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cazza99
27-04-2017, 21:28
Main thread

Bardot
12-05-2017, 09:43
Andy's prospective route to the 2nd round:

R1: Bye

I fancy his chances. :p

Hawkeye
12-05-2017, 10:40
Main thread

http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?2808-ROME-2017-14-21-May ???

Bardot
12-05-2017, 17:11
Nobody look beyond the 2nd round but tradition dictates ;), Andy's prospective route to the final:

R1: Bye
R2: Fognini/Berrettini
R3: A.Zverev
QF: Raonic
SF: Wawrinka
F: Djokovic/Nadal

QFs
Andy v Raonic
Wawrinka v Cilic
Nadal v Thiem
Djokovic v Nishikori

Bardot
12-05-2017, 17:17
Dan v Vesely and Kyle v Sousa. Other notable first rounds, Dimitrov v Del Potro and Kyrgios v Bautista-Agut.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_pHAF2XcAAEJx9.jpg

banskogirl
12-05-2017, 17:38
Andy's prospective route to the 2nd round:

R1: Bye

I fancy his chances. :p

:cauldron:

Alis
12-05-2017, 17:58
Wow - what a draw!!

Teresa
12-05-2017, 18:06
Good or bad?

Alis
12-05-2017, 19:29
Could it have been more difficult?

Teresa
12-05-2017, 19:56
Raonic is not on form. Wawrinka went out earlier than Murray. The other side with Del P, Kyrgios, Thiem, Nishikori, Ferrer, Careno Busta, etc seems far worse - or is it me? He could have got a Nadal on his side.

patlowe
12-05-2017, 20:03
But also, (as we well know!), draws don't always work out as projected, so it's hardly worth getting too bothered about it just yet...one match at a time! ;)

Alis
12-05-2017, 20:10
To be honest - I didn't look at the other side of the draw - that is equally as difficult!

WimbledonWestie
12-05-2017, 21:18
Hmmm, Fognini is a tricky firstmatch prospect.... but looking on bright side hopefully the Italians will see this as prime time viewing and put it on late meaning I actually get to see Andy.

patlowe
13-05-2017, 16:20
I see Copil lost his qualifier today in Rome! And Aljaz won!! :clap::clap:

patlowe
13-05-2017, 16:29
Foggy and Berrettini second match up in the morning! :nailbiter:

Alis
13-05-2017, 17:08
I think Fognini could be a very difficult test for Andy - especially as he is on his home turf.

Bardot
13-05-2017, 17:13
Even with Fognini/Berrettini playing tomorrow you'd think it very unlikely Andy's first match will be on Monday.

http://i65.tinypic.com/mn2er8.png

Linda
13-05-2017, 17:25
I think Fognini could be a very difficult test for Andy - especially as he is on his home turf. I agree - I'm sure Fognini on clay in Italy would not be Andy's preferred first match of the tournament!

We'll just have to hope that it's crazy Fognini that turns up, rather than clay wizard Fognini!

Bardot
13-05-2017, 17:41
Fognini is the only one to take a set off Nadal in Madrid this week. Maybe 21 year old wild card Berrettini(#250) playing his first ever ATP tour main draw match tomorrow will take care of him. ;)

Kyrgios withdrew from his doubles SF match in Madrid today with a hip injury and has tweeted he hopes to be fit for Rome. Nishikori also hopes to be fit to play. Both are in Djokovic's quarter.

banskogirl
13-05-2017, 19:53
I agree - I'm sure Fognini on clay in Italy would not be Andy's preferred first match of the tournament!

We'll just have to hope that it's crazy Fognini that turns up, rather than clay wizard Fognini!

Perhaps this is just what could spark Andy to life! We all know how much he loves a challenge :)

angiebabez
13-05-2017, 22:41
Come on champ. You can turn this around..

We believe in you!!!

karanga
13-05-2017, 23:08
Very best of luck Andy :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

lovetennis
14-05-2017, 14:29
So, Fabio it is. C'mon Andy you love a challenge

Mickey
14-05-2017, 14:58
I was getting so depressed, when I came on the forum, because of the negativity that seems to be rife. May I remind you things can turn very quickly, also last year both Federer and Nadal were written off.
Lendl was not due to arrive until a week on Monday, and as Andy said he has long sessions with him every Monday so Andy his team and Lendl will be examining how Andy is playing and working on strategies.
Stan W has not been doing too well either, in fact he went out earlier. As for Nole he was given a WO and I think he would have lost to K N.
I am convinced that Andy will turn things around and once he starts winning then his confidence will return and anything can happen, as we saw last year.
Have faith in Andy and send positive vibes to him :thumbup::grouphug:

Alis
14-05-2017, 15:21
To be fair, Mickey, I think a lot of people on this forum have been very positive about Andy's prospects - which I know is not always the case elsewhere.

RosieBear
14-05-2017, 15:57
I don't think anyone doubts Andy's ability to start winning again, it's more that they have been frustrated on Andy's behalf because he hasn't been able to snatch golden opportunities to gain points before the second half of the year win he has to win virtually everything just to break even. Even if Andy does turn it around right now, and wins Rome he's just breaking even. It's not being negative, it's being factual - the major chances to bank mega points were in the first half of the year, they have been and gone. Seriously frustrating for Andy and for us, but nothing to be done, so look forward not back Andy - win in Bella Roma! You CAN do it, laddie.

Mickey
14-05-2017, 16:13
Sorry I felt the negativity and it did depress me, but happy those who didn't.

patlowe
14-05-2017, 16:45
Many of us expressed concern, as Andy himself did. I don't think that's being negative...just realistic and showing empathy with Andy. Concern about someone shows you care about them and want nothing only the best for them and I definitely think that is the case with most of us here. We all want more than anything to see Andy firing on all cylinders again, and that is going to happen! We go through all the highs and lows with him in equal measure and are always with him no matter what! I call that optimism.

Bardot
14-05-2017, 17:24
Aljaz & Kyle on tomorrow's schedule. Aljaz has drawn wild card Mager with the winner playing Djokovic in the 2nd round.

http://i65.tinypic.com/34fog43.png

scrapaddict
14-05-2017, 18:23
Del potro and Dimitrov should be interesting

Stell
15-05-2017, 08:18
Happy birthday to Sir Andy.

I read, yesterday, Sir Andy would be playing Fognini today. I don't know where the idiot got his/her information from.

Josephine
15-05-2017, 08:19
Just goes to show you can't believe everything you read!:thumbup:

Hawkeye
15-05-2017, 10:14
If it wasn't Bardot who said it, don't believe it!

Bardot
15-05-2017, 17:04
http://i63.tinypic.com/t8ov9w.png

RosieBear
16-05-2017, 14:54
C'mon Goffin, finish off the comeback :cheer:

lynne
16-05-2017, 14:56
Come on Daveed!!!.....:):)


YESSSSS! Daveed beats Lopez ....4-6, 6-3, 6-1!!!!........ ====== 700 :cheer:


Now COMEONNNN....GOFFIN!!!!

RosieBear
16-05-2017, 15:22
Goffin takes decider 6-2. Mighty impressive comeback from a set down against Nando on clay. :bravo: Goff.

lynne
17-05-2017, 11:24
Come On Daveed!!!..... Sorry Rosiebear! 😁

lynne
17-05-2017, 11:33
Never mind Daveed done well to get this far..... Well Done Keith 7-5, 6-2!

Pam
17-05-2017, 12:27
Almagro has injured his knee at 0-3 and has retired so Rafa goes through

cazza99
17-05-2017, 14:53
oop for Wednesday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/rome/416/daily-schedule

cazza99
17-05-2017, 20:08
oop for Thursday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/rome/416/daily-schedule

Gary D
18-05-2017, 11:07
It looks like Fognini's going no further, down a set & a break to young Zverev.....warning from umpire Lahyani, .... mentally he's lost it.

Bardot
18-05-2017, 11:11
Fruitloop Fabio on show today unlike the fabby Fabio Andy faced. :rolleyes: For me his behaviour is far worse than Kyrgios and he'll be 30 next week. There's pleasure to be had watching him being thumped by Zverev. :shades:

supergran
18-05-2017, 11:32
Well there we are.....Fognini out.

Bardot
18-05-2017, 11:38
Fognini shakes hands with Lahyani telling him he's "******* unbelievable". :rolleyes:

patlowe
18-05-2017, 11:40
:angry::angry: That makes me so cross! Why did THAT Foggy not show up the other night! It is so typical of what happens! Anyway, I am sure Andy will get another chance soon to show who REALLY is the best. Just go and be a daddy, Foggy!!

patlowe
18-05-2017, 11:42
Fognini shakes hands with Lahyani telling him he's "f****** unbelievable". :rolleyes:
Heard that, and it was immediately followed by an apology from the commie!

Bardot
18-05-2017, 11:53
Surely these two incidents alone warranted Fognini being defaulted. Manhandling Lahyani (https://twitter.com/morunien/status/865159874547638272) and kicking the linesman's chair. (https://twitter.com/doublefault28/status/865156919161483264)

patlowe
18-05-2017, 12:00
And Goffin has fallen to Cilic.

RosieBear
18-05-2017, 12:07
I used to really like Fabio until a couple of years when at the Shanghai masters he full on shoulder-barged a young Chinese player who couldn't have been more than 18 during a changeover. The poor kid looked very upset and utterly bewildered. Unbelievably good tennis on his day, but Fabio's got quite a nasty side to him.

Caro
18-05-2017, 12:25
I used to really like Fabio until a couple of years when at the Shanghai masters he full on shoulder-barged a young Chinese player who couldn't have been more than 18 during a changeover. The poor kid looked very upset and utterly bewildered. Unbelievably good tennis on his day, but Fabio's got quite a nasty side to him.

Yes, I'm not a fan ... remember when he gave the finger to the Barmy Army in Naples?!

Hawkeye
18-05-2017, 13:00
They deserved it though!

RosieBear
18-05-2017, 13:14
Yeah the Stirling guys had it coming; cheer your own team, don't heckle the oppo is my DC motto.....Fabio's still a @*"# though :big grin:

Hawkeye
18-05-2017, 16:01
And he had his whole foot on the line!

Josephine
19-05-2017, 08:16
Guess Fabio had good reason not to be focused yesterday:

"Flavia and I are happy to share with you the birth of our son Frederick �� mom and baby are doing well �� @flavia_pennetta "

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Caro
19-05-2017, 08:34
They deserved it though!


Yeah the Stirling guys had it coming; cheer your own team, don't heckle the oppo is my DC motto.....Fabio's still a @*"# though :big grin:


And he had his whole foot on the line!

Yeah ... it was fun though! Good times at that tie despite the loss.

Caro
19-05-2017, 08:37
... And meanwhile back on topic .... being led astray by mods ... tut tut ;) :laugh::laugh:

Happy to see DelPo and Rafa playing well last night. At least I have players I like doing well while waiting for Andy's resurgence :)

Pam
19-05-2017, 09:20
:angry::angry: That makes me so cross! Why did THAT Foggy not show up the other night! It is so typical of what happens! Anyway, I am sure Andy will get another chance soon to show who REALLY is the best. Just go and be a daddy, Foggy!!

Because Andy brings out the best in people!

Pam
19-05-2017, 09:21
I watched the Thiem/Querry match, they both put their heart & soul into it & shame there had to be a loser but Thiem won out, 3-6, 6-3, 7-6, lovely player to watch. Hope he has enough energy left for today against Rafa.

.....and wins lol!!

lynne
19-05-2017, 11:22
I'm hoping lol! 😁

lynne
19-05-2017, 11:28
Heck tried to edit my post to say I had forgot to say Thiem saved three match points to win & I've deleted it instead soooo not use to using my mobile on here lol! So thanks Pam for using it as a quote lol!

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 14:03
Good luck Dominic Thiem! Getting closer to beating Rafa, this is the one :cheer:

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 14:44
How good is Dom?! Playing lights out and double break up against Rafa. 4-1. Hope he can sustain, because he had a tough match yesterday.

Alis
19-05-2017, 14:44
Thiem socking it to Rafa at the moment. I really like this guy - go Dominic!

lynne
19-05-2017, 15:06
Come On Dominic...finish this set...

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:07
Well done Thiem - a fantastic set of tennis. Keep it going!

Really looking forward to Dokovic v Del Potro.

JAMES4578
19-05-2017, 15:08
Thiem certainly had blistering start and holds on to take the first 6-4, however chances would possibly be greater had he served it out the first time.

ljs
19-05-2017, 15:09
wow , keep it going Thiem !!!!!!! :clap::clap:

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 15:10
Really well done by Dom after failing to serve it out first time. Keep going Dom - long way to go but you can do it :swingin:

ljs
19-05-2017, 15:10
Well done Thiem - a fantastic set of tennis. Keep it going!

Really looking forward to Dokovic v Del Potro.

me too Alis , hoping Rafa and Djoko both go out hehe

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:23
Well held. Dominic. 1-1 on serve in the second - keep it going boy!

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:24
me too Alis , hoping Rafa and Djoko both go out hehe

Me too ljs!

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:39
I see Zverev beat Raonic and Isner beat Cilic - great stuff. I'm liking this more and more. C'mon Thiem! Go Delpo!

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:56
Thiem just broke Rafa's serve and is leading 4-3 in the second set.

banskogirl
19-05-2017, 15:58
Looking good for Thiem :) I love Rafa but a bit of a mixture is good when Andy is out!

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:58
Rats - Thiem served a double fault to be 15-40 down on serve. C'mon boyo!

Alis
19-05-2017, 15:59
Back at deuce - this boy is seriously good!

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:02
Thiem holds - it's 5-3 ..... and he's just one game away. C'mon Dom!!!

banskogirl
19-05-2017, 16:02
Phew and now 5-3!

and I have to go turn down the dinner!

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 16:02
Unbelievable from Dom to get the break - this kid has got serious game :clap:

Edit: I'm behind - well done on the hold as well Dom for 5-3. Come on!!!

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:03
The dogs are telling me it's time for a walk - not yet babies!

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:05
Deuce on Rafa's serve - c'monnnnnn!

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:06
Match point, folks!

lynne
19-05-2017, 16:07
Brilliant result...Well Done Young Dominic!!!:thumbup:

Jane
19-05-2017, 16:07
Great stuff from Thiem giving him the win :yahoo: :yahoo:

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:07
..................... and he's done it!!! Well played Dominic Thiem - that was absolutley awesome!!!!!:dance::dance::dance:

Jan
19-05-2017, 16:07
Wow!

ljs
19-05-2017, 16:09
WooooHoooo , what a great match from Thiem !!!
That seriously made my day :cheer::cheer:

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:09
Now, I just need Delpo to beat Djoko and my cup will runneth over!!

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 16:10
Absolutely wonderful, so so happy for Dom! He's got a fantastic power and precision game and a brilliant temperament - closer, closer ....WIN (in straights no less!). He's always been my pick for the next gen big winner, and I've never felt more sure of that. Hope he can win whole thing! Go DOM!!!!

JAMES4578
19-05-2017, 16:13
Fabulous performance from Thiem to get the win over Nadal, well done! Came through the crunch times really well in confident display, perhaps Rafa couldn't quite produce his best today but was constantly under pressure from Thiem's attack.

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:40
I really hope that Thiem can take the title now - go Dom!

Alis
19-05-2017, 16:43
................ and Svitolina beats Pliskova - who'd have thought it?

patlowe
19-05-2017, 16:45
It's certainly all been happening today! Had to be out a lot and missed the fun! Glad Dom got the win....and now, one more important match to go...GO DELPO!!

Pam
19-05-2017, 17:58
Come on DELPO!!!

cazza99
19-05-2017, 18:16
oop for Saturday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/rome/416/daily-schedule

Linda
19-05-2017, 19:02
I thought that Thiem might win this time. I like him to watch and I see him shaping up to be the successor to Rafa as King of Clay. I hope he wins the tournament now.

lovetennis
19-05-2017, 19:47
C'mon Delpo :jitterbug:

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 19:58
Good luck, Delpo!:peace: (but mainly just want a good match:thumbup:)

Alis
19-05-2017, 20:02
You're so much more charitable than I am, RB - go Delpo!

lovetennis
19-05-2017, 20:05
Could watch Delpo's forehand all day, what a weapon

Pam
19-05-2017, 20:20
Oh I'm not going to watch this if Djokovic is going to win easily! :sad:

lovetennis
19-05-2017, 20:22
Oh I'm not going to watch this if Djokovic is going to win easily! :sad:

Hoping Delpo can get going though this set looks like it's a goner

RosieBear
19-05-2017, 20:48
This match is a total snoozefest :sleepy:

Jane
19-05-2017, 20:51
I see lots of lightning :rain:

pabbers
19-05-2017, 21:48
Brilliant match between Thiem and Rafa! Thiem was on fire. I think playing Rafa 3 times in a row in quick succession, apart from being 3rd time lucky, meant Thiem learned from each experience, clearly improved on the second meeting and was able to put his winning game plan into practice without having to wait too long between matches against Rafa. Rafa played some brilliant shots on the odd occasion when Dom let him. But that was the issue. Not Rafa playing below par, but Dom not allowing Rafa to get a look in.
Although I wouldn't have minded which of them won, I'm quite pleased, again, to see the points being spread around so no one gets too close to Andy during his down phase. If Thiem can keep this form going, then even RG is not a given for Rafa. T'would be handy to see 2000 points going elsewhere other than Nole or Rafa or Fed if Andy can't do well.

Alis
19-05-2017, 22:21
If Andy doesn't win RG, I'd love Thiem to win it.

cazza99
20-05-2017, 09:17
oop for Saturday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/rome/416/daily-schedule

Nole vs Del Potro resumes not before 12.30 pm UK time.

Jane
20-05-2017, 10:34
The preceding ladies match is just about to start

exislander
20-05-2017, 12:29
Djokovic breaks for 3-2 second set.

exislander
20-05-2017, 12:55
And wins it 6-4

Jane
20-05-2017, 12:59
:grrr:

HoopGirl
20-05-2017, 13:15
He's recovering his form - now it's time for Andy to recover his!

ljs
20-05-2017, 13:48
Hear Hear HoopGirl !!!

RosieBear
20-05-2017, 14:27
C'mon Big John (baby Z has got plenty of time to reach a masters final).

RosieBear
20-05-2017, 14:35
He's recovering his form - now it's time for Andy to recover his!



Not for long because Dom is going to batter him tonight :thumbup: - spot on about Andy though!

RosieBear
20-05-2017, 14:44
Isner takes breaker to level the match.

Teresa
20-05-2017, 14:45
Well done big John. He has levelled it against Zverev. Nothing against Zverev, but big John has been the bridesmaid too many times. He didn't spoil the DC party or the Paris final last year, so am rooting for him.

RosieBear
20-05-2017, 15:11
Think John's running out of steam :sad:

RosieBear
20-05-2017, 15:20
Sascha takes it :clap: Fair enough he can only play who is front of him but he's had exceptional luck getting to his first masters final - no Andy, or Stan because Isner took him down.

I feel the overall winner will come from the other semi.

supergran
20-05-2017, 15:53
Must confess I kept nodding off during the match.:sleepy::big grin:

Linda
20-05-2017, 18:21
Eek! Come on, Thiem! :swingin:

dewster99
20-05-2017, 18:24
Annoying nole is playing his way back to form while andys struggles continue

WimbledonWestie
20-05-2017, 18:30
I'm preferring to see it as proof that anything Novak can do Andy can do (better). Good times are around the corner (hopefully a very nearby corner). Novak back at his best will be fantastic motivation for Andy!

Linda
20-05-2017, 18:34
Well, I don't want to see Djoko back at his best. It looks like Thiem gave everything he had in the match against Rafa and has nothing left in the tank. :sad:

banskogirl
20-05-2017, 18:35
Come on Dom!!! We don't want a whitewash any more than you do :)

Linda
20-05-2017, 18:38
Or it could be the Rafa curse, which only Djoko seems to be immune to. Whoever beats Rafa always loses in the next round :sad:

Alis
20-05-2017, 18:46
Oh dear - Thiem being blown off the court. Where has this Djoko been? It's ominous that he seems to be having a revival just in time for the French.

Linda
20-05-2017, 18:57
Yes, it's obvious that Thiem is very tired. He has been playing a lot of tennis. What a pity.

banskogirl
20-05-2017, 18:58
Nole does seem really fired up! Is the guru in the box?

Alis
20-05-2017, 18:59
A pity indeed. C'mon Andy - Djoko seems to have found his mojo - where's yours? The tour needs you!!

banskogirl
20-05-2017, 19:06
I think that was Thiem's only chance.................

Alis
20-05-2017, 19:10
Djoko is in an unstoppable mood tonight - he has found his mojo with a vengeance. I just hope this drubbing doesn't do Thiem too much damage. I hope he'll just use it to spur him on.

exislander
20-05-2017, 19:11
I hope Zverev is making a plan for tomorrow!

Alis
20-05-2017, 19:12
You have to hand it to him - that was a Masterclass from Djokovic. I can't stand the guy but he can play tennis.

RosieBear
20-05-2017, 19:13
This is just horrible. Poor Dom has nothing in the tank after gruelling match against Querrey and emotional high yesterday. Personally I'm not convinced by Nole's recovery yet - was very ordinary against a rusty Delpo, and Dom came into this crashed and burned - but if he is on his way back then I'm with Westie, it's good for tennis and Andy.

Linda
20-05-2017, 19:13
:crying: :crying: :crying:

banskogirl
20-05-2017, 19:21
Oh dear :grrr: poor Dom!

Well I hope Nole doesn't win tomorrow but only for ranking points and his ego. Other than that I'm not interested when Andy is out.

HoopGirl
20-05-2017, 19:37
Amazing what firing your team can do!

Alis
20-05-2017, 19:56
Go Sascha!

ljs
20-05-2017, 19:57
shame , was hoping to come home to see Thiem had beaten Djoko :( After watching him take out Rafa , was feeling kinda hopeful that he might win the whole thing !!

didnt see the match but 6-1 ... 6-0 ?? was Thiem really that bad ?

Alis
20-05-2017, 20:13
No - Thiem wasn't that bad - just a bit jaundiced from yesterday's win - but Djoko was very much back on form and not taking any prisoners He just didn't give Thiem any breathing space at all.

ljs
20-05-2017, 20:20
Guess he isnt quite there yet then , you gotta play great for more than a couple of matches to win a masters or a slam
Still think hes gonna get something big in the next few years tho

So its Djoko / Zverev then ...... cmon Zverev !!!!!!!

WimbledonWestie
20-05-2017, 23:58
Novak blew kei off court at the O2 so could still be a false dawn. Time will tell.

Linda
21-05-2017, 14:59
First set to Zverev. Vamos!

Jane
21-05-2017, 14:59
Zverev gets the first set - 6 - 4 :boogie: :dance:

lovetennis
21-05-2017, 15:00
Sascha takes the 1st set :clap:

exislander
21-05-2017, 15:00
Yes, Zverev broke 1st game and never looked back!

banskogirl
21-05-2017, 15:00
Yes! :) Keep it going zverev!

JAMES4578
21-05-2017, 15:07
Sacha certainly impressive and Djokovic a bit uncertain, can he keep it going though!

Alis
21-05-2017, 15:08
C'mon Sascha!!

supergran
21-05-2017, 15:10
Really enjoying this match though I couldn't find thread earlier.:facepalm:

RosieBear
21-05-2017, 15:10
C'mon Sascha, really not a fan of his ball basher game, but obvs.would help Andy of Novak didn't gain points. Not much sign of Novak's "resurgence" yet.

Jane
21-05-2017, 15:13
Sascha breaks :dance:

Teresa
21-05-2017, 15:13
And Zverev breaks in the second. Good man do it for Murray.

Alis
21-05-2017, 15:20
Keep it going, Sascha!

JAMES4578
21-05-2017, 15:29
Sacha in strong position, just hope he remains confident and doesn't allow Nole back in.

Alis
21-05-2017, 15:37
A pity Sascha didn't manage the insurance break there but, never mind, just keep holding serve lad!

exislander
21-05-2017, 15:41
Djokovic got a warning for audible swearing!

Jane
21-05-2017, 15:43
Fantastic result - well done Sascha :yahoo: :yahoo: :cheer: :cheer: :clap: :clap: :big grin:

Linda
21-05-2017, 15:44
Makes a change - normally he gets away with it by swearing in Serbian!

Linda
21-05-2017, 15:44
Zverev wins! :cheer:

lynne
21-05-2017, 15:44
Novak blew kei off court at the O2 so could still be a false dawn. Time will tell.


mmmmm Maybe you were just right there WWestie!!!:thumbup:



Brilliiant concentration & play Sasha.......Bravo Young Man!!!!:thumbup::thumbup:

banskogirl
21-05-2017, 15:46
:bravo: that man! Less points Novak :) lightning didn't strike twice then!

lovetennis
21-05-2017, 15:46
Well done Sascha :thumbup:

Very so-so from Djoko. Rumours of him being back to his best are premature I think

Alis
21-05-2017, 15:46
:dance::dance::dance: Fantastic!

ljs
21-05-2017, 15:47
Well Well , wasnt that a great performance !!!! Well Done to Zverev , he's 1 to watch going forward for sure .

Refreshing to see a new winner !!!

Teresa
21-05-2017, 15:47
Well done. Not a nerve to be seen. He truly is the next generation. Anyone else think that this young man means the likes of Raonic have now missed the boat?

JAMES4578
21-05-2017, 15:47
Amazing performance from Sacha Zverev to take first Masters, well done!:cheer::cheer: Djokovic still with some work to do but Zverev took it to him, nonetheless would've been more of a challenge serving it out.

Mickey
21-05-2017, 15:48
And we've been spared Djokovic's awful celebration to the spectators.:facepalm: It is so naff, makes me cringe.

Pam
21-05-2017, 15:49
Yay! Well done Sascha! "nil points" for Djokovic me thinks.

RosieBear
21-05-2017, 15:50
Well done Sascha :clap: Though, tbh he rode an extraordinary amount of luck (Andy, Stan, Fabio all by the wayside) to reach his first masters final then faced a still sub par Novak to claim it. Is he a better, more multi-faceted player than the likes of Goff, Dom, Kei, Dimi who are also chasing their first masters? Nope, as you'd expect with a 20 year old, he's got a far from developed game, he got lucky but well done to him on keeping calm and getting the job done (although with big helping hand from Novak).

As for Novak - one swallow does not a summer make. Felt yesterday that talk of his resurgence was premature. It's easy to dole out a beating to oppo that you know is coming into the match physically and mentally gassed - I've watched Dom a lot, and he had nothing in the tank, he's just too much of a decent guy to make excuses.

But Sascha's a likeable kid and result helped Andy, so I'll take it :thumbup:

cazza99
21-05-2017, 15:53
Well done Zverev :clap:

Jan
21-05-2017, 15:55
Yes - well done! :clap:

Josephine
21-05-2017, 15:59
Well done to Zverev. You can only beat who is in front of you as we have said before about Andy. May have had some luck but last few weeks is the start, the very start of Next Gen taking over. Couldn't watch the match as on train. Going through Dunblane pretty soon.

Good for Andy hanging on to No 1 that Nole lost - but as Andy was beaten by Thiem and Coric recently, still a sign of things to come.

supergran
21-05-2017, 16:01
Well done Sacha! Fantastic performance. :clap::cheer: I'm loving the different spellings of the diminutive of Alexander's name.:big grin:

pabbers
21-05-2017, 16:05
Think Sascha played extremely well and whatever may be said about his route to the final and Nole not performing like yesterday, he still had to hold it together. He's very calm. How many players have we seen pluck defeat out of the jaws of victory where Nole is concerned?
Agassi as coach :shocked:.......:grrr:...... Could it be to do with Nole having lost his love for the game and Agassi having hated it?

Alis
21-05-2017, 16:58
Well done Sacha! Fantastic performance. :clap::cheer: I'm loving the different spellings of the diminutive of Alexander's name.:big grin:

According to the ATP and Wikipedia it's 'Sascha'.

themass15
21-05-2017, 17:00
Well done Sascha,!

patlowe
21-05-2017, 17:04
And we've been spared Djokovic's awful celebration to the spectators.:facepalm: It is so naff, makes me cringe.
I totally agree, but equally when he loses I do like his exchanges at the net with the winner!

patlowe
21-05-2017, 17:21
Well done Sascha :clap: Though, tbh he rode an extraordinary amount of luck (Andy, Stan, Fabio all by the wayside) to reach his first masters final then faced a still sub par Novak to claim it. Is he a better, more multi-faceted player than the likes of Goff, Dom, Kei, Dimi who are also chasing their first masters? Nope, as you'd expect with a 20 year old, he's got a far from developed game, he got lucky but well done to him on keeping calm and getting the job done (although with big helping hand from Novak).

As for Novak - one swallow does not a summer make. Felt yesterday that talk of his resurgence was premature. It's easy to dole out a beating to oppo that you know is coming into the match physically and mentally gassed - I've watched Dom a lot, and he had nothing in the tank, he's just too much of a decent guy to make excuses.
But Sascha's a likeable kid and result helped Andy, so I'll take it :thumbup:

You called it yesterday Anna! I did think though that Sascha did well not to let things slip...shows good temperament. 2 'next gen' players in the top 10 now!! As Dom and Sascha are the youngest, I am referring to them. Must confess, I had wondered if Sascha could pull this off, so I am very pleased with this result! :clap::clap:

Alis
21-05-2017, 17:50
I totally agree, but equally when he loses I do like his exchanges at the net with the winner!

I have always thought that Djokovic is a much better loser than winner. He has always been extremely gracious in defeat.

RoastLamb
21-05-2017, 18:18
Well done that German!!! Excellent stuff! :thumbup:

Josephine
21-05-2017, 18:19
As half the next Gen will end up actually at the WTF perhaps they will need an old crocks getting past it a bit special tournament rather than a next Gen one.

May give us a chance of seeing Andy! :thumbup: OK JOKE! But he is 13th in the race. :)

Alis
21-05-2017, 18:58
As half the next Gen will end up actually at the WTF perhaps they will need an old crocks getting past it a bit special tournament rather than a next Gen one.

May give us a chance of seeing Andy! :thumbup: OK JOKE! But he is 13th in the race. :)

It's early days - he'll get there!

LC the fan
21-05-2017, 19:25
Well Done Sascha. OK, Novak was not on full form but he only played as well as he was allowed to. It would have been so easy for a 20-year-old to look across the net, see Djoko and crumble - especially in his first final - but this kid has self belief in spades.
He is going to be an asset to tennis (and perhaps a bit of a pain occasionally to us Murray fans ;)

Alis
21-05-2017, 20:53
Shades of Andy - and Djoko - when they were 20!