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Hawkeye
19-06-2017, 15:58
Someone has said otherwise...

themass15
19-06-2017, 17:07
Jackie and I are in the first row in the North Stand yippee! We may be on the TV

lynne
19-06-2017, 23:13
The Very Best of Luck Andy!!!:thumbup::thumbup:

karanga
19-06-2017, 23:26
Very best of luck Andy. :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

Stell
20-06-2017, 07:34
Should be a straight sets win for Andy.

Josephine
20-06-2017, 11:43
Wondering why they put Andy on 3rd - usually always second. At this rate BBC TV coverage won't last long enough! Raonic and the Kokk still only at 3-3.

Jane
20-06-2017, 11:49
Wondering why they put Andy on 3rd - usually always second. At this rate BBC TV coverage won't last long enough! Raonic and the Kokk still only at 3-3.

BBC will go onto the red button if they run out of time

Jane
20-06-2017, 11:52
Wishing Andy all the very best of luck :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

lynne
20-06-2017, 11:54
Aljaz has pulled out with a wrist injury and Andy will play lucky loser Jordan Thompson (Australian) (I think) according to Eurosport


Jordan Thompson ranked 90 ....... ATP http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/jordan-thompson/tc61/overview

Jan
20-06-2017, 11:59
Poor Aljaz.

JAMES4578
20-06-2017, 12:01
Pity for Aljaz, hopefully Andy fine with Thompson!

jagmad
20-06-2017, 12:56
Third up on Centre for the all-British until someone says otherwise clash!



Doh! That's torn it.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 13:08
Thompson reached the final of Surbiton 10 days ago beating Shapovalov, Kamke, Opelka & Brown before losing to Sugita. He lost in the final round of Queen's qualifying to Chardy in 3 sets.

Alis
20-06-2017, 13:14
Thompson will certainly have had more match practice on the grass than Andy - beware the qualifier!

Stell
20-06-2017, 15:05
Lopez wins, now time for Andy.

JennieF
20-06-2017, 15:08
Milos gone, Stan gone :yikes: Come on Andy!!!!

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 15:17
Ahhhh, my favourite sight in all of tennis....Andy on a grass court... just perfection....go Andy! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

JennieF
20-06-2017, 15:17
Andy Andy! Our wonderful ambassador for humanity. :sirandy: :GBflag:

Stell
20-06-2017, 15:19
Jordan wins the toss and elects to serve.

mickeypops
20-06-2017, 15:20
Go Andy! Qualifiers are tricky, so let's give Andy a wee bit of patience!

Bardot
20-06-2017, 15:24
"King of the Lobs". 30-15

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 15:26
Andy Andy! Our wonderful ambassador for humanity. :sirandy: :GBflag:

And for animals too (which is why I love him sooo much):love:

Bit off topic:shamed:, come on Andy grass court king, your Sixima awaits - let's go! :swingin::swingin::swingin:

Teresa
20-06-2017, 15:35
Nervy start. His serve isn't firing yet. Good hold.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 15:35
Saves 3BPs, tough hold. 1-1

Bardot
20-06-2017, 15:41
Andy with a look at his box which suggests he's been given duff info on Thomo. ;) 1-2

patlowe
20-06-2017, 15:46
You always make me smile Bardot!! :) I'm having difficulty adjusting to the new colour scheme esp as Thompson is wearing the colours we are used to seeing Andy wear!! Lol!!

Bardot
20-06-2017, 15:47
Good hold. 2-2

patlowe
20-06-2017, 15:51
Go Andy! Qualifiers are tricky, so let's give Andy a wee bit of patience!

I think you need to send that message to the commies!! Too quick to criticise IMO!!

Bardot
20-06-2017, 15:55
Comfortable hold. 3-3

patlowe
20-06-2017, 15:57
Why are the commies so impressed with Thompson??!! He's had loads of matches on grass, he's not even meant to be here today so it's an absolute bonus for him and he can go all out as he really hasn't anything to lose and everything to gain!!! Of course he's going to be good.......(for a wee while until our man has him sussed!!!).......

Bardot
20-06-2017, 15:58
Thompson holds to love with 2 aces. 3-4

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:02
Big serve for a love hold. 4-4

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:05
Thompson servbots to hold from 15-30. 4-5

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:08
Another love hold. 5-5

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:12
Andy's had no BPs on Thompson's 6 service games. 5-6

Stell
20-06-2017, 16:19
Tie break, though I was expecting Andy to have won the first set by now.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:19
Good hold. 6-6

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 16:19
Yes! Tiebreak time. Love it. Bp, sp, bp, sp :nailbiter: - Go Andy :cheer:

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:20
Has Andy ever played Thompson before?

Jane
20-06-2017, 16:20
:sofa:

Hawkeye
20-06-2017, 16:21
Has Andy ever played Thompson before?http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/jordan-thompson-vs-andy-murray/TC61/MC10

Hawkeye
20-06-2017, 16:24
:facepalm:

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:24
Andy loses both his service points and hands the advantage to Thompson. C'monnnnnnnnn Andy!!

LC the fan
20-06-2017, 16:25
Can this guy keep this standard up ????

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:26
Lordy. Come on Andeeeeee!

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:26
Welp & crivens! 6-7

Jane
20-06-2017, 16:26
O u c h

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:26
What????

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:27
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! At least Andy's serving first in the second set. C'monnnn Andy!

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 16:27
Oh Andy :oops: - but never mind, early days, not swapping my voodoo doll from Coric to Thompson just yet :p

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:27
A bit of work to do now Andy.......

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:28
At this rate, Eastbourne will be the place to be next week. :p

Speedy Hawk
20-06-2017, 16:29
Lol oh dear. I laughing little here cos so many top players struggle on grass at moment. Even Andy is little. Andy not gonna give up that easy. I sure he win 2nd set and then 3rd. Just need get used grass little and now 1st set done and should be used it now ready 2nd set.

patlowe
20-06-2017, 16:30
Aw come on!! That was only a warm up for Andy!! Watch him go now!!

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:30
So good to see Andy keeping calm and business-like even when he's losing. Unlike me at the moment....

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 16:31
Someone remind Andy his prize money is going to G. Tower ;) :shamed:

JAMES4578
20-06-2017, 16:31
Not going to plan thus far, Thompson certainly with the weapons but not quite sure how Andy lost control of that breaker. Still plenty time to work this out.

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:31
Aw come on!! That was only a warm up for Andy!! Watch him go now!!

So hope you're right, Pat!!!!!

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:32
Lol oh dear. I laughing little here cos so many top players struggle on grass at moment. Even Andy is little. Andy not gonna give up that easy. I sure he win 2nd set and then 3rd. Just need get used grass little and now 1st set done and should be used it now ready 2nd set.
Were you dictating this by any chance SH? ;)

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:32
Great point to hold. 1-0

lovetennis
20-06-2017, 16:34
This is killing me. I'm following live scoreboard on the train. Come on board Andy

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:34
Andy has woken up.

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:35
2 more bps - c'monnnn Andy!

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:36
Just one left - c'monn!

Stell
20-06-2017, 16:36
Andy must have suddenly realised he's the last Brit (apart from Jamie).

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:37
Oh Andy - what a waste.

Speedy Hawk
20-06-2017, 16:37
Were you dictating this by any chance SH? ;)

Haha, if he follow what I say 2nd and 3rd set then YES! He will win.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:39
At least he had BPs. 1-1

clancy
20-06-2017, 16:40
Should have had that break - far too many errors!

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:40
He really let him off the hook there.

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:40
Andy would be more comfortable in a white shirt methinks.

Teresa
20-06-2017, 16:40
My Sky box is dodgy, so I am having to record directly onto DVD. It's not good for my nerves.

Alis
20-06-2017, 16:42
Sooooo many errors! I wish the crowd would get behind him ................. he needs something to give him some energy.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:42
Good serving to hold. 2-1

pabbers
20-06-2017, 16:43
Andy's not "present" it seems to me.

lovetennis
20-06-2017, 16:44
You guys are better than the alleged "live" scoreboard. That's still at 1-0.

Speedy Hawk
20-06-2017, 16:46
Andy T-Shirt totally soaked. Like he been jump in swimming pool and crawl out.

Might be usual for Andy but I don't get see many matches on TV cos it on Sky Sport most time and I don't have Sky.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:46
Thompson holds to 15. 2-2

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:50
Grim. 2-3

dewster99
20-06-2017, 16:50
This is shocking

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:51
Hope this is not another top seed biting the dust. :crying:

Teresa
20-06-2017, 16:51
He is not there today. If it wasn't for the points and the practice I wouldn't be too bothered. He has won it 5 times. Last year was the important one.

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:52
Lobs not working today.

dewster99
20-06-2017, 16:52
Forehand is awful

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:53
He is not there today. If it wasn't for the points and the practice I wouldn't be too bothered. He has won it 5 times. Last year was the important one.
This is such a confidence booster before Wimbledon though.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:53
Thompson holds to love. 2-4

clancy
20-06-2017, 16:54
This is a very poor match by Andy; doesn't seem to have any energy, serve and forehand not performing, now a break down ..... I'm starting to get bad vibes ......

JAMES4578
20-06-2017, 16:54
Chances early in the set and now imploding somewhat, Andy really needs something special now!

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 16:55
Bit baffling but the bottom line is this is Andy's hands. If he wants it enough he'll settle down and find a way through. This is taking nothing from Thompson, who is playing well, but realistically he's not in Andy's league. C'mon Andy up your game - let's go!

Bardot
20-06-2017, 16:57
Great point but not one to lose. 15-40

JennieF
20-06-2017, 16:57
Change your shirt Andy!!!

Speedy Hawk
20-06-2017, 16:57
Awwww. That feel cruel! That awesome play just out.

Stell
20-06-2017, 16:58
I hope the last Brit left won't be Cameron Norrie. I thought he was going out, but now giving Querrey a match.

Teresa
20-06-2017, 16:58
This is such a confidence booster before Wimbledon though.

I know, but after last year I just can't bring myself to be that bothered. I said earlier this year that I didn't think he would go on much into his 30's. His game is so reliant on speed, that as he gets older that inevitably is going to go. I also think his back and knee have to have an impact still. I would rather he retired whilst he had enough give in his joints to run round after his kid(s), than carry on to the point that his joints will be stuffed. Early onset osteo arthritis is no fun at all,

LC the fan
20-06-2017, 16:58
There is no way Andy is going to win this. Nothing is working and he just hasn't arrived today. I just cannot believe he can pull himself out of the mire this time

Speedy Hawk
20-06-2017, 16:58
Change your shirt Andy!!!

I agree. He been swimming looks like. Wet shirt stick to you and sometime can make arm movement little more difficult.

LC the fan
20-06-2017, 17:00
Change your shirt Andy!!!

Wish he had from the beginning - took me a while to pick up on Andy in that shirt (think it took him the whole match to realise who he is)

JennieF
20-06-2017, 17:00
Feeling sick....

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:01
Double welp! 2-5

Teresa
20-06-2017, 17:02
Double break:-(

Speedy Hawk
20-06-2017, 17:02
I know, but after last year I just can't bring myself to be that bothered. I said earlier this year that I didn't think he would go on much into his 30's. His game is so reliant on speed, that as he gets older that inevitably is going to go. I also think his back and knee have to have an impact still. I would rather he retired whilst he had enough give in his joints to run round after his kid(s), than carry on to the point that his joints will be stuffed. Early onset osteo arthritis is no fun at all,

I wasn't expecting Andy do this well at 30s. Federer generation and Tim Henman/Pete Sampras generation don't last that long (except Federer!). It was common drop level play around 28 year old and retire around 30s. Now tennis player seem play much longer Andy's generation and keep higher level much longer too.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:02
At least he can't wear coloured shirts at Wimbledon.

Teresa
20-06-2017, 17:04
I wasn't expecting Andy do this well at 30s. Federer generation and Tim Henman/Pete Sampras generation don't last that long (except Federer!). It was common drop level play around 28 year old and retire around 30s. Now tennis player seem play much longer Andy's generation and keep higher level much longer too.

I think people still underestimate the long term effect of his knee, and the back. He had the back surgery, but inevitably there will be a residual weakness. It might just be kicking in this year.

The push to No 1 last year might have had a long term impact.

Jane
20-06-2017, 17:06
:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:06
Speechless other than Thompson is certainly no Coric. :facepalm:

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:07
Should have entered the doubles.

JennieF
20-06-2017, 17:07
No words........

Alis
20-06-2017, 17:08
Thompson was in the zone and Andy wasn't. The irony is that Thompson will probably lose easily in the next round.

pabbers
20-06-2017, 17:09
And for animals too (which is why I love him sooo much):love:

Bit off topic:shamed:, come on Andy grass court king, your Sixima awaits - let's go! :swingin::swingin::swingin:

I knew I should've done a :cauldron: :crying:
Don't think reaching #1 has brought Andy any luck.

JennieF
20-06-2017, 17:09
The young guns are starting their climb.

RosieBear
20-06-2017, 17:10
:crying: Well I feel just horrible for Andy, world no 1 to lose to LL, and feel Andy will be bothered and disappointed especially as he seemed to be moving in the right direction after RG.


In that regard, Teresa...


I know, but after last year I just can't bring myself to be that bothered. I said earlier this year that I didn't think he would go on much into his 30's. His game is so reliant on speed, that as he gets older that inevitably is going to go. I also think his back and knee have to have an impact still. I would rather he retired whilst he had enough give in his joints to run round after his kid(s), than carry on to the point that his joints will be stuffed. Early onset osteo arthritis is no fun at all,


I've read a few posts saying you're not bothered about this or that for Andy..but do you never want things for Andy because Andy wants them for himself? I don't mean this as a dig, just curious, don't you think it's not about what fans want but about Andy's wants and hopes?:shrug:

dewster99
20-06-2017, 17:10
At least the other early losses were on a less favoured surface against decent players at tournaments he doesn't do well at generally. This was just a joke. Maybe he's only turning up at slams this year

lynne
20-06-2017, 17:10
What can you say apart from well played Jordan.........speechless! Have to say Andy really did not look happy going off court!

patlowe
20-06-2017, 17:11
All I can do is sit here and shake my head in disbelief. I really really thought Andy would weather this storm. All the top seeds gone!! Queens a very different tournament now!! Aw well!! We'll have to move on!! Nothing more to say.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:11
Nope, this is by far the worst.

Stuart Fraser‏ @stu_fraser
That is Andy Murray's worst defeat by ranking on grass since losing to world No 90 Mardy Fish here at Queen's in 2010.

JennieF
20-06-2017, 17:12
Hope Andy goes home to enjoy playing with Sophia in the garden.

JAMES4578
20-06-2017, 17:14
So frustrating, certainly Thomson impressed at times but Andy didn't really perform. Though of course he's had some early defeats at Queen's coupled with the great success, shouldn't affect his confidence for Wimbledon too much. However, work to do on the grass and to fathom out how he couldn't get fired up for this match.

kenny009uk
20-06-2017, 17:14
At least the other early losses were on a less favoured surface against decent players at tournaments he doesn't do well at generally. This was just a joke. Maybe he's only turning up at slams this year

Yeah I agree . His worst performance of the year.

Jan
20-06-2017, 17:14
There didn't seem to be any energy or spark there today for Andy.

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:15
If not Eastbourne then the cougars at Boodles may be in for a treat. ;)

JennieF
20-06-2017, 17:15
There are some interesting young Aussie players ready to climb up the rankings. Is this the start of an Aussie revival? I remember the days when they dominated! (Yes I'm getting on a bit!)

lynne
20-06-2017, 17:16
There didn't seem to be any energy or spark there today for Andy.


Have to agree with you there Jan, very lethargic!

HoopGirl
20-06-2017, 17:18
Is Andy still carrying an injury?
His forehands an issue - is the elbow an issue?

Bardot
20-06-2017, 17:20
It will be a while before Andy can break this record again.


Stuart Fraser‏ @stu_fraser
Murray's run of breaking serve in 136 consecutive matches (stretching back to 2015 US Open) comes to an end as he fails to break today.

murrayfan89
20-06-2017, 17:20
Maybe we might be seeing a similar year to 2012 where Andy was inconsistent in the smaller events but great in the slams.

lynne
20-06-2017, 17:24
The thing is, if Andy has a good run at Wimbledon, nobody will be bothered about this loss, so let's keep positive folks!:)

kenny009uk
20-06-2017, 17:26
Do we think he will take a wildcard for Eastbourne?

clancy
20-06-2017, 17:27
Feel so very sad for Andy (and for the Grenfell Tower fund), the worst I've ever seen him play . He was so lacking in every area today that I am truly worried about him and his future in tennis. I feel the shingles is still in his system and wonder how he can pull things round for Wimbledon. A surprisingly great day for the Aussies!

Teresa
20-06-2017, 17:34
:crying: Well I feel just horrible for Andy, world no 1 to lose to LL, and feel Andy will be bothered and disappointed especially as he seemed to be moving in the right direction after RG.


In that regard, Teresa...




I've read a few posts saying you're not bothered about this or that for Andy..but do you never want things for Andy because Andy wants them for himself? I don't mean this as a dig, just curious, don't you think it's not about what fans want but about Andy's wants and hopes?:shrug:

I think it's precisely about what he wants. I think that his family and his life outside tennis have become more important to him than tennis, which is how it should be. I am perhaps coming at this from a different angle. I was shocked last year seeing how bad Borg was. I don't want that for AM, and I suspect he wouldn't want it for himself.
What he, Djokovic and others are putting their bodies through in the name of sport is going to seriously impact on their bodies later in life. There has to be a balance. I don't think there is any coincidence that so many of the top players suffer injuries. I am not particularly keen on the various changes proposed- removing the Adv, and reducing sets to 4 games, but realistically it might be better for the players.

AM has been the face of British tennis for the best part of a decade. He has given us so much, and delivered under so much pressure, yet tomorrow he will be crucified in the press. Raonic went out, Wawrinka went out, but AM will be hung drawn and quartered in the press. I hate it. He was playing his first match against somebody who was used to the conditions, somebody who he hadn't played before. It happens. He won't deserve the vitriol.

I also said earlier this year that for various reasons, I have become increasingly disenchanted with tennis as a sport. That hasn't changed. I will support AM until the day he retires, but I am quite relaxed about when that happens.

Not sure that answers your question, but it's my best offer:-)

Josephine
20-06-2017, 17:50
That was very depressing. I kept thinking Andy would pull it around. Should have broken in that first game on second set - would have maybe changed his mindset and got the crowd more involved. But as it stands Thompson totally deserves it.

I think Andy was a bit unlucky to play someone who had had a lot of time on grass - I think he would have beaten Bedene and then got into it.

Very sad that we won't see Andy any more this week at Queens in his nice outfit (wet look I think). It's such a lovely tournament and without the same stress as Wimbledon. And the number of times he will return is now getting a bit low. Shame for Grenfell fund too but sure Andy will add something.

Quite a bit off the ranking points too. Perhaps Andy will be relieved when the No 1 ranking goes and he can go back to being the hunter.

PS I don't think Andy will be crucified in the press. It will be more concern - they know what he has achieved.

Linda
20-06-2017, 17:51
A surprisingly great day for the Aussies!
Not so surprising when you consider the weather. I had trouble pushing a pen today.

Josephine
20-06-2017, 18:05
I suppose one consolation is Fed lost his first match on grass too, though he put up a better fight, and no-one is writing him off for Wimbledon. But he has more matches at Halle to go so that is an advantage for him.

Teresa
20-06-2017, 18:47
Rudeski is not concerned, is talking about the heat, not ever knowing the temperature to be this hot at Queen's or Wimbledon. Makes the ball much quicker, giving players less time. Murray didn't get much time on the ball. He thinks he will play an exhibition and be fine come Wimbledon. AM said he doesn't want to stray far, as he wants to get onto the Wimbledon courts sooner.

Hugs for Rudeski - his whole attitude is "there are obvious reasons for this loss, what's everyone so het up about?". AM also said he only had a couple of hours notice, so he obviously couldn't do his usual thorough preparation.

ljs
20-06-2017, 19:03
Just got home and saw the result.
Disappointing to say the least , hes just so unpredictable lately , poor guy :crying:
not good for the confidence , and sure not good to be losing to LLosers

patlowe
20-06-2017, 19:10
I suppose one consolation is Fed lost his first match on grass too, though he put up a better fight, and no-one is writing him off for Wimbledon. But he has more matches at Halle to go so that is an advantage for him.

I know this will really cheer us up! :rolleyes: Inverdale put it to Peter Fleming that there was now no obvious contender to win Wimbledon, and Peter thought there was....Federer!! :p :faint:

clancy
20-06-2017, 19:23
Surprise, surprise ! For me, anyone but Fed!
Just want to give him (Andy not Fed!) a big hug and tell him we're all behind him and always will be.
Did Andy do a press conference?

Keeptheheid
20-06-2017, 19:32
It is what it is. I just hope that the donation being paid to the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire tragedy is substantial. When we think of these things it puts someone losing a tennis match into perspective. Good luck �� for Wimbledon ��

Naomi
20-06-2017, 19:36
Why did this have to happen the year I have tickets for the final?!? :shocked::faint::sad:
Seriously, he wins 5 times and doesn't get to the final this year!..:doh: Tennis is such an unpredictable sport to buy tickets for!
...And on a less selfish note, disappointed for Andy...must be quite deflating...Hope he's reserving all his tennis awesomeness for Wimbledon.

ljs
20-06-2017, 19:46
The thing is, if Andy has a good run at Wimbledon, nobody will be bothered about this loss, so let's keep positive folks!:)

Im trying , but these kinds of losses make it harder & harder

Teresa
20-06-2017, 20:22
I know this will really cheer us up! :rolleyes: Inverdale put it to Peter Fleming that there was now no obvious contender to win Wimbledon, and Peter thought there was....Federer!! :p :faint:

I would not be at all surprised.

david1610
20-06-2017, 20:25
Shingles = singles + h factor (?)

I think Andy went way into the reserve at the end of the year. I got shingles after my second teaching practice on my PGCE years ago. I think my body just said "nope, that's enough".

Andy has not forgotten how to play tennis, and copes with the various pressures playing on grass and in the UK (he has won Queens for five times).

Rather than go to Eastborne, take advantage of being in London and get some check ups lined up.
Hopefully qualify for the O2 but withdraw on medical grounds. Take the French Masters lightly.... in other words, get a proper rest at the end of this season, see specialists and train carefully and monitor whatever needs to be monitored.


PS I did not post during the match today because after Andy had struggled to hold serve in his first game, after I had watched four sets of tennis prior to that with one break of serve due to a lucky net chord, I saw the writing on the wall.

Alis
20-06-2017, 20:36
It is what it is. I just hope that the donation being paid to the victims of the Grenfell Tower fire tragedy is substantial. When we think of these things it puts someone losing a tennis match into perspective. Good luck �� for Wimbledon ��

They said Andy would get £12,000 for losing in the first round - that's quite a substantial donation, I think.

scrapaddict
20-06-2017, 20:50
What a strange afternoon at Queens but Andy just didn't play well - serve was off, kept sending ballls long and didn't seem to be engaged inthe match. The crowd tried to lift him but there seemed to be nothing there. A disappointment after seeming progress at the french-fearing for wimbly now. Though it did seem there was a conspiracy to get rid of the top seeds!

Naomi
20-06-2017, 21:39
It's strange how the top seeds have lost already but when you think about the proximity of the French it doesn't seem that surprising...although obviously we expect them to go further...Especially Andy with his great record. I don't feel like this should have a bearing on Wimbledon though - it did seem like he wasn't really "into it" today and I'm assuming that won't be a problem come July!

lovetennis
20-06-2017, 21:55
Haven't seen it but spent a horrid 45 minutes following the score on my commute home, walked in the door as they were shaking hands at the net. Thought Andy looked gutted :sad:
Obviously it doesn't help for Wimby but mostly I just feel sorry for Andy. He worked so hard to get to no.1 and things have conspired against him since. Hope he can come back and show everyone what he's made of at Wimby

patlowe
20-06-2017, 22:00
Haven't seen it but spent a horrid 45 minutes following the score on my commute home, walked in the door as they were shaking hands at the net. Thought Andy looked gutted :sad:
Obviously it doesn't help for Wimby but mostly I just feel sorry for Andy. He worked so hard to get to no.1 and things have conspired against him since. Hope he can come back and show everyone what he's made of at Wimby

He did it at the French...no reason to suppose he will do otherwise at Wimby!

patlowe
20-06-2017, 22:15
I have been doing everything to avoid the press and their over-sensationalised headlines!! However, any feedback I did read is encouraging and already I see little glimmers of positivity coming through! Mostly coming from Andy!! Andy promised us before RG that he could turn things around at RG and he did!! He has already promised that today's result, although a setback, will not affect his Wimbledon chances. That's good enough for me! I am sure he and Lendl will do everything possible to be ready for Wimbledon cos I know he very much wants to do well! I'm feeling buoyant about his chances!

lovetennis
20-06-2017, 22:19
I have been doing everything to avoid the press and their over-sensationalised headlines!! However, any feedback I did read is encouraging and already I see little glimmers of positivity coming through! Mostly coming from Andy!! Andy promised us before RG that he could turn things around at RG and he did!! He has already promised that today's result, although a setback, will not affect his Wimbledon chances. That's good enough for me! I am sure he and Lendl will do everything possible to be ready for Wimbledon cos I know he very much wants to do well! I'm feeling buoyant about his chances!

Luckily I've been out all evening so it has allowed me to avoid the doom and gloom merchants of the press. As you say Pat Andy put in a good run at RG, so so want him to do the same at Wimby (and not just because of my final tickets ;) )

goldfish
20-06-2017, 22:23
Didn't get to see any of the match and it was agonising to follow on livescore. Recorded the match but don't think I can bear to watch it. Strange day at Queen's. Hope the young Aussies can follow up after their good wins.

HoopGirl
21-06-2017, 07:10
It's strange how the top seeds have lost already but when you think about the proximity of the French it doesn't seem that surprising...although obviously we expect them to go further...Especially Andy with his great record. I don't feel like this should have a bearing on Wimbledon though - it did seem like he wasn't really "into it" today and I'm assuming that won't be a problem come July!

This was meant to be better for the players as this year there was an extra week between Roland Garros and Queens!
Yet all the top seeds are now out.

Stell
21-06-2017, 07:34
I, vaguely remember, Andy has played Boodles in the past when he's needed the matches on grass.

themass15
21-06-2017, 07:43
Andy has played at the Boodles and I think once at the Hurlingham Club. I am sure he will play a match a one of those two.

Naomi
21-06-2017, 08:43
This was meant to be better for the players as this year there was an extra week between Roland Garros and Queens!
Yet all the top seeds are now out.
Has there really been an extra week? Wow, I thought I remembered something about giving more time in between but it feels like there's hardly been any time. I guess yesterday was a combination of things/the other players were good!

suttontennis
21-06-2017, 08:43
I tend to agree he didn't seem to engage fully in the match as he has in the past. Also he was content to rally with Thompson, perhaps expecting the Aussie to make an error. Thompson wasn't frightened and knew how to play Andy on a faster surface, by taking Andy's time away from him. Disappointing, not the end of the world. Andy said last night he will stay around london (so no Eastbourne), and get match practice, so one of the exhibition events looks on the cards. However given that the exhibition courts won't be the same standard as Wimbledon, he may not even bother.

Silverdee
21-06-2017, 09:25
As Boodles and Hurlingham have both been mentioned on here just looked at ticket situation for both and seems Boodles tickets slightly easier to get than Hurlingham. My birthday next week so could treat myself. So disappointed that I won't see Andy at Queens.

rimarli
21-06-2017, 11:10
I sometimes wonder if sub-consciencely the top players are anxious in the first rounds as the grass is so slippery. They have so much to lose if injured. Andy went out in 2012 in the first round but went on to the final at Wimbledon. Fingers crossed

lovetennis
21-06-2017, 12:05
Has there really been an extra week? Wow, I thought I remembered something about giving more time in between but it feels like there's hardly been any time. I guess yesterday was a combination of things/the other players were good!

Yes there's been an extra week for the last couple of years. In the old days Queens started the day after RG ended.

Alis
21-06-2017, 13:42
I sometimes wonder if sub-consciencely the top players are anxious in the first rounds as the grass is so slippery. They have so much to lose if injured. Andy went out in 2012 in the first round but went on to the final at Wimbledon. Fingers crossed

I think the top players are anxious in the first round of any tournament - especially if they are defending a title. Andy has spoken about it in the past. I suppose it is embarrassing for them to go out to a much lower ranked player in the first round. They do tend to play themselves into a tournament. I'm sure Andy will be very nervous for the first round of Wimbledon - I know I will!

RosieBear
21-06-2017, 13:54
I think the top players are anxious in the first round of any tournament - especially if they are defending a title. Andy has spoken about it in the past. I suppose it is embarrassing for them to go out to a much lower ranked player in the first round. They do tend to play themselves into a tournament. I'm sure Andy will be very nervous for the first round of Wimbledon - I know I will!

Agreed, and especially if they have just changed surfaces and it's best of 3. I think the wiggle room of best of 5 really helped Andy at the French and will again at Wimbie :thumbup:

Alis
21-06-2017, 14:39
Agreed, and especially if they have just changed surfaces and it's best of 3. I think the wiggle room of best of 5 really helped Andy at the French and will again at Wimbie :thumbup:

Couldn't agree more. I heard one of the commies - I think it was Lloyd - saying that he thought in ten years time all tournaments would be best of 3. It would kill it for me - it's what makes the Majors different. It's bad enough that they've done it to the Davis Cup, I think it would be a disaster if they did it to the Majors too.

Alis
21-06-2017, 15:00
I wish Bradnam would stop going on about it being the hottest day in more than 40 years. We have sea mist and midges - not a great combination - and now it's trying to rain!

pabbers
21-06-2017, 19:47
Let's not be so glum. Andy's clay season wasn't exactly encouraging before RG but he turned things around there. I do think slams being 5 sets makes all the difference to Andy.

Caro
23-06-2017, 14:05
Let's not be so glum. Andy's clay season wasn't exactly encouraging before RG but he turned things around there. I do think slams being 5 sets makes all the difference to Andy. Completely agree pabbers ... I have every confidence Wimby will be a whole different story. Go Andy!!