a good time in Coventry this weekend and results are favourable. I am off to London in the morning - hope to be at Davis Cup next time.
Here is the link for the LTA stream and also oop for the weekend.
http://www.lta.org.uk/daviscuplive
Friday 5 April (from 1400)
Dan Evans v Dmitry Tursunov
James Ward v Evgeny Donskoy
Saturday 6 April(from 1300)
Jonny Marray/Colin Fleming v
Igor Kunitsyn/Victor Baluda
Sunday 7 April(from 1300)
James Ward v Dmitry Tursunov
Dan Evans v Evgeny Donskoy
can't wait for tomorrow when me and Master Yorkie are there. Hope everyone there today can cheer on a couple of GB victories.
On the LTA website
Don’t forget to join in the conversation
with @britishtennis on Twitter by using #GBvRUS
or get involved on Facebook.
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/22024495) - Davis Cup: Dan Evans replaces Jamie Baker for GB-Russia tie
alas evo broken, russia 4-2 ahead in first set, early days
evo broke back, so on serve at 4-5, but the stream has failed, so i know no more!
russia won first set, serving first in second, so evo must have dropped serve at 4-5
second set going smoothly, but feed drops off every 30 secs!
i watched the racing for a bit, but it's on serve, 3-3
KITKAT, evo breaks for 4-3
and good hold, from deuce, dimi now at 3-5
evo had the chance to serve for it, but couldn't
so now he's serving at 5-6
TIEBREAK!
and evo won the TB, 7-5, had a mb in first point, lost it, and then won on the 5-6 point on dimi's serve
one set all, all to play for.
russia won the third set, got the break, and managed to serve it out for 6-4
evo playing well, serves first n fourth set
Dan now a break down in the fourth.
evo broken early on but came straight back, serving at 2-2
stream keeps failing! grrr!
good hold, ftrom deuce,dimi at 2-3
evo survives a looong deuce game to hold for 5-4
and on we go, evo to serve at 5-5
(after a long deuce point which dimi finally won, tho evo had ad, ie set point, once)
dimi now to serve at 5-6
KITKAT! and fourth set GB
and evo will serve first in final set
your doing better than me if you get anything from the live stream so please keep up your posts they are appreciated
6-5
30-30 Cummon Dan
SET!!!
2-2
sounds great getting it to a decider but it won't help unless he can finish it off. Come on Dan finish it off now.
Keep having to reload the stream but it's mostly working...
Heading out shortly, so won't see the end, come on Evo!
hey Yorkie are you following on Livescore?
Dan seems to have lost his concentration and has just been broken 0-1
alas evo broken in first game, dimi is really upping his game and blanketing the net
dimi held serve, deuce game, chance, once, for evo
serving now at 0-2
evo holds, so dimi now at 2-1, evo keeps getting chances on dim's serve
KITKAT! evo breaks, terrifc agiile net point for 0-40
alas,evo broken to 30, dimi to serve at 3-2
hey Yorkie are you following on Livescore?
The only place I am following is here and the twitter section of the LTA site as the live stream does not work on my work pc and I don't know where a live score is. About to head home hopefully the live stream will work at home.
The only place I am following is here and the twitter section of the LTA site as the live stream does not work on my work pc and I don't know where a live score is. About to head home hopefully the live stream will work at home.
OK, I'll try and keep you updated then. I've been there too (ie desperately trying to follow a tennis match from work)
Hmm, my stream went off.
Back now
1-2
Russia serving.
0-15
0-30
0-40 Very good play byDan, finished with a streched volley
15-40 ace
Game Dan
Bad mishit from Tursunov.
Dan loses concentration again.
15-40
30-40
game Russia. Dan nets a poor shot into the net.
15-15
15-30 Good aggresive play by Dan
30-30
40-30 agressive play by Russia.
game
4-2 Russia
dimi holds easily, so evo at 2-4. both men look weary i think, not used to playing 5 sets
0-15
15-15 horrible shank by Tursunov
30-15 Dan going for it again.
30-30 missed dro shot
30-40
40-40
ad Rus error by Dan
40-40
Game GB!!
3-4
Nice crucial hold there by Dan, few scary moments in that game with the two break points!! GO DAN!
very quick game by Russia 5-3
0-15
15-15
30-15 cummon Dan.
30-30 Another missed drop shot by Dan
Good hold 4-5 GB
:sofa: bad Russia, let dan break back!
Russia serving.
15-0
30-0
net
40-0
3 match points :-(
ace
GSM
:sad: Oh well, hopefully Ward will do us proud, and we have a good shot in the doubles tomorrow too!
oh so close - well fought Dan.
Come on James!
live stream working for me fine at home. Much better
exchange of breaks ward at 5-4 serving for first set
first set in the bag, 6-4. ward serving second in set 2
Wardy has won the first set :clap:
live stream working for me fine at home. Much better
I am having lot of problems with the stream. It keeps on stopping.
KITKAT in first game, ward to serve at 1-0
easy hold to love,
ward now at 2-1, he's playing wel, brng on the anti-jinx potion!l
no problem,holds to 15, donnyboy at 1-3
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 18:43
First set Wardy 6'4!!!
:thumbup:
I've had to leave because I'm working tomorrow and Dan Evans was 1-1. He was giving it everything out there this afternoon and it's quite something to have taken Dima to 5 sets considering the difference in their ranking.
Not on here for long - things to do! I'm back in Coventry tomorrow night so I only miss the doubles and will watch both singles on Sunday!
ward to serve for seccnd set, 5-4
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 18:56
Wardy now 6'4, 6'4 in his rubber. 1 set to go for 1-1 on Day 1.
second set in the bag, from deuce, eventually
ward got a breeak in first game, consolidated it, inc a neat dropper.
donny now at 0-2
donny got the break, serving at 2-2
back to 2-2 come on Wardy there must be a few from here dying to get a drink - don't hold them up too long
long long game at 3-3, ward could not get the break, so he's serving at 3-4
tricky game now, ward at 5-6
alas,ward could not hold serve
3rd set to russia, gb lead by 2 sets to i
donny wIll serve first this set
he is looking a lot more energetic now, natch!
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 19:52
From British Tennis on twitter:
BritishTennis (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=BritishTennis) Donskoy hits a FH winner cross court for the 6-5 lead. Again Wardy must serve to stay in the set. If he holds, we go into a tie-break 9 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/BritishTennis/status/320260062587265024) · reply (https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=320260062587265024) · retweet (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=320260062587265024) · favorite (https://twitter.com/intent/favorite?tweet_id=320260062587265024)
BritishTennis (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=BritishTennis) Again some fantastic focus from the Brit who serves to 15. 5 (http://twitter.com/5)-5 in the third 12 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/BritishTennis/status/320259175403892737) · reply (https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?in_reply_to=320259175403892737) · retweet (https://twitter.com/intent/retweet?tweet_id=320259175403892737) · favorite (https://twitter.com/intent/favorite?tweet_id=320259175403892737)
BritishTennis (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=BritishTennis) Wardy hits a BH out and Russia keep the lead at 5-4. Ward must hold his serve for the set now #GBvRUS (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23GBvRUS)
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 19:53
Donskoy takes the 3rd set 7'5, GBR still ahead 2-1.
James Ward must really dig deep now and nail the 4th set pronto.
hfwardhouse
05-04-2013, 20:02
C'mon Wardy!
has anyone else completly lost the live stream?
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 20:04
has anyone else completly lost the live stream?
I'm not watching as working but I wonder if they thought it'd be all over by 9pm???
3-1 Russia in the fourth now ... :sad:
donny has got the break,serving at 3-1
has anyone else completly lost the live stream?
no - it's still fine for me
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 20:22
Russia 5-2 in the 4th set.
Russia 5-2 in the 4th set.
:nailbiter:
hfwardhouse
05-04-2013, 20:27
Darnit ..... COME ON TEAM GB!!!
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 20:35
Donskoy takes it 6'3. 2 sets all ... all to play for now. Come on Wardy!!!
:GBflag:
david1610
05-04-2013, 20:40
2-1 on serve in the fifth! C'mon GB!
ooh the flag - good idea!
:GBflag::GBflag::GBflag:
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 20:57
:GBsmile:
david1610
05-04-2013, 20:58
Massive massive hold for 4-3 after lots of deuces and a great lob! C'mon GB! Break and hold and it is done!
Sallydaisy
05-04-2013, 21:02
4-4, Donskoy took about 40secs for that love hold on his serve.
Pressure all back on Wardy now!
and live stream breaks on me at 30-30 please keep me up to date
david1610
05-04-2013, 21:04
5-4 Donskoy has been holding much more easily but a double and a good shot from James and you never know. C'mon GB!
back again hopefully can keep going now
david1610
05-04-2013, 21:10
5-5 Few aces please!
can't ask more than a game to love at this stage
hfwardhouse
05-04-2013, 21:14
Oooh just saw the group - Davech, Knightowl, Caro, James4578, Jaysee
not looking good at 0-30 come on James
the sofa might not be enough here.
Oh no break him back Wardy!
I was very worried when the commies said they couldn't see where a break of serve was coming from - it's their fault!
Commies need a :cauldron: with them
aah live stream just broke again at deuce
My stream just failed too ... :grrr:
Live stream broke at match point for me.
Come back now
anyone seen anything beyond the deuce?
Wardy saved the mp with an amazing shot, looked like Russia were going to take it too.
Wardy saved the mp with an amazing shot, looked like Russia were going to take it too.
Saw that but stream has gone again.
stream comes and goes now
the lta whole site is just not coming up for me now
According to twitter Russia have won :sad:
https://twitter.com/BritishTennis
hfwardhouse
05-04-2013, 21:30
:crying: :crying: :crying:
Feel for Wardy and Evo - they both gave it their all .... :sad:
I have the stream back now..........
david1610
05-04-2013, 21:33
Some good tennis at the end but opponent just too strong in the end.
Its going to be mighty difficult to come back from 2 rubbers down
goodnight - not sure if I'll be around for the doubles tomorrow. Tall order to win the tie now, but you never know.....
Its going to be mighty difficult to come back from 2 rubbers down
Still possible though.
Two very close sets and both went the way of Russia :sad: So close yet so far!!!
Still possible though.
Two very close sets and both went the way of Russia :sad: So close yet so far!!!
Agreed and I'll be cheering as loud as I can tomorrow hoping to help (in a very small way) to get us back to 2:1 and keep it alive for Sunday
Wardy has a history of bottling these, perhaps it would have been better to have given Jamie Baker a crack at it.
Who knows. I've never seen any live tennis so mainly based on highlights, but i've always thought Wardy and Evo were technically better than Jamie B, but as far as tenacity is concerned there can be few players anywhere who fight to the end the way he does.
Niknak's Mum
05-04-2013, 23:43
Only just home and 3 VERY tired young lads in bed at last after shouting, chanting and clapping for more or less 8 hours of tennis. .... I'm not sure how I am going to get them all up and out again in time for the doubles tomorrow:sleepy: Dan and James certainly gave it all they had .... such a shame. Large scotch for me now then bed :sleepy::sleepy::sleepy:
KnightOwl
05-04-2013, 23:59
Gruelling just watching those two matches, never mind playing in them!! Both guys did really, well, Dan in particular I felt - just so harsh that after 10 sets of hard-fought tennis, we're still 2-0 down :sad:
Gonna cheer even louder tomorrow!
Got a pretty good chance in the doubles, I think, and I'm sure Dan can beat Donskoy if he plays like he did today - but Ward v Tursunov will be a tricky one...!
Yawn, bed now!!
JAMES4578
05-04-2013, 23:59
Very tight matches,such a pity we didn't get a poiint! Gutting,particularly for James Ward who was so close but must he gave a bit away at crucial stages. Up against it but still very enjoyable day and we should win the doubles tomorrow!
KnightOwl
06-04-2013, 00:24
Wardy has a history of bottling these, perhaps it would have been better to have given Jamie Baker a crack at it.
I agree - in fact I can't believe I actually called this - when Wardy was 2-0 up and playing well in the third, I said to Pat she might have two more sets to watch - wish I'd kept my mouth shut!
He did play really well at times, but too many UEs at crucial points, and unfortunately, to be frank, I think 'bottling' is not too far off the mark - he did have chances to win this, and didn't/couldn't take them.
Dan was outstanding, given the raking difference between himself and Tursunov - he really gave himself every chance and such a shame he couldn't quite go the distance.
Wardy does tend to "choke" in final sets though I agree he's probably a better player than Evans but Dan usually gives his best in DC. Can't believe there's no TV coverage at all?? Not even red button or ITV4? Shameful.
patmoren
06-04-2013, 08:23
Just a quick visit as I can't get a wireless signal. Very tense day but they both played above their ranking level against higher ranked players. Ssome entertaining tennis at times but I think our expectations were probably too high. Doubles today so filngers crossed.
dubs underway, 27 mins for first set, 6-1 score. oh, and gb won that set
GB won second set too :yahoo:
second set in the bag 6-4. russia making a better fight of it
third set 6-2, so on to sunday
hfwardhouse
06-04-2013, 13:49
Brilliant from Flembo and Jonny. Flembo dedicated the win to Ross. Bless him.
Saw the group when they were doing the interview, Pabbers and Knightowl!!
Just home so missed all the action. Well done to Colin and Jonny! :cheer:
:clap: well done guys :clap:
JAMES4578
06-04-2013, 15:46
Obviously Colin/jonny were the clear favourites but it was a dominating and awesome performance. They just never let up,well done guys! still tough ask tomorrow,but inspired performance s from James and Dan can overcome the odds.
Well done Colin and Jonny. :bravo: :GBflag:
Shame this tie isn't being covered on television. :grrr:
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/22052425) - Davis Cup: Britain's Fleming & Marray cut deficit against Russia
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/22024495) - Davis Cup: Russia take 2-0 lead over Great Britain
KnightOwl
06-04-2013, 22:14
Brilliant from Flembo and Jonny. Flembo dedicated the win to Ross. Bless him.
Saw the group when they were doing the interview, Pabbers and Knightowl!!
Eeeek!
The boys were great, and they were getting brilliant support too. Jonny Marray hardly stopped grinning the whole match - he was clearly loving every minute!
You could definitely hear a catch in Colin's voice when he dedicated the match to Ross - lovely moment and the crowd cheered loudly when he did it too...!
We had a brilliant day, but tomorrow....:nailbiter:
woo hoo first set to James vs Dimi!!!! :cheer::cheer:
Trying to get a live stream. They have done it differently today but its even worse. It appears for a few seconds then goes. Worse than Friday.
Trying to get a live stream. They have done it differently today but its even worse. It appears for a few seconds then goes. Worse than Friday.
yes - I have to keep refreshing it
Stream from LTA stopping and starting where it left off - must be a long way behind by now. Anybody got a link - even for scoring. I used livescorehunter.com on Friday(in Russian) but dont seem to be able to get on there today - all so frustrating
hfwardhouse
07-04-2013, 13:21
Best place for scores is twitter Jane .... that's where I'm getting my updates from - just tried the stream and it fell over before it had even found a picture :grrr:
ward serving at 4-5, on serve
held after an ace and strong second serve at 40-30
hfwardhouse
07-04-2013, 13:32
oooooh Wardy has 2 breakpoints....
Edit but Dima manages to peg it back to deuce .... COME ON GB!!!
ward now at 5-6. tsnov hitting immense serves, 136, 140mph
so, it's tiebreak or lose a set
I am not on twitter, but perhaps somebody could please give me a link so that I can follow it on there. My stream from LTA is giving me 5all and 15all in the second set - a bit behind I think!!
1 set all.
Come on James, you're still in this.
rats, russia take set 7-5. and ward will serve second again, can get broken, lose set on just one point.
ward was serving well, several love games, and tsnov scarcely challenged him till that vital game ah well.
wow what a shot from James to break!!!
KITKAT!!!, so ward now serving at 1-0
alas, broken from deuce. so now back on serve
Jane, I have given up on the stream and have gone to the LTA home page as their twitter feed is being displayed on the right hand side. The tweets are also on the "live Davis Cup" page.
I did tweet the LTA to say the feed was not working properly and they said they are working on it. I have been having to refreshthe stream every 5 seconds or so and even then it does not always refresh.
hfwardhouse
07-04-2013, 13:57
I am not on twitter, but perhaps somebody could please give me a link so that I can follow it on there. My stream from LTA is giving me 5all and 15all in the second set - a bit behind I think!!
If you're not a registered user you won't be able to see it - but if you go to the lta home page (lta.org) you'll see their twitter feed on the right hand of the screen - they're tweeting score updates occasionally. We'll try and keep this updated (well someone will .... I'm off out to feed sheep :rolleyes: :grrr:)
ward makes it 2-2. 16 aces so far from him
Eurosport are commenting on the match on their site and are giving live scores :)
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/tennis/livematch/609186.html
comments for this set so far
- - WARD 6-4 5-7 2-2 - Ward’s not moving quite as well as he was and it appears Tursunov’s second set smash-and-grab has sapped the juice from his body. He holds despite facing deuce - his 16th ace and a long Tursunov return sealing it.
- - WARD 6-4 5-7 1-2 - The Coventry crowd is stunned, even the air horns sound lifeless. The game is Russia’s and is met by polite applause.
- - WARD 6-4 5-7 1-1 - Ward briefly looks as though he’s going to hand the break straight back to the Russian as he loses the opening two points with some weak hitting. He manages to recover, but a big Tursunov forehand means break point. Saved! A big ace brings us to deuce. However Ward nets the following point to give the Russian a second break point. Silence in the Ricoh Arena as Ward nets a very hittable high bouncing ball. As you were ten minutes ago.
- - WARD 6-4 5-7 1-0 - Tursunov looks more confident now and takes the first point with a well constructed play. However this new composed Russian disappears as Ward recovers to earn another break point. WOW – shot of the match. Ward plays a horribly short ball, which Tursunov sends out wide but somehow the Brit stretches to fire it down the line.
alas, ward broken, so now tsnov at 4-2.
if ward can hold at 2-5 he will make tsnov serve for the set,
and finally he will be able to serve first in set four.
ward MUST hold his serve here at 2-5
Thanks folks - actually I have gone onto Bet365 where it is showing the score at 5-2. 30-30 - plus there is a picture too!!
yippee! tsnov now serving for set
The stream has suddenly started working better.
well, ward breaks, so he will serve at 4-5. so he's back in the frying pan - sensible? used to think this was a ploy of djo at times, easier to break opponent than serve it out oneself
well, ward holds serve. tsnov now at 5-5. best outcome in my book is a tiebreak
treacle giving it his all! ward now in a vital game, 5-6.
0-30, 0-40, 15-40, 30-40,
game, set to russia.
AND ward will serve second again.
he has lost these two sets because he was serving second.
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