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Main thread for discussing the tennis and players
http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/
Please discuss tickets and who is going in the Coaches Corner thread.
5 Players are now through - Nishikori being the latest addition. Sorry table did not format properly.
1 Novak Djokovic Top seed falls to Bautista Agut in Shanghai SF 10600
2 Andy Murray Second seed beats Bautista Agut in Shanghai final 9685
3 Stan Wawrinka Shanghai third seed falls to Simon in 3R 5060
4 Milos Raonic Fifth seed upset by Sock in Shanghai 3R 4690
5 Kai Nishikori Will make third straight appearance 4360
6 Gael Monfils Top seed could meet Jack Sock in Stockholm QFs 3625
7 Rafael Nadal Stunned by Troicki in Shanghai opener 3300
8 Dominic Thiem Missing Shanghai w/ illness; returns in Vienna 3205
9 Tomas Berdych Setback with Shanghai R2 loss 2880
10 David Goffin Top seed in home tournament in Antwerp this week 2645
11 Marin Cilic Eighth seed falls to NextGen Zverev in Shanghai 2R 2590
12 Nick Kyrgios 12th seed falls to M. Zverev in Shanghai 2R 2460
13 Roberto Bautista Agut Shanghai runner-up top seed in Moscow this week 2340
14 Roger Federer Won't compete again until 2017 2130
15 Lucas Pouille 13th seed loses to Murray in Shanghai 3R 2106
16 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga Ninth seed loses in Shanghai QF 2070
sir coolerking
20-10-2016, 17:07
With Nadal pulling out, this just got interesting again. Should be a good fight for that final spot now between Berdych, Goffin and Cilic. If Goffin wins Antwerp this week he still can't overtake Berdych but moves to 2850. The other potential mover is RBA who would move to 2500 should he win Moscow.
themass15
20-10-2016, 17:38
Of those I would like to see either Goffin or RBA.
angiebabez
20-10-2016, 17:40
Ooh god...dont let it be berdych...if i get him again in my RR i think i may scream!! Goffin is my pick
themass15
20-10-2016, 17:42
Berdych v Raonic or Berdych v Cilic - nightmare!
RosieBear
20-10-2016, 18:26
Shame for Rafa to pull out, but several players I really like are in qualifying contention; namely Goffin, Monf and Thiem. Hopefully Rafa's absence helps one of them. Definitely not the end of the world to see some new faces, and these guys are all fantastic to watch and likeable personalities too.
themass15
20-10-2016, 19:18
Won't put bums on seats like Rafa would.
roytennisfan
20-10-2016, 21:23
So missing at least three from last year (Roger, Rafa and David) but would be nicer if we are missing a fourth one (Berdy), would love to see Goff make it instead
I'm hoping Andy plays on the Monday, as I've been invited by my cinema to go there and watch the 1927 film called Napoleon and then they want me to review it (like I did with the last one).
themass15
22-10-2016, 15:15
I am hoping Andy plays on the Sunday; will be oh so disappointed if he doesn't.
tennis890
22-10-2016, 17:07
I am hoping Andy plays on the Sunday; will be oh so disappointed if he doesn't.
Ditto!
I'm hoping Andy plays on the Monday, as I've been invited by my cinema to go there and watch the 1927 film called Napoleon and then they want me to review it (like I did with the last one).
i googled Napoleon, "This ambitious silent film, renowned for its groundbreaking camerawork and editing, portrays the early life of French ruler Napoleon Bonaparte (Albert Dieudonne), beginning with his childhood and ending with a successful military campaign in Italy. A native of Corsica, Napoleon becomes a staunch supporter of his island home, but eventually flees due to conflicts with its leadership. Once settled on the French mainland, Napoleon begins his climb up the military ranks.
Initial release: 1927
Director: Abel Gance
Screenplay: Abel Gance
Producer: Abel Gance
Music composed by: Carl Davis, Carmine Coppola, Arthur Honegger"
don't these Coppolas get everywhere!
Am also hoping for a Monday start for Andy.
themass15
22-10-2016, 20:28
Are you going on the Monday Pat?
Are you going on the Monday Pat?
Yup.
angiebabez
23-10-2016, 22:42
Monday start for me. Only because im going Friday night so a 50/50 chance to see andy in last RR
I'm only going to the semis so I just want Andy to get there! Really disappointed Rafa won't be playing the event but hoping for LaMonf and Thiem.
themass15
24-10-2016, 16:59
Agreed. Would love them both to be there and probably Goffin too, rather than Berdych. I think the loss of Roger and Rafa at the tournament is affecting the tournament though. By this time last year, a lot of the other sessions were sold out. Sunday afternoon defo will be if Andy is playing.
Not confirmed, but some tweets from good sources.....
Carole Bouchard @carole_bouchard 12m12 minutes ago
7-5,6-3 pour Del Potro vs Goffin. Thiem a perdu aussi. La Monf' officiellement qualifié pour Londres ?
Translated from French by Bing Wrong translation?
7 5, 6-3 to Del Potro vs Goffin. Taylor has lost too. The Monf' officially qualified for London?
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Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser 4m4 minutes ago
@carole_bouchard Yep, no way three players can overtake Monfils now.
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Carole Bouchard @carole_bouchard 2m2 minutes ago
@stu_fraser Thanks ! Now hoping he won't bust a knee or ankle before London...
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It's Official...............
ATP World Tour @ATPWorldTour 8m8 minutes ago
.@Gael_Monfils is 6th to qualify for Barclays #ATP World Tour Finals, will make #ATPFinals debut @TheO2 next month! http://bit.ly/2eKxAcP
RosieBear
27-10-2016, 17:28
Yay - commentators on Andy's match just confirmed Monf has qualified for WTF. Good for him - so deserves it after all his injury woes. Would love to see him.
themass15
27-10-2016, 17:33
Just received the email saying Monfils has qualified. Great news!
That is good news and may help the ticket sales - Gael is great entertainment value.
jackie55
27-10-2016, 19:08
Just received the email saying Monfils has qualified. Great news!
That is great news, l have never seen Monfils play live, hope he is playing on one of the days l am there :thumbup:
themass15
27-10-2016, 22:41
Seen him a few times; he is such a great entertainer. He has to stay fit though!
Soooo happy that Monfils has qualified :boogie::boogie: .... He seems pretty overwhelmed judging by his tweet (which I have no idea how to copy onto here!)
Soooo happy that Monfils has qualified :boogie::boogie: .... He seems pretty overwhelmed judging by his tweet (which I have no idea how to copy onto here!)
Gael Monfils @Gael_Monfils (https://twitter.com/Gael_Monfils) 24h24 hours ago (https://twitter.com/Gael_Monfils/status/791702264553545728) For real???https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f643.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f64f-1f3fe.png https://www.instagram.com/p/BME2Xq9jBGh/ (https://t.co/5GkVB0TaxZ)
themass15
28-10-2016, 18:30
Shame Monfils isn't playing n Paris.
Sallydaisy
28-10-2016, 18:33
Shame Monfils isn't playing n Paris.
Wrong thread.
http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en
List not updated yet, but as Rafa not playing, then I think Thiem will be in 7th place with 3205 points and Cilic will be in 8th with 3090 points.
roytennisfan
30-10-2016, 16:51
http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en
List not updated yet, but as Rafa not playing, then I think Thiem will be in 7th place with 3205 points and Cilic will be in 8th with 3090 points.
It is impossible for Berdy to qualify unless he makes SF or better in Paris and he is due to meet Andy in QF ......LOL
Anyone going to miss him not being there?
roytennisfan
30-10-2016, 16:54
World Tour Finals Qualification Cut - Nadal out 3565
7 Rafael Nadal 30.4 ESP1 3300 - - - - - -
8 Dominic Thiem 23.1 AUT1 3215 - +10 Paris R32 Lost in Vienna R16 3295 4205
9 Marin Cilic 28 CRO1 3100 +2 +510 Paris R32 Basel W 3180 4090
10 Tomas Berdych 31.1 CZE1 2890 -1 +10 Paris R32 Lost in Vienna R32 2970 3880
11 David Goffin 25.8 BEL1 2700 -1 +10 Paris R32 Lost in Basel R16 2780 3690
Fill your boots with scenarios. ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwCAuROXgAAsmYi.jpg
themass15
30-10-2016, 19:07
Really hope someone makes it other that Cilic. Looks like Thiem should qualify though.
Happy to see Thiem there - would rather it wasn't Cilic. I was still hopeful for Goffin but that seems less and less likely, unless Monfils doesn't recover in time.
themass15
30-10-2016, 19:11
How fit is Raonic I wonder?
tennis890
30-10-2016, 22:22
It is impossible for Berdy to qualify unless he makes SF or better in Paris and he is due to meet Andy in QF ......LOL
Anyone going to miss him not being there?
I'd personally prefer Berdych to qualify instead of Cilic!
themass15
31-10-2016, 08:32
I'd personally prefer Berdych to qualify instead of Cilic!
You and me both.
sir coolerking
31-10-2016, 14:02
Apart from the likely Cilic/Goffin last 16 meeting, the other key match up is a potential QF between Nishikori and Raonic. Should they meet, the result will decide whether they are seeded 4 or 5 in London. On current form, I'd like Nishikori to be 4 to help prevent the groups becoming uneven. At the moment there is a potential for Andy to draw Wawrinka, Nishikori and Cilic - less than ideal!! A group with Raonic, Monfils and Thiem looking less tough.
roytennisfan
31-10-2016, 14:17
How fit is Raonic I wonder?
Unfortunately think someone dropping out is the only way Goff can qualify
tennis890
01-11-2016, 14:16
http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/article/553/10030677/atp-world-tour-finals-2016-schedule-order-of-play-results-group-standings
Says on this link that the draw will take place on Monday the 7th at 3pm. Hopefully oop will announced soon after :)
(Got everything crossed that Andy will be Sunday afternoon)
WimbledonWestie
01-11-2016, 18:37
That seems really early!
themass15
01-11-2016, 20:27
http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/article/553/10030677/atp-world-tour-finals-2016-schedule-order-of-play-results-group-standings
Says on this link that the draw will take place on Monday the 7th at 3pm. Hopefully oop will announced soon after :)
(Got everything crossed that Andy will be Sunday afternoon)
You and me both!
Josephine
01-11-2016, 22:58
That seems really early!
It's only the 2 groups first.
WimbledonWestie
02-11-2016, 07:45
I know - but last year they did it in the Thursday night. Maybe they want more time to promote the matches and sell any left over tickets.
sir coolerking
02-11-2016, 07:53
If they wanted to sell the tickets better then they should outline the schedule for the whole week and not leave people waiting for initial results. Putting the big names on in the afternoon would also boost that audience whilst more people can make it to the evening sessions after work.
But to be honest, it's not like you ever see large swathes of empty seats anyway.
themass15
02-11-2016, 08:43
If they wanted to sell the tickets better then they should outline the schedule for the whole week and not leave people waiting for initial results. Putting the big names on in the afternoon would also boost that audience whilst more people can make it to the evening sessions after work.
But to be honest, it's not like you ever see large swathes of empty seats anyway.
I have seen large numbers of empty seats in the afternoon when a big name hasn't been playing, especially in the early part of the week.
tennis890
03-11-2016, 13:19
Cilic has now qualified..... :whistle:
themass15
03-11-2016, 13:33
Boo his boo! Do hope he is NOT playing on Sunday afternoon!!!!!!!!
LC the fan
03-11-2016, 14:24
I'm with the 'Andy on Sunday' voters because we are going on Tuesday. To be honest I have my doubts if Raonic will be there - he certainly doesn't look too fit at the moment and has just gone a set down.
I do hope Andy doesn't get Wawrinka in his group
Raonic, would be nice, Nishikori rather than Stan and I'd love to see him play Monfils.
I think the Birdman can still overtake Theim
I'm with the 'Andy on Sunday' voters because we are going on Tuesday. To be honest I have my doubts if Raonic will be there - he certainly doesn't look too fit at the moment and has just gone a set down.
I do hope Andy doesn't get Wawrinka in his group
Raonic, would be nice, Nishikori rather than Stan and I'd love to see him play Monfils.
I think the Birdman can still overtake Theim
Maybe you check in on that match now.....
Sallydaisy
03-11-2016, 15:00
Raonic took the 2nd set 6'1, having lost the first 4'6, and is now serving at 3'2 in the 3rd with a break.
It probs took him a while to adjust to Court 1 which has a unique quality.
;)
themass15
03-11-2016, 17:04
That is a funny Court looks likes somewhere they forgot and no double No. 2 Court is like that as well.
The 8 double's teams are now confirmed. Good to see John Peers has qualified again.
Herbert & Mahut
Murray & Soares
Bryan & Bryan
Lopez & Lopez
Dodig & Melo
Klaasen & Ram
Kontinen & Peers
Mirnyi & Huey
themass15
03-11-2016, 19:51
I am pleased Max Mirnyi has got in again. Also good to see it is with Kontinen who Heather won the Mixed Doubles with at Wimbledon.
roytennisfan
03-11-2016, 20:09
Cilic has now gone above Thiem and is all but qualified
Only Berdych or Tsonga can overtake Thiem for the final place and Nishikori has just bagled Tsonga so he needs a massive recovery (and the smaller matter of winning the Tournament). Berdych needs to beat both Simon and Andy to go above Thiem and qualify
themass15
03-11-2016, 20:16
Cilic has already been confirmed as qualified. Would rather it had been Berdych and Thiem. Can't stand Cilic.
Nishikori losing to Tsonga means he drops to #5 in the rankings and Raonic will be the fourth seed in London.
Sallydaisy
04-11-2016, 21:03
Berdych's loss means he can't overtake Thiem and will be the reserve at the ATP Tour Finals.
Field of 8:
Djokovic
Murray
Wawrinka
Raonic
Nishikori
Monfils
Cilic
Thiem
Well done to Monfils for making it for the first time in his career and Thiem for breaking into that elite group.
roytennisfan
04-11-2016, 21:11
Of course if there is a home winner in Paris, then Tsonga will be in and Thiem will be reserve...I don't expect that to happen either, but he can still qualify as of now
roytennisfan
04-11-2016, 22:43
Tsonga lost to Raonic, so the list above is confirmed
Domi is so polite and thankful. :thumbup:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwdRsvgXUAAoj61.jpg
goldfish
05-11-2016, 07:58
So the draw is at 3pm on the 7th and the 2 groups have names:
Group A John McEnroe
Group B Ivan Lendl
So, as the number 1 player, does that automatically put Andy in Group A or are players 1 and 2 drawn too? Funny if Andy is not in Ivan's group.
They probably named the groups that way thinking that Andy would be number 2.
WimbledonWestie
05-11-2016, 08:37
I think 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8 are drawn from separate pots to split them so Andy could end up in either group. Emphasis on think!
sir coolerking
05-11-2016, 10:24
A win for Cilic today will take him to 6th and ahead of Monfils - which would probably make for a more balanced groupings.
Sallydaisy
05-11-2016, 16:12
from twitter
Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser) 47m47 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/794923180175622144) Many year-end No 1 scenarios but if Murray wins Paris: - Murray No 1 if he wins London - Djokovic No 1 if he wins London with 2 group wins
david1610
05-11-2016, 16:15
Raonic dropped out of the match in Paris with Andy with a grade 1 muscle tear. This is the mildest form (looked it up).
Do any medical members know if he will have to drop out of the finals or will play or not really sure?
If so, does that mean Berdych is back in?
Raonic dropped out of the match in Paris with Andy with a grade 1 muscle tear. This is the mildest form (looked it up).
Do any medical members know if he will have to drop out of the finals or will play or not really sure?
If so, does that mean Berdych is back in?
In his press conference Raonic said he was told the recovery period was 5-10 days so "I'm on the borderline" for playing in London and Berdych would replace him if he withdrew.
tennis890
06-11-2016, 07:44
Wonder if the oop will be announced after the draw tomorrow? I'm so nervous to find out. :nailbiter: I would have been disappointed if we had picked the wrong day (again) but will be even more so now he has got to number 1. SURELY they will schedule him for Sunday afternoon
Some suggestion in the Guardian comments section that Djokovic's arm injury (first I have heard of it), means he might pull out of the O2.
Would be totally ok with him pulling out to get his arm injury/head sorted, and swapping him and Raonic for Berdych and Tsonga. If he did pull out that surely guarantees Murray as Year End No 1?
Probably wishful thinking.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/05/andy-murray-becomes-tennis-world-no1-milos-raonic-walkover-paris?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Look at the comments in order of newest - one by Oceanfan19 suggests it.
.............. interesting! When he lost to Cilic, the thought went through my mind that Djoko would either come out firing at the WTF, to make sure that he finished as the year end number one or he would withdraw with an injury - go home and try to get his mind in the right place for next season. It seems to me that he needs a complete break away from tennis, He really does appear to be burnt out at the moment - not surprising really as he's carried the pressure of being number one for such a long time. It must be so difficult when everyone expects you to win every match and you're always the hunted. Andy's not been in this position before and, although he's always had the pressure of being the great hope of British tennis, it will be interesting to see how he copes with it. Knowing our Andy though, he'll probably take it in his stride!
I suspect in Andy's case attaining#1 is more important than retaining it.
As for Nole, he spent such a lot of physical and mental effort keeping up his form to get that last elusive slam that I'm not surprised he's hit a slump. I can sort of relate to him because of my new hips. I spent 3 years "getting on with it " through a lot of pain. Then in the months following the second replacement, when all was fine and I was pain free, I felt myself sinking and I've recently ended up on the good old "happy pills". I think all my strength had been drained and I can imagine it's similar for Nole.
@ Pabbers - I would agree with you. Short of inserting his racquet into the umpire's nether regions today he will be confirmed as No 1 tomorrow. He will have that on his record as long as there are tennis records. I don't think he expected to get it this week, so I imagine he and his team immediately changed the goal posts to having it at the end of the year.
People keeping going, then crashing when everything is all over is very common I believe. The number of women, (particularly), who coped with the horrors of WW2, only to have their breakdowns once it was all over is well documented I think.
roytennisfan
06-11-2016, 13:01
Some suggestion in the Guardian comments section that Djokovic's arm injury (first I have heard of it), means he might pull out of the O2.
Would be totally ok with him pulling out to get his arm injury/head sorted, and swapping him and Raonic for Berdych and Tsonga. If he did pull out that surely guarantees Murray as Year End No 1?
Probably wishful thinking.
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/05/andy-murray-becomes-tennis-world-no1-milos-raonic-walkover-paris?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Look at the comments in order of newest - one by Oceanfan19 suggests it.
Isn't Goffin above Tsonga so he would be in if 2 withdrew, would be great if he got on court in London
Raonic dropped out of the match in Paris with Andy with a grade 1 muscle tear. This is the mildest form (looked it up).
Do any medical members know if he will have to drop out of the finals or will play or not really sure?
If so, does that mean Berdych is back in?
Marcus on sky sports said that raonic had headed back to Canada but was still planning on travelling to London but it seemed like a long way to go to come back. As Berdy is first alternate he'll be in with no raonic. I'm crossing everything for milos to be healthy and make it to London.
WimbledonWestie
06-11-2016, 21:27
I thought that was a strange thing to do too.
Also is there any word on monfils? Has he recovered since he pulled out of Paris?
I have got to be honest, given the way Raonic took Tsonga apart I wasn't convinced that withdrawing from the semi wasn't a simple case of "funk" with Raonic. He is still young, and lives in Monte Carlo. He might just have wanted to have an excuse to go home to Canada. Perhaps after Queens and Wimbledon, he couldn't face another mauling at Murrays hands? Those loses must still sting. It must be easy to convince yourself that a little niggle is a bit more. It's also the end of a long season fir him as well. He must be getting tired.
tennis890
06-11-2016, 23:28
http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com/en/schedule
Will be constantly refreshing this page after the draw tomorrow afternoon! I do hope they announce the schedule soon after. Can't stand the waiting and hoping :nailbiter:
I will be smiling from tomorrow until next Sunday if I see Andys name down for Sunday afternoon
tennis890
07-11-2016, 10:11
What time is the draw?
3pm :)
I read it starts at 3pm and lasts for about twenty minutes.
It seems that if Raonic withdraws after the draw is made, there wouldn't be a re-draw and Berdych would replace him in the fourth seeded position.
I think a pleasing draw for Andy would be Raonic, Monfils & Thiem.
I have got to be honest, given the way Raonic took Tsonga apart I wasn't convinced that withdrawing from the semi wasn't a simple case of "funk" with Raonic. He is still young, and lives in Monte Carlo. He might just have wanted to have an excuse to go home to Canada. Perhaps after Queens and Wimbledon, he couldn't face another mauling at Murrays hands? Those loses must still sting. It must be easy to convince yourself that a little niggle is a bit more. It's also the end of a long season fir him as well. He must be getting tired.
Don't forget cincy?
LC the fan
07-11-2016, 14:13
It seems that if Raonic withdraws after the draw is made, there wouldn't be a re-draw and Berdych would replace him in the fourth seeded position.
I think a pleasing draw for Andy would be Raonic, Monfils & Thiem.
My choice exactly - lets leave Stan, Kei and Marin to Novak :laugh:
You can only hope.......
jackie55
07-11-2016, 14:37
Is the draw shown on TV ?
Yesterday
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwnJdtGXcAAJFVQ.jpg
Today Andy is in his rightful place. ;)
https://s14.postimg.org/5x3n1fmip/Vdbls2.png
Live link here although not available yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9isyH_NtWE
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:01
Still waiting
Periscope link is working.
https://www.periscope.tv/TennisTV/1mnGejEVjBnJX
I clicked on it and got 'the uploader has not made this video available'.
Doubles draw.
Herbert/Mahut
Lopez/Lopez
Kontinen/Peers
Klaasen/Ram
Murray/Soares
Bryan/Bryan
Dodig/Melo
Huey/Mirnyi
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:06
Yep Andy in the Mac group
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:06
with Stan
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:07
and Nishikori
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:08
and Cilic WORST POSSIBLE GROUP
No breaks for Andy.
McEnroe Group
Murray
Wawrinka
Nishikori
Cilic
Lendl Group
Djokovic
Raonic
Monfils
Thiem
Well this will be a real test of where he's at.
Raonic likely to be replaced by Berdych, Monfils is coming off an injury and Thiem is running on fumes and yet some will say Andy has an easy draw. :rolleyes:
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:13
Think Andy down to earth a bit with that draw
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwqyCRBXUAAxXis.jpg
Surprised Domi isn't speaking from a tennis court somewhere, I'm sure there's a challenger he could be playing. ;)
Nobody beats Raonic 8 times, Monfils 14 times, Theim 4 times in a row.....
Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser
Novak Djokovic's head-to-head records against his group opponents:
Raonic - 7-0
Monfils - 13-0
Thiem - 3-0
Let's go Andy Let's go. you are the champ. You don't need any favours you're strong enough to beat anyone of them.:thumbup::thumbup: There's no bad worse or worst draw. these are top guys.
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:22
Andy playing Monday, evening v cilic
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:23
Jamie Sunday evening
Sunday
2pm: Djokovic v Thiem
8pm: Raonic v Monfils
Monday
2pm: Wawrinka v Nishikori
8pm: Andy v Cilic
Thanks for the link, Bardot. Andy isn't playing until Monday evening against Cilic.
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:24
Novak on Sunday afternoon
Sallydaisy
07-11-2016, 15:26
From twitter (the ATP website H2H seems to have stopped working for now!)
Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/795646192461971456)
Novak Djokovic's head-to-head records against his group opponents:
Raonic - 7-0
Monfils - 13-0
Thiem - 3-0
RosieBear
07-11-2016, 15:27
and Cilic WORST POSSIBLE GROUP
Why do you think that Roy? Andy dismantled Stan on clay at the French Open this year, even though Stanimal loves a slow court. Andy also has a good h2h with Kei and Marin; as I recall both have only ever managed to get the better of Andy when he was exhausted (e.g. Kei at O2 2014; Marin Cincy this year).
I'm totally happy with the draw. As Rouges said, only the top guys here so no easy route, but Andy has the beating of them all - he ain't no 1 for nothing! :)
Djokovic has got the easy draw, but Nishikori, Cillic and Warwrinka are well within his capabilities if he isn't completely knackered.
Warwrinka 9:7
Nishikori 7:2
Murray v Cillic 11:3
I would expect him to beat Nishikori and Cillic without any real problem. With Warwrinka it depends which Warwrinka turns up. The H2H are also skewed by 2014, when he was returning.
He is assured of No 1 for 2 weeks. He didn't really expect to get it until next year. Let's have faith.
Aaaaah - if Andy had stayed at World no2, wouldn't he have had Nole's draw?
Mind you, Andy won Olympics and Wimbledon for the first time when he had difficult draws.
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:37
Why do you think that Roy? Andy dismantled Stan on clay at the French Open this year, even though Stanimal loves a slow court. Andy also has a good h2h with Kei and Marin; as I recall both have only ever managed to get the better of Andy when he was exhausted (e.g. Kei at O2 2014; Marin Cincy this year).
I'm totally happy with the draw. As Rouges said, only the top guys here so no easy route, but Andy has the beating of them all - he ain't no 1 for nothing! :)
I said it because all of the alternative options are all definitely easier imho Raonic/Berdych than Stan, Monfils to Nishikori and Thiem to Cillic
I didn't say he couldn't beat them but they are all to me the toughest options, all his opponents must be thinking this is a tough group which may help Andy
tennis890
07-11-2016, 15:37
So happy! Got tickets for 2 sessions and will be watching Djokovic v Thiem and more importantly Andy v Cilic :yahoo: Cannot believe I've picked the right session for a change! Wasn't expecting him to play in the evening!
The only downside is that we are lower level for Sunday and higher level for Andys match (although we are right at the bottom of the top tier so its not too bad)
Whoever thinks that Gael is a pushover hasn't seen him play this year, in 5 sets may be Nole has the edge but not in 3 and that goes for Milos with that massive serves. Hopefully he is fully recovered from his recent leg injury. I give Nole the edge on Thiem as he has not done so well, he only got through by default with Rafa withdrawing.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:41
So happy! Got tickets for 2 sessions and will be watching Djokovic v Thiem and more importantly Andy v Cilic :yahoo: Cannot believe I've picked the right session for a change! Wasn't expecting him to play in the evening!
The only downside is that we are lower level for Sunday and higher level for Andys match (although we are right at the bottom of the top tier so its not too bad)
I thought of you when Andy went to Monday and was saying not afternoon and he wasn't, I have all 4 bases so wasn't worried myself
I am still not convinced that Djokovic is going to turn up.
Josephine
07-11-2016, 15:42
Djokovic has all the players I wanted Andy to get.
Cilic and Nishikori beat Andy last time out. Stan has beaten Andy in loads of big matches.
Djoko is laughing - easier group by far.
I am still not convinced that Djokovic is going to turn up.
He will after he sees that draw. ;)
tennis890
07-11-2016, 15:44
I thought of you when Andy went to Monday and was saying not afternoon and he wasn't, I have all 4 bases so wasn't worried myself
Ahhh yeah, no need to worry with all 4 sessions, hope you have a fab time :boogie:
I feel like a child on Christmas morning :dance:
Why wouldn't he ? He would want to reclaim the #1 which is possible if he wins it again, I hope not and Andy wins it.:thumbup:
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 15:51
I think Milos will like that draw, will make him think twice about withdrawing
Why do you think that Roy? Andy dismantled Stan on clay at the French Open this year, even though Stanimal loves a slow court. Andy also has a good h2h with Kei and Marin; as I recall both have only ever managed to get the better of Andy when he was exhausted (e.g. Kei at O2 2014; Marin Cincy this year).
I'm totally happy with the draw. As Rouges said, only the top guys here so no easy route, but Andy has the beating of them all - he ain't no 1 for nothing! :)
I did just say to yellowlivi on text that I think kei is a better draw than monfil. I watched that match live last year between Andy and kei and Andy was far from his best. Kei didn't get a lot better from that match. He has played a lot and had a lot of issues. He seems to be low on confidence. I know monfils withdrew from Paris but I think it was to nurse and niggle and ensure he would be in the best shape for London. On a big stage monfils is exactly the guy to throw you off your game. There wasn't going to be an easy draw, and I do believe that Murray is better than the other 7 guys so I don't think it matters too much.
I am amazed how people still doubt Andy's ability after all he has achieved in his career. Huh !!!!! there's no answer to it.:facepalm::facepalm: I believe :thumbup:
LC the fan
07-11-2016, 15:55
My choice exactly - lets leave Stan, Kei and Marin to Novak :laugh:
You can only hope.......
Didn't I put the curse on things ?? Definitely the worse possible draw....but then we have often said on here that Andy does better with a rough draw. And the others will be fired up each thinking that they stand a good chance in the weaker group.... And it is the weaker group whatever we tell ourselves
But then, we have the strongest player. It is what it is
Sallydaisy
07-11-2016, 16:00
Andy's H2H v his group opponents:
Cilic 11-3
Stan 9-7 (that's the dodgy one, but Stan hasn't been as sharp of late ...)
Kei 7-2
RosieBear
07-11-2016, 16:05
It is what it is
No truer words spoken. It ain't changing with any amount of griping, Andy won't waste his time and energy bleating, will just get on with the job. Pound them all Andy, you're the man, and I know you'll be year end no 1 :superman::tennis::cheer:
Djokovic has all the players I wanted Andy to get.
Cilic and Nishikori beat Andy last time out. Stan has beaten Andy in loads of big matches.
Djoko is laughing - easier group by far.
Yes Djokovic has the easiest draw on paper, but this is the man who has been beaten recently by Querry, Cillic, and Bautista Agut - all of whom Murray beats easily. Djokovic's confidence must be rock bottom at the moment. People are going to go out to play him thinking they have got a real chance. I am not one whit worried by Nishikori, or Cillic - they beat Murray when he is completely exhausted. They don't beat him when he is not completely wrecked. It's the end of a long season for all the players. I imagine that will impact on them even more than Murray. When Murray's head is in the right place, which it is at the moment I think he will be ok against Warwrinka.
Murray has just won 4 tournaments back to back - if he doesn't win this one, so be it. As far as I am concerned the rankings came out today, with Murray at the top. Nobody can ever take that away from him. He has no stress about when, and if it might happen now. He will forever be a former No 1, just like he will be a double Olympic Gold Medalist, and Double Wimbledon Champ. That must take a heck of a weight of his mind. It will be great if he ends the year as No 1, but I doubt anyone is truly expecting it. He will get it back next year if he does lose it. He has had a couple of strokes of luck recently, with Cillic doing the unthinkable, and getting two Walkovers when he was tired. It evens out.
Looking at him in the pics in the press, he is happy and relaxed, pumped up with his achievements. That's all I want for him.
Josephine
07-11-2016, 16:23
To repost
Novak Djokovic's head-to-head records against his group opponents:
Raonic - 7-0
Monfils - 13-0
Thiem - 3-0
Djoko now has motivation too. No longer the hunted but the hunter - so pressure off. And if Berdy replaces Raonic even easier for Djoko.
I think you have to also look at Andy's game and it does match up better against some players than others and personally I'm finding Cilic, Nishikori and Wawa not the best match up for him.
Sure he will do well - was just the exact 3 players I was dreading he would have in his group.
angiebabez
07-11-2016, 16:28
Aaaaah - if Andy had stayed at World no2, wouldn't he have had Nole's draw?
Mind you, Andy won Olympics and Wimbledon for the first time when he had difficult draws.
Would you rather he had stayed no2?? Lol
Sallydaisy
07-11-2016, 16:35
Nobody beats Raonic 8 times, Monfils 14 times, Thiem 4 times in a row.....
But it could be Berdych instead of Raonic ... and if that's the case the ATP would need to have Goffin along as 9th man AND probably put JWT on standby just in case!!!!!
TheHippyJesus
07-11-2016, 16:36
If Andy had the easier draw and he ended up finishing number one, people would complain that it was because of the draw. At least with this draw, if he does keep the number one ranking, it will be clear that it was well deserved.
I did just say to yellowlivi on text that I think kei is a better draw than monfil. I watched that match live last year between Andy and kei and Andy was far from his best. Kei didn't get a lot better from that match. He has played a lot and had a lot of issues. He seems to be low on confidence. I know monfils withdrew from Paris but I think it was to nurse and niggle and ensure he would be in the best shape for London. On a big stage monfils is exactly the guy to throw you off your game. There wasn't going to be an easy draw, and I do believe that Murray is better than the other 7 guys so I don't think it matters too much.
I don't think we can judge anything on Andy's play at the o2 last year. Cast your mind back...Davis Cup and Ghent. We were all actually hoping he would exit early from the WTF and Andy himself talked about withdrawing but couldn't really as it is mandatory. He definitely had one eye on Ghent this time last year.
Not the easiest draw but Andy is number 1 for a reason. I wouldn't mind betting that Stan, Kei and Marin are not particularly happy about being in Andy's group.
lovetennis
07-11-2016, 18:06
I don't think we can judge anything on Andy's play at the o2 last year. Cast your mind back...Davis Cup and Ghent. We were all actually hoping he would exit early from the WTF and Andy himself talked about withdrawing but couldn't really as it is mandatory. He definitely had one eye on Ghent this time last year.
I agree Pat, Andy didn't really want to even be at the O2 last year, plus I think he was starting to lose confidence in the partnership with Mauresmo around that time. This year is completely different, he is settled with his team and knows the O2 is the end of his season so can go all out. Cilic faces the same dilemma Andy had last year and will have one eye on the DC final. It's hard to know which Stan will turn up so that's a variable Andy will have to cope with. Andy has a good record against Kei apart from the USO this year, but Andy was shattered after the Olympics. I still feel confident that Andy can get through them
It's a bit of an insult to the world #1 to suggest he might struggle in his group. Implies he's not worthy of his ranking. Can't think anyone doubted Nole's ability to beat anyone when at his peak. Plus Andy is not going to be found wanting in the motivation department.
Josephine
07-11-2016, 18:23
Nole's group is easier - that is all.
His opponents are ranked 4,6 & 9. Raonic is injured. Monfils is a head case and Thiem is still a baby. 1 slam finalist
Andy's opponents are ranked 3,5 & 7. 2 slam winners and a slam finalist.
I rest my case.
Most definitely Andy's group is the harder group but we know that Andy can beat anyone and his opponents know that too. As for last year's 02, Andy practised on clay before it which pretty much negated any hope of success. The year before he was absolutely cream crackered after putting all his energies into actually getting there. Another year he was injured and had to retire and yet another year I'm convinced that Fed engineered it so that Andy wouldn't qualify for the semis. He hasn't had the best of luck in the past but this year will be Andy's year!
And there was the year they announced his split from Kim which must have had an effect.
Andy's comments about previous WTFs. Let's hope they do a "Paris" to the courts this year.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwqmfXJXUAAxWVv.jpg
lovetennis
07-11-2016, 19:50
Anyway I've got a ticket to the Final so Andy HAS to get through :p
roytennisfan
07-11-2016, 20:15
The court has always been on the slow side for Andy but take positives by looking at his last two years on slow clay courts, the fantastic level of improvement, Andy was a player who only had one victory previously over a top10 player on clay (and that was Davydenko who hated clay). Don't think he liked the slow Rio court, but he won ..didn't he!
I don't think we can judge anything on Andy's play at the o2 last year. Cast your mind back...Davis Cup and Ghent. We were all actually hoping he would exit early from the WTF and Andy himself talked about withdrawing but couldn't really as it is mandatory. He definitely had one eye on Ghent this time last year.
That's exactly my point. I don't think it is relevant.
roytennisfan
08-11-2016, 18:16
tuart Fraser @stu_fraser 18m18 minutes ago
Stuart Fraser Retweeted ATP World Tour
Late deal agreed between ATP & BBC. Tennis wasn't initially on BBC Two schedule for Sunday. Will show afternoon matches, one semi and final.
I don't know what Stuart Fraser is talking about, as I've known since yesterday about BBC 2 would be showing the World Tour Finals on Sunday and beyond.
I did read, earlier, the BBC will be showing it next year as well.
roytennisfan
08-11-2016, 19:13
They must have jumped the gun on the listing then, not announced until today
ATP AND BBC EXTEND BROADCAST DEAL FOR A FURTHER THREE YEARS
The ATP and BBC have today announced an extension to their broadcast deal for the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals, which will see the tournament broadcast from The O2 in London from 2016-2018.
The deal is for non-exclusive TV and full radio commentary rights, and includes broadcasts of eight singles matches, on television, from the start of the tournament, including a semi-final and the final.
In addition, the BBC has secured non-exclusive rights to all ATP World Tour Masters 1000 matches for live radio and online commentary.
The Barclays ATP World Tour Finals is the climax to the men’s professional season, featuring the best eight qualified singles players and doubles teams battling it out for the last title of the season. This season’s finale will see reigning Wimbledon champion, Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic, a winner at The O2 in each of the past four years, battle it out to finish the year-end No. 1 in the Emirates ATP Rankings.
BBC Director of Sport, Barbara Slater, said, “We are delighted to extend our deal with the ATP and bring audiences closer to the action than ever before. The extension shows our longstanding commitment to ensuring top class tennis reaches the widest possible audience on free to air TV. The ATP World Tour Finals remains one of the standout moments in the sporting calendar bringing together the best players in the world to create a truly unique atmosphere.”
Chris Kermode, ATP Executive Chairman and President, added, “We’re pleased to continue our broadcast partnership with the BBC for a further three years, enabling our season-ending event to be viewed by millions of fans on terrestrial TV in the UK through to 2018. This year’s tournament looks set to produce another thrilling finish to the season, with the year-end No. 1 ranking come right down to the wire at The O2.”
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emjay1970
09-11-2016, 10:23
Hi everyone,
Just quickly I have some second row seats available for this Sunday's evening session should anyone want them. Happy to drop the price a bit as I now have something on. PM me if interested.
sir coolerking
10-11-2016, 13:52
Just seen a tweet from the ATP that Goffin is first alternate and RBA the 2nd. Does that mean Raonic has already pulled out and Berdy is in, or is Berdy out?
Berdych has confirmed he won't be taking up his position as first alternate because he has been advised to have two weeks off before the hospital decides what path they want to take regarding his appendix
Sallydaisy
10-11-2016, 14:10
Just seen a tweet from the ATP that Goffin is first alternate and RBA the 2nd. Does that mean Raonic has already pulled out and Berdy is in, or is Berdy out?
Berdych has confirmed he won't be taking up his position as first alternate because he has been advised to have two weeks off before the hospital decides what path they want to take regarding his appendix
ATP Race to London says:
Tomas BerdychMisses in '16 after 6 straight appearances
Sallydaisy
10-11-2016, 15:17
Someone else tweets:
josemorgado 2h2 hours ago (https://twitter.com/josemorgado/status/796697339184418816) Tomas Berdych and Jo-Wilfried Tsonga refused to be alternates for the ATP Finals. Goffin and Bautista Agut are the ATL.
RosieBear
10-11-2016, 15:33
Sorry for Berdy to miss out after many years of consistency, but happy Goffin is first alternate, he's just lovely. I'll never wish bad luck or injury on any player, but if Raonic doesn't feel up to playing, his spot couldn't go to a nicer player/guy......
Agreed RB I do love Goffin :) link to berdy's post https://www.facebook.com/tomasberdych/posts/1269108936486219
roytennisfan
10-11-2016, 17:51
Stan, only 5 matches v top10! When Andy lost to Cilic he was not top10, Cilic 5-0 on hard courts lost to Stan(clay), Andy, Roger (grass) much more of a threat than Nishikori
Year-to-Date vs. Top 10
Player Record Index
Novak Djokovic 18-3 .857
Andy Murray 11-5 .688
Marin Cilic 6-3 .667
Milos Raonic 6-7 .462
Stan Wawrinka 2-3 .400
Dominic Thiem 4-7 .364
Kei Nishikori 4-10 .286
Gael Monfils 2-5 .286
roytennisfan
10-11-2016, 18:39
Good News, Goffin is 1st alternative, would love to see him get on court in London
We Are Tennis Retweeted
ATP World Tour @ATPWorldTour 6h6 hours ago
#ATPFinals: 1st alternate @David__Goffin, 2nd alternate @BautistaAgut, doubles alternates @juanscabal/@RobertFarah_.
angiebabez
10-11-2016, 20:57
Pics from launch night at the cutty sark
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Soooooooooo good to see Andy in his rightful place!
"What kept you?" ;) The return of Mr Lendl.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw_d3buWQAAOowC.jpg
roytennisfan
11-11-2016, 17:55
Good news about the court...it's been made faster
Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser 39m39 minutes ago
Court looking good at the O2. Good move to speed it up. #ATPFinals
banskogirl
11-11-2016, 18:50
"What kept you?" ;) The return of Mr Lendl.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw_d3buWQAAOowC.jpg
Love these two! They are both so dry that they could have people in stitches on the edges of this pic!
There's live streaming from practice court 2.
Saturday 12 November Practice Court 2 Schedule:
10:00 - Kei Nishikori
11:00 - Stan Wawrinka + Gaël Monfils
12:00 - Novak Djokovic + David Goffin
13:30 - Marin Čilić + Dominic Thiem
14:00 - Andy Murray
15:00 - Raven Klaasen + Rajeev Ram
16:00 - Andy Murray + Coach
17:30 - Henri Kontinen + John Peers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibaYWhji_fY
Goffin is on the practice list, but not Raonic; Goffin has a moustache?
So is Goffin replacing Raonic or is Djoko using him as a hitting partner?
Raonic played a practice set earlier with Nishikori on the main show court but didn't turn up for his scheduled practice on court 1.
Wawrinka was wearing strapping on his left knee during his practice.
roytennisfan
12-11-2016, 15:19
See Andy had a go at lobbing Goffin almost a year on from....
themass15
12-11-2016, 15:48
Looking forward to going tomorrow and very disappointed Andy isn't playing. Me going for Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday has backfired. Will mix it up next year, assuming I can go!
Looking forward to going tomorrow and very disappointed Andy isn't playing. Me going for Sunday, Tuesday and Thursday has backfired. Will mix it up next year, assuming I can go!
Always pays to go 2 consecutive days if you're going for more than 1. That way you see everyone.
themass15
12-11-2016, 16:11
Trouble is I don't like going two full days on the trot but I could always do Monday and Thursday!
Trouble is I don't like going two full days on the trot but I could always do Monday and Thursday!
Yes that would work. Can't believe my luck that I'm going just the one day this year and it's Monday.
themass15
12-11-2016, 16:40
Yes that would work. Can't believe my luck that I'm going just the one day this year and it's Monday.
Well done and 3 great players to see
tennis890
12-11-2016, 18:44
Cannot believe it has come round so quick! We are catching the train down from Yorkshire in the morning. Looking forward to Djokovic and Thiem tomorrow and then of course the highlight of my 3 days in London, watching Andy on monday evening :yahoo:
Have an amazing time everyone thats going! :cheer:
Yes that would work. Can't believe my luck that I'm going just the one day this year and it's Monday.
Wow - that's lucky! I hope everyone who's going has a great time - I'll be glued to the TV for a week. :GBflag:
supergran
12-11-2016, 20:57
Hope everyone who is going this year has a wonderful time. If you're one of the lucky ones seeing Andy please give an extra loud "Come on Andy" for me.:thumbup::cheer:
themass15
12-11-2016, 21:33
No mention on Gael Monfils for the practice session tomorrow.
Oh dear - maybe he's out and Goffin is in as he practised today.
WimbledonWestie
12-11-2016, 23:29
Hope everyone who is going this year has a wonderful time. If you're one of the lucky ones seeing Andy please give an extra loud "Come on Andy" for me.:thumbup::cheer:
I have at least 50%chance of seeing Andy as he will play Friday- I'll see him if he's on at night. Of course I really hope to be seeing him Saturday!
I've just seen the clip of all the players trying to be mannequins on the BBC website. I could see the "selfie" camera shaking in Andy's hand before they all came together to do that photo.
roytennisfan
13-11-2016, 08:45
Yes on the train now, I saw it yesterday from twitter link
dewster99
13-11-2016, 08:47
is there coverage elsewhere seen as bbc only show the afternoon session. I will miss Andy partially as I have tennis on Mondays and Wednesdays for that matter
Silverdee
13-11-2016, 09:19
It's on Sky.
WimbledonWestie
13-11-2016, 09:19
Sky show all the matches
angiebabez
13-11-2016, 11:55
I have at least 50%chance of seeing Andy as he will play Friday- I'll see him if he's on at night. Of course I really hope to be seeing him Saturday!
And sunday for moi.?
patmoren
13-11-2016, 11:59
TennisTV have full coverage
WimbledonWestie
13-11-2016, 12:08
And sunday for moi.?
Yes I hope to be travelling nervously to the airport and biting my nails in the departure lounge!
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 14:09
Come on Domi. No doubt who I'm supporting in this one
First medical time out for Djokovic - the poor lamb has got a blister.....
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 14:41
Quite a few UEs from Djok. So far he isn't looking his old self to me
roytennisfan
13-11-2016, 14:50
Court seems to be playing faster
roytennisfan
13-11-2016, 14:50
Close game this, another good serve by Thiem
roytennisfan
13-11-2016, 14:51
Holds 4-4
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 14:58
Court seems to be playing faster
Where you sat today Roy? Looking out for you on telly
roytennisfan
13-11-2016, 15:04
At end near to where they come in that side 107, 2nd row cos they added a row aaa.
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:12
Boris needs to give Djok some diving lessons
dewster99
13-11-2016, 15:17
I'm so angry right now. 3DFs?! Seriously?!
3 set points and Thiem bottled it. Can he take the 4th?
david1610
13-11-2016, 15:19
Cliché time but this is where you are found out at the highest level, or, kinder, your lack of experience.
dewster99
13-11-2016, 15:21
this TB is all Thiem. He's winning it and losing it
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:23
Come on Domiiiiii
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:23
:thumbup: at laaaasssstttttt
On the 7th set point he finally takes it. I suspect Mr M would not have been so forgiving.
david1610
13-11-2016, 15:25
Well that is good news whatever else happens because as we all know, in a round robin sets lost can come in to play!
dewster99
13-11-2016, 15:26
YES!! I'm at work so could only watch in my lunch break. Think my data might stretch for a bit on my phone
david1610
13-11-2016, 15:26
Surely it would have added more spice to have called the groups the Ivan Lendl group and the Boris Becker group! ;)
And as sure as eggs are eggs I bet he gets broken now.
JAMES4578
13-11-2016, 15:27
Dramatic breaker and whilst Thiem seemed to blow a few chances got there in the end, great stuff! Better match than I was expecting due to Dominic's recent form and the court surface.
Double break for Djokovic. I wonder if Thiem will get another game?
JAMES4578
13-11-2016, 15:37
Thiem falling away here as Djokovic has double break,hopefully he can get back back on track for 3rd and at least put some pressure on again!
dewster99
13-11-2016, 15:38
be good if he can at least wear Nole down a bit. If Monfils and Raonic are fully fit they could mount a more experienced challenge
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:40
Yeah pretty safe to say this set's a goner. Domi needs to pull himself together for the 3rd. Still think Djok is making more errors than in the past. Still not at the top of his game
david1610
13-11-2016, 15:41
We can hope that he has the sense to realise the third set is a one set shoot out! ;)
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:42
Bagel on the menu?
dewster99
13-11-2016, 15:48
and delivered
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:48
Domi needs a good game now
Such is the silly round-robin system that one set against Djokovic and a match win elsewhere could be enough to qualify for the semi-final.
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 15:59
Domi losing it now :sad:
JAMES4578
13-11-2016, 16:04
3-1 Djokovic and can't really see any way back for Thiem now!
It was worrying in the interview before the match, Thiem admitting he'd no game plan for playing Djokovic. He needs to have a word with Andy and take some notes on court. ;)
Djokovic was rock solid in the last two sets, very impressive. Still with the boob thrust. :facepalm:
Interview after losing??? Let's hope Andy doesn't have to endure that.
There was a depressing inevitability about that. Still let's hope that lost set becomes an issue.
If Djokovic wins his next 2 matches and without dropping a set which is doable then Thiem would have all to play for in his last match even if he loses his next one. That's what happened with Cibulkova in Singapore and she went onto win the title. Hate the RR system.
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 16:25
Djokovic was rock solid in the last two sets, very impressive. Still with the boob thrust. :facepalm:
I looked away :raspberry: but having not known what to call it before I do like "boob thrust" :rolling:
Bouncy is desperate to talk about Djokovic's "personal problems away from the court". Old gossip that he is. :big grin:
Play Leonard Cohen and have Bouncy talk all over it, that's really what Raonic wanted. :facepalm:
roytennisfan
13-11-2016, 16:48
Djokovic was rock solid in the last two sets, very impressive. Still with the boob thrust. :facepalm:
Didn't think he was that good, Dom won the tb but lost his serve there and must have a very poor sucess rate on his second serve. NOEL was not serving that good and still made some ue's.
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 16:56
Yep Djokovic won but I wasn't bowled over. Domi was inexperienced and mucked it up after playing a good first set. Djok will need to up his game against the more experienced guys
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 16:59
Didn't think he was that good, Dom won the tb but lost his serve there and must have a very poor sucess rate on his second serve. NOEL was not serving that good and still made some ue's.
More importantly though, did you feel the love when Djok did his boob thrust at you Roy? :big grin::big grin::big grin:
WimbledonWestie
13-11-2016, 17:02
Ugh! So hope I don't have the pleasure of that experience!
Didn't think he was that good, Dom won the tb but lost his serve there and must have a very poor sucess rate on his second serve. NOEL was not serving that good and still made some ue's.
Some UEs but insignificant compared to brilliant returning of serve and relentless retrieving but the huge benefit of his group is he gets to play 2 O2 virgins.
lovetennis
13-11-2016, 17:09
Ugh! So hope I don't have the pleasure of that experience!
So do I, especially as I'm only going to the final and if he's boob thrusting it'll mean he's won
Djokovic getting a hard time in his press conference. Was it a Daily Mail journo? :rolleyes:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxKCyJVW8AE_2dt.jpg
Missed that match but enjoyed all the comments. Might try to catch up with some of it later on the replay...meanwhile there is the more interesting progress of Jamie and Bruno to follow....
More importantly though, did you feel the love when Djok did his boob thrust at you Roy? :big grin::big grin::big grin:
Made me giggle!
He doesn't usually answer questions like that
Sky outing the journalist (Neil Mclennan from the Daily Mirror) who questioned Djokovic about the incident and now he's being attacked on twitter by the Nolefam(ily). Much of it along the lines of, he's a Murray fan, what do you expect? A bit like Djokovic, they're relentless. :big grin:
The journo is not helping his cause by tweeting this in reply. :big grin:
Neil McLeman Mirror @NeilMcLeman
@CristinaNcl Djokovic fans even more unhinged than him right now. And that is saying something
Clip from the press conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEhctxqM6dE
Monfils who withdrew from Paris with a rib injury just bounced off the court chest first. :facepalm: ;) He's enjoying himself even though the score suggests he shouldn't.
Josephine
13-11-2016, 20:55
Djoko stamped his authority. Thiem still a baby as I said before.
He doesn't usually answer questions like that
No, he doesn't. Djoko was clearly rattled which was obviously the object of the exercise!
On this form, I think there is every likelihood that Raonic will beat Djoko.
Monfils doing well to keep up with Raonic in the second set. Mind you I imagine it would be better for us if he wins in straight sets.
Djokovic is welcome to Raonic if he plays like this. Injury, what injury?
Tuesday's schedule:
Afternoon: Murray/Soares v Bryan/Bryan, Monfils v Thiem.
Evening: Dodig/Melo v Huey/Mirnyi, Djokovic v Raonic.
themass15
13-11-2016, 22:37
Glad I will be seeing Jamie on Tuesday and Thiem + Monfils
RoastLamb
14-11-2016, 00:07
Darn! I thought Milos would play rubbish coz of his injury and he didn't. Didn't pick him to win ANYTHING in FTM. On the other hand, am pleased that he played so well today even tho' the crowd were 99% pro Monfils.
tennis890
14-11-2016, 06:34
Was hoping Thiem might have been able to battle past Djokovic yesterday, especially after getting the first set. For an afternoon match, the atmosphere in the O2 was like an evening match and the crowd were deffo behind Dominic. Shame the last 2 sets slipped away. Also a shame that we had to endure the 'boob thurst' :laugh:
Really looking foward to seeing Andy play tonight :cheer: and hearing him being announced as world number one :cheer:
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