WIMBLEDON 1-14 July 2019 - Main thread and Andy doubles

[cazza99]

Wimbledon 2019

[Stell]

Well done on Paul Jubb being given a wildcard: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/48690003.

[cazza99]

Wild cards announced - https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/486900 (https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/48690003)

More wild cards to be announced later on but these are the ones announced so far.

Wimbledon wildcards

Men's singles
1. Marcos Baghdatis (Cyp)
2. Jay Clarke (GB)
3. Paul Jubb (GB)
4. James Ward (GB)
Women's singles
1. Harriet Dart (Gbr)
2. Katie Swan (GB)
3. Iga Swiatek (Pol)
4. Heather Watson (GB)
Men's doubles
1. Liam Broady (GB) & Scott Clayton (GB)
2. Jay Clarke (GB) & James Ward (GB)
3. Dan Evans (GB) & Lloyd Glasspool (GB)
4. Lleyton Hewitt (Aus) & Jordan Thompson (Aus)
5. Ken Skupski (GB) & John-Patrick Smith (Aus)
Women's doubles
1. Naiktha Bains (GB) & Naomi Broady (GB)
2. Freya Christie (GB) & Katie Swan (GB)
3. Harriet Dart (GB) & Katie Dunne (GB)
4. Sarah Beth Grey (GB) & Eden Silva (GB)
Men's wheelchair singles
1. Gordon Reid (GB)
Women's wheelchair singles
1. Jordanne Whiley (GB)
Quad wheelchair singles
1. Andy Lapthorne (GB)

[Caley Shaun]

I am slightly disappointed that Jack Draper did not get a main draw wildcard. Especially when James Ward gets one nearly every year yet does not deliver. I am happy for Paul Jubb and Jay Clarke though.
:)

[Sallydaisy]

I am slightly disappointed that Jack Draper did not get a main draw wildcard. Especially when James Ward gets one nearly every year yet does not deliver. I am happy for Paul Jubb and Jay Clarke though.
:)
I'm quite surprised that Baggy has been given a MDWC ... and since they've still got 4 MDWCs places available who knows what might change?

MENS QUALIFYING WILDCARDS
Liam BROADY (GBR)
Jan CHOINSKI (GBR)
Jack DRAPER (GBR)
Evan HOYT (GBR)
Nicolas MAHUT (FRA)
Aidan MCHUGH (GBR)
Chun Hsin TSENG (TPE)
Wild Card Play-off Place*
Wild Card Play-off Place*
* Wild Card play-offs are being held at Aorangi Park - no public access.

[Teresa]

I am happy with Marcos Baghdatis getting a wildcard. I have never forgotten the way he behaved in a late running match again AM, He could have screwed things up for AM very easily, by slowing up, chucking a fake MTO in, and forced the match into the next day. However he behaved with integrity and in a rare sporting manner.

He was also the only player to take a set off AM in London 2012.

He is also an older statesman of the sport. Let him have his day. It might be his last at Wimbledon. Leyton Hewitt has benefited from a few.

[RosieBear]

I am slightly disappointed that Jack Draper did not get a main draw wildcard. Especially when James Ward gets one nearly every year yet does not deliver. I am happy for Paul Jubb and Jay Clarke though.
:)

100% agree. WC should have gone to Jack Draper. 17 yrs old, exciting prospect for British tennis. Ludicrous imo to give it MB - I like him well enough, but his day is well past. (That he didn't sabotage things for Andy should just be considered normal/expected form).

[Jan]

Probably the wrong thread, but this news just in:

Fever-Tree Championships
‏Verified account @QueensTennis
17m17 minutes ago

Just in...

@Andy_Murray to play doubles with Pierre-Hugues Herbert at @Wimbledon.

[Alis]

Probably the wrong thread, but this news just in:

Fever-Tree Championships
‏Verified account @QueensTennis
17m17 minutes ago

Just in...

@Andy_Murray to play doubles with Pierre-Hugues Herbert at @Wimbledon.

Wow - Herbert is a brilliant doubles player!!!

[Stell]

I'm glad that Andy Murray and Pierre-Hugues Herbert will be playing doubles at Wimbledon. I've always believed that Herbert is a very good player.

[exislander]

Re Baghdatis wildcard, this from atp website - it is the last tournament of his career.

https://www.atptour.com/en/news/baghdatis-to-retire-wimbledon-2019

[themass15]

I'm glad that Andy Murray and Pierre-Hugues Herbert will be playing doubles at Wimbledon. I've always believed that Herbert is a very good player.

Don't think Mahut is too happy about it and he lost in qualifying today

[Alis]

I'm sorry Mahut didn't get through to the main draw - he was playing so well last week. Isn't he playing doubles with someone else though?

[Caro]

100% agree. WC should have gone to Jack Draper. 17 yrs old, exciting prospect for British tennis. Ludicrous imo to give it MB - I like him well enough, but his day is well past. (That he didn't sabotage things for Andy should just be considered normal/expected form).

Yep, completely agree. Marcos hasn't won a match since forever it seems. Really disappointed for Jack Draper who did sooo well in junior Wimbledon last year. Sends out completely the wrong message IMO.

[themass15]

Wonder what Andy's decision will be re playing Mixed Doubles

[Silverdee]

Wimbledon scheduling problem for Andy’s doubles

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-7185419/Andy-Murray-exile-Wimbledon-not-former-champion-Centre-Court.html

[Speedy Hawk]

It shame Jack Draper not get wild card main draw.

[exislander]

It shame Jack Draper not get wild card main draw.

He had wild card to qualifying but lost first round to Y Uchiyama.

[piscesperson]

Leading players want Wimbledon to increase prize money despite £38m pot
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jun/27/players-wimbledon-increase-prize-money-tennis

[cazza99]

Posted on the newspaper thread but belongs here too.

BBC (https://www.bbc.com/sport/tennis/48746954) - Wimbledon 2019: What's changed at the All England Club this year

- Andy Murray, but not as we know him
- A covered court one
- No more marathon matches
- Going green(er)
- More early play
- More quad wheelchair tennis

[exislander]

Nadal is in Federer's half. Djokovic has Kohlschrieber first round.

[patlowe]

Just listened to the draw. Some very interesting encounters on the way! Can't wait. :jitterbug: :tennis:

[patlowe]

Andy and PHH to face Copil and Humbert in first round!

[saivet]

Any idea what court Andy will likely be playing on and for which day?

[themass15]

Any idea what court Andy will likely be playing on and for which day?

Likely to be Wednesday or Thursday if play up to speed. According to Daily Mail will be not be on Centre or No.1, so probably No.2 or No.3. I would guess 2 because it is an all ticket court and if it was 3, there will be queues round the block

[themass15]

Have you seen the lovely picture of Andy with Pierre HH on the Wimbledon site?

[JAMES4578]

Certainly some interesting matches early on, Nadal could face Kygrios in the 2nd round (if Aussie gets past Thompson) and other openers to look out for include Thiem v Querrey, Djokovic v Kohlschreiber,Cilic v Mannarino, Tsonga v Tomic and Anderson v Herbert. First time for a while of course no speculation about Andy in singles (even if he ended up not playing last year), the Murray Brothers possibly could face each other in 3rd Round of the Doubles, though Herbert/Andy would likely face 6th seeds Mektic/Skugor in 2nd Round. https://www.atptour.com/en/news/djokovic-nadal-federer-wimbledon-2019-singles-draw

[saivet]

Likely to be Wednesday or Thursday if play up to speed. According to Daily Mail will be not be on Centre or No.1, so probably No.2 or No.3. I would guess 2 because it is an all ticket court and if it was 3, there will be queues round the block
Thanks! Hopefully he starts on the Wednesday then. I have tickets for first Friday on Court 2, so seeing him would be awesome.

[exislander]

Have you seen the lovely picture of Andy with Pierre HH on the Wimbledon site?

No, can't find that.

Ok, now I see it!

[piscesperson]

Wimbledon ditches plastic racket covers in sustainability drive
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jun/28/wimbledon-ditches-plastic-racket-covers-in-sustainability-drive

[JAMES4578]

As far as Brits go Edumund has Munar and likely Verdasco in 2nd round, Evans has Delbonis with winner facing 18th seed Basilashvili or Ward if he can upset him. Norrie faces Istomin and success would be lead to clash with Nishikori assuming goes to form.

[jackie55]

Have you seen the lovely picture of Andy with Pierre HH on the Wimbledon site?

No, l haven't seen the picture, do you know where can l see it:thumbup:

[lynne]

No, l haven't seen the picture, do you know where can l see it:thumbup:


Here you go jackie!!!!


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-JYn7XX4AAF585.jpg

[jackie55]

Brilliant, thanks Lynne looks like they are enjoying themselves:thanks:

[lynne]

Brilliant, thanks Lynne looks like they are enjoying themselves:thanks:

No problem jackie, save everyone looking for it, just hope I've got the right one!! lol!

[Speedy Hawk]

It going be very interesting Wimbledon.

[cazza99]

oop in pdf form - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/2019/schedule/pdf/schedulePDF8.pdf

oop website form - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule8.html

latest version of the men's draw - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/2019_MS_draw.pdf

[Sallydaisy]

From Twitter

Eleanor Crooks‏ @EleanorcrooksPA (https://twitter.com/EleanorcrooksPA) 34m34 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/EleanorcrooksPA/status/1145628881526906881)
Andy Murray's first doubles match likely to be on Centre or Court 1 because of safety concerns around getting him to one of the smaller courts. Likely to be after three singles matches

[Silverdee]

Then I hope he plays on Wed on Centre when we are there!

[themass15]

A tad disappointed with the OOP on Centre tomorrow. My sister and those on Court 1 have fared better. Will have to look for a match on an outside Court after Federer finishes.

[Linda]

Tsitsipas and A Zverev both in a spot of bother!

[JAMES4578]

Sacha Zverev first big casualty in the men's event , Vesely has at times been tricky in the past but did not expect this result-another blow for the German! 3 all with Tsitsipas and Fabbiano-hope Stefanos comes through!

Unfortunately Tsitsipas out as well going down 6-3 in 5th-it's all happening!

[exislander]

No, Stefanos out too!

[exislander]

Heard Sue Barker say 90% certain Andy/Serena to play!

[Sallydaisy]

Some 1st round news ... British first!
Heather Watson won 7'5, 6'4 and Kyle Edmund won 6'4, 6'4, 6'4.

MENS DRAW
Tsitsipas[7] (lost to Fabbiano) and A.Zverev[6] (lost to Vesely) both went out first round, as did Dimitrov (lost to Moutet) and Monfils (retired after a fall) who lost to fellow Frenchman Humbert. Andys' erstwhile doubles partner Pierre-Hugues Herbert lost in 3 sets to KAnderson, giving the Frenchman a lot more time to practice with Muzzah!

Djokovic[1] beat Kohlschreiber after a minor wobble in the opening game. And despite wins from a few younger chaps the march of the 'older' guard continued with wins for Wawrinka, Verdasco, Tipsarevic, Chardy, Karlovic, Goffin, Darcis, Pella, Cuevas and Haase. Honourable mention is made for Feliciano Lopez who has picked up where he left off on 23rd June and won his first round match here in straight sets over Giron.

On Canada Day FelixAA[19] beat fellow Canadian Vasek Pospisil, and Milos Raonic came through against Gunneswaran. RoastLambs' cheers can be heard from across the pond ...
:jitterbug:

LADIES SINGLES
Story of the day is Coco Gauff defeating Venus Williams in straight sets and remaining as cool as a cucumber on her Grand Slam debut. One to watch, she was signed up by Federers' management company when she was only 13 years old - they can do my Lottery for me every week if they like!
;)

The ladies seeds tended to fare better than their male counterparts with one notable exception - Naomi Osaka[2] who lost in straight sets to Putinseva. Other seeds who lost were [10]Sabalenka,[16]Vondrousova and [29]Kasatkina.

There were wins for Simona Halep[7], Caro Woz[14], Sevastova[12], Svitolina[8], Pliskova[3], Sakkari[31], Keys[17], Martic[24], Kontaveit[20], Kenin[27], Hsieh[28] and Vika Azarenka.

[roytennisfan]

See Dan is first on court18 tomorrow, wish I was going

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

[goldfish]

Definitely where I'll be heading Roy

[patlowe]

Wow! Did you all enjoy the first day today!! There was so much going on at the same time I could scarcely keep up. I may be wrong, but for me that was one of the most eventful first days in a while. I'm disappointed about Stef, and to a lesser extent Sascha. Whilst Fabbiano played a great match today, I feel he may not be able to sustain that form and will not go deep which may leave the tourney the poorer for not having the likes of Stef around. We shall see. Looking forward to Dan tomorrow. More juggling to do as Wardy is playing at the same time as Dan. Enjoy day 2 everybody!

[lynne]

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[patlowe]

Definitely 'Realistic Expectations'! Superb detail!

[lovetennis]

See Dan is first on court18 tomorrow, wish I was going

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

I am on court 1 tomorrow but as Dan starts at 11am will head to 18 first.

[RoastLamb]

Well if I had centre court tix for tomorrow I'd be really disappointed. Court 1 is WAY better!!!

I can't believe it's been a decade since I was at Wimbledon. Time really does fly. Enjoyed the Canucks' matches today.

[Rosalind]

:surprised:Three of my fave next gen players out - Sasha, Stefanos and Naomi. So much for the next gen. They all looked so sad in their interviews.

[Stell]

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/1147593/Andy-Murray-Pierre-Hugues-Herbert-injury-wimbledon-doubles-draw I hope Pierre is okay to play with Andy.

[JAMES4578]

Querrey puts out Thiem, disappointing but suppose not total surprise. A bit of a shock it was 6-0 in the 4th though (a lot going on today,caught some of it )

[Sallydaisy]

Federer down a break 3-5 to Lloyd Harris (who?).

Querrey has just beaten Thiem 6-7(4) 7-6(1), 6-3, 6-0

Cam Norrie 2 sets up against Denis Istomin and has already broken in the 3rd set, serving at 2-1.

Noah Rubin took the first set 6'4 against Jay Clarke.

[JAMES4578]

Bit of topsey turvey one from Kygrios,won 2 breakers-lost 4th 6-0 against Thompson before taking 5th 6-1. Harris has taken the first from Fed 6-3, had expected that to be a bit of a procession.

[Sallydaisy]

1st set to Lloyd Harris ... 6'3 v Feddykins

[Sallydaisy]

1st set to Lloyd Harris ... 6'3 v Feddykins
Federer 4-1 in the 2nd set.

[Sallydaisy]

:GBflag:
Cameron Norrie into R2 after a 3 sets, 6'2, 6'4 6'4, win over Istomin.

[Sallydaisy]

WEDNESDAY OOP:-

CENTRE COURT
Monica PUIG vs Karolina PLISKOVA
Kyle EDMUND vs Fernando VERDASCO
Novak DJOKOVIC vs Denis KUDLA

COURT 1
Heather WATSON vs Anett KONTAVEIT
Karen KHACHANOV vs Feliciano LOPEZ
Caroline WOZNIACKI vs Veronika KUDERMETOVA

COURT 2
Stan WAWRINKA vs Reilly OPELKA
Simona HALEP vs Mihaela BUZARNESCU
Kevin ANDERSON vs Janko TIPSAREVIC
Cori GAUFF vs Magdalena RYBARIKOVA

COURT 3
Elina SVITOLINA vs Margarita GASPARYAN
Robin HAASE vs Milos RAONIC
Felix AUGER-ALIASSIME vs Corentin MOUTET
Madison KEYS vs Polona HERCOG

[Sallydaisy]

Jay Clarke finally wins the 2nd set having had 5-2 but pegged back, eventually winning it 7'5.
1-1 between him and Rubin.

[Sallydaisy]

Cam Norrie will play Kei Nishikori in R2 (Thursday).
:shades:

[Sallydaisy]

Tsonga beats Tomic 6'2, 6'1, 6'4 ... in 57 minutes.
:whistle:

[Silverdee]

Sally, thanks for OOP for Wed, as Murray is not listed on either show court do you think this means he is playing his first match Thursday?

[Sallydaisy]

Sally, thanks for OOP for Wed, as Murray is not listed on either show court do you think this means he is playing his first match Thursday?
I have absolutely no idea. It could be Thursday, it could be Wednesday on an outside court.
And it might be a match not initially listed on any court until later on the day of play.
There are often 3 or 4 such matches, often doubles, that get allocated as spaces allow.

[Genbrit]

It says partial schedule, so I'm hoping they sneak some doubles in. I'm court 1 tomorrow and looking forward to it.

[exislander]

The website calls it a "partial schedule". I think court 1, 3 matches listed, two of them ladies matches could be an early finish unless they put a doubles there?

[Sallydaisy]

It says partial schedule, so I'm hoping they sneak some doubles in. I'm court 1 tomorrow and looking forward to it.
Yes, they usually issue the show court OOP a while ahead of the rest of the day although they must have a pretty good idea given the fair weather and minimal risk of any of todays' matches being held over!

Have a great time tomorrow!

[Sallydaisy]

Jay Clarke, with a break, serving at 5-4 for the 3rd set and a 2-1 lead.

[Sallydaisy]

Yay Jay! takes the 3rd set and has a 2-1 lead. Needs to consolidate in the 4th!

[Jan]

Come on Jay!!!!

[Sallydaisy]

It looks as though Andy won't play until Thursday

Eleanor Crooks‏ @EleanorcrooksPA (https://twitter.com/EleanorcrooksPA) 7m7 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/EleanorcrooksPA/status/1146078173714669569)
Murray mania will have to wait until Thursday. Ugo Humbert, one of Murray and Herbert's opponents, is in singles action tomorrow, hence the delay. Makes scheduling more difficult given the lopsided halves

[Sallydaisy]

Sugita breaks Nadal in the opening game; match is on Court 1 and BBC2.

[Sallydaisy]

Taylor Fritz a set up, 6'4, on Tomas Berdych.

[Mickey]

I will be on Court 1 on Thursday with themass15, so we might be lucky to see Andy playing as they said because of security Andy would play on Centre or Ct 1.
Getting really excited as this is my first visit to Wimbledon.

[Sallydaisy]

Ooooh! Jay breaks in the 4th set; serving at 3-2.

[Sallydaisy]

Berankis took the first set 7'6(0) off Shapovalov.

[Sallydaisy]

Jay serving for the match at 5-4 in the 4th ...
:GBflag:

[Sallydaisy]

:yahoo:
Jay wins!

:sofa:
He plays Roger Federer in R2!!!
That'll surely be on Centre Court on Thursday.

[patlowe]

Awesome Jay!! Well done. Fed next. Great experience for Jay. :clap::clap:

[Jan]

Brilliant!!!
:GBflag:

[Sallydaisy]

Taylor Fritz led Tom Berdych 6'4, 6'4, 5'0. Berdy managed to hold a game and then broke Fritz serving for the match. Berdych now serving at 2-5, Fritz trying to break him!

[Sallydaisy]

Fritz d Berdych: 6'4, 6'4, 6'3.

Tiafoe takes the first set 7'5 v Fognini.

Nadal leads Sugita 6'3, 3-0 ...

[Sallydaisy]

OOP for tomorrow now has all the Singles matches placed ... no doubles at all yet!
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule10.html

[Sallydaisy]

Paul Jubbs' match is up on livescore v J. Sousa.

[Sallydaisy]

DOUBLES INFORMATION COMING THROUGH ... NO ANDY SO FAR!

Christie/Swan v Minnen/van Uttvanck 11:00 C5
Grey/Silva v Cirstea/Voskoboeva 11:00 C6
Dart/Dunne v Chan/Chan 11:00 C8
Bains/Broady v Krejcikova/Siniakova 2nd C5
Norrie/Munar v Inglot/Krajicek 2nd C8
Salisbury/Ram v Albot/Jaziri 3rd C9
K Skupski/Smith v Clarke/Ward 3rd C15
Draper/Jubb v Cabal/Farah 3rd C11
Bambridge/O'Mara v Klaasen/Venus 4th C5

[Jane]

The OOP for tomorrow has been updated, showing plenty of doubles, but I don't either Jamie or Andy in the schedule. Hope they are not scheduled to play at the same time on Thursday!!!

[Sallydaisy]

BBC CHANNEL CHANGES ...
Serena Williams v Giulia Gatto-Monticone @BBCTwo (https://twitter.com/BBCTwo)
Rafael Nadal v Yuichi Sugita @BBCRedButton


Tennis on telly (https://twitter.com/BBCRedButton)�� (https://twitter.com/tennisontelly)����‏ @tennisontelly (https://twitter.com/tennisontelly) 4m4 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/tennisontelly/status/1146104252101738496)




If Jubb v Sousa turns up on the red button I'll let you know. I expect it will be on when a match currently being televised finishes.

[Sallydaisy]

Bit of a learning curve for Paul Jubb, loses the first set 0-6 to Sousa.

[Sallydaisy]

Berankis beats 29th seed Shapovalov by 7-6(0), 6-4, 6-3.

[Jane]

Getting irritated by somebody messing about with something reflecting sunlight onto the Jubb/Sousa match.

It has stopped now ;)

[cazza99]

Match thread set up for Andy's first round doubles.

http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?3918-WIMBLEDON-Doubles-R1-Andy-Herbert-vs-Copil-Humbert-Thursday-tbc

[patlowe]

Querrey puts out Thiem, disappointing but suppose not total surprise. A bit of a shock it was 6-0 in the 4th though (a lot going on today,caught some of it )

I really really wanted Domi to win this one. Very disappointed.

[patlowe]

Getting irritated by somebody messing about with something reflecting sunlight onto the Jubb/Sousa match.

It has stopped now ;)

Yes I noticed that too. Wondered what it was. Great to be able to watch Jubb. He put up a good fight. I was delighted for him when he managed to grab a set. He did well as I don't think he has ever gone beyond 3 sets in a match. Great experience for him.

[Stell]

For someone not ranked in the top 400, I thought Paul Jubb played extremely well.

[Speedy Hawk]

One should win cos their seeding but failed: Thiem, Zverev and Tsitsipas. Didn’t expect them lose but did expect possible tough match depending their opponent play.

[cazza99]

oop for Thursday - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule11.html

Andy/Herbert - court to be scheduled not before 5.30 pm.

CENTRE COURT - 1:00PM
1. Kei Nishikori v Cameron Norrie
2. Katerina Siniakova v Johanna Konta
3. Nick Kyrgios v Rafael Nadal

NO.1 COURT - 1:00PM
1. Kristina Mladenovic v Petra Kvitova
2. Jay Clarke v Roger Federer
3. Serena Williams v Kaja Juvan

NO.2 COURT - 11:00AM
1. Ashleigh Barty v Alison Van Uytvanck
2. Daniel Evans v Nikoloz Basilashvili
3. Lauren Davis v Angelique Kerber
4. Matteo Berrettini v Marcos Baghdatis

NO.3 COURT - 11:00AM
1. Sloane Stephens v Yafan Wang
2. Mikhail Kukushkin v John Isner
3. Marton Fucsovics v Fabio Fognini

COURT 12 - 11:00AM
1. Harriet Dart v Beatriz Haddad Maia
2. Marin Cilic v Joao Sousa
3. Amanda Anisimova v Magda Linette
4. Dominik Koepfer v Diego Schwartzman

COURT 18 - 11:00AM
1. Steve Johnson v Alex De Minaur
2. Kiki Bertens v Taylor Townsend
3. Kaia Kanepi v Belinda Bencic
4. Jamie Murray / Neal Skupski vIvan Dodig / Filip Polasek

COURT 4 - 11:00AM
1. Shuko Aoyama / Aleksandra Krunic vKaitlyn Christian / Dalila Jakupovic
2. Nadiia Kichenok / Abigail Spears vSofia Kenin / Andrea Petkovic
3. Roman Jebavy / Philipp Oswald vHugo Dellien / Guido Pella
4. Anastasia Potapova / Dayana Yastremska vJennifer Brady / Alison Riske

COURT 5 - 11:00AM
1. Madison Brengle / Erin Routliffe vXinyun Han / Oksana Kalashnikova
2. Marcus Daniell / Wesley Koolhof vRohan Bopanna / Pablo Cuevas
3. Alize Cornet / Petra Martic vVeronika Kudermetova / Jelena Ostapenko
4. Pablo Carreno Busta / Feliciano Lopez vCristian Garin / Nicolas Jarry

COURT 6 - 11:00AM
1. Roberto Carballes Baena / Lorenzo Sonego vFabrice Martin / Hugo Nys
2. Robin Haase / Frederik Nielsen vRomain Arneodo / Damir Dzumhur
3. Rebecca Peterson / Tamara Zidansek vMihaela Buzarnescu / Raluca Olaru
4. Su-Wei Hsieh / Barbora Strycova vMona Barthel / Xenia Knoll

COURT 7 - 11:00AM
1. Monica Puig / Shelby Rogers vMakoto Ninomiya / Renata Voracova
Not Before: 12:30pm
2. Henri Kontinen / John Peers vGerard Granollers / Marcel Granollers
3. Robert Lindstedt / Tim Puetz vDenis Kudla / Sam Querrey
4. Andreea Mitu / Pauline Parmentier vDanielle Collins / Bethanie Mattek-Sands

COURT 8 - 11:00AM
1. Nicolas Mahut / Edouard Roger-Vasselin v Liam Broady / Scott Clayton
2. Pablo Andujar / Fernando Verdasco v Evan Hoyt / Luke Johnson
3. Yingying Duan / Saisai Zheng vMagdalena Rybarikova / Stefanie Voegele
Not Before: 6:00pm4. Raquel Atawo / Lyudmyla Kichenok vMandy Minella / Heather Watson

COURT 10 - 11:00AM
1. Vitalia Diatchenko / Yulia Putintseva vAlicja Rosolska / Astra Sharma
2. Samantha Stosur / Shuai Zhang vMargarita Gasparyan / Alexandra Panova
3. Jean-Julien Rojer / Horia Tecau vMarco Cecchinato / Andreas Seppi
4. Ekaterina Alexandrova / Viktorija Golubic vAsia Muhammad / Taylor Townsend

COURT 11 - 11:00AM
1. Maria Sakkari / Ajla Tomljanovic vLucie Hradecka / Andreja Klepac
2. Lloyd Harris / Casper Ruud vMarcelo Arevalo / Miguel Angel Reyes-Varela
3. Laslo Djere / Janko Tipsarevic vSantiago Gonzalez / Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi

COURT 14 - 11:00AM
1. John Millman v Laslo Djere
2. Carla Suarez Navarro v Pauline Parmentier
3. Varvara Flink v Julia Goerges
4. Daniel Evans / Lloyd Glasspool vLeonardo Mayer / Joao Sousa

COURT 15 - 11:00AM
1. Jan-Lennard Struff v Taylor Fritz
2. Elise Mertens v Monica Niculescu
3. Lucas Pouille v Gregoire Barrere
4. Daria Kasatkina / Anett Kontaveit vIrina-Camelia Begu / Monica Niculescu

COURT 16 - 11:00AM
1. Sam Querrey v Andrey Rublev
2. Alison Riske v Ivana Jorovic
3. Gilles Simon v Tennys Sandgren

COURT 17 - 11:00AM
1. Tamara Zidansek v Qiang Wang
2. Laura Siegemund v Barbora Strycova
3. Ricardas Berankis v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga
4. Denys Molchanov / Igor Zelenay vBob Bryan / Mike Bryan

TO BE ARRANGED 1 - 11:00AM Not Before: 5:30pm
1. Marius Copil/Ugo Humbert v Pierre-Hugues Herbert / Andy Murray

[cazza99]

Mixed doubles draw - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/draws/2019_MX_draw.pdf

Andy/Serena playing Mies and Guerarchi. Please discuss on match thread - http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=11

Please discuss other mixed doubles in the doubles thread.

[Sallydaisy]

SHOW COURT OOP FOR Friday 5th July

CENTRE COURT
Kevin ANDERSON vs Guido PELLA
Simona HALEP vs Victoria AZARENKA
Polona HERCOG vs Cori GAUFF

COURT ONE
Su-Wei HSIEH vs Karolina PLISKOVA
Novak DJOKOVIC vs Hubert HURKACZ
Felix AUGER-ALIASSIME vs Ugo HUMBERT

COURT TWO
Caroline WOZNIACKI vs Shuai ZHANG
Karen KHACHANOV vs Roberto BAUTISTA AGUT
Daniil MEDVEDEV vs David GOFFIN

[Sallydaisy]

Rafa 6'3 first set after getting a very early break to go ahead. However, Kyrgios has just broken the Spaniard to lead 2-0 in the 2nd. I'm watching Serena but apparently Nick is being his usual self out there ...
;)

[Sallydaisy]

Bagdhatis 0-3 in the first set against Berretani[17].

Tennys Sandgren leads Gilles Simon 6'2, 6'3, 2-0 in the 3rd.

[patlowe]

Rafa 6'3 first set after getting a very early break to go ahead. However, Kyrgios has just broken the Spaniard to lead 2-0 in the 2nd. I'm watching Serena but apparently Nick is being his usual self out there ...
;)

I'm watching Nick. I think he's actually very focussed and playing cracking tennis. Behaving quite well (for him). I suppose the question is...for how long?! ;):whistle:

[JAMES4578]

In the first set Nick was ranting a bit about Nadal's timekeeing (probably partly due to being outplayed though Rafa does take too long at times),however more focused in 2nd playing some amazing tennis- good contest at the moment. However pretty poor game puts it back on serve, 3-4. However Kygrios regrouped with great returning and held to take the set 6-3.

[Rosalind]

Come on Rafa!!!

[JAMES4578]

well Nadal came out on top in breaker, had 5-2 lead and held on for 7-5-Nick may have uphill battle now. Rafa takes match on 4th set breaker 7-3, have not seen any of 4th set yet but looks like it was well contested, Kygrios though unable to do enough.

[Rosalind]

Just saw the post match interviews. Hope the lout is already on a plane out of town. Could write a lot more but keeping polite.

[RoastLamb]

Thoroughly disgusted by NK. So glad Rafa handed him his behind. Bye bye! Good riddance.

[suttontennis]

So when it comes down to it, Nick doesn't have the courage to play the match his way and instead resorts to playing the way he thinks he'll be judged least badly. Typical. And to try and injure a fellow professional, regardless of how much money or GS titles Rafa has, is just plain disrespectful.

[Rosalind]

So when it comes down to it, Nick doesn't have the courage to play the match his way and instead resorts to playing the way he thinks he'll be judged least badly. Typical. And to try and injure a fellow professional, regardless of how much money or GS titles Rafa has, is just plain disrespectful.

Didn't that quote just say it all "look at his bank account..." Jealousy or what! I don't watch tennis to see trailer trash like that ! There are so many decent players. I may have the odd whinge about the others, particularly when they seemed to beat Andy and I didn't want them too, but I have respect for so many of them and am entertained by their matches. All their characters make the tennis world go round but this idiot doesn't belong in it imo.

[patlowe]

Think or say what you like about Nick, but the Nick-Rafa match was a corker. The standard of tennis was amazing, and I'll guarantee that anyone with only a passing interest in tennis would have been hooked on that one. Apparently the viewing figures were around 3.7 million. That can't be bad for tennis! The needle between the 2 players made it the match it was. Remember how the McEnroe-Connors dislike of each other gave us such high quality matches? I think we need matches when there is needle between players. Spices things up! The match yesterday was a lot more than just the behaviour of Nick. Nadal's determination to win this match, fuelled by the needle, raised the level to new heights and you only had to look at his (Nadal's) excessive celebrations to see that. I like Nick and I'm not trying to defend him, some of his behaviour is reprehensible, but would you rather watch the fireworks this match produced or the match between 2 servebots like Raonic and Opelka? I really hope there will be more Nick-Rafa matches in the future. Sorry! Had to get that off my chest. By the way, I didn't watch that match after Andy came on court, though I was reluctant to leave it. The pull of Andy much too strong! But I did see a replay of the end of it. They walked off court together.

[themass15]

Singles OOP for tomorrow
https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule13.html

Surprising Court 2 has only one singles match

[Naomi]

What's the plan for doubles tomorrow do you know?

[themass15]

What's the plan for doubles tomorrow do you know?
Doubles schedule not released yet

[Naomi]

Doubles schedule not released yet

OK thanks I'll keep an eye out. I've never been keen to see the doubles schedule before. ;)

[lynne]

Bravo wee David Goffin, fantastic match, what a battle that was, so pleased he won....Bravo!!!:thumbup:

[anor]

Fantastic match indeed and so pleased that Daveed won. The standard of tennis was outstanding throughout and I hope David can regroup for Monday as he must be exhausted after that. I don't dislike Med but I noticed that although he was very gracious towards David at the net, he didn't shake hands with the umpire at the end and obviously was still seething.

[JAMES4578]

Will be a bit of a longer wait for Andy/serena as Gauff has come back from 5-2 down to take to a 3rd.

[Alis]

Andy and Pierre scheduled second on Court 2 tomorrow.

[Jane]

I have just noticed that the scoreboard at a boys' singles match shows the nationality of the players. This used to happen (a long time ago ) on all courts, but was stopped. I can't remember why or when, but it was a really helpful piece of info. Anybody got any ideas?

[cazza99]

oop for Monday - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

[Sallydaisy]

R16 MENS RESULTS IN SO FAR:-

[3] Nadal d Sousa 6'2, 6'2, 6'2
[21] Goffin d Verdasco 7'6, 2'6, 6'3, 6'4
[23] Bautista-Agut d Paire 6'3, 7'5, 6'2
Querrey d Sandgren 6'4, 6'7, 7'6, 7'6

Matches in progress
Djokovic leads 6'3, 6'2 v Humbert. starting the 3rd set
Raonic took the first set 6'3 v Pella

[JAMES4578]

Djokovic also through in straights taking the 3rd 6-3 , big guns more or less cruising through-Federer leading Berrettini 6-1, 3-1 after 31 minutes. Best match up was between Goffin and Verdasco, glad David came through!

[lovetennis]

Blimey this Fed match is even more boring than I thought it might be. 44 minutes in and it's looking all over

[lovetennis]

l've moved to the Raonic match. Which is saying something as normally I find him only marginally more entertaining than watching paint dry

[cazza99]

The oop for the ladies singles is out. No doubles on it yet.

https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule16.html

[Stell]

Andy and Serena's match should be announced later.

[Sallydaisy]

Blimey this Fed match is even more boring than I thought it might be. 44 minutes in and it's looking all over
Fed wins 6'1, 6'2, 6'2. In the Quarter-Final he'll play Nishikori who has just come through against Kukushkin 6'3, 3'6, 6'3, 6'4.

[Sallydaisy]

Pella has levelled the match v Raonic.
Raonic took the first 2 sets, lost 2. Into a 5th: 6'3, 6'4, 3'6, 6'7 and 3 all ...

[Sallydaisy]

Sirena 3rd on Centre Court tomorrow (if I've just heard right from Claire Balding)

[Sallydaisy]

Raonic serving to stay in the match at 5-6 in the 5th set.

[Sallydaisy]

Raonic holds serve for 6-6 in the 5th set.

[Hawkeye]

Could this be the first 12-12 tie break? We nearly had one earlier...

[Sallydaisy]

Matchpoint Pella ...
:shades:

[Sallydaisy]

Pella wins!

[Sallydaisy]

Pella[26] d Raonic[15] 3'6, 4'6, 6'3, 7'6, 8'6.

[Sallydaisy]

MENS QUARTER-FINALS, played on Wednesdy 10th July.

Djokovic-Goffin
Pella-Bautista Agut
Querrey-Nadal
Nishikori-Federer

[JAMES4578]

Pella certainly having good run, thought raonic would probably cpme through there and interesting quarter with Bautista Agut, hopefully Goffin can make some impression with Djokovic .

[RoastLamb]

Ugh soooooo annoyed about Milos. He should have won that in four sets. I cannot believe he let that slip away.

Looks like we're heading for a Djokovic-Federer final. YAWN!

The dubs are way more interesting. So enjoyed Team France beating Team USA despite Nico clearly being ill.

[Big Al]

Ugh soooooo annoyed about Milos. He should have won that in four sets. I cannot believe he let that slip away.

Looks like we're heading for a Djokovic-Federer final. YAWN!

The dubs are way more interesting. So enjoyed Team France beating Team USA despite Nico clearly being ill.

Pella is turning into quite the five set comeback king at Wimby, at least Cilic doesn't look quite so bad for losing last year.

[cazza99]

oop for Wednesday - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule17.html

only singles up at time of posting.

[lynne]

Come on Goffin!!!!!!

[lovetennis]

Torn over which match to watch. Starting with Djoko & Goffin but will see how it goes as the Pella v RBA match could be a cracker

[JAMES4578]

From a break down was all plain sailing for Djokovic as goes through 6-4,6-0,6-2. More competitive with Bautista Agut and Pella, pegged back after going 2 sets up but Roberto took it 6-3 in 4th. Federer lost the first to Nishikori 6-4, but has just gone break up in 2nd.

[patlowe]

I expect this is just me, but is anyone else finding this week a bit if an anti-climax after all the spills and thrills of the 1st week? It's all a bit more predictable now and matches are not so even. Seems to me it's pretty much down to one of the usual, or so called big three, to win. It's merely a question of which one? Delighted for RBA that he made it to the SF anyway.

[RoastLamb]

I expect this is just me, but is anyone else finding this week a bit if an anti-climax after all the spills and thrills of the 1st week? It's all a bit more predictable now and matches are not so even. Seems to me it's pretty much down to one of the usual, or so called big three, to win. It's merely a question of which one? Delighted for RBA that he made it to the SF anyway.

Yeah I feel the same way. And it looks - to me - like it'll be Serena/Djokovic as the champs yet again. YAWN!

[WimbledonWestie]

I expect this is just me, but is anyone else finding this week a bit if an anti-climax after all the spills and thrills of the 1st week? It's all a bit more predictable now and matches are not so even. Seems to me it's pretty much down to one of the usual, or so called big three, to win. It's merely a question of which one? Delighted for RBA that he made it to the SF anyway.

I often find that week 2 of slams, even when Andy contending. Love the first week when so many matches and so many possibilities. Always a story or 2 to follow and the outcomes are a bit less inevitable.

[cazza99]

oop for Thursday - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule18.html

[lovetennis]

I expect this is just me, but is anyone else finding this week a bit if an anti-climax after all the spills and thrills of the 1st week? It's all a bit more predictable now and matches are not so even. Seems to me it's pretty much down to one of the usual, or so called big three, to win. It's merely a question of which one? Delighted for RBA that he made it to the SF anyway.

I feel the same Pat. Today's men's matches have been very predictable (only the Pella v RBA wasn't a fairly obvious foregone conclusion). Kei made a good start against Fed but when Fed came back and won the 2nd set in double quick time the writing was on the wall. I'm rooting for Rafa now, it's been a long time since he won Wimby so would prefer him most out of the Big Three. On the women's side I would probably prefer Halep to win ( though I'm still mad at her for the way she stuck up for Nastase's horrid behaviour at the Fed Cup last year).
As last year it seems less exciting now there is no Andy to cheer, but at least we got to see him this year with some entertaining matches

[patlowe]

I would like Rafa to win too. I also think he is totally fired up and is all out to win, even more than ever. After all, does he not have a point to prove? (Thinking of his chagrin at being seeded #3). But to win he'll have to beat the other 2. Well, there are only 3 players out there according to the media, are there not?;) It would be some achievement to defeat both Fed and Djok, and if he did, he would fully deserve it. Here's hoping we get some belters of matches now.

[patlowe]

Lovely story about RBA who should be at his stag do in Ibiza now! :love: Instead, all his friends are flying in on Friday to cheer him on in his SF. He'll need it!

[WimbledonWestie]

Loved this story. Have a big soft spot for RBA after he was so respectful when beating Andy in Melbourne. And he's had a tough time losing his mum and caring for his dad

[WimbledonWestie]

I would like Rafa to win too. I also think he is totally fired up and is all out to win, even more than ever. After all, does he not have a point to prove? (Thinking of his chagrin at being seeded #3). But to win he'll have to beat the other 2. Well, there are only 3 players out there according to the media, are there not?;) It would be some achievement to defeat both Fed and Djok, and if he did, he would fully deserve it. Here's hoping we get some belters of matches now.
Yup. I'm all viva espana !

[cazza99]

oop for Friday - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

[themass15]

Had the treat of seeing Rafa close up practising today. Vamos Rafa!

[lovetennis]

Loved this story. Have a big soft spot for RBA after he was so respectful when beating Andy in Melbourne. And he's had a tough time losing his mum and caring for his dad

Me too. To be honest I'd probably be supporting anyone against Djoko but in RBA's case I can genuinely shout for him. Would love him to deliver a shock in the semi's. I have high hopes for today's matches after the last few days have been very so-so. Men's semis was always my favourite day of the tournament so I hope today lives up to expectations

[Linda]

If I had been going to Wimbledon today I would probably have worn my Spanish Davis Cup cheering gear.

[themass15]

It would be great if 2 Spaniards were in the final

[lovetennis]

Go RBA :strawberry:

[JAMES4578]

Some great play in 2nd from Bautista Agut even if Djokovic's level dropped, 1 set all. However think it would likely be a better final if Djokovic comes through to play either Nadal or Federer.

[lovetennis]

Djoko is reminding me in this match why I don't like him. His reaction to the crowd is one of "I deserve your love and you must give it to me", which ironically is an entirely unlovable attitude

[JAMES4578]

Whilst Dkjokovic took 3rd 6-3 still quite tough, had bp in long game at start of 4th but RBA holds on. Edit Novak eventuallly wore him down though once he got the break and only one game away from final now at 5-1. It certainly did began an entertaining contest,though first and fourth were fairly decisive.

[Sallydaisy]

Djokovic wins 6-2 4-6 6-4 6-2 v Bautista-Agut.

[lovetennis]

A good match especially the middle part of it.

[david1610]

Anybody wanting to comment on Rafa and Roger? Or is it on another thread.
Roger just went two sets to one up. C'mon tennis!

[JAMES4578]

Sure this thread, perhaps folk too engrossed in it. yes enjoying the drama, very tight in that first set but Fed's attack got him through the TB. Nadal got break early in 2nd and stormed ahead though Roger's level dipped, great 3rd-looked like Rafa might come back at one stage but Fed got job done. Think Nadal got another gear though amd wonder if Roger can sustain this performance.

[david1610]

Sure this thread, perhaps folk too engrossed in it. yes enjoying the drama, very tight in that first set but Fed's attack got him through the TB. Nadal got break early in 2nd and stormed ahead though Roger's level dipped, great 3rd-looked like Rafa might come back at one stage but Fed got job done. Think Nadal got another gear though amd wonder if Roger can sustain this performance.
Well three holds away now! Wonder if Rafa can break back.
If Roger were to win this and the final think it will be his 21 slam at his 21st Wimbledon!!!

[JAMES4578]

2 match points but resistance from Nadal as he asks serving out question, not over yet-think Fed will need strong game to take it here.

[lovetennis]

Great match as usual between these two. Sorry that Rafa could't get the win though.

[JAMES4578]

Some tension at the end but Nadal could not take advantage, overall though Federer was playing at a very high level and the better player today. A bit surprising he was getting the better of Rafa in some of the longer rallies. Very enjoyable contest,even if we did not get a 5th set.

[david1610]

Congratulations to Roger - he said he was exhausted at the end and I am not sure he would have done it if it had gone to five.

[patlowe]

Yes, sorry Rafa didn't get the win, but it was very engrossing all the same. Fed really was good. Now can he reproduce it on Sunday?

[RoastLamb]

I don't think Rafa played his A game today. Oh dear! And even tho' I dislike Djokovic I hope he wins on Sunday. Too bad for the Spaniards.

[Rosalind]

:crying:Roger really was excellent. If he beats Novak on Sunday I'm going to have to accept he's the GOAT.

[Alis]

I've never made any secret of the fact that I can't stand Roger even though I acknowledge that he is most certainly one of the greatest players of all time - as are Nadal and Djokovic, of course - but it would be truly amazing if two 37 year olds were to lift the trophies this weekend and for that reason I'll be cheering for Serena and Fed!

[WimbledonWestie]

Djoko is reminding me in this match why I don't like him. His reaction to the crowd is one of "I deserve your love and you must give it to me", which ironically is an entirely unlovable attitude

Exactly this!

[lovetennis]

Djoko is reminding me in this match why I don't like him. His reaction to the crowd is one of "I deserve your love and you must give it to me", which ironically is an entirely unlovable attitude

His attitude has become so obvious the commentators have started mentioning it. During the Fed-Nadal match Bouncy asked Boris about how Djoko felt about not being loved as much as the other two and perhaps surprisingly Boris admitted they had talked about it when he was coaching Djoko. He did claim Djoko doesn't care any more. Oh Boris, I think he does care, very much

[Speedy Hawk]

Being annoyed at crowd not going help him be more liked.

Looking forward see both final today and tomorrow. Both be interesting.

[RoastLamb]

Well I fear he's going to be EVEN more ticked off tomorrow coz Fed will be getting approx.: 99% of the crowd love. :lol:

[cazza99]

oop for Sunday - https://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule21.html

[cazza99]

Djokovic is the bookies favourite.

[lovetennis]

Djokovic is the bookies favourite.

I think Djoko will win too. I don't care which of them wins but interested to see the match.

[fah51]

Djokovic is the bookies favourite.

So was Rafa in the semi. I will be there cheering on Roger :)

[Rosalind]

Cheering for Novak which is a rare occurrence. Skill level from both has to be admired though. Amazing - well first set anyway.

Edited for second set - the only time I cheer for Djoker and he plays like a Muppet.

Mrs Federer looking like a loo roll holder.

[lovetennis]

Thought Djoko might run away with it after winning the TB but couldn't have been more wrong :wimbly: . I really have no preference over who wins but really enjoying the spectacle of it all. First decent men's final we've had since 2016 :)

[JAMES4578]

Exciting tennis in the 1st, though Federer lost the initiative in tht TB really. Did not expect Djokovic to fall away so much, 3rd should be competitive again though! Djokovic takes 2nd breaker 7-4 ,Fed could be said to be more impressive overall but not winning the key points. A few costly errors in the breakers.

[lovetennis]

Could we be going to a 5th set? Fed 3-2 with a break. Mirka will be shouting "allez Rogie" a lot in the next few minutes

[Rosalind]

It's a proper final. For a neutral-more-or-less, it's a relaxing, great fun way to spend an afternoon.

[JAMES4578]

Roger stepping up though given some help, Nole got one break back but we're into a 5th! A bit of drama, Djokovic broke for 4-2 but Fed breaks right back-a bit of tension.

[lovetennis]

Blimey I don't even care who wins and it's still a nailbiter :sofa: . Back on serve 4-3 to Djoko in the 5th

[Teresa]

I have just said a very, very rude word........

[patlowe]

And on we go!! Those poor women waiting for the doubles final!

[JAMES4578]

Fed looked like he had it but Djokovic find a way to break back , holds to 30 for 9-8 to put the pressure back on.

[Rosalind]

If Andy were one of these players, I'd be on a stretcher being carried out by medics...

[Jan]

What a match!

[exislander]

And on we go!! Those poor women waiting for the doubles final!

I feel sorry for them having to follow this!

[Rosalind]

this is up there with the best finals ever - (excluding Andy's) on we go.....

[lovetennis]

Is the first Wimby final to be decided by a TB about to happen?

[JAMES4578]

Dramatic, Fed missed break points but easily holds for 12 all so a breaker to decide it!

[lovetennis]

Yes we are. Brilliant match

[exislander]

Oh wow, that was some match!

[Rosalind]

Loved it. The reason I've loved tennis since 8 years old!

[cazza99]

Brilliant - the longest ever Wimbledon final.

[JAMES4578]

Certainly became amazing contest, in sense pity TB was not a bit closer (think right to have one in final set mind you) and that it ended on mishit! All credit to Djokovic, pity for Fed who was so close! All round though Tennis the Winner.

[lovetennis]

Loved it. The reason I've loved tennis since 8 years old!

Absolutely. My dear old Gran who got me into the game would have loved it. Amazing that the very first year the TB at 12-12 is introduced that it was part of the final

[patlowe]

Oh my! That turned out to be some match. It was a dogged scrap and had just about everything. It's a pity someone has to lose a match like that, but in the end I'm glad Djok was the winner cos he survived not only match points but the crowd which was pro Fed. I felt Djok was pretty much on his own out there and he was unusually quiet and subdued. No sarcastic gestures. Even Stefan was subdued! Well done both guys! Great match.:clap::clap::clap:

[Teresa]

I didn’t want either of them to win, given my dislike of them both, but Djokovic and his supporters are far, far less irritating to me than Feddykins and his tribe.

[Rosalind]

I didn’t want either of them to win, given my dislike of them both, but Djokovic and his supporters are far, far less irritating to me than Feddykins and his tribe.

I also think the Federer supporters are unbearable - not the quiet ones who appreciate his skill and grace but the loud ones screaming en mass. I also felt that Novak as a winner is far more pleasant. Hence my cheering on Novak. It was thoroughly enjoyable though.

[lovetennis]

Even at the end I didn't mind which one won. I was just glad to see a great final as they can sometimes be a let down after all the build up. All in all a very enjoyable Wimbledon. My highlights were

Andy being back in any capacity was just a joy, especially as he seemed to be have a ball (pardon the pun)
Two lovely days attending in person. Fantastic weather and nice to bump into some familiar Forum faces while I was there
Dan vs Sousa. Gutted Dan lost but a great match to enjoy and cheer on a Brit
Both singles finals a complete contrast in that one was so short and the other so long, but each in their own way was brilliant. I've even forgiven Halep for her remarks supporting Nasty a few years ago. She was a truly deserving champion and absolutely charming in the interviews. As for Djoko and Fed, well one of them had to win but thanks for giving us a true treat of a final

Back to work tomorrow. Only 50 weeks until next time :wimcry:

[themass15]

There is nothing like Wimbledon. Absolutely my favourite time of the year. Roll on 2020

[Rosalind]

:crying::crying::crying:Going to watch Today at Wimbledon because ....It's over and that's all there is left to watch

[Big Al]

That was some final, one of the best Ive ever seen .Disappointing for the loser, could have gone either way, but the performance of the tournament still belongs to Fed, beating Nadal the way he did .

[RosieBear]

What a fantastic couple of finals. Thoroughly enjoyed both. Simona was breathtaking from first point to last. Have always loved her play and it's so great to see someone who doesn't rely on power prevail. And what about Fed and Djoko - legends both and their final was an instant classic. I don't understand the level of criticism they both come in for on here. I find them stupendous to watch and their continued dominance suggests time is on Andy's side to come back and join them. Fantastic Wimbledon all round :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[themass15]

Best Wimbledon since 2016 when Andy won . I was lucky enough to be there on 7 occasions and on 3 of those I saw Andy - once in men's doubles and twice with Serena.

Can't believe it's all over for another year.

[RoastLamb]

Well that was quite THE match. So glad Djoko prevailed. Gotta give the man his dues because I cannot imagine ANY other player being able to break back Federer at such a crucial point after facing TWO champ. points from his opponent, then going on to WIN the whole thing. Blimey! I mean, that was UNREAL. So kudos to Djokovic. I liked how he took his son around with him afterwards. Sweet.

[lovetennis]

In reading some of the press reports of the men's final there were quite a few comments about the hostility of the crowd to Djokovic. On TV it probably wasn't quite so noticeable but even on the small screen I detected some of it. I'm not a fan of his (or Fed either)as most on here will know but I do find the attitude of some of the crowd very unedifying. You can still respect the skill and ability of a player even if you aren't keen on their on-court persona. I really dislike the thought of Djokovic being given the verbal aggro he apparently received. I don't recall this happening at all when he played Andy in the 2013 final - yes of course the Centre Court crowd was massively pro-Andy but I really don't remember it being anti-Djokovic and the there is a subtle distinction between the two things I think.

Which leaves me pondering what the difference between 2013 and 2019 was? Is it an indication of a general growing lack of respect for other people or was it because Djoko was playing Federer and the crowd just responded differently than they did in the match against Andy? Whichever it was, both are unpalatable options. Tennis has always been a sport that shows respect to opponents. Even in highly charged DC matches the opposing fans are respectful of each other and the opposing players.I hope this occasion was a one-off as it slightly taints what was otherwise a fantastic sporting occasion

[RoastLamb]

He was playing against Federer and let's be honest MANY people treat him like he's a god.

[Teresa]

The difference between Djokovic playing Andy, and playing Federer is that when he is playing Andy, the crowd is obsessed, but not to a deranged extent. When he is playing Federer on the other hand, he is not merely playing the perceived goat, but the perceived god. Even during the Olympic Final in 2012, there was still a goodly proportion of the audience that wanted Federer to win.

Those of us who support Andy, are still in contact with reality, those who support Federer are like members of a cult.

[Rosalind]

The difference between Djokovic playing Andy, and playing Federer is that when he is playing Andy, the crowd is obsessed, but not to a deranged extent. When he is playing Federer on the other hand, he is not merely playing the perceived goat, but the perceived god. Even during the Olympic Final in 2012, there was still a goodly proportion of the audience that wanted Federer to win.

Those of us who support Andy, are still in contact with reality, those who support Federer are like members of a cult.

Teresa, you so often voice what I think too! The "cult" mentality of the fans and the way they are nasty to the other player is probably the main reason I decided to root for Novak. Federer may well be the GOAT but the others are extremely close and there's no logic in their elevation of him to the extent it occurs. I've seen them in person be rude to the sweetest politest Kei fans and of course there was the time at the 02 when Sasha was reduced to tears when he won in the semi. [Incidentally, I was at the 2012 Olympics when Roger was scheduled to be on the court I was sitting on (watching the British women at the time) and his fans were arriving en masse ready to support in the next match. There were certainly a lot of them - many more than had been present for the Williams sisters for example whom I also saw that day. ] They are extremely annoying! I want Novak or Rafa to overtake Roger in the wins just for this very reason.

Did anyone watch Novak's post-match interview btw? In it he says "when they shout Roger, I hear Novak". He has trained himself to hear it he says! Pretty amazing.

[RoastLamb]

Also I think the Fed cult as you all call it is becoming rather threatened by Djokovic because they know he's probably going to be the GOAT when all is done and dusted. I certainly think Djokovic will become the GOAT. He has 6 years on Federer and he said he plans on playing until his late 30s too. I can see him winning the gold medal in singles next year - which is really all that's missing on his resume/cv. And if he does that and I think he will he will surpass Federer on that achievement as well.

[lovetennis]

Also I think the Fed cult as you all call it is becoming rather threatened by Djokovic because they know he's probably going to be the GOAT when all is done and dusted. I certainly think Djokovic will become the GOAT. He has 6 years on Federer and he said he plans on playing until his late 30s too. I can see him winning the gold medal in singles next year - which is really all that's missing on his resume/cv. And if he does that and I think he will he will surpass Federer on that achievement as well.

I think you're onto something there - Djoko is getting mighty close to Fed in the number of Grand Slams, and Fed is running out of time to build up his tally. How sad that people will be rude and disrespectful because of it.

[Alis]

I watched the match and, for possibly the first time in my life, I found myself supporting Fed. Not because I like him, nor because I dislike Djoko. I don't actually like either of them although I recognise that they are both amazing players and the match was a fantastic match. So, why was I supporting Fed? I find that difficult to analyse. Possibly because I thought he might retire if he won or possibly because I thought it would be awesome for a 37, nearly 38 year old, to win the title but mostly I think it was because, although I don't like Fed, I trust him to be straight but I have never been sure about Djoko. That may be very unfair of me but his use of the hyperbaric chamber and his defence of his countrymen involved in drugs bans leaves me very uneasy. It would also have been a fairytale for Fed to win his last Major at Wimbledon - he had so many chances and I don't think he will get that again. Having said that, I agree that Fed fans en masse are an absolute nightmare!

[Genbrit]

I watched the match and, for possibly the first time in my life, I found myself supporting Fed. Not because I like him, nor because I dislike Djoko. I don't actually like either of them although I recognise that they are both amazing players and the match was a fantastic match. So, why was I supporting Fed? I find that difficult to analyse. Possibly because I thought he might retire if he won or possibly because I thought it would be awesome for a 37, nearly 38 year old, to win the title but mostly I think it was because, although I don't like Fed, I trust him to be straight but I have never been sure about Djoko. That may be very unfair of me but his use of the hyperbaric chamber and his defence of his countrymen involved in drugs bans leaves me very uneasy. It would also have been a fairytale for Fed to win his last Major at Wimbledon - he had so many chances and I don't think he will get that again. Having said that, I agree that Fed fans en masse are an absolute nightmare!

Alis - I agree with all of this.

[RoastLamb]

I think you're onto something there - Djoko is getting mighty close to Fed in the number of Grand Slams, and Fed is running out of time to build up his tally. How sad that people will be rude and disrespectful because of it.

Gotta give Djoko massive kudos for his mental strength in that match. To come back from a break down to win? That takes serious guts. No one has ever been able to do that to Federer. Honestly, I think this is what impresses me the most about him. Not a fan of him myself but I have to give him respect when it's due.

[themass15]

And so do I. I don't normally support Fed but did on Sunday.

[pabbers]

I too was supporting Fed for once. I felt an uneven match was unfairly decided by basically 3 penalty shoot outs. The scoreline emphasises the quality and consistency of Fed's play compared to Djoko's. Not sure mental strength came into it.

[themass15]

Federer had several more points, as you say lost the match on the shoot outs.

[RoastLamb]

I too was supporting Fed for once. I felt an uneven match was unfairly decided by basically 3 penalty shoot outs. The scoreline emphasises the quality and consistency of Fed's play compared to Djoko's. Not sure mental strength came into it.

Of course it did. Are you kidding me? I've seen SO many players fold against Federer when it counted. So many. But not Djokovic. He could easily have lost yet he did not. He kept plugging away. Massive credit should go to him. Yes, I agree that Fed was WAY more consistent - I can't explain wth happened in sets 2 and 4 and also Fed is usually great at winning tiebreakers, so the fact Djokovic took THREE from him is, again, just incredible.

[pabbers]

No I'm not kidding. I think Fed understandably showed signs of nerves and Djoko was able to capitalise. From what I heard from the commies, Fed's record in tie breakers against Djoko is not great which probably added to the pressure. It was his to lose and he did.

[RosieBear]

Novak has been in Fed's head for a while. It's not just because of Fed's mps at "that" notorious US open final but feel it got worse after then. Remember when Fed played like a demon in the Wimbo semi in 2015 and blew poor Andy away in straights by serving 85% first serves and being an all round blitzing machine, but then came up against Novak in the final and his stats, inc his first serve % which is in his own hands, plummeted. Grrrr. I see it as 50-50 - would expect a player as composed as Fed to seal the deal, but then Novak has certainly earnt his fearsome reputation. This year's final will add another chapter to their dynamic. Maybe Fed will get the monkey off his back and get a significant win over Novak before he retires, maybe in Tokyo as they vie for the gold medal they both long for, but tend to think Novak is going to remain a bogeyman for Fed.

[RoastLamb]

No I'm not kidding. I think Fed understandably showed signs of nerves and Djoko was able to capitalise. From what I heard from the commies, Fed's record in tie breakers against Djoko is not great which probably added to the pressure. It was his to lose and he did.

But Fed was so steady. He didn't seem nervous to me at all. I actually think that Djokovic stepped up to the plate and then some - when he needed, i.e. the 3rd and final sets. Also, winning one tb might be a fluke but all THREE?

The fact that Djoko DID NOT lose his mettle was stunning - to me anyway. It's been almost a week and I'm still marvelling at it all, how he was able to come back from that crucial break down. AND WIN!

Also, re: your point about pressure on Federer. Well, I think the pressure on Djoko is really crazy too - he had the crowd against him and he desperately wants to beat Fed's record. And I think he'll do it too - as long as he stays healthy and fit.

[cazza99]

I wasn't strongly in favour of either winning. I just wanted a good exciting match and we got it.

[RoastLamb]

I wasn't strongly in favour of either winning. I just wanted a good exciting match and we got it.

True dat! I wasn't interested or excited to watch it but it did grip me in the end.