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World champion Mark Cavendish has announced he will be joining Team Sky for the start of next season. :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cycling/15259826.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/oct/11/team-sky-sign-mark-cavendish
Maza1987
12-10-2011, 13:37
Great news. Was only a matter of time. But they will need a balance between the overall and green jersey at The Tour.
Maza1987
05-02-2012, 21:28
Tour of Oman has just started. Cav's first ride as a Sky rider. It's on Eurosport all week long.
Maza1987
06-02-2012, 11:38
Alberto Contador—you little *******.
An expert said a couple of years ago, the cadence he maintained up some of the mountains was humanly impossible.
Foolish, foolish man. Very sad day for Spain and especially Spanish cycling. :grrr:
I like Contador and feel bad about this. Hope there are no other cyclists waiting to be found out.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cas-sanction-contador-with-two-year-ban-in-clenbuterol-case
So they've banned him without banning him? Cop out.
Just read that article more carefully and agree it is a cop out. Let's hope the Olympic drug testing is quicker than this.
All the drug charge against Contador seems to have done is to prolong the agony for Contador, his famly and friends as well as his supporters. Possibly Andy Schleck as well. :grrr:
total cop out, i have long maintained national bodies should not be involved in drug sanctions, RFEC obviously have a vested interest
david1610
07-02-2012, 02:06
I wish they had stripped him of his 2009 win, as that would have given Bradley Wiggins a podium place.
Been reading David Millar's autobiography and I feel so schizophrenic towards cycling. I love watching it but am never quite sure if.....
been let down so many times. Pantani riding up the mountain stages. Man against nature. Exquisite... but no, drug enduced.
Then you see Cav sprinting... very special.
Just hope Brad Wiggins is 100% this year and can go for it.
Maza1987
07-02-2012, 14:45
I wish they had stripped him of his 2009 win, as that would have given Bradley Wiggins a podium place.
Been reading David Millar's autobiography and I feel so schizophrenic towards cycling. I love watching it but am never quite sure if.....
been let down so many times. Pantani riding up the mountain stages. Man against nature. Exquisite... but no, drug enduced.
Then you see Cav sprinting... very special.
Just hope Brad Wiggins is 100% this year and can go for it.
I felt the same about Michael Rasmussen. I used to love watching him climb.
Maza1987
07-02-2012, 14:45
In other news, Cav has won his first stage of the year on stage 3 of Qatar.
Well done Chris Hoy :clap: :clap:
Exciting race :)
Well done Chris Hoy :clap: :clap:
Exciting race :)did he win the keiron (sp?), forgot it was on
did he win the keiron (sp?), forgot it was on
Yup, and he was near the back not long before the finishing line and just got it.
Its on BBC2.
Yup, and he was near the back not long before the finishing line and just got it.
Its on BBC2.im being forced to watch lets dance nonsense :grrr:
VamosVixs
18-02-2012, 20:16
Well done Chris! :clap:
Disappointed for Vicky Pendleton, although I can't watch her without thinking of that famous photograph...
In the Radio Times, the cycling is going to be live on BBC2 from 2.45 - 6.00 pm today. There should be coverage from 1.00 pm on the red button (not freeview), but I can't find it on Sky.
:cheer: Laura Trott :clap:
First in the elimination
Congratulations to Bradley on a very impressive victory in the Paris to Nice road race. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :trophy:
http://www.sportinglife.com/others/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=cycling/12/03/11/manual_142807.html&BID=678
Mark Cavendish will bid to reclaim the coveted Milan-San Remo title in Italy on Saturday - and Rob Hayles hopes he has played his part in the Manxman's success.
Cavendish triumphed in the 298-kilometre Italian one-day race in 2009 in a victory which proved his burgeoning ability and paved the way for success at last September's World Championships in Copenhagen.
http://www.sportinglife.com/others/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=cycling/12/03/15/CYCLING_Hayles.html&BID=678
Very best of luck to Cav. :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
Maza1987
29-06-2012, 17:12
Tour de France starting soon.
Wiggins' the bookies fav. Can't wait.
Le Tour starts tomorrow. Best of luck to Bradley and Cav. :yahoo:
http://www.letour.fr/2012/TDF/COURSE/us/le_parcours.html
Tour de France starting soon.
Wiggins' the bookies fav. Can't wait.Let's hope he can stay out of trouble this year :thumbup:
Wasnt there a pickem style comp for the tdf
There was a dream team thing, did Steven have a link to it?
There was a dream team thing, did Steven have a link to it?YE
BOTB tennis pick'ems @botb1 (https://twitter.com/botb1) @jacobite67 (https://twitter.com/jacobite67) http://ifarm.nl/tdf/ (http://t.co/C7ChyDQI) ... I keep thinking I've got to remember to enter this weekend! Deadline is 10 GMT (11 UK) on Monday
I'll have a go. Picked too many climbers last time I did this.
Maza1987
01-07-2012, 22:39
peter sagan with the sprint victory this year. I believe he's supposed to be the phenom. Good to see some new faces.
Annoyed that the prologue and Stage 1 don't count in the pick'em as I'd have done really well!
I'll have a go. Picked too many climbers last time I did this.Got mine in with 22 seconds to spare!
ditched the climbers this time too.
meanwhile in other news think i spotted Mark Cavendish won his 21st Tour stage today
He did - by half a wheel from his two old lead-out men!
I wonder how their relationships are now?
Wishing I hadn't picked Kittel on my dream team now
Glad some of you got into the competition :-) I thought Cav's win yesterday was one of his very best. You can see he's taken some weight off in preparation for Box Hill too - thankfully that seems to be the only sense in which he is a shadow of his former self!
Hawkeye - if they didn't start two stages in, I'd never remember to enter in time!
Thus increasing my chances...
Bad news for Sky & Brad - Svitsov out with a broken leg. (and not great news for Svitsov either) He's a big loss. :sad:
Looks like somebody eventually found the opener for the worm can (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/lancearmstrong/9377962/Lance-Armstrong-controversy-deepens-as-four-riders-reportedly-offered-immunity-for-exposing-champion.html)
Bad luck for Cav yesterday - was really looking forward to that finish too.
Gary Imlach came up with a great line to open in the ITV highlight show: "Apparently Peter Sagan's bike was damaged in one of the many pile-ups yesterday... and it repaired itself!"
No? - Ok, so Peter Sagan is supposed to be the next big thing in cycling and people were comparing him to Eddie Merckx (who was a big thing in cycling), in fact they were even giving him the same nickname, "The Cannibal" but it's way to early.. anyway Sagan decided he wanted his own nickname so he got his bike painted with a metal skull with red eyes and "Tourminator" written on the frame. Geddit?... "Tourminator"? ... the bike repaired itself!...
...nevermind.
Gary Imlach is still funny though.
Ranking: 2 Points: 288
#JustSayin
#JustSayin
Just noticed the "Ron Dun (UK) did well today and moved up from 23rd to second place" on today's report so came on here to say very well done!
I'm having a 'mare, not least because my no. 3 (Rojas) pulled out earler this week, so I think I'll just cheer for you fro now on. :-)
Just noticed the "Ron Dun (UK) did well today and moved up from 23rd to second place" on today's report
Oooh, there's a daily report?
Didn't know there was a daily report!
Wonder what's in today's daily report? ;)
david1610
09-07-2012, 15:36
Bradley Wiggins wins the stage and stretches his lead to 1 minute 53 seconds Froome in third for SKY in case something happens to Bradley.
Sensational! Well done!
Bradley Wiggins wins the stage and stretches his lead to 1 minute 53 seconds Froome in third for SKY in case something happens to Bradley.
Sensational! Well done!brad pulls this off then he could be possible contender for SPOTY
david1610
09-07-2012, 16:12
brad pulls this off then he could be possible contender for SPOTY
Absolutely. This is up with winning Wimbledon.
The big, big caveat this year is of course the Olympics! If GB gets lots of gold medals, especially an Ennis, or a "rags to riches" story, it could blow everything wide open!
Absolutely. This is up with winning Wimbledon.
The big, big caveat this year is of course the Olympics! If GB gets lots of gold medals, especially an Ennis, or a "rags to riches" story, it could blow everything wide open!imo it surpasses any gold medal, they come to every generation, a Brit winning TDF is a once in a lifetime thing(up till now) this time last week i was thinking Wiggins could be the only person who would have challenged Andy, if Andy was to win Wimbledon
david1610
10-07-2012, 16:28
imo it surpasses any gold medal, they come to every generation, a Brit winning TDF is a once in a lifetime thing(up till now) this time last week i was thinking Wiggins could be the only person who would have challenged Andy, if Andy was to win Wimbledon
As sports fans who know the size of the respective tasks -Wimbledon and the TdF - I completely agree with you. But as I say if there is some human interest story in a gold medal winner with a "Cinderella" tale, would that sway public opinion?
If Andy wins the gold or the USO, and Bradley wins the TdF, I think that will be a very, very tough call as well.
Oh and Bradley of course could get a(nother) gold as well. That would clinch it for him I think as then the voter does not have to make an Olympic v. non-Olympic choice.
Maza1987
11-07-2012, 08:11
The tdf finally begins as cofidis rider de gregorio arrested.
The tdf finally begins as cofidis rider de gregorio arrested.Yep, although I feel a bit of sympathy for Cofidis this time as it dates back to last year when he was riding for Astana.
You have to question the timing of the arrest - fair enough if he's failed a doping test or been caught with "product" but if it's only to do with last year why couldn't they arrest him before the tour started?
Anyway it's only slightly overshadowed with goings on across the pond.
As for SPOTY - I think Brad is currently favourite to win it & that's with 2 weeks still to go in the TDF! (but being favourite is usually a sure fire sign you wont win it!)
He would certainly deserve it but you never know with the voting since Cav won last year they might not want 2 cyclists in a row.
I wonder if (heaven forbid) something were to happen to Brad & Chris Froome was able to beat Cadel if he would then be in the running for SPOTY.
I don't think he would because he's not as well known but he'd deserve it just as much. His ride on the mountain stage to beat Cadel when Brad took the yellow jersey was brilliant & really demoralising for Evans
Maza1987
11-07-2012, 19:41
Who cares about that joke of a competition spoty. I lost all respect for that thing when giggss won a few years ago.
Maza1987
11-07-2012, 19:44
Is anyone here a keen road cyclist themselves?
I'm a fitness instructor and have always been more of a runner myself, however, recently I decided to do more cycling. Looking to buy my first road bike. Any reccomendations for a budget of 300 quid. Or just any general advice?
Who cares about that joke of a competition spoty. I lost all respect for that thing when giggss won a few years ago.Just don't mention 1997 - that must've been some lean year!
david1610
11-07-2012, 22:49
Sorry very much the armchair sportsperson.
Another day and (mountain) stage gone by, Brad still in yellow!
Fabian Cancellara withdraws.
Fabian Cancellara withdraws.Great. Another piper doon:sad:
I wonder how that's affected the tour de france competition...
... oooh look at that, I'm still in the lead! I shall have to give a staff member a pay rise. #humble
I'd avoided mentioning that. Quite a wee lead you've got too!
Huge day for Wiggo and team Sky today! Reckon Wiggo's tied it up barring disaster...
I think you might be right! Great performance by Froome - I remember something similar with Robert Millar more or less towing Greg Lemond up the Alps in the late 80s.
david1610
12-07-2012, 22:01
Yes... do you think Froome just was overzealous or was laying down a marker to be a team leader next year?
And interesting Cav still dragging himself up the mountains... wonder if many more will retire with the Olympics round the corner so to speak.
Yes... do you think Froome just was overzealous or was laying down a marker to be a team leader next year?Or this year? Trying to make a point after last year's Vuelta?
It was a bit weird, he didn't just up the pace - it was a full on attack.
Brad said he misheard "Slow!" on the radio for "Go!" because of the noise of the crowd and he did slow up right away when the team called him back.
You'd think if he was going against team orders he'd just yank out his earpiece and set off.
French press really have it in for Wiggins, saying that Froome is clearly the better rider after yesterday...
Maza1987
13-07-2012, 14:03
It's certainly made it more interesting.
Although I think Bradley was never worried because he knew the team would bark at Chris to wait.
Apparently, Wiggins' wife thanked Porte and Rodgers on Twitter last night for their hard word, but omitted Froome's name. Froome's fiance replied saying he was being taken advantage of, or words to that effect.
His contract with Sky still has some time to run, but sure would be interesting to see what happens when a team is built around him. He's not that much worse of a time trialist than Bradley, and I believe he is a better climber.
Would like to see Froome with full support in the future, whether that be with Sky or another team.
miller 4th GB stage winner this year
david1610
14-07-2012, 02:05
Classic problem perhaps of building such a strong team you have more than one person at the level of a team leader.
What happened at the vuelta last year (excuse my ignorance)?
Brilliant for Millar - tough way to win a stage, and rare. Especially being in the breakaway for over 200km, and winning it "clean" on the anniversary of Tom Simpson's death on the Tour (after taking amphetamines on a climb).
Liked his take on the girlfriend twitter spat - the "Sky WAG War"!
The Vuelta last year was like Froomes breakthrough. He was in the team to support Brad (who was coming back from breaking his collarbone in the tdf)
I can't remember exactly but it was like:
Froome was stronger than a lot of people expected especially in the time trial. The internet was rife with stories about how he was better than Brad. Froome took the lead. He accelerated away on a climb "against team orders". The team hedged their bets on both riders rather than picking one. Froome lost the lead. Brad took the lead. Brad lost the lead. and Sky ended up 2nd & 3rd when they could've won it - I think there were only a few seconds in it in the end.
That was the start of the rumours that Froome would be moving from Sky, but I think he has a 3 year deal.
So people are drawing comparisons between then and now - I think that showed in the 1st proper time trial - but Brad was stronger, plus he has a 2 minute lead this time.
They're saying that Chris made a big deal about his radio message by putting his finger in his ear and making sure everybody knew he was being told to slow down.
But Brailsford has been clear that they're going for 1st place here rather than 2 podium spots, no matter what - but I'm sure there's a bit of friction behind the scenes.
It'll be interesting to see what happens if Brad has a bad day & loses 2 minutes and in the final TT if he doesn't.
Today's stage sabotaged by some numpty throwing tacks on the road at the top of the last climb.
Maza1987
15-07-2012, 21:36
I was wondering what the heck happened.
Cadel had the puncture at the top of the climb then team mate cummings pulled over, and I thought he was giving his wheel, but he too had a puncture. Incredulous scenes.
It all makes sense now.
Flipping idiots. I hope some of the other idiots with cameras and phones have caught them in the act.
Cars and motorbikes with punctures and at least one rider in hospital.
But I did like the bit when TJ Van Garderen looked over his shoulder at Evans who had shouted for him to stop and then just carried on regardless - maybe him and Froome will be on the same team next year!
Frank Schleck fails a drugs test.
Today's stage sabotaged by some numpty throwing tacks on the road at the top of the last climb.http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/bradley-wiggins-targeted-by-wile-e-coyote-2012071634368
Maza1987
17-07-2012, 20:38
Ridiculous from Frank.
Why do they still think they will get away with it?
Because they've been getting away with it for years.
They've pulled him from the race (likely before he was pushed)
Allez Allez Allez, Bradley, Chris and Team Sky.
Very best of luck in the last push in the Pyrenees tomorrow. Great to see all the Union Jacks along the way.
I know nothing about cycling, but gather that our guy Bradley Wiggins (hope I've got his name right) is in the lead. Also, I read in the paper that when his close rivals were subject to sabotage (tacks thrown onto the route) he slowed down so as not to take unfair advantage :shocked: Was this guy born two centuries ago? I can't imagine any other modern sportsman doing that although fifty years ago it would have been normal for any British sportsperson.
So, vamos Wiggins!
It's the done thing in cycling, well at least it's supposed to be...
I've just watched the BBC documentary on Victoria Pendleton.
Her rivalry with Anna Meares is something else!
It's fair to say that any rivalry which involves close physical contact must add an extra element to it.
I guess that tennis is quite a unique sport in that rivals are never in very close physical proximity during actual play - unless you count hitting a ball at a player close to the net, or a wee shoulder barge at changeover..
If you haven't seen it, then I think that you can still watch it on bbc iplayer, if you're in the uk.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01l1yl4/hd/Victoria_Pendleton_Cyclings_Golden_Girl/
david1610
21-07-2012, 19:29
Perhaps only Formula 1 and the bikers come together so closely at such high speeds as well!
BTW chapeau chapeau to Bradley Wiggins. Just needs to avoid accidents tomorrow. Amazing!
DaveArneRiise
22-07-2012, 10:54
I've just watched the BBC documentary on Victoria Pendleton.
Her rivalry with Anna Meares is something else!
It's fair to say that any rivalry which involves close physical contact must add an extra element to it.
I guess that tennis is quite a unique sport in that rivals are never in very close physical proximity during actual play - unless you count hitting a ball at a player close to the net, or a wee shoulder barge at changeover..
If you haven't seen it, then I think that you can still watch it on bbc iplayer, if you're in the uk.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01l1yl4/hd/Victoria_Pendleton_Cyclings_Golden_Girl/
Watched that as well Super8, fascinating watch.
Go Bradley - fantastic achievement for all the GB team!
KnightOwl
22-07-2012, 14:43
I've never got my head round the final stage of the Tour de France! All the conventions about not attacking the yellow jersey, allowing the team of the yellow jersey to lead the "parade" lap round Paris and so on - and yet in the last part of the stage they are racing, and they do get time bonuses, sprint bonuses and so on - it's such a mix of racing and convention that I really don't understand it at all :sad:
I get confused with all the stages. If the guys work in a team to help a team member win, then really all the teamies should be winners.
Does anyone know how much longer it is likely to be before the finish. I'm just about to head outside to the sun again and want to come in for the finish.
Bradley has won :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
JAMES4578
22-07-2012, 15:38
A great achievement for Bradley, well done! A good moment for Mark too!
Really well done to Brad, Chris, Mark and the rest of Team Sky, but I have to ask -
Lesley Garrett? Why?
I first started watching the Tour de France 15-20 years ago, when the main attraction was the coverage on the Pyrenean stages on Eurosport, reminding me of one of my favourite parts of the world. Back then, a Brit even winning a stage was as rare as hens' teeth, so to see Cav dominating the sprints over the last few years and then GB dominating the whole tour this year has been amazing.
Congratulations but also commiserations to Rondun, who was just 2 points away from being the first Brit ever to win the best of the Internet Tour de France games, having led the overall classification for days until the penultimate stage. A great performance - the best I have managed in 10 tries is 15th and I was well down this time despite the Brits doing so well.
AllyB - as my girlfriend said during the national anthem, "he'd probably have cried if they'd done it properly, wouldn't he" ... instead he was probably crying inwardly at the painful assault on his ears.
I started watching on C4 when Robert Millar was at his best (I still think he'd give today's climbers a run for their money) and agree entirely that today has been a long time coming. Most amazing sight was seeing the Maillot Jaune on leadout duties coming under the 1k barrier - truly a team performance. Brad should get the chance to defend next year then Froome's turn will come - can't see Brad having the appetite to keep going after it for years. And to all the commies saying Froome would have won if he'd been in another team - I think Brad could have gone with him in the mountains if he'd needed to. Not necessarily beaten him but kept the gap small enough coming into the TT.
Fantastic win for Wiggins and the whole of the Sky team - what an achievement!
david1610
22-07-2012, 20:18
Chapeau Bradley. I have been watching the Tour de France for over 20 years and it is part of my summer. Seeing Pantani go up the mountains and then.... he is found to have doped.
Today watching the winner of the Tour de France leading out the World Champion to win the last stage was watching a heroic moment in sport, and knowing it was clean, too.
Only Andy winning a slam can equal that. Equal, not top, it. It was a historic day today.
PS There is no point in "what ifs" really about Froome being faster than Bradley. Wiggo did what he had to. I honestly think he had plently left in the tank - he wouldn't have led Cav out at least twice otherwise. Froome is a better climber but what is easy to forget is that Bradley also won the overall classification i.e. in terms of his average daily finish.
I also feel that the comments about whether the TdF was as exciting to watch as normal this year are forgetting that history may well show that this is a historic tour for another reason - almost no doping perhaps - and in the future the route planners may well take into account a more manageable course, leading to more "doable" riding and excitement.
Sallydaisy
22-07-2012, 20:21
What an amazing achievement for Wiggo!!!
http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Smileys%20Summer/th_1sm463bike.gif
There's an ITV special on Monday night at 7pm called a very British Champion if anyone is interested.
It was goosebump stuff seeing the British Yellow Jersey Leading out the British World Champion to his 4th consecutive victory on the Champs Elysees.
A British one-two ... all members of the GB Olympic team participating in the TDF won stages, 2 of them multiple winners and taking over a third of all stage victories between them ... things are not looking too bad for the Olympics!
Never mind SPOTY - Bradley Wiggins should be lighting the Flame!
Lesley Garrett? Why?:sofa: Shudder...
The Sex Pistols would have been more appropriate - especially for Brad!
Congratulations but also commiserations to Rondun
Thanks Steven - must confess my cheering Cav across the line turned to cursing when I realised Goss had let Sagan by for 2nd - I'd have won the whole thing otherwise :crying:
but not bad for a 1st attempt - still room for improvement! ;)
Lie Strong
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c130/rondun/lie-strong.jpg
You genuinely think he's guilty? I don't.
As guilty as any power hungry, lying, cheating, bully who has been an inspiration for millions of cancer sufferers can be.
And therein lies the paradox - he polarises opinion.
But yes, I've always thought he was and I don't just say that now he has been found guilty.
DaveArneRiise
28-08-2012, 11:25
As guilty as any power hungry, lying, cheating, bully who has been an inspiration for millions of cancer sufferers can be.
And therein lies the paradox - he polarises opinion.
But yes, I've always thought he was and I don't just say that now he has been found guilty.
He hasn't been found guilty though.
He hasn't been found guilty though.http://www.usada.org/media/sanction-armstrong8242012
The anti-doping rule violations for which Mr. Armstrong is being sanctioned are:
(1) Use and/or attempted use of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions, testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.
(2) Possession of prohibited substances and/or methods including EPO, blood transfusions and related equipment (such as needles, blood bags, storage containers and other transfusion equipment and blood parameters measuring devices), testosterone, corticosteroids and masking agents.
(3) Trafficking of EPO, testosterone, and corticosteroids.
(4) Administration and/or attempted administration to others of EPO, testosterone, and cortisone.
(5) Assisting, encouraging, aiding, abetting, covering up and other complicity involving one or more anti-doping rule violations and/or attempted anti-doping rule violations.
DaveArneRiise
28-08-2012, 20:19
These are the allegations yes but without the trial they cannot be proved. Yes Lance has stated he will not contest these allegations, but he has never himself admitted guilt. So without that admission of guilt from himself there is still going to be a grey area around this.
I'm not saying Lance is innocent, but I wouldn't condemn him just yet. Fighting these allegations must have taken a lot out of him. Who knows?
Well no, there doesn't need to be a "trial" since Lance has accepted the charges against him. USADA didn't ban him for life because they thought he was innocent.
Lance fought tooth and nail in court to have this case dismissed but lost and his legal team have already threatened action against USADA if they release confidential info. Which means effectively that the evidence may never be made public - you have to wonder why Lance wants that rather than face his accusers and finally clear his name once & for all.
I too would love to see/hear what they have - especially if it's true that George Hincapie was one of the witnesses who gave evidence - he was like a brother to Lance during his Tour victories and his testimony can't be easily dismissed, like Lance has tried to do with other accusers.
Of course this wasn't just about LA, but organised doping throughout a team, so it is possible that we might learn something in Johan Bruyneel's upcoming arbitration case (unless of course he too decides to forego that) - since some of the witnesses will be common to both.
Or if the UCI were to appeal to the CAS since they claimed jurisdiction, details of that would be made public.
New "allegations" are trickling out all the time - so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
As for admitting his guilt - if Lance were ever to do that, it would open the floodgates for lawsuits against him, starting with SCA wanting their $7.5m back for the bonus they paid him for winning 6 tours.
And not admitting guilt means very little anyway - look at some of the names on this list (http://www.usada.org/sanctions/).
Like for example, Floyd Landis who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of other peoples money "proving his innocence" - and we all know how that worked out for him.
Fighting these allegations must have taken a lot out of him. Who knows?The dozen or so team-mates and colleagues who testified under oath to a Grand Jury that he is guilty probably have a fair idea.
What I do know is that Tyler Hamilton's new book should be an interesting read.
Anyway, on more mundane cycling matters it looks like Chris Froome's chances of a podium on the Vuelta have slipped away - and the rumours are spreading that Cav may be on his way out of Sky at the end of the season, which is probably best for him anyway.
thats a long list, and still there are some notable absentees
thats a long list, and still there are some notable absenteesWell that is just the US anti-doping agency list - I'm sure there are plenty of other names on other lists.
Well that is just the US anti-doping agency list - I'm sure there are plenty of other names on other lists.no i know it is, i was thinking of a few Americans who have escaped that list
Yeah - funny that. Often seemed to be during an olympic year too for some reason
DaveArneRiise
03-09-2012, 20:58
Well no, there doesn't need to be a "trial" since Lance has accepted the charges against him. USADA didn't ban him for life because they thought he was innocent.
Lance fought tooth and nail in court to have this case dismissed but lost and his legal team have already threatened action against USADA if they release confidential info. Which means effectively that the evidence may never be made public - you have to wonder why Lance wants that rather than face his accusers and finally clear his name once & for all.
I too would love to see/hear what they have - especially if it's true that George Hincapie was one of the witnesses who gave evidence - he was like a brother to Lance during his Tour victories and his testimony can't be easily dismissed, like Lance has tried to do with other accusers.
Of course this wasn't just about LA, but organised doping throughout a team, so it is possible that we might learn something in Johan Bruyneel's upcoming arbitration case (unless of course he too decides to forego that) - since some of the witnesses will be common to both.
Or if the UCI were to appeal to the CAS since they claimed jurisdiction, details of that would be made public.
New "allegations" are trickling out all the time - so I guess we'll have to wait and see.
As for admitting his guilt - if Lance were ever to do that, it would open the floodgates for lawsuits against him, starting with SCA wanting their $7.5m back for the bonus they paid him for winning 6 tours.
And not admitting guilt means very little anyway - look at some of the names on this list (http://www.usada.org/sanctions/).
Like for example, Floyd Landis who spent hundreds of thousands of dollars of other peoples money "proving his innocence" - and we all know how that worked out for him.
The dozen or so team-mates and colleagues who testified under oath to a Grand Jury that he is guilty probably have a fair idea.
What I do know is that Tyler Hamilton's new book should be an interesting read.
Anyway, on more mundane cycling matters it looks like Chris Froome's chances of a podium on the Vuelta have slipped away - and the rumours are spreading that Cav may be on his way out of Sky at the end of the season, which is probably best for him anyway.
Their credibility isn't anything to write home about though. I'm not saying Lance is innocent I just feels there is more to do it, and I think there is an aspect of truth to the whole witch hunt claim. More will be revealed.
Also I do think there are some clean cyclists out there in fact they are just finishing the tour de france as we speak ;)
Do you seriously believe that they would all lie under oath (including Hincapie)? - just ask Marion Jones how that goes.
Anyway, for anybody who's wondering what all the fuss is about here's the "short version":
http://velocastcc.squarespace.com/race-radio/2012/8/27/lance-armstrong-special-edition.html
Although I say "short" - if you're looking for a way to spend 57 minutes and 26 seconds before Andy's next match, it's well worth a listen
You genuinely think he's guilty? I don't.Changed your mind yet?
Dutch bank Rabobank, the principal sponsor of one of the top teams in cycling, will end their 17-year involvement on December 31.
http://www.sportinglife.com/other-sports/news/article/678/8178248/rabobank-pull-plug-on-cycling
Mark Cavendish has joined Omega Pharma-QuickStep after negotiating a release from Team Sky 12 months into a three-year contract.
http://www.sportinglife.com/other-sports/news/article/678/8175318/new-challenge-for-cavendish
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/20246940) - Bradley Wiggins: Tour de France winner back home after crash
I hope Bradley recovers quickly.
Sallydaisy
19-02-2013, 10:10
The World Track Cycling Championships start tomorrow in Minsk.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21475953
The race for Rio starts here. There are a total of 19 titles to be won at the Minsk Arena over five days of fast and furious action at the 2013 World Track Cycling Championships in Belarus.
It's a bit too early for a Rio Olympics thread isn't it?
Here's an item about Laura Trott's preparation for it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/21461874
World championships on the BBC Wednesday 20 February
1600-1900, Red Button and online
1600, BBC Radio 5 live sports extra
1645-1800, BBC Two and BBC HD
Thursday 21 February
1600-1900, Red Button and online
1600, BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra
1615-1800, BBC Two
Friday 22 February
1600-1900, Red Button and online
1600, BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra
1615-1800, BBC Two
2200-0700, Highlights on the Red Button
Saturday 23 February
1600, BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra
1715-1900, BBC Two/online
2100-2315, Highlights on the Red Button
Sunday 24 February
1100-1405, BBC Two/online
1100, BBC Radio 5 live Sports Extra
2030-2305, Highlights on the Red Button
Sad to read this news of one of our greatest Olympians. :crying:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/othersports/article-2309322/Sir-Chris-Hoy-retire.html
A shame for the Commonwealth Games - it would have been great if Chris could have kept going until then but an understandable retirement. Well done to him for all his achievements.
Congratulations to Chris Froome on winning the Tour de Romandie for Team Sky for the first time after finishing third in the final stage. He had a 54 second advantage over Simon Spilak. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :trophy:
This is his third tour victory this year - he has also won the Tour of Oman and Criterium International - and he is expected to lead Team Sky in the Tour de France.
JAMES4578
28-04-2013, 15:26
Great stuff,well done Chris!
And the last 2 winners of the Tour de Romandie have gone on to win in Paris!
Well done Mark winning the first stage of the Giro'd'Italia.
Good luck to Bradley. :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
Congratulations to Vincenzo Nibali on winning the Giro d'Italia and to Mark Cavendish winning the points red jersey.
Mark clinched the red points with victory in the sprint on the final stage while Vincenzo Nibali wrapped up the overall win.
Mark won five stages and the win means he's now won the points jersey in all three grand tours.
:boogie: :cheer::cheer: :cheer:
traveller7
17-07-2013, 21:57
Been watching the tour de france at the moment Chris Froome looks set to win it if he keeps up his form. He has had the yellow jersey for 10 days out of 17 and won 3 stages. He has a 4'34min advantage on the guy in 2nd place. Vey exciting oh and he happens to be British!
Well, as British as a Kenyan born, South African educated cyclist can be... ;)
traveller7
18-07-2013, 10:07
Ha yes there is that lol
I've just signed a petition to allow women to compete in the Tour de France https://www.change.org/petitions/aso-amaury-sports-organization-allow-female-professional-cycling-teams-to-race-the-tour-de-france?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29025&alert_id=zlHBBIYtgu_uwQRVFbuJv
traveller7
18-07-2013, 19:20
Froome now has a 5'11min lead over everyone despite having a bad race today including a 20 sec penalty for taking on food too late.
I've just signed a petition to allow women to compete in the Tour de France https://www.change.org/petitions/aso-amaury-sports-organization-allow-female-professional-cycling-teams-to-race-the-tour-de-france?utm_source=action_alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=29025&alert_id=zlHBBIYtgu_uwQRVFbuJv
Waste of time unless they change the stage cutoff rules at the same time ;)
Froome will be particularly keen to prove that he could have won last year but for team orders. He hasn't had as high a level of team support this year as Brad had last year either.
Well done Chris. :bravo: :cheer::cheer: :cheer: :GBflag:
traveller7
20-07-2013, 15:25
Bar any accidents god forbid the title is his. Well done Chris! :dance:
What's the betting Froome doesn't get anywhere near the acclaim that Wiggins had last year.
traveller7
20-07-2013, 23:59
What's the betting Froome doesn't get anywhere near the acclaim that Wiggins had last year.
Yes I get that feeling, even one of the commentators Chris Boardman doesnt sound excited at the outcome beggars belief its such a hard thing to win!
david1610
21-07-2013, 02:07
But there is a real chance of winning again next year. You rarely get somebody who can do the business on time trials AND climbing like Chris Froome can!
With Wiggins though it was down to the size of his personality, as well as the fact that he then went on to the Olympics. Chris Froome doesn't seek the limelight.
What's the betting Froome doesn't get anywhere near the acclaim that Wiggins had last year.
He won't get the acclaim because he'll be considered a Kenyan/South African just as Justin Rose wasn't credited with his US Open win because he's considered a South African. ;)
Probably all the headlines will go to Quintana for finishing second and winning the King of the Mountains and Junior Rider titles. The commentators have already lined him up as the winner of the TdF next year!!!
:cauldron:
He won't get the acclaim because he'll be considered a Kenyan/South African just as Justin Rose wasn't credited with his US Open win because he's considered a South African. ;)
:cauldron:
Seems odd to me that people are quite happy to take Mo Farrah -who is a Somalian - to their hearts and yet are not willing to accept Froome and Rose - very strange!
traveller7
21-07-2013, 18:39
Hear hear. If he wants to ride for us why should we chastise him for it, we should embrace him!
Go Froome!
traveller7
21-07-2013, 20:28
Nice well thought out speech from Chris, dedicated his win to his late mum.
Shame that cavendish couldnt quite make the line to win today but overall a good tour for us,
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23399875)- Tour de France: Chris Froome wins 100th edition of race
itv (http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/) - Tour de France page
Eurosport (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/cycling/tour-de-france/) - Tour de France page
JAMES4578
22-07-2013, 10:18
Fab to see a Brit win the second consecutive Tour De France, well done Chris!
Had no idea Justin Rose was South African - always assumed he was a Brit.
david1610
24-07-2013, 02:41
Have the feeling that Cav was under the weather during the tour. Having said that, first time in years somebody has come along and thrown down the gauntlet to him!
traveller7
22-09-2013, 16:33
Bradley Wiggins just won Tour of Britain with Mark Cavendish winning the last stage. Well done chaps.
Well done Chris Froome for winning his 3rd Tour de France. :clap:
awwwww - his wee son had a yellow jersey on.
RosieBear
24-07-2016, 18:13
Well done Chris Froome for winning his 3rd Tour de France. :clap:
awwwww - his wee son had a yellow jersey on.
Absolutely tremedous. Only British man to win it 3 times :clap::clap::clap:.... I might just let him win SPOTY this year ahead of Andy......nope, cant do it#Vote Andy
Absolutely tremedous. Only British man to win it 3 times :clap::clap::clap:.... I might just let him win SPOTY this year ahead of Andy......nope, cant do it#Vote Andy
Glad you changed your mind! #VoteAndy!!
Absolutely tremedous. Only British man to win it 3 times :clap::clap::clap:.... I might just let him win SPOTY this year ahead of Andy......nope, cant do it#Vote Andy
Glad you changed your mind! #VoteAndy!!!
JAMES4578
24-07-2016, 19:49
Fabulous for Chris and some achievement, well done!:clap::clap::clap:
Congratulations to Chris Froome - brilliant achievement. :bravo:
Congratulations too to Adam Yates Young Rider. :bravo:
traveller7
25-07-2016, 11:37
Great win for Froome and Adam Yates has a great future ahead of him.
Bradley Wiggins retires - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/38451926
JAMES4578
28-12-2016, 19:17
Suppose was on the cards,certainly Bradley leaves a few great memories!
After the 10th stage of the Tour de France Chris Froome has claimed his 50th yellow jersey. :thumbup:
the beeb sports has a long article by Tom Fordyce on Chris Froome http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40692045
including a passage from Geraint Thomas which must be rather similar to Andy Murray's warm down I think - "Being in yellow takes at least half an hour away from your recovery every day," says Thomas, who spent four days on top of the GC standings this month.
"You finish the stage, you try to do your warm-down, then it's on to the podium, and that's the good bit. Then you have to do TV and radio, and you get asked the same two questions 15 times, which gets quite monotonous when you're already so tired.
"You then speak to the print media, you go into another press conference, and then doping control. If you can get the job done in doping control you can be in and out in 10 minutes. If it's been a hot day and you're dehydrated, you can be in there for an hour. All the other guys will be straight onto the team bus to do their warm-down, get some food down them and put their feet up.
Well done Chris :clap: :clap: :clap:
Yes, well done Chris. Phenomenal achievement. I didn't see any of the final day but I was very disappointed with the Marseilles crowd's attitude towards Chris yesterday. Of course they were hoping that their guy would beat Chris in the time trial but to boo him at the start and at the finish was very poor. I for one would be delighted if Chris were to win Spoty this year if Andy doesn't.
Well done Chris - a brilliant achievement.
Well done Simon Yates on the Best Young rider award.
Yes, well done Chris. Phenomenal achievement. I didn't see any of the final day but I was very disappointed with the Marseilles crowd's attitude towards Chris yesterday. Of course they were hoping that their guy would beat Chris in the time trial but to boo him at the start and at the finish was very poor. I for one would be delighted if Chris were to win Spoty this year if Andy doesn't.
The French just can't accept that Froome is clean. Constantly all but accused of cheating in the French press.
JAMES4578
23-07-2017, 22:49
Awesome for Chris, well done! Good for Simon Yates too!
Yes, well done Chris. Phenomenal achievement. I didn't see any of the final day but I was very disappointed with the Marseilles crowd's attitude towards Chris yesterday. Of course they were hoping that their guy would beat Chris in the time trial but to boo him at the start and at the finish was very poor. I for one would be delighted if Chris were to win Spoty this year if Andy doesn't.
I too would be delighted if Chris were to win Spoty award. It's time his achievements were recognised in this country.
Tour de France 2017: Is Chris Froome Britain's least loved great sportsman? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/40692045)
Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/jul/23/sky-chris-froome-tour-de-france?CMP=share_btn_tw) - Sky’s the limiting factor for Chris Froome in Tour de France popularity stakes. Briton’s four wins place him in exalted company, but team’s image prevents fans from properly celebrating his achievements.
The questions regarding Team Sky remain. They do not touch Froome directly, but are bound to detract from his moment of triumph. Having announced during the Tour that he will ride a further two years at Sky, he and the squad are bound together. The issues unveiled in the past nine months, at the centre of UK Anti-Doping’s inquiry into allegations of possible wrongdoing, make a grim list, starting with 55 doses of the performance-enhancing corticosteroid triamcinolone acquired between 2010 and 2013, with no clear explanation of what it was all used for; Froome, however, has told the Guardian he did not use any of the triamcinolone and was not offered any.
Add in the delivery of testosterone patches to the then team doctor Richard Freeman, claimed to have been a mistake; allegations of widespread use of the painkiller tramadol; curiously timed Therapeutic Use Exemptions for Wiggins, coinciding with major target events. All this on top of the hiring of a doctor, Geert Leinders, who is now banned for life for misdeeds connected with his previous team, Rabobank.
Very best of luck to Chris Froome tomorrow in the final stage of La Vuelta. Hope he stays safe. It really sounds scarey.
http://www.lne.es/deportes/2017/06/20/plaza-roja-angliru/2123364.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cycling/41162526
Tremendous stage today. Don't often get to watch, but in bed with man flu so made the most of it. Froome cementing the Tour victory but an unbelievable ride from Contador to win the final mountain stage of his career.
Fantastic effort by Chris who will become only the third man and the first Brit to win both La Vuelta and the TdF in the same season.
Hope he stays on his bike tomorrow in the ride into Madrid.
What shouldn’t be overlooked in that was the ride by Froome. Everyone was gunning for him today but he ends the stage pulling away from his rivals and adding to his lead. Bear in mind that no one has done this double since the Vuelta was moved to post-Tour in 1995.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/live/2017/sep/09/vuelta-a-espana-chris-froome-grand-tour-double-stage-20-live
Think they said he was the first Brit to win the Vuelta full stop. Wonder if he might focus on the Giro next year. Must be a massive temptation to attempt to hold all 3 at the same time.
Congratulations to Chris Froome :bravo: :trophy: :GBflag:
Chris adds Vuelta victory to his four Tour de France titles, and becomes only the third rider in history to win the Tour de France and the Vuelta in the same year.
Read more at http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/vuelta-a-espana/chris-froome-seals-historic-vuelta-espana-victory-matteo-trentin-wins-stage-21-350539#RszdltqQHgx8vA1i.99
It'd be great to see Chris add the Giro to his list of achievements but think he will stay focused on winning another TdF.
Josephine
05-03-2018, 10:16
Quite an indictment of Team Sky and British Cycling
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/43281807
roytennisfan
05-03-2018, 11:13
Damming evidence, blatantly obvious they are getting away with coverups and Wiggins should have his 2012 wins taken off him.
I've been saying for years that the exceptions given to asthmatics (in all sports, including tennis) are unfair.
To be honest with you I am increasingly of the opinion that no sport is truly clean. I think there is so much money involved that morality has been sacrificed for financial gain. I agree about the misuse of TUE’s.
Sad to read this about Bradley Wiggins especially when we are remembering Sir Roger Bannister. :sad:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bradley-wiggins-team-sky-drug-use-roger-bannister-sport-pure-uk-a8240591.html
Yorkshire are in talks in hosting the start of the Vuelta a Espana. They're also hosting the world road cycling championships next year.
Chris Froome has won the treble by victory in the Giro d'Italia.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/44272406
Well done Chris :bravo: :trophy: :GBflag:
I don't know how he managed this because from the reports about the tour there was no mention of him just Simon Yates.
Well done Chris :clap:
Can't understand why they are relaxing so much and talking at the end though, when there is only 46 seconds in it.
Chris Froome has won the treble by victory in the Giro d'Italia.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/44272406
Well done Chris :bravo: :trophy: :GBflag:
I don't know how he managed this because from the reports about the tour there was no mention of him just Simon Yates.3 days from the end, Froome went 80 km from the end of the stage and won it by enough to take the lead. Yates blew up that day.
Well done Chris :clap:
Can't understand why they are relaxing so much and talking at the end though, when there is only 46 seconds in it.In all the Grand Tours, the last day is always a procession, only the sprints are competitive.
3 days from the end, Froome went 80 km from the end of the stage and won it by enough to take the lead. Yates blew up that day.
One of the best individual rides that I can ever remember seeing.
In all the Grand Tours, the last day is always a procession, only the sprints are competitive.
Always think it's a pretty lame way to end such a test of endurance. Best ending I remember was LeMond beating Fignon in a time trial on the Champs Elysees in 1989. (Riders or year may be wrong haven't checked Google)
This is really great news for Chris Froome, Team Sky and British cycling as well as Chris' family, friends and his supporters.
Cycling’s world governing body, the UCI, has announced that it has closed its case against Chris Froome.
The World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) accepted that Team Sky rider Froome’s sample results from the 2017 Vuelta a España – which showed a high level of salbutamol – did not constitute an adverse analytical finding, the UCI said in its statement.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/jul/02/chris-froome-cleared-by-uci-in-anti-doping-investigation
Best of luck to Chris in the Tour de France that starts on Saturday. :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
The Tour of Britain starts in Cranbrook tomorrow. I think it's about three miles away from where I live.
Sallydaisy
02-09-2018, 07:45
The Tour of Britain starts in Cranbrook tomorrow. I think it's about three miles away from where I live.
Actually it starts near Llanelli in South WalesTODAY.
Cranbrook is the start point for Mon 3rd Sept.
Really sad news of Chris Froome. Hope he recovers well - such a shame just before the Tour de France. :sad:
https://twitter.com/chrisfroome
Chris Froome is in intensive care and "not in great shape" after suffering serious multiple fractures in a high-speed crash, his team principal Dave Brailsford told BBC Sport.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/48617835
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