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Delpo was given a WC into Shanghai after getting to the final in 2013.
Thiem has withdrawn from Shanghai which might have made his place at the O2 slightly more vulnerable but then Berdych went and flopped against Muller in Tokyo although he seemed to be struggling physically.
I think theim's withdrawal was coming, he has played so much tennis in recent weeks and then lost so early to Zverev. I imagine he is hoping to take a break and come back strong in Euro indoors before the wtf
sir coolerking
05-10-2016, 13:51
Any news on Djokovic's participation?
roytennisfan
05-10-2016, 18:02
Well if he doesn't show up and Andy win's both this week and then Shanghai, the ATP Race Gap reduces to 555 points and a Win in Vienna could reduce it to 55 before Paris
It's a pain in the backside for Nishikori as he withdraws from Shanghai citing a "light strain in the left glute muscle". ;)
themass15
06-10-2016, 18:41
I did put on another thread I would it would be a good idea for Thiem to withdraw and then make a push in Europe. He will want to make a good showing at the tournament in Vienna.
Nishikori's withdrawal was to be expected after he retired in Tokyo. I just hope Berdy doesn't pull out too.
JAMES4578
06-10-2016, 20:51
Nishikori's withdrawal probably advisable too, often seems to be one step forward and two back (even if was gutted when he put Andy out of Flushing Meadows)
Shanghai Master's website has photos of players arriving in Shanghai including Del Potro, Berdych, Tsonga & Wawrinka. Djokovic scheduled to arrive tomorrow.
themass15
07-10-2016, 13:22
Looking forward to seeing Delpo play again.
Kyle is currently due to play in quailes tomorrow against a local WC
http://i66.tinypic.com/2m60gmp.png
Kyle is third on court tomorrow not before 9am UK.
From Theim re his withdrawal
"...trip to Asia has come to and end...went to see a doctor and he recommended I not play shaghai...Had a bad cold, was febrile almost every night and my knee is still not fit. To cancel one of the super 9 tournaments is really tough but I need to recover to play good in the tournaments to come...I hope to come back fit and strong in Vienna..."
Andy's prospective route to the final.
R1: Bye
R2: Johnson/Klizan
R3: Pouille
QF: Monfils/Del Potro
SF: Wawrinka/Raonic
F: Djokovic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuN_GjRXEAEcZvE.jpg
Unfortunately, I'll be going away for a few days from next Friday. So, I'll miss the rest of Andy's matches (if he gets that far).
Not an easy draw for Andy. After their match at the Olympics, a second round match against Johnson would be interesting.
Kyle won his match and is through the first round of quailes
Disappointed that Delpo is a potential quarter opponent for Murray, would have preferred to see them meet in semis or the final so he could get some more points before murray knocks him out of the tournie.
themass15
08-10-2016, 10:14
Agreed, Delpo is one of my faces after Andy
Agreed, Delpo is one of my faces after Andy I do hate two faced people :pirate:
You must be using a Kindle too! I assume you typed faves? :rolling:
You must be using a Kindle too! I assume you typed faves? :rolling:
I presumed that too but too good an opportunity to pass up
The qualifiers have been placed in the draw with Kyle playing Delbonis and their match is second on court "Union Pay 3" tomorrow after the Johnson/Klizan match which starts at 6am UK. The winner plays Wawrinka in the second round.
Sky have said they will be showing Kyle's match - they estimate 7.30 am
Disappointed that Delpo is a potential quarter opponent for Murray, would have preferred to see them meet in semis or the final so he could get some more points before murray knocks him out of the tournie.
If the davis cup match had been a 3 setter Andy would have won
oop for Monday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/shanghai/5014/daily-schedule
From the clever Nial Smith Design.........
Nial Smith @NialSmith 2h2 hours ago
Roll on Shanghai… #AndyMurray #ChinaOpen #shanghairolexmasters
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuVVDQ5WAAAJ3jY.jpg:large
If the davis cup match had been a 3 setter Andy would have won
I do agree. I don't think Delpo will win, I just wanted Delpo to make the semis or finals obviously it's not possible for both Jim and Andy to make semis and finals now though :( and as much as I like delpo and want him to get more points but not at Andy's expense.
I agree about Delpo. I want him to do well but as you say not at Andy's expense
oop for Tuesday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/shanghai/5014/daily-schedule
LC the fan
10-10-2016, 14:16
Pleased Kyle got through - big one next....can he do it this time
Glad Mr M is getting an extra day. Although Dimitrov deserves it as well. I assume he hasn't got a R1 bye?
The World #2 receives the red carpet treatment on his arrival in Shanghai. ;)
nina zhai @yininayi
@andy_murray arrived at Shanghai Hongqiao Railway Station.He went downstairs with FIVE bags in hand and on shoulder!#ShanghaiMasters ##atp#
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuacRRxUIAAEmsF.jpg
themass15
10-10-2016, 15:10
Dimi playing Gasquet tomorrow. Also Kyrgios has to play tomorrow too, although his match finished a lot earlier in the day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtL_oeDtq4w
Glad Mr M is getting an extra day. Although Dimitrov deserves it as well. I assume he hasn't got a R1 bye?
Only the top 8 seeds got a bye here.
I was really happy that tsonga and Mischa Zverev went through but disappointed for Youzhney. I can't believe two of my faves, Goffin and Delpo have to face each other so early in the tournie. But as much as I'd like to see Goffin as London alternate, I'll be cheering for Delpo.
angiebabez
10-10-2016, 20:00
The World #2 receives the red carpet treatment on his arrival in Shanghai. ;)
Isnt that what treacle & josh murray are there for?? ;)
Ferrer and Del Potro out this morning. Del Potro out to Goffin in 3 sets. Like Del Potro, but happy he is out this time. Wasn't looking forward to another brutal match.
sir coolerking
11-10-2016, 08:58
Yep, no doubt Goffin/Monfils are better potential match ups for the QF than JMDP.
roytennisfan
11-10-2016, 09:03
Really pleased for Goff after his final loss, guess Andy won't be too upset by the result. Sad for the other Daveed though, Ferrer lost to Lopez and unfortunately, seems to be going backwards quickly
roytennisfan
11-10-2016, 09:16
Interesting one on live now Dimi v Gasquet, Gasquet to serve
Delighted to see that Daveed G won his match v Delpo, firstly because I love his game and secondly, echoing sir coolerking, it would make a better match up for Andy should they both get through to quarters. :cauldron:
sir coolerking
11-10-2016, 10:31
Solid start from Djokovic who doesn't seem to be carrying any niggles at the mo.
First set to Djokovic 6 -3, but Fognini produced some good stuff
sir coolerking
11-10-2016, 11:38
Fairly straightforward win for Djokovic. Fognini played a few blinding winners but wasn't very consistent. If it's Dimitrov (plays Pospisil tomorrow) in the next round for Novak, that will be a very different test.
Sallydaisy
11-10-2016, 13:07
OOP with British interest tomorrow ...
Stadium 1:00 pm
2nd Rd
(Q)
Kyle Edmund (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/kyle-edmund/e831/overview)
VS
(3)
Stan Wawrinka (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/stan-wawrinka/w367/overview)
Followed By
2nd Rd
(WC)
Di Wu (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/di-wu/w571/overview)
VS
Gilles Simon (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/gilles-simon/sd32/overview)
Not Before 6:00 pm
2nd Rd
(4)
Rafael Nadal (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/rafael-nadal/n409/overview)
VS
Viktor Troicki (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/viktor-troicki/t840/overview)
Not Before 8:00 pm = 1pm (13.00hrs) UK time
2nd Rd
Steve Johnson (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/steve-johnson/j386/overview)
VS
(2)
Andy Murray (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/andy-murray/mc10/overview)
Sallydaisy
11-10-2016, 13:08
OOP - rest of Wednesday, all courts
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/shanghai/5014/daily-schedule
Zverev has just come from a set down to beat Cilic.
Fairly straightforward win for Djokovic. Fognini played a few blinding winners but wasn't very consistent. If it's Dimitrov (plays Pospisil tomorrow) in the next round for Novak, that will be a very different test.
Yes there were some big mistakes from Novak but not as many as from fognini. 7 doubles from him. Though a nervy performance from djoko with a high number of unforced and 4 doubles. I think Fabio made it easy for him despite a couple of dodgy points and dodgy games. I imagine the next round opponent won't make it so easy.
As much as I like Goffin I was hoping for a Delpo win but it seems he is feeling good regardless. What he said about the match is below.
“He's playing great. He made finals last week. He's so fast on the baseline. I think he's a great player to play. But anyways, I was close to winning. I played a good match,” del Potro said of Goffin. “For me, it has been a great season. Trying to do a good comeback after many injuries. This is just a match. I'm so glad to be playing in this tournament.”
More disappointing for me was ferrer's loss to Lopez. I felt like he was playing better tennis last week so I really expected him to come through this one. Happy with the wins from Simon and Tsonga.
Best result of the day for me personally was A. Zverev's victory over cilic. H has been playing so well I was sure he could get the win but still so happy he did. With the win from Goffin and cilic now out Goffin could move back into 10th in the race.
Kyrgios not fully engaged to say the least. Been told by the umpire "you can't play like that, it's not professional" after just gently hitting his serve over the net on BP and walking to his chair before Mischa Zverev even hit the return. I think Zverev complaining to the umpire that Nick is playing too quick when serving has annoyed him. I hope he gets it together as this could be his big chance to finally play Djokovic.
Nick, Tank Commander is on court, just gifted the first set to Zverev 6-3.
The serve he received a warning for. (https://twitter.com/doublefault28/status/786132961338888192)
Djokovic's tough draw could be about to blow wide open. Berdych is already out and Dimitrov & Kyrgios are both a set down in their matches which would leave Pospisil, M.Zverev & Granollers between him and the SF.
That performance was indefensible from Kygios. He often plays like this for periods during a match but that was the entire match he tanked. 6-3 6-1 to Zverev. Kyrgios rightfully booed off court.
sir coolerking
12-10-2016, 10:19
Djokovic's tough draw could be about to blow wide open. Berdych is already out and Dimitrov & Kyrgios are both a set down in their matches which would leave Pospisil, M.Zverev & Granollers between him and the SF.
And potential semi final opponent Cilic has already gone too.
Rafa just lost the first set 3-6 to Troicki
suttontennis
12-10-2016, 11:44
Nick, Tank Commander is on court, just gifted the first set to Zverev 6-3.
The serve he received a warning for. (https://twitter.com/doublefault28/status/786132961338888192)
I've been on the fence for a while about him. I've been prepared to overlook his idiosyncracies because when he's focused, he could be a serious contender. But the damage that sort of behaviour could do to the reputation of the ATP tour, and that potential sponsors and spectators will think seriously about not parting with money to a sport that condones that sort of behaviour, the ATP MUST take a serious stand against him. It's indefensible.
Troicki defeats Rafa 6-3, 7-6
And potential semi final opponent Cilic has already gone too.
And now joined by Nadal. Andy needs to restore order after these crazy results.
Almagro had 4 SPs in the second set but Pouille eventually came through 6-4 7-6(10) and awaits the winner of Andy/Johnson.
supergran
12-10-2016, 11:52
So Nadal out beaten by Viktor Troicki in straight sets. COME ON ANDY!!!!
I've been on the fence for a while about him. I've been prepared to overlook his idiosyncracies because when he's focused, he could be a serious contender. But the damage that sort of behaviour could do to the reputation of the ATP tour, and that potential sponsors and spectators will think seriously about not parting with money to a sport that condones that sort of behaviour, the ATP MUST take a serious stand against him. It's indefensible.
If possible, Kyrgios has made it even worse by what he said in his press conference. He said he doesn't give a &%£! about the fans (he argued with one during the match) and couldn't care less about the ATP Finals. His own worst enemy.
Nick's tweet....one minute ago.......
Nicholas Kyrgios @NickKyrgios 1m1 minute ago
Not good enough today on many levels, I'm better than that. I can go on about excuses but there are none. Sorry #StillAWorkInProgress ��������
Must admit not some very nice replies to that tweet, someone just replied "The "*****" of tennis"......had to smile at that!!!:)
And now joined by Nadal. Andy needs to restore order after these crazy results.People need to get used to the fact that Rafa losing to just about anybody is no longer a shock.
People need to get used to the fact that Rafa losing to just about anybody is no longer a shock. Sadly (from where I'm standing) true.
True but I had rather it wasn't Troicki.:grrr: I don't like anyone losing to Troicki .................. except Cilic, maybe! ;)
JAMES4578
12-10-2016, 15:20
Certainly A few upsets even if not all totally surprising, Kygrios being slated for lack of effort but said in PC that he doesn't owe fans anything-a bit more conciliatory when tweeting later saying there were no excuses though.
Not that long home, looked up the results of all the other matches after I had watched the replay of Andy's match and could hardly believe what I was seeing....Dimi, Kyrgios, Berdy and Nadal all out!!!! Maybe some more of a surprise than others.
Nick, Tank Commander is on court, just gifted the first set to Zverev 6-3.
The serve he received a warning for. (https://twitter.com/doublefault28/status/786132961338888192)
Oh Nick!!
A sure sign Nick is in tank mode is him playing a totally unnecessary tweener within the service box. The ATP are trolling him by giving it a Hot Shot accolade. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4_51oY1QHI
This by contrast is a true Hot Shot. :shades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2XNVTlyWrk
http://i64.tinypic.com/219t4c5.png
RoastLamb
12-10-2016, 18:06
Too bad Vashy gets Djokovic next. Would have liked to see him play his former dubs teamie, Jack Sock instead perhaps.
Nick was shocking. It's madness because it was on Sunday I was saying that he seemed to be trying harder and maybe he was putting his old ways behind him. Then there was the press conference where he said he was bored in his last match. So I wasn't impressed. Today absolutely took the biscuit though.
After a few dodgy points and one where he started to walk to the chair during the point the umpire decided to have a word. The umpire said "Nick you can't play like that ok" when Nick started complaining back and gesturing to his opponent, the umpire said "it's just not professional. I'm not saying he doesn't like it...it's a professional tournament we have to have professional play" kygrios responded by saying that's how he wanted to play and "I play however the (bleep) I want to play" he made no defence. He continued with dodgy bouts of play and bad language until he was given a warning for obscenity. He continued to roll his serves in and pick fights with the umpire throughout the second set. At one point saying to the umpire "can you call time so I can finish this match and go home"
As Zverev was serving for the match and Nick had just tanked another serve, a crowd member shouted out "respect the game, respect the person" Nick responded by arguing with the crowd member. Telling him to come here and play. Then "sit down, shut up and watch". The umpire pleaded with Nick, when he should have been harsh and given him a point deduction. Within a few points it was over and Nick got his wish, to walk off court, though it was to the booing of the crowd.
In his press conference he initially made no apology. He said he "tapped out abit" he also said he didn't understand the fans shouting out as they don't have to watch and he "doesn't owe them anything". He also said he "couldn't care less" about making the WTF. Later on Twitter he did issue an apology. Though not a very good one. Perhaps he should have apogee D to his opponent and to the crowd, who he does owe something too. Their money for seats and the television rights for all the people who watch at home pay the $30,000 prize money he got for teaching this round. Also as many players have said in the past, if nobody watched tennis then players wouldn't be able to do it as a job!
All in poor from Nick. I hope they cut his prize money. Maybe give it as refunds to the people who paid to see the match, to the people who bet on the match and to his opponent who did a great job of coping with it.
The Raffa match was a surprise, he didn't play great in the first set but was much better in the second. Troicki played the match of his life with high percentages, lots of winners and low errors. Nadal did say that he knows where he went wrong. That he needs to be able to put more pressure on his opponents and cause them pain with the forehand. He also said he needed to run more and get more power in his legs. Raffa did get a warning (though it an official one) for coaching as Damien said that he saw nadal's coach gesture and speak to him. Raffa's response was that he didn't get his attention so he was unaware of anything.
I thought Kyle did a great job even though he didn't get the win, Stan played really well. On the bright side wins for Murray, Goffin and Simon went through :)
Dimi and Kyrgios' losses were understandable, I suppose, given the exertions of last week - although Kyrgios' behaviour on court was unforgivable. Berdy and Nadal just don't seem to have the belief at the moment.
Dimi and Kyrgios' losses were understandable, I suppose, given the exertions of last week - although Kyrgios' behaviour on court was unforgivable. Berdy and Nadal just don't seem to have the belief at the moment.
Berdy did say last week that he was feeling tired in the match lost. He said that he wasn't feeling great in his body. I hope it is just getting back into it after the appendicitis and not that it is coming back. Maybe he can use the off season to have it removed.
LC the fan
13-10-2016, 06:00
Just don't understand Nick....he was so buoyed up when he won his first 500 last week...if ever there was a talent just asking to be wasted.........
I do hope he can get his head together soon, he is so good to watch when he is on song
Glad to see Popsicle turn up in the first set against Nole after being 2 breaks down at 0-4 made it 4-6 and now on serve in the second and giving a good account of himself.
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 09:23
Raonic and Sock tiebreak in decider, unexpected after Sock was bagled in the opening set
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 09:24
Glad to see Popsicle turn up in the first set against Nole after being 2 breaks down at 0-4 made it 4-6 and now on serve in the second and giving a good account of himself.
Lost 4-6 4-6 but agree some recovery and put up a fight, seems to be getting form back
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 09:30
Mischa through to qf as a quali, but Alexander out in a tough battle with Tsonga, mixed fortunes, Mischa can still overtake Kyle but (highly) unlikely.
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 09:32
Raonic Sock now 8-8 in tb
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 09:33
Sock wins 10-8 won 2 successive service breaks from 7-8 then served out.
LC the fan
13-10-2016, 09:37
Well done to Jack Sock - he hasn't beaten too many of the bigger players but he held that well after a first set bagel
Russell Fuller tweet....
Russell Fuller @russellcfuller 37s38 seconds ago
$16 500 fine for Nick Kyrgios in Shanghai - that includes a $10 000 fine for "lack of best effort" in yesterday's match v Mischa Zverev
http://i68.tinypic.com/2h50h6s.png
Jamie & Bruno finally get to play. :thumbup:
themass15
13-10-2016, 12:13
Russell Fuller tweet....
I am afraid it serves him right.
I am afraid it serves him right. Yes, I agree .... but whatever he does (and yesterday was bad) I just can't help but like him!!
What the heck happened to Monfils? It's Goffin next for Mr M. Elsewhere SIMON is serving for a straight sets defeat of Warwrinka. It looks like Mr M's side of the draw is opening up nicely.
sir coolerking
13-10-2016, 13:46
What the heck happened to Monfils? It's Goffin next for Mr M. Elsewhere SIMON is serving for a straight sets defeat of Warwrinka. It looks like Mr M's side of the draw is opening up nicely.
If Simon serves this out, then Goffin is the only seed left in Andy's half. It's a funny old tournament this.
Yes, I agree .... but whatever he does (and yesterday was bad) I just can't help but like him!!
I just think he is a confused and unhappy young man, full of angst. More to be pittied than scolded. He reminds me of the rogues I used to teach I want to give him a cuddle and smack him at the same time.
Simon takes it. Great for Mr M.
sir coolerking
13-10-2016, 13:50
So it's Goffin in the QF and then a potential semi against Simon or Sock..........there have certainly been tougher routes to a Masters Final!!
Simon takes it. Great for Mr M.
Wondered how you knew when I was still watching.........then remembered I'd had the tv on pause to greet Mr P on his return from golf:doh: :lol:
What happened to Raonic? he had won 6/0 in the first set when I had to leave.
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 14:07
What happened to Raonic? he had won 6/0 in the first set when I had to leave.
I posted earlier on thread lost 10-8 in decider tiebreak having had match points on his own serve
roytennisfan
13-10-2016, 14:10
Looking increasingly like an Andy v Nole final
Raonic seems to have lost the consistency he was showing in the first half of the year when he was continually reaching the sharp end of tournaments and losing only to higher ranked players. It's happened ever since the Wimbledon final or more specifically working with McEnroe. Scarred for life. ;)
I had to go out shortly after Andy's match, but before I left, I checked in to see how the Gael/David match was progressing. Gael was a set and a break up, so I left thinking that was nice, an Andy/Gael match tomorrow. Simply couldn't believe my eyes when I got back to find it's Goffin tomorrow! He has been quite an escape artist this week. You would think I would have learned by now that in sport it's not over till it's over! Also quite a shock to see Stan out too. What a strange tournament this year! No matter, looking forward to Andy and David tomorrow.
Yes, I agree .... but whatever he does (and yesterday was bad) I just can't help but like him!!
Well at least he is enetertaining us and giving us somethig to talk about even if not entertaining the crowd ;)
Raonic, Monfils and Wawrinka all out today. As you say, Pat, a strange tournament but an interesting one.
sir coolerking
13-10-2016, 16:08
The concern I have about Kyrgios is that if a player was deliberately losing matches as part of a betting scam then they would probably get a significant ban (potentially lifetime). But throwing matches in the way he does is apparently not such a big issue, even though there are huge gambling ramifications. If he does it again then the punishment needs to be much greater.
JAMES4578
13-10-2016, 19:14
Suppose always upsets and Raonic already qualified for WTF, some comeback from Sock though! Maybe wasn't Stan best day but consistency not always his forte, good win for Simon though!
suttontennis
13-10-2016, 21:24
Raonic, Monfils and Wawrinka all out today. As you say, Pat, a strange tournament but an interesting one.
Monfils playing in Stockholm, think the other two have an off week next week. So it's not like they are in a hurry to get somewhere. Perhaps they've bettered their points from last year. It just shows how even the men's tour is, there are very few players that win by not playing somewhere near their best tennis.
suttontennis
13-10-2016, 21:27
The concern I have about Kyrgios is that if a player was deliberately losing matches as part of a betting scam then they would probably get a significant ban (potentially lifetime). But throwing matches in the way he does is apparently not such a big issue, even though there are huge gambling ramifications. If he does it again then the punishment needs to be much greater.
If a Challenger level player lost the way Kyrgios did the TIU would be all over it.
I think a player who had been bribed to throw a match would do it a little more subtly than Kyrgios did yesterday!
I think a player who had been bribed to throw a match would do it a little more subtly than Kyrgios did yesterday!
I agree, whilst I am suspicious of all sorts of things Kyrgios strikes me as a toddler (albeit a large one), having a tantrum - stamping his foot and screaming "I am not doing that, and you can't make me.....". He will grow out of it at some point, or give up the game. If people are daft enough to bet on someone so volatile, then more fool them.
sir coolerking
14-10-2016, 06:54
Agree with Teresa and Alis, but the fact he remains he was a hot favourite to beat Zverev and a lot of people would have lost money as a result of his attitude. Anyone aware of which side of the bed Nick had woken up on could've made a fortune. Although I'm not sure Nick is really that aware of which side of the bed he wakes up on!!
Bautista Agut strolled past JWT 6-3 6-4.
Nole currently an early break down against Mischa Zverev.
RosieBear
14-10-2016, 07:56
Mischa takes the first set 6-3. So much of Novak's dominance was based his opponents fearing him and handing him wins. I know Mischa hasn't won yet, but there is definitely a change in how opponents view Novak now. I give big credit to Jiri Vesely - he was the first to play the ball rather than the aura/rep and show it can be done.
For the sake of Andy's no 1 bid - C'mon Mischa!!
Sad that Tsonga lost. Quite a few "upsets" along the way here. Hope there isn't another later this morning.
sir coolerking
14-10-2016, 08:36
Djokovic was a break up in the second set but then immediately broken back. He's playing a completely risk free type of tennis (just putting it back in play, we're seeing long rallies of little interest) with a very odd demeanour (smiling a lot at poor shots). Really doesn't seem right in himself at all.
Nole serving to stay in the match, *5-6.
roytennisfan
14-10-2016, 08:51
But now 4-2 up in tiebreak
RosieBear
14-10-2016, 08:53
Well done Misha, cooly done to peg back to 4-5 -just the 1 mb down...
roytennisfan
14-10-2016, 08:55
But he levels set all
RosieBear
14-10-2016, 08:55
Groan :hmm: Into decider - mon Mischa !
roytennisfan
14-10-2016, 08:56
Nervy tennis
sir coolerking
14-10-2016, 09:13
Given how limited Mischa's game is on the backhand side it's astonishing he's made a game of this.
Sallydaisy
14-10-2016, 09:31
Nole took the 2nd set tie break and is 5'2 up in the decider.
mickeypops
14-10-2016, 09:35
Novak someone gets the win, but he played very poorly I think. A top player would have won easily. I've never seen him so defensive....
RosieBear
14-10-2016, 09:35
Nole comes through. But good match from Mischa - can live with Novak winning if he's been pushed and earned the W. :clap:
roytennisfan
14-10-2016, 09:35
Yes about to win but not like he was 6 months ago forsure
Rosalind
14-10-2016, 09:38
missed the match except end but good to hear he found it difficult! Yes a top player should beat him... C'mon Andy for that no 1 spot! :superman:
supergran
14-10-2016, 09:39
Watched first two sets then left for Jamie and Bruno's match. A bit of a struggle at the moment. It's all over. :crying::crying::crying: Had high hopes early on in Nole and Mischa's match. Djokovic made so many errors. Still he's not no 1 for nothing though he seemed very flat in first two sets and never seemed in control during them. I presume Novak upped his game in third but glad I missed his "Take my heart and love me back' antics.
sir coolerking
14-10-2016, 09:43
If Novak plays like that tomorrow then he'll lose to RBA. It played out like a match between two players ranked about 50, neither of whom have any major weapons.
Watched first two sets then left for Jamie and Bruno's match. A bit of a struggle at the moment. It's all over. :crying::crying::crying: Had high hopes early on in Nole and Mischa's match. Djokovic made so many errors. Still he's not no 1 for nothing though he seemed very flat in first two sets and never seemed in control during them. I presume Novak upped his game in third but glad I missed his "Take my heart and love me back' antics.
I did exactly the same Maureen! And for the same reason...primarily to miss the "antics"!
goldfish
14-10-2016, 10:06
I always switch channels as fast as I can when Novak wins - can't stand that ' love me, love you' act. A simple smile and wave is all you need.
I'm afraid the (lame) Sock jokes are rife in this house......Sock appears to be unravelling; he has wrinkles in his game; he looks stretched; that's one sweaty Sock........:getcoat:
So Simon takes it on the tiebreak - well done to him. Think it's probably going to be better for Mr M to play an exhausted Simon, who is a known enemy. Other opinions?
supergran
14-10-2016, 15:03
What a finish to a really close and entertaining match. Pleased for Simon though can't see him beating Andy. He does have a lovely smile.:whistle::big grin:
sir coolerking
14-10-2016, 15:18
I should imagine Andy will be happy with that result, Simon must feel almost defeated before he even steps on court with him such is the head to head (loved Simon's tweet when he did finally beat Andy even if it was undoubtedly injury assisted). I'd be surprised if the Frenchmen was the first man to take a set off Andy in China this year.
Sock and Simon seem to get on very well - the match was certainly played in a really good spirit - a shame someone had to lose really. I don't know who Andy would prefer to play but in his present form I don't think it matters who's on the other side of the net.
RoastLamb
14-10-2016, 16:25
WOW! REALLY impressed with Zverev. He almost had Djokovic. Too bad he didn't win the tiebreaker. What a great game he has.
Andyz match @ 1pm tomorrow, what great scheduling for a Sat.:thumbup::thanks:
oop for Saturday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/shanghai/5014/daily-schedule
Hmmm already a different Djokovic out there today :rolleyes:
WimbledonWestie
15-10-2016, 09:09
But he's waaay too skinny!
First set to Batista Agut and the humming clearly isn't effective as Djokovic smashes his racquet.
bautista agut takes the first set, djo smashes his racket on court
Who seriously thinks there isn't going to be a magical recovery? Somehow our brave, noble warrior will, by sheer effort of will, manage to take the next two sets - or am I being very cynical about the mind games he seems to be currently playing?
Who seriously thinks there isn't going to be a magical recovery? Somehow our brave, noble warrior will, by sheer effort of will, manage to take the next two sets - or am I being very cynical about the mind games he seems to be currently playing?
Not today, unless RBA has a real meltdown.
I know. Wonder if UniQlo will be pleased at the demonstration of how fragile their clothing is :rolling:
If Andy had ripped his shirt and then taken time to change it during his opponent's serve, the media would have gone to town on him. What's the betting no-one comments on Djoko's antics?
Rats - RBA misses a break point but - hold on he has another - c'mon RBA. ........ and he breaks!
I just watched hoping to see him broken, and saw that arm waving thing to the crowd. It seemed so false. He really doesn't look happy does he?
Missed the break, but looks like he is about to break straight back:-(
WimbledonWestie
15-10-2016, 10:08
If Andy had ripped his shirt and then taken time to change it during his opponent's serve, the media would have gone to town on him. What's the betting no-one comments on Djoko's antics?
I just been texting this very same thing to my mum and brother. Outrageous double standards. And very odd behaviour. I get racquet smashing because it's the object in your hand that you feel you can blame for an error in your frustration and it can be a natural instinct to slam something down when frustrated even if it's just banging your pen down on the desk. But ripping up your clothes? My pupils will be fervently hoping they never frustrate me to that extent!
And lo! The immediate break back happens........
Well he broke back again, but is 0:15 on his own serve. Can RB do it?
C'mon Roberto - help Andy in his quest for the No.1 spot
This feels like the last game of the 2013 Wimbledon final - c'mon RBA!
WimbledonWestie
15-10-2016, 10:27
Aaaargh!
XXXXXX - just to save the mods time:-)
Josephine
15-10-2016, 10:29
Didn't have the mental strength - that's the problem when not used to beating the top players. Come on RBA!:swingin:
JAMES4578
15-10-2016, 10:30
Dramatic game but Nole breaks back, RBA could have let chance slip but we'll see. Tbh mixed feelings about this match though as would want Andy to meet and get the better of Djokovic again soon.
:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!:dan ce::dance::dance:
Dramatic game but Nole breaks back, RBA could have let chance slip but we'll see. Tbh mixed feelings about this match though as would want Andy to meet and get the better of Djokovic again soon.
Just want him to be No 1, don't care how it happens as long as it's not illegal, immoral or makes him fat.....!!! Yea - just flashed up that Father Christmas has come early:-)
JAMES4578
15-10-2016, 10:33
Djokovic cert not at best but Bautista Agut finally gets its done with stunning winner and great performance from him,well done!
RosieBear
15-10-2016, 10:34
Muchas gracias, Roberto. And what a point to take it on! :clap:
Going to watch the match with Simon live and in real time. Obviously want Mr M to get through today, and eventually win because of the points, but will be genuinely happy for RB or Simon to get a first Masters 1000.
Good match and great tennis & result for RBA!!!:thumbup:
Going to watch the match with Simon live and in real time. Obviously want Mr M to get through today, and eventually win because of the points, but will be genuinely happy for RB or Simon to get a first Masters 1000.
Agreed, Teresa. Of course, I believe Andy will win but if, by any chance he doesn't, I won't be nearly as disappointed if he loses to an in-form Simon or RBA than I would have been if he had lost to an off-form Djokovic!
If Murray does the business and wins the whole thing, a rough calculation suggests he will be 2415 points behind today's loser. Mind you I am sure that there are permutations I have not considered. Any better offers?
Anyone know what Djoko's loss does to the race rankings?
Keeptheheid
15-10-2016, 10:49
Woomf that was nerve wracking. Cmon Andy����
Anyone know what Djoko's loss does to the race rankings?
nothing till andy plays his match :lol:
Rosalind
15-10-2016, 11:01
that was a mini Wimbledon 2013 final! :dance:
Josephine
15-10-2016, 11:08
Going to watch the match with Simon live and in real time. Obviously want Mr M to get through today, and eventually win because of the points, but will be genuinely happy for RB or Simon to get a first Masters 1000.
Well I certainly won't be! Andy needs to gain points in the race. Has got same as Djoko in this tournie so far as Jaydu says
LC the fan
15-10-2016, 11:17
Wow and thrice WOW? Djoko obviously still off colour. Would have liked it to be Andy that threw the punch but...I will take it..especially if Andy wins today
RoastLamb
15-10-2016, 11:32
that was a mini Wimbledon 2013 final! :dance:
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking too. :lol:
Great match, glad the Spaniard prevailed! :yahoo:
Just spotted Boris Becker at Strictly - bet he's glad he skipped Shanghai
Boris Becker burning his boats with Sky Sports? He might need them next year. ;) It's an extreme reaction if not unprofessional for the coach of the #1 player to be tweeting such comments. He could press the mute button or join a forum and moan about the commentators there. ;)
Boris Becker @TheBorisBecker
@DjokerNole v @BautistaAgut and little surprised by some of the commentary ...in particular from Mr.Fleming!!!
It's funny whenever @DjokerNole wins a point Mr.Fleming is quite and #Barry talks ...
Mr.Fleming can NOT compliment @DjokerNole whatsoever ...lol
Mr.Fleming ...can't hear you ?!? @SkySportsTennis
It's been said many times before but always impressed by how gracious Djokovic is when he loses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV4p-VbAMm0
Graphic showing the different Master's series court speeds. If only there were more courts like Shanghai or even close to it. Paris is on a par with Indian Wells.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu1_UekWgAEPKrN.jpg
Graphic showing the different Master's series court speeds. If only there were more courts like Shanghai or even close to it. Paris is on a par with Indian Wells.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu1_UekWgAEPKrN.jpginteresting thing about the graphics is somewhere along the line a decision is being made to make all these courts so slow why to suit certain players ? Makes better TV viewing ?
RosieBear
16-10-2016, 19:40
Graphic showing the different Master's series court speeds. If only there were more courts like Shanghai or even close to it. Paris is on a par with Indian Wells.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu1_UekWgAEPKrN.jpg
The whole slowing down of the game, that took hold as a response to the wham bam of the 90s, has swung ridiculously too far the other way. During today's final I heard Robbie Koenig say that Rafa is calling for even heavier balls to slow things down even more, claiming it would be better for players' bodies. Koenig said he didn't understand Rafa's logic at all. The most forgiving surface of all is grass - short points and easy on the joints/body - but I don't hear Rafa calling for a masters to be held on that surface. Funny that. Outrageous that there's no grass masters (not just because Andy would clean up ;)).
I find it really interesting that the slowest hard court is now Paris. I remember a few years ago the courts at Paris were lightning fast and produced some extremely entertaining tennis. Players had to adapt their normal game to cope with the courts. The commentators at the time were saying how nice it was to have a variety of speeds and they should vary the surface speed at some of the other tournaments. The serve and volley players were delighted. Of course, many of the clay court players - including Rafa - complained bitterly about the speed and the result was that the next year they slowed it right down again. A real pity, I think.
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