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Djokovic has withdrawn with an elbow injury making Andy the top seed assuming he plays.
angiebabez
28-09-2016, 15:11
Be surprised if andys not next to withdraw
themass15
28-09-2016, 15:20
We'll soon find out as he would be heading around there about now if he was playing. Still that's another 500 points off Djokovic's tally.
It's the same injury from the US. While it's sad it is certainly expected. I hope he recovers in time for Shanghai :)
Awwwh poor Joko having a terrible end of season.:superman::ill: but can't wait to see Andy and Rafa seeded 1:2
sir coolerking
28-09-2016, 16:37
If he's not fit for Beijing then you'd have to wonder about Shanghai the following week. Really hope Andy goes for it over the next few weeks, there's plenty of points grabbing opportunities.
themass15
29-09-2016, 07:40
Have seen a Chinese journalist has reported Andy will arrive in Bejing on Sunday. Presumably that means he won't have to play until Wednesday. Not sure if some of the seeds get byes in the first round.
Have seen a Chinese journalist has reported Andy will arrive in Bejing on Sunday. Presumably that means he won't have to play until Wednesday. Not sure if some of the seeds get byes in the first round.
The singles draw is 32 players so there are no byes
Sallydaisy
29-09-2016, 09:28
CHINA OPEN 2016, BEIJING
National (http://www.art.com/products/p30020758455/poster.htm?rfid=547673&utm_source=affiliate-547673&utm_campaign=CommissionJunction&utm_content=Datafeed)Tennis Centre (http://www.art.com/products/p30020758455/poster.htm?rfid=547673&utm_source=affiliate-547673&utm_campaign=CommissionJunction&utm_content=Datafeed), No.2 Lin Cui Road, Chaoyang District, Beijing, P.R. China
WEB SITE: China Open (http://www.chinaopen.com.cn/en/)
Dates: 3–9 OCTOBER, 2016 (COMBINED EVENT ATP/WTA)
Qualifying draw: Friday, September 30, 9:00 p.m.
Main draw: Saturday, October 1, 2:00 p.m.
Doubles draw: Saturday, October 1, 2:00 p.m.
32 DRAW & 16 QUALIFYING DRAW
SURFACE: HARD
BALL: HEAD ATP
ATP Ranking Points
W: 500, F: 300, SF: 180, QF: 90, R16: 45, R32: 0, Q: +20, Q8: 10, Q16: 0
Entry deadline and Ranking on August 22, 2016
Seeding based on Rankings on September 26, 2016
OUT Djokovic, Novak SRB 1
2 Murray, Andy GBR 2
3 Nadal, Rafael ESP 5
4 Raonic, Milos CAN 6
OUT Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried FRA 11
6 Ferrer, David ESP 13
7 Gasquet, Richard FRA 15
8 Bautista Agut, Roberto ESP 17
9 Tomic, Bernard AUS 19
10 Cuevas, Pablo URU 20
11 Johnson, Steve USA 21
12 Isner, John USA 22
13 Dimitrov, Grigor BUL 24
14 Pouille, Lucas FRA 26
15 Sock, Jack USA 28
16 Zverev, Alexander GER 29
17 Querrey, Sam USA 31
18 Ramos-Vinolas, Albert ESP 33
19 Troicki, Viktor SRB 35
20 Mayer, Florian GER @35
21 Fognini, Fabio ITA 38
22 Lorenzi, Paolo ITA 39
23 Garcia-Lopez, Guillermo ESP 50
24 Seppi, Andreas ITA 88
25 (Q)
26 (Q)
27 (Q)
28 (Q)
29 (WC) Thiem, Dominic
30 (WC) Lu, Rendy
31 (WC) Zhang Ze
32 (WC)
Alternates
OUT Mahut, Nicolas FRA 41
IN Kuznetsov, Andrey RUS 42
IN. Vesely, Jiri CZE 48
3. Carreno Busta, Pablo ESP 49
4. Pella, Guido ARG 51
5. Robert, Stephane FRA 52
6. Jaziri, Malek TUN 53
7. Fritz, Taylor USA 54
8. Mannarino, Adrian FRA 55
OUT Chardy, Jeremy FRA 56
9. Lajovic, Dusan SRB 60
10. Elias, Gastao POR 61
11. Bellucci, Thomaz BRA 62
12. Youzhny, Mikhail RUS 63
13. Kukushkin, Mikhail KAZ 66
------------------------------------------------------------------------
I this is currently correct.
After Tsonga withdrew his place was due to be taken by Mahut - who has now himself withdrawn to be replaced by Kuznetsov. After Djokovic's withdrawal Vesely is IN the main draw.
sir coolerking
29-09-2016, 10:28
So Thiem will actually become the number 4 seed I guess.
If he's not fit for Beijing then you'd have to wonder about Shanghai the following week. Really hope Andy goes for it over the next few weeks, there's plenty of points grabbing opportunities.
He said that he has been advised not to play and that he is continuing rehabilitation hoping to return to the tour "soon" if he is still rehabbing it then it doesn't look good for Shanghai. Perhaps he will miss the Asian swing and return in the euro indoor hard courts.
sir coolerking
29-09-2016, 11:46
You start to wonder whether he might be better off just taking a break till January. Whilst Andy and Rafa have had various injury breaks over the last few years and now Roger too, I don't recall Novak ever taking a period off. This might just be his body sending him a message.
I should hope not, I have world tour finals tickets lol. He can miss the Asian swing of he must but I'll give him a deadline of Paris to get better lol :) :)
The only time I have ever been to the WTF I saw Djoko v Berdy and it was the most boring match ever. To be fair that was in 2010 - things have changed a lot since then!
JAMES4578
29-09-2016, 21:16
Whilst ideally want all the top players there,imagine some wouldn't be too disappointed if Djokovic was out of the running-pretty sure he'll be there anyway!
themass15
29-09-2016, 21:33
Can't see Djoko missing WTF unless there really is a serious injury problem.
I, for one won't miss him at all but would miss Roger. With Andy/Wawrinka and hope Rafa/Gael qualify, enough talent there to make it exciting. let's face it Nole is anything but exciting to watch by many of us.:sleepy:
themass15
30-09-2016, 16:38
Not sure how much Stan would get the crowds in at WTF. Rafa yes and, obviously Andy. A lot of people at WTF are not ardent tennis fans like we on here are.
Stan is a likable and a good tennis player with that one-handed backhand although he isn't my favourite, would have rather seen the lethal forehand of Delpo there instead.;);)
themass15
30-09-2016, 17:24
Stan is a likable and a good tennis player with that one-handed backhand although he isn't my favourite, would have rather seen the lethal forehand of Delpo there instead.;);)
Absolutely just love watching Delpo!
LC the fan
30-09-2016, 21:28
Must say one of the tightest and enjoyable matches I have watched was Stan v Rafa. At the end of the first set tie break Stan smashed his racket but obviously wished it could have been over Rafas head. They both played so well
Andy's prospective route:
R1: Seppi
R2: Kuznetsov/Qualifier
QF: Bautista Agut
SF: Thiem/Ferrer
F: Nadal
Nadal's half of the draw is loaded, Johnson, Dimitrov, Pouille, Raonic, Gasquet....
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtqaZ25W8AAOxXy.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtqabXdWcAA3Cv4.jpg
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/beijing/747/draws
Edmund defeated Andujar 6-3 6-2 and plays donskoy in the next round.
angiebabez
02-10-2016, 08:47
Andy has arrived 1165
Edmund defeated Donskoy in the final round of quailes and has made it through to the main draw
I was disappointed that Mischa Zverev didn't make it through quailes though. He was ousted in the final round by mannarino. It was always going to be a tough match for Mischa but he had been playing so well these past few weeks that I was hopeful.
The qualifiers have been placed in the draw and Kyle meets Garcia-Lopez in the first round (fourth on Brad Drewett court tomorrow) and could be a prospective QF opponent for Andy.
JAMES4578
02-10-2016, 12:21
Great for Kyle and would say at least reasonable draw in first round,pity for Mischa but perhaps a match too far this time.
Looks like Andy went straight from the Airport and onto the practice court (same shorts ;)).
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw690/51cabfe4jw1f8e20f5zz1j22c0340u0y.jpg
themass15
02-10-2016, 14:05
Will he be playing Tues or Weds does anyone know?
Some quotes from Andy's press conference in Beijing.
“I think obviously trying to reach No. 1 is a goal...I’ve never been there, It’s something I would like to do for the first time, which is maybe more of a motivation for me than some of the guys that have been there before. I want to just try and finish this year strong from a personal point of view. It’s been my best season to date, and I want to try to finish it as best as I can,”
“I needed to take quite a few days off after the Davis Cup to try and let my injury heal and to rest. I needed a break anyway, I haven’t been able to practice as much as usual coming into an event like this, but I feel healthy. My leg feels good.”
“It was a very long summer with Cincinnati and the Olympics, and coming off Wimbledon and Queen’s as well. I played a lot of tennis. What I needed after that stretch was a break. I needed some time away from the court to rest and recover and freshen up a bit.”
“I think this week I need to be realistic with maybe how I’m going to play, but… there’s no reason why I can’t finish the year strong if I keep my body healthy, stay motivated and have a strong, strong finish to the year.”
“I have very few days of practice coming in here. I'm not putting too much pressure on myself right now. I need to get a few good days of training in here, try and get used to the conditions. If I can get through my first match or so, I'll start to feel better, then reevaluate my chances of going far in the event.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTaPBnktM40
Monday's OOP.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtxcKJzUAAA27Yd.jpg
angiebabez
02-10-2016, 19:46
Looks like Andy went straight from the Airport and onto the practice court (same shorts ;)).
http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/mw690/51cabfe4jw1f8e20f5zz1j22c0340u0y.jpg
Yeah he did...he posted on facebook that best way to beat jetlag was to get straight on the court
WimbledonWestie
02-10-2016, 19:53
Sky are showing this from tomorrow!
Andy is third on centre court tomorrow after Nadal/Lorenzi which has a not before 9.30am (UK) start time.
Oops, time difference error. The Nadal match is not before 7.30am(UK) so Andy's match should start around 9-9.30am.
Kyle Edmund match about to start. So happy to see that ferrer came through :)
sir coolerking
03-10-2016, 10:19
Andy is third on tomorrow, at around 4.30pm ish local time. So probably about 9.30am UK.
Happy to see Kyle Edmund got the win today 6-3 6-2 he plays Bautista Agut in the next round.
Andy at the China Open player's party tonight.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct2eZMyWcAQV2Ld.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct2k6lYWgAAKz9R.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ct2k5XWWAAAZn-z.jpg
Maybe they're discussing playing mixed at Wimbledon next year. ;)
Looking cool Andy. Good luck for tomorrow.:thumbup::thumbup:
LC the fan
03-10-2016, 16:19
Great to see Kyle got the win - it wasn't an easy match but he must be nicely warmed up
WimbledonWestie
03-10-2016, 17:15
Back to checking over scores in work- been ages!
Jelena looks fabulous in that dress.
angiebabez
03-10-2016, 21:20
Back to checking over scores in work- been ages!
Yep me too :nailbiter:
It's the tattie holidays here, great timing!
Wishing Andy all the best of luck :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Andy might be on sooner than expected as Nadal is racing through Lorenzi up 6-1 and 2-1 with a break in the second set after only 46 minutes. It's raining in Beijing so the roof is closed. Hopefully Andy isn't suffering the jet lag Jamie Delgado is who has been tweeting in the early hours of each morning since he arrived.
It's a shame about the Thiem vs Zverev match still being suspended.
A surprise (or is it?) as Zverev beats Thiem (who was seeded to meet Andy in the semis) 4-6 6-1 6-3.
sir coolerking
04-10-2016, 14:09
Andy is now due to play tomorrow, first match in the evening at 7.30pm local time (12.30pm UK).
JAMES4578
04-10-2016, 14:14
Whilst like them both Zverev impressive at this stage of the season and perhaps has more potential,Dominic paying for his hectic schedule.
dewster99
04-10-2016, 14:23
Thiem plays every week basically, can never recover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E0mS-WWJLI
LC the fan
04-10-2016, 18:04
Curses, I am booked out to lunch tomorrow. Ah well, come on Andy. Good luck tomorrow - I will hopefully catch you up on Thursday :clap:
Have been away all day today, but have just watched Andy's match on replay. So good to have him back on court! It livens things up a wee bit! I liked what I saw! I think Andy is in good shape and that was a comfortable match to ease him back into match play again. Will have to watch tomorrow's match on replay too! Away until late afternoon. :cheer: :clap:
It's obvious I've have been away!! Not paying attention...this post is in the wrong thread! Should have been in Andy v Seppi thread! I was wondering why there wasn't much said about Andy in this thread....then penny dropped! :doh: :shamed:
Thiem plays every week basically, can never recover
This is the reason before the match I was certain that Zverev would take it. Theim has played so much though he will be sad now I'm certain that he is better off. He can have a rest and ready himself for Shanghai. I was expecting and going for a Zverev win so I was happy with this result.
I was able to watch the Murray match and the nadal match tonight, though no others as it seems my sky box ran out of space. Nadal was very impressive. I hope he is able to keep up this form for the rest of the tournie, I am hoping for a Murray nadal final, but wanting on is what is making me think it be raonic. I didn't see his match today but was happy to see that he got the win.
Thursday's OOP
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuAPbVXUIAEzdOr.jpg
sir coolerking
05-10-2016, 13:34
With Nadal getting the evening match tomorrow, he's hardly likely to play during Friday daytime, so I think we can expect Andy/Kyle to take that slot.
As much as I wanted Zverev to win today and as well as he has played I'll be cheering for one of my old favourites ferrer in zverev's next match. I actually think Zverev has a really good chance of taking the match so I'll have to cross my fingers. Hoping for another raonic win too :)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuFqiP-WEAAuDDf.jpg
There's forecast more heavy rain tomorrow so those not on centre court are going to be struggling.
Hoping that gasguet pulls through in the continuation of his match, but if a shame for him and (hopefully) raonic as they will have to play twice in one. I guess they'd sooner play twice on quarters day than semis day though. It shouldn't be too much of a challange for raonic but I could see gasguet suffering in his second match of he wins the first.
JAMES4578
06-10-2016, 21:09
A good win for nadal, great to see his confidence in the tough moments in the tie break. Here is what he had to say about it
“I think I played a fantastic first set. Great level of tennis, serving very good, hitting so good. During the second set, I slowed the rhythm a little bit and he played very well,” said Nadal. “I feel very happy that I won that tie-break. I think I played with the right amount of determination in the tie-break. It’s very important for my confidence to pass through these tough moments.”
He plays Dimitrov next.http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/dimitrov-nadal-gasquet-raonic-beijing-2016-thursday
Certainly seemingly in good form even if bit of challenge in 2nd, hoping for good match with Dimi but wouldn't count on it.
Certainly seemingly in good form even if bit of challenge in 2nd, hoping for good match with Dimi but wouldn't count on it.
Are you expecting nadal or Dimitrov to go through that one? Or do you think they will both be poor. I thought for nadal, the wobble in the second set would show him he can win the big points, hold his nerve. Could be wishful thinking though
Due to the rain, the schedule has been changed with extra matches added like the Cornet/Shvedova match which has just finished.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuJFW__UsAAVqbu.jpg
Can anyone tell me please, on livescorehunter, what the figures in light type to the right of the players' names signify?
themass15
07-10-2016, 13:24
Come on Rafa!
Can anyone tell me please, on livescorehunter, what the figures in light type to the right of the players' names signify?If it's like 2.62 and 1.44 as it currently is with Grigor and Rafa, they are in-play betting odds.
Oh, I see - that makes sense. Thank you, Hawkeye, I've wondered about that for ages!
dimitrov beats rafa in straights, i love dimi's shirt, he ran a million miles to win, good to see Dani punching the air when his man won.
Truly gutted with this one. Really though Raffa would come through (but lose to milos in the next round). Hopefully raonic will beat Dimitrov anyway and I'll get a Murray milos final. Kyle was great in his match, he's playing quailes in Shanghai tomorrow though so he better get over to Shanghai. So happy the ferrer match went as I expected though :) hope ferrer has something in the tank to make the match tomorrow interesting no bagels please! But no tiring Andy out either.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/dimitrov-nadal-beijing-2016-friday
Elizabeth
07-10-2016, 15:37
I was very happy for Grigor to beat Rafa. I do like Rafa as a person but I don't like watching him play tennis. For some reason he annoys me with all his quirky ways.
oop for Saturday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/beijing/747/daily-schedule
With this defeat, Nadal drops to #6 in the rankings and is overtaken by Nishikori & Raonic. If Raonic beats Dimitrov tomorrow he will become #4 ahead of Nishikori.
This will be the first time since 2003 that neither Nadal or Federer have been ranked in the top 5.
I'm really hoping that Dimi beats Raonic tomorrow - c'mon Grigor!
Unlikely, due to the well documented "Rafa curse".
Whoever beats him normally loses in the next round!
Gutted milos has withdrew from his semi with an ankle sprain he got yesterday. So it's dimmi in the final :(
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/murray-ferrer-beijing-2016-saturday
LC the fan
08-10-2016, 12:26
And a rested Dimi too - shucks. Still - my money is still on Andy
Come to think of it - does the Rafa curse extend over a cancelled match ???????
roytennisfan
08-10-2016, 12:34
Rafa curse?
Not this time!
A quick shopping trip, then home as I thought to watch the 2nd semi, to find the news - walkover for Dimitrov!; at a loose end now til Strictly! It will be a walk with the
dogs in the sunshine!
Hoping for 2 very long doubles finals so I am back in time to see some of Johanna's finals and Andy's, of course. Aller Andy get that trophy.:thumbup::trophy:
Very happy that Andy is in the singles final and Rafa is in the doubles final. Just like the Olympics!
themass15
08-10-2016, 17:30
Great news!
HoopGirl
08-10-2016, 18:23
So what happened to Raonic today - did he withdraw?
Also I watched Rafa fall apart - was it psychological?
It looked to me to be - strange as he was playing really well in earlier matches.
Keeptheheid
08-10-2016, 20:02
Milos turned an ankle during his match. He tried to play today but decided that he wasn't fit (according to Sky)
2 Brits in the singles finals!! Go Jo, Go Andy!!!
Andy is already a winner this week having been given the "Most Valuable Player" award after his match yesterday.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuTJeQ6WEAAtRsv.jpg
supergran
09-10-2016, 10:42
Wonder what that actually means? Lovely accolade.
RoastLamb
09-10-2016, 11:42
OK so I'm really bummed that tennistv showed the women's dubs final but not the men's. Why??? Glad Rafa and partner won but it would have been nice to see it too.
Didn't Andy get the best dressed award too?
So happy that Raffa won the doubles hope that gives his confidence a boost after going out in the singles
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