View Full Version : DAVIS CUP 2017, QUARTER-FINAL: Great Britain v France, 7-9th April. Rouen
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 22:41
A win's a win, and now we know we'll be travelling to France in April to play a Quarter-Final.
No idea yet where it'll be held; the French have plenty of places to choose from! Over the last few years they've played in Lyon, Monte Carlo, Montpelier, Nancy and Clermont-Ferrand.
Under Davis Cup rules the venue must seat 6000 spectators and be in a major city.
France have the choice of venue, court surface and ball.
The timing of the tie could influence some of the above coming as it does between the month long Masters events in Indian Wells and Miami on hard outdoor courts and the start of the outdoor claycourt season. In the past the French have chosen a hard indoor court for the April ties, perhaps in case of bad weather, but that seems an odd choice for all players concerned.
We'll just have to wait and see ...
:boogie:
Que Sera, Sera ...... :-)
suttontennis
05-02-2017, 23:05
Que Sera, Sera ...... :-)
that's Italian - I think you mean celui qui soit, soyez (or so my internet translation tool tells me). But it's probably not good conversational French so if any-one else has a better alternative please feel free.
Caley Shaun
06-02-2017, 02:16
A win's a win, and now we know we'll be travelling to France in April to play a Quarter-Final.
No idea yet where it'll be held; the French have plenty of places to choose from! Over the last few years they've played in Lyon, Monte Carlo, Montpelier, Nancy and Clermont-Ferrand.
Under Davis Cup rules the venue must seat 6000 spectators and be in a major city.
France have the choice of venue, court surface and ball.
The timing of the tie could influence some of the above coming as it does between the month long Masters events in Indian Wells and Miami on hard outdoor courts and the start of the outdoor claycourt season. In the past the French have chosen a hard indoor court for the April ties, perhaps in case of bad weather, but that seems an odd choice for all players concerned.
We'll just have to wait and see ...
:boogie:
Would love this tie to be at Roland Garros or Monte Carlo but will wait and see. Its highly likely that France will choose clay but not sure if that may tempt Andy into playing because the tie is just before start of clay court swing, think they'd be risky to choose hard court because both Dan and Kyle would favour that, same with doubles lads.
Could be another tight one like Queen's tie a year or 2 ago due to France's mad strength in depth. I am certain that Herbert/Mahut will be doubles pairing but singles is less easy to call.
Sallydaisy
09-02-2017, 20:46
Would love this tie to be at Roland Garros or Monte Carlo but will wait and see. Its highly likely that France will choose clay but not sure if that may tempt Andy into playing because the tie is just before start of clay court swing, think they'd be risky to choose hard court because both Dan and Kyle would favour that, same with doubles lads.
Could be another tight one like Queen's tie a year or 2 ago due to France's mad strength in depth. I am certain that Herbert/Mahut will be doubles pairing but singles is less easy to call.
Andy's playing ... thread move coming up ...
:shades:
LONDON Britain's world number one Andy Murray will play against France in the Davis Cup quarter-finals in April after missing the first-round victory against Canada last weekend.
"The tie against Canada was tricky," Murray, who was surprisingly beaten by Germany's Mischa Zverev in the fourth round of the Australian Open, told Sky Sports.
"I needed to have a break, I was definitely tired when I got back from Australia and my body was pretty pleased I took some time off. But away to France, after Miami, I'm into the swing of things and I've had enough rest."
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-tennis-murray-idUKKBN15O2QP
I read about Sir Andy playing in today's Daily Mail.
Would love this tie to be at Roland Garros or Monte Carlo but will wait and see. Its highly likely that France will choose clay but not sure if that may tempt Andy into playing because the tie is just before start of clay court swing, think they'd be risky to choose hard court because both Dan and Kyle would favour that, same with doubles lads.
Could be another tight one like Queen's tie a year or 2 ago due to France's mad strength in depth. I am certain that Herbert/Mahut will be doubles pairing but singles is less easy to call.
Kyle would be ok on clay anyway... This is tricky for Noah, he's fallen out with his best clay man Monfils and judging by what they have both publicly said, it seems he is out of Noah's team. Kedders is capable of beating any of his other players on clay I think, never mind Andy. Although I agree collectively GB looks stronger on hard and Andy weakest on clay. I noted Andy and Kedders win% is higher than all the top French players on clay on tennislive stats.
Would love this tie to be at Roland Garros or Monte Carlo but will wait and see. Its highly likely that France will choose clay but not sure if that may tempt Andy into playing because the tie is just before start of clay court swing, think they'd be risky to choose hard court because both Dan and Kyle would favour that, same with doubles lads
I think clay might be better for GB theses days with Kedders in the ranks..
LC the fan
18-02-2017, 14:22
part of that rest presumably involved a first birthday party for Sophia
:welcome: to the forum matt. Please feel free to introduce yourself on here - http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?68-Hellos-and-Yebyebyebyes/page214
Caley Shaun
20-02-2017, 23:34
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/02/20/britain-poised-face-france-davis-cup-without-andy-murray/.
:( :( :(.
roytennisfan
21-02-2017, 09:33
Britain poised to face France in Davis Cup without Andy Murray, seems a speculative report but if Andy does play the Miami finals weekend on April1/2, that does leave very little time to acclimatise and most of us can understand it if he prioritises retaining #1 this year over DC
I agree, Andy probably won't give DC any more thought until he is finished in Miami. Who knows when this could be. If he's fit he could be back in the UK for a couple of days and hop over the channel in short order. Could really do with him playing this one, we'll be too light on clay without him. Evo hasn't been good on the dirt over the years? Evo tends to avoid clay from what I've seen.
This from a freelance journalist who is in Dubai. I haven't seen it confirmed by any other journalists as yet but is in contrast to what the Telegraph said last week.
Sandra Harwitt @TennisGrapevine
Andy Murray says he's likely in for @DavisCup qf round vs. France, in France. Says perfect timing - live clay matches ahead of clay season!
themass15
26-02-2017, 15:26
That's wonderful news!!!!
Confirmation of what Andy said about the DC QF.
Reem Abulleil @ReemAbulleil
Murray on the Davis Cup QF tie v France in April: "I think I'll play. It's good that it's on clay, that helps for sure"
roytennisfan
04-03-2017, 17:56
Gasquet reckons Monfils will join him in Rouen (computer translation of french)
Richard Gasquet came back on the designation of Rouen and an indoor clay court to face Great Britain. "It is the best choice to play on clay. If Murray is to chain three days, it is more complicated on earth" considers the Biterrois. Richie has even admitted that according to him, Gaël Monfils will be present to challenge the band to Andy Murray ..
Caley Shaun
09-03-2017, 05:31
Tweet from Andrew Castle @AndrewCastle63.
#Murray to play #DavisCup Q/F v #France April 7-9.
Cap'n Noah's face would have been a picture!
Big task to play le frogs away @pygerbeau.
tsonga withdrew from Miami to go home for the birth of his child do I don't think he will play DC, I guess it depends when the baby arrives but it seem unlikely. Gasguet is still recovering from an appendectomy teo weeks ago so I can't see him rushing back. They are very fit guys but as someone who repeatedly split my stitches those things need you to rest so they don't burst. I wouldn't be surprised if they were named in the team (in hope on the part of the cap), but I would be surprised if they played.
Edit - Simon IS down to play Miami so perhaps his personal reasons for IW withdrawal are sorted and he will be in DC
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/20/andy-murray-rouen-davis-cup-tennis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Looking hopeful :)
Not good but still weeks away https://mobile.twitter.com/yarrumydna/status/844499791790813184 rest sounds like a plan
roytennisfan
22-03-2017, 11:04
Not looking good, he's due to travel to Rouen in only 10/11 days. Obviously hope Andy is ok, but wonder if he really needs a period or rest and could opt out of the clay court season
angiebabez
22-03-2017, 17:08
Not looking good, he's due to travel to Rouen in only 10/11 days. Obviously hope Andy is ok, but wonder if he really needs a period or rest and could opt out of the clay court season
:eek::eek::eek::hide::hide::sad:
Andy suffering from flu and talk from Leon about the DC http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/03/22/flu-hit-andy-murray-returns-surrey-seek-expert-opinion-injured/
The French must be really hoping that Sir Andy doesn't turn up in Rouen.
The BBC should, hopefully, announce something tomorrow about what they're going to be showing.
HoopGirl
23-03-2017, 17:28
I hope that Andy will be okay.
It may be just a coincidence but he may be run down from having shingles.
Hope he gets over it soon and his elbow injury.
Interesting that Federer was saying Andy had it months ago - so more persistent than we originally thought.
French coach says jo does want to play following the arrival of his baby http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2017/03/jo-wilfried-tsonga-marcus-willis-new-fathers-atp-tennis/64968/
Have the BBC said which channel they'll be showing it on yet?
roytennisfan
25-03-2017, 16:21
From http://www.eurosport.fr/tennis/coupe-davis-2/2017/yannick-noah-ouvre-la-porte-a-un-retour-de-benoit-paire-qui-repond-oui-mais._sto6106224/story.shtml
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Yannick Noah opens the door to a return of Benoît Paire, who answers "yes, but ..."
Ilyes Ramdani
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DAVIS CUP - Just two weeks before the quarter-final against Great Britain, Yannick Noah is struggling to compose his team, whose three heads (Tsonga, Monfils, Gasquet) will miss the call . What will push the captain to summon Benoît Paire, back from suspension? The two men do not close the door.
What if Benoît Paire returned to the Davis Cup France team? Neither Captain Yannick Noah nor the principal concerned dismissed this hypothesis, two weeks before the quarter-final between France and Great Britain. The 27-year-old has just served a six-month suspension after his behavior at the Rio Games. It is therefore selectable again.
And the context could accelerate his return under the blue tunic. Convalescent after his operation of appendicitis, Richard Gasquet will miss the call, as Noah confirmed in L'Equipe this Saturday. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga , who became a family man on Tuesday, should follow suit. There is the case of Gaël Monfils , injured to a knee, with which the captain has complicated relations even if the hour is warming: "I recalled him ," he explains. "My feeling is that he will do his utmost to come, " he comments, " but that's just my feeling."
In this vague general, we could attend earlier than expected Benoît Paire's return. In the sports daily, Noah confirms he went to Miami to " see how Jeremy (Chardy), 'Manna' (Adrien Mannarino), Benoît (Paire), etc. were. On Paire, he adds not to have told him about a possible selection. " But I think they know ," he said, " I was on Benoît's game, and I spoke with Thierry (Champion, his coach).
Paire will respond (with some reservations)
For his part, Paire does not seem to expect to play in the quarter-final of Rouen. " I have had no contact with the France team , has he assured Friday after his victory against Cuevas. He needs time. For now, I have zero touch ." The Marseillais opened the door to him without seeming convinced of its merits: " Of course I would be interested, but I think there are players more versatile than me. A selection, of course I will be very happy, but do not do anything, be selected to be selected, the goal is to win matches for the France team.
The 39th player in the world also brought a small reserve on his state of form. " If it is to be 80% with my foot, have uncertainties, I do not know if it's the best choice to select me now." Not really enough to excite Yannick Noah ...
It seems they have the same problems as us.
roytennisfan
26-03-2017, 21:35
Andy has a tear in his elbow and needs rest according to Jamie reported by mike dickson in report on the daily mail website
Also on article in news thread from the telegraph
LC the fan
27-03-2017, 02:47
Then rest it he should. Look what a rest has done for Fed. Not that I am suggesting Andy is out for long but a couple of extra weeks may be all he needs. But if he needs time out so be it...even if I am getting very strong lack-of-Andy-itus
The French must have been delighted with the news. I wonder if the BBC have suddenly had to change their minds, even though I still read about what they were going to be doing.
Josephine
27-03-2017, 11:47
I think the BBC show DC as long as GB is in world group.
Herbert has just withdrawn from Miami doubles with a leg injury. I guess we'll keep an eye out for updates to see if it will stop him playing DC
Silverdee
27-03-2017, 16:08
so many players seem to be falling out!
Teams should be announced tomorrow, any guesses? I don't think ours will include Andy. Theirs will probably be pouille, Simon, Herbert and mahut.
Anyone that Kyle Edmund and Dan Evans can beat.
Seemingly, Herbert has withdrawn from the doubles in Miami today with a leg injury. He may also be in doubt.
Seemingly, Herbert has withdrawn from the doubles in Miami today with a leg injury. He may also be in doubt.
Lol as above ;)
Sorry!
:no worries: :laugh: I was just messing :) it's been a dull day lol
Leon Smith will announce the team at noon, today. Of course, we all know it'll be Edmund, Evans, (Jamie) Murray and Dom Inglot.
Although it's sad he undoubtedly won't be playing, it was always a risk. DC can't be as important to him this year. There are other things more important career wise I wonder if the injury was as a result of that long stretch he played from Wimbledon onwards barely losing a match? I am so delighted he got to No1 that I regard it as an equitable exchange. In one way I hope he turns up to support from the sidelines, but in another I hope he spends it at home playing with Sophie and the dogs, and having a period of normal family time.
If we do manage to win this and the next tie is at home, I hope to come (tickets and timing permitting). However if it's away I can't see me making it.
Then with the changes next year, which whilst I understand why they are happening, I think will change DC beyond all recognition, I am delighted to have a final old style DC fling.
Silverdee
28-03-2017, 08:18
I think he will go to support the team, he won't be able to resist. If he can stand in the pouring rain in Serbia I think he will make this one. He might take the opportunity to hit a few balls with the others in practice, avoiding serving of course.
Sir Andy helped the team, last year, and probably helped them against the Canadians. So, he should help Kyle and Dan.
BBC 2 will be showing it next Friday between 1pm and 6pm (13.00pm and 18.00pm).
Yeah I think he will probably go to show support. It's not far from home and he could even just arrive Friday and stay till Sunday. I guess we will see.in Serbia Leon still listed him in the team but I don't think he will here, as he didn't in Canada. It takes the pressure off.
JAMES4578
28-03-2017, 09:30
I'd much prefer Andy to put himself first and have a rest at home,however if he can't resist at least shouldn't practice at that point!
As we all suspected the team does not include Andy. It is Jamie, Dom, evo and Kyle
themass15
28-03-2017, 11:03
As expected Andy not named in the team - Dan, Kyle, Jamie and Dominic. Relies on both Dan and Kyle being fit to play the singles!
I didn't realise it's been 3 years since Evans played on clay, I hope he's practiced on it a lot this week lol
themass15
28-03-2017, 11:14
I didn't realise it's been 3 years since Evans played on clay, I hope he's practiced on it a lot this week lol
Oh dear
Oh yes, I knew Dan hated clay and will avoid it at all costs. Didn't he play in Serbia though?? .... my memory is sooo bad! Partly for this reason and for morale in general I really hope Andy does travel to show support. His input could be invaluable and is massively appreciated by the younger singles guys. I firmly believe it did them the world of good in Serbia. But of course, it is Andy's decision and no-one would blame him if he decided to stay home.
No it was James in Serbia. Though he didn't win and the second match for him was a dead rubber. I do selfishly hope Andy will come along but he has to do what's right for him. I think it's really helped Kyle in Serbia. We will win anyway though :) dan is down to play both MC and Madrid so maybe he's changing his mind about clay now he is fitter.
No it was James in Serbia. Though he didn't win and the second match for him was a dead rubber. I do selfishly hope Andy will come along but he has to do what's right for him. I think it's really helped Kyle in Serbia. We will win anyway though :) dan is down to play both MC and Madrid so maybe he's changing his mind about clay now he is fitter.
I harbour that same hope too! Think it will definitely help.
Still no word from the French but Davis cup twitter replied to my pestering and said it would be announced this afternoon. As will Italy and Serbia
French team and I was right pouille, Simon, mahut , Herbert
roytennisfan
28-03-2017, 12:35
I didn't realise it's been 3 years since Evans played on clay, I hope he's practiced on it a lot this week lol
Stu was wrong, Dan played on clay in 2015 but don't think that extra year will make much difference
roytennisfan
28-03-2017, 12:37
Well this will be our third road trip (away tie) without Andy and we did manage to win the other two, there's always hope, Kyle on top form can beat Simon and Pouille
Especially with Simon's current forum. I think we have this :) we just have to try and drown out the French crowd.
I wonder if Andy's made that awkward phone call to Federer about his exhibition and will it have any impact on AndyMurrayLive in November. Apparently it's only Andy's serve which is affected so may be they could agree to play underarm. ;)
greatunclebulgaria
28-03-2017, 13:05
1st thought when looking at the team's 'it's coming down to the doubles'
Yeah I agree, the doubles will be crucial. Leon smith on the tie https://www.teamgb.com/news/murray-to-miss-davis-cup-tie-with-injury?utm_content=sf66256065&utm_medium=spredfast&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=Team+GB&sf66256065=1
roytennisfan
28-03-2017, 13:41
Leon SmithVerified account @LeonSmith 11m11 minutes ago
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Day one on the red stuff! @Evo151216 @DavisCup @BritishTennis thanks @TheQueensClub for use of the courts
Nice pic of Dan posted as well1267
roytennisfan
28-03-2017, 13:43
We Are Tennis FranceVerified account @WeAreTennisFR 41m41 minutes ago
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La sélection de Yannick #Noah pour affronter la Grande-Bretagne en #CoupeDavis : Pouille, Simon, Mahut, Herbert et Monfils (remplaçant)
The selection of Yannick #Noah to face Great Britain in #CoupeDavis: Puglia, Simon, Mahut, Herbert and Monfils (alternate)
That's odd monfils is not mentioned in the Davis cup nomination list or poster. I didn't trust we are tennis as they are often full of rubbish but I do see him on the French tennis fed tweet. Added on a separate tweet anyway. He won't be playing.
was just coming on to post that picture and update, great minds Roy. Glad they are getting some practice in though.
Rosalind
28-03-2017, 14:32
That's odd monfils is not mentioned in the Davis cup nomination list or poster. I didn't trust we are tennis as they are often full of rubbish but I do see him on the French tennis fed tweet. Added on a separate tweet anyway. He won't be playing.
looked on twitter - it's wall-to-wall comments on Andy not playing - in French and in English. The drawbacks with him being number 1. :knight:
themass15
28-03-2017, 14:35
We Are Tennis FranceVerified account @WeAreTennisFR 41m41 minutes ago
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La sélection de Yannick #Noah pour affronter la Grande-Bretagne en #CoupeDavis : Pouille, Simon, Mahut, Herbert et Monfils (remplaçant)
The selection of Yannick #Noah to face Great Britain in #CoupeDavis: Puglia, Simon, Mahut, Herbert and Monfils (alternate)
That amuses me; Puglia is a beautiful region of Italy
dewster99
28-03-2017, 15:00
I'd back Kyle to beat Simon and we've got a chance in the doubles particularly if Herbert can't play however the other rubbers look tough. Can't see Dan beating either of them on clay and Pouille is a very decent player although Kyle has a chance I suppose
roytennisfan
29-03-2017, 14:49
For those nor going to Rouen, it's confirmed on BBC2 from 1pm Friday
themass15
29-03-2017, 15:03
Time on ticket says 1345 so that figures.
roytennisfan
29-03-2017, 19:04
HOME / DAVIS CUP
Tennis. Davis Cup. Herbert and Monfils packages, Chardy and Benneteau called
http://www.ouest-france.fr/coupe-davis/tennis-coupe-davis-herbert-et-monfils-forfaits-chardy-et-benneteau-appeles-4891972
Basically Herbert OUT Monfils OUT
It seemed like madness and despairation that they ever suggested monfils, even as a back up. Any injury like his would take at least 4 weeks to heal. I also wonder at them being so desperate for a back up, does this mean simons issues continue?
Benneteau in the doubles is certainly a better match up for us than Herbert and mahut, they play together all the time and are so experienced.
Sir Andy didn't play against the Canadians, so radio five live didn't do a preview. No Sir Andy this time and guess what? No radio five live preview next Thursday. Instead, they're doing another preview of the golf Masters. I think they need to get their priorities straight, as they can't seem to get past Sir Andy not being on the team. Probably, according to them, it's "why should we do a preview on a bunch of no hopers".
Does Simon have a minor injury issue..?
He withdrew from Indian wells but cited personal reasons. So who knows what they are
WimbledonWestie
30-03-2017, 22:27
Sir Andy didn't play against the Canadians, so radio five live didn't do a preview. No Sir Andy this time and guess what? No radio five live preview next Thursday. Instead, they're doing another preview of the golf Masters. I think they need to get their priorities straight, as they can't seem to get past Sir Andy not being on the team. Probably, according to them, it's "why should we do a preview on a bunch of no hopers".
The Canada tie came at same time as something else that 5 live had to cover (forget what) and I think one of the golf majors has the right to a preview as well. 5. Live tennis coverage is pretty good, I don't think DC is being snubbed due to Andy not playing. It's all about prioritising their schedule and keeping everyone happy with a mix of sports. When Wimbledon is on it takes over 5live for a fortnight, no single sports event gets anywhere like that coverage, only things like Olympics.
This was what Simon told journalists after Marseilles as to why he was missing Indian Wells.
'I'm tired mentally. I had a very busy start of the season. I had a five-week tournaments, played Rotterdam, Marseille and next week Acapulco. I saw my kids only for four days. In Indian Wells you won't see me'
So personal reasons, is family time. That's nice though :) I guess it's easier for those whose kids are babies or younger than school age because they can take them with them. As they get older it's harder. No reason this should bother him in the DC. Unless he is still mentally tired I guess
As soon as all the teams were announced, I thought it was great to learn the winner of our tie will be Serbia in September. I really can't see Spain beating them, unless Djokovic and Troicki are really off form. But, you never know with Djokovic.
themass15
31-03-2017, 11:21
As soon as all the teams were announced, I thought it was great to learn the winner of our tie will be Serbia in September. I really can't see Spain beating them, unless Djokovic and Troicki are really off form. But, you never know with Djokovic.
If we win the tie it will be in the UK; not sure where France is concerned.
WimbledonWestie
31-03-2017, 22:51
This was what Simon told journalists after Marseilles as to why he was missing Indian Wells.
Good for him. Got his priorities well balanced.
WimbledonWestie
31-03-2017, 22:54
Relying on u all to yell us to a home semi- still wish I was coming to France but can't afford that plus queen's plus hopefully Wimbledon when the balance for my summer hols is due. Need semis to be home tie as I'm working the Friday and Monday so need to get there Friday night and home Sunday night. I have every confidence I'll be joining u all somewhere in September!
The BBC seem to expecting Friday's matches to go on for a long time. The second match, if not finished, will then get shown on the Red Button from 6pm to 9pm (18.00pm to 21.00pm). Saturday's match will be shown on BBC 1 from about 1.10pm (13.10pm) until 4.30 (16.30pm) and then it'll go to BBC 2 until it finishes.
Relying on u all to yell us to a home semi- still wish I was coming to France but can't afford that plus queen's plus hopefully Wimbledon when the balance for my summer hols is due. Need semis to be home tie as I'm working the Friday and Monday so need to get there Friday night and home Sunday night. I have every confidence I'll be joining u all somewhere in September!
We will do :) and be crossing our fingers for the Serbian team so we can see you and all the others who can't make it this time, in September, in Liverpool or Manchester lol ;)
I remember being in Liverpool and being there at the Echo Arena for the Davis Cup tie. I didn't realise it was in 2009. The last time, I went to Manchester, was for the 2002 Commonwealth Games.
roytennisfan
01-04-2017, 16:05
The court is in the process of being constructed
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BBC 2 will be showing Sunday's matches from 1pm until 6.30pm (13.00pm until 18.30pm).
Team GB are on their way and includes the ubiquitous ;) Jay Clarke (back row right) as a hitting partner.
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themass15
02-04-2017, 13:39
Bet their Eurostar train would be fun to be on!
The arena looks so small. I still can't believe they got away with it for a quarter final! .... it is actually below the capacity requirement after all (albeit only by a small amount)!
Given that neither side seems to have sold out their tickets, I guess it's big enough.
Given that neither side seems to have sold out their tickets, I guess it's big enough.
Haha! True .... and it beats the sports hall in Luxembourg in my earlier DC days
Davis cup preview https://www.lta.org.uk/major-events/international-events/davis-cup/davis-cup-news/2017/davis-cup-quarter-final-preview-v-france/
I'm sure many of us saw this coming with their despairation fro an alternate but it's official Jeremy chardy will replace Simon in the tie
https://mobile.twitter.com/daviscup/status/849562573808783360
sir coolerking
05-04-2017, 15:15
I'm starting to wonder if Mahut could play in the singles.
themass15
05-04-2017, 15:22
He could well play but at 34 he might find it a bit too much if he is playing doubles on Saturday too.
sir coolerking
05-04-2017, 16:34
Agree, but could be an option for Sunday if they need to change things up.
roytennisfan
05-04-2017, 17:13
I'm starting to wonder if Mahut could play in the singles.
An interesting thought but also very interesting, the positions in the ATP /race, a good guide to current (hardcourt) form
5 Tsonga ...OUT
12 Andy.....OUT
29 Dan................GB
30 Pouille.............FRA
31 Monfils...OUT
34 Gasquet...OUT
54 Herbert....OUT
65 Chardy...........FRA
72 Benneteau......FRA
84 Simon.....OUT
102 Mahut...........FRA
103 Kyle.............GB
roytennisfan
05-04-2017, 17:16
Here's hoping either Kyle can turn them upside down or Dan can confirm his!....or both do.
Sallydaisy
05-04-2017, 19:18
Team dinner pix!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8qzpiUXsAoppnu.jpg:small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8qzpiUXsAoppnu.jpg:small
The draw has been made.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/39516246
Will be out for much of tomorrow. Must remember to record!
suttontennis
06-04-2017, 12:30
Evans has played neither Chardy nor Pouille. Kyle beat Pouille in Brisbane via a 2nd set retirement, but hasn't played Chardy.
Yannick Noah feat. Jay Clarke :shades:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1N3OU9aRf4
I wonder what Leon's party piece is. ;)
dewster99
06-04-2017, 17:07
I know I've said this before but why don't mahout and Herbert play doubles for France. Both can play singles as well
roytennisfan
06-04-2017, 18:34
I know I've said this before but why don't mahout and Herbert play doubles for France. Both can play singles as well
They were selected this time but Herbert unable to play
Sallydaisy
06-04-2017, 20:54
Isn't Herbert injured?
Yes,that's why Benneteau is in.
Good luck Team GB!!!!!
Out for the day, but hope to catch some of the play!
:GBflag::GBflag:
All the best of luck to Kyle and Dan :thumbup: :thumbup: :GBflag: :GBflag:
RosieBear
07-04-2017, 12:06
Let's gooooo Kyle. Keep calm and carry on all the way to the W :GBflag::GBflag::GBflag::GBflag:
Andy sends his best wishes. :GBflag:
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Pouille serving for the first set.
France win the first set 7-5.
dewster99
07-04-2017, 13:31
If Kyle got to net he'd be putting a lot of these floating defensive slices away instead of letting pouille get back in the point. Also drop shots
Drat and double drat!! :crying:
dewster99
07-04-2017, 13:46
Threw that set away after getting back into it
Difficult job for Leon here to keep Kyle believing.
Keeptheheid
07-04-2017, 14:13
Oh dear testing times, poor Kyle. Tough watch . Suppose that is why they choose that surface
:crying::crying::crying: Feel very sorry for Kyle.
dewster99
07-04-2017, 14:22
Pouille has just got more variation in his game
JAMES4578
07-04-2017, 14:33
Certainly disappointing and 2nd set was key, Pouille was just able to step up more and had the flair to trouble Kyle. Hope Dan can produce but not excelled on clay and under bit of pressure now.
"When he's [Kyle] down 2 sets to love he goes away a little too quickly for me". I've heard Lloydy say this before and we know how he likes to repeat himself. How soon before he starts questioning Andy's reasons for not playing?
Worrying to hear Pouille say Chardy beat him 6-2 6-3 in practice but Jezza can be flaky when it gets tough so let's hang on to that.
The bit in quotes is true though. He can't be wrong all the time.
Chardy strolling this one too.
angiebabez
07-04-2017, 15:30
I agreed with lloyd for once. I think he does tend to go away too quickly.
JAMES4578
07-04-2017, 15:33
A bagel was looking possible at one point but Dan salvaged 2 games, tough to see him putting Chardy under real pressure though.
2 sets down, and looking short on ideas.
Not looking like another tie for me this year.....!!! :-(
It's a vague statement "goes away too quickly". Does it mean Kyle tanked the third sets of these matches against higher ranked opponents like Djokovic or if he'd only won a couple more points he wouldn't deserve the tag? Shows the kind of DC captain Lloydy must have been. Always with a negative comment close at hand.
JAMES4578
07-04-2017, 16:08
Chardy breaks at start of 3rd and the tie looking an uphill task, even if Jamie/Dom win the doubles where they should have reasonable chance.
roytennisfan
07-04-2017, 16:16
The doc has been over, jaffas 1285
jeannie13
07-04-2017, 16:17
I'm afraid I'm losing interest fast:banghead:
roytennisfan
07-04-2017, 16:20
1287
Oh dear, but clay is not Dan's surface.
Keeptheheid
07-04-2017, 16:49
Not pleasant viewing Cmon Jamie n Dom
RosieBear
07-04-2017, 16:49
It's a vague statement "goes away too quickly". Does it mean Kyle tanked the third sets of these matches against higher ranked opponents like Djokovic or if he'd only won a couple more points he wouldn't deserve the tag? Shows the kind of DC captain Lloydy must have been. Always with a negative comment close at hand.
Yep. So predictable. Thank goodness for Leon's totally opposite approach. Kyle was nip and tuck with home-advantaged world #17. Maybe it won't be enough but Leon will bring out the best in Kyle for the reverse and that's all we can ask. I'm just sorry Kyle (and vicariously Leon) didn't get his true moment of glory in Canada, after many tore strips off him following his loss. Let's go GB!
JAMES4578
07-04-2017, 16:58
It was always likely to be difficult for Dan with not having played on clay for some time and Chardy was strong on the day, hope Jamie/Dom can take it to a live 3rd day but even without Herbert will still be tough match.
patmoren
07-04-2017, 17:32
Win or lose we are still in the World Group for another year. A few years ago would have given a lot for that.
Josephine
07-04-2017, 18:29
Not the best day - only saw odd bits.
We can hope there will be a reverse singles for Kyle.......
France just have so much more depth - UK cannot match that this year and certainly not on clay.
roytennisfan
07-04-2017, 20:13
I thought Kyle played two great sets and was a tad unlucky to loose both even though Pouille was on top form and serving and playing very well. Most of his serves were around 135mph his best 141 and only his sliders dropped below 130 so it was really tough and there was no room for errors in rallies because he won almost everything if Kyle played any shots a bit slow, short or uppish. Really proud of Kyle today he played so much better than recently. Hope he can carry on in this form on clay. However Dan really struggled, the bounce and slowness of clay really doesn't suit him and he tried a few variations but with little reward. No doubt that he gave everything and could not be faulted for his effort. Not a great day but no reason not to be proud of our lads
Day out visiting my mother-in-law, and long journey back with delays.
Didn't see much of the tennis - just a bit of the start of Kyle's match and some of the second set of Dan's.
Off to read the thread, but :sad:
I thought Kyle could have taken either the first or second set. He was outplayed by a better opponent with a home advantage. Both dan and Kyle seemed truly disappointed, I really felt for them. Today is a new day, I'm sure we'll get the win. Then tomorrow it will be all to play for :)
On a slightly embarrassing note during the Kyle match I was shouting and cheering, as normal. At one point I shouted as people were quieting down and surprised myself with the volume. Even I had to apologise the the people behind who were just laughing. I tried to control my volume better from then on. Went for dinner last night with KevD yellowlivi and Charlie62 who said that he heard me clear as day from his seat on the other side of the arena and said to Wendy that it was me. I blame the echo lol
roytennisfan
08-04-2017, 07:18
Pouille has just got more variation in his game
Yes he may blow.hot and cold but when on form he can trouble almost anyone with his variations and his power. That's why he has risen steadily and in now well into top 20 and still rising
Wishing Jamie and Dom all the very best of luck. Such pressure on them. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :GBflag: :GBflag: :GBflag:
lovetennis
08-04-2017, 13:01
Great close up of the forum flag in the doubles first set tie-break :GBflag::GBflag:
2 ugly BHs from Dom was the difference. One on SP at 6-5 and the other to give them 5-1 in the TB. Ouch.
Oh dear, oh dear - come on guys
JAMES4578
08-04-2017, 13:12
Tight set but one that definitely got away from the Brits in the end,unfortunate errors from Dom whilst Jamie seems more secure. However long way to go and they can hopefully bounce back!
Alas. I think the chances of another tie this year for us are fading fast. To add insult to injury I have just had a Claims management company on the phone about my car accident...... I was not polite.
Second set to GB :yahoo: :yahoo: :GBflag: :GBflag:
Brilliant!!!!....COME ON GUYS!!! :GBflag::GBflag::GBflag:
JAMES4578
08-04-2017, 13:50
Dom certainly stepped up and Jamie convincingly serves it out,can hopefully keep momentum going! Edit They save 2bp's on Jamie's serve and then find way to break Mahut for 3-2, come on!
Third set to France :crying: :crying:
JAMES4578
08-04-2017, 14:46
Was looking good at 4-2 but the French kept getting chances and ultimately stronger in the closing stages taking it 7-5, Jamie/Dom can fight back but an uphill task at the moment.
lovetennis
08-04-2017, 14:59
Wasn't too happy with Dan's comment to Jamie Baker that he wasn't comfortable on the clay. He's got to get over that negativity to the surface and believe he can play on it
Bit of a battle now for Jamie and Dom, it's a must-win 4th set
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Seconded, thirded and forthed:-(
lovetennis
08-04-2017, 15:33
:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
Was hoping we could have kept it alive for the 3rd day but not to be. No more DC for us this year, at least I've got my Wimbledon final tickets to keep me going
Probably better for AM, but sad there won't be another DC tie under the current system for us. I think the new system is going to be awful.
However we will always have Ghent.
Do they still play thr 3rd day matches?
RosieBear
08-04-2017, 15:35
:sad: But at least we got a set :rolling: Slightly disappointing it wasn't closer, but such depth in the French team we were never going to win tie sans Andy, so overall scoreline pretty academic. Would love the French to go on a win whole thing - incredible tennis nation :pierre::thumbup:
WimbledonWestie
08-04-2017, 15:35
Raging at BBC switching channels at end- it wasn't on BBC 2 in Scotland, had to wait ages on red button leading it up! Can't believe no DC for me this year. Fingers criossed for Wimbledon tix instead. Boys fought hard to day but not to be.
............. and fifthed! The silver lining, of course, is that it takes the onus off Andy to play in the semis and final and we will still be in the World Group next year.
Shocking coverage from BBC - the last point was played and they completely axed coverage - no comment, no interview, nothing.:angry: Can someone tell me - did that happen only in Scotland or was it nationwide?
JAMES4578
08-04-2017, 15:37
Certainly disappointing but Mahut in particular plus Benneteau just a bit better and some inspiration at the end,Jamie/Dom though will rue some of the missed opportunities and not quite their best day but it was fine margins. Sadly no tie in September now and will have to wait till next season (with changes likely in effect)
Confirmation of what we already knew is the lack of depth in British tennis. Even in doubles it's not what it used to be and if we had lost as many players as France there would have been people playing for GB we'd never heard of. ;) It's still been a fantastic run and when Andy returns it will be again.
lovetennis
08-04-2017, 15:39
Probably better for AM, but sad there won't be another DC tie under the current system for us. I think the new system is going to be awful.
However we will always have Ghent.
Do they still play thr 3rd day matches?
Ah yes, we will always have Ghent. You're probably right Teresa, a Sept tie just after USO is tough for Andy but must confess I was kind of hoping for a home semi against Serbia so that Andy could give Djokovic a DC drubbing. Never mind, not to be, so Andy can focus on his own schedule for the rest of the year.
Pretty sure they must play the dead rubbers as people have tickets, but probably best of 3 sets
I.m in Scotland and didn't miss any of it, and interviews are on BBC2 HD right now
WimbledonWestie
08-04-2017, 15:40
............. and fifthed! The silver lining, of course, is that it takes the onus off Andy to play in the semis and final and we will still be in the World Group next year.
Shocking coverage from BBC - the last point was played and they completely axed coverage - no comment, no interview, nothing.:angry: Can someone tell me - did that happen only in Scotland or was it nationwide?
They said we were to switch to BBC 2 but in Scotland it was still rugby that was showing. Ive eventually got it on red button but it took a while to load. Outrageous service.
WimbledonWestie
08-04-2017, 15:41
I.m in Scotland and didn't miss any of it, and interviews are on BBC2 HD right now
That definitely didn't happen for me!
JAMES4578
08-04-2017, 15:44
............. and fifthed! The silver lining, of course, is that it takes the onus off Andy to play in the semis and final and we will still be in the World Group next year.
Shocking coverage from BBC - the last point was played and they completely axed coverage - no comment, no interview, nothing.:angry: Can someone tell me - did that happen only in Scotland or was it nationwide?
Don't know why BBC couldn't wait till end of set, suppose at least providing extensive coverage. The end of match and interviews were on BBC2 England anyway,noticed BBC2 Scotland weren't showing it and switched to channel 969,think red button channel on Sky was 980. l Scottish viewers can access English channels if you have Sky/Virgin. Didn't think of checking HD channel as thought would be same!
angiebabez
08-04-2017, 15:47
No more ties this year. :sad: whose up for a forum meet up in september??.....liverpool anyone? ;)
jeannie13
08-04-2017, 15:56
They said we were to switch to BBC 2 but in Scotland it was still rugby that was showing. Ive eventually got it on red button but it took a while to load. Outrageous service.
Ditto!!!
The two dead rubbers are to be played from 12.30 tomorrow and can be viewed on the BBC website
I.m in Scotland and didn't miss any of it, and interviews are on BBC2 HD right now
For some reason the HD channels don't always follow the region you're in.
I.m in Scotland and didn't miss any of it, and interviews are on BBC2 HD right now
That really is strange then - I couldn't get anything to work for me. They were showing the Melrose 7s on BBC2.
Sallydaisy
09-04-2017, 06:23
The two dead rubbers are to be played from 12.30 tomorrow and can be viewed on the BBC website
I'm guessing that's UK time as it'll be 13.30 here per the schedule.
Such a shame for Dom and Jamie yesterday but the French played the tricky bits better.
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 09:19
Wasn't too happy with Dan's comment to Jamie Baker that he wasn't comfortable on the clay. He's got to get over that negativity to the surface and believe he can play on it
Bit of a battle now for Jamie and Dom, it's a must-win 4th set
Sorry but I really disagree with the comment regarding Dan. He has hardly played on clay and to state the obvious that he wasn't as comfortable on clay as hard court and grass was said in honesty. He did try really hard, everyone there could see that. I remember a few years ago a certain Andy Murray made a similar comment. Also until the last three years Andy had only beaten one top 10 player on clay.... and that was davydenko who hated clay even more. At that time is was hard to envisage that Andy would win Madrid beating Rafa and Rome beating Nole.
@ roytennisfan - I agree with you. Dan isn't comfortable on clay, and everyone knows it. He still volunteered his services, and always steps up for DC regardless. We owe him a lot.
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 09:50
I'm guessing that's UK time as it'll be 13.30 here per the schedule.
Such a shame for Dom and Jamie yesterday but the French played the tricky bits better.
It was soooooo close, we were in winning positions in sets one and three and won set2. The final game of the first set and the tiebreak were lost opportunities and being broken for the first time in the third set whilst being a break up and we couldn't serve out the two games needed to win that. Though Mahut was excellent, very different to a fading performance in the Queens tie. Think the clay definitely helped the French and thought both Dom and Jamie played pretty well considering the surface and the opponents.
The match between Dan and Pouile is cancelled. Who if anyone is playing?
The match between Dan and Pouile is cancelled. Who if anyone is playing?
Do we know why? It's still showing on live scores - pretty disappointing for all those who have bought tickets if it's true.
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The LTA site says it's just going to be Kyle v Chardy. Anyone know a stream? Or how to get to the BBC bit?
Dan and Chardy warming up
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/tennis/39325913
It's on the red button on BBC1 ............and it's Dan v Benneteau.
And a break for Dan, good lad.
lovetennis
09-04-2017, 11:51
Is the second match going to happen too?
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 11:54
Well it's Dan v Benneteau,quite a few mistakes from the Frenchman now but some good play from Evans as he goes up double break4-1!
First set to Dan 6 - 1:boogie:
First set to Dan. I don't want to cast aspersions, but is Benneteau simply not trying?
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 12:03
Great for Dan,Julien though not looking too fussed.
lovetennis
09-04-2017, 12:06
Think they are having a bit of laugh really, just to give the crowd something to enjoy. Stlll it's all practice on clay for Dan :thumbup:
lovetennis
09-04-2017, 12:11
Yep they are having a laugh, now Dan is playing Benneteau AND Mahut
Josephine
09-04-2017, 12:15
How po-faced and ridiculous were John Lloyd and whoever it is about Mahut playing!!! It was just a bit of fun!
Benneteau obviously did not know he would be playing and was celebrating a bit much last night!
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 12:21
Certainly was entertaining though officials not too pleased,with Dan apparently winning easily the precise score doesn't really matter. There had to be some play today unless there were refunds! Think Benneteau is a bit tired after the celebrations.
lovetennis
09-04-2017, 12:22
Great lob Dan
Dan wins and really enjoys himself :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:
Well done to Dan. I think DC is in a mess, but not sure their reforms are the right ones.
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 12:27
Certainly became a light hearted affair and can't read too much into it, however certainly good for Dan and he showed some touch on the clay.
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 12:54
Certainly became a light hearted affair and can't read too much into it, however certainly good for Dan and he showed some touch on the clay.
I have it from a reliable source who was there that the French partied very hard until the early hours today, the whole team so serves and shots are a little different to the previous two days
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 12:56
However Chardy looking in much better shape than benneteau
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 13:04
I have it from a reliable source who was there that the French partied very hard until the early hours today, the whole team so serves and shots are a little different to the previous two days
Yes know Benneateu didn't offer much resistance and alluded to celebrations in previous posts. Looks like Chardy more up for this rubber and takes first 6-4,Kyle up 2-1 in 2nd-come on!
lovetennis
09-04-2017, 14:05
Shame Kyle played a poor game to gift the break back to Chardy. At least we weren't bageled, France win 4-1.
Got to wait a few months now to see what DC is going to look like in 2018. Out of all the proposed changes, it's the neutral final venue that I hate the most and I hope the ITF have done their homework in asking the top players if they will be more inclined to play if it's best of 3 sets and a 2 day format. There will be no point making those changes if it doesn't result in more participation
Is the 2 day format definite?
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 14:17
Disappointing Kyle went down in straights after having chance of taking it to decider-momentum quickly shifted, however Chardy did impress this weekend. Certainly was a more serious encounter, suppose at least we got a point. See my post on rest of the world thread for latest info on DC changes.
lovetennis
09-04-2017, 15:32
Is the 2 day format definite?
Think they are going to announce the finalised changes in August, ready for the 2018 draw in Sept. The 2 day format was definitely on the table but will have to wait for the announcement to really know. I suppose a 2 day format makes sense if the matches are going to be best of 3 sets but will make it tough for a player (eg. Andy) to play singles and doubles. Also not clear if it would be 3 matches on Sat and 2 on Sun, or the other way round. I really don't like the sound of it but I can live with it if it has the desired effect and gets the top players involved but I'm not really convinced that it will. What I really, really object to is a neutral final venue, as it will totally change the atmosphere and spirit of the event. I know the short notice battle to get a suitable venue must be logistical nightmare for the organisers but I just think a neutral venue will ruin it - surely large portions of the crowd will be locals who are likely to not be from one of the competing countries. What a shame it would be to rob future finals' fans of the wonderful experience we had in Ghent.
I think the problem with the 2.day format is it's going to be a long way for just a weekend, but perhaps that's just me?
Is the 2 day format definite?
Leon was on radio 5 this morning. He said he is expecting the new rules to be, best of 3 for singles and best of 5 for doubles. 2 singles matches on Friday, doubles on Saturday and reverse singles on Sunday. But that is only what he is expecting it's not definite.
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 21:32
Kyle performed more on par with his year to date today than his much better one on Friday. Average first set loss then after breaking really gifted two service breaks with awful games. Pleased fro Dan getting the win but not really pushed, would have benefitted from a more competitive win. Dined in the same restaurant as Judy mum and dad for the second evening. Learnt Jamie has been away from home for six and a half weeks and had left early so he could spend three nights at home before departing for Monaco. It's not as glamorous as people think! Our Friend John was with us this time and chatted with Judy and dad about the time they were sharing a minibus in Ukraine for dc tie in 2006 in odessa!
I only watched the Friday and Saturday matches. I did read, beforehand, the team (supposedly) asked for Henman's advice on how to beat the French on clay. I, personally, thought it was a big joke.
We lost, it's shame but this was France at home on clay. There was no chance of out cheering the French supporters, and Joe Public were also very loud.
As for the strength in depth, the French have this in bucket loads and us not so much BUT as Leon said in the Telegraph, some people seem to have very short memories! Do people not remember when we were languishing in a group 2 play off?! I have been following DC for many years and remember it well (some of you were there too). Again, as Leon said, we would have killed for a QF then! It's really not bad!! We have been in the World Group now for 4 years running (I think ...) without a play off. We would have killed for that back in the noughties too!!
So let's not be too down people and let's not slate the players. They tried their best and they. They have all contributed good wins in other ties and will do again. I'm proud of the whole team.
Rosalind
11-04-2017, 12:00
Does anyone think the French supporters were louder than us when we are at home? It is difficult to judge. We certainly are hugely loud when 500 Miles and Bonnie Bonnie Banks are in full swing but in general I loved a lot of their happy tunes and think we could maybe try to spice up some of ours or add to our song sheet. Particularly when we have the fan groups on different sides of the stadium, we can be doing different things at different/the same times. Putting all our differences aside, is it worth some greater co-ordination between the different groups to beef it up? Just a thought. I want to do all possible to help our players particularly in situations like in France this weekend.
So nice to meet some more of you this weekend and to re-meet others. Had a lovely time, despite the result. :flowers:
Does anyone think the French supporters were louder than us when we are at home? It is difficult to judge. We certainly are hugely loud when 500 Miles and Bonnie Bonnie Banks are in full swing but in general I loved a lot of their happy tunes and think we could maybe try to spice up some of ours or add to our song sheet. Particularly when we have the fan groups on different sides of the stadium, we can be doing different things at different/the same times. Putting all our differences aside, is it worth some greater co-ordination between the different groups to beef it up? Just a thought. I want to do all possible to help our players particularly in situations like in France this weekend.
So nice to meet some more of you this weekend and to re-meet others. Had a lovely time, despite the result. :flowers:
I agree Rosalind. I've always said the same about away ties. I love being opposite the team but I think we all need to be together for the impact when playing away. I was trying to follow the Barmy Army who were opposite us but it was really hard to hear and therefore follow them. Also they couldn't compete with the We Are Tennis brass band. I have to say that lot were getting on my nerves! Half of their songs seemed to have little to do with supporting the team (Hey Jude anyone? :shrug:) and the other half they stole from the Barmy Army and didn't do as well! (I believe for example was a shambles!)
The French had We Are Tennis but also their 'proper' supporters club who are brilliant and very loud. Also the general french public are pretty loud too, much louder than general public in the UK.
Rosalind
11-04-2017, 22:23
There are pros and cons re being split. There were a significant number on both sides and the players must therefore see and hear us all around them.
The French always seem to have a large We Are Tennis group - I'm glad we don't have to resort to that! From the opposite side of the stadium though, all their simultaneous arm movements looked impressive and fun.
We have so many fabulous British songs, I think using them and changing lyrics and then sharing the details around the fan groups would be a start.
Has everyone who wanted a programme from Rouen now got one? I have a spare if there is anyone who still wants one. Just PM me with your address if you would like it.
Ah well that makes sense, supergran said thanks for the programme but I thought I didn't get one off you I got it from Sally lol. I was starting to think I'd gone mad :) I still had one extra as Kev and I always share one. So I gave that one to my niece. She loves tennis and she's over 6ft and gold medal kickboxer so I couldn't say no lol :) :)
Yes, I got one for SG which I was going to post to her, not realising Sally had already got one. It made sense for you to take the one Sally got with the t-shirt so mine's going begging.
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