View Full Version : USO 2013, QUARTER-FINAL: Stan the Man beats Muzzah 6'4, 6'3, 6'2
Sallydaisy
04-09-2013, 04:00
Andy v Stan ... in the Quarter-Final of the USO.
Anyone who thought Berdych would be tough should not think this'll be easy for Muzzah.
Far from it ...
Wawrinka has had a good year and moved to #10 in the rankings AND he beat Andy at the same stage of the USO in 2010. As Andy said, in his oncourt interview, things have moved on for them both since then but he acknowledged that he had a very tough match ahead of him on Thursday.
Stats wise Andy leads the H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367) 8-5 but Stan has a win already over Andy this year, at the R16 in Monte Carlo on clay. In fact 3 of Stan's 5 wins have come on clay leaving hard success to a 2006 R128 win at Miami and that 2010 match.
The Swiss player has plenty in his locker to trouble Andy; and our man knows it. So, with a bit of luck he'll prepare well and play a lot better than he did today against Denis the Menace!
Otherwise it'll be Stan the Man in the Semi's - and that would be a huge blow to Muzzah.
Here's hoping Andy can come through!!!
:GBflag:
The match is scheduled for Thursday - time to be confirmed.
Year
Tournament & City
Surface
Round
Winner & Score
2013
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Monte Carlo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Monte-Carlo.aspx)
Monaco
Clay
R16
Wawrinka, Stanislas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx)
6-1, 6-2 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2012
Tokyo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Tokyo.aspx)
Japan
Hard
Q
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
6-2, 3-6, 6-2 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2012
London Olympics (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
Great Britain
Grass
R64
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
6-3, 6-3
2011
ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Shanghai (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Shanghai.aspx)
Shanghai, China
Hard
R16
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
6-4, 3-6, 6-3 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2010
US Open (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/US-Open.aspx)
NY, U.S.A.
Hard
R32
Wawrinka, Stanislas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx)
6-7(3), 7-6(4), 6-3, 6-3 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2009
Wimbledon (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Wimbledon.aspx)
Great Britain
Grass
R16
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
2-6, 6-3, 6-3, 5-7, 6-3 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2008
US Open (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/US-Open.aspx)
NY, U.S.A.
Hard
R16
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
6-1, 6-3, 6-3 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2008
ATP Masters Series Canada (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Montreal.aspx)
Toronto, Canada
Hard
R16
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
6-2, 0-6, 6-4 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2008
ATP Masters Series Rome (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Rome.aspx)
Italy
Clay
R32
Wawrinka, Stanislas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx)
6-2, 7-6(5) Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2008
Marseille (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Marseille.aspx)
France
Hard
R16
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
3-6, 7-6(5), 6-1 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2008
Doha (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Doha.aspx)
Qatar
Hard
F
Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx)
6-4, 4-6, 6-2 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2006
ATP Masters Series Miami (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Miami.aspx)
FL, U.S.A.
Hard
R128
Wawrinka, Stanislas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx)
7-5, 3-6, 6-4 Stats (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
2005
SUI vs. GBR WG PO (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Players/Head-To-Head.aspx?pId=MC10&oId=W367#)
Geneva, Switzerland
Clay
RR
Wawrinka, Stanislas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx)
6-3, 7-6(5), 6-4
patmoren
04-09-2013, 10:00
Hopefully Andy will get rid of all his niggles and play as we know he can. Generally comes up to the plate when against top opposition
daveollie
04-09-2013, 10:48
This is Andy's, look forward to an evening Andy Nole match on Saturday guys :-)
Golden Lady
04-09-2013, 13:29
I wonder whether Andy v Stan will be the night match tomorrow. There seems to be little logic to the court scheduling decisions at the US Open! Do they take into account the fact that Nole played the afternoon session yesterday and would therefore put himon at night, or would they like us, think that Andy v Stan would be more of a pull for the night session? Who knows what they will think or do!!!
I see that Ferrer the world no 4, has finally got his match on Ashe today, about time!
david1610
04-09-2013, 13:49
As someone mentioned last night about Andy's match, finally the night Ashe crowd got a competitive match. They might schedule Andy and Stan because of that.
I think we will know better how Andy really is when we see him in the next match. Andy has not been firing on all cylinders (I wonder if he is carrying an injury to be honest) but now he has to. This is Stan playing very well. A Tricky Stan. No point in looking beyond this match until it is over. Time for the GS champion in Andy to turn up!
Yes, David - Stan will be tricky for sure. We definitely have to just focus on this match and try not to get too carried away with ourselves. Time for Andy to show his Grand Slam holder credentials though! I am concerned that he's seemed out of sorts but then in his pressers he's not seemed at all worried. The back clutching (and other body part clutching) seems to have crept back - either the back is troubling him again, which is a big worry, or the old Andy has re-surfaced for a couple of matches - bit of a worry, but maybe less than a physical injury! For sure though, he will be up for this and Mr Lendl and co will have him well prepared. And a night match with a storming atmosphere might just be what he needs. Let's hope so.
I have a strange feeling that we are gonna see a different Andy on court vs Stan :jitterbug:
Hes seemed so calm and collected in his post match pressies , cant see it being an injury . I think hes just played to where he needed to do to win, and now hes gonna step it up . Hes gonna have to vs Stan.
traveller7
04-09-2013, 16:13
I think the clutching is a habit when he is losing - he didnt do it really when he was winning :shrug:
themass15
04-09-2013, 16:24
Unfortunately I won't be able to see it as I am going to my mother's who doesn't have Sky. I too am hoping we see the Grand Slam Champion turn up tomorrow and, sure he cannot be too injured, otherwise why would he commit to playing in the Davis Cup at the end of next week. Not sure what is worse looking at scores or watching the match!
supergran
04-09-2013, 16:24
As someone mentioned last night about Andy's match, finally the night Ashe crowd got a competitive match. They might schedule Andy and Stan because of that.
I think we will know better how Andy really is when we see him in the next match. Andy has not been firing on all cylinders (I wonder if he is carrying an injury to be honest) but now he has to. This is Stan playing very well. A Tricky Stan. No point in looking beyond this match until it is over. Time for the GS champion in Andy to turn up!He may have got a night match last night but it was not packed to capacity. Lots of empty seats and the crowd seemed dead until the third set when they were definitely in Istomin's corner.
Tension always aggravates niggles (as we all know) and Andy is bound to be tense at this stage of the tournie. It's so hard to tell with him and looking back to a year ago I can't remember whether he did the clutching thing or not? He had some tough matches but somehow came through, stamina intact.
Whilst I sincerely hope that Stan has reached the summit as far as ranking points from this years US Open, am I right in saying that winning the tournament (yes I know that means beating 3,1 and 2 in successive matches) would put him within 100 points of Swiss No.1?
Neil Harman @NeilHarmanTimes 3m
Murray v Wawrinka NB 1.30 local on Ashe tomorrow.
Sallydaisy
04-09-2013, 19:54
Excellent - that's 18.30 here in the UK!
Also, with a bit of luck the crowd will have been livened up by the first match (and the stands full ...) + it's after mid-day so Andy will be awake!
;)
I'm so glad it's not on late at night - I'm wrecked after being up since 3.15am this morning (I didn't go back to sleep!).
traveller7
04-09-2013, 20:07
Yay great time to watch him will be fully awake! And with an early night tonight too!
Yes, being entirely selfish I'm so pleased this match is at a civilised time here in the UK.
Hope it's not a disadvantage for Andy though, because that's really far more imporatant!
Andy seems happy about the match time too :) - or was he being sarcastic? It's hard to tell with him.
traveller7
04-09-2013, 21:03
Andy seems happy about the match time too :) - or was he being sarcastic? It's hard to tell with him.
Yes Im not sure?! Think he is happy though as he mentioned after all the interviews etc he didnt leave Flushing Meadows until after midnight
themass15
04-09-2013, 21:26
I am happy too as I got up at 2.05 a.m. and didn't go back to sleep too! Surprised I am still awake now.
supergran
04-09-2013, 21:31
Great time for UK fans and European fans. Would be perfect for me except I am having mani and pedi at 6 pm. Will be in the kitchen so will be listening but don't want to seem rude to my lovely manicurist and ignore her. Still won't be jumping around for the first couple of sets:) but it's not ideal. Went to bed at 5 am and was up at 10. Did fall asleep in chair before Gasquet & Ferrer's match. Think I snoozed for about 40 minutes.
traveller7
04-09-2013, 21:33
Great time for UK fans and European fans. Would be perfect for me except I am having mani and pedi at 6 pm. Will be in the kitchen so will be listening but don't want to seem rude to my lovely manicurist and ignore her. Still won't be jumping around for the first couple of sets:) but it's not ideal.
I have this great image of you leaping about with the toe separators in and hands flapping about if the match gets sticky :rofl:
I had my first ever mani and pedi the other week an early birthday present was lovely. Pedi is still going strong!
The Very, Very Best of Luck Andy!!!:thumbup::thumbup:
set up a table and get her to give you the manicure in the livingroom so you wont miss any .
Maybe you'll make a fan out of her ;)
supergran
04-09-2013, 22:52
Last time she was here Andy was playing in the North American swing and I was telling her that he would be playing later and she asked me what time would he finish. She didn't really get it when I said that I had no idea.....:lol:
Oooh goody, a match when I'll be awake again :)
Only the radio for me, but I'll be able to do and aerobics video or three in the background :)
HoopGirl
05-09-2013, 07:15
Andy seems happy about the match time too :) - or was he being sarcastic? It's hard to tell with him.
Harman in today's Times very clear that Andy not happy with scheduling from that tweet!
Hopes he's had enough rest!
It riles me that everyone seems to have written Andy off - even in his match today against Wawrinka! OK, Nadal and Djokovic are playing brilliantly but I do hope Andy will raise his game - as we know he can - and show these doubters that he can still go all the
way! Don't get mad, get even! I am feeling very nervous but will have everything crossed that he makes it to the semis.
The more I think about it (probably far too much!) the more I realise just how difficult it must be for Andy this year defending the US after winning Wimbledon. So little time in between the two Slams to get his head and body in the right place. Admittedly he hasn't played his best but he's got to the quarters using one of his major assets - sheer grit and determination. I hope that will get him through this one too but we all know not to underestimate Stan.
millypops
05-09-2013, 08:18
It has been reported that the courts at the US Open have been made faster so it is like playing on a clay court (some people suggesting to suit Rafa) so that would mean Andy might find some discomfort in his back, perhaps that is the underlying factor of him not bringing his A game to the USO.
This is Andy's, look forward to an evening Andy Nole match on Saturday guys :-)
:cauldron:
Very very nervous about this one. Hope Andy brings his A game out tonight. He's played fine so far IMHO and done just enough without peaking too soon. But for anyone who is relieved it's not Berdy.........I'd say there's nothing to choose between him and Stan as potential obstacles to Andy's progress.
Those who are saying Nole and Rafa are playing brilliantly my question is, who have they played, Nole's last opponent was a dead donkey, and anytime Rafa plays a fellow countryman he beats them hollow. I have a very strong feeling that Andy will beat Stan in 3 or 4 sets.
Those who are saying Nole and Rafa are playing brilliantly my question is, who have they played, Nole's last opponent was a dead donkey, and anytime Rafa plays a fellow countryman he beats them hollow. I have a very strong feeling that Andy will beat Stan in 3 or 4 sets.
I agree to an extent but there again, I couldn't see Istomin taking a set of either of them either. Andy will need to up his game today.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 12:35
I still feel pretty calm as I have done all week watching Andy. In his presser he said conditions were colder and he was a bit stiff. He also knows he has to up his game now in the qfs and he lost serve 4 times only in 4 sets before that he had only been broken once against Mayer so I dont think he is doing too badly. Positivity ladies and gents, positivity! He is a champ and I am certain that he will show that later on.
:cauldron: just incase ;)
Wishing Andy all the very best of luck:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:: thumbup:
daveollie
05-09-2013, 14:09
:cauldron:
Very very nervous about this one. Hope Andy brings his A game out tonight. He's played fine so far IMHO and done just enough without peaking too soon. But for anyone who is relieved it's not Berdy.........I'd say there's nothing to choose between him and Stan as potential obstacles to Andy's progress. I agree that Stan has natural ability to match Berdy, but doesn't turn it on as often so Andy's chances improve, not that Stan or Thomas can match Andy if he's on his game, anI know he's played 5 setters in the past but Stan always looks a little bit out of shape to me (compared to the other guys) so Andy's tendancy tomake somebody run a lot should work in his favour in the afternoon heat. So you can put the cauldrons away for this one haha, this is Andy's
daveollie
05-09-2013, 14:12
Those who are saying Nole and Rafa are playing brilliantly my question is, who have they played, Nole's last opponent was a dead donkey, and anytime Rafa plays a fellow countryman he beats them hollow. I have a very strong feeling that Andy will beat Stan in 3 or 4 sets.Spot on, Andy has the confidence against the top guys now, and he's found the art of upping his game late on in a tournament, this is Andy's 3rd slam, I've no doubts :-)
supergran
05-09-2013, 14:48
It has been reported that the courts at the US Open have been made faster so it is like playing on a clay court (some people suggesting to suit Rafa) so that would mean Andy might find some discomfort in his back, perhaps that is the underlying factor of him not bringing his A game to the USO.Another conspiracy theory putting Andy at a disadvantage. I do wonder if these Grand Slam tournaments resort to such things to enable top players/TV favourites/home players to do well. They can't can they?....it wouldn't be fair would it? It would be tantamount to you know what. No, forget it. It's an even playing field or hard court. I'll banish that thought from my mind.:banghead::getcoat:
nothing would surprise me in the world of Sport , but Id be so disappointed if that were true
i thought clay courts were slow?
I am feeling a bit nervous, but believe that Andy will prevail - although not likely to be in straight sets. But that is only if Andy brings his best game, otherwise Stan is going to take full advantage. Best of luck Andy! Although its great timing for the UK, I am out this evening so once again will have to try and sneak a look at Twitter from time to time to find out the latest scores......
i thought clay courts were slow?
they produce a slower game because of the friction of the clay , but i agree , I always thought hardcourts are faster
Yes, clay courts are the slowest and hard courts are the fastest. That is why it is so much easier to learn to play on clay.
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 17:40
Looks like we'll be kept waiting to watch Andy; the prior doubles match has gone to a 3rd set.
Hello all. Pleased to be able to watch this match on my laptop if there's a decent steam. Can you tell me (you Sky people) when they're out on court please. Hoping for a GREAT evening of tennis and a win!!
loving the stepanek/paes shuffle
traveller7
05-09-2013, 17:46
Oh come on doubles I am waiting for Andys match to eat my ice cream!
the Bryans are in big trouble here
RoastLamb
05-09-2013, 17:49
Oh come on doubles I am waiting for Andys match to eat my ice cream!
I'm waiting to eat my lunch!
Better eat up Fiona , Andy time :)
traveller7
05-09-2013, 18:11
Lets go Andy lets go!
The doubles has finished! Come on Andy! :swingin:
good luck Andy.
:GBflag:
I think we might be in for one of these tonight
:coaster:
should be a great match !!!!! GO ANDY !!!!!!
The players are coming out on court!
VAMOS ANDY! :swingin:
Here we go! Good luck Andy! Play your socks off!
Greg called Andy 'Mandy'. Remember when we used to say Mandy and Randy to make it clear whether we meant Murrray or Roddick :lol:
:thumbup:Great stream and Internet behaving......so far!
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 18:38
Stan is serving first - *40-30.
Great lob from Andy!!! He looks a bit sharper out of the blocks tonight. Andy also hit another fab lob but then made an error on the killer punch otherwise this might have been a different score but Stan holds the first game to 30 and it's Andy to serve.
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 18:39
Great point for 15-0!!!
good hold Andy boy :clap:
Stan playing very well !!!!!
if the 1st 3 games are anything to go by , this is gonna be long & gruelling !!!!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 18:54
Phew that was a toughie to hold
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 18:55
Tight service game there but Andy holds for 2 all, come on! Certainly a few tough points in the early stages.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 18:56
Stany holds comfortably
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:06
Still on serve 3-4 Andy
Time to step it up Andeeee!
Time for a break now Andy!!!
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 19:14
Little glimmer as Stan goes from *40-0 to deuce.
Stan's turn down the sun-blinding end now.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:16
Still no break lets hope a tiebreak looms as Andy serves at 4-5
Madeline
05-09-2013, 19:16
I have just realised I was chewing the earphone lead - maybe not a good idea. . .
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:17
Mani & Pedi done by 7.45. Well timed. Come on Andy, was hoping for a break there.
david1610
05-09-2013, 19:17
Teaching... on break.... How is it going? Both playing well? Too early to tell?
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:21
:sofa::sofa::sofa:
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:22
Is it nerves?
Andy's forehand is all over the place!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:26
Argh come on Andy couple of aces bang!
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 19:28
Yet another deuce. :sofa:
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 19:30
Teaching... on break.... How is it going? Both playing well? Too early to tell?
Murray's excellent defensive skills have kept him in this set. Wawrinka has been the aggressor and is playing very well, has had several set points. Andy surviving for now.
Teaching... on break.... How is it going? Both playing well? Too early to tell?
5-4 wawa 1st set , Andy serving to stay in the set 40-40
Wawa playing well , Andy not firing on all cylinders yet
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:31
Worried about Andy.:facepalm:
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 19:31
Another SP saved, this game going on 15 minutes long now. Unheard of!
Rats, blistering Wawrinka forehand winner brings up another SP.
Have faith guys , remember the last match ?????
Oh no!!! :crying::crying:
arrggg Andy dropping alot of balls short :(
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:33
Oh dear could see that coming and Andy will serve second once more in next set :facepalm:
Well played Stanley, is all I can say.
Madeline
05-09-2013, 19:33
:facepalm:
too many errors from Andy. Stan outplaying Andy at the moment.
Come on Andy - you can do this!
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 19:34
Wawrinka was the best player in that set, his tennis has just got more purpose about it. The aggressor on the majority of occasions, making things happen. Andy will need to step it up a level or two in terms of being more aggressive.
That was my iPad calling him Stanley. I typed in Stan!
murrayfan89
05-09-2013, 19:35
That was torture watching that game. Sadly it didn't end well for Andy.
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:35
Stan much better player in 1st set. Come on Andy, you need to bring the A game out.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:36
Onwards forget it and move on
Yip - Andy is being far too passive. I don't like it when he plays that loopy forehand.
Stan has the weapons - he can hit brutal winners - but he's a nervous player.
Andy needs to play with the controlled aggression that he normally reserves for Nole here, I think.
He is often a poor starter afternoon matches, though - can only get better.
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:42
Wish Boris would shut up.
dont know who is commentating on my eurosport stream , but ive muted him
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 19:43
C'mon Andy!!!
From *40-0 to Ad to Stan ...
:facepalm:
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:44
Good hold Andy. You can do this!!
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 19:44
:phew:
Please keep your first serve % up Andy and start rattling Stan's cage!
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 19:45
Andy certainly needs to step it up as Stan the better player at the moment,needs to be more assertive and get the serve in better working order. Of course plenty time to turn it around if he finds the form,Stan has been tough!
dont know who is commentating on my eurosport stream , but ive muted himhttp://lsh.streamhunter.eu/static/popups/16832804110470.html
Sky comms, Petch and Boris I think.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:48
Lord Sugar says this:
Don't like body language of Andy Murray he needs to focus and stop getting angry with himself or he could find himself out of the US open
Very true
I'm going to take the dog for a walk round the block and hope by the time I get back Andy has found some form!
I think Andy def more worried about Stan than the other way round - you always know by the way he's playing
I think Andy def more worried about Stan than the other way round - you always know by the way he's playing
Great minds think alike - I was just thinking of taking the dog for a walk myself!
supergran
05-09-2013, 19:53
Andy will have to get better...he'll have to!! He will get better.
I mute all of them...
I mute them all and listen to Radio 5 Live on 0144, not any better but a couple of seconds ahead
Howdie65
05-09-2013, 19:58
Not liking that Stany is serving first again in this set. Andy needs to get a break in quick.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 19:58
negative body language creeping in again come on andy your defending champ play like it!
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 19:59
C'mon Andy, you can play way better than this!!!
:cheer:
I can't bear it when Andy plays like this, so disappointing.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:00
Oh dear oh dear this isnt good
Stan just too good so far. If I didn't want him to lose, I'd be enjoying watching him play.
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 20:00
A few errors and Stan takes his chance to lead 4-2, come on Andy!
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:00
Not looking good at the moment and Stan keeping up the pressure. I'm trying to stay positive and will him on.:crying:
Howdie65
05-09-2013, 20:01
Am going to adopt my usual trick of muting the sound and only looking at the screen every now and again to see what's happening. Not feeling confident that Andy can turn this around.
I can't bear it when Andy plays like this, so disappointing.
.
Absolutely - looks like there's no belief. Horrible viewing. Switching over to something else
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:01
Stan just too good so far. If I didn't want him to lose, I'd be enjoying watching him play.If I was neutral I'd be enjoying this display.
Am going to adopt my usual trick of muting the sound and only looking at the screen every now and again to see what's happening. Not feeling confident that Andy can turn this around.
I've tried that already!
Has to take this set or this one's done in straights.
Sorry Andy, but I can't see you coming back into this. I really hope I'm wrong.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:02
Ok now Im worried 2-5 and set down this isnt good. Ive switched off the livestream but livescore on the usopen website keeps leaping back and forth dont know where I am at! prob for the best :(
negative body language creeping in again come on andy your defending champ play like it!
If he had played like this last year, he would not be the defending champ. :sad:
However there is still time to turn it round if he can switch on his A-game.
Tried listening to 5Live whilst watching Eurosport on my laptop. Rather disconserting!
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 20:04
Never give up on Andy Murray until the Umpire calls GSM ...
:whistle:
C'mon Muzzah!!!
:swingin::swingin::swingin::swingin::swingin:
Craigenhogen
05-09-2013, 20:04
I've still got hope. He was a set and 5-2 down last year in the QFs and came back to win in 4. COME ON THE MUZZMAN!
Howdie65
05-09-2013, 20:06
Needs to win the game as don't want Stany serving first again in the next set.
If Andy wins this it will be......well a miracle the way he's playing. When I think how he beat Nole when both were playing heart and soul. He doesn't seem to have the magic. :sad:
I hate these sort of matches so I'm going to do something else and hope that if I'm not watching Andy will somehow find his form and put Stan away. He's always been one of Andy's danger players and I've never enjoyed watching their matches.
Come on Andy!!!
Howdie65
05-09-2013, 20:08
I've tried that already! Whenever I've done it, it works more often than it doesn't! Let's hope it works today.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:08
:phew: he holds now a nice kitkat please
I've still got hope. He was a set and 5-2 down last year in the QFs and came back to win in 4. COME ON THE MUZZMAN!
I shall hang on to this!!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:10
Come on peeps a bit of positivity he has been in the same situation and dug himself out of it he can do it again!
Another set gone!!!:crying::crying:
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:13
Ok a five setter thats fine, thats the reason why they put him on earlier for us Brits
Onwards andy game change, go to the loo and come back out a WINNER!
:sad:
On the plus side, Andy has come back from two sets down more than once.
This is so... tame!
Play up Andrew!
I'm feeling queazy now. Will watch how Andy starts set 3 and if it's painful I will have to chicken out and switch off. I'm so sad.
certainly not the Andy of last years usopen , but not over yet
What's so frustrating is knowing what he's capable of when on his game & confident. At least make a fight of it Andy PLEASE.
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:17
Come on Andy...You can turn this around. You've done it before but you need to focus and play well! Let's all be positive and will him on.:thumbup::GBflag:
Hmm.
I think that Andy is feeling some pressure of being defending champion at a slam and the extra exposure it brings.
Stan has upped his level. Hitting some fabulous winners off both wings. He was making uncharacteristically confident comments prior to this match - and I think has impetus from the Berdych match.
Can Andy turn this around? Of course he can. He has resilience, and can fight when his back is against the wall.
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 20:18
Andy had shot on that return but misfired and now two sets down. of course he's had great recoveries before but if Stan doesn't have a lapse it may be tough to win 3 in a row. of course all is not lost, come on!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:18
As Boris mentioned this was the position he was in against verdasco at Wimby and looked what happened there.....
hfwardhouse
05-09-2013, 20:19
Not the match I was anticipating. Andy is very out of sorts. Hate seeing him chuntering to himself like he has been.
Having said that Stan is playing very well and can't seem to do anything wrong at the moment.
COME ON ANDY!!!
Positive vibes now please. Let's hope until GSM
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 20:20
Needs to get the backhand up the line into play more. Important hold at the start of the 3rd though, cmon Andy!
Honestly can't see Andy coming back into this. Feel so sad, not only because he's losing but the way he's losing.
Annabel, Greg & Co will have a field day if the real Andy doesn't show up soon & time running out.
:GBflag::GBflag: OK supergran.
Not the match I was anticipating. Andy is very out of sorts. Hate seeing him chuntering to himself like he has been.
Having said that Stan is playing very well and can't seem to do anything wrong at the moment.
COME ON ANDY!!!
Stan is being allowed to play well - that's the problem
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:24
:GBflag::thumbup::GBsmile:
COme on Andddddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
If Andy could get this set I think he'll turn on the slam-winning Andy we've come to know.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:27
If Andy could get this set I think he'll turn on the slam-winning Andy we've come to know.
Yep I think a break would gee him up a bit so down on himself right now
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:28
Oh no and Stan breaks in the 3rd I think this might be all over for Andy so gutted
It's like watching Roger/Robredo, I have a funny feeling Andy does not want to face either Novak or Rafa. Far too many U/E. He is just throwing it it away. One can just see it. Unless it's the Back again.
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:28
#alwaysbelieve #alwaysbelieve #alwaysbelieve #allinformurray #allinformurray #allinformurray:GBflag::GBflag::GBflag::GBflag::GB flag:
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 20:29
Hopefully Stan will tighten up.
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 20:30
Unfortunately it's a break to Stan again, though unlucky with the netcord in that game. Fear it's an uphill battle now!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:31
Holding the way he is not likely
Andy is just having no luck at all
I'm giving up, going to bed for a cry. Can't bear to think that he's going out in straight sets. What on earth has gone wrong??
It's like watching Roger/Robredo, I have a funny feeling Andy does not want to face either Novak or Rafa. Far too many U/E. He is just throwing it it away. One can just see it. Unless it's the Back again.
I was thinking this too.
Stan might get tight as this set progresses - but ultimately Andy has to dig deep here.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:32
Just ghastly to watch no idea where the real Andy is today but he sure as hell didnt turn up to this match
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:33
Did not expect this. Wish he'd been playing Berdych. Can he turn it around. He'll 'af fo be quick!! Come on Andy!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:33
If it is his back he would be very stupid to go and play in the davis cup
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 20:34
It is a strange performance this, totally lacklustre. He's had chances to take that backhand on up the line but opted out of it, hopefully it's nothing physical. Just an inept performance all round really as far as Andy is concerned. If he does go on to lose, it's not the end of the world. He can't win all the time, he's a human being not a robot and his efforts over the past 12 months or so maybe they are taking their toll.
TheHippyJesus
05-09-2013, 20:34
Andy Murray is a tennis player.
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:36
If it is his back he would be very stupid to go and play in the davis cupPerhaps he's saving himself for the Davis Cup.:GBsmile::GBflag:
Craigenhogen
05-09-2013, 20:36
Do you think if we all went outside and shouted "COME ON MUZZAH" there's a tiny, tiny chance he'll hear us on Ashe ;)
It is a strange performance this, totally lacklustre. He's had chances to take that backhand on up the line but opted out of it, hopefully it's nothing physical. Just an inept performance all round really as far as Andy is concerned. If he does go on to lose, it's not the end of the world. He can't win all the time, he's a human being not a robot and his efforts over the past 12 months or so maybe they are taking their toll.
I feel sure this is the case but it's still hard to watch as it's been so long since we've this sort of performance from Andy.
It is a strange performance this, totally lacklustre. He's had chances to take that backhand on up the line but opted out of it, hopefully it's nothing physical. Just an inept performance all round really as far as Andy is concerned. If he does go on to lose, it's not the end of the world. He can't win all the time, he's a human being not a robot and his efforts over the past 12 months or so maybe they are taking their toll.
Well Said !!!!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:41
It is a strange performance this, totally lacklustre. He's had chances to take that backhand on up the line but opted out of it, hopefully it's nothing physical. Just an inept performance all round really as far as Andy is concerned. If he does go on to lose, it's not the end of the world. He can't win all the time, he's a human being not a robot and his efforts over the past 12 months or so maybe they are taking their toll.
Yet the other top players manage to win Grand Slams and come back 12 months later and win it again he is no different to them
It took several attempts before Nole successfully defended a title.
wawa just playing too good
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:44
Stan is too good at the moment and at other moments too. Poor Andy...feel for him.
Stan's got in his head - I blame that claycourt match where he demolished Andy
Also worth noting that Stan took Novak to 5 sets at the Australian Open - and got a lot of confidence from that, apparently.
I'm pretty certain that Novak would also have had his hands full playing Stan in the form he is in today. It's as much of Stan playing well today as Andy being sub par. Today, Stan has had no right to hit winners from some of the positions he's been in.
I wonder whether Andy has a cold or something? He looks like he can't summon up any enthusiasm at all.
I wonder whether Andy has a cold or something? He looks like he can't summon up any enthusiasm at all.
not being allowed to
Craigenhogen
05-09-2013, 20:46
It's never over until someone wins match point. I still have hope in Muzzah! LET'S GO ANDY LET'S GO!
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 20:47
Yet the other top players manage to win Grand Slams and come back 12 months later and win it again he is no different to them
Maiden slam, first Brit in 70+ years to win Wimbledon. This all in the last 12 months, think we can give the man some leeway.
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 20:47
oh well certainly all over now at 5-2 down, will be frustrating for Andy to lose in this manner.
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 20:47
Where's Kim and Judy???
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 20:48
It's never over until someone wins match point. I still have hope in Muzzah! LET'S GO ANDY LET'S GO!
Indeed.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:48
My internet has collapsed in sadness :crying:
Well now, Stan could choke whilst serving for it like Gasquet did that time then Andy would come back strong and win again!
It will mean avoiding all sports bulletins, newspapers etc etc - I hate all that. Wonder what Ivan is thinking...
Stan has played well, but Andy shouldn't be getting 4, 3 and 2ed by anybody.
I am so sad and disappointed about this result,:crying::crying: but Stan was very impressive, and I hope he can go all the way in the tournament.
Madeline
05-09-2013, 20:52
I'm depressed. He didn't just lose, he was totally outplayed.
oh well , disappointing , but knew it was a possibility :(
supergran
05-09-2013, 20:53
I hope Stan wins now. I am so disappointed for Andy. My US Open is over. Off to pack for my weekend away...will not be watching tennis.
I'm depressed. He didn't just lose, he was totally outplayed.
Stan is a good player , and has played some great tennis his last few matches , it happens
oh well , disappointing , but knew it was a possibility :(
Yes not unexpected but the manner of the defeat was unfortunately.
traveller7
05-09-2013, 20:53
So disappointed I really thought it would be a win for andy today am baffled as to why he was so lacklustre. He hasnt been right all tournie really just hope nothing serious although being the last GS he has time to rest and hopefully get the AO in January.
Well done Stan he did play well just had the answer to everything dont think he will beat Nole though.
Craigenhogen
05-09-2013, 20:53
I don't care that he lost. He's done so much over the past twelve months: olympic gold and silver, US Open and Wimbledon. He gives it his best and if that isn't enough he goes away trains and comes back even better, stronger, harder to beat. Today the King may have lost one of his crowns but there are plenty more he'll be able to compete for and no doubt claim as his own.
DaveArneRiise
05-09-2013, 20:54
Hopefully Andy will do what's necessary to come back stronger. Still got a long fulfilling career ahead of him, this could serve him well in the long run. Another learning curve. Well done Stan, great tennis from him.
I am so sad and disappointed about this result,:crying::crying: but Stan was very impressive, and I hope he can go all the way in the tournament.
Agreed.
Stan's first first semi final.
I really hope that Stan can beat Novak in the semi (assuming he beats Youzhny).
I think it's hard to win a slam, but especially with the competition around, it's even harder to defend one. That's important for Andy to bear in mind. Plenty of other US Opens for him to win - and other slams too, of course.
well Stan The Man turned up, and how! he played stunning tennis, I hope he can keep it up in his next games!
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 20:55
There you go, Stan the Man has made his first ever Grand Slam Semi-Final at the age of 28.
Kudos to Stan, he had a game plan, played aggressively and knew HOW to beat Andy today.
Andy didn't seem right from the off but, as ever, I for one hoped he could produce his special brand of genius tennis when he needed it. He couldn't so it makes me wonder what might or might not have been bothering him.
He's made the QF but he's not only lost it but a shedload of points too.
I'm sure that, provided he's not nursing an injury of some sort, he'll be in Croatia next week.
This is for all you guys on the forum and AMFF'ers on twitter and facebook.
:grouphug::grouphug::grouphug:
It reminds me of Wimbledon where Novak couldn't stop Andy, never won a set either. So it happens to the best of them. May be Gasquet will demolish Novak too as they are all afraid of facing Rafa. Andy doing Press meeting on 5LIve
i agree traveller , big difference between the Andy of last usopen and this one
I can't believe Andy would be so far behind Stan unless there's some sort of physical problem. :banghead:
It may well be down to Dan & James after all in Croatia...
hfwardhouse
05-09-2013, 20:56
So disappointed for Andy. But he really didn't get into it after the first set.
Credit to Stan - he played a great match. Hope he can continue this form and rattle Nole (assuming Nole wins, of course!).
I'm not sure where the real Andy Murray was tonight. I hope someone finds him soon.
An injury? Illness? Bad day at the office? We may never know.
Disappointing to see Andy play like that. If we're disappointed, just think how he must feel.
But let's not forget that our man is Wimbledon champion - and I'd rather that than another US Open title if I'm honest.
The disappointment we feel is nothing to what Andy must be experiencing. Well played to Wawrinka who never let up. Maybe if Andy had held the 10th game in the first set.....Andy seems to have left it all at Wimbledon and it's going to take time to recover.
Andy already in his press conference. Playing it with a straight bat. "an achievement to make QF"....."and I've had a good run in grand slams".
RoastLamb
05-09-2013, 20:58
Credit to Stan who played very, very well. Disappointed for Andy but not as much as I would have been before Wimbly.
Thank goodness for this community....great people here. Always someone who manages to say the right things when it all seems too much.
Thank goodness for this community....great people here. Always someone who manages to say the right things when it all seems too much.
So True , unlike that other place :facepalm:
traveller7
05-09-2013, 21:00
Thank goodness for this community....great people here. Always someone who manages to say the right things when it all seems too much.
here here just want to give Andy a big hug now.
So all those who were saying he would lose this match were right - did they know something I didn't?? I do know something was not quite right with Andy tonight, nothing worked for him, no enthusiasm. He shouldn't be losing in straight sets like that so perhaps he has got an injury. Whatever it is I wish him well.
Such a shame when we know he can play so much better. Hope he can bounce back quickly. I suppose being a real fan means you take the rough with the smooth and let's face it there has been a lot of smooth lately. He knows he will always have our love and support.
scrapaddict
05-09-2013, 21:08
Very sad and disappointed though Stan did play well. All through the USO Andy has seemed lacklustre so maybe there is a problem he's not let on about?????????
Onwards to the ATP finals -m after Asia that is
I think it's a touch of burnout post Wimbley - maybe we expected too much. Andy kept saying he had no idea how he would feel defending a major post-Wimbledon and now he's finding out. Another learning curve along the way.
Sallydaisy
05-09-2013, 21:10
Someone on twitter has offered up a novel reason for Andy's loss tonight to Stan.
;)
BadToss @BadToss (https://twitter.com/BadToss) 39m (https://twitter.com/BadToss/status/375717292614508544) Murray has reckoned that the only way he can **** off Fed now is by letting Stan take the number one Swiss spot.
JAMES4578
05-09-2013, 21:15
Certainly a disappointing performance from Andy but there's been a few highs lately and we must put into perspective. Sure not the way Muzzah wanted to lose his crown but sure there will be special moments in the future!Possibly there has been issue with Andy's back post Wimbledon,though of a course a few factors in the outcome tonight and he won't take any credit away from Stan.
supergran
05-09-2013, 21:17
He lost a match, nobody died and he'll be back. He can't win every GS every blooming time. He is still my champion and I hope he enjoys playing in the DC with his friends. Andy fan for ever.:thumbup::GBflag:
I'm soooooo gutted, although I guess that in my heart of hearts I thought it was a long shot to win, I expected him to go at least another round and be beaten by one of the 'big four'. I really didn't expect him to go out to Warinka.
Not the happy birthday I was hopoing for :(
This is the story and it matters not that other players have not been affected in the same way after a big win. Winning Wimbledon was Andy's lifelong dream.
Ben Rothenberg @BenRothenberg 4m
Andy Murray admitted that after the enormity of winning Wimbledon for him, it was hard to fire himself back up and train at "110%."
LC the fan
05-09-2013, 21:22
Feel sure there was some problem. Not even a break point ? That's not our Andy, no matter how well Stan played.
Feel really sad but.....at least he has time to get to Croatia and prepare
traveller7
05-09-2013, 21:26
This is the story and it matters not that other players have not been affected in the same way after a big win. Winning Wimbledon was Andy's lifelong dream.
It took him a few weeks to get his head round winning Wimby so I guess its all understandable. I am disappointed for him as I am sure he would of rather played a little better but then maybe now is the best way to go out rather than against Nole or Nadal who knows.
millypops
05-09-2013, 21:27
Lets not take anything away from Stan he played the better match today, lets not make excuses for Andy Stan deserves to win.
Howdie65
05-09-2013, 21:28
He lost a match, nobody died and he'll be back. He can't win every GS every blooming time. He is still my champion and I hope he enjoys playing in the DC with his friends. Andy fan for ever.:thumbup::GBflag:
Agree with that Supergran and Andy does too I think. Looking at tweets from Ben Rothenberg Andy said in his presser "I don't know if I'm meant to win every Grans Slam that I play" and he admitted that after the enormity of winning Wimbledon for him, it was hard to fire himself back up and train an 110%.
Nole, Rafa, Fed and Delpo have never had the same pressure that Andy has had and for for such a long time so I for one will never be slagging Andy off when he loses. I am so thankful that we have him and he has given us a fantastic year. I believe he will come back so strong for the Aussie Open and maybe he just needed to get this one out the way as defending champ. Chalk it up to experience and move on. Greg was saying that Stan played better tonight than in the match he played against Nole in the Aussie Open this year and that was incredible so if Nole wins tonight he had better be on his AAA game. I am now rooting for Stan or Nole to win. Anybody but Rafa as just not buying his supposedly career ending knee problems.......When something seems too good to be true it usually is.
LC the fan
05-09-2013, 21:29
And to think I was so relieved to see the birdman go out...I thought he was the danger man
Andys press http://www.usopen.org/en_US/interactive/video/index.html?promo=subnav&category=press
Quite right supergran. Andy lost a quarterfinal match to a player who was playing one of those dream matches when everything went right for him. We cannot expect Andy to win every match and every title he competes for. Andy was having one of those nightmare matches when everything went wrong for him. I'm sure he will bounce back from what must have been a very difficult match for him. It was always going to be difficult for him so soon after all the Wimbledon excitement to successfully defend his USO title.
Certainly he is still our champion and I hope he has a fun time in Croatia with a victory for our boys.
He'll be back for the indoor season I'm sure firing on all cylinders. I hope there is no problem for Andy and that he's OK.
Onwards and upwards Andy. :swingin: :unclesam: :GBflag: :grouphug:
I'm soooooo gutted, although I guess that in my heart of hearts I thought it was a long shot to win, I expected him to go at least another round and be beaten by one of the 'big four'. I really didn't expect him to go out to Warinka.
Not the happy birthday I was hopoing for :(
Happy Birthday !!!!
traveller7
05-09-2013, 21:58
Shame for @andy_murray but defeat is a reminder that winning 1 slam, let alone two, is an incredibly difficult thing to do. #JustSaying
Elena Baltacha just retweeted this
Stan was in 'the zone' tonight - everything went his way and nothing went Andy's. Well done to Stan. If Andy had to lose, I'm so glad that it was Stan that Andy lost to and not Berdych - I would have found that much more difficult to stomach and I think perhaps Andy would have done too.
Golden Lady
05-09-2013, 22:00
I remember discussions we were having at the beginning of the year about what our hopes were for Andy in 2013. Myself & others talked about how we felt the no 1 ranking wasn't of high importance but that we just wanted another slam for Andy this year. Well he did that, he went & won the biggest & the best one of them all! I am still riding high from that win & could do for the rest of the year. I think that win was utterly colossal.
Yes this loss is disappointing but Andy will bounce back.
Love you Andy!
Stan has also caught the imagination of the Swiss public - this Swiss comic strip (translated into English) made me laugh!!
btw - Stan trails only Nole and Rafa this season in terms of top 10 wins (he has 7, I think). That just shows how dangerous an opponent he was today for Andy.
david1610
05-09-2013, 23:12
Stan was in 'the zone' tonight - everything went his way and nothing went Andy's. Well done to Stan. If Andy had to lose, I'm so glad that it was Stan that Andy lost to and not Berdych - I would have found that much more difficult to stomach and I think perhaps Andy would have done too.
I did not see the match as I was working. It is not unexpected as the real Andy has not really been "there" at Flushing Meadows this year. There was the possibility that he would step up but there was also the reality he might not..
I am so, so glad this did not happen against Berdych because at least this does not undermine last year's performance. If Birdy had beaten him, it would have allowed him snide remarks like "see what happens when I get to play him without a strong wind" which would have run the risk of belittling last year's performance. Small mercies...
DaveArneRiise
06-09-2013, 00:36
This is the story and it matters not that other players have not been affected in the same way after a big win. Winning Wimbledon was Andy's lifelong dream.
Other players have though, Nadal was the heavy favourite going into Wimbledon but failed to flatter after his RG exploits. Winning 2 slams in a row & defending slams in this era is exceptionally difficult. Furthermore Andy missed RG it was a monumental effort to ready himself for Wimbledon let alone win it. People who give Andy a hard time for his US Open exit really ought to get their craniums checked. It's testament to Andy and the work he puts in that people are so mind-boggled about him failing to reach a grand slam Semi.
Hard luck Andy. A pretty rough day at the office but Stan had an AMAZING match! Well done to him! Andy hasn't been on top form this USO. Post Wimbledon win hangover I guess. Perhaps I should be more gutted but I am not. He still has had the most amazng year! He will be back stronger than ever am sure! And still proud of him!
I guess the fact we had to endure so many murraycoasters, so many near misses before his first GS win and then the highs of USO, Wimbly and Olympics wins, losses like this one are not as hard to bear
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