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DonaldGrump
05-01-2017, 00:44
Watched him before Andy today, he didnt really look anything special but seemed happy enough. It will be interesting if he and Andy meet this week.
I do however think the Australian open will give an insight into whether or not his trials of the back end of last season are a sign of a long term decline. My gut feeling on this one is that he is either going to go out early, by early last 16/8 or he will come back to form by winning the thing once again.
My brain tells me that a guy who won those 4 slams and cracked the clay in Paris so recently cannot suddenly fall from grace without major mental or physical reasons having a big part to play. The more I read about Gurus and the like the more I think he has lost his mind.
Perhaps the cracks were beginning to show before his French open victory, thinking back to last years Australian final, Andy was frankly poor that day, and Djoko wasnt outstanding. As for the French final looking back it was probably a missed opportunity for Andy, and Djoko,s win might have had a fair bit to do with Andy not quite scenting blood as he should have after the first set.
It will I suspect be a very interesting few weeks that might well tell us much about the coming season.
I watched him yesterday too and I felt he was just going through the motions. He looked to me as though he would rather be anywhere than on a tennis court. He played well enough but his heart didn't seem to be in it. Having said that, he will probably bounce back miraculously once he gets to his favourite court in Melbourne!
The advantage of the AO is he can use the 'egg'.
That's true, although I had read that the clinic he uses in Melbourne was under scrutiny because a man died in the 'egg'. Of course, it may well have been pure coincidence that the man was in the egg when he died but perhaps it will make Djoko think twice about using it again.
This thing is only used sparingly by the medical profession because of the side effects which are eye problems and kidney or liver damage
Just watching him do the reving the crowd up bit when he has beaten Stepanek, met with a very muted response.
Rosalind
05-01-2017, 16:13
I saw bits only. Don't think he was exceptional. Does he only do the love-in thing when he wins? ;)
DonaldGrump
05-01-2017, 16:15
Hard to come to many conclusions after that match, very scratchy Djokovic didnt look exactly full of enthusiasm. As others have mentioned at times in the first set he looked like he would have rather been elsewhere.
It's astonishing, really, that anyone would be so desperate to have an edge that they would risk their life in that thing.
lovetennis
05-01-2017, 22:58
I saw bits only. Don't think he was exceptional. Does he only do the love-in thing when he wins? ;)
Yes, so that's another bonus for us all when he loses ;)
WimbledonWestie
05-01-2017, 23:39
Had the 'pleasure' of experiencing it in person at the 02 in a November- yuk!
lovetennis
09-01-2017, 07:31
Djok fined $2500 for unsportmanlike conduct for hitting the ball into the crowd in Doha final. He won't miss the money!
That is no deterrent. He will keep on behaving badly until he is really hurt. He said in his interview that there is a risk when you sit in the front rows. How arrogant is that? No one expects to have a ball or racket deliberately aimed them
No question, he should have been defaulted and Djoko must know that - he gets away with it every time. Until they come down hard on the big guys for breaking the rules they will continue to do so. Fining them doesn't hurt them in the slightest - being defaulted in a final certainly would. It would send a message to the locker room too. I was actually surprised that Carlos had the guts to dock Djoko a point earlier in the match - a pity he didn't continue in the way he had started!
Josephine
09-01-2017, 16:42
The point was docked in the second set when Andy held for 6-5. So quite a long time after the ball in the crowd incident. The only thing in mitigation is that the ball hit the court first and then bounced into the crowd - not quite the same as hitting a ball straight into the crowd.
Thanks, Josephine - I thought the docked point was earlier. Maybe Carlos had had second thoughts about not penalising Djoko for the ball incident!
I think that the point was docked at that point in the second set because Nole had just smashed his racquet down so it was the second offence (the ball hitting a spectator being the first)
Josephine
09-01-2017, 18:56
Yes - Djokovic was given a warning for ball abuse (I suppose) when he hit the ball that went into the crowd. Then the second warning was racquet abuse when he bashed his racquet in second set, so 2 warnings is an automatic point penalty.
Rosalind
09-01-2017, 23:27
Difficult one isn't it. I would have loved to have seen him defaulted and Andy win. I wish he had have been. However, I guess if there is an audience and in Doha it seemed fairly packed out which was nice (not to mention the TV audience and the publicity the tournament/location is getting), then to default is a huge decision. Maybe lose more than one point - a game or two.
Yes, I agree, the top guys get away with too much.
Difficult one isn't it. I would have loved to have seen him defaulted and Andy win. I wish he had have been. However, I guess if there is an audience and in Doha it seemed fairly packed out which was nice (not to mention the TV audience and the publicity the tournament/location is getting), then to default is a huge decision. Maybe lose more than one point - a game or two.
Yes, I agree, the top guys get away with too much.
I agree. The top guys don't get treated the same, it's true and I think it's very much for the reasons you mention. When the rules first came in McEnroe got defaulted from the AO but I can't remember a big name since then. As for the Novak incident, I am not sure if the umpire saw where the ball went. ie. if it hit anyone. I guess we will never know.
He did, because he was heard to ask "Are you OK?"
themass15
10-01-2017, 12:17
Djokovic will always continue to play games when it suits.
He did, because he was heard to ask "Are you OK?"
Yes I heard that.
Wasn't Serena defaulted for "threatening" a lines woman???
Yes I heard that.
Wasn't Serena defaulted for "threatening" a lines woman???
I think she was given a point penalty, which happened to be at match point (though I could be wrong!).
Josephine
10-01-2017, 17:51
You are right.
this drive to sanities sport for the masses drives me nuts, you cant smash a racquet, swear , celebrate a goal without some professional offended getting on their high horse, I get that nole is everyone's favourite villain but seriously asking for him to be defaulted for a ball bouncing of the court into the crowd just smacks of sour grapes sportsmen (even female ones;) )should be allowed to show a bit of passion
There is passion and there is bad behaviour. The fine was a joke. This is not the first time he has done this e.g.. racket in Rome and Paris and a ball in London. Hopefully the young players will not follow his example or they will find themselves disqualified or bankrupt
this drive to sanities sport for the masses drives me nuts, you cant smash a racquet, swear , celebrate a goal without some professional offended getting on their high horse, I get that nole is everyone's favourite villain but seriously asking for him to be defaulted for a ball bouncing of the court into the crowd just smacks of sour grapes sportsmen (even female ones;) )should be allowed to show a bit of passion
I don't have a problem with smashing racquet's, swearing (I could hardly follow SAM if I did.....!!!). I do have a problem with fake MTO's that are called at a time calculated to put the opposition off, breaking the rules constantly over time between points (not the ones after a endless rally when the referee gives both of the players a bit extra to stop them keeling over on court), and nasty gamesmanship. By all means have passion - we all like a rogue. I like and have time for Kyrgios. Djokovic, and sometimes Nadal however push the boundaries too far for me, and is spoiling the sport as far as I am concerned. As somebody said above they might not be breaking the rules of the game, but they are breaking the spirit.
Remember Robredo I think it was, giving Murray the one fingered gesture at the net, and calling him a xxxxxxx after that awesome three setter, as they were hugging at the net, and the hug between Murray and Del Potro at Rio. Both of those were awesome. I am not convinced Murray likes Djokovic, and I don't blame him.
Josephine
11-01-2017, 10:26
You can just as easily add the lovely exchange, grins and laughter at the net and hug between Andy and Novak at the end of Doha Final.
You can just as easily add the lovely exchange, grins and laughter at the net and hug between Andy and Novak at the end of Doha Final.
That is true and, if Andy is to be believed and we have no reason to doubt his word, he and Djoko get on well off the court. It does seem to be something of a love hate relationship though.
this drive to sanities sport for the masses drives me nuts, you cant smash a racquet, swear , celebrate a goal without some professional offended getting on their high horse, I get that nole is everyone's favourite villain but seriously asking for him to be defaulted for a ball bouncing of the court into the crowd just smacks of sour grapes sportsmen (even female ones;) )should be allowed to show a bit of passion
On the whole I agree but............
if Novak was to injure himself when frustrated ie hit himself on the head with the edge of his racket.
Then that's passion. Causing someone else harm whether that be intentional or not the rules should
be clear and adhered to. For instance lets say that in the racket nearly hitting the lines person incident
last year, it had hit them, say, handle end in the eye and caused some real damage what would YOU have
thought would have been the correct course of action? What if it had been someone you cared about?
Bet he would have been your favourite villain then! I know no injury was sustained but when it was
mentioned in his post match interview he seemed not to care and didn't even consider himself lucky
not to have been more harshly treated. Same this time. Would you be OK with three strikes and your out?
So as I see it, smash a racket but don't risk injuring anyone else. Swear at yourself but don't direct it at
anyone else. (Greg R,) Celebrate how ever you like but don't incite the masses to be a brawling mob.
And on a personal note,
please don't let it drive you nuts or you might need the assistance of a Guru and an egg.:taz:;)
On the whole I agree but............
if Novak was to injure himself when frustrated ie hit himself on the head with the edge of his racket.
Then that's passion. Causing someone else harm whether that be intentional or not the rules should
be clear and adhered to. For instance lets say that in the racket nearly hitting the lines person incident
last year, it had hit them, say, handle end in the eye and caused some real damage what would YOU have
thought would have been the correct course of action? What if it had been someone you cared about?
Bet he would have been your favourite villain then! I know no injury was sustained but when it was
mentioned in his post match interview he seemed not to care and didn't even consider himself lucky
not to have been more harshly treated. Same this time. Would you be OK with three strikes and your out?
So as I see it, smash a racket but don't risk injuring anyone else. Swear at yourself but don't direct it at
anyone else. (Greg R,) Celebrate how ever you like but don't incite the masses to be a brawling mob.
And on a personal note,
please don't let it drive you nuts or you might need the assistance of a Guru and an egg.:taz:;)
:rolling: to late bees well ensconced in ma bunnet
but to your points there's a lotta ifs in there, yes if the racquet did the lines man ban him, but it didn't and no one was hurt by the ball into the crowd so warning fair enough
as for him being blasé with the media good on him for not being bullied by the media
:rolling: to late bees well ensconced in ma bunnet
but to your points there's a lotta ifs in there, yes if the racquet did the lines man ban him, but it didn't and no one was hurt by the ball into the crowd so warning fair enough
as for him being blasé with the media good on him for not being bullied by the media
AS for the if's well how many near misses do you allow before you see that if they carry on
it's only a matter of time before if's become a definite.
Out of interest do you agree with using the mobile while driving?
AS for the if's well how many near misses do you allow before you see that if they carry on
it's only a matter of time before if's become a definite.
Out of interest do you agree with using the mobile while driving?warning system in place at the moment seems just about right to me , warning , point, game then defaulted
BTW trying to equate the damage a tennis ball can do to that done by a car crash only demonstrates my point with the hysteria surrounding a tennisball
ricocheting into the crowd
warning system in place at the moment seems just about right to me , warning , point, game then defaulted
BTW trying to equate the damage a tennis ball can do to that done by a car crash only demonstrates my point with the hysteria surrounding a tennisball
ricocheting into the crowd
What about a racket handle in your loved ones eye?
Just to get a bit of perspective back here, it turns out Nole DIDN'T hit the ball into the crowd, it bounced ON THE COURT and THEN into the crowd - so not nearly so dangerous. Or that's my understanding of what happened anyway. Had he hit the ball directly at the crowd, whatever his intention as regards hurting anyone, then the rule is he should be defaulted - I was wrong about Serena but what about Henman. Wasn't he defaulted for hitting a ball girl? Allbeit not in a final and then there was the infamous Nalbandian incident in the final at Queens where he smashed the hoarding in front of a line judge, causing the line judge's leg to bleed and Cilic was given the match.
Think there has to be a rule about this kind of thing to prevent players even thinking about it - you can't know when you do something precisely what the outcome will be. Just because luck says no one gets hurt, doesn't mean it should be ignored IMHO - someone else doing it another time may really hurt someone.
Just to get a bit of perspective back here, it turns out Nole DIDN'T hit the ball into the crowd, it bounced ON THE COURT and THEN into the crowd - so not nearly so dangerous. Or that's my understanding of what happened anyway. Had he hit the ball directly at the crowd, whatever his intention as regards hurting anyone, then the rule is he should be defaulted - I was wrong about Serena but what about Henman. Wasn't he defaulted for hitting a ball girl? Allbeit not in a final and then there was the infamous Nalbandian incident in the final at Queens where he smashed the hoarding in front of a line judge, causing the line judge's leg to bleed and Cilic was given the match.
Think there has to be a rule about this kind of thing to prevent players even thinking about it - you can't know when you do something precisely what the outcome will be. Just because luck says no one gets hurt, doesn't mean it should be ignored IMHO - someone else doing it another time may really hurt someone.
Yes he was.
Josephine
11-01-2017, 17:21
yes it was stated clearly a few pages ago that Nole hit the ball onto the court and it bounced into the crowd. he got a warning for it as he should have done.
Andy kicked a ball that very nearly hit the umpire. Don't think he even got a warning - but no difference really.
But Djoko does it much more often now and I can't remember Andy every losing a point for 2 warnings in a match?
HERE YOU GO COPMPARE AND CONTRAST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc0md-Z4psI
AND ANDYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKwIdkLv6CA
Just to get a bit of perspective back here, it turns out Nole DIDN'T hit the ball into the crowd, it bounced ON THE COURT and THEN into the crowd - so not nearly so dangerous. Or that's my understanding of what happened anyway. Had he hit the ball directly at the crowd, whatever his intention as regards hurting anyone, then the rule is he should be defaulted - I was wrong about Serena but what about Henman. Wasn't he defaulted for hitting a ball girl? Allbeit not in a final and then there was the infamous Nalbandian incident in the final at Queens where he smashed the hoarding in front of a line judge, causing the line judge's leg to bleed and Cilic was given the match.
Think there has to be a rule about this kind of thing to prevent players even thinking about it - you can't know when you do something precisely what the outcome will be. Just because luck says no one gets hurt, doesn't mean it should be ignored IMHO - someone else doing it another time may really hurt someone.
Bounced or hit at the ground? Either way only Novak knows what his intentions were, but where the hell did he think it would end up?
(Bottom paragraph) +1
That's what I said didle I?
Don't care who it is Andy or the queen of Sheba. If they persist in this venting of the spleen at others
then it stops being passion and edges into needless, childish, reckless behaviour.
:getcoat:
It looks like Djokovic was aiming the ball at his box but like a Djokosmash :p he mistimed it and the ball head towards a linesperson who parried it into the crowd. It would be interesting to know if the ball had hit its intended target whether he would have received a warning.
If I was in the crowd and a ball hit me accidently (which it clearly was), I would be devastated if a player, any player got defaulted because of it!
Josephine
15-01-2017, 13:55
AND ANDYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKwIdkLv6CA
Yes Andy's looks worse, being purely objective. And not many of us on here were saying he should have been defaulted. What was Andy's intention in kicking that ball? I don't know but it went directly towards the umpire and then the crowd. So by definition above (Pabbers's post) he should have been defaulted. (Not my view).
But he hasn't done this kind of thing nearly as often recently as Djokovic. All the Djoko fans have to keep going back to this incident.;)
david1610
19-01-2017, 05:09
Nole loses first set on tb. Must admit I was watching Heather's match until now...
david1610
19-01-2017, 05:44
Isomin has just had 2 SPs for 2-0 set lead and .... no.
themass15
19-01-2017, 07:01
Just woken up to see Djoko in a real dog fight.
david1610
19-01-2017, 07:39
Now two sets all!!! They are in the fifth hour!
Yay - Istomin takes the fourth set and they are into a decider!
Brilliant- just watched it. Istomin held his nerve. Can't see him winning mind you.
Nole always seems to storm the fifth set in these situations
Brilliant- just watched it. Istomin held his nerve. Can't see him winning mind you.
Unlikely, I know, but stranger things have happened. Even if he loses, he's kept Djoko out there for over four hours!
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:03
Come on Denis!!!
:dance:
OMG!!! I heard about Novak saving a set point to win the third or fourth set (I think) and then I heard it might be going to a fifth set (which it has).
Djoko usually comes back. - maybe not this time!
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:07
Istomin breaks and holds for a 4-2 lead in the 5th set.
Noley serving.
Istomin now winning 4 - 3 in the fifth set.
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:08
This is brilliant! C'mon Denis :big grin: But whatever happens it's excellent because it's taking plenty out of Nole's tank :thumbup:
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:09
Istomin to hold his serve ... can he keep his nerve?
sir coolerking
19-01-2017, 08:11
5-3, Come on Denis!!
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:12
Istomin 5-3.
Djokovic looking down the long barrel of defeat in R2 at the AO.
:cauldron:
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:12
Istomin to hold his serve ... can he keep his nerve?
Yep! :worship:
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:12
Let rip for the break Denis! Do it!
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:13
Nole tight as a drum!
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:14
*30-15, Nole on serve. C'mon Denis - break him here!
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:15
Moment of truth. Istomin to serve for the match at 5-4.
:nailbiter:
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:16
*15-0
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:17
*30-0
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:17
Argh - Nole was so tense Isto should have put more pressure on. But ok, now or never, serve for your life Isto!
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:17
*30-15
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:18
*40-15, 2 mps for Istomin
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:18
Istomin wins!!!!!
:dance:
sad for nole happy for andys world ranking gap
Who would have thought. Held his nerve, well done Istomin. Big shock.
dewster99
19-01-2017, 08:19
WOW!!! Can't believe he saw it through especially after the multitude of chances. In shock
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:19
Denis the Menace takes out the Djoker 7-6(8) 5-7 2-6 7-6(5) 6-4
Someone give him an honorary British knighthood ...
;)
andy is the least affected in the draw, commmies are such muppets
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:22
Wonderful!!!!!! Fabulous!!!!! Fantastic!!! Tremendous!!!! Very very well done and congratulations to *Wild Card* Istomin - the win of his life :clap::clap::clap:
And bad luck Nole, I have nothing against him personally :thumbup:
andy is the least affected in the draw, commmies are such muppets
Still think Stan the man is Andy's biggest problem
P-a-r-t-y-i-n-g!! Loved the interview.
Still think Stan the man is Andy's biggest problemI'm worrying about querry for now :lol:
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:26
It would seem Nole's quick trip back to Serbia between Doha and Oz didn't help him much.
:shades:
Wow and wow! I don't think anyone would have predicted that. All the pressure will be on Andy now though.
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 08:27
I'm worrying about querry for now :lol:
Me too!
:help:
Denis Istomin! I must say I didn't see that coming.......but....maybe given the recent signs it shouldn't have been such a big surprise! Great match. Thoroughly enjoyed it! I was just glad for it to get to a 5th and then for Istomin to go on and take the match...wow!! A five hours match but Frew McM did make the comment....if Djok hadn't bounced the ball so much the match would have been an hour shorter!! Good one Frew! Istomin looked shell shocked in his interview. Think he will have made many new friends. Oh this is fun! I'm wrecked! Have to brace myself for an all nighter tomorrow too!! :swingin::swingin::excited:
It's tonight isn't it!! Not tomorrow! Yikes!!
themass15
19-01-2017, 08:52
And me. Querrey is no pushover. Won his last match very easily. Can play lights out tennis. The prediction in the Times last week was there would be a changing of the guard this year.
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 08:54
Q. "What do you take from that match?" NOVAK DJOKOVIC: "I take my bags, and I go home."
Nole's presser in Jon Wertheim's words: This is an absolute clinic by Djokovic on how to handle defeat with grace. Should be mandatory viewing for athletes in individual sports.
Well said. People are too hard on 'villain' Nole - he's a decent guy :thumbup: (that said I'm not heartbroken to say goodbye ;))
themass15
19-01-2017, 09:00
Who was it who said as usual Nole has an easy draw?
Heard the result while in the car.
Maybe not the shock it would have been once, but still surprised Djoko didn't find a way through.
As has been said, doesn't impact on Andy at all until a potential final.
Feet on the ground. Big Sam to deal with first.
Q. "What do you take from that match?" NOVAK DJOKOVIC: "I take my bags, and I go home."
Nole's presser in Jon Wertheim's words: This is an absolute clinic by Djokovic on how to handle defeat with grace. Should be mandatory viewing for athletes in individual sports.
Well said. People are too hard on 'villain' Nole - he's a decent guy :thumbup: (that said I'm not heartbroken to say goodbye ;))
Djoko has always been far more gracious in defeat than in victory. I don't think any of us would disagree with that.
Djoko has always been far more gracious in defeat than in victory. I don't think any of us would disagree with that.
I agree, also I'm delighted that we won't have to put up with Djoko's victory movement to all parts of the stadium.
Who was it who said as usual Nole has an easy draw?
Think most folk said Nadal had the easy draw, that said noles was relatively straightforward a shock defeat doesn't negate that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmyJZ7iZQg
Becker retweeted this.
Amanda Davies @AmandaDCNN
#Djokovic needs to go back to the drawing board & ask how badly do I want it.. it's called sacrifice says @TheBorisBecker. IV on #worldsport
He's gloating. :big grin:
I had to leave for work when it was 2-2 in the 5th. I honestly thought it was going to be the usual story of brave attempt but Nole comes good in the end. I was so shocked to see Denis won! It really brightened up my morning (horrific journey to work, 2 hours - thought I was never getting there). At least we are spared the dreadful victory show from him. I think he is usually pretty gracious in defeat, which is his saving grace really because a lot of his other antics wind me right up :) The bottom half of the draw is wide open, QF could be just about any one.
Sallydaisy
19-01-2017, 13:15
Couldn't resist posting this tweet ...
Chris Goldsmith @TheTennisTalker 34m34 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/TheTennisTalker/status/822060513781841920) Federer to Nadal.. 'Combined we have only lost 3 sets to Istomin in 11 matches, Won 11 Lost 0, Djokovic lost 3 sets in one match' #AusOpen (https://twitter.com/hashtag/AusOpen?src=hash)
Sorry -can't get the image to copy in, which is a shame 'cos it's a lovely one of Waffa and Feddy having a right old titter.
;)
Rosalind
19-01-2017, 15:09
I have just learned of Djoker's fate as I have been avoiding tennis all day in order to watch Kyle and Heather without knowing scores!
this is how I feel :skippy: :skippy::laugh: Is that wrong of me!!!!! :knight: oh lord, sometimes I feel when the obstacles are removed, it gets even more scary!
I was at work and hanging on livescores from 4-2 in the 5th. I expected to open my AO app to see Novak had won in 4 so was delighted to see Denis a break up in the 5th. Watching those scores rick round seemed to take an eternity and not much work got done! Couldnt quite believe it when I saw the green tick against Istomin's name!
supergran
19-01-2017, 19:56
Tucked up on the sofa I watched the first two sets. I didn't intend to sleep but woke up at the end of the fourth set and was really surprised a fifth was about to happen. Supergramps woke up also and we watched it together. Unbelievable really but Istomin was incredible and Nole his usual sporting self at the end. That always interests me when considering the antics he employs. Thought he was rather subdued in this match or did I miss anything?
Thought he was rather subdued in this match or did I miss anything?
I agree SG. Even though he pulled out all the stops in Doha and appeared to be back to his best, it still seems to me that Djoko would rather be anywhere than on a tennis court at the moment. He is going through the motions but I don't think he was even particularly bothered about the loss today.
E-X-T-R-A E-X-T-R-A
Aussie Miscellaneous sales.
One Egg For Sale. Comes complete with Guru and free coach/closet clown.
Personally I was shocked they parted ways, they have such a lot in common.;);)
R B I do hope you had that bet on Andy we talked about.
:thumbup:
RosieBear
19-01-2017, 20:52
R B I do hope you had that bet on Andy we talked about.
:thumbup:
I have indeed, Jags. £20 acca on career > calendar slam :thumbup: Stranger things have happened. Imagine the odds in 2011, when Nole won 3 slams that season alone and Andy had none to his name, of Andy becoming the only male player in history to win 2 Olympic golds. Wish I had a couple of quid on that. Not going to miss out again ;)
I have indeed, Jags. £20 acca on career > calendar slam :thumbup: Stranger things have happened. Imagine the odds in 2011, when Nole won 3 slams that season alone and Andy had none to his name, of Andy becoming the only male player in history to win 2 Olympic golds. Wish I had a couple of quid on that. Not going to miss out again ;)
Great now all you have to do is hope is I keep my money in my pocket.:laugh:
I daren't even ask you to put it on for me.:taz:
After Doha, I posted this 'I bet Nole was glad that match yesterday was not over 5 sets!! If it had I don't think he would have had a chance, so bring on AO!. So if it had been 3 sets today, Nole would have won! But it was 5 sets today, and Nole lost! Just a little (probably irrelevant!) observation. I did question his sustainability over 5 sets but I have to say I didn't expect Istomin to answer that question!!
banskogirl
19-01-2017, 21:41
After Doha, I posted this 'I bet Nole was glad that match yesterday was not over 5 sets!! If it had I don't think he would have had a chance, so bring on AO!. So if it had been 3 sets today, Nole would have won! But it was 5 sets today, and Nole lost! Just a little (probably irrelevant!) observation. I did question his sustainability over 5 sets but I have to say I didn't expect Istomin to answer that question!!
Thanks Pat :) I agree, and I think there's more of lost confidence and a feeling that inevitably Andy will now beat him than just lost Mojo!
I don't think he has the stamina he had and I don't think we'll know why until he retires and brings out a book ;)
Andy has the heart and soul of a Knight.:knight:
Nole has the Liver and onions of a transport cafe.
Watched this last night and didn't dare to hope that Dennis was going to win it. Thoroughly enjoyed the match and the way Istomin hung in there. He was definitely the better player.
I agree Djoko is a good loser and so happy we don't have to see the love fest after his wins any more this tournament.
lovetennis
20-01-2017, 20:16
Agree Djok is a gracious loser, he's so good at it I think he should do it often :big grin: . Only watched on live scores as I was on the train on my way to a job interview. Djok lost before I arrived so went into interview with a spring in my step. I got the job so maybe I owe Djok a drink :wino:
Agree Djok is a gracious loser, he's so good at it I think he should do it often :big grin: . Only watched on live scores as I was on the train on my way to a job interview. Djok lost before I arrived so went into interview with a spring in my step. I got the job so maybe I owe Djok a drink :wino:
Definitely!!! Seriously though - well done and good luck with the new job.:thumbup:
Agree Djok is a gracious loser, he's so good at it I think he should do it often :big grin: . Only watched on live scores as I was on the train on my way to a job interview. Djok lost before I arrived so went into interview with a spring in my step. I got the job so maybe I owe Djok a drink :wino:
Congratulations! Well done you! :clap::clap:
Agree Djok is a gracious loser, he's so good at it I think he should do it often :big grin: . Only watched on live scores as I was on the train on my way to a job interview. Djok lost before I arrived so went into interview with a spring in my step. I got the job so maybe I owe Djok a drink :wino:
Reply from Djok:
"Rock on love tennis, glad it helped and I was good for something.
Now then that drink you owe me, what you putting in it?"
;):wino:
lovetennis
20-01-2017, 22:55
:cheers:
Reply from Djok:
"Rock on love tennis, glad it helped and I was good for something.
Now then that drink you owe me, what you putting in it?"
;):wino:
It will be gluten free
:cheers:
It will be gluten free
Thought you would'ave suggested EGG Nog.
But probably not free of Laxatives?
;)
E-X-T-R-A E-X-T-R-A
Aussie Miscellaneous sales.
One Egg For Sale. Comes complete with Guru and free coach/closet clown.
Personally I was shocked they parted ways, they have such a lot in common.;);)
Now I know some of what I post can be a bit naughty but I fail to understand why we can't mention the naughty business that Bo Bo got up to some
years ago without it getting changed. Just so I fully understand, you know?
When I post on here I never mean offence and I can guarantee I would never feel offended by anything I read. The changing of Swear words even if written
with only the first and last letters with &%$* in between I understand now is a no no. But I don't understand why fully backed up and reported fact gets edited.
PS. I don't think Bo Bo is a clown. They are not my words. And I don't find him that funny.
Just for the record.
:shrug:
I see Djokovic is playing davis cup
Now I know some of what I post can be a bit naughty but I fail to understand why we can't mention the naughty business that Bo Bo got up to some
years ago without it getting changed. Just so I fully understand, you know?
When I post on here I never mean offence and I can guarantee I would never feel offended by anything I read. The changing of Swear words even if written
with only the first and last letters with &%$* in between I understand now is a no no. But I don't understand why fully backed up and reported fact gets edited.
PS. I don't think Bo Bo is a clown. They are not my words. And I don't find him that funny.
Just for the record.
:shrug:Unless you've quoted the wrong post, the only person to have edited that post is you.
Unless you've quoted the wrong post, the only person to have edited that post is you.
Thanks for the reply Hawkeye.:thanks:
I can promise you 100% that I didn't use the word clown.
I used the word adulterer.
So if I edit it back is that ok?
Do you want to check with all the other mods first?
It's fine to edit it back but I too can assure you that, just as is indicated at the bottom of that post, you appear to have edited it yourself unless someone else had access to your pc. We mods don't hide the fact that we've edited something......the name can be clearly seen when we do so :)
sir coolerking
23-01-2017, 14:33
I saw the original post and saw the word adulterer. I thought it a bold word to use as whilst we're all fully aware of Boris's misdemeanours, to put them so suggestively towards Novak was questionable (even though we've all been thinking it).
So yeah, I'm pretty certain someone changed that word, the question is who?
Sherlock????
It's fine to edit it back but I too can assure you that, just as is indicated at the bottom of that post, you appear to have edited it yourself unless someone else had access to your pc. We mods don't hide the fact that we've edited something......the name can be clearly seen when we do so :)
Hi sorry but there's only Lynne and I and she didn't change it, also I have noticed a couple of times my posts being changed
without it saying so at the bottom. Mainly naughty words so I respect that and don't do it any more. Someone is deffo able to
edit without it showing as coolerking backs up my original post. And with my rich vocabulary clown is not a word I ever use.
Edit the edit was made 3 mins after and I only edited a spelling mistake and it doesn't take me 3 mins to do that.
If you edit a post immediately after posting, it doesn't show that it's been edited.
It's within 2 minutes. Which isn't really relevant.
If you edit a post immediately after posting, it doesn't show that it's been edited.
Erm look above 2 mins difference and that was to write the whole edit.
I work with a stanley knife not a keyboard I'm really slow at typing.
But it wouldn't even take me 3 mins to correct a spelling mistake. (which was my edit) So to me that makes the 2 mins relevant Hawkeye.
Just wondering why anyone would not believe me when I say
I DON'T USE THE WORD CLOWN.
I did not edit this. Perhaps it might come in useful when it happens to someone else.
Hey Ho.
Edit Maybe it was Bo Bo. The clown?
I think it was a bit dodgy of borris to suggest Novak needed to make more sacrifices. Like him or hate him his record and achievements in tennis stand for themselves. He has earned the right to decide on his own priorities. For borris to say stuff like that after being his coach is a bit of a stab in the back. I had hoped that maybe they could in time come back together but I can't see that now. If I was djoko I'd always be worried what he would say or reveal if we split again. Andy himself said about struggling to find the balance since having a child. In some ways he is very lucky, like mrs fed, Kim is prepared to travel and to bring the child along. But it's not for everyone. Kim sacrifices, maybe mrs djoko is less willing to these days. Stefan is older than Sofia, maybe he needs more of a routine now. I felt so sad when asked about Stefan in an interview djoko said he missed him. So he is trying to sacrifice, he is missing his kid, who is no doubt missing his daddy. Where is the shame if he decides he doesn't want to sacrifice more? If he decideds that these days times with his son bring him more joy that a tennis court. These are people at the end of the day. So no borris, I don't think advocating more and more sacrifice is the answer and I don't think djoko needs that advice. This difference of opinion is no doubt why the relationship broke down. Perhaps Novak is now seeing, like Raffa before him that there is more to life than tennis. It sounds weird saying it, I love tennis. Novak has to do what is right for him and his family here. Borris should respect that and have more respect for a guy he worked with for years that to drop bombs like that for rating spikes and conversation. Very poor form Borris.
............. but isn't that Boris all over?
RosieBear
24-01-2017, 18:44
............. but isn't that Boris all over?
Yep :rolleyes: (and conversely not a peep from Mr Lendl when he split with Andy).
Arguably that was because Lendl called those shots, and Novak called his.
............. but isn't that Boris all over?
+1
Funny that?
angiebabez
05-02-2017, 12:39
Novak isnt playing Dubai apparantly. Shoulder injury
Saw that one coming, his serve was off during the AO. The. He got treatment in their DC tie I thought he'd be relieved they were through. He has suffered with shoulder issues throughout his career. I hope he gets better soon and can return to the fold.
themass15
05-02-2017, 12:56
Novak isnt playing Dubai apparantly. Shoulder injury
a bit early to make that decision, but he doesn't have too many points to defend there.
a bit early to make that decision, but he doesn't have too many points to defend there.
It is only two weeks until it starts and he'd be travelling in less than that, he'd usually be hitting for a least a week before travelling to an event. It is an injury he has had before so he knows how long it takes to repair and how much time to recover. My guess if it's the same shoulder as before is that he'd have to not hit a ball for at least a week and then gradually rehab it. Pulling out before the draw opens it up to add another seeded player. I prefer that to people pulling out last minute or withdrawing in a match.
Some talk of a second baby for Novak??
roytennisfan
13-02-2017, 18:59
Some talk of a second baby for Novak??
You mean this
http://www.tennisworldusa.org/news/news/Novak_Djokovic/40637/according-to-rumours-novak-djokovic-to-become-father-again/
I wasn't sure of the truth of this tbh as the original source was a Serbian tabloid and tabloids love or deal in rumour. Last I saw of Jelana she looked thin and unwell. Anyway I hope he is recooporating well and will be back strong on the us hard courts
http://www.bnpparibasopen.com/en/media-and-news/news/2017/02/02/djokovic-chases-fourth-straight-title?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=17Tickets&utm_medium=Tweet
Like him or not djoko's foundation has been doing some great work and djoko himself has a strong charity record. Here is some of the great work his foundation has been doing recently, (the foundation is run by jelana these days) http://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2017/02/21/serbia-champions-early-childhood-development-17000-additional-preschool-spaces-with-world-bank-support
It's being reported (http://siempre889.mx/espacio-deportivo/novak-djokovic-estara-en-abierto-mexicano-tenis/) that Djokovic has received a wild card into Acapulco next week.
themass15
23-02-2017, 19:44
It's being reported (http://siempre889.mx/espacio-deportivo/novak-djokovic-estara-en-abierto-mexicano-tenis/) that Djokovic has received a wild card into Acapulco next week.
Wonder why he chose that over Dubai. Weaker field I suppose
themass15
23-02-2017, 20:03
Nearer to Indian Wells too.
Wonder why he chose that over Dubai. Weaker field I suppose
Arguably the field in Acapulco is stronger with the 8th seed ranked around 20 compared with 33 in Dubai. Maybe he's seen the forecast for Dubai where it seems to have been raining for the last two weeks. ;) There is also the financial inducement.
WimbledonWestie
23-02-2017, 20:59
Wouldn't have thought you could be allowed to pull out of one event with an injury then enter another. :confused:. Unless there's some sort of time rule whereby if u pull out a good bit before the event there's allowance for earlier than expected recovery.
Novak Djokovic @DjokerNole
Great news! You'll see me back on court next week in Acapulco at @AbiertoTelcel Did you miss me? :p
Well did we? :p ;)
angiebabez
23-02-2017, 21:56
Well did we? :p ;)
Aye.....like a hole in the heid
Djokovic has only once before played in Latin America at the Rio Olympics losing to Del Potro in the first round. Delpo will be unseeded in Acapulco. ;)
I would agree it's a strong field in Rio. I think he expected to still be recovering when he said no WC for Dubai, it was weeks ago. Fit withdrawals in general though, It's hard to predict when you will be better but I think players should be encouraged to give more notice. Hate this business of it being the morning the tournie begins or the day before. Allowing them to take a WC somewhere else encourages then to give more notice.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/djokovic-acapulco-2017-wild-card
Other than playing Davis Cup, Djokovic wasn't scheduled to play any tournaments between the Australian Open and Indian Wells. Maybe he asked for the late wild card to get as far away from his wife (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/novak-djokovic-wife-caught-arguing-9903062) as possible. ;)
Djokovic said in Doha at the beginning of the year he wasn't going to play Dubai but he was open to change. He was never on the entry list for Dubai.
Djokovic said in Doha at the beginning of the year he wasn't going to play Dubai but he was open to change. He was never on the entry list for Dubai.
My mistake I read somewhere he had pulled out with a shoulder injury, but I can't find it. It may have been on here. I now see what he actually said was he wasn't going to ask for a wildcard so he could recover. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.tennisworldusa.org/news_amp/news/Novak_Djokovic/40449/novak-djokovic-i-won-t-play-in-dubai-my-next-tournament-in-indian-wells-/?client=safari thanks Bardot. Hope djoko is recovered enough to play well in Mexico
WimbledonWestie
24-02-2017, 07:42
Me too
themass15
24-02-2017, 13:24
There is a small piece in The Times today about an argument Novak and his wife had when he was practising which, apparently, is on social media.
It's in Bardot's post above.
Though hardly an argument, a sentence from his wife...the press do love to sensationalise though lol :)
roytennisfan
24-02-2017, 17:04
Other than playing Davis Cup, Djokovic wasn't scheduled to play any tournaments between the Australian Open and Indian Wells. Maybe he asked for the late wild card to get as far away from his wife (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis/novak-djokovic-wife-caught-arguing-9903062) as possible. ;)
Don't think Djokovic has won a match in South America, on his only previous visit (as far as I know) he lost to a certain DelPotro in the opening round....oh how I would love a r1 rematch, fingers crossed
themass15
24-02-2017, 17:26
Me too. Would love Delpo to give him a walloping
Though hardly an argument, a sentence from his wife...the press do love to sensationalise though lol :)
I know !!!!! Thought the same thing , just silly
Djoko plays klizan second on central tomorrow in Acapulco and i have to agree with this article, more than looking for win/loss I will be looking for a change in his state of mind. If he continues as he has so far he isn't much a threat going forward. I hope he can find his best. http://tennismash.com/2017/02/28/woodbridge-djokovic-sending-message/
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/djokovic-acapulco-2017-preview
Interesting article. I find it crazy that djoko says he has been leaner than he is now. Maybe he means by a fraction so small it's not noticeable to the human eye. Glad that his mindset is improving. I know he doesn't have a lot of fans on here but i like it when the top guys are all playing well, it. can produce some fantastic matches. One of my favourite non Andy matches was the AO epic between djoko and Raffa! http://tennismash.com/2017/03/10/djokovic-im-different-player/
RosieBear
11-03-2017, 08:51
Interesting article. I find it crazy that djoko says he has been leaner than he is now. Maybe he means by a fraction so small it's not noticeable to the human eye. Glad that his mindset is improving. I know he doesn't have a lot of fans on here but i like it when the top guys are all playing well, it. can produce some fantastic matches. One of my favourite non Andy matches was the AO epic between djoko and Raffa! http://tennismash.com/2017/03/10/djokovic-im-different-player/
Def agree, me too Jerry - need Novak playing well as he is one of the very few players who can engage Andy in a genuine thriller. My heart was pounding when Andy played Kohli in Dubai, Raonic at O2 etc. I live for those types of matches but they are few and far between because even if some opponents grab a set, Andy's so good most can't live with him to make it touch and go at finishing line. Pedestrian early round matches are fine, but nothing compares to an epic nailbiter! :)
Respectful words from Djokovic for Andy in his press conference after his defeat by Kyrgios.
Q. You had a long sort of apprentice ship at No. 3 until you became No. 1. Murray had an even longer one. What kind of transition did you have when you became No. 1? Have you talked to Andy at all about what it means to be No. 1 and sort of the new role that he's in?
NOVAK DJOKOVIC: Well, we didn't have much of a chat there. Obviously he's somebody that I respect tremendously because of his determination and, you know, talent, everything that he possesses. He brings a lot to the tennis world, and he deserves to be No. 1, you know, after so many years of trying and playing on such a high level. It was meant to be for him last season.
Seems like Andy is not the only player borris has felt the need to rag on, he sent a tweet to djoko telling to "clean your shoes, fix your racket and get back to business" http://baseline.tennis.com/article/65159/boris-becker-challenge-tweet-novak-djokovic
Novak looking forward to getting some matches under his belt now his injury has healed. Looking to get match fit http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/04/djokovic-says-elbow-healed-looking-to-return-to-competition/65190/
Josephine
02-05-2017, 12:48
Jelena and Novak expecting another baby!. Congratulations to them!
http://tennismash.com/2017/05/02/djokovic-second-baby/
roytennisfan
02-05-2017, 13:06
Odds on he will be #1 in 2018 then lol
Really not sure how this is confirmation, unless the umbrella emoticon has means I don't understand lol. Everyone was sure it was the case in Monte Carlo but no word from them yet. If it is the case then congrats to them.
Novak did put up a picture on him practising on clay yesterday on FB but it didn't look like Monte Carlo.
Josephine
02-05-2017, 15:08
There is a pregnancy emoticon in the instagram post made by Jelena - in the international language we all seem to speak!
They are in Marbella - there are photos on twitter and she is definitely pregnant!
greatunclebulgaria
02-05-2017, 18:30
Tennis podcast made mention of an official confirmation today
There is a pregnancy emoticon in the instagram post made by Jelena - in the international language we all seem to speak!
They are in Marbella - there are photos on twitter and she is definitely pregnant!
You could see she was pregnant in Monte Carlo. She had a large bump but if was all a source close to the couple. There wasn't a pregnancy one there an umbrella, heart, kiss, two people with a love heart, a wave and a cloud. If one of those mean pregnancy then excuse my ignorance. I assumed it would be a bump or a pregnant woman.
Josephine
02-05-2017, 22:59
On my PC it shows a lady with a bump icon, as reported on several sites. On ipad it only shows black & white lines. No idea why (guess it doesn't exist in all formats).
Djokovic has confirmed in interview with a Serbian newspaper and they have posed for a lovely photo showing baby bump (not paparazzi photo)
So like I said:
Congratulations!
No one was disagreeing with your congratulations! I never said she wasn't pregnant. She had a clear bump on Monte Carlo. And again in their photos from the past few days. I hadn't seen confirmation from then and it didn't come up on my iPhone. same as in Feb when it was first mentioned all I saw was a source close to the couple or a friend of the couple...
Josephine
03-05-2017, 01:42
Glad we all agree now.
Glad we all agree now.
By we all I take it you mean me though I'm not sure why as again, I never disagreed. I said I didn't see the emoticon which I didn't. And still haven't. She did look noticeably pregnant in Monte Carlo which I said and there have rumours since Feb.
Josephine
03-05-2017, 11:07
I was just clarifying it was confirmation from them which was the part you were disagreeing with.
Now we both know there is indeed a pregnancy emoticon in Jelena's post and it cannot be seen in all mediums.
RosieBear
03-05-2017, 11:12
Čestitam Jeleni i Novaku!:cheers:
Djokovic is going solo (http://novakdjokovic.com/en/news/media/i-want-to-find-the-winning-spark-on-the-court-again/) (for the meantime) and has parted way with his entire team, Vajda, Gritsch and Amanovic!
Djokovic is going solo (http://novakdjokovic.com/en/news/media/i-want-to-find-the-winning-spark-on-the-court-again/) (for the meantime) and has parted way with his entire team, Vajda, Gritsch and Amanovic!
Wow! Did we see that coming?
I just saw that. borris wasn't a surprise but vajda, that really did shock me. They always seemed so close. I guess sometimes you feel like you need a full shake up. They care for him so much maybe they struggle to be tough on him, and make too many allowances for his personal life and his previous achievements because they were so involved in it all. A whole new team wouldn't focus on the past and would find it easier to start from scratch. Perhaps it would be easier to draw lines between family and team. I really feel for him though, this just shows how much he is struggling and hoping to find a way through. I hope this works for him.
lovetennis
05-05-2017, 11:34
I'm not surprised by it. He's been struggling to find consistent for for nearly a year now and he knows if he doesn't start to produce the wins his ranking is going to start dropping after the French. Whatever he has been doing hasn't worked so he must feel a complete change is in order.
RosieBear
05-05-2017, 11:42
So many of the factors that shored up Novak's dominance are over as of end of last year and beginning of this one. Andy fit and reunited with Ivan, and second half of 2016 belonged to him. Fed and Rafa resurgent in 2017. Lower ranked players broken free from the hoodoo thanks to wins from Vesely, Querrey etc. I wish Novak well, hope he enjoys his tennis and finds a coach he fits with, but the monopoly is over, and in my opinion never to be repeated whoever he appoints.
I was quite surprised by this - didn't expect him to ditch Marjan. But who knows, it sounds like its all amicable and I'm sure they just want the best for him. I can't see Novak getting back to the total domination he had - but never say never, look at Fed and Rafa's comebacks. I hope Novak gets himself to a place he's happy though, and it will be very interesting to see who he appoints next.
.......borris wasn't a surprise but vajda, that really did shock me........
........ this just shows how much he is struggling and hoping to find a way through......
I was shocked too re Vajda. And I think you have hit the nail on the head there Jerry.
I was quite surprised by this - didn't expect him to ditch Marjan..... I hope Novak gets himself to a place he's happy though,......
I agree jan
He is also going to try shock treatment!!!! What next
HoopGirl
05-05-2017, 16:56
Yes shocking news!
Shows his desperation to lose someone who has been with his all the way.
It will be interesting to see who he goes for as his coach. Surely he must have someone already lined up - bets on McEnroe anyone?
He is also going to try shock treatment!!!! What next
Really? Grasping at straws springs to mind.
He is also going to try shock treatment!!!! What next
It is my understanding that parting company with his entire coaching team is the 'shock therapy'.
Was just going to post that Pat!!:thumbup:
hmm , thats pretty radical :lol:
(wonder if pepe imaz is still on the payroll )
themass15
05-05-2017, 18:45
That occurred to me; I bet he is.
david1610
05-05-2017, 18:56
As the BBC report on this said, shock tactics is a very apt way to describe it.
Poor Djoko - it has to be a real crisis of confidence.
I think his head is all over the place at the moment.
Sallydaisy
05-05-2017, 22:41
I think his head is all over the place at the moment.
Yep, another baby on the way, another mouth to feed so he needs to concentrate on winning!
Given Mrs 'glum' Djokovic's presence at tournaments from the USO onwards I'd say the first part of my previous sentence might be enough of a miracle to inspire Nole!
;)
(sorry, that is being a bit cheeky of me).
lovetennis
07-05-2017, 17:11
Mike Dickson of Daily Mail tweeting that Djok says he is still working with Pepe Imaz (the guru). I hadn't seen him courtside recently so I wondered if he was still a presence. Apparently he is
RosieBear
07-05-2017, 18:38
I have no doubt that Novak is still working his "guru", and I don't like it at all. I'm not narrow-minded about approaches/beliefs, whatever works for a person, and if anything I respect Novak for trying a variety of techniques.......but I would put money on the guru being at the heart of Novak's radical decision to split with his entire team. Isolating someone from other influences is, of course, a hallmark of manipulative control... I try not to be judgemental about people, but I do not get good vibes about that guru, and (without wishing to appear cocky) I'm usually quite an intuitive person... Will have to wait and see, I just hope things go OK for Novak.
WimbledonWestie
07-05-2017, 20:32
They were my suspicions too RB, feel the guru trying to have absolute influence. Somewhat creepy imo.
I'll be more blunt , I think hes a wacko !!
I agree RB but I also wonder if the guru is there because Jelena wants him there.
I agree RB but I also wonder if the guru is there because Jelena wants him there.
That's an interesting thought - the whole guru thing sounds more like a Djoko philosophy to me.
I'll be more blunt , I think hes a wacko !!
The guru or Djoko?;)
themass15
08-05-2017, 08:54
Probably both!
The guru or Djoko?;)
:lol: the guru
After reading his Blog , Im even more convinced
He makes claims that he has helped so many players. Actually none of them have done anything. Hantuchova is one and has dropped way down since engaging with him. No more needs to be said
It's all very worrying for Novak. I am not a fan, but I don't want to see him falling apart ... and it seems that is what is happening. I totally agree with RB about the guru. Of course, we have no idea what is going on in Novak's head but it doesn't seem good to me and he appears to be all over the place.
Having said all that, Andy has had some fairly drastic shake ups in the past. Not the whole team at once but parting with Dani who he has known since he was 15 and Jez who he had worked with for a long time too, must have been really tough and a 'shock' to the system. Novak's 'shock' is a lot more drastic though.
Any chance of the guru helping Federer?
Any chance of the guru helping Federer?
:laugh::laugh::laugh: .... I don't think Federer needs any help whatsoever, he's doing perfectly splendid just the way he is ;)
:laugh::laugh::laugh: .... I don't think Federer needs any help whatsoever, he's doing perfectly splendid just the way he is ;)
Oh I don't know, I think the Guru has done wonders for a Djokovic's game. I think he could do wonders for Federer :-),:-)
Andre Agassi could be the new supercoach to reignite Novak Djokovic......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/05/08/andre-agassi-could-new-supercoach-reignite-novak-djokovic/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_em
themass15
09-05-2017, 08:28
More than likely bring a lot back to his game.
I reckon Agassi could be the first of many forthcoming speculations by the press!
Andre Agassi could be the new supercoach to reignite Novak Djokovic......
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/05/08/andre-agassi-could-new-supercoach-reignite-novak-djokovic/?WT.mc_id=tmg_share_em
Please no! Agassi is one of my fave players of all time and Djokovic is not shall we say. I really hope this doesn't happen ....
lovetennis
09-05-2017, 12:23
Sampras has also been mentioned too. Probably just the press speculating but whoever it is , they will have to put up with the guru. I'm not sure that any Supercoach is going to want to play along with that situation
Sampras has also been mentioned too. Probably just the press speculating but whoever it is , they will have to put up with the guru. I'm not sure that any Supercoach is going to want to play along with that situation
I would prefer Sampras, never liked him ....
Rosalind
09-05-2017, 13:22
I'm not sure on Agassi - he's a family guy way over in Las Vegas. Can't see that happening. McEnroe and the Guru - now that would be fun to see!! sparks flying come to mind! How about Connors :laugh: ?
From what I saw of Conners being interviewed at Wimbledon the poor guy's joints are completely stuffed. He can barely walk, so I think he will be a big no no.
Rosalind
10-05-2017, 06:46
From what I saw of Conners being interviewed at Wimbledon the poor guy's joints are completely stuffed. He can barely walk, so I think he will be a big no no.
Oh but it would be such fun to see how it panned out with the guru!
banskogirl
21-05-2017, 14:30
Did anyone else read this from Nole yesterday? It's on his instagram: Interesting he mentions his wife's view............
djokernole: 'Lightning strikes and feeds so much energy. I have been fortunate to experience sky show last night from up close. Ever since one hit me in the head I have been feeling weird. Probably gloves that Nikola Tesla wore when he was playing with lightning would help me ease the strike,but I didn't have them. Wife tells me I am crazy. No wonder... after last night's "gift" from nature. Te amo Roma. Buona notte #nolefam #nikolatesla'
lovetennis
21-05-2017, 14:36
Did anyone else read this from Nole yesterday? It's on his instagram: Interesting he mentions his wife's view............
djokernole: 'Lightning strikes and feeds so much energy. I have been fortunate to experience sky show last night from up close. Ever since one hit me in the head I have been feeling weird. Probably gloves that Nikola Tesla wore when he was playing with lightning would help me ease the strike,but I didn't have them. Wife tells me I am crazy. No wonder... after last night's "gift" from nature. Te amo Roma. Buona notte #nolefam #nikolatesla'
I saw this too. Couldn't decide if he was joking or if he really is going a bit barmy.
supergran
21-05-2017, 14:52
Where is the discussion of the final?
Should be on the tournament thread but it seems no-one is discussing it.
banskogirl
21-05-2017, 15:01
They've just appeared, weren't showing on my 'new posts' just long way round.
Josephine
21-05-2017, 15:04
Agassi apparently Novak's new coach??http://www.tenniscircus.com/news/novak-djokovic-ha-scelto-sara-andre-agassi-il-nuovo-coach/
JAMES4578
21-05-2017, 15:11
Wonder if it's more than speculation though,Sky saying Djokovic's new coach would be announced between the French and Wimbledon.
I'm really surprised that Andre would take it on. It'll probably be on a part time basis like Lendl with Andy, I would think.
Wonder if it's more than speculation though,Sky saying Djokovic's new coach would be announced between the French and Wimbledon.
Sky have just said they are expecting the announcement on Wednesday from Monte Carlo.
Josephine
21-05-2017, 16:09
Confirmed by Djokovic to press. Agassi will be in Paris with him.
Josephine
21-05-2017, 16:20
Confirmed now
Yup, they will be together in Paris but as yet no long term commitments.
HoopGirl
21-05-2017, 16:55
Blimey I am shocked about Agassi - thought he was family focused.
Must have been weird for Novak to lose to someone outside of the big 5.
Hasn't happened much!
Oh Andre, noooooo - do you know about the lightning?
RosieBear
21-05-2017, 19:06
Like Andy, all Novak needs is his confidence back. Confidence is self-trust, and trust takes time to build. For meaningful change both guys have got to grind out a string of confidence building wins, will be interesting to see if this process begins for Novak when Andre joins.
lovetennis
21-05-2017, 19:16
Oh Andre, noooooo - do you know about the lightning?
And the Guru...
That's a point - I wonder how Andre will cope with the guru? It will be interesting to see if they are both still in the box by Wimbledon.
Rosalind
21-05-2017, 21:59
Surprising and interesting - and that's without the Guru and the lightning thrown into the mix.
RoastLamb
22-05-2017, 14:20
Oh Andre, noooooo - do you know about the lightning?
???
dewster99
22-05-2017, 15:31
Andre gone through a lot of things Nole seems to be suffering personally but professionally not sure what he'll offer. Also he repeatedly said in his book he hates tennis!
I believe it's only for the French initially, isn't it?
banskogirl
22-05-2017, 21:08
Did anyone else read this from Nole yesterday? It's on his instagram: Interesting he mentions his wife's view............
djokernole: 'Lightning strikes and feeds so much energy. I have been fortunate to experience sky show last night from up close. Ever since one hit me in the head I have been feeling weird. Probably gloves that Nikola Tesla wore when he was playing with lightning would help me ease the strike,but I didn't have them. Wife tells me I am crazy. No wonder... after last night's "gift" from nature. Te amo Roma. Buona notte #nolefam #nikolatesla'
???
:)
Rosalind
23-05-2017, 09:10
:)
I did. I thought he'd either been drinking or that I had.
btw Nole... it's ti amo not te amo in Italian. His renowned linguistic ability is getting as sloppy as his tennis :smashed:
I did. I thought he'd either been drinking or that I had.
btw Nole... it's ti amo not te amo in Italian. His renowned linguistic ability is getting as sloppy as his tennis :smashed:
I remember my father telling me when I was a child:
" Remember son. berks run on rubbish and it's popular. Just watch the adverts and you'll see what I mean."
Interesting Novak and Agassi.
http://www.rolandgarros.com/en_FR/news/articles/2017-05-23/agassi_and_djokovic_by_the_book.html
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