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Andy vs Medvedev match thread.
Not before 9.00 am UK time (7.00 pm local time - 10 hours difference)
Silverdee
01-01-2019, 22:07
I too thought it was 9.00 am our time yet Eurosport have it listed as showing at 11.30 pm?
Seems that the Eurosport listings are properly messed up. They have Andy playing live against Medvedev in one hour from now, which is completely nuts!! I think they must mean a replay of the match against Duckworth. Somebody must have been celebrating the New Year a bit too much!!:laugh:
The Very Best of Luck Andy!!! :thumbup::thumbup:
Phew. Recorded it to find it was ski jumping! Now listed for 8pm this evening on Eurosport. Does that sound right?
Phew. Recorded it to find it was ski jumping! Now listed for 8pm this evening on Eurosport. Does that sound right?
Just looked at schedule in UK time and it says 9am!!! Now I’m totally confused. I have to go out at 9.30am :grrr:
Silverdee
02-01-2019, 08:56
It’s on Eurosport channel 864 starting at 9.00 am. Look for that channel number
It’s on Eurosport channel 864 starting at 9.00 am. Look for that channel number
It's 410 on my Sky! The TV guide is still all to pot!
Medvedev wins the coin toss and elects to receive.
david1610
02-01-2019, 09:08
C'mon Andy!
Players warming up. All the best of luck, Andy. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
First game safely out of the way.
david1610
02-01-2019, 09:17
Aargh my Eurosport showing skiing and Hopman Cup (from Portugal). Can't find a stream. ANybody got a stream please?
http://cricfree.live/watchfeeds/index/21
Medvedev breaks after a couple of errors from Andy.
david1610
02-01-2019, 09:24
Thank you Hawkeye but I cannot get past the publicity.. can't see an 'X' to click... :(
david1610
02-01-2019, 09:38
How is Andy playing?
Thank you Hawkeye but I cannot get past the publicity.. can't see an 'X' to click... :(All of these things are unwatchable without an adblocker.
Nice loose game from Medvedev!
Think Andy was unlucky in his R2 opponent here, a young gun firing on all cylinders and Andy finding his feet again. Would love him to win it to give him some confidence for the AO. x
JAMES4578
02-01-2019, 09:44
Andy comes back from 40-15 to ger break back and easy hold for 5-4! Hopefully now putting Mevedev under a bit of pressure, let's go!
david1610
02-01-2019, 09:47
I know and have one and very rarely have a problem. Anyway, come on Andy!
2 break points for Medvedev.
Another BP.
Andy being too safe IMO, especially as he needs to keep points shorter.
Medvedev breaks, and will serve for the set.
david1610
02-01-2019, 09:56
Another BP.
Andy being too safe IMO, especially as he needs to keep points shorter.
Finally got in and saw last three points of that game. His opponent is hitting so hard and the difference in level between R1 and R2 ... C'mon Andy!
JAMES4578
02-01-2019, 09:56
Great shot by Medvedev for the break but Andy gave a bit away there, come on!
First set to Medvedev :sad:
Andy losing the long rallies.
First set to Medvedev.
JAMES4578
02-01-2019, 09:58
First set gone, hopefully Andy can be a bit more assertive in 2nd.
Not so far, 3 break points for Medvedev in game 1.
JAMES4578
02-01-2019, 10:05
Andy with it all to do as Medvedev goes up 2-0, come on!
Rosalind
02-01-2019, 10:08
It's just a huge step up with this number 4 seed - he's no slouch. :(
Another break point, really need this game or it could go away fast...
JAMES4578
02-01-2019, 10:15
Long game but Medvedev breaks again for 3-0 and look like he has too much for Andy today.
david1610
02-01-2019, 10:15
From what I have seen, Medvedev seems top ten level tonight. Or am I overcompensating?
Reminds me of Djokovic in "brick wall" mode.
HoopGirl
02-01-2019, 10:22
Reminds me of Djokovic in "brick wall" mode.
Blimey! Poor Andy - not what he needs just now!
well at least Andy's got his name on the board in this set!
Andy on the board at least.
Sallydaisy
02-01-2019, 10:29
Stat from Kevin Mitchell on Twitter
@kevinmitchell50 (https://mobile.twitter.com/kevinmitchell50) 20m
(https://mobile.twitter.com/kevinmitchell50/status/1080405403702308864)
Nobody on Tour last year won more hardcourt matches than Medvedev’s 38 - which Murray no doubt knows, a set and a break down in Brisbane, where he’s never lost.
5-2, the fight-back starts here!
Game over!! Gutted for Andy :crying: :crying:
This was always going to be hard. So sad for Andy. xx
Awful day for the Brits in Brisbane, all 3 out of the singles.
scrapaddict
02-01-2019, 10:36
far too manu unforced errors and Andy really didn't look as if he was enjoying himself. Not sure he's physically ready for his comeback but we know he will always fight!
david1610
02-01-2019, 10:37
7-5 6-2
Well round 1 was a relatively gentle welcome back to the circuit. Not being seeded, Andy can end up facing opponents playing top ten tennis in round 2 even of a 250 event. That was a bit too much for him at the moment.
JAMES4578
02-01-2019, 10:42
Medvedev may have been impressive, however Andy a bit off the pace and work needed to make significant progress . However perhaps not too surprising at this point in season, tbh Murray likely to have quite a few tough draws so challenge ahead. We did see some glimpses of glory this week mind you but not the consistency and far tougher opponent today.
angiebabez
02-01-2019, 10:53
far too manu unforced errors and Andy really didn't look as if he was enjoying himself. Not sure he's physically ready for his comeback but we know he will always fight!
Well if he's not physically ready now he never will be
Aw come on, it's not that bad. Sure it's disappointing not to see Andy go further, but realistically that result was on the cards today. It was a big challenge for Andy after such a long injury time out. It's good to see he's still willing to fight out there, and I'm sure many questions have been answered for him out there today. We know we have to be patient as he works his way through these tough matches and he will! He will begin to find ways as he always does. Daniil was just too good today; he was relentless and didn't make too many mistakes. It's just so good that Andy is out there in the mix again and I look forward to his next tournament: does anyone know if he will be playing in Sydney?
Sallydaisy
02-01-2019, 11:36
I've read that there are Wild Cards available for Sydney but a lot depends on whether Andy and his team think more match play would be good for him at this stage.
If it's matches he needs, then this would be a no-brainer.
Was out so tracking it on live scores. Sad, sad, sad. However not unexpected. I think he needs to do what is right for him. It might be that playing and realising his hip isn’t going to handle the brutality of the tour, will enable him to realise his days as a professional player are reaching the end. However British Tennis desperately needs him as a role model and coach. Hurting for him:-(
david1610
02-01-2019, 12:42
What worries me is Andy's comment at 6:09 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=373&v=ogLbncJM5hs during his official post-match Interview after the first match: "They have NO idea" - talking about all the different specialists he has seen, and their differing views, coupled with the quotes from the surgeon who carried out the operation about making the hip the "least worst" and that it was beyond being fixable. Until this week I thought Andy's situation was very different. I hope the differing opinions have not made Andy determined to try anyway and I hope if there is a medical opinion that tells him to stop before he causes himself long term harm, he listens to it. I know he wants to compete, but not at any cost. I am not so worried about his tennis now as his body for the rest of his life. :(
What worries me is Andy's comment at 6:09 at https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=373&v=ogLbncJM5hs during his official post-match Interview after the first match: "They have NO idea" - talking about all the different specialists he has seen, and their differing views, coupled with the quotes from the surgeon who carried out the operation about making the hip the "least worst" and that it was beyond being fixable. Until this week I thought Andy's situation was very different. I hope the differing opinions have not made Andy determined to try anyway and I hope if there is a medical opinion that tells him to stop before he causes himself long term harm, he listens to it. I know he wants to compete, but not at any cost. I am not so worried about his tennis now as his body for the rest of his life. :(
That’s roughly how I feel. I have said before how shocked I was seeing Borg at Wimbledon in 2016 - barely able to walk. What this is doing to their bodies is horrifying. Andy is 31. His hips have got a lot of years to serve him. As I myself have discovered recently if any part of your body is wonky, it impacts on the rest of you. I shall be really sad if he does retire, but I think that the sadness will be trumped by relief.
From my own personal knowledge of joint problems, I have never thought he was going to be able to come back from this. It will give me no pleasure to be proved right.
WimbledonWestie
02-01-2019, 13:08
Aw come on, it's not that bad. Sure it's disappointing not to see Andy go further, but realistically that result was on the cards today. It was a big challenge for Andy after such a long injury time out. It's good to see he's still willing to fight out there, and I'm sure many questions have been answered for him out there today. We know we have to be patient as he works his way through these tough matches and he will! He will begin to find ways as he always does. Daniil was just too good today; he was relentless and didn't make too many mistakes. It's just so good that Andy is out there in the mix again and I look forward to his next tournament: does anyone know if he will be playing in Sydney?
I'm with this! He's not played much against this calibre of opponent for 18 months! And very little of matches 2 days in a row either. Don't think his hip let him down today. Just needs time to build up match practice and match fitness. I'd rather he played a few exhos at Kooyong rather than go to Sydney. We need to be patient.
far too manu unforced errors and Andy really didn't look as if he was enjoying himself. Not sure he's physically ready for his comeback but we know he will always fight!
Very harsh ... he hasn't played a match since September!
Aw come on, it's not that bad. Sure it's disappointing not to see Andy go further, but realistically that result was on the cards today. It was a big challenge for Andy after such a long injury time out. It's good to see he's still willing to fight out there, and I'm sure many questions have been answered for him out there today. We know we have to be patient as he works his way through these tough matches and he will! He will begin to find ways as he always does. Daniil was just too good today; he was relentless and didn't make too many mistakes. It's just so good that Andy is out there in the mix again and I look forward to his next tournament: does anyone know if he will be playing in Sydney?
Exactly Pat, completely agree
WimbledonWestie
02-01-2019, 13:22
Exactly Caro!
Andy's press conference on the Newspaper thread
scrapaddict
02-01-2019, 15:45
I was really worried about Andy and his health rather than criticising him for errors!!
I think we need to remember how Djokovic played when he first returned from injury, Andy even with his hip issue which as he has told is far better than it was, is playing 100% better than Djokovic was on his return. Andy is very savvy young man and will only play if he still enjoys the fight of match play.:thumbup:
HoopGirl
02-01-2019, 18:27
Been thinking about what you've posted David1610 - and had a listen to his press.
It's not unusual for the medical profession to not agree on what a problem is - orthopaedic surgeons differ from physios and other bodyworkers about what the issues are and the way forward - and even within their specific professions they have differing opinions about the issues and especially about the way forward.
One interesting thing is that arthritis is very common in most people as shown in scans etc and is often blamed as the cause of pain but scans also show arthritis where there is no pain. So a joint can have pain and show arthritis, or have pain but no arthritis or have arthritis and have no pain. The body is complex and no one knows for sure what will happen to each individual.
Borg was only 26 when he retired - he didnt play heaps of tennis. McEnroe is still playing and seems to be fit.
Lots of people need new hips and knees who arent professional athletes - Andy's got to decide - taking advice - whether playing will make it will get worse. I remember when he returned last year he said that playing wouldnt make it worse.
I guess it depends by what you mean worse - the actual structure of the joint, the surrounding muscles and ligaments or the pain. He was spending massive amounts of time having physio last year - it sounds like this side of things has improved. It's quality of life at the end of the day.
Whatever way you look at it these games are so so precious to him and us at this point.
RosieBear
02-01-2019, 18:36
I totally echo everything Mickey has said above. An interesting couple of matches. Andy was naturally very emotional after the first - but feel we can't read too much into it as, after being out so long, his post-match reaction will reflect a whole host of positive and negative emotions that can't really be unpicked and separated. I thought Andy looked pretty good today given he was facing a class player brimming with confidence. Never likely Andy was going to win, but great to see him battle. Also good to see him shortening points - shows that he was thinking clearly. He said last year that when in great pain that's all he can focus on meaning tactics, shot selection etc go out the window, so hopefully his clear thinking today is an indication that his pain is reasonably manageable. Overall, imo it's too early to feel either reassured or overly worried by these matches - only time will tell.
david1610
02-01-2019, 18:40
Been thinking about what you've posted David1610 - and had a listen to his press.
It's not unusual for the medical profession to not agree on what a problem is - orthopaedic surgeons differ from physios and other bodyworkers about what the issues are and the way forward - and even within their specific professions they have differing opinions about the issues and especially about the way forward.
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Whatever way you look at it these games are so so precious to him and us at this point.
Thank you for your comments. I used to be married to a doctor, and her father was a surgeon, though not this area. What that gave me was a "look behind the screen" if you like so I know about the different opinions and also how "this will need x weeks of y" can vary so much between individuals and their motivation. My twin sister came through a life endangering operation recently because going to keep fit classes regularly, her body was able to withstand the demands this placed on it, according to her surgeon.
Andy really wants to play and see what he can do now. But I hope he does not think the doctors have "no idea" and stops listening to them - that would be my main worry.
PS Put it like this, I have always posted as a fan of Andy the tennis player. This week I was also thinking of Andy as a father.
My physio was surprised how quickly I began moving after a hip replacement. She said it was because the muscles etc. around the hip were very strong. I had been doing the special exercises before the operation. It has paid dividends ever since.
I was really worried about Andy and his health rather than criticising him for errors!!
Fair enough but I'm sure you can see how "far too many unforced errors" could be seen as criticism. We are all Andy fans and all want what's best for him.
I agree with what others have been posting about it being far too soon to tell how things will go long term. Just keeping everything crossed that he can play the sport he loves for a bit longer.
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