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The new rules for qualifying should make interesting viewing.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHN3YjuV0AAX3pl.jpg
The new rules for qualifying should make interesting viewing.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHN3YjuV0AAX3pl.jpg
Certainly makes interesting reading never mind the viewing! Strange that they are allowed 25 seconds between points in qualifying yet in the main event they are only allowed 20 seconds. Don't like the coaching during a match either. I have never liked the fact that the women are allowed their coaches on court once per set and I'm glad that doesn't apply to the slams.
I wonder if they are testing it out in the qualifying event with a view to introducing it in the main event next year?
exislander
15-08-2017, 17:41
Aren't some of these rules also being used for the Next Gen Finals in November? The future of tennis?
Some good, some bad, I would say.
themass15
15-08-2017, 19:43
I should have put post about Sharapova on other thread
themass15
15-08-2017, 19:45
Made a mistake sorry
The draws for the US Open will be made on Friday 25th August at 5pm UK.
LC the fan
19-08-2017, 12:51
Great to read that Andy is feeling ready for the US Open. Its strange but I just cant really get too excited about a tournament that Andy isn't in these days - strange thing to say having watched tennis for 60 years but thats how it is.
Great to read that Andy is feeling ready for the US Open. Its strange but I just cant really get too excited about a tournament that Andy isn't in these days - strange thing to say having watched tennis for 60 years but thats how it is.
Same here, and I have been watching tennis on tv since 1952 when Wimbledon was about the only event available to us.
I'm been worried about my strange feelings of dis-engagement with tennis over the past weeks, was beginning to think it was my age!
I think rightly or wrongly my interest was fuelled by AM, and I suspect it will finish with him. Perhaps if Jay Clarke delivers then it might be reignited. I am afraid I don't think Kyle is going to achieve much beyond top 50. I yearn for the day, when one Roger Federer is nothing more than historical interest.
RosieBear
19-08-2017, 18:12
I don't think tennis will be the quite same for any of us after Andy, that's why I feel it's so important just to *enjoy* every moment. I have always treated Andy's career like having my darling little Rosiebear - you know it's not going to be forever and will be over too soon, all you can do is have no regrets by relishing every moment and not wasting any of it getting strung out over small things.
Absolutely delighted to have Andy back in action for the US, couldn't care less what draw he gets, simply thrilled that he feels well enough to play and we get the pleasure of watching him back in our lives......go Andy!!! :cheer::cheer::cheer:
I did watch tennis BA (before Andy) and I'm sure I'll watch PA (post Andy) but it certainly won't be the same. I was never previously the avid watcher that I have been since Andy appeared on the scene. It would be nice to think we would have a Brit to fill his shoes but they are big shoes to fill and I can't see it happening any time soon. I still harbour the fond hope that, when the sad day comes that Andy finally finishes playing singles, he will play doubles with Jamie for a while. Judy has said that they plan to play together at Wimbledon at least once before they both finally quit, so I'm madly crossing my fingers that it will be more than once!
Guerkins2
19-08-2017, 18:42
I did watch tennis BA (before Andy) and I'm sure I'll watch PA (post Andy) but it certainly won't be the same. I was never previously the avid watcher that I have been since Andy appeared on the scene. It would be nice to think we would have a Brit to fill his shoes but they are big shoes to fill and I can't see it happening any time soon. I still harbour the fond hope that, when the sad day comes that Andy finally finishes playing singles, he will play doubles with Jamie for a while. Judy has said that they plan to play together at Wimbledon at least once before they both finally quit, so I'm madly crossing my fingers that it will be more than once!
I would love to see them play together at Wimbledon. Their DC matches together are some of my favourites. I was just watching my recording of the one v Australia yesterday!
angiebabez
20-08-2017, 07:54
Will still dip in & out of various tourneys once andy goes but like many on here feel it will never be the same, trying not too think of it too much though as its a very depressing thought lol. Will savour every single moment in the meantime.
Andy is back on Ashe. :thumbup: From instagram stories.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHr946xW0AEZ5Jf.jpg
Proof that he is there. ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHsVELyVoAAitIG.jpg
Last one but it's a good 'un. A shorn & shaved Andy. :shades:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHsXjPYUMAAXytn.jpg
Does he look as if he's limping? :p
As it stands, these are the 32 seeds for the US Open. Andy will be drawn to play one of 25-32 in the 3rd round and one of 13-16 in the 4th round.
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Haase, Kohlschreiber, Karlovic & Simon are next in line and amongst the dangerous first round floaters.
I'm really glad that Delpo isn't a first round floater.
patmoren
21-08-2017, 11:37
I'm really glad that Delpo isn't a first round floater.
He doesn't seem to be playing very well in the matches I have seen in the last few weeks. Seems to have lost a lot of his power, only showing occasionally.
patmoren
21-08-2017, 11:40
I don't think tennis will be the quite same for any of us after Andy, that's why I feel it's so important just to *enjoy* every moment. I have always treated Andy's career like having my darling little Rosiebear - you know it's not going to be forever and will be over too soon, all you can do is have no regrets by relishing every moment and not wasting any of it getting strung out over small things.
Absolutely delighted to have Andy back in action for the US, couldn't care less what draw he gets, simply thrilled that he feels well enough to play and we get the pleasure of watching him back in our lives......go Andy!!! :cheer::cheer::cheer:
I have followed tennis for 60+ years and still enjoy it as much as ever. I just love tennis whoever is playing.
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angiebabez
21-08-2017, 21:57
1337
Andys getting better looking with age !!!!!!!!!!!
Spot the difference. ;)
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Is Andy looking very thin or is that just my imagination?
Guerkins2
22-08-2017, 15:21
Just put this on Jamie'S page...sorry!
Silverdee
22-08-2017, 15:40
Is Andy looking very thin or is that just my imagination?
That's what I was thinking too!
Radio five sports extra will be doing live commentary from 6.45pm (18.45pm) next Monday. Radio five live will be doing half an hour from 10pm (22.00pm) next Monday.
This is the temporary Louis Armstrong stadium complete with shadow casting tree. Apparently it has a capacity of 8800 and the new stadium which opens next year will seat 14000. I think the old Armstrong was Andy's least favourite of the 3 stadiums. He's due to practice here in the next hour.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHiJVsXV0AAh8vQ.jpg
HoopGirl
24-08-2017, 05:56
Yesterday put my usual bet on Andy winning the US Open. Had a few moments of hesitation about his chances and then thought - it's always been about showing my support of Andy. So the bet was placed and the lovely young man who works there - and has fruitlessly tried to explain how odds work - knew what I was there for as I came in the door! Go Andy he said to me!
themass15
24-08-2017, 07:34
Milos Raonic has now pulled out.
roytennisfan
24-08-2017, 08:16
Milos Raonic has now pulled out.
Not often a slam has 4 or the worlds top 11 missing, could easily have been more though
themass15
24-08-2017, 10:16
I suppose it is the last Grand Slam.
LC the fan
24-08-2017, 10:55
Is Andy looking very thin or is that just my imagination?
I think the lack of hair - both on head and face - is making him look thinner
This is the temporary Louis Armstrong stadium complete with shadow casting tree. Apparently it has a capacity of 8800 and the new stadium which opens next year will seat 14000. I think the old Armstrong was Andy's least favourite of the 3 stadiums. He's due to practice here in the next hour.
Wasn't it the Louis Armstrong court where he vomited on court when he was much younger?
No I think it was the Grandstand court and we were there watching!!
Raonic will be replaced by a lucky loser in the draw and Haase becomes the 32nd seed. It also bumps Del Potro up to 24th seed meaning he won't be drawn against a top 8 seed in the 3rd round. Pouille becomes the 16th seed and Carreno Busta the 12th seed.
Andy has a 2 hour practice scheduled on Grandstand at 2pm with 22 year old American wild card Thai-Son Kwiatkowski(702). It would be a nice first round draw. ;)
US Open are streaming the start of Andy's practice (https://twitter.com/usopen/status/900781888633159680). Is he limping? You decide. :p
lovetennis
24-08-2017, 19:01
US Open are streaming the start of Andy's practice (https://twitter.com/usopen/status/900781888633159680). Is he limping? You decide. :p
I don't think so but he does have his distinctive gait
Who's the creep and who's the one with principles? ;) Sharapova followed Nadal on Grandstand and Andy did likewise with Sharapova but they ignored each other.
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angiebabez
24-08-2017, 20:54
Limp watch has started again on twitter :rolleyes::rolleyes:
LC the fan
25-08-2017, 10:17
US Open are streaming the start of Andy's practice (https://twitter.com/usopen/status/900781888633159680). Is he limping? You decide. :p
He certainly is favouring the left leg - but then perhaps he always did and we've never noticed before. Time will tell
I really can't imagine that Andy would come back if he wasn't ready.
themass15
25-08-2017, 12:25
It would be foolhardy if he isn't fully fit as it would probably mean a much longer period out of the game.
He's definitely always had an ungainly gait.
Apparently draw can be watched live here from 5pm.
http://ms.spr.ly/6015rvpG5
Andy's prospective route:
R1: Sandgren(104)
R2: F.Mayer/Dutra Silva
R3: Schwartzman
R4: Pouille
QF: Tsonga
SF: A.Zverev
F: Nadal
themass15
25-08-2017, 16:52
Probably about a good a quarter as Andy could have hoped for.
Prospective QFs.
Nadal v Dimitrov
Federer v Thiem
A.Zverev v Cilic
Andy v Tsonga
Nadal:
R1: Lajovic
R2: Daniel/Paul
R3: Gasquet
R4: Berdych
QF: Dimitrov
SF: Federer
F: Andy
Federer:
R1: Tiafoe
R2: Kavcic/Youzhny
R3: Lopez
R4: Kyrgios
QF: Thiem
SF: Nadal
F: Andy
A.Zverev:
R1: Qualifier
R2: Coric/Vesely
R3: Anderson
R4: Sock
QF: Cilic
SF: Andy
F: Nadal
Kyle v Haase(32) & Aljaz v Rublev with the winner meeting Dimitrov/Qualifier.
Men's singles draw (https://t.co/xGZPB03RhA).
I hesitate to say this because draws so rarely work out as expected but that does look like a pretty good draw for Andy.
I wonder where Shapovalov will be placed in the draw - assuming he gets through qualifying.
lovetennis
25-08-2017, 17:38
Fed v Tiafoe could be an interesting first round. Andy's draw is pretty good though I don't know much about Sandgren. At least he didn't get a qualifier who has had ample practice on the match courts
RoastLamb
25-08-2017, 17:56
I wonder where Shapovalov will be placed in the draw - assuming he gets through qualifying.
He's lost the first set in final round of qualies. :eek:
roytennisfan
25-08-2017, 18:05
Kyle v Haase(32) & Aljaz v Rublev with the winner meeting Dimitrov/Qualifier.
If Kyle had have a half decent year, he would have been seeded instead of Haase, a very winnable one for Kyle this but he needs 3 wins to match last year's R4!
roytennisfan
25-08-2017, 18:07
Hope Cameron gets a good placing
roytennisfan
25-08-2017, 18:09
He's lost the first set in final round of qualies. :eek:
But floated through the second 6-1
If Andy is fit this could be a decent draw! Fingers crossed!
roytennisfan
25-08-2017, 18:16
If Andy is fit this could be a decent draw! Fingers crossed!
Andy can't be anywhere near 100%, it's a question of is he more like the end of Wimbledon or the end of Roland Garros. I would be happy If he managed another sf like there but I still remember the pain of watching that qf at wimbledon
LC the fan
25-08-2017, 18:26
To be honest his first couple of round should give him the chance to play himself in. If the hip is ok I am feeling pretty confident
Has anyone heard/seen what Jo Konta's draw is like?
To be honest his first couple of round should give him the chance to play himself in. If the hip is ok I am feeling pretty confident
Fingers crossed!
RosieBear
25-08-2017, 18:44
As usual totally happy with the draw because there's no point not being. I'd love nothing more than for Andy to be the one to take advantage of a weaker field (nobody can tell me that Sascha brings as much as an in form Nole, Stan or Kei), and win the title - he soooo deserves it - but feel that even if fully fit again Andy is a player that needs a lot of matches to build slam winning levels of confidence. Will have to wait and see. Can't wait. Just incredibly happy he's back competing - the last couple of months have felt like a couple of years. Good LUCK ANDY - just do your best as always, and we'll cheer you all the way as always.:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
good draw i feel too , and amen rosie , hasnt been the same without Andy !!
I know more about Sandgren's politics than his tennis. :hide:
I know more about Sandgren's politics than his tennis. :hide:
.......................... and ???? Or maybe I'm not allowed to ask that! ;)
.......................... and ???? Or maybe I'm not allowed to ask that! ;)
He probably has an "Alt-Right" key on his computer. ;)
Oh .... okay - enough said!
As usual totally happy with the draw because there's no point not being. I'd love nothing more than for Andy to be the one to take advantage of a weaker field (nobody can tell me that Sascha brings as much as an in form Nole, Stan or Kei), and win the title - he soooo deserves it - but feel that even if fully fit again Andy is a player that needs a lot of matches to build slam winning levels of confidence. Will have to wait and see. Can't wait. Just incredibly happy he's back competing - the last couple of months have felt like a couple of years. Good LUCK ANDY - just do your best as always, and we'll cheer you all the way as always.:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:
And so say all of us!
WimbledonWestie
25-08-2017, 21:29
Indeed, excited to see Andy on court again, much as I love it, tennis doesn't feel right without him.
Been announced that the bottom half (Andy's half) of both draws will play on Monday.
Been announced that the bottom half (Andy's half) of both draws will play on Monday.
If Andy's half is playing in both draws is Andy playing with the ladies too ;) ;)
RoastLamb
25-08-2017, 22:05
Phew Dennis pulled through. Wonder who he'll get in 1st round.
WimbledonWestie
25-08-2017, 22:06
Excellent... in keeping with his feminist status. :laugh:
Cameron Norrie gets Tursunov who's been living off his protected ranking earnings in slams for the last 18 months. Currently ranked 642. Good draw. The winner plays Carreno Busta/Evan King(Q) in the second round.
Phew Dennis pulled through. Wonder who he'll get in 1st round.
Shapovalov gets Medvedev with the winner playing Tsonga/Copil.
I hope the tail end of hurricane Harvey doesn't affect NY on Monday! Remember the year when even the chairs were flung about the court! I might be wrong but was Andy playing Berdy then?
RoastLamb
26-08-2017, 00:52
Shapovalov gets Medvedev with the winner playing Tsonga/Copil.
Oh dear!!! :crying:
themass15
26-08-2017, 07:32
If Denis can beat Rafa he can beat JWT
Josephine
26-08-2017, 10:01
What about Medvedev? Presumably he can beat JWT too?
JAMES4578
26-08-2017, 11:25
Just hope Andy is fit enough to at least compete fairly well, certainly reasonable draw in first week though so hopefully all being well will have something in reserve for 2nd. Must admit my expectations aren't particularly high but still the possibility of a good run.
LC the fan
26-08-2017, 13:00
I hope the tail end of hurricane Harvey doesn't affect NY on Monday! Remember the year when even the chairs were flung about the court! I might be wrong but was Andy playing Berdy then?
I may be remembering the wrong wind, but I think that was the year that Andy went on past Birdie and came out Champion
I'm pretty sure it was 2012 and Andy played Berdy in the semis in a gale force wind. At one point a chair was blown on to the court. Berdy was not best pleased and blamed the wind for his loss.
lovetennis
26-08-2017, 14:54
I'm pretty sure it was 2012 and Andy played Berdy in the semis in a gale force wind. At one point a chair was blown on to the court. Berdy was not best pleased and blamed the wind for his loss.
I think you're right
I'm pretty sure it was 2012 and Andy played Berdy in the semis in a gale force wind. At one point a chair was blown on to the court. Berdy was not best pleased and blamed the wind for his loss.
Was that the same year / match , that Andys hat blew off , and Berdych said it hindered him ?
LC the fan
26-08-2017, 16:55
Was that the same year / match , that Andys hat blew off , and Berdych said it hindered him ?
It certainly was and Berdie claimed the point....however, to no avail
LC the fan
26-08-2017, 16:58
Does anyone know anything about Sandgren - I mean his tennis, not his politics. I honestly don't think I've ever heard of him - lets hope he continues to stay out of the newspapers !!!
First name, Tennys!! and he usually plays Challengers. He is 26 and his CH is 100 (achieved earlier this year) so he is having his best season to date.
I think the Houston storm is forecast to stay put rather than move off as most do and that is why they are expecting so much rain.
Have just seen Andy on BBC news (practising in the background behind the reporter) and saw no sign of a limp.
It certainly was and Berdie claimed the point....however, to no avail
Thought so , just watched it on youtube , that was the Kim " parental advisory " tournament :lol:
WimbledonWestie
26-08-2017, 18:14
Was that not the Australian open- after Dani started coaching Berdy. 2015? (The parental advisory moment I mean). 2012 was the windy US open - after hat gate the second semi was stopped and the stadium evacuated. The tournament then over ran into the Monday.
oh was it ? Just saw in the clip where Kim swears in Berdych's direction , and assumed that was it . Will have to check again
Your right WimbledonWestie !! Silly me
Andy has pulled out of US Open, due to sore hip.
lovetennis
26-08-2017, 19:12
Oh no tennis journalists on Twitter saying Andy has withdrawn.
Sky Sports have just reported it! I'm glad he's withdrawn tbh, not glad that he's had to but it felt a bit soon for him to be playing again.
lovetennis
26-08-2017, 19:17
Disappointing for us all, but obviously a wise decision. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends his season now. Probably the best thing in the long run
https://twitter.com/stu_fraser?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp% 7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
:crying:
Even tho I know its best for him , Im still so disappointed
JAMES4578
26-08-2017, 19:23
Whilst great pity for Andy to miss the US Open and first slam for some time, should for the best in the long run, reports he may well end season - whatever happens here's hoping 2018 can see some great things.
I'm sure Andy hasn't taken this decision lightly. Of course, it's hugely disappointing for him and for us but his health has to come first. Surely the ATP must now take note of the number of withdrawals from top players and reduce the number of mandatory tournaments in future.
Gutted at this news but know it's best for Andy. Remembering my tears whilst he played Querry in his last match at Wimbledon and even then thinking was this the beginning of the end for him, still feel much the same now ..... x
https://twitter.com/stu_fraser?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp% 7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
:crying:
Even tho I know its best for him , Im still so disappointed
I know...my first reaction was 'Oh no!', but I quickly realised it's absolutely the right thing for him to do. I had the feeling when we were anticipating his return that it was too good to be true to be having him back again. and indeed that's how it is. All we can do now is continue to patiently await (difficult!) his return and when he does it will be good to welcome a fully fit and fighting Andy back. Would prefer that to watching him struggle with injury.
On the plus side, should now be able to get full nights sleep over the next couple of weeks as I don't anticipate waiting up for any other matches!!
I hope so pat , worrying tho , hip injuries can be career ending
The draw is being reshuffled
Speedy Hawk
26-08-2017, 19:46
I see this BBC website. First like oh no! Then like it better withdraw and heal than play and make it worse.
US Open going be strange and interesting this year.
Anyone here do FTM please look FTM General thread to vote who follow for US Open FTM.
I wonder how long Lendl will stay around for.
Sad, but has to be right for him. I know I am probably alone in this view, but I think he has done enough. He had the bipartite patella, came back - against all the odds from the back surgery, and had reached No 1 in the World, his health and mobility for the post tennis years must take priority.
We want him good enough to Coach the next British Hope.
I wonder how long Lendl will stay around for.
I think Lendl is quite happy at home. I can't see it being an issue (I hope).
scrapaddict
26-08-2017, 20:26
Now Andy can be home with Kim baby must be due Nov time so good timing to be together
banskogirl
26-08-2017, 20:28
No!!!! So disappointed for Andy and us. He must have really hoped he could play or I'm sure he wouldn't have been in practising. :crying:
I know it's for the best in the long run............ :grouphug:
It's been hectic here but I was determined to get back into the swing of things when Andy returned, I've been missing him play so much. I don't know how much I'll bother watching at all.
RoastLamb
26-08-2017, 20:30
Yeah, I know it's the best decision for him but I miss him soooooo much! Tennis just is not the same without him. I bet he takes the rest of the season off now. Hopefully he'll be well by the Oz Open. :crying:
I reckon poor Andy is more disappointed than all of us put together. Get the feeling he really wanted to be fit enough to play the US Open. Glad he is being wise though....as he said he was there to win it but hip too sore to do that.
Andy practised from 12-2pm including a practice set against Pouille and signed autographs afterwards. He gave it everything to be fit and must be devastated not to play.
Cilic takes Andy's position in the draw.
I don't care who wins providing it's not Federer, Nadal, Cillic, or Troicki, or Sharapova on the other side.
I think I will be rooting for Tsonga or Del Potro.
One thing I have realised during Andy's lay-off is how little tennis I watch when he isn't involved and what a big hole it leaves!
Federer fans fuming at Andy's late withdrawal so every cloud.....
lovetennis
26-08-2017, 21:00
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/video/index.html?promo=subnav
Andy looked gutted in his presser especially when asked about the rest of the year. He says he'll make a decision over the next few days but his face fighting back the tears makes me think he knows the answer already
banskogirl
26-08-2017, 21:08
Anyone thinking another op?
A very emotional presser......:crying: poor Andy!
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/video/index.html?promo=subnav
Andy looked gutted in his presser especially when asked about the rest of the year. He says he'll make a decision over the next few days but his face fighting back the tears makes me think he knows the answer already
I thought it was fine. I didn't think he was fighting back tears. He seemed more frustrated, than anything.
I think he was quite positive. He obviously knew attempting to play the US was going to be a close call. He will be fine.
What I hold on to with AM more than anything is his comment after The US Open in 2012, that he could retire happy after that. Look what he has achieved since then.
Monday's OOP (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/p_schedule7.pdf).
Heather, Kyle & Cameron are all first on (4pm UK) their respective courts. Scheduler obviously has it in for British journos. Jo Konta is second on Grandstand.
Guerkins2
26-08-2017, 21:17
My thoughts exactly- looks devastated :sad:
david1610
26-08-2017, 21:25
Mmm.... not sure I liked the comment about seeing a number of people and getting different advice... I would really hope Andy rests the rest of the year. I have no idea if this is something that can be cured by an operation but hopefully it does not needt that. But there has to be enough rest to get back to fighting fit.
All the best Andy.
Not surprised at all. He needs to take care of his body. Hopefully he will come back stronger in time for AO.
angiebabez
26-08-2017, 21:34
Andy was clearly fighting back tears (especially at start of presser) he even made a comment that "this is the reason i didnt want to come in here" so dont know what interview you were watching teresa? So so upset for poor andy & us fans but if im being completely honest with myself i did think it was too soon. But got caught up in the excitement of wanting to see him back as have missed him dreadfully :(
Andy was clearly fighting back tears (especially at start of presser) he even made a comment that "this is the reason i didnt want to come in here" so dont know what interview you were watching teresa? So so upset for poor andy & us fans but if im being completely honest with myself i did think it was too soon. But got caught up in the excitement of wanting to see him back as have missed him dreadfully :(
I watched it twice, he is obviously not happy about needing to withdraw, (he wouldn't be him if he was), but it still came over more as frustration to me. He must have known he was pushing his luck going to New York.
angiebabez
26-08-2017, 21:50
I watched it twice, he is obviously not happy about needing to withdraw, (he wouldn't be him if he was), but it still came over more as frustration to me. He must have known he was pushing his luck going to New York.
Need to agree to disagree then. What my eyes seen was him choking back tears.
Need to agree to disagree then. What my eyes seen was him choking back tears.
Fair enough. My interpretation seems to be the outlier.....!!!
RosieBear
26-08-2017, 22:02
First and foremost poor Andy :sad::sad: and then poor us :sad: Bless his huge, stubborn heart, giving his all to try and see if he could play the US when others were quicker to give up the rest of the season. Hope he takes all the rest that he needs and is afforded privacy over the things in his life during that time - his hip is a medical matter so an entirely private issue, and of course the birth of his second child. Wishing him all the very best of luck with everything, and will wait patiently for his storming return and the privilege of watching him again. Good luck, Andy.
tennis890
26-08-2017, 22:16
Such disappointing news for Andy and us fans too :sad: Although think its for the best in the long run. I agree, he deffo seemed very emotional at the beginning of the video, could tell he was fighting back the tears :sad: It must be so frustrating for him as he obviously wants to get back out there and play.
Really cant see him coming back this year now, just hope he isnt too hard on himself and does whatever he needs to come back fighting next year.
Need to agree to disagree then. What my eyes seen was him choking back tears.
agree angie , poor guy :sad:
HoopGirl
26-08-2017, 22:29
Gutted! For him and us!
Poor Andy - that must have been so tough for him to have to make that decision. Feel really sad for him. He looks devastated in that presser. :sad:
Hope Andy will take care of himself and take whatever decision he feels will be right for him not only now but his future.
Best wishes to Andy.
:grouphug: :grouphug:
Josephine
27-08-2017, 00:48
Devastated for Andy. Things not looking good for his return to the game. Was so looking forward to seeing him play again, even though I had to be away most of this week.
Andy was clearly fighting back tears at the beginning of the interview. I have seen that gesture so many times, when he puts his hand to the end of his nose when her gets emotional and tearful in interviews and other occasions. Was obviously very upset - couldn't wait to get out of there.
Josephine
27-08-2017, 01:03
I thought it was fine. I didn't think he was fighting back tears. He seemed more frustrated, than anything.
I think he was quite positive. He obviously knew attempting to play the US was going to be a close call. He will be fine.
What I hold on to with AM more than anything is his comment after The US Open in 2012, that he could retire happy after that. Look what he has achieved since then.
That was said in an emotional moment.
There is no way Andy wants to leave tennis like this. It is quite a different thing to play as long as you feel happy to do so with reasonable results with a planned retirement than to be forced out of the game. He said he misses competing and he clearly wants to carry on. I would be very upset if this was the end of his career as it is obviously the last thing he wants right now.
Obviously I didn't hear any of Andy's interview (is there a transcript?) but my eyes saw a very upset man because that's how we feel when our bodies let us down. He is frustrated because as he has said he has played at the highest level with this for years and now he can't. My heart bleeds for him.
WimbledonWestie
27-08-2017, 07:19
Poor Andy- and us. He did all he could, ever the consummate professional. Look forward to him being back at his fighting best whenever that will be. Maybe this year has always been meant to be a kind of Fedal swan song. Next year could be very exciting with so many top players coming back from injury alongside the next gen players who are finding their stride in the gap being left.
Oh poor Andy. I really thought that having made the journey he must be fit to play.
I am sooo gutted for Andy and really sad we won't be watching him play. I was looking forward to having back so much. I just keep clinging to Fed and Rafa's stories and how they came back to GS winning form after being out with injury (and in Rafa's case his fight with confidence) late in their careers. I'm an optimist, Andy is a fighter and I believe he can do it. We just have to be patient ... not one of my strengths
themass15
27-08-2017, 07:40
Devastated for Andy and, although selfish, for all of us. Come back stronger Andy. We are all waiting for you.
HoopGirl
27-08-2017, 08:48
I would like to watch Andys press conference - where can I get hold of it?
jackie55
27-08-2017, 09:12
I would like to watch Andys press conference - where can I get hold of it?
[QUOTE=lovetennis;230513]http://www.usopen.org/en_US/video/index.html?promo=subnav
You'd think Andy had stolen Christmas the grief he's receiving for his late withdrawal and "ruining" the draw thus preventing "the final everyone wants" between Nadal & Federer. :rolleyes: He withdrew before Monday's schedule was released which enabled the draw to be rejigged and the issue is surely with the ITF rules in these circumstances. Also from what Andy said, he would have been able to play a couple of rounds but took the decision to withdraw before playing which is surely fairer to all concerned especially "lucky loser Lukas Lacko" (say that quickly ;)).
Josephine
27-08-2017, 14:21
Exactly - he didn't make the draw and he doesn't make the rules. No guarantee Fed or Rafa would both get to final anyway (if draw had been redone) or even semi- final.
Given the stunt Federer pulled at the WTF one year, I don't think Federer supporters are in a position to criticise.
lovetennis
27-08-2017, 15:40
Given the stunt Federer pulled at the WTF one year, I don't think Federer supporters are in a position to criticise.
This is what has annoyed me most about the Fed fan outrage about Andy pulling out. Fed dumped that WTF match to protect his form for the DC Final the following week. If I recall correctly he didn't have the DC on his CV whereas he had won WTF numerous times. A clear case of dumping a match to enhance his chances of adding a missing piece of silverware to his trophy cabinet. Andy stepped in to save the day
The Nial Smith Design for the US Open 2017... :whistle:
Nighthawks of New York #USOpen #AndyMurray #NovakDjokovic #RafaelNadal #RogerFederer #StanWawrinka #KeiNishikori #EdwardHopper
https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21149927_1535623359837579_7860100122875590738_n.pn g?oh=7791562ef41458e80b7efe070b1d59b4&oe=5A254C4B
:shades:
This from the official US Open twitter account. :shocked: :facepalm:
https://s2.postimg.org/f8wvsin9l/adc.png (https://postimages.org/)
An insult to everyone else in the draw.
With no Andy, the gloss is definitely off the US Open now, but I most certainly will still be watching as much of it as I can...I just love watching tennis. Doesn't mean I won't miss Andy. I miss him like crazy, and it's not the same, but tennis must go on. At the moment I don't care who wins, but as the tournament unfolds I will probably start to form opinions on who I would like to see come out as the champ. Let's see how it goes!
Sallydaisy
27-08-2017, 19:55
It's very amusing that the USO doesn't think either Raffa or Feddykins will make the SF or F.
;)
(yeah, I know they can be scheduled on different days IF they make it that far)
And they've clearly not sold out either on any of those days; talk about flogging a dead hoss!
:laugh:
oop for Monday - http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/p_schedule7.pdf
RosieBear
27-08-2017, 21:24
With no Andy, the gloss is definitely off the US Open now, but I most certainly will still be watching as much of it as I can...I just love watching tennis. Doesn't mean I won't miss Andy. I miss him like crazy, and it's not the same, but tennis must go on. At the moment I don't care who wins, but as the tournament unfolds I will probably start to form opinions on who I would like to see come out as the champ. Let's see how it goes!
Ditto! This is *exactly* how I feel too, Pat. It goes without saying that Andy is uniquely special and it's not the same without him, but tennis must go as you say. I've always felt that what makes some diehard Fed/Rafa fans a little "odd" shall we say, is the way some act like that their object of affection is bigger than the sport, a surefire way to lose perspective. It's pretty churlish to consider a >130 year old tournamnent as meaningless just because a particular player can't win it in a given year, imo, so still plenty for all fans to enjoy and respect whether absolute faves are there or not.
Josephine
28-08-2017, 14:50
Will watch some when I am back. Will obviously try to watch big matches. But I don't care who wins and all the excitement and adrenalin is missing for me without Andy.
roytennisfan
28-08-2017, 15:01
Need a third screen, Kyle on Eurosport1. Heather on Es2 and Cameron on Eurosport player
It would seem courts 8, 9, 14(Cam's court) & 15 are non-televised. :grrr:
Went on Eurosport Player and they have not labelled all of live videos with the courts they are showing. You have to load each one to see what they are showing. You'd have thought with all the technology they have they could do something as basic as that.
Need a third screen, Kyle on Eurosport1. Heather on Es2 and Cameron on Eurosport player
Think I needed 3 laptops this afternoon - watched Kyle when in the garde. No way was I missing out on the rare bit of sunshine.
Went on Eurosport Player and they have not labelled all of live videos with the courts they are showing. You have to load each one to see what they are showing. You'd have thought with all the technology they have they could do something as basic as that.
That is a real pain isn't it! It was all right the way it used to be! I wonder can they address that soon? ...like before tomorrow!
Like Tursunov, Haider-Maurer was also playing under a PR and like Tursunov he's retired in the first round 6-7(3) 1-5 against Donskoy giving him his first ATP win since beating Federer in Dubai, 0-7 since.
Unlike Tursunov, Haider-Maurer hasn't performed this scam
Tumaini Carayol @tumcarayol
Dmitry Tursunov, who retired today, has earnt $323,626 in the 12 events he entered with a protected ranking since Jan '16. His record? 2-12.
Wee Diego is 2 sets up against his fellow countryman Berlocq. Come on wee man!!
Shocker from Daveed who looked as if he had returned to form only to lose meekly to Kukushkin 6-4 3-6 2-6 1-6.
roytennisfan
28-08-2017, 19:42
Shocker from Daveed who looked as if he had returned to form only to lose meekly to Kukushkin 6-4 3-6 2-6 1-6.
Really sad, seems he just collapsed which is very unlike him. You are right, he had been doing much better recently
The other wee man, Dudi, doing ok too. He's just beaten Eubanks in straight sets.
That is a real pain isn't it! It was all right the way it used to be! I wonder can they address that soon? ...like before tomorrow!
And they have!! Live videos show court numbers now!! They still need to update Euro 1 and 2!! Wrong matches titled there! But much better.
Young Denis handled Medvedev easily enough. He won in straights. I tbought it might have been much closer.
RoastLamb
28-08-2017, 22:39
Young Denis handled Medvedev easily enough. He won in straights. I tbought it might have been much closer.
I thought he would lose. :lol: Tsonga is a MUCH tougher prospect.
I thought he would lose. :lol: Tsonga is a MUCH tougher prospect.
Have some faith RL :cheer:
themass15
29-08-2017, 06:28
Already some upsets and even Sascha was pushed. Couldn't believe it when I turned on the TV just after 6.30 this morning and he was still playing!
I thought he would lose. :lol: Tsonga is a MUCH tougher prospect.
I think it could be like the long-ago Andy v Nalbandian match. Tsonga is experienced at coming back from two sets down and Denis may not yet have the stamina for five hard-fought sets.
suttontennis
29-08-2017, 07:56
congrats to Janko Tipsarevic for showing a welcome return to form and bearing Thomassi Kokkinakis in 5 sets.
JAMES4578
29-08-2017, 09:59
Was hoping Kokkinakis would take it but good win for Janko in tough match.
patmoren
29-08-2017, 11:00
That is a real pain isn't it! It was all right the way it used to be! I wonder can they address that soon? ...like before tomorrow!
Unfortunately Eurosport is now being run by a different company and they have undone all the research and development which was trialled so successfully last year. Such a shame, these people aren't as approachable as the previous ones.
Josephine
29-08-2017, 13:44
Already some upsets and even Sascha was pushed. Couldn't believe it when I turned on the TV just after 6.30 this morning and he was still playing!
Think that was due to some ridiculous opening ceremony lasting for ever and involving people singing, that Americans seem to find compulsory for all sporting events
oop for Tuesday - http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/p_schedule8.pdf
Wednesday's busy schedule (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/schedule9.html).
Aljaz second on the non-televised court 8, Kyle and Cameron both fifth and last on Louis Armstrong & court 6(televised) respectively. Could be late ones.
Look who's having a whinge. :rolleyes:
Eleanor Crooks @EleanorcrooksPA
Rafa clearly not too happy with Murray pulling out on Saturday. Says the timing was "strange". Also says crowd need to be quieter under roof
Steven reminding Nadal of what he did at Wimbledon in 2009. :big grin: :clap:
Steven @GBtennis
So much for thinking the Wimbledon 2009 no. 1 seed who w/drew after the draw would understand better than anyone ... http://bit.ly/2009wmwd
RoastLamb
30-08-2017, 00:33
Yes Rafa be quiet, hypocrite!!! (PS Still love ya!)
Denis has the evening match tomorrow. Pile on the pressure why don't ya! :lol:
Well Roger had a battle on his hands to come through a five setter 4-6, 6-2, 6-!, 1-6, 6-4 with young Tiafoe, who pushed him all the way, exciting times ahead for that young man..
JAMES4578
30-08-2017, 09:40
Surprised that Federer was extended so much (though Tiafoe shows some promise), it was a bit of a topsey turvey encounter though.
Agree James but young Tiafoe sure made Fed work for the win, I had intended to just check the score but ended up watching the last three sets, good job I am retired.:)
Nick not a happy bunny on Armstrong!:smashed:
RosieBear
30-08-2017, 18:14
Goffin v Benneteau was the pick for me. Goff taken the first set 6-4, just starting second set. Would love him to have a good run here.
A very disinterested looking Foggy has just lost to relatively unknown (to me anyway) fellow Italian Travagli....a bagel 4th set. Meanwhile Kyrgios has just lost to Millman. Nick still dogged with shoulder injury.
RoastLamb
30-08-2017, 20:47
What is it with NK? Whenever he has the good fortune to be in Federer's half stuff like this happens. Whenever he's in Rafa's half he's fit as a fiddle. So much talent. But as the commies said, he really needs a decent team: physio, trainer AND coach around him.
And a sports psychologist would be good too!
What is it with NK? Whenever he has the good fortune to be in Federer's half stuff like this happens. Whenever he's in Rafa's half he's fit as a fiddle. So much talent. But as the commies said, he really needs a decent team: physio, trainer AND coach around him.
And a sports psychologist would be good too!
IMO tennis isnt his passion , he doesnt seem happy to me
The contrast with when Kyrgios plays doubles is stark. He loves it and is a great partner. He's due to play here with good mate Matt Reid.
The contrast with when Kyrgios plays doubles is stark. He loves it and is a great partner. He's due to play here with good mate Matt Reid.
Well maybe he should stick to doubles then , cause he clearly isnt happy , and from his interview today , he doesnt have much interest in improving
JAMES4578
30-08-2017, 23:02
Bit frustrating with Kygrios out of another slam early,not sure of the extent of the shoulder injury but his attitude was at least as much of a hindrance. Ups and downs is one thing but several times when he doesn't give it his all. I wouldn't say he can't do justice to his talents but certainly needs to start committing fully and take the best advice.
Bit frustrating with Kygrios out of another slam early,not sure of the extent of the shoulder injury but his attitude was at least as much of a hindrance. Ups and downs is one thing but several times when he doesn't give it his all. I wouldn't say he can't do justice to his talents but certainly needs to start committing fully and take the best advice.
I agree James , but he has to want to do it , and he just doesnt seem that intersted to me , such a shame , cause yes, a great talent for sure
When Kyrgios played for the Singapore Slammers in the IPTL tournament that was held in December, he looked really happy and as tho he was enjoying being part of the team and playing his part in the Slammers victory.
Maybe he is at heart a team player. He has helped Australia to reach the semifinals of the DC by beating both John Isner and Sam Querrey in their tie against the USA..
Such a shame when he had a great chance to reach the latter stages of the US Open. I'm sure he would he would have had a really good opportunity of defeating Fed if he had won through to R4.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/roger-federer-handed-huge-boost-as-injured-nick-kyrgios-crashes-out-of-the-us-open-6891266/
RoastLamb
31-08-2017, 00:20
Yes I think Karanga is right: he's a team player, doesn't like the isolating aspects of being a singles player. My daughter felt like that about tennis too. She loves playing doubles but avoids singles like the plague. Plus I think Nick feeds off the crowd and atmosphere but he can't be centre court prime time all the time.
A three set win for the talented young Denis Shapovalov over Tsonga 6-4, 6-4, 7-6. He next plays our very own Kyle Edmund!!!
Head to Head for Kyle & Denis 1-1
JAMES4578
31-08-2017, 04:08
Unfortunately Sacha Zverev out in 4 sets to Coric, perhaps a bit of pressure but surely only matter of time before he goes deep in a slam. Mischa though did make to 3rd round,winning in 5 over Paire. Denis certainly continuing to make a mark, though personally disappointed it was at the expense of Tsonga. Kyle doing well to advance in straights, should be interesting in next round!
RoastLamb
31-08-2017, 04:53
Blimey Denis!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: straight sets too!
He lost to Kyle at Davis Cup. He's a different player now but so is Kyle.
Disappointed about Zverev. Did not see that coming at all.
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 07:24
Well done Kyle :clap: Not surprised to see Sascha go out. Despite the hype he hasn't done anything in slams - believe R3 is his best. His true time will come for sure, but right now he's still just a baby.
Edit: just seen his presser & him talking about weight of expectation on him.:sad: it's unfair stand-out youngsters have to deal with this, but it's not going to change.
themass15
31-08-2017, 07:52
Looking forward to seeing Kyle play Denis. Just hope it isn't a night match.
Sees who's left in "Andy's half" and :banghead: :crying:. Mind you Coric is still there. :p
Bottom half R3: *whoarethey.gif*
Querrey-Albot
M.Zverev-Isner
Fabbiano-Lorenzi
Coric-Anderson
Edmund-Shapovalov
PCB-Mahut
Pouille-Kukushkin
Cilic-Schwartzman
Josephine
31-08-2017, 08:49
Oh dear. It does make the lop-sided draw look even worse now. Could be another non-event final.
JAMES4578
31-08-2017, 09:22
Not surprised to see Sascha go out. Despite the hype he hasn't done anything in slams - believe R3 is his best. His true time will come for sure, but right now he's still just a baby.
Edit: just seen his presser & him talking about weight of expectation on him.:sad: it's unfair stand-out youngsters have to deal with this, but it's not going to change.
Whilst unfair the best tend find the way to the with the pressure and sure Sacha will become stronger in time. True he hasn't had great runs in slams but this was the first time he was a top 8 seed , his best is last 16 at Wimbledon this year when he lost a 5 setter to Raonic, also lost a 5 setter in the third round to Nadal in Aus.
Blimey Denis!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: straight sets too!
He lost to Kyle at Davis Cup. He's a different player now but so is Kyle.
Disappointed about Zverev. Did not see that coming at all.
See Roastie , FAITH FAITH girl !!! Hes playing awesome !!
RoastLamb
31-08-2017, 13:40
See Roastie , FAITH FAITH girl !!! Hes playing awesome !!
Not going to lie, I held my breath the entire time wondering when Tsonga was going to come back and win in 5 :lol:
Today's OOP. (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/p_schedule10.pdf)
Apparently Kyrgios (with Kokkinakis) watched Jordan Thompson's match last night. Team player.
RoastLamb
31-08-2017, 13:45
Tom Tebbutt's latest blog: (http://www.tenniscanada.com/tebbutt-denis-tennis/)
About Kyle: Shapovalov said, “I’m playing Kyle Edmund who is so solid. He’s an unbelievable player. He goes for his shots. He’s not afraid to take it to the guy. There’s no easy matches here. “I mean for a guy like me… maybe for a guy like Zverev or Federer you could say it’s open a bit…for a guy like me, every match is tough and I’m going to have to battle it out.”
Who's the unlucky umpire for the great rematch? :pirate:
themass15
31-08-2017, 16:56
Perhaps it will be the same one as in Canada
Dimitrov down 2 sets and a break to Andrey Rublev.
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 19:25
Oh no!! C'mon Dimi the new you can turn this around! Dimi, Domi and Goff are my picks whenever Andy not playing. Really fancied this for Dimi after Cincy, but think he's getting jittery about the open draw.
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 19:37
:crying::crying::crying: This is a crazy tournament.
wow that young Russian guy is good !!! Dimi & Berdych both gone
Yes , it is crazy isnt it , but I like it
Oh no!!! :sad: I had Dimi down as my preferred tournament winner - I'm definitely not a happy bunny!:crying::crying::crying:
The sun sets on yet another Dimitrov false dawn. :wave:
Rosalind
31-08-2017, 19:39
So many teens! I feel like the guard is changing. And the players are younger than the ball'kids'. :laugh:
The Gate Keepers are falling , and the young ones are rising !!
That puts Aljaz's loss to Rublev in a bit of perspective.
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 19:54
Three slams this year; Fed's won 2, Rafa 1. Not much of a changing of a guard that I can see. If/when the youngers take out the big guys next year, when all are fighting fit, I'll tip my hat more.
JAMES4578
31-08-2017, 20:01
Gutting Dimii out when seemed to have chance of a good run but you never really count on him. Another upset with Berdy out but quite pleased for Dolgo. Some youngsters making an impression but the big guns still dominant in the slams,bound to be challenging at some point though.
oop for Friday - http://www.usopen.org/en_US/scores/schedule/p_schedule11.pdf
Kyle and Shapovalov are second on Arthur Ashe not before 6.00 pm.
I'll be away - not sure how much I'll be able to catch up with sadly. Good luck Kyle!
:GBflag:
Ah, Youzhny has woken up in the second set.
themass15
31-08-2017, 21:05
Just finished watching the final episode of Top of the Lake to find Federer is 1 set all and a break down in the third.
JAMES4578
31-08-2017, 21:20
If Fed to advance will have to go the distance again, Youzhny in ascendancy and playing well, Roger was pretty wayward in 3rd though.
:crying::crying::crying: This is a crazy tournament.
These results are definitely crazy! I am simply left gasping like a fish! The whole tournament is being turned on its head! There'll soon be nobody left we know!! (Being facetious!). And there is Youzhny just gone 2 sets to 1 up against Fed!! I said I would wait till things unfolded before I started backing anyone. At the moment I really haven't a clue! Think I'll wait until week 2 and see who is left!
WimbledonWestie
31-08-2017, 21:24
It's mental. I was joking to my brother that (most of ) the top players have some axe to grind with the event and the call offs and early exits are actually part of an elaborate wind up. It's so crazy it's making it very watchable even without Andy, I just keep wondering who will be next.
JAMES4578
31-08-2017, 21:31
Fed up 4-1 in 4th though, order restored for now!
themass15
31-08-2017, 21:33
2 five setters in a row will take it out of him
themass15
31-08-2017, 21:58
Unfortunately I think it is Fed's now.
JAMES4578
31-08-2017, 22:04
Youzhny was cramping so think little chance for him now.
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 22:05
Fed's usually so clinical in the early rounds, wonder if he's still carrying a back injury...not watching him, I'm following Goff's tussle with Pella, c'mon David.
Fed a break up now. I can't really see any way back for Mikhail - more's the pity.
Sadly, that's it for Youzhny but on tonight's showing, I really can't see Fed winning this title.
It's Lopez next for Fed - go Feli!
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 22:53
Goff in a real battle with Pella, Goffster takes fourth set tb, into a decider, c'mon
RoastLamb
31-08-2017, 22:57
Woot! Denis gets AA AGAIN!!! Really hope this doesn't go to his head like it did with Genie.
Looking forward to Rafa's match. Thiem did good just now. Glad he survived. Disappointed for the Youzenator!
RosieBear
31-08-2017, 23:33
Phew, a tight battle but Goff makes it through :phew: he so deserves a great run here after that horrific injury in Paris. Relieved to see Domi safely through too.
Woot! Denis gets AA AGAIN!!! Really hope this doesn't go to his head like it did with Genie.
Looking forward to Rafa's match. Thiem did good just now. Glad he survived. Disappointed for the Youzenator!
Dont think it will , he seems more grounded than her , dont think he grew up with a silver spoon
RoastLamb
01-09-2017, 03:42
Dont think it will , he seems more grounded than her , dont think he grew up with a silver spoon
It is nice that he credits his mum with coaching him. Reminds me of Andy in that respect. Hope he doesn't go crazy with sponsorship deals like she has coz he doesn't need the distraction.
RoastLamb
01-09-2017, 05:03
Tough one for Rafa. Started out horribly and lost first set. Luckily he pulled it together and won in four. His opponent played lights out for the first set so kudos to him.
Top Half R3:
Nadal-L.Mayer
Troicki-Dolgopolov
Goffin-Monfils
Dzumhur-Rublev
Federer-Lopez
Kohlshreiber-Millman
RBA-Del Potro
Mannarino-Thiem
themass15
01-09-2017, 10:09
Love to see DelPo come through
Yes I'd love to see Delboy come through as well. He's got a really good chance the way the draw is panning out.
Federer looked far from convincing last night. I wonder if he'd won that match if Mikhail hadn't cramped.
sorry guys but CMONNN Denis !!! :getcoat: :lol:
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