Kyle Edmund

[harriet]

gosh, seppi gets a second ace in this set - kyle needs to serve it out now at 5-4

[roytennisfan]

Cmon Kyle, some good first serves to win this game and match

[roytennisfan]

3mp

[roytennisfan]

Well done Kyle SEMI FINALIST

[Jane]

:yahoo:Great win for Kyle - well done:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[harriet]

6-3, 6-4, 68mins

[roytennisfan]

The extra 45 points takes Kyle to #40 in the live rankings and #38 in the race. A few more wins and a seeding in Aus Open is a definite possibility.

[lovetennis]

Well done Kyle :bravo: Thanks everyone for the score updates

[Alis]

Well done, Kyle :dance::dance::dance: onwards and upwards!

[themass15]

Fantastic!!!

[exislander]

Another fantastic win for Kyle. He is playing with so much confidence and no fear!

[goldfish]

Amazing time for Kyle. Confidence must be sky high. Great job coach Ryan.

[Alis]

http://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-ranking-under-25

Looking good for Kyle in the under 25 rankings. He's presently ranked number 7 but number 3 in the 21 and under group - behind only Kyrgios and Zverev.

[RosieBear]

Another super duper win for Kyle! :yahoo::yahoo: With Andy chasing the no 1 spot and Kyle motoring up the rankings, well, we've never had it so good :thumbup:

[Alis]

............... and don't forget Jo - in the year end WTA top 10.

[patlowe]

A very clean, clinical, business-like performance from Kyle this evening. Well played Kyle. Looking forward to tomorrow as he plays his first ATP semi final. (It is his first SF isn't it?). :dance:

[roytennisfan]

Kyle is on after Dom&Sa's semi, not before 1pm v Gasquet

[roytennisfan]

Kyle has been given entry direct into the Vienna main draw, he was #1 alternative but as only 3 of 4 wc's used, he goes in

[themass15]

Thoroughly deserved.

[Jan]

Brilliant news to come home to!
Very well done Kyle!

[JAMES4578]

Proving to be great tournament for Kyle, can hopefully go well against Gasquet.

[anor]

So pleased to see Kyle's result last night. I had forgotten that he had played Richard before at this year's US Open and beaten him in straights, so a repeat today would be good, Kyle! ;) GL.

[Bardot]

They meet again, Kyle has drawn Ferrer in the first round of Vienna.

[roytennisfan]

Yes not the best of draws and Ferrer has time to prepare whilst Kyle is still in Antwerp

[Stell]

Players warming up.

[Jane]

Best of luck. Kyle:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Jan]

Good luck Kyle!

[roytennisfan]

Cmon Kyle, get the serves in

[roytennisfan]

Holds 1-0

[roytennisfan]

Had a chance at 0-30 but some loose shots and the chance went 1-1

[lovetennis]

C'mon Kyle, first chance I've had to watch this week so really want to see him win

[roytennisfan]

0-30 cmon Kyle break

[lovetennis]

3 BPs come onnnnn

[roytennisfan]

3bp yes breaks 4-2

[lovetennis]

Yessss good game to get the break 4-2

[roytennisfan]

5-2 great shots

[lovetennis]

That forehand motoring along nicely 5-2

[dewster99]

anyone got a stream

[cazza99]

its on bet365

[roytennisfan]

Cmon Kyle, win this game

[roytennisfan]

30-30 cmon

[lovetennis]

Set point, c'mon Kyle

[roytennisfan]

sp...deuce

[roytennisfan]

Ace!

[roytennisfan]

6-3

[Jane]

First set to Kyle - great stuff:boogie::boogie:

[cazza99]

This is the link I have. Does anyone know how to make the bet365 screen go bigger or open another window? http://www.bet365.com/home/FlashGen4/WebConsoleApp.asp?cb=105812152344918251

[roytennisfan]

Some great shots in that set Kyle, well done, keep it up

[lovetennis]

First set in the bag, go Kyle

[roytennisfan]

This is the link I have. Does anyone know how to make the bet365 screen go bigger or open another window? http://www.bet365.com/home/FlashGen4/WebConsoleApp.asp?cb=105812152344918251


I send it to my large tv using roku stick

[exislander]

I am watching on tennis tv.
Kyle continuing to play well!

[roytennisfan]

Yes keep it going Kyle

[lovetennis]

Couldn't ask for a better start to the 2nd set. Keep it going Kyle

[Jane]

http://www.usagoals.me/tennis-atp/1741814/1/gasquet-edmund-atp-antwerp-live-stream-online.html

[Stell]

I'm already looking forward to the final and, hopefully, Kyle lifting the trophy.

[roytennisfan]

I'm already looking forward to the final and, hopefully, Kyle lifting the trophy.

2-1 it's not won yet, keep going Kyle

[lovetennis]

Gasquet looking a bit more settled now. Kyle just needs to keep serving well and not let Gasquet in

[roytennisfan]

Cmon Kyle big point hold

[roytennisfan]

saved deuce

[roytennisfan]

Held 3-1

[roytennisfan]

Gasquet looking a bit more settled now. Kyle just needs to keep serving well and not let Gasquet in

Certainly tougher game, a double break would help

[Jan]

Ooh so far so good - had to go out but I'm here now!

[roytennisfan]

Kyle 48%, needs to get more serves in, cmon Kyle good first serves

[lovetennis]

Good hold from Gasquet but so far Kyle not blinking. Keep it up Kyle

[roytennisfan]

Can't get one in, 15-30 cmon Kyle

[roytennisfan]

Holds 4-2

[harriet]

kyle's second serve working well . . . . so far!

[roytennisfan]

Gasquet playing much better now 15-40 cmon Kyle big game

[roytennisfan]

4-4

[lovetennis]

Yikes, Gasquet looking dangerous

[roytennisfan]

0-30 cmon kyle

[Alis]

Rats! Kyle will just have to break again - c'mon!

[harriet]

oh dear, what happened there?

[roytennisfan]

2bp

[lovetennis]

C'monnnnn

[roytennisfan]

Both well saved by Gasquet 4-5

[roytennisfan]

Cmon Kyle not hitting as many winners now

[harriet]

well,long battle before Gaskey holds serve, kyle now at 4-5

[roytennisfan]

Much better, serves in, winners love hold

[roytennisfan]

Missed a volley great chance now 40-30

[roytennisfan]

5-6 Kyle needs to hold and win tb.

[roytennisfan]

0-30

[harriet]

need to hold for a tb7

[roytennisfan]

df 3sp

[dewster99]

poor game

[lovetennis]

Nooooooo, All level

[Alis]

A pity but he can regroup and come back.

[roytennisfan]

5-7 big ask for Kyle now, Gasquet picked up throughout that set, the momentum is really with him

[harriet]

oops, df give gasket set point, which he takes, and will serve first in set3

[Jane]

Oh dear - one set all!! Come on Kyle!!

[Jan]

:sad:
Come on Kyle!

[roytennisfan]

Good hold1-1

[harriet]

aces and dfs, kyle lurching madly, but holds for 1-1

[roytennisfan]

better 30-30

[roytennisfan]

1-2 cmon Kyle

[roytennisfan]

Massive game 1-3 Gasquet on top now, saved 3bp from 0-40 and 4th with an Ace, then 5th 6th 7th and 8th but not 9th

[harriet]

alas, kyle lost a long game, was 0-40, came back to deuce, had one A himself, but eventually dropped serve, gasket at 3-1

[roytennisfan]

Kyle fought but he has dropped levels, not hitting anywhere near hard enough to trouble Gasquet now, can't see any way back, unfortunately he will have to put this one down as a learning curve

[roytennisfan]

Love hold 1-4

[harriet]

easy game for Gasket, kyle at 1-4

[harriet]

i have to go now, swimming, keep up the good work roytennis fan

[Alis]

2-4 - only one break of serve - he could still get back into it.

[roytennisfan]

2mp

[roytennisfan]

3-6 7-5 6-2 good performance for first half of match but towards the end Kyle was not hitting as cleanly and was getting picked off by an improving Gasquet

[Jane]

Such a pity Kyle lost:crying::crying:

[Alis]

Not to be for Kyle today but still a very good week for him. Hopefully he can keep the momentum going in Vienna.

[exislander]

Richard just too much experience but still a great week for Kyle.

[Jan]

What a shame - but another very good week for Kyle.

[JAMES4578]

Pity Kyle couldn't quite keep it going but Gasquet far more experienced at the business end of tournaments, still a great week!

[lovetennis]

what a shame but a good week for Kyle

[supergran]

Bad luck but what a good week for Kyle. Onwards and upwards!!:GBflag::thumbup:

[patmoren]

Another good week for Kyle. The more experience he gets at this level the stronger he will become.

[TizMurray]

Is anyone really surprised? I've seen nothing from Kyle to rate him for the future. Good serve and a ferocious forehand. Movement OK - better over the baseline than forward/backward atm. Lacks tennis acumen and rarely seems to have a plan B. Yeah I know he's young. But Andy was British no 1 and in the World top 10 by the age of 20. And that is nowhere near as impressive as Nadal or Federer at that age. Nor many other players for that matter. I don't cheer Andy on 'cos he's British - I support him 'cos he's an amazing player. Likewise, I'm not going to cheer Kyle on just because he happens to have been raised on roughly the same bit of dirt as me. My pick for the future is Zverev and has been for a couple of years now. Frances Tiafoe looks promising too.

[RosieBear]

Is anyone really surprised? I've seen nothing from Kyle to rate him for the future. Good serve and a ferocious forehand. Movement OK - better over the baseline than forward/backward atm. Lacks tennis acumen and rarely seems to have a plan B. Yeah I know he's young. But Andy was British no 1 and in the World top 10 by the age of 20. And that is nowhere near as impressive as Nadal or Federer at that age. Nor many other players for that matter. I don't cheer Andy on 'cos he's British - I support him 'cos he's an amazing player. Likewise, I'm not going to cheer Kyle on just because he happens to have been raised on roughly the same bit of dirt as me. My pick for the future is Zverev and has been for a couple of years now. Frances Tiafoe looks promising too.

Kind of harsh seeing as Kyle won their last encounter by putting in an excellent performance at the USO. And can't compare Kyle with Andy at the same age - everyone knows that players are developing later these days. No need to compare them at all anyway; Andy's Andy and Kyle's Kyle. Finally, I doubt anyone supports Kyle purely 'cos he was raised on the same bit of dirt' - think most people think he's a really nice lad with a lot of potential which is just as valid as choosing to support someone because they're 'amazing' (and therefore likely to win).

[Josephine]

People on here supporting Kyle are surely mainly doing it because he is British. Be honest.

Personally, I think he has an uninteresting personality - on and off court, so I'm not too bothered really. The funny thing, despite the public view, Andy was NEVER boring.

[themass15]

Kyle came over really well on Sportsweek with Gary Richardson this morning. Sounded really mature and not at all boring. He may not do as well as Andy but I am sure he still has a long way to go.

[Bardot]

An example (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvZehFBWgAETvCw.jpg) of the abuse Kyle (and all players) receive on a regular basis on social media. This on facebook after his defeat yesterday. There doesn't seem to be a solution other than to stop using social media. :grrr: Warning, strong language.

[RosieBear]

People on here supporting Kyle are surely mainly doing it because he is British. Be honest.

Personally, I think he has an uninteresting personality - on and off court, so I'm not too bothered really. The funny thing, despite the public view, Andy was NEVER boring.

Yes Kyle, like Andy, first came to people's attention because he is British, but people choose to offer continued support because he's a nice lad who we want to see fulfil his potential. Being British certainly wouldn't be enough for me, or most others, if he was unlikable. (Just like I can't bring myself to support the unbearable English football team just because they're English).

And no, Andy was never boring, but the reason the vast majority of his fans in this country *first* took an interest in him was because he was an up and coming British player. Of course they then fell in love with him for the lovely individual he is, but the initial interest came about because he was a home grown player.

[banskogirl]

Yes Kyle, like Andy, first came to people's attention because he is British, but people choose to offer continued support because he's a nice lad who we want to see fulfil his potential. Being British certainly wouldn't be enough for me, or most others, if he was unlikable. (Just like I can't bring myself to support the unbearable English football team just because they're English).

And no, Andy was never boring, but the reason the vast majority of his fans in this country *first* took an interest in him was because he was an up and coming British player. Of course they then fell in love with him for the lovely individual he is, but the initial interest came about because he was a home grown player.

Also I think as an Andy supporter I think we should follow his example and support the other British players. We may not feel about them the way we do about Andy, but unless they do something to lose it I think the least we can do is not sound like the rest of the British public and expect a win every time. He's a nice lad and the only one we have in the offing right now, for when Andy hangs up his kit!

[Alis]

An example (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CvZehFBWgAETvCw.jpg) of the abuse Kyle (and all players) receive on a regular basis on social media. This on facebook after his defeat yesterday. There doesn't seem to be a solution other than to stop using social media. :grrr: Warning, strong language.

Awful - how do they get away with this?

[JAMES4578]

It's fine to have different opinions on players, however I can't see that Kyle in boring in any way though in terms of playing style don't find him as exciting as Andy and a few other players. However he definitely has potential is good for the game l and think I would be following him whether he was British or not, though I will admit in not quite the same way. However in any case it's good that Britain has another class player though I doubt he will come close to emulating Andy , however sometimes there can be surprises and so called 2nd tier players can also give you a lot of enjoyment. I couldn't imagine not caring at all about British players even if not at the highest level unless they had quite a few negative traits. Anyone is free to dislike players but the abuse some receive on social media is absolutely appalling.

[pabbers]

I watch tennis for the enjoyment of the game and so for me the most important thing is to be captivated by someone's play, regardless of nationality or "niceness". I didn't support Henman who seemed to be terribly "nice" because he and his tennis bored me to death. On the other hand I do have a penchant for a "bad lad" hence I loved/love both the style of play and personality of McEnroe and Kyrgios. Each to their own and no obligations. Andy is a player so doubtless feels an affinity/duty towards upcoming British youngsters. I'm a fan of tennis in general so feel no such affinity or duty.

[supergran]

Like pabbers I have always watched tennis because I love the game and over the years have had my favourites, usually those who combined excellent tennis skills with personality. I was never a great fan of Henman though always supported him because I support British players. My favourites were, among others, Nastase, McEnroe, Agassi and then along came Andy. Because I saw in him a future top ten player with his indomitable will to win which was nearly always coupled with his chunnering self-criticism I just loved him. Kyle is not Andy as RosieBear says but he has potential and the will to improve and be the best he can which, hopefully will get him into the top 20 and then top 10. I support him because he is British just as I support James Ward when he plays. Kyle is a lovely young man, rather shy but has a very pleasant personality. He has been called boring and criticised for being reserved on twitter which I find very strange. I hope he confounds his critics with good results in the future. I still like the "bad boys" of tennis e.g. Kyrgios and support and like many players who aren't British because I just love tennis. I just feel a loyalty towards our home players because if we don't give them our wholehearted support at the beginning of their careers who will? Everyone is entitled to support who they want but being British I will always fly the flag for our British players and hope they will work hard, follow Andy's example and do well in this sport we all love. So Go Kyle and let's Back the Brits!:GBflag::GBflag:

[RosieBear]

Absolutely Back the Brits! :GBflag: Personally, I would find it very hard to go along to Davis Cup, cheer like crazy *for them all* but then be indifferent to their individual fortunes throughout the rest of year. I can't be that clinical. Go Kyle (and Andy, Jamie, Evo, Wardy and Dom)! :GBflag:

[anor]

Like pabbers I have always watched tennis because I love the game and over the years have had my favourites, usually those who combined excellent tennis skills with personality. I was never a great fan of Henman though always supported him because I support British players. My favourites were, among others, Nastase, McEnroe, Agassi and then along came Andy. Because I saw in him a future top ten player with his indomitable will to win which was nearly always coupled with his chunnering self-criticism I just loved him. Kyle is not Andy as RosieBear says but he has potential and the will to improve and be the best he can which, hopefully will get him into the top 20 and then top 10. I support him because he is British just as I support James Ward when he plays. Kyle is a lovely young man, rather shy but has a very pleasant personality. He has been called boring and criticised for being reserved on twitter which I find very strange. I hope he confounds his critics with good results in the future. I still like the "bad boys" of tennis e.g. Kyrgios and support and like many players who aren't British because I just love tennis. I just feel a loyalty towards our home players because if we don't give them our wholehearted support at the beginning of their careers who will? Everyone is entitled to support who they want but being British I will always fly the flag for our British players and hope they will work hard, follow Andy's example and do well in this sport we all love. So Go Kyle and let's Back the Brits!:GBflag::GBflag:

Absolutely go along with you, Maureen. I'm shocked at the content of that tweet to Kyle and it reinforces my decision to have nothing to do with social media sites, with the honourable exception of this forum which is not only a channel for expressing our support for Andy and the rest of the GB players but also in my view a great support medium for us members. I hope Kyle manages to ignore such vile comments because responding to them will only encourage further abuse.

[Hawkeye]

Twitter is chock full of morons, which is why I don't use it.

However, as soon as a moron vacancy comes up...

[Josephine]

Well it's nothing to the abuse that Andy got from British people due to the lies told about him in the press. To his face, letters in his locker etc.

And that was widespread, in all the papers and common knowledge - not just some one-off idiot on the internet who lost money betting.

That's the reason I got so passionate about Andy (as well as the tennis). He did nothing to deserve that and it obviously affected him deeply.

Thank goodness 2 times SPOTY winner doesn't need to think back to that.

[Reef]

I like Kyle, and like his game too. Very different to Andy, but let's celebrate the difference. I think he could go further than many imagine.

[pabbers]

Absolutely Back the Brits! :GBflag: Personally, I would find it very hard to go along to Davis Cup, cheer like crazy *for them all* but then be indifferent to their individual fortunes throughout the rest of year. I can't be that clinical. Go Kyle (and Andy, Jamie, Evo, Wardy and Dom)! :GBflag:
Clinical? So what about a team sport like football or rugby then, where there's a national side made up of players from lots of different individual teams? Presumably English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh fans go back to supporting their favourite team and players outside of international matches? And that's what DC is.......an international match where I support my TEAM......GB......rather than a particular player. Afterwards I go back to watching and supporting my favourite individuals regardless of nationality.

[Caro]

I do support players because they're British but I still have my favourites amongst them. I also have other non British favourites.

As many of you know Gill and I went to DC for a while with the Greg Rusedski fan club (as we had a friend who was a member and got us tickets). The rivalry between them and Tim's supporters was hilarious. Greg's lot did shout for all the players on court but off it, they all seemed to dislike Tim. I always found it very strange .... and even stranger was when Greg retired, they all stopped going to DC. I have barely seen one of them since Greg's last tie in Birmingham!

[RosieBear]

I do support players because they're British but I still have my favourites amongst them. I also have other non British favourites.

This is exactly how I feel, Caro. I definitely back our boys, but admiration and support aren't finite things whereby if you support the Brits, there's nothing left over for others. Plenty left over to love the likes of Goffin, Monf, Domi, Stan, JWT, Gillou etc irrespective of nationality!

[RosieBear]

Clinical? So what about a team sport like football or rugby then, where there's a national side made up of players from lots of different individual teams? Presumably English/Scottish/Irish/Welsh fans go back to supporting their favourite team and players outside of international matches? And that's what DC is.......an international match where I support my TEAM......GB......rather than a particular player. Afterwards I go back to watching and supporting my favourite individuals regardless of nationality.

Football and rugby are pretty different to tennis, Mrs P, insofar as those fans tend to only support one team. Each to their own views of course, but giving British players a bit of support throughout the year is no barrier to supporting other players as well irrespective of nationality.

[angiebabez]

I do support players because they're British but I still have my favourites amongst them. I also have other non British favourites.

As many of you know Gill and I went to DC for a while with the Greg Rusedski fan club (as we had a friend who was a member and got us tickets). The rivalry between them and Tim's supporters was hilarious. Greg's lot did shout for all the players on court but off it, they all seemed to dislike Tim. I always found it very strange .... and even stranger was when Greg retired, they all stopped going to DC. I have barely seen one of them since Greg's last tie in Birmingham!

Weirdos :laugh:

[themass15]

I was a supporter of both Greg and Tim and used to belong to Greg's supporter club. But as you say it soon disappeared after Greg retired.

[supergran]

I was a supporter of both Greg and Tim and used to belong to Greg's supporter club. But as you say it soon disappeared after Greg retired.
Oh dear, now I'm worried.I hope this forum doesn't disappear when our Andy retires. I will be lost without it.

[patlowe]

Absolutely go along with you, Maureen. I'm shocked at the content of that tweet to Kyle and it reinforces my decision to have nothing to do with social media sites, with the honourable exception of this forum which is not only a channel for expressing our support for Andy and the rest of the GB players but also in my view a great support medium for us members. I hope Kyle manages to ignore such vile comments because responding to them will only encourage further abuse.
Totally agree anor. Those who post such vile tweets are definitely the ones with the problem. My only concern is that Kyle responded at all. As you say, let's hope he manages to ignore them (if there are any more).

[patlowe]

Like pabbers I have always watched tennis because I love the game and over the years have had my favourites, usually those who combined excellent tennis skills with personality. I was never a great fan of Henman though always supported him because I support British players. My favourites were, among others, Nastase, McEnroe, Agassi and then along came Andy. Because I saw in him a future top ten player with his indomitable will to win which was nearly always coupled with his chunnering self-criticism I just loved him. Kyle is not Andy as RosieBear says but he has potential and the will to improve and be the best he can which, hopefully will get him into the top 20 and then top 10. I support him because he is British just as I support James Ward when he plays. Kyle is a lovely young man, rather shy
but has a very pleasant personality. He has been called boring and criticised for being reserved on twitter which I find very strange. I hope he confounds his critics with good results in the future. I still like the "bad boys" of tennis e.g. Kyrgios and support and like many players who aren't British because I just love tennis. I just feel a loyalty towards our home players because if we don't give them our wholehearted support at the beginning of their careers who will? Everyone is entitled to support who they want but being British I will always fly the flag for our British players and hope they will work hard, follow Andy's example and do well in this sport we all love. So Go Kyle and let's Back the
Brits!:GBflag::GBflag:
Well said Maureen. Absolutely love it. I too was a fervent supporter of Nastase. When he lost the Wimbledon final to Stan Smith, I cried for days!! Couldn't accept it for ages! Since then, Andy is the only other player I have supported with such passion, but that doesn't mean I have not supported and loved many others...I have. Adriano Panatta springs to mind. But Andy is so special and I think a lot of that has to do with him being a 'home grown' player. We so rarely have one of our own right up there, and in a very special era with so many other excellent players, and he deserves every ounce of support we can give him plus loads more. And I intend to enjoy every ounce (plus loads more) of pleasure he will bring us for as long as it lasts. I will of course continue to support Dan, Kyle et al because they deserve our support and they have worked hard and done their best to get to where they are. But maybe they have a wee way to go to be like our 'special one'?

[MurrayAOne]

Like pabbers I have always watched tennis because I love the game and over the years have had my favourites, usually those who combined excellent tennis skills with personality. I was never a great fan of Henman though always supported him because I support British players. My favourites were, among others, Nastase, McEnroe, Agassi and then along came Andy. Because I saw in him a future top ten player with his indomitable will to win which was nearly always coupled with his chunnering self-criticism I just loved him. Kyle is not Andy as RosieBear says but he has potential and the will to improve and be the best he can which, hopefully will get him into the top 20 and then top 10. I support him because he is British just as I support James Ward when he plays. Kyle is a lovely young man, rather shy but has a very pleasant personality. He has been called boring and criticised for being reserved on twitter which I find very strange. I hope he confounds his critics with good results in the future. I still like the "bad boys" of tennis e.g. Kyrgios and support and like many players who aren't British because I just love tennis. I just feel a loyalty towards our home players because if we don't give them our wholehearted support at the beginning of their careers who will? Everyone is entitled to support who they want but being British I will always fly the flag for our British players and hope they will work hard, follow Andy's example and do well in this sport we all love. So Go Kyle and let's Back the Brits!:GBflag::GBflag:

Spot on Mo! ☺

[TizMurray]

Kind of harsh seeing as Kyle won their last encounter by putting in an excellent performance at the USO. And can't compare Kyle with Andy at the same age - everyone knows that players are developing later these days. No need to compare them at all anyway; Andy's Andy and Kyle's Kyle. Finally, I doubt anyone supports Kyle purely 'cos he was raised on the same bit of dirt' - think most people think he's a really nice lad with a lot of potential which is just as valid as choosing to support someone because they're 'amazing' (and therefore likely to win).

Kyle won their previous encounter because Gasquet was below form - as he has been most of this year. I don't think my opinion regarding Kyle is overly harsh. Who cares anyway - it's merely my opinion. Sorry but I can't be bothered with 'everyone knows' as it's a way of asserting something without proof. In my opinion people are supporting Kyle because he was born on the 'same bit of dirt'. It seems you don't like that phrase. I don't do 'nationalism'. I don't give a stuff about where someone was born or raised.

As to thinking Andy is amazing and therefore supporting him 'cos he's likely to win - no. I think Federer, Djokovic and Nadal are all amazing too. I support one of them [Nadal]. The other two I dislike. But they are all amazing.

For me, the passion is tennis. In a way, it doesn't matter at what level. And it certainly doesn't matter what country someone comes from. Who takes my breath away, who excites me, who makes me cheer out loud? Kyle doesn't. At the moment he is a very one dimensional player. I wish him well though and would be delighted to see him develop into a better player,

[RosieBear]

Kyle won their previous encounter because Gasquet was below form - as he has been most of this year. I don't think my opinion regarding Kyle is overly harsh. Who cares anyway - it's merely my opinion. Sorry but I can't be bothered with 'everyone knows' as it's a way of asserting something without proof. In my opinion people are supporting Kyle because he was born on the 'same bit of dirt'. It seems you don't like that phrase. I don't do 'nationalism'. I don't give a stuff about where someone was born or raised.

As to thinking Andy is amazing and therefore supporting him 'cos he's likely to win - no. I think Federer, Djokovic and Nadal are all amazing too. I support one of them [Nadal]. The other two I dislike. But they are all amazing.

For me, the passion is tennis. In a way, it doesn't matter at what level. And it certainly doesn't matter what country someone comes from. Who takes my breath away, who excites me, who makes me cheer out loud? Kyle doesn't. At the moment he is a very one dimensional player. I wish him well though and would be delighted to see him develop into a better player,

You're quite right, should not have said 'everyone knows'. Should have said 'it's extremely widely accepted that...'And it is.

And nope, what I took (and take) exception to is the mindlessness you attribute to people who choose to support Kyle.

I doubt anyone really cares enough about who you support to be critical about it, maybe you should take the same approach.

[Teresa]

I got into tennis, (as a person whose interest in any form of sport up to that point was zero), I was watching Queens in 2011 for lack of anything better to do, and saw Andy Murray giving Roddick a rather brutal mauling. I think I was completely shocked at the sight of a British tennis player being so in your face. I watched him a couple more times, and then wanted to know more about him. That led me to Murray's World (the less said about that the better), and so to here. I support all of The British players, some I like more than others ie Mr M and James Ward. As time passes other players like Baghdatis, Tsonga, Anderson and Nick K have wormed their way into my affections.

I should have more interest in Kyle - a friend of mine is the mother of his first coach, but he hasn't yet triggered the same level of affection in me as Mr M. Will he ever - I don't really know? I think when Mr M retires I will still follow and have an interest in tennis, but I doubt it will be to the same level.

[exislander]

Kyle on the board at 1-2 having lost his first service game.
Kyle retired at 2-3 with hip injury.

[anor]

Oh dear, hope it's only a precaution.

[Caro]

I was a supporter of both Greg and Tim and used to belong to Greg's supporter club. But as you say it soon disappeared after Greg retired.

The support at DC disappeared but the club certainly hasn't! They still distribute news letters to which Greg contributes and follow his 'career' / go to legends events etc.


Oh dear, now I'm worried.I hope this forum doesn't disappear when our Andy retires. I will be lost without it.

.... I hope we will do the same and keep this forum going. Many of us have made such good friends through it :)

[Caro]

Kyle won their previous encounter because Gasquet was below form - as he has been most of this year. I don't think my opinion regarding Kyle is overly harsh. Who cares anyway - it's merely my opinion. Sorry but I can't be bothered with 'everyone knows' as it's a way of asserting something without proof. In my opinion people are supporting Kyle because he was born on the 'same bit of dirt'. It seems you don't like that phrase. I don't do 'nationalism'. I don't give a stuff about where someone was born or raised.

For me, the passion is tennis. In a way, it doesn't matter at what level. And it certainly doesn't matter what country someone comes from. Who takes my breath away, who excites me, who makes me cheer out loud? Kyle doesn't. At the moment he is a very one dimensional player. I wish him well though and would be delighted to see him develop into a better player,

I take it you don't like Davis Cup then? Or the Olympics?

[JAMES4578]

Real pity for Kyle but hopefully not too serious. Would've been interesting to see if Kyle could challenge Ferrer again,though a 2nd consecutive win was probably unlikely.

[Josephine]

I take it you don't like Davis Cup then? Or the Olympics?

Surely the point is you don't need to actively support someone just because they are from GB. What came out was that most people were primarily supporting him for that reason. That is all great.

But people can also choose not to. Personally I think Kyle has a lot of potential, seems nice, so far not been particularly full of character. I don't mind one way or another if he wins or loses.

I'm sure one day once Andy is retired and Kyle is in a big match, I will be supporting him for that match at least.

[WimbledonWestie]

Always been a huge tennis fan, have had a range of favourites from overseas (well, for a longtime that was my only option) but always enjoyed the plucky Brit moments during the grass court season. Loved supporting Henman and rusedski- though I recall being unable to support Henman when he played Edberg , but that was my only exception. Andy is absolutely my all time number one but I love watching other players too and I'm sure that will continue . I also enjoy encouraging and backing all the other Brits and while I may not be quite so emotionally engaged with them as I am Andy I will always be 100% behind them along with any other player from wherever whose play I enjoy. As folk have said I couldnt imagine roaring on the gb boys at DC then ignoring them the rest of year. And while DC with the murrays is wonderful, it's still pretty special without them too so I'll still be there 'clapping my Pom poms' as my class described it.

Oh, and I too hope this forum continues after our lads have hung up their rackets!

[TizMurray]

I take it you don't like Davis Cup then? Or the Olympics?

I'm a typical human - contradictory. Davis cup, I've watched and cheered Andy on because it was Andy. Olympics I love but not to necessarily support Brits. I enjoy the Olympics because of the endeavourers of all participants. With regards tennis which is my passion, the final between Andy and Del Potro was awesome. It was not the 'finest tennis ever' imo but it was an incredible match. Beyond that, I'm not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that I don't support players merely because they are British? If so, no argument. Or are you suggesting that because I don't support sportsmen/women on the basis of the bit of planet they were born/raised on, that somehow my support is tainted, or doesn't count?

[themass15]

It will be a very sad day when Andy hangs up his racket. I cannot imagine being that passionate about anyone else but time will tell. In the days of Henman/Rusedski I never thought I would be more passionate about anyone else. How things change! But good luck to Kyle for the future.

[Stell]

I was hoping Kyle would do very well, this week. I hope the injury isn't too serious.

I, also, was in the Greg supporters club, themass15. I still get the occasional email from them.

[Caro]

I'm a typical human - contradictory. Davis cup, I've watched and cheered Andy on because it was Andy. Olympics I love but not to necessarily support Brits. I enjoy the Olympics because of the endeavourers of all participants. With regards tennis which is my passion, the final between Andy and Del Potro was awesome. It was not the 'finest tennis ever' imo but it was an incredible match. Beyond that, I'm not sure what your point is. Are you trying to say that I don't support players merely because they are British? If so, no argument. Or are you suggesting that because I don't support sportsmen/women on the basis of the bit of planet they were born/raised on, that somehow my support is tainted, or doesn't count?

I'm not 'trying' to say either of those things. You said you don't 'do' nationalism ... The whole focus of the Olympics and Davis Cup is winning for your country so I just wondered whether those events just don't appeal to you.

[supergran]

I simply find it very strange that someone or anyone doesn't really support their own sportsmen and women. You say you support Andy but if there was no Andy in the mix then I gather your loyalty in Davis Cup and Olympics would not be Britain first. As humans, as a member of a nation, as part of a region, town etc most people support players they identify with, those that come from their own 'bit of earth". To me that's normal as they are part of a group, a family even. It's not sentimental as such but simply loyalty to your own. To be able to identify and support such sportsmen and women and teams gives not only a sense of loyalty but surely brings excitement and other high emotions connected with cheering on those who represent your town, country and nation. We wave n national flags to show support and the players see them and appreciate what they stand for. Recognising that people can support who they like I still am of the mind that not supporting our own sports people is very odd. But as they say in this neck of the woods "There's nowt so queer as folk".:big grin::GBflag:

[Josephine]

You can't support everyone just because they are from the UK. Personally I can't stand Bradley Wiggins and that is from long before the revelations of the timing of these TUEs. He was scathing about tennis for one thing.

So if I like someone and their story I will support them more. Honestly by the end of the Olympics I was getting a bit fed up of the BBC going on endlessly about Team GB - hardly any other competitors got a mention. And nationalism isn't always such a lovely thing.

[RosieBear]

You can't support everyone just because they are from the UK. Personally I can't stand Bradley Wiggins and that is from long before the revelations of the timing of these TUEs. He was scathing about tennis for one thing.

So if I like someone and their story I will support them more. Honestly by the end of the Olympics I was getting a bit fed up of the BBC going on endlessly about Team GB - hardly any other competitors got a mention. And nationalism isn't always such a lovely thing.

Sorry but I really resent the word 'nationalism' being used in this discussion (I know you didn't use it first, Josephine). One only has to watch an American at the USO, an Aussie on RL or French player on PC to know that crowds are very partisan even when players are not representing their countries. Crowds are partisan not "nationalistic". There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and a beauty of tennis is that crowds are so respectful and safe even in the most passionate matches. That's something the sport can be extremely proud of. EQUALLY, if people don't want to support home players that is absolutely fine too. But this discussion wasn't started by anybody saying Kyle *should* be supported because he is British, it was started by Tiz Murray suggesting that he *shouldn't* really be considered worthy of support and adopting a very scathing attitude towards his supporters as nigh on ready for BNP membership. Sorry, but I find that extremely offensive. Andy has opened his training camp only to Kyle and Wardy as his friends and *compatriots*, and Leon is tasked with progressing *British* tennis, so I wonder if they should come if for scathing comments too???

Anyway, I've said my piece on the matter.

[-J-]

weird that we have been brainwashed in this "country" to view nationalism as a bad thing

[Alis]

It very much depends on what you mean by 'nationalism' and whether it is the same as 'patriotism' but that discussion will take us into a very political arena so I'll go no further.

[Alis]

You can't support everyone just because they are from the UK. Personally I can't stand Bradley Wiggins and that is from long before the revelations of the timing of these TUEs. He was scathing about tennis for one thing.

So if I like someone and their story I will support them more. Honestly by the end of the Olympics I was getting a bit fed up of the BBC going on endlessly about Team GB - hardly any other competitors got a mention. And nationalism isn't always such a lovely thing.

I'm with you on Bradley Wiggins, Josephine - I couldn't support him even if he was my next door neighbour!

[Josephine]

Well it seems like it's not deemed 'normal' of Tiz Murray to say he doesn't support Edmund or Team GB at all moments.

I am actually quite patriotic - mainly for the Scots but certainly other Brits too. My husband (not interested in sport) has no concept of 'supporting' a team, or a country - because he simply doesn't see things in that light. But to support me he will be a little bit glad if Andy wins (or Scotland win the rugby - he is English). I honestly think it is quite admirable in some ways - he just doesn't see borders or have allegiances. And sometimes I think if the world was more like that it could be a better place.

This is not meant to be criticising anyone - as I said I get quite worked up about certain matches etc - just saying that some people can have an outlook which takes no account of having to identify with any particular group. It can give quite an original and different view of things.

[themass15]

I was hoping Kyle would do very well, this week. I hope the injury isn't too serious.

I, also, was in the Greg supporters club, themass15. I still get the occasional email from them.

Perhaps it was another supporters fan club. It was the one that Steven belonged to.

[Teresa]

I support all of the Brits regardless, but there are some who are higher in my affections than others. Ward and Evans are my favourites, after Mr M. I agree about Wiggins, and have some reservations about Farah due to his coach. There are some non British players who have crept into my affections. For example normally any player who beats Mr M is on my black list. However Del Potro has done us so many favours over the years, I will support him in the DC final (only as a one off mind you...!!!). Equally there are players I really dislike (any guesses?).

[karanga]

Great news of Kyle - well done. :bravo:

[Alis]

Great news of Kyle - well done. :bravo:

Have I missed something?

[banskogirl]

weird that we have been brainwashed in this "country" to view nationalism as a bad thing


It very much depends on what you mean by 'nationalism' and whether it is the same as 'patriotism' but that discussion will take us into a very political arena so I'll go no further.


You should try living over here! :whistle: and that is the reason my hubby gets annoyed when people tell him they've spotted Banskoboy and myself on tv waving red, white and blue! I promise you I would not be caught dead doing it over here! Patriotism and nationalism..........it's a very fine line.

[Helen40]

Kyle is out of Paris - is he still injured?

[Reef]

Kyle is out of Paris - is he still injured?

I want to know too...

[Reef]

Just checked - yes Kyle is still injured. Guess that's his season done. Never mind, good work this year, I'm sure he'll do well next year.

[Helen40]

I did see a tweet after I'd asked the question saying that he was calling it a day and ending his season early.

[roytennisfan]

Kyle is into the main draw at both Brisbane (2nd-8th) and Sydney (9th-15th) before Melbourne

[roytennisfan]

Kyle won today in Brisbane against Escobedo but made hard work of it 7-6(4) 7-6(6)

[Jan]

Good news
:clap:

[Reef]

Kyle on court against Pouille - leading 5 - 2 first set
Takes it 6 - 3.

[Teresa]

Won (by retirement) at 6:3, 3:1. Well done Pouille is ranked 15.

[Jan]

Ah good!
I saw Kyle had the first set then had to go out.

[JAMES4578]

Pity about the retirement but seems Kyle was going well!

[roytennisfan]

A good win for Kyle and some welcome extra points to replace ones he is losing from Doha QF last year

[Reef]

Yes I watched it on Bet365 and Kyle was by far the better player. It was only early in set 2 that Pouille injured his foot, and despite treatment, was unable to continue.

[Jan]

Kyle will play Stan next.

[Alis]

That will be interesting.

[Pam]

Well done for the W Kyle. Onwards and upwards!

Yes it will be interesting to see how he does against Stan.

[jaysee]

1am tomorrow - I'm afraid I won't be getting up for that!

[exislander]

I might stay up for that!

[Linda]

He's doing great, but this will probably be a match too far.

[Alis]

Who knows? It depends a lot on which Stan turns up.

[pabbers]

He's doing great, but this will probably be a match too far.

Dan gave Stan a good run for his money so in theory Kyle ought to be able to play a competitive match.

[DonaldGrump]

I am looking forward to seeing how Kyle does in this one, 1am lthat means I will stay up just to watch the first set....which means I wont just watch the first set of course and it will be a three set match that will finish about 5am GMT.

It does depend on which Stan appears, but for Kyle this really is a chance to take a really big scalp, I think this could be a big year for young Mr Edmund. A couple of appearances in the second week of the slams and some decent results in the ATP1000s too much to ask for?

[exislander]

Wow! Kyle takes first set tiebreak!

[Caley Shaun]

Totally deserved Kyle, he playing the right way, if he continues this form, he wins in 2 straight sets.

ps. The Edmund forehand is a rocket.

[exislander]

Kyle had a blister on his hand treated early in second set and I am sorry couldn't stay awake to see him lose 7-6,4-6,4-6. From what I did see he played very well and Stan was frustrated enough to bounce and later break a racket during the first set.

[Alis]

Sounds as though Kyle put in a good performance - a pity about the blister.

[Stell]

I heard he won the first set but then the real Wawrinka turned up and won the match. The trouble was, the sports presenter, on radio five live, claimed Wawrinka beat Evans. He needs to get his facts straight first.

[Jan]

Closer than many would have imagined.
Well fought Kyle!

[anor]

Certainly from the score it sounds like Kyle gave a good showing against Stanimal. Grounds for optimism in '17.

[roytennisfan]

Kyle put in a good performance, won another tiebreak easily 7-2 to take the opening set, seems to be doing well in tiebreaks, on to Sydney for Kyle, main draw is made at 2am tomorrow.

[Reef]

Watched recording this morning - in my opinion it was only experience that separated these two. Kyle matched Stan in almost every department, but Stan had the edge at vital moments. Impressive display nevertheless. I personally love watching him play...he's fearless - really goes for his shots.

[DonaldGrump]

I ended up staying up and watching. Kyle played pretty well, infact was much the better player in the first set, I do suspect that blister had some effect, but all in all he can only take alot of encouragement this match. I look forward to watching his career and hope he can continue to progress to a level where he will be getting to the sharp end of slams before to long.

[JAMES4578]

Certainly looks like it was a very good effort from Kyle ,should give him confidence.

[Reef]

I ended up staying up and watching. Kyle played pretty well, infact was much the better player in the first set, I do suspect that blister had some effect, but all in all he can only take alot of encouragement this match. I look forward to watching his career and hope he can continue to progress to a level where he will be getting to the sharp end of slams before to long.

Yes I agree re the blister, I think it halted his momentum somewhat...Nevertheless, many positives to take from the match. He certainly had Stan on the ropes many times, created a lot of break points but that was when Stan invariably stepped up his game and showed his experience.

[david1610]

I watched some of it. I think Kyle has to extend his level of consistency against the top guys to longer, and longer periods of time.

[roytennisfan]

Kyle has been drawn against a qualifier in r1 at Sydney. Hopefully he can maintain his good form and get some wins, he has real chances since there are no top20 players in the bottom half

[Jan]

If anyone wants a 16-minute tennis fest, take a look at the highlights of Kyle vs Stan posted in this thread on bt.net - brilliant!
http://britishtennis.activeboard.com/t63063374/week-1-atp-250-brisbane-australia-hard/

[roytennisfan]

Kyle is first on the main court v Barton at 1am

[Alis]

Sadly Kyle lost to Barton in two tie break sets.

[Jan]

:sad:

[anor]

Oh dear, that is a disappointing result after Kyle's close fought match with Stan a few days ago. Perhaps his hand is not fully healed yet.

[roytennisfan]

Sadly Kyle lost to Barton in two tie break sets.
And he had been winning his tiebreaks previously. Always tricky to play against an Australian in Australia but had expected him to do better

[Alis]

Just watching a recording of the match and it seems Kyle didn't do a lot wrong. Barton has a fiendish serve, he is playing in his home town and had a lot of vocal support. It was also incredibly hot.

[JAMES4578]

Maybe it was a tight match and a tricky opponent,however still disappointing for Kyle-though suppose can expect ups and downs.

[roytennisfan]

Kyle is on about 2-3 am second on court5 v Girado and he really should be a strong favourite. Let's hope he can win a couple here after that r1 loss to a qualifier in Sydney. Cmon Kyle, hit plenty of those forehand winners!

[Jan]

Good luck Kyle!
:GBflag:

[LC the fan]

Do hope he can have a run here. He needs the belief, his game is there but somehow that confidence needs boosting. He certainly needed to believe in Sydney, he really could have won that match

[greatunclebulgaria]

Good start forehand firing well

[themass15]

Good win by Kyle today although I didn't see it.

[anor]

Yes, well done Kyle. Glad to waken up to this news.

[Jane]

Well done Kyle :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[roytennisfan]

Just finished watching recording, Kyle played ok, got broken once but otherwise didn't concede any other bps and was generally on top getting breaks when needed. Next match likely to be tougher but winnable.

[Jan]

FAB news to wake up to!!
Well done Kyle :cheer::cheer:

[JAMES4578]

Certainly positive it was a fairly comfortable win for Kyle,well done!:clap::clap::clap: Will play 30th seed Carreno Busta next and hopefully a chance there, come on!

[Caro]

Just finished watching recording, Kyle played ok, got broken once but otherwise didn't concede any other bps and was generally on top getting breaks when needed. Next match likely to be tougher but winnable. OK? He played well enough to win in straight sets! I'd say that's all that matters first round of a GS ...

[patlowe]

I dipped into Kyle's match briefly when I woke up in the night. Thought he was looking comfortable and was playing well. Was delighted to see this morning that he had gone on to take the match in straights. Well done Kyle. :clap:

[Reef]

OK? He played well enough to win in straight sets! I'd say that's all that matters first round of a GS ...

Totally agree. Very well played, Kyle...

[themass15]

Good chance against Carreno Busta in the next round.

[anor]

:cauldron:

[-J-]

:cauldron:prepare another for him taking out nole :lol:

[banskogirl]

Well played Kyle!! Hopeful for the next round after how well he played the big points today :) great having so many to cheer this year

[lovetennis]

Chuffed for Kyle. Isn't it great to have multiple British players winning matches at GS events? :GBflag::GBflag:

[Alis]

Go Kyle!

[Jan]

Good luck Kyle!
:GBflag:

[roytennisfan]

Despite being ranked lower Kyle should start at least a slight favourite against Carreno Busta who struggled to win his r1 tie. Kyle had a good start in Doha and in beating Pouille he achieved his 5th victory over top 20 players in the past 7 months: Simon, Gasquet, Ferrer and Batista Agut being the others, he also beat #21 Isner in the us open. If Kyle plays at his best, he has every chance of winning. Carreno Busta also beat Simon, Gasquet and Batista Agut and also Cuevas (4 top20 wins) and won 2 ATP250 tournaments so is certainly no pushover if he hits better form than in r1. The weather is currently 16c with a maximum forecast of 24c and Sunny, much better for Kyle than the hotter weather. I'm hoping for a good match with plenty of big forehands and a Kyle win in 3 or 4, if it goes to 5 then a win is probably less likely. Cmon Kyle, make it 3 GB men in r3 of a second consecutive slam!

[roytennisfan]

Cmon Kyle 40-40

[roytennisfan]

Poor game, ues and Kyle broken 1-2

[JerryD]

I'm hoping dan and seppis wins earlier were a good sign and Kyle can come through. It's cooler than it has been so that helps :)

[roytennisfan]

1-3 not a great start cmon Kyle

[roytennisfan]

Another break 1-4 Kyle needs to get going quickly

[roytennisfan]

1-5 getting this set over quickly

[roytennisfan]

2-5 Kyle having a foot problem attended to

[JerryD]

Oh well, he can win it in 4 !

[roytennisfan]

2-6 Kyle needs to get serves in and cut out the numerous unforced errors, cmon Kyle

[roytennisfan]

Oh well, he can win it in 4 !

Just like Dan did

[JerryD]

Just like Dan did

My point exactly Roy :)

[Alis]

C'mon Kyle!

[roytennisfan]

Go Kyle bp

[roytennisfan]

1-1

[roytennisfan]

3-3 unforced errors creeping back up for Kyle

[roytennisfan]

More errors bps broken 3-4 Kyle is really down a level or two

[roytennisfan]

3-5 not looking good

[roytennisfan]

4-5 has bp but its an ace

[Alis]

Oh dear - Kyle two sets down and it's a long way back now.

[roytennisfan]

4-6 lost a second bp to another poor shot and a third one

[roytennisfan]

Oh dear - Kyle two sets down and it's a long way back now.

Don't see any way back, I don't believe he can win a fifth set, even if he wins the next two which doesn't seem that likely. He has been the opposite to Dan...well below his best