WORLD TOUR FINALS, SEMI-FINAL: Andy foiled by Federer who wins 7'6(5), 6'2

[Sallydaisy]

Andy v Roger ... for the 5th time this year.

Federer won the titles in Dubai and at Wimbledon.
Andy beat Roger to the Olympic Gold Medal and defeated him in the Semi-Final of the Shanghai Masters a few weeks ago.

Andy leads their H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=F324) 10-8.
:dance:

Can he make it 11-8 tomorrow and reach the Final of the ATP year end event in London.
I hope so!
:jitterbug::jitterbug::jitterbug:

[Sallydaisy]

So, we've got a repeat of the Olympics matches but moved East and indoors!!!

In the Olympics Andy beat Fed in the Final and Nole beat Juan to the Bronze medal.
We'll be in for some cracking matches tomorrow that's for sure .......
:p

[supergran]

So is Andy playing in the evening? Nothing on ATP site yet.

[ljs]

afternoon for me , am going to the remembrance service at the airport in the morning , hopefully I will be back in time.

[Sallydaisy]

So is Andy playing in the evening? Nothing on ATP site yet.
Yes.
We're way quicker than the ATP site ............ as are the accredited journalists on twitter.
;)


Piers Newbery ‏@piersnewbery (https://twitter.com/piersnewbery) Sunday singles schedule: Djokovic v Del Potro at 2.15pm (BBC TV/web/radio),
Murray v Federer at 7.45pm (web text/radio).

[Mandiemoo]

Hmm, suppose the beeb are showing the afternoon match so its Uncle Bill & his tiny screen for me. On the plus side, I will be uninteruppted as MiniMoo will be in bed & Mr Moo at work.

Looking forward to it (I think.... just a ickle bit nervous too!)

[ljs]

yep , im a bit nervous too , but have faith that Andy will give it his all.

[supergran]

Yes.
We're way quicker than the ATP site ............ as are the accredited journalists on twitter.
;)Thanks..stopped watching tennis to watch Festival of Remembrance. This suits me as we go to the Remembrance Service in town then for refreshments. And later we always go for lunch so I'm very happy with the schedule.

[Madeline]

Not only will I not be able to watch it on the TV because the Beeb don't show the evening semi, but if Andy does win he will be at a disadvantage against the other finalist who will have had a few hours more rest. (Of course that would also apply to Fed if he wins, but strangely I'm not too bothered about that. . .)

[xenon21]

Yeah! I managed to swap my afternoon tickets for the evening tickets so we will be able to watch Andy va Federer! Can't wait! :)

[Jan]

Yeah! I managed to swap my afternoon tickets for the evening tickets so we will be able to watch Andy va Federer! Can't wait! :)

lucky you! - enjoy it!

[Craigenhogen]

Nole beat Juan to the Bronze medal.
:p

I thought that Del Potro beat Djokovic for the bronze medal?

[Sallydaisy]

I thought that Del Potro beat Djokovic for the bronze medal?
My bad. You're right.
:shamed:

[Mandiemoo]

Xenon, You carry the good wishes of a nation (United Murraydom) into the theatre of dreams (O2 Arena)

[Craigenhogen]

It's fine, everyone makes mistakes;)

[lynne]

The Very, Very Best of Luck Andy!!!:thumbup::thumbup:

[RoastLamb]

It sure will be interesting to see how much of the crowd is supporting Andy compared to his opponent.

Have fun, Xe. I hope you bring Andy muchos luck.

[wriggles]

I suspect it will be slightly more for andy but fed will get big cheers as well because most 'occasional' tennis fans stick with what they know the 7 time wimbers champ..if only we could ship the olympic crowd in lol

[xenon21]

It sure will be interesting to see how much of the crowd is supporting Andy compared to his opponent.

Have fun, Xe. I hope you bring Andy muchos luck.

1 important factor may be how many people have managed to swap their tickets to support andy too

[LC the fan]

Those Fed fans are so very noisy - you ll have to get a chant going Xenon.
Somehow I think Andy has that same look in his eye that he had when he wanted that Olympic medal!
He wants this badly....all fingers and toes crossed for you Andy- play like the first set on Tuesday and no one can live with
You

[patmoren]

Looking forward to today a feast of tennis at the O2. Andy needs to stay focused and shouldn't have a problem especially if fed plays as he did yesterday UAs galore, almost as though he wanted to lose!! if anyone is around I usually arrive about 10am

[Jane]

Good luck, Andy


:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[Elenive]

All the best to you today Andy! Break the hearts of the federer fan club.

[JAMES4578]

All the best to you today Andy! Break the hearts of the federer fan club.

Indeed sure Andy will be fired up and won't let the Fed fans deter him in any way,he should have quite a few shouting for him too! obviously a few battles between these two throughout the years and a few disappointments but Andy has certainly got the better of Roger in the last few matches and hopefully the trend continues! Looking at their last matches Andy should come in with more confidence but it's all down to the form on the day and we know Andy can't take anything for granted. Take it to him Muzzah!

[Hvala]

Andy has to lead 11-8 now, come on!!! ;)

[lynne]

Pic from Andy's FB page.
...Check out my kit for later, proud to be involved...


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[supergran]

Just like to say: Let's go Andy, let's go

[david1610]

Good luck Andy!

[ljs]

anyone nervous ?? surprising , Im actually calm , hope thats a good sign !!!!! cmon Andy !!!

[Jan]

Nearly time! Come on Andy!

[supergran]

Let's go Andy, let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ljs]

wearing the black shirt yayyyyyyyy

[Sallydaisy]

Andy LOVES a night match ..........
:p

[-J-]

didnt know they had moved this tournament to Geneva

[ljs]

no kidding eh J :grrr:

[-J-]

i thought things had changed after the Olympics but obviously was a temporary trues

[Bardot]

The O2 whipping the crowd into a frenzy :grrr:


Jonathan Overend ‏@5livetennis
Another curious big screen decision... a Federer tribute sequence with all 17 GS wins. Nice film. Jut interesting timing

[ljs]

well lets hope they get really crazy for him once this starts !!!!

[supergran]

I'm tense but the wine will help. Supergramps has retired so just son, daughter-in-law and grandaughter have to put with me.:sofa::coaster::clap:

[-J-]

lets take it to him andy
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[davech]

All the Sky commentators reckon Andy will win this - even Croft. Interesting...

[jaysee]

Ok, I'm putting the match up to full screen so (as usual) I won't be posting much if at all, but:

Go for it, Andy!!

[pippadaisy]

Good luck Andy :swingin::swingin:

[-J-]

early little glimmer
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[davech]

Early break point!

[pippadaisy]

All the Sky commentators reckon Andy will win this - even Croft. Interesting...
think that is because of the way Roger played yesterday but that means nothing dont think roger tried too hard yesterday

[-J-]

great patience
chances
2 bps
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Linda]

KitKat :big grin:

[-J-]

this time
bp
cmonnnnnnnnn

[supergran]

:clap::clap::clap:

[ljs]

great way to start !!!!

[Mandiemoo]

Andy breaks first game Federer has broken back and we are 4-5 federer with Murray serving to stay in 1st set

[Madeline]

Did the forum go AWOL again? I haven't been able to get on (only trying at change-overs, of course, but failing every time).

[Mandiemoo]

Think i spotted Xenon seated near a Federer contingent!

[-J-]

lets get back on track
cmon nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Mandiemoo]

Yes, forum been down

[davech]

Did the forum go AWOL again? I haven't been able to get on (only trying at change-overs, of course, but failing every time).

I'm afraid so. It's back now. :thumbup:

[pippadaisy]

my stream keeps buffering it is so annoying

[ljs]

nice crowd support for Andy :rolleyes:

[-J-]

finish it
cmonnnnnnnn

[davech]

Great hold from Andy. Stopped the rot...

[Mandiemoo]

I was worried there but 5-5 phew

[-J-]

my stream keeps buffering it is so annoyingthisworking well for me
http://lsh.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lshatp1.html

[-J-]

good lad now after his serve
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[wriggles]

I realise it's not fed that irritates me too much. It's his fans!! :@

[davech]

It's looking pretty even now. No idea how this set is going to go.

[-J-]

first things first lets secure the TB
CMONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[pippadaisy]

thisworking well for me
http://lsh.lshunter.tv/streams/1/lshatp1.html
thats the one I have just have to stick with it

[Mandiemoo]

http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/152663/1/watch-murray-vs-federer,-atp-championships-london.html if anyone needs a stream

[Aussie Andy]

Ah, I was worried as couldn't get into the forum earlier. Come on Andy, make it a tiebreaker!

[Aussie Andy]

Only got livescores, how well are they playing?

[Mandiemoo]

Hold Tight, Tiebreak! ARGH!

[Aussie Andy]

YES! Tiebreaker! Please, please, Andy!

[AllyB]

Typical British crowd supporting the underdog, even if he is Swiss

[-J-]

AT A BOY
now you know the drill
cmonnnnnnnnnn

[-J-]

protect your serve 2 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[-J-]

great serving now 50%1 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[Mandiemoo]

Fed wins a long rally to get 3-3

[-J-]

now be greedy
cmonnnnnnnnnn

[david1610]

Aargh finally in...
3-3 You can do this. So do it. C'mon Andy!

[-J-]

sok now 2from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnnn

[Sallydaisy]

Tie-breaker, Fed serving first.

*1-0
1-1* Let's have an Ace please
1-2* An unreturnable - that'll do nicely. Now a double KITKAT please.
*1-3 That's one mini-break. Another please. Fed looks very nervous.
*2-3 Now a double hold - NO MESSING!!!
3-3* Fed pulled the trigger. All on serve in the first set.

COME ON MUZZAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JennieF]

:sad: Not able to watch the match so please please could you put a reminder of scores up for me from time to time? :thanks:

[-J-]

need this one
cmonnnnnn

[Mandiemoo]

5-4 to Fed, Andy to serve

[david1610]

:sad: Not able to watch the match so please please could you put a reminder of scores up for me from time to time? :thanks:
Andy to serve tiebreak 4-5

[-J-]

sok on serve
now 50% 1 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnn

[Sallydaisy]

3-4* Well done Andy, now just a teensy mini-break please.
*4-4 Good serve from the Fed. Humph.
*5-4 Andy must win these next 2 points. Come on Olympic Gold Man!!!
:swingin:

[ljs]

:sad: Not able to watch the match so please please could you put a reminder of scores up for me from time to time? :thanks:

do u need a livestream Jennie ?

[-J-]

could do with both here
cmonnnnnnnnnn
keep it tight

[Sallydaisy]

6-4* overhit from Andy, ran round to hit the forehand and made the error.

[pippadaisy]

aaarrrggghhh both streams buffering and the commie keeps saying 2-1

[david1610]

Fed to serve SP 6-5. C'mon Andy!

[Jane]

:sad::sad:

[Linda]

:sad:

[david1610]

Drat. Andy dominated but allowed Fed to come back, both in regular games and the TB.
I think he has to dominate... even more!!!
C'mon Andy!

[Madeline]

Oh, b........other.

Andy need to get his first serve % up, he won't win a match against the top guys unless he does. Only 49%.

[Aussie Andy]

Tiebreaker:

1-0 (RF)
1-1 (AM)
1-2 (AM)
1-3 (AM)
2-3 (RF)
3-3 (RF) Come on Andy...
3-4 (AM)
4-4 (RF) It's gonna be close! Come on Andy!
5-4 (AM) Oooh...
6-4 (RF) Ouch. ANDY!!!
6-5 (AM) I'm scared to look.

Roger Federer takes the first set, 7-6.

[-J-]

murray being booed by an english crowd
roll on 2014

[Sallydaisy]

*** very rude word ***
:grrr::grrr::grrr:

Federer takes the first set on a tie-break 7'6(5).

[Mandiemoo]

How does Fed do it? He brought his best game for the tie-breaker. As much as I don't like him, the way he came back....

Andy needs to come out strong again & get the control back.

[pippadaisy]

ach no stream at 4-3 but i know fed took it fiddlesticks to put it mildly

[Bardot]

3 sets it will have to be.

Some of those Federer fans cannot be tennis fans, some shocking behaviour.

[JennieF]

do u need a livestream Jennie ?
Am on my iPad at the moment ljs. Can't do live stream unfortunately. Might have to get my slow old laptop running, so a livestream might be an idea. Thanks!

[Aussie Andy]

Some of those Federer fans cannot be tennis fans, some shocking behaviour.

Examples?

[Mandiemoo]

I keep thinking the O2 arena has been teleported to Switzerland......

[-J-]

Examples?booing andy for changing his racket

[Jan]

come on Andy - you can still do this!

[davech]

Some fantastic serving from Andy in this game. No second set dip here.


Hopefully...

[cazza99]

Examples?

cheering when Andy hit a ball into the net

[ljs]

booing andy for changing his racket


classy bunch

[Mandiemoo]

Polite clapping and a few cheers when Andy wins a point, almost hysterical cheering when Fed does!

[ljs]

its pretty disgusting really , i hear the odd cmon Andy , but alot of the Roger chants are from British accents ugggghhhh

[Bardot]

Examples?
Cheering when Andy misses a first serve. There was even booing when Andy changed his racquet in the middle of the game.

[pippadaisy]

Polite clapping and a few cheers when Andy wins a point, almost hysterical cheering when Fed does!
Idiots

[cazza99]

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser

Federer takes the first set against Murray in the tiebreak here at the ATP World Tour Finals in Basel.

[Aussie Andy]

Thanks.

Let's hope Andy gets his own back by winning. That should shut them up.

[JennieF]

Not sure I want to get a live stream up if I have to suffer unsporting Fed fans.

[pippadaisy]

Knew Federer was swinging the cat yesterday

[Mandiemoo]

After the great support at the Olympics, this is embarassing

[wriggles]

think there are a lot of people from many countries there to be honest and basically most people from around the globe support fed as they only watch wimbledon and cant remember a tennis player unless theyve won wimbledon at least 5 times

[cazza99]

Brad Gilbert ‏@bgtennisnation

Huge 1st set from Fedfan he raised his level,i am bit surprised the crowd is at least 50-50 or slightly more for RF

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes

@bgtennisnation Because a lot of people in this country don't know a good thing when they see one

Brad Gilbert ‏@bgtennisnation

@NeilHarmanTimes great point are you seeing this from the crowd as well

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes

@bgtennisnation I'm at the back of the stands where it is clear that the support is split right down the middle, perhaps more for The Fed

[Mandiemoo]

from bbc live text:

1944:
"Roger Federer has been interviewed before the semi-final. The 17-time Grand Slam champion assured the camera that he always knew that Andy Murray could join him in the Majors, because he had consistently beat Federer himself, Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal outside of the year's big four events. "And at the US Open he did that by beating Novak," Federer concluded. Is it just me or was there a hint in there that the US Open win in September was slightly devalued by only having only beaten one of the 'Big Four' on his way?"

[Aussie Andy]

And I suppose most of them believe the anti-Andy stories.

[ljs]

think there are a lot of people from many countries there to be honest and basically most people from around the globe support fed as they only watch wimbledon and cant remember a tennis player unless theyve won wimbledon at least 5 times

true , but listen to the accents of some of them , they are British

[Mandiemoo]

Fair enough that they support Fed but booing the other player. Really?

[cazza99]

Andy got so much more support for the Olympics when he played Federer, but then that was a more of a country versus country thing rather than person versus person.

[Bardot]

There are two videos on the ATP site with interviews with Fans at the O2 and they're all British and apart from a couple of Djokovic supporters the rest are Federer obsessives.

[-J-]

true , but listen to the accents of some of them , they are Britishand lets not kid oor selves its not a pro fed thing, its an ABM THING i have been to wimbledon where loads of English where supporting some no hopper american playing andy(boggy kendrick)

[david1610]

eek. 40-0 to 40-40. Andy has a tendency to let that happens sometimes.
Focus. Safe hold. C'mon Andy!

[Mandiemoo]

In other news, Fed has got to deuce on mUzz serve from 0-40 down

[Aussie Andy]

Andy went from 40-0 on serve to deuce. Do you think he's a bit rattled?

[ljs]

and lets not kid oor selves its not a pro fed thing, its an ABM THING i have been to wimbledon where loads of English where supporting some no hopper american playing andy(boggy kendrick)

well if it upsets me , I cant imagine how Andy must feel when he hears it :(

[traveller7]

Argh fed breaks as soon as i start watching again come on murray

[Mandiemoo]

Well, Andy not helping matters there, letting Fed break him from 40-0 up.

[david1610]

Big trouble. Has to work on pushing on from 40-0.
OK, let's break back straightaway!

[Jan]

oh dear

[Alis]

C'mon Andy - break back straight away. I can't stand for Fed to beat him in straight sets.

[Aussie Andy]

If Andy loses, I'm losing interest in this tournament.

[pippadaisy]

ah no and my stream has come back for the ads and has now gone again Typical

[david1610]

Zeinab in shot? C'mon Andy!

[Mandiemoo]

The signs were not good when Crofty picked Muzz to win (nervous chuckle)

C'Mon Muzz

Djoker will be rubbing his hands in glee!

[pippadaisy]

if fed gets through i definately want Djoko to win

[traveller7]

Not sure I want to watch anymore

[Reef]

Oh PLEASE........not a Smug win......

[pippadaisy]

Told you fed was at it yesterday against del potro

[Mandiemoo]

Maybe its going to be a reverse Wimbledon? He was cruising the Fed came back, Fed cruises then Muzz comes back?

[pippadaisy]

Maybe its going to be a reverse Wimbledon? He was cruising the Fed came back, Fed cruises then Muzz comes back?
Hope your right

[Reef]

Our boy looks tired....

[Jan]

Andy needs to come up with some Murray magic quickly

[wriggles]

Not sure I want to watch anymore

really hard to watch!

[Aussie Andy]

I do not like this scoreline. RF is up 3-1 in second set.

[Alis]

C'mon folks - one break and Andy could be right back in this.

[traveller7]

Thats more like it love service game just needs to break now

[Jan]

that's more like it. Come on Andy

[Aussie Andy]

Break back, Andy!

[Aussie Andy]

C'mon folks - one break and Andy could be right back in this.

I'm clinging to your optimism.

[pippadaisy]

needs to get fed running more tire him out

[traveller7]

He is olympic champion and us grand slam champ he can do this come on murray!

[Alis]

Fed has certainly upped his game today.

[traveller7]

4-2 come on andy

[Aussie Andy]

No break this time. Fed up 4-2. Andy, hold!

[traveller7]

Fed has certainly upped his game today.

I guess that shows he needs to to beat andy these days which is a nice thought

[Aussie Andy]

Remember the time he came back against Djokovic (was is AO final or semis)?

He was 5-1 down then took it to 5-all.

[Jan]

hmm I think it might be time for the :sofa:

[traveller7]

argh shut up fed fans shut up

[traveller7]

damn 5-2 where the hell is andy?!

[david1610]

Oh dear. What happened in the last fifteen minutes?

[Alis]

O.K. folks - it looks like Aussie Open here we come!

[ljs]

:sad:

[Jan]

Have to say Fed is playing very well

[wriggles]

argh shut up fed fans shut up

im watching in mute its much better

[Alis]

Just a bridge too far for Andy tonight.

[Jane]

:crying::crying::crying:

[pippadaisy]

lost my streams and you guys is it over????:sofa:

[ljs]

and the crowd goes wild

[RFS]

Well ... After an outstanding year, he needs to bottle that Olympic/USO period and really use that for a platform for 2013 ....

[Reef]

The last thing I want to see is Fed's interview...time to switch off.

[traveller7]

All over 6-2

[Mandiemoo]

Well, I would have gladly took Olympic Gold medallist & US Open champ at the beginning of the year. Sad he couldn't make the final but people,

WHAT A FANTASTIC YEAR!

[david1610]

Oh well, fed played well at the end and Andy could not keep the level he started out with.

On to next year!

[davech]

Ah well. Fed played very well in the end.

[Aussie Andy]

:crying::crying::crying::crying:

Blow that Fed! And blow those classless, ignorant, petty fans!

[SamP]

I'm so glad I wasn't at that match tonight, I would have punched someone.

...Did some people just boo Andy off the court there?

I've got no problems with the GOAT these days, but I despise some of those fans of his.

Frustrating to see Andy get blown off the court there after starting so well. But indoors theres no conditions, and when RF finds his range and your level drops, he can go up so many gears its terrifying. Frustrating to see the match get away from him that quickly though.

[wriggles]

ugh that loss is so hard to take! dont know why! maybe the crowd rattled him it certainly did me...bunch of idiots

[-J-]

the sad sad thing is after the olympics i was really looking forward to wimbledon next year, but after that crowds performance it will be the same auld same auld, wonder if andy could get a green card in time for flushing meadows ?

[pippadaisy]

Sucks just caught a little bit of annabel saying something about boos then it went again

[Jan]

Just not consistent enough from Andy this time.
A great year, just not the finish we'd hoped for.
Have a good break, Andy, and a great training block ready for next year.
Let's not forget - Andy Murray, Olympic Gold Medallist and US Open Champion!!!

[Aussie Andy]

Well, now for Christmas. :xmas large::peekaboo::santa dance::happy new year:

THEN - Australian Open! :skippy: Multiple Grand Slam Champion would sound very good, I think.

[ljs]

ugh that loss is so hard to take! dont know why! maybe the crowd rattled him it certainly did me...bunch of idiots

Annabelle saying that those boos for the racket change rattled him , wasnt the same after that , wouldnt doubt it , poor Andy :(

Oh well , hope he has a nice holiday with Kim , and bring on 2013

[traveller7]

He has had a fab year but would of loved him to finish off 2012 by being in the WTF final

Nole better win tomorrow!

[SamP]

P.S. I think we should also remember that this is an International tournament, you've got people from all over the world at this competition. They weren't necessarily all anti-Andy brits out there tonight, there was alot of lunatics in red.

[lynne]

Sad result but "IT'S BEEN A GREAT YEAR FOR ANDY"........Hope he takes a holiday & has A Very Good Christmas at Home!!!!:thumbup:........PROUD!!!!

[pippadaisy]

I.m not upset he lost just that the crowd didn't get behind him thats upsetting why would they do that
ok i get they love fed but even so Andy deserves respect surely

[pippadaisy]

He has had a fab year but would of loved him to finish off 2012 by being in the WTF final

Nole better win tomorrow!

yep

[ljs]

P.S. I think we should also remember that this is an International tournament, you've got people from all over the world at this competition. They weren't necessarily all anti-Andy brits out there tonight, there was alot of lunatics in red.

yes there were lunatics in red , but alot of the cheering for fed was coming from the British , im sorry but thats the truth

For once i agree with Annabelle Croft , he was rattled by it

[Golden Lady]

I'm so so sad for Andy but he stands tall as Olympic champ & US Open champ & no one can take that from him. Sure he'll come back so strong in Aus. Rest up champ & have a good training block, also quality time with your loved ones. Thank you for the best season ever & the joy you've given to all your fans.

Last thing, COME ON NOLE!!

[Sallydaisy]

Very sad to see Andy go out in the Semi's; I think he'd set his heart on winning in London this year.
Thankfully he's got 3 more shots at a 'home' Tour Final title!

Federer, for all he's 5 years older, was able to produce some of his best tennis this week in the tie-break and that almost certainly boosted his confidence to keep up the level of play. Andy didn't play at all well in the 2nd set and allowed the Fed to get into his head.

With regards to the crowd ... as with every ATP event this is OPEN to anyone who wants to watch, whatever their nationality and whoever is their favourite. A lot of people were supporting Federer long before Andy made it into the top echelons of the sport and like it or not they're entitled to support who they want.

It's fairly ridiculous to expect Barclays/ATP to vet every single ticket applicant to ensure that all 17,000 people tonight were fans of Andy Murray. That'd be impossible given the format of the event.

Also, some of the forum members there are saying the cheers are equal for Andy and Fed.
I believe them because I've been on the wrong end of BBC/Sky coverage of matches before when it seemed our team/man weren't being cheered so much only to realise it's just the way they do the broadcasting.

So, I reckon peeps needn't fret their heads so much about crowd support.
Andy got a standing ovation when he walked on court for each of his matches.

Soapbox now being tucked away.

[Bardot]

It's been a fantastic year for Andy and this was one match too far. Much to look forward to in 2013. :swingin:

The sooner Fed retires the better, not because of the man or his tennis but those obnoxious fans although many will have to go on suicide watch such is their obsession with their hero. Have they contemplated what their life will be like after? :barmy:

[Mandiemoo]

I am sure people think us Murray fanatics strange but there is nothing stranger than some of the Fed fans. I went on his fan site once..... never again... :doh:

[-J-]

P.S. I think we should also remember that this is an International tournament, you've got people from all over the world at this competition. They weren't necessarily all anti-Andy brits out there tonight, there was alot of lunatics in red.sorry dont buy it, same as match against tsonga they tryied to tell us they where only cheering tsonga on as they wanted three sets nonsenses, i had to some extent became immune to the anti andy brigade but then the fantastic response he got during the Olympics lifted my expectations. tonight was the first time in my life watching andy i was tempted to turn off the tv and that was purley down to that sicking crowd booing your "home" player pathetic

[SamP]

Ugh, he wins, signs a few autographs and he's the greatest autograph signer ever too. Bet he didn't wander round Basel for 5 hours signing stuff and getting his photo taken a million times.

[HenFan]

I have to say that I thought the crowd at the O2 were disgusting tonight - I agree it's an international tournament and there will be fans of all nationalities, but you would nevertheless expect a bias in favour of Andy rather than a bias in favour of Federer - poor Andy must be thinking to himself "I win a gold medal for my country, I end a 76-year wait for a British male Grand Slam champion, what the hell do I need to do?!" Absolutely disgraceful, I'm ashamed to be British tonight!

As to the match itself, unfortunately Federer indoors is in a league of his own, it shows by his results at this tournament - I thought Andy played a blinder until he lost the first set tiebreak and then there was just no way back for him, I thought his level went down as Fed's level went up. A disappointing end to the year, but at the end of the day I think the history books will look back and remember the winner of the Olympic gold and US Open more than they'll remember the winner of this tournament (even though this is right up there). Hope Andy enjoys his off-season and can come back to grab the Australian Open, a title that I think he richly deserves! :)

Take care... :)

[Sallydaisy]

I think the history books will look back and remember the winner of the Olympic gold and US Open more than they'll remember the winner of this tournament (even though this is right up there). Hope Andy enjoys his off-season and can come back to grab the Australian Open, a title that I think he richly deserves!
With you 100% on that.
:thumbup:

[SamP]

I think in the morning you'll have a change of heart. We don't necessarily like Roger, does that make us a little hypocritical? I'd probably cheer a clap at a crucial moment from him against Andy.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think it's a little precious to think that now Andy is a slam champion, he's going to be idolised like Roger is.

[wriggles]

I have to say that I thought the crowd at the O2 were disgusting tonight - I agree it's an international tournament and there will be fans of all nationalities, but you would nevertheless expect a bias in favour of Andy rather than a bias in favour of Federer - poor Andy must be thinking to himself "I win a gold medal for my country, I end a 76-year wait for a British male Grand Slam champion, what the hell do I need to do?!" Absolutely disgraceful, I'm ashamed to be British tonight!

As to the match itself, unfortunately Federer indoors is in a league of his own, it shows by his results at this tournament - I thought Andy played a blinder until he lost the first set tiebreak and then there was just no way back for him, I thought his level went down as Fed's level went up. A disappointing end to the year, but at the end of the day I think the history books will look back and remember the winner of the Olympic gold and US Open more than they'll remember the winner of this tournament (even though this is right up there). Hope Andy enjoys his off-season and can come back to grab the Australian Open, a title that I think he richly deserves! :)

Take care... :)

We know andy is pretty thick skinned he has had to be over the last few years..he'll be able to put this into perspective i think...unfortantely the Olympic crowd only supported andy for one reason and that was to add to the gold medal tally...their allegiance to him started and finished there. when the wimbledon crowd were with fed and he lost..it only made him stronger heads up peeps!

[pippadaisy]

not sure what to think of the crowd now just hope Andy wasn't upset by it
If as Sally says it just didn't transpire well to the livestream then i hope so and the crowd were more even than it seemed
Credit where its due to the fed Andy seemed to fall away sussed that even though i didn,t see much of it
think i'll need to get tennis tv next year would anyone recommend it or does it get bother with buffering too

[Reef]

I thought Andy looked absolutely drained tonight and I think that may have been partly due to his close, and ultimately losing, encounter with Novak earlier in the week. After losing the tiebreak he seemed to have nothing left in the tank.

As for the crowd, I too had the mute button on as I could see what was happening. I just don't get the whole Roger-is-God scenario at all and as HenFan says, so much for (lack of) British support.:doh: I really hope Novak takes the title now.

[Elenive]

:( Really sad to read the news of Andy's loss!! Oh well, there's always next season

[HenFan]

I think in the morning you'll have a change of heart. We don't necessarily like Roger, does that make us a little hypocritical? I'd probably cheer a clap at a crucial moment from him against Andy.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I think it's a little precious to think that now Andy is a slam champion, he's going to be idolised like Roger is.

No offence taken - however, I have to respectfully disagree with you and say I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a British player to get home crowd support when playing in Britain. I completely agree that Federer is a legend of the game and I wouldn't expect him not to have fans in the crowd, particularly at an event that is, as has correctly been stated, open to all nationalities and which people from all over the world will travel to. And yes, I could expect a pro-Federer bias if they were playing a tournament in a "neutral" country (by which I mean, any country that wasn't Britain or Switzerland) - but to hear the British no.1 being loudly BOOED at a tournament in his home country? I couldn't believe it when that happened and I still can't.

Take care... :)

[wriggles]

I really hope Novak takes the title now.

Nole best take him to the cleaners! and purely to make the fed fans cry lol..yess im petty!

[Alis]

What do they say about a prophet in his own country? A shame that Andy's brilliant year had to end on a low but he just ran out of steam tonight. I hope he has a great holiday - he certainly deserves it.

[scrapaddict]

I may not like Fed but he played the better tennis tonight and Andy couldn't get through that. Andy will be disappointed but should look back on a great year.

Looking forward to next year now.

[Sallydaisy]

Well, Andy is upbeat in his presser. And rightly so!!!

tennishead ‏@tennishead (https://twitter.com/tennishead) Murray holding head high in post-match press conference & rightly so.
World No.3, 1 US Open, 1 Gold & a Wimbledon final. A stellar 2012.



I too hope he goes on holiday and really chills out for a week or so - it's been way too long since he did that and got away from everything and he needs to recharge ready for 2013.

[david1610]

At one point Andy was close to a double break in the first and giving Roger a drubbing which might have had "match which marks changing of the guard" headlines.

A couple of points later, he wasn't and the rest was mostly Roger's match.

Fine margins.

Andy played better for the first part of this match, Roger better for the second half.

Points taken about home crowd though as I have said before Nole is only just on the radar of most occasional tennis fans, never mind Andy

[ljs]

not sure what to think of the crowd now just hope Andy wasn't upset by it
If as Sally says it just didn't transpire well to the livestream then i hope so and the crowd were more even than it seemed
Credit where its due to the fed Andy seemed to fall away sussed that even though i didn,t see much of it
think i'll need to get tennis tv next year would anyone recommend it or does it get bother with buffering too

well the fact that the commies mentioned it and talked about it tells me that it was very noticeable , and how could it not upset him ?

[Hvala]

I didn't turn my volume ON during the match, the crowd was really for Fed?? I thought that french audience is disgusting due to many things, but according to "all" of you, british audience is worse o_O French audience is very chauvinistic! Poor Andy... And always Fed Fed Fed, I'm quite FED up...

[patmoren]

Andy gave it his best shot but his serve just wasn't working for him consistently enough. Yhe crowd at the O2 were amazing, every time they started chanting for fed we drowned them out, great fun. Anyone who says the crowd wasn't supporting Andy wasn't there!

[pippadaisy]

Andy has had a brilliant year and he sure can hold his head high, semi final at the WTF is not a bad result you know.
OLYMPIC GOLD, not to mention Olympic silver as well, US Open GRAND SLAM winner, World number I will never tire of these wins
WELL DONE ANDY FANTASTIC YEAR ROLL ON 2013
PROUD TO HAVE BEEN A MURRAY FAN FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND SOOO HAPPY I WAS HERE FOR THIS ONE
HAVE A GREAT BREAK CHILLING OUT

[ljs]

Yep , a great year for sure , and this is just a blip , hopefully he gets away somewhere warm and enjoys some time with Kim .

[rouges]

I live for the day when Roger stops playing and Rafa returns and carries on beating him. I too hope Novak wins tomorrow.I just don't know why I can't stand Roger anymore. Andy just did not perform to the best of his ability tonight. And yes he just did not get the home support and was booed, must have been disheartened for him. The positive is 800 points until end of next year.

[SamP]

Ah this isn't good to hear...

Ella Ling (ATP Photographer) on Twitter: "Win for #Federer but appalled by the overwhelming crowd support for the Swiss - even the group of Scots behind me! :("

[HenFan]

Andy gave it his best shot but his serve just wasn't working for him consistently enough. Yhe crowd at the O2 were amazing, every time they started chanting for fed we drowned them out, great fun. Anyone who says the crowd wasn't supporting Andy wasn't there!

If that's the case then I find that comforting - having been to the WTF every year I know that what's going on in the arena doesn't always translate well to TV, so that's fair enough. I'm glad you were there cheering for Andy! :clap:

Take care... :)

[pippadaisy]

Andy gave it his best shot but his serve just wasn't working for him consistently enough. Yhe crowd at the O2 were amazing, every time they started chanting for fed we drowned them out, great fun. Anyone who says the crowd wasn't supporting Andy wasn't there!
glad to hear that Pat hate to think of Andy being upset

[Fina]

Meh.
Felt Andy just didn't have enough energy left for the fightback once he'd lost the tie-break; and the seeming lack of crowd support was disappointing. It simply wasn't there to lift him. Oh well, he lives to fight another day.

Hope he can now enjoy a break and recharge the batteries. It's been a fantastic year. And he can build on it with Lendl. Here's to 2013.

[Bardot]

Julie Bertagna ‏@JulieBertagna
@NeilHarmanTimes @bgtennisnation Surrounded by 100s of English men screaming for Fed and jeering Murray, their GB Olympic Champion. Sad.

There are other similar tweets on her timeline.

[SamP]

Meh.
Felt Andy just didn't have enough energy left for the fightback once he'd lost the tie-break; and the seeming lack of crowd support was disappointing. It simply wasn't there to lift him. Oh well, he lives to fight another day.

Hope he can now enjoy a break and recharge the batteries. It's been a fantastic year. And he can build on it with Lendl. Here's to 2013.

Agree with all of the above.

I'm tipping him to win 2 more in 2013.

Provided the world doesn't end before then.

[Sallydaisy]

Ella Ling (ATP Photographer) on Twitter: "Win for #Federer but appalled by the overwhelming crowd support for the Swiss - even the group of Scots behind me! :("
Hate to say this but I know quite a few Scottish people who don't like Andy and wouldn't support him.
:sad:

I'm not setting a good example here with that comment on a tweet ... but tbh I'm not sure the over-heated emotions on twitter are helpful here on the forum. I've seen several people fall out on that media tonight and that's a bit sad really.

[pippadaisy]

Andy knows we love him i'm sure judging by his homecoming at Dunblane

[Sallydaisy]

Andy knows we love him i'm sure judging by his homecoming at Dunblane
Yes!
:thumbup:

(and I mean no disrespect to any Scots on here by posting that comment about his fellow countrymen; I've been baffled by it myself tbh).

[pippadaisy]

Maybe Andy is like marmite (as the saying goes)

[Guerkins2]

Andy gave it his best shot but his serve just wasn't working for him consistently enough. Yhe crowd at the O2 were amazing, every time they started chanting for fed we drowned them out, great fun. Anyone who says the crowd wasn't supporting Andy wasn't there!

Really glad to hear this about the crowd from a fan who was there.

[JAMES4578]

Bit gutted by the way match turned as Andy started in confident fashion and Fed took a little while to find his feet but he did turn it on once given the chance. As others have said serve just wasn't consistent ough and as the match developed he erred too often. Thought that the 2nd set was disappointing as Andy needed to try and keep the pressure on. Know there would have some from overrseas but it looked like Andy didn't have the support you would expect! It could be the Fed fans were very loud of course and we didn't get the full effect on TV. of course I know Andy has his detractors, including some scots.

Obviously a very successful year for Andy nonetheless with the slam and the Olympics win, sure more big titles can come his way!

[rk350]

I was there tonight, I thought the atmosphere was great, people cheered every good point. You could say there wasn't much support for andy but to be fair he didn't have any chances for much of the match!

The match itself, good start but his serving was very poor and his returning was maybe the worst I've ever seen it, particularly on the second serve. The fact is, every game Andy was broken he gave Fed one second serve after another. Fed played very consistently and Andy was just not good enough on the day!

[MurrayAOne]

Would have liked to have heard more support for Andy.

[-J-]

I was there tonight, I thought the atmosphere was great, people cheered every good point. You could say there wasn't much support for andy but to be fair he didn't have any chances for much of the match!

The match itself, good start but his serving was very poor and his returning was maybe the worst I've ever seen it, particularly on the second serve. The fact is, every game Andy was broken he gave Fed one second serve after another. Fed played very consistently and Andy was just not good enough on the day!how about the booing fair to say that was non particularly pleasent ?

[MurrayAOne]

I was there tonight, I thought the atmosphere was great, people cheered every good point. You could say there wasn't much support for andy but to be fair he didn't have any chances for much of the match!

The match itself, good start but his serving was very poor and his returning was maybe the worst I've ever seen it, particularly on the second serve. The fact is, every game Andy was broken he gave Fed one second serve after another. Fed played very consistently and Andy was just not good enough on the day!

I don't understand why that would mean less cheering for him. Get behind him MORE when it's not going right.

[-J-]

I don't understand why that would mean less cheering for him. Get behind him MORE when it's not going right.you mean the way they used to for TIM? now theres a thaught

[pippadaisy]

As Murray fans I guess we will Never understand the mentality of the crowds at tournaments in London
Just have to realise there a lot of trolls out there and they are to be treated with the contempt they deserve

[Bardot]

Has the location for the Davis Cup tie against Russia been decided? If not it should return to Braehead. Guaranteed unreserved support for Andy.......if he plays. ;)

[MurrayAOne]

you mean the way they used to for TIM? now theres a thaught

Well it's what I call support. Cheer your man more when he's behind and don't stop till he's back up there. Simple.

[-J-]

Has the location for the Davis Cup tie against Russia been decided? If not it should return to Braehead. Guaranteed unreserved support for Andy.......if he plays. ;)oh man there gose the cat now all we need is some pigeons ;)

[-J-]

Well it's what I call support. Cheer your man more when he's behind and don't stop till he's back up there. Simple.100% think the clue is in the name supporter

[Alis]

Booing in any shape or form at a sporting venue is just totally unacceptable in my view. The fact that our home grown champion was booed from the court after a stellar season is absolutely disgusting.

[Bardot]

oh man there gose the cat now all we need is some pigeons ;)
:big grin: Maybe Andy should announce now he's not playing so it can be held in "Middle England". ;)

[RoastLamb]

Wow! Cannot believe he lost that! A break up in the first and 40-15 up in the game where he got broken in the second, OUCH!!!

But very disappointed with the crowd. :angry:

However, can't complain about the year. Two major wins and final of Wimbly. I'll take that.

[ljs]

yes Roastie , if wed been told at the beginning of 2012 , that Andy would end up with those achievements , wed have been ecstatic !!

Just felt so bad for him 2day out there . And no one can tell me that it wouldnt bother him.

[VamosVixs]

It's been a fantastic year for Andy and while I am a little bit disappointed he couldn't finish his amazing season with a WTF win I am more sad that it didn't feel like a home tournament for him. We all know Andy gets extra motivation from the crowd when they get behind him but sadly tonight he did not get that. :sad:

[ChrisMac]

The crowd were disgraceful applauding when Andy missed a 1st serve, what was this booing about! If you did not know you would think this tournament was held in
Switzerland.

[supergran]

Well done Andy on a great year. The crowd in the 02 were an absolute disgrace. I give up. Watched with my son and he couldn't understand what was going on either. Well, we true fans are proud of our man. Hope he's not too disappointed and will be ready to take on all comers in 2013. Go Andy.......We love you.