View Full Version : CINCINNATI, QUARTER FINAL: Berdy beats Muzzah 6'3, 6'4
Next up for Andy is a quarter final against world number 6 Tomas Berdych on the Lindner Family Tennis Centre's Grandstand Court.
Berdych is one of those who still leads the H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=BA47) between the two, so hopefully Andy can level it up tonight!
supergran
16-08-2013, 18:42
What did you have to do to become a Super Moderator? Just wondering.:sofa:
The Very Best of Luck Andy!!!:thumbup::thumbup:
supergran
16-08-2013, 18:47
Good luck Andy!!
Not going to be able to follow the first hour of this match but will do so from 9pm tonight! Wishing you the best, and hopefully see you up a set by the time I bring up the live score!
traveller7
16-08-2013, 18:54
Lets go andy lets go!
Mesmerised by the Djoko/Isner match. Will change streams when Andy's match actually starts.
What did you have to do to become a Super Moderator? Just wondering.:sofa:Be super.
supergran
16-08-2013, 19:11
Be super.Really?:lol:
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:11
yay Mark Petchy commie
Great opening service game from Andy! 1-1.
I have a new laptop and am having difficulty getting a live stream. Has any one got one please?
http://lsh.streamhunter.eu/static/popups/1646431005350370.html
supergran
16-08-2013, 19:22
Let's go Andy, let's go!!!
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:25
Sloppy game from Andy now come on
http://lsh.streamhunter.eu/static/popups/1646431005350370.html
cant seem to get this on my macbook :-(
Do you have Adobe Flash Player installed?
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:28
:phew:
Do you have Adobe Flash Player installed?
Yes
I can't get it either Jennie. Usually don't have a problem with LSH. :(
that forehand of Berdych is something isnt it :nailbiter:
I can't get it either Jennie. Usually don't have a problem with LSH. :(
what about this one http://www.sportlemon.tv/20130812/vv52090dab1dadb8.36134449-619664.html
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:37
Shame Andy didnt take his bp chances there
supergran
16-08-2013, 19:38
Chances there....Come on Champ!!:GBflag:
http://lsh.streamhunter.eu/static/popups/1646431005350370.html
Success! Thanks Hawkeye - always to the rescue! My broadband is painfully slow though. Better than nothing.
Come on Andy! So good to see him playing again after so long!
what about this one http://www.sportlemon.tv/20130812/vv52090dab1dadb8.36134449-619664.html
Thanks for trying LJS. Keeps telling me I am blocked. Hope this isn't the USA blocking the livestreams!!!! Can only hope Djoko gets finished quickly and they put Andy on ESPN.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:46
The cheering going up is that Nole just been knocked out by ISner
so happy for Isner , hes just so likeable :)
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:47
Yes Im pleased for him great win
isner just beat djo, djo serving second in this set, lost the 5-6 game
Have been watching Djok. & Isner on Livescorehunter and Andy on tv - now I can concentrate on the latter.
supergran
16-08-2013, 19:52
Oh dear....Come on Andy!!!! Break back.
Yes - now I too can start watching And/Berdy. The Isner/Djoko match was fantastic.
The price of missed break points, Berdych breaks and will serve for the set.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:53
What?! I go and get a cup of tea and Andy loses his serve :facepalm:
JAMES4578
16-08-2013, 19:53
oh no Andy's had a few chances but couldn't get out of trouble on his own serve this time, come on!
not going according to plan , but hey ho early days yet
suddenly berdychh serving for the set!
:crying:Ouch - Andy lost the first set 3-6:crying:
Surely he will not be so distracted from now on - the noise from the Centre Court was very loud on my tv
Eek! Was just watching the end of the Isner/Djoko match, had half an eye on the scores here, and what has happened all of a sudden? :eek:
Although my FTM had Berdy winning the first set but Andy winning the match, so no need for worry yet :)
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:54
And there goes the 1st set oh dear there goes my FTM
Andy was on the receiving end of what he thought was a bad call, and lost his focus.
Andy was on the receiving end of what he thought was a bad call, and lost his focus.
Is that what happened? A player needs to be able to put that sort of thing behind him and concentrate on the next point.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 19:57
Mmmm Neil Harman as just tweeted about that getting under his skin
Back to the drawing board
hfwardhouse
16-08-2013, 19:57
Aaaargh. Frustrating end to the first set.
Come on Andy. Refocus and come back at him!!
Is that what happened? A player needs to be able to put that sort of thing behind him and concentrate on the next point.It's not exactly the first time...
It's not exactly the first time...
:lol:
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:00
Hold on first game a nice kitkat here would be good please
Andy had 8 aces against Tomas' 1? So why did he not take the set? :confused:
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:04
2 gone
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:06
Blew those chances
missed 3 break point chances, berdych held serve
Yay just looked, Isner beat Nole!!! Although just looked Andy is down a set :sad: :sad: :sofa:
1-1
Berdych has a rather good net game, doesn't he? Reminds me a lot of Rafa, playing mainly from the baseline but can also win at the net.
Anyway, vamos Andy! :swingin:
kenny009uk
16-08-2013, 20:07
That sort of game decides matches . Not watching it . How's the match going?
JAMES4578
16-08-2013, 20:12
Felt sure Andy would break at 0-40 but not to be,bp against him now but thankfully Andy back to Deuce.
Mandiemoo
16-08-2013, 20:13
Not the most comfortable match I've ever watched .... COME ON MUZZ!
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:13
Oh this is excruciating to watch
getting a sense of deja vous from last week
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:16
Oh dear broken again getting a sinking feeling
Mandiemoo
16-08-2013, 20:16
Deary me. An error-strewn display from Muzz tonight. If there is going to be a comeback, it needs to start this game.
break to berdych, c'mon muzza!
Oh dear - not going Andy's way tonight!
JAMES4578
16-08-2013, 20:17
Not exactly going to plan, Andy really must dig deep now.
He can still win - my FTM was Berdy the 1st, Andy in tb the 2nd, Andy in 3rd. Vamos Andy! :swingin:
I am just not enjoying this!!
Mandiemoo
16-08-2013, 20:20
Kitchen sink to Berdych, He still wins it. Muzz getting no help from Lady Luck tonight.
Sadly, Berdy is looking the better player at the moment :sad:
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:23
I cant watch too frustrating
Do we think Andy is going easy on his back ready for the USO?
I agree, luck definitely not on Andy's side tonight. Not to worry - if he loses, he has all the more time to get ready for the US Open.
At the moment, Andy is looking like Dimitrov did against Rafa. Talented, but not quite good enough :sad:
Hopefully he will be able to up his game before it's too late.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:26
Right come on Andrew kitkat here and get your backside in gear
Would it be so bad if Andy lost here? Much as I hate him losing to Berdy, it would mean he wouldn't have to risk a loss to Rafa so close to the US Open.
Mandiemoo
16-08-2013, 20:33
Flashes of Muzza brilliance interspersed with glaring errors.
Berdy looking too good right this minute.... :-(
Well, that is true. Given Andy's level in this match, and Rafa's current level, I wouldn't fancy Andy's chances if they met. And a loss here would mean additional practice time at USO.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:34
It wouldnt be the end of the world but bit concerning how his form both this week and last takes a nose dive against someone he should beat easily something he cannot afford to do in the US Open
wouldnt be so bad Alis , but I think Andy would love to play Rafa here or Fed or any of the remaining guys to be honest . These guys are pros and they wanna win these titles .
Losing can turn into a habit.
andy would lose the number 2 spot
Berdych just too good at the moment
Mandiemoo
16-08-2013, 20:38
Looks like Berdy is going to take this one as things stand.
that was a beaut from Andy yayyy
kenny009uk
16-08-2013, 20:40
andy would lose the number 2 spot
If he loses?
I hate losing berdych . He's not as good as Andy . I really wonder why he puts in poor performances sometimes . He's Wimbledon and us open champion . I suppose even nole lost tonight and us open early practice is good but I hate him losing .
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:41
Berdy to serve for match and Andys loss of 2nd spot in the world
JAMES4578
16-08-2013, 20:41
Easy hold for Andy for 4-5 but still with it all to do,really needs Berdy to give him the opportunity I feel.
Now or never Andy! Come on!
Well, he's not lost yet so there is still a chance.
But it might be better to go out now and have more practice time at USO.
kenny009uk
16-08-2013, 20:42
Maybe he just leaves his best tennis for grand slams :)
Berdy to serve for match and Andys loss of 2nd spot in the world
Is that his problem maybe - knowing that?
It wouldnt be the end of the world but bit concerning how his form both this week and last takes a nose dive against someone he should beat easily something he cannot afford to do in the US Open
................. but Novak should have beaten Isner and didn't. I don't think that will affect his chances at the Open do you?
Oh dear, oh dear:crying::crying:
Nooooooooooooooooooo. I just hope Andy does not have to meet Berdy at the US Open.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:44
What a shame oh dear
andy let himself down, return of serve lost final 2 points
Where has Andy's fire gone? He didn't look a winner :-((
Ah well, that's it. Early practice for USO now. Onwards and upwards (well, temporarily downwards maybe).
we gotta admit tho Berdych played some awesome stuff there
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:47
................. but Novak should have beaten Isner and didn't. I don't think that will affect his chances at the Open do you?
Who knows only time will tell.
Berdy played really well, so credit to him.
Andy's fire seemed to be missing tonight.
Why suddenly is our Champ losing to players he doesn't normally lose to?? I am becoming more and more nervous about him defending his US Open title.
Berdych played very well - Andy not at his best. Not the end of the world - the mission is to peak for the Open.
I think Andy already had one foot in the big Apple, these Masters 1000 are becoming an inconvenience on the road to the US Open. He lost in the 3rd round of Canada and Cinci last year and then......
It's not as if Andy didn't create chances but fair play to his bogey Berdych for serving well on the big points.
JAMES4578
16-08-2013, 20:49
oh well not Andy's day, a few 2nd serves there but he couldn't take advantage. Murray certainly didn't bring his A game but Berdy was strong today. Disappointing but sure Andy can be in much better form for the Us Open and things can be a bit different over best of 5. Of course Thomas is a player who has caused him trouble before so maybe not quite the same as the Gulbis loss.
Why suddenly is our Champ losing to players he doesn't normally lose to?? I am becoming more and more nervous about him defending his US Open title.
Eh? Andy already had a losing H2H against Berdy. But I did think that Andy was better now.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 20:50
I guess that best of 3 sets doesnt give you much room for error
Madeline
16-08-2013, 20:51
Berdy to serve for match and Andys loss of 2nd spot in the world
Doesn't Rafa have to win the whole thing for that to happen? Mind you, that's looking very possible.
Not sure why losing against Berdy should be such a surprise, he is after all a top 10 player so no slouch. Beating Andy over 5 sets however is a different matter. Shame about the points and ranking but nobody's died.
Doesn't Rafa have to win the whole thing for that to happen? Mind you, that's looking very possible.
Yes, I believe that Rafa has to win the title to take the no.2 spot.
Doesn't Rafa have to win the whole thing for that to happen? Mind you, that's looking very possible.
That's what those on twitter who seem to know are saying. The way things are going today, Fed might beat Nadal.
On recent form, you would never think that Fed would beat Rafa. But on the results in this tournie to date, who knows?
Yes I was typing I realised that the H2H wasn't good but Andy usually comes through in big matches. I think he's losing a bit of perspective where Masters tournies are concerned. He used to have a great Masters record. Wonder why his A-game has temporarily deserted him - is it some kind of hangover from Wimbledon?
Sorry, but I think you're not quite correct there, Reef, in saying that Andy has a really good Masters record. I remember saying several years ago that the reason Andy was not ranked as highly as Rafa was because he was not doing so well in the Masters tournaments. When you looked at the top 3 (as they were then) they very rarely lost early in the Masters, but Andy often did. That is why he was stuck at no.4 for so long.
patmoren
16-08-2013, 21:01
Berdy played well today. Andy played some good tennis but not good enough against an in form Berdych. Never found his A game but probably saving that for the USO
scrapaddict
16-08-2013, 21:02
Very disappointing after he played so well in the previous 2 matches. Really didn't seem as if his heart was in it although he played some brilliant points as usual.
Unusually I hope Fed wins tonight though I doubt it
Disappointed for Andy but Berdych has always been a danger to him especially in best of 3 set matches. Shame that he might lose his #2 ranking if Rafa wins the title. :sad:
Onwards and upwards to New York and hope for better things for Andy. :swingin:
Sorry, but I think you're not quite correct there, Reef, in saying that Andy has a really good Masters record. I remember saying several years ago that the reason Andy was not ranked as highly as Rafa was because he was not doing so well in the Masters tournaments. When you looked at the top 3 (as they were then) they very rarely lost early in the Masters, but Andy often did. That is why he was stuck at no.4 for so long.
I don't doubt you're right but I'm sure he went through a purple patch where he seemed to win a whole batch quite close together - two or three years back perhaps?
Anyway, let's hope that Novak keeps on losing :) Then we can see Andy & Rafa in the top two positions :)
Mandiemoo
16-08-2013, 21:06
I agree with Linda in that Andy doesn't seem to play as well as the other top players at the masters. I think looking at wiki, he has won 9 masters titles in his career from 12 finals. Novak is 14 from 24.
A thought and no doubt some will say it shouldn't be a factor and it's not an excuse but the fact Andy was scheduled on Grandstand would have annoyed him. It's faster than Centre Court and as was commented on during the match, the extraneous noise is dreadful and it is where Andy lost to Chardy last year.
It's a shame Andy lost against Berdych, it would have been good to see how he matches up against Rafa or Roger before the US Open. At the moment nobody comes close to the in form and on fire Rafa. He is just too phenomenal. He will win everything if his knees hold up, mentally he is so strong, this guy never gives up and never say die until the last ball is struck. What a specimen. Someone keeps on about Andy can go practice for the US Open, it's matches and playing against the top guys that Andy needs.
Sallydaisy
16-08-2013, 21:15
Masters Series Titles - currently active players with 4 or more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_Masters_Series_records_and_statistics
Andy Murray 9 (all on hard courts)
2 in 2008, 2009, 2010 and 2011, 0 in 2012, 1 so far in 2013.
Novak Djokovic 14
Roger Federer 24 (he's won Cincy 5 times)
Rafael Nadal 25 (19 on clay)
But, as has been pointed out, it's due to Sky that he was scheduled there, so that we can watch him at a reasonable time in the UK.
Rafa has been given the night match every day, but he prefers to play in the heat of the sun. Nobody is given what they want, the players just have to accept the conditions as they are.
traveller7
16-08-2013, 21:17
I dont think Andy cares too much about what court he is on as long as he gets to play. I do think he lost focus in that first set and never quite got it back.
Sallydaisy
16-08-2013, 21:24
A thought and no doubt some will say it shouldn't be a factor and it's not an excuse but the fact Andy was scheduled on Grandstand would have annoyed him. I don't buy that at all. Andy's often been asked how he feels about not being on a 'centre' court i.e. at Wimbledon or other big events, and he never seems to mind. Quite often I think he's happy enough to fly under the radar a bit, especially at Grand Slams and bigger events i.e. Masters.
At this level it's really up to which player is best on the day and no matter how many Grand Slams he wins it won't guarantee Andy winning every single match for the rest of his career.
He has good and bad days the same as the rest of the guys - and clearly both the world #1 and world #2 didn't have a good day today.
Like I said, some would disagree and as for Sky having sway over scheduling, they don't even have anyone on site.
We know Andy hates Armstrong at the US Open so it's quite possible the same applies at Cincinnati.
I dont think Andy cares too much about what court he is on as long as he gets to play. I do think he lost focus in that first set and never quite got it back.
Quite. Andy is not so petty as to let his place in the day's schedule affect him. It's just that Berdy is a bad matchup for him. One of those things. Can't be helped. Onwards and upwards, and let's hope he's not drawn against Berdy at USO.
Sallydaisy
16-08-2013, 21:30
I might even cheer for Feddykins tonight ...
:shocked:
... 'cos I'd like Andy to be 2nd seed for the USO.
:p
Comment from Brad Gilbert ...
Brad Gilbert @bgtennisnation (https://twitter.com/bgtennisnation) 30m (https://twitter.com/bgtennisnation/status/368476659139112960) 6'10 Isman 6'7 Delpo 6'5 Birdman in the semis the fast courts of Cincy kind to the big fellas so far
Andy did beat Berdych in the US Open semi-final last year.
kenny009uk
16-08-2013, 21:38
Andy did beat Berdych in the US Open semi-final last year.
I'd like to think if they met at us open it would be a total diff ball game over 5 sets. Just a bit disappointed to be honest losing to be honest. Andy struggles against big hitters we all know that . Will Andy be seeded 3 for the US if Rafa wins cincy.
It just shows you though that even the best lose at some time. Djokovic in semis last tourney and quarters this win. Can't win them all . Andy plays his best stuff at GS these days anyway so I wouldn't worry . Andys very difficult to beat over 5 sets.
Bit disappointed with Andy's recent form. Whilst I want him to win every match I know that's not possible but he really shouldn't be losing as he has in Montreal and now Cincinnati;doesn't augur well for New York.
patmoren
17-08-2013, 06:41
Bit disappointed with Andy's recent form. Whilst I want him to win every match I know that's not possible but he really shouldn't be losing as he has in Montreal and now Cincinnati;doesn't augur well for New York.
He lost in both last year and won the USO!!!!!
themass15
17-08-2013, 07:06
I thought this doesn't bode well for the US Open and then remembered he didn't do well in the two Masters tournaments last year. It did seem unfair with the scheduling. Whenever he comes up against Nadal, Federer and Djokovic he is always given 4th place. Even lower in the States if someone like Isner is playing.
I think Andy came out all guns blazing, then he had that dodgy call when he would have broken Berdy and I believe that Andy would have gone on from there. The match was difficult to watch because of the noise coming from the main court, was very off putting for the players. Andy will be able to get ready for the USO and work on his game, I'm not worried that Andy will not go and retain his Title. He needs a decent draw and a fair wind.
HoopGirl
17-08-2013, 08:04
This is a shame - Berdych is a player that Andy struggles against anyway but it looks to me now like its Nadal's title which
psychologically could impact Andy as he would then take the number 2 spot from Andy.
Andy needs to look after these tournaments they are important - he looks more vulnerable and flaky for losing them so
often.
traveller7
17-08-2013, 09:45
But then Andy has said he cares more about winning Grand Slams than where he is in rankings so don't think it will distract him too much if Nadal should overtake.
Disappointing for Andy but well he's suffered these kind of losses before a grand slam and gone on to go deep. I'm sad that he lost so easily to the Birdman.
Berdych is in the top 10, a tough competitor, and has always caused Andy problems.
Rafa deserves to be back in the top 2 - he's had an amazing year and is the most successful player. He has benefited from being out of the game for 7 months and having no points to defend in the second half of the year.
Onwards and upwards to New York and hope Andy has a kind draw and defends his title well. :swingin:
This is a shame - Berdych is a player that Andy struggles against anyway but it looks to me now like its Nadal's title which
psychologically could impact Andy as he would then take the number 2 spot from Andy.
Andy needs to look after these tournaments they are important - he looks more vulnerable and flaky for losing them so
often.
Yes I agree and hope all this is being addressed with Lendl and the team. It's hard to watch him being so inconsistent so soon after his "finest hour" and does make me wonder if there is a degree of hangover from winning Wimbledon. I had a feeling this might be the case.
I personally would love to see Andy play with more consistency - we all know how absolutely brilliant he can be, yet some days it just isn't there and "flaky" is a good description. Despite Novak's recent losses, somehow I still feel he and Rafa have the edge in the consistency stakes. Whilst all the pundits appeared to anticipate Wimbledon opening the floodgates for more and more success at pretty much all the tournaments, I'm not really surprised he's had this reaction.
A loss against Berdych is not too unexpected - against Gulbis, much more so. I do agree that Andy over five sets is a far tougher proposition as he has time to turn things around, often in a very dramatic fashion. Nevertheless, right now he will not only be feeling the pressure of wanting to retain his USO title but obviously ranking is important also. We know he's a big-time player so bring it on in New York Andy!
supergran
17-08-2013, 12:20
Disappointed for Andy but it was similar to last year and look what he did after those losses. I thought he played well at the start and the bad call affected him plus the noise from around him though Birdman played in same conditions. Tomas has always caused Andy problems as has been stated in other posts. Can't believe I shouted for him in his quarter against Nole at Wimbledon! There were too many errors which have to be addressed for the US Open but I'm sure Andy will sort it with the help from Ivan and team. Once again he is under pressure: defending his title and ranking. Poor boy...he never has it easy does he? And the Court scheduling did nothing to help. Hope he fares better as the champion at Flushing Meadows. Go Andy....always supporting you!!:thumbup::GBflag:
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