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hfwardhouse
28-11-2011, 11:01
I thought this had been started but couldn't find it .... we've just acquired a cat called Bubbles - she's an outside cat (for catching mice and other assorted beasties which she's apparently very good at). She was dropped off about 20 minutes ago, and I haven't seen her since :shocked: hope she comes back for food after she's explored a bit!
VamosVixs
28-11-2011, 17:09
You must post a piccie! :)
hfwardhouse
28-11-2011, 17:17
We'll have to find her first :rolling: ..... She did reappear close to the house this afternoon and Mr HFW managed to coax her down to have some food so at least she knows that we'll be feeding her. Minnie went out to see if she could find her but no sign - I'll put her food in the porch and leave the door open all evening and she can please herself if she comes in there - so long as she doesn't interfere with the bunny :shocked:
Hopefully she'll be there in the morning for her breakfast!
Speedy Hawk
28-11-2011, 17:43
Oh dear lol. Hope she pop up time to time.
Is her old owner nearby? I've always shut new cats in an outhouse for 2-3 weeks before letting them out.
hfwardhouse
28-11-2011, 18:23
Her old owner brought her here - but their home is about 3-4 miles away cross country. I think the fact she was still about this afternoon was encouraging - but if she takes off, there's not much we can do about it! I'd have shut her in somewhere but her old owner took her out of the cat box and put her down .... :rolleyes:
hfwardhouse
30-11-2011, 17:06
Update on Bubbles ..... she turned up for breakfast yesterday morning which was great. Left her munching her food in the porch while Barley bunny had his breakfast .... came back out to find her showing much more interest in the bunny than her food :shocked: .... so she's no longer permitted in the porch and the bunny has been so traumatised by the whole experience (and who knows when I've been out of the house maybe Bubbles has been peeking through the window at hime :eek:) that this morning when I shouted for Bubbles to come for her breakfast, he was thumping his foot sounding the alarm and she wasn't anywhere to be seen :rolling: :rolling: :laugh: :laugh:
Silly bunny!
RoastLamb
30-11-2011, 17:12
Oh poor wee bunny!!! Cats aren't interested in bunnies though, are they? Is it a really wee bunny? Maybe Bubbles is mistaking it for a unusually fat mouse with unusually big ears?
hfwardhouse
30-11-2011, 17:15
Oh she was very interested in him :shocked: :sofa: .... I'm sure if she got in there with him, she'd be delighted to have a munch :crying: .... he's not that wee, and he' put up a pretty good fight but I still think she'd win :sad:
So she's not allowed in the porch! Simples.
Cats aren't interested in bunnies? Ours has been known to catch a few wild ones in the summer if mice are scarce.
Cats aren't interested in bunnies? Ours has been known to catch a few wild ones in the summer if mice are scarce.oors very kindly deposited one in the spare room, he looked very pleased with himself
hfwardhouse
30-11-2011, 18:09
Cats aren't interested in bunnies? Ours has been known to catch a few wild ones in the summer if mice are scarce.
oors very kindly deposited one in the spare room, he looked very pleased with himself
:crying: :crying: :crying:
Right, that cat's gotta go! Anyone want a cat for 12 months?
You just need to make sure Barley's hutch is secure and you'll be fine. We used to have a guinea pig in an outside hutch and the cats could lie for hours watching him.
Either that or make sure you season him well and use the hutch for kindling.
RoastLamb
30-11-2011, 20:11
oors very kindly deposited one in the spare room, he looked very pleased with himself
Cats aren't interested in bunnies? Ours has been known to catch a few wild ones in the summer if mice are scarce.
Really? Gosh, I didn't know that. :yikes:
Cats will kill just about anything, out of sheer badness!
hfwardhouse
30-11-2011, 22:37
You just need to make sure Barley's hutch is secure and you'll be fine. We used to have a guinea pig in an outside hutch and the cats could lie for hours watching him.
Either that or make sure you season him well and use the hutch for kindling.
He's in an indoor hutch in the porch which is pretty secure but does have a wee door on the front that opens which if she set her mind to it, I reckon she'd be able to force open .... her biggest problem would be balancing on top of his cage but I don't think that would cause her too much difficulty .... like I say, she's banned from the porch .... and as it's plastic and metal we'd have a hard job using it for kindling :fingersear:
RoastLamb
30-11-2011, 23:38
Cats will kill just about anything, out of sheer badness!
Get the feeling you don't like them much? :rolling: My favourite pets are rabbits and guinea pigs.
We get cats lying in wait to catch bunnies all the time in my Dad's garden. Had to rescue an injured bunny earlier this year. But they tend to go for baby and young bunnies rather than the fully grown ones.
Get the feeling you don't like them much? :rolling: My favourite pets are rabbits and guinea pigs.Actually, no, given a choice I'd get a cat every time. I'm not blind to their faults though!
VamosVixs
01-12-2011, 17:32
Cats are mischevious little devils!!! :red devil:
RoastLamb
01-12-2011, 17:54
We get cats lying in wait to catch bunnies all the time in my Dad's garden. Had to rescue an injured bunny earlier this year. But they tend to go for baby and young bunnies rather than the fully grown ones.
That breaks my heart. I will never get a cat, ever.
hfwardhouse
01-12-2011, 19:23
Cat's are very mischievous. Mr HFW parked the car in one of the sheds overnight because it was blowing a gale and with lots of trees round about he was a bit concerned one might land on the car ..... he retrieved it this morning complete with new decorations of pussy cat paw prints all over the windscreen and bonnet :rolleyes: :red devil: :rolling:
Speedy Hawk
01-12-2011, 20:10
Lol! I like to get cat one day in future.
Sallydaisy
01-12-2011, 20:14
Cat's are very mischievous. Mr HFW parked the car in one of the sheds overnight because it was blowing a gale and with lots of trees round about he was a bit concerned one might land on the car ..... he retrieved it this morning complete with new decorations of pussy cat paw prints all over the windscreen and bonnet :rolleyes: :red devil: :rolling:
Reminds me of something similar earlier this year ... I'd gone to put rubbish in trash bins in my Mum's garage and made a couple of trips leaving the rear door propped open. Locked it up and headed off back to my own home. When I phoned her a couple of days later I got a right earful about how there were cat paw marks all over the car - not to mention the fright she got when a freaked out cat shot past her as soon as the door was opened!
:rolling:
I really like cats but can't have pets at the flats where I live ... and the dead parrot is still lodging with friends 'cos I've no room him and his castiron stand.
:sad:
Speedy Hawk
01-12-2011, 20:26
Lol Sally! :rolling: I wonder how long poor cat been trapped there?
hfwardhouse
01-12-2011, 20:28
:rolling: cat's are chancers - they'll nip indoors first opportunity they get .... that'll teach it ;) ... Bubbles did sneak into the house when I was trying to feed her the first morning - but as she's no longer permitted in the porch, she won't get in unless someone leaves the doors open ....
KnightOwl
01-12-2011, 21:04
That breaks my heart. I will never get a cat, ever.
That's unfortunately something you just learn to get used to with cats, and you have to remember it's just nature. I struggled with that aspect when Dave first suggested we get cats, but as we were both working then, a dog was not possible, so I said ok, and I wouldn't be without them now for anything!
I still tend to ask Dave to deal with the occasional mouse or bird we get presented with, though!
VamosVixs
01-12-2011, 21:09
I could never see myself without a cat, always had one in my life since I was 3 years old. Just love them.
hfwardhouse
01-12-2011, 21:59
That's unfortunately something you just learn to get used to with cats, and you have to remember it's just nature. I struggled with that aspect when Dave first suggested we get cats, but as we were both working then, a dog was not possible, so I said ok, and I wouldn't be without them now for anything!
I still tend to ask Dave to deal with the occasional mouse or bird we get presented with, though!
That's the bit I'm dreading cos Bubbles is apparently very generous and loves to share :shocked:
I'm allergic to cats unfortunately or we probably would've had a housecat ....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sP4NMoJcFd4
KnightOwl
02-12-2011, 17:29
That is extremely bizarre!
Speedy Hawk
02-12-2011, 18:09
That just VERY weird video Hawkeye!
hfwardhouse
02-12-2011, 19:36
:rolling:
I just want to see Bubbles .... she hasn't been for her food today :shocked: .... have been round all the neighbours and no one's seen her so I'm just hoping that she's found herself a large pheasant and is chomping her way through that ....
She'll turn up later looking like she was never away. That's what one of ours used to do.
She must have found food or she'd have been back. Cats are very independent.
hfwardhouse
02-12-2011, 20:00
I know, but when she's not my cat it's very alarming ;)
On the plus side, I got a guided tour of the only house next door I've not seen round yet :)
Sallydaisy
02-12-2011, 20:04
:rolling:
I just want to see Bubbles .... she hasn't been for her food today :shocked: .... have been round all the neighbours and no one's seen her so I'm just hoping that she's found herself a large pheasant and is chomping her way through that ....
Perhaps she's just getting stuck into - or tucking into - her job?
In which case she won't be going hungry!
http://www.h-e.si/images/stories/slike_poskusi/mucamis.gif
Mine can disappear for up to 4 days - don't know where he goes or what he does but he's always come back.
Alternatively, she may be heading back to her own house?
hfwardhouse
02-12-2011, 20:48
I hope it's not the latter cos she has some very busy roads and a railway line to negotiate between here and there :sofa:
RoastLamb
03-12-2011, 03:45
So we're dogsitting for a week. So far, so good. She's a cross between a bichon and a cocker spaniel and is adorable (name is Maddie). Doesn't bark much, likes to run after a tennis ball and seems to like the kids a lot. I get to take her for a walkie tomorrow morning. I hope I don't lose her. That happened once with my neighbour's yorkshire terrier, it ran away and was never seen again.
We have friends with a Bichon and our kids are desperate for us to get one. I have been really nice about it and told them that if they can find one that's trained to work sheep we will buy it.
Oh dear! Hope that Yorkie found a good home.
You'll need to keep all your tennis balls under lock and key! Dantie loves them and can always sniff them out.
Speedy Hawk
03-12-2011, 17:42
Good that it going well RL.
VamosVixs
03-12-2011, 17:44
The cat was funny last night when he came into the living room to find it all had changed!! He investigated every where, not sure if he likes it. :lol:
RoastLamb
03-12-2011, 17:49
We have friends with a Bichon and our kids are desperate for us to get one. I have been really nice about it and told them that if they can find one that's trained to work sheep we will buy it.
:lol:
So far so good. Took her out for a walk today and it went well. Don't like picking up the poo much but it has to be done. I love the way she "waves" goodbye when you leave and is still at the window barking when you come back.
She pretends to have been there looking for you all the time, but in reality she's been lying on your bed! :lol:
Speedy Hawk
03-12-2011, 18:59
Lol sweet! Dogs are loyal.
RoastLamb
03-12-2011, 21:28
She enjoyed her trip this afternoon to the Christmas tree farm. Had a good walkie and met a few other dogs all of whom seemed to like her. They were huge in comparison but that didn't stop her from going right up to them.
hfwardhouse
03-12-2011, 23:09
Bubbles has still not returned :crying: and now the world has turned white, poor wee beastie will be frozen .... I just hope she's found somewhere cosy, with plenty of food ....
patmoren
04-12-2011, 20:43
I am having to take my Collie up to my sons for Christmas in my little Jimny. He is a big collie and will be a bit cramped. At least my son took up my clothes and most of Tors' bits and pieces at the weekend. Should be a fun journey!!
hfwardhouse
04-12-2011, 21:54
Good luck with the trip Pat - hope Tor behaves!
It would appear that Bubbles has defected .... apparently a neighbour heard an announcement on the local radio station that a black and white cat had been found in Wardhouse .... hmm, I wonder who that is :angry: - little monkey that she is .... haven't been able to get hold of anyone there today so no idea who has her at the moment but I'll phone them tomorrow first thing and hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it and I can go and pick her up .... whether we persuade her to stay here is another matter ...
Sallydaisy
04-12-2011, 21:59
I think you'll have to find somewhere to shut her in for a few days ...
When we moved out here 23yrs ago we didn't let ours outside for a week; it gave her chance to 'scent' out the house and make it 'her' territory. She was a right scaredy so and so though; when we finally opened the back door she took one sniff of the autumn air (September) and headed back to the sofa.
RoastLamb
05-12-2011, 00:51
Getting a lot of exercise. Two walks today. Phew! She's pooped and so am I.
hfwardhouse
05-12-2011, 14:10
I think you'll have to find somewhere to shut her in for a few days ...
When we moved out here 23yrs ago we didn't let ours outside for a week; it gave her chance to 'scent' out the house and make it 'her' territory. She was a right scaredy so and so though; when we finally opened the back door she took one sniff of the autumn air (September) and headed back to the sofa.
That'd be ok if she was a house cat .... but she's meant to be an outside cat .... and I'm allergic so she's not allowed in .... but apparently she's spent the last 2 days being pampered at a neighbour's house ... having let herself in the catflap and devouring the lamb they'd left out for the dinner (although I have to say that was pretty daft as they've cat of their own :eek: .... anyways, I'm heading off to pick her up and we'll just have to see what happens .... But she ain't gonna be impressed at being outdoors again :rolleyes:
RoastLamb
05-12-2011, 14:12
Are you still supposed to take small dogs out for walkies if it's pouring outside???
hfwardhouse
05-12-2011, 14:13
:rolling:
That's the DOWNSIDE of having a dog!
RoastLamb
05-12-2011, 14:14
I take it that means yes. Won't they get soaked? Oh crap.
hfwardhouse
05-12-2011, 14:15
Yup and so will you. But you'll both dry ;) At least she won't want to stay outdoors too long ;)
RoastLamb
05-12-2011, 14:17
OK. I'll take her out. I don't mind getting wet coz I have a brolly but I don't want her getting mud and dirty rain all over the house. I opened the back door but she wouldn't go out by herself.
hfwardhouse
05-12-2011, 14:17
You need a doggy towel and dry her off as best you can close to the door so she doesn't trail it through the house ....
RoastLamb
05-12-2011, 15:21
I did just that and left her in the spa room for a bit. She does like to jump onto the sofas though.
Golden Lady
05-12-2011, 15:38
I did just that and left her in the spa room for a bit. She does like to jump onto the sofas though.
Sounds like you're doing a great job dog sitting RL. Are you enjoying it?
hfwardhouse
05-12-2011, 17:03
We don't let Rudi on the sofa when he comes to stay - sharp claws and leather don't mix well! I may put a throw on the sofa for him next time he comes though ;)
RoastLamb
05-12-2011, 18:10
Sounds like you're doing a great job dog sitting RL. Are you enjoying it?
Yes thanks. I took her for a second walk and she is so muddy. Oops. I do have a black blanket on the sofa where I let her sit.
How many treats are you supposed to give them a day? She looks at me all the time with yearning in her eyes. Sigh.
I assume that you've now found out that the smell of wet dog is disgusting :rolling: Don't keep giving her treats, she'll get fat.
patmoren
05-12-2011, 22:23
When Tor and I go walking in the rain (which is quite a lot of the time) he goes and sits by his towel when we get back waiting to be dried. Cheeky dog!! He is very reluctant to go out in the rain though, opened the door for him just now, out went his nose but not the rest of him.
supergran
06-12-2011, 00:28
Sensible Tor I say!!:clap:
RoastLamb
06-12-2011, 00:46
I assume that you've now found out that the smell of wet dog is disgusting :rolling: Don't keep giving her treats, she'll get fat.
We've only got her for a week so I think she'll be OK. I gave her some of my chips at dinner. Hope that's OK. And some shortbread I baked.
KnightOwl
06-12-2011, 01:11
I don't think I've ever heard of a dog eating chips or shortbread before!
Although, the dog we had when I was a kid liked lettuce & spaghetti, so I guess anything is possible :)
Sallydaisy
06-12-2011, 09:43
We've only got her for a week so I think she'll be OK. I gave her some of my chips at dinner. Hope that's OK. And some shortbread I baked.
If you get a dog of your own it might be an idea to get one that'll race off any excess food ... or a 'thin' breed that will like fine if fattened up!!!
My ex's cat liked fruit cake. We discovered this one Boxing Day morning when we found lots of bits of marzipan and white icing over the work top and a very round bellied moggy!
My moggy, many years ago, would just about kill for melon skin!
hfwardhouse
06-12-2011, 14:52
The latest on the Bubbles saga .... so I go to pick her up from her temporary lodging at lunchtime to find she's gone out .... she went out at this time yesterday and didn't come back till 10.30 pm .... this could run and run :rolling:
She's returning to her owner (if we ever get her back) - they've decided to take her back to the old house meantime and hopefully the new owners (they're exchanging contracts on Friday) will take over feeding her. Only problem I can see is that she likes people so may not want to stay there with the house empty!
Of course her temporary lodgings would like to keep her too .... looks like our responsibility is over :yahoo:
We've only got her for a week so I think she'll be OK. I gave her some of my chips at dinner. Hope that's OK. And some shortbread I baked.
Might want to be careful about giving the dog 'human' food - some people don't like it (my boss is an example of such a person)
RoastLamb
06-12-2011, 17:32
Might want to be careful about giving the dog 'human' food - some people don't like it (my boss is an example of such a person)
I asked her owner before he left and he said it was OK. I'm not giving her much though. And the kids have taken all but two of the doggy treats away from me. :lol:
hfwardhouse
06-12-2011, 17:38
:rolling: .... I hope they're not treating themselves though ;)
VamosVixs
06-12-2011, 18:02
My previous cat used to steal chips from my mum's plate! :rolling:
Also she liked cornflakes and cabbage! :shocked:
Our dog likes anything if she see us eating it. I really don't think she should be eating olives, as they're salty, but she does keep begging for them.
I asked her owner before he left and he said it was OK. I'm not giving her much though. And the kids have taken all but two of the doggy treats away from me. :lol:
That's ok then, I know my boss gets mad if people give her dog anything!
So are you going to get a dog now? :)
hfwardhouse
06-12-2011, 20:14
Bubbles is here :) .... she's in the kitchen, currently in her box, but has been roaming around. Just waiting for her to be collected .... erm did I say she suffers from severe flatulence? :shocked: :rolling:
KnightOwl
06-12-2011, 20:33
Our dog likes anything if she see us eating it. I really don't think she should be eating olives, as they're salty, but she does keep begging for them.
One of our cats used to go nuts if she saw us eating grapes, like she really wanted them too, but every time we relented and gave her one, she had one taste and spat it straight out! Strange creature :big grin:
hfwardhouse
06-12-2011, 20:47
Bubbles
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RoastLamb
06-12-2011, 20:53
:rolling: .... I hope they're not treating themselves though ;)
What to marrowbone, don't think so. :lol:
My previous cat used to steal chips from my mum's plate! :rolling:
Also she liked cornflakes and cabbage! :shocked:
Cornflakes and cabbage? Yucky. Chips, I get.
That's ok then, I know my boss gets mad if people give her dog anything!
So are you going to get a dog now? :)
We'll see. The hubby doesn't seem to mind her and that's the main thing. I like all the walking, good exercise for me. Except that I had a bit of trouble controlling the length of the leash and she nearly went under a van. She went into the compost bin and ate the garbage this afternoon. Really hope she doesn't get sick.
Oh, Dantie doesn't spit anything out. She gulps down the olives. She's very partial to raw mushrooms too. In fact she's very handy if you spill any food on the floor 'cos she's straight over to hoover it up. Or for eating anything we don't fancy. I bought some smoked salmon in the Co-Op one day, and it was disgusting, really fatty - it was like eating wax. But Dantie ate it all.
RoastLamb
06-12-2011, 23:41
Well, I hope Maddies's OK coz she seems very listless at the mo. Am a bit worried. I'm glad Dantie eats anything and has obviously survived.
KnightOwl
06-12-2011, 23:49
Well, I hope Maddies's OK coz she seems very listless at the mo. Am a bit worried. I'm glad Dantie eats anything and has obviously survived.
Oh dear - I hope it wasn't your shortbread ;)
I'm sure she'll be fine - just keep an eye on her...
She does sometimes puke on the carpet though :sad:
Actually, we've found out what causes that. It's bones. We used to let her have the big bones from a joint of meat, but every time it makes her sick. So she can't have them any more. :sad:
RoastLamb
07-12-2011, 00:37
Shortbread was yesterday and she was fine up until she ate out of the garbage after lunch today. If something happened to her I'd never forgive myself.
hfwardhouse
07-12-2011, 19:13
I'm sure she'll be fine - she's probably just missing her family ... Rudi does that when he's here .... he's happy as anything for a day or two then he goes all depressed .... he usually cheers up again if we take him for a walk or give him a treat!
RoastLamb
07-12-2011, 20:57
She's OK today. And we've hidden the compost pail.
Dogs will always get stuff out of the bin and eat it if they can. Dantie got into the bin recently and found pork chop bones. Of course she was sick again. :rolleyes:
RoastLamb
08-12-2011, 18:00
Gave her some of my omelette and potatoes from lunch. :shamed: I can't help it - you should see the way she looks at me, so inploringly. She's going home tomorrow. I will miss the walkies.
Gave her some of my omelette and potatoes from lunch. :shamed: I can't help it - you should see the way she looks at me, so inploringly. She's going home tomorrow. I will miss the walkies.
Trouble is they would keep eating all day. Sometimes you just have to refuse them :)
VamosVixs
08-12-2011, 18:13
Alright for some. Left my cat sleeping under my duvet at 7.30am and came home at 4.30pm and he will still there!!! Lazy so and so! :sleepy:
hfwardhouse
08-12-2011, 19:08
:rolling: :rolling: .... that's cats for you!
I've just taken Barley bunny into the living room in his cage - it's so windy out there and he's not happy in the porch cos the wind's howling through a gap in the door!
Speedy Hawk
09-12-2011, 17:08
Lol some funny stories! :rolling:
RL: Sounds like your doing well. Going to get dog?
hfwardhouse: Sounds like Bubbles cheeky cat!
You'll have to get a dog of your own, Fiona!
RoastLamb
09-12-2011, 18:43
Maddy just went home. She was so happy to be reunited with her real family. Sad. Will miss the walkies.
Alright for some. Left my cat sleeping under my duvet at 7.30am and came home at 4.30pm and he will still there!!! Lazy so and so! :sleepy:
What an accusation - I'm sure he'd been very busy in between :lol:
VamosVixs
10-12-2011, 16:52
What an accusation - I'm sure he'd been very busy in between :lol:
Yeah right, I'm pretty sure he hasn't, he is a lazy boy!!! ;)
supergran
17-11-2017, 13:42
Perhaps we need a thread devoted to dogs and their behaviour. Would make very amusing reading. Cats could be included also. Pictures of animals watching tennis on TV. Ok pet owners, over to you. I'd enjoy reading such a thread although do not have any pets now.
Sallydaisy
17-11-2017, 15:13
Perhaps we need a thread devoted to dogs and their behaviour. Would make very amusing reading. Cats could be included also. Pictures of animals watching tennis on TV. Ok pet owners, over to you. I'd enjoy reading such a thread although do not have any pets now.
:shades:
supergran
18-11-2017, 15:42
:lol: I'd even posted on here. Had completely forgotten about the thread must admit. I do have a weird tale to tell though. On the 15th September when supergramps was very poorly something strange happened. One of our neighbours has a grey cat, had it years and for all the years it won't come near me. I'll talk to it when it visits our garden but it just runs away. If it's at the front it completely ignores me and won't come near me. Around 10 0o'clock on Friday 15th was seeing Anna out to her car. The grey cat walked up the drive into the house. I was not only surprised but shocked. We both came back in as it was at the top of the stairs. I went up and found it in our bedroom. Gently I shooed it out and then it went down the stairs and into the room where Alan was where it went and lay under his bed. It took a while for me to quietly encourage it to leave. Eventually it came out, walked into the hall and out of the front door. Very strange.
RosieBear
30-11-2017, 09:16
This is so heartwarming...
'Woman who stayed with her violent partner for the sake of her beloved dog breaks down as she comes face-to-face with the stranger who took him in so she could finally leave'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5128379/Domestic-abuse-victim-thanks-stranger-took-care-dog.html
Did anyone else see the interview? It was so moving - Frank is an utter legend, helping them both start a new, happy life together. I would love to do fostering for the Freedom Project but my own dogs wouldn't be the most welcoming hosts :-/
.....it might suit someone who likes dogs, but doesn't neccesarily want the full time commitment of having their own. (maybe of interest, Mo? x)
It's quite astonishing how intuitive animals are. Your story is strange, SG, but it doesn't really surprise me. I'm sure your neighbour's cat was saying goodbye to Alan.
At the beginning of WWI my Mum's father had his wooden hulled fishing boat and crew requisitioned by the Ministry of War for mine sweeping duties. One evening their dog Flossie went down to the beach, entered the sea and was never seen again. A few days later the family got word that their Dad was posted missing, believed drowned, the presumption being that the boat had hit a mine.
Wow - that really is spooky, anor.
RosieBear
30-11-2017, 17:48
And sad :sad::sad::sad:
Ball dog
https://www.facebook.com/WoofWoofTV/videos/2241153559528092/UzpfSTEwMDAwMTU4ODQxMzQ0MDoyNDEwNjAzMjQ1NjY5MjY2/
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