Has the big 4 now officially become the big 2.

[daveollie]

Now Murray has just given Federer 'Another' lesson in how to play the game, is it time for Fed to accept that he's not in Andy's league any more. In fact, with the demise of Nadal's health in recent times could it be argued that the 'big 4' is now a 'big 2' consisting of the brilliant Scot and Nova Djokovic? What do you reckon guys?

[DaveArneRiise]

Next year will give us a better indication, but it would be too soon to write off Nadal and Federer at this moment in time.

[daveollie]

Next year will give us a better indication, but it would be too soon to write off Nadal and Federer at this moment in time. Just practising with a bit of arrogance at Federer's expence, haha. Great player and that, but it does feel good to give a bit back :yahoo:

[DaveArneRiise]

Just practising with a bit of arrogance at Federer's expence, haha. Great player and that, but it does feel good to give a bit back :yahoo:

It is a monstrous feat from Andy regardless of Nadal's injury to thrust himself into the top of the tennis world the way he has done in recent months. Should be revelled in. Monstrous feat. I do however think that it will be just as competitive next year and no one or two players will dominate.

[david1610]

I suspect that Rafa may remain nigh on unbeatable on clay for as many years as his knees can hold out.
However, I suspect he may have to be content with a no. 3 or no. 4 ranking if he has to play for 60% of the season from now on.
If he is fit to play all the big tourneys, then he cannot be counted out.
I still think Roger may have it in him to peak at one of the GSs each year, for at least one more year so I would not count him out, either.
So the short answer is... not quite yet!

And.... will somebody like Raonic make the break through? Or del Potro or Berdych discover the season-long consistency? Not sure.

[xenon21]

I think next year will be exciting! Potentially it could be the year of novandy. I do feel that the Novak vs Andy rivalry could be an epic one with potentially both exchanging wins

[Elenive]

definitely agree with next year being exciting! Although isn't the Novak vs Andy rivalry already epic? At least as far as 2012 goes... AO semi, Olympics semi, US final and Shanghai final, all epic matches.

[Fina]

definitely agree with next year being exciting! Although isn't the Novak vs Andy rivalry already epic? At least as far as 2012 goes... AO semi, Olympics semi, US final and Shanghai final, all epic matches.

Yes you're right about them being epic. And here are the highlights from theShanghai Final http://thetennistimes.com/novak-djokovic-vs-andy-murray-atp-shanghai-rolex-masters-2012-final-highlights/
I hope Lendl and Andy study them - and Andy sees how important it is for him to be proactive moving into the court, developing angles and his net game;and not let Djoko move up the court and seize the initiative. :thumbup:

[Caro]

I agree with david.