Top 8 predictions for 2012- entry deadline 1st mens singles at the Australian Open

[Yorkie]

Year End Top 8 Predictions

Its that time of year to get your thinking hats on and predict the end of season top 8 - will Djoko hold off the challengers and have as amazing a year as 2011, will Rafa or Federer rise back to the top, will Andy prove all of us right and show the world he is capable of beating the best in 5 sets as well as 3, is there someone in the wings waiting to surpass even the rise Djoko had last year, will any of the big 4 fall out of favour and slip down out of the top 8 and who will make up the remaining spaces in that top 8 and in the process qualify for the 2012 WTF at the O2?

So all you have to do is predict the top 8 in the order you think they will finish. On top of this as a tie breaker you need to predict the total ranking points of the world number 1, world number 25 and our own Andy.

The scoring is you get
* 1 point for each person you correctly guess who ends in the top 8,
* a second point for that player if you have them positioned 1 place away from where they end up (eg you predict Andy as number 2 and he ends up as either number 1 or number 3 then you score 2 points for Andy) - you will also still score 1 point if the player you predicted in 8th spot ended up 9th despite missing out on the 1 point for that player not being in the top 8
* but you get the maximum 3 points for each player you predict in the right spot.

So the maximum points are 24 for getting all 8 in the top 8 and getting them all in the correct order.

If we end with a tie under this main scoring system then it will be the closest person to the correct total tie break score. in the unlikely event that the tie break is also tied then it will be the person predicting closest to Andy's ranking points, then the number 1's ranking points and if this has still not broken the tie break it will be a tied competition.

So the perfect prediction for 2011 would have been as follows

1 Djokovic 13,630
2 Nadal
3 Federer
4 Murray 7,380
5 Ferrer
6 Tsonga
7 Berdych
8 Fish
25 1,430pts
which would give your tiebreak total as 22,440

The deadline for entry is start of the first mens singles match of the Australian Open.

Champion of champions scoring

As well as the main end of year prediction we will have 7 other times during the year when the top 8 will be measured and scored for our overall champion of champions competition. The measuring points will be such that between each there is either a slam or 2 or more masters events to allow a reasonable potential for movement within the top 8. The scoring points will therefore be the rankings produced after Australian Open, Miami, Rome, French Open, Wimbledon, Cincinnati, US Open and the end of season rankings. As it is silly to use an end of season prediction where all positions are completly open but for example we already know Djokovic will still be word number 1 after the Australian Open you are allowed to enter different predictions as the season moves along. So if you wanted to you can predict up to 8 different top 8s plus tie breakers for each of the different scoring points through the season but to keep it manageable I would suggest that 3 or 4 different entries is probably sufficient to allow you to predict the movements over the season. If you do decide to give more than the 1 entry please be explicit as to which events each of your top 8s is to be used to score for (for example your first top 8 could be "up to and including Rome", your next "up to and including Wimbledon", and a third "up to including end of season")

Summary

So all you need to do to enter is make your prediction of the year end top 8 together with the ranking points for number 1, 25 and Andy with your entry submitted before the first mens singles match at the Australian Open

If you want to improve your chances for champion of champions then predict the top 8 and the tie breaker maybe 2, 3 or 4 (or if you really want 5, 6, 7 or even 8) times during the year again with entries submitted prior to the start of the Australian Open

Good luck on your predictions.

[Yorkie]

reserved post for scoring updates

[Yorkie]

reserved post for - just in case

[Sallydaisy]

Thanks for setting this up Yorkie!
:thumbup:

[Ace!]

Just in case a forget, i'll do this now. May change if i remember

After Australian Open, Miami, Rome
1 Nole - 13,630
2 Nadal -
3 Federer
4 Andy - 6,900
5 Tsonga
6 Ferrer
7 Berdych
8 Fish
World No. 25 - 1,500

After Miami, Rome
1 Nole - 12,400
2 Nadal -
3 Andy - 7,900
4 Federer
5 Tsonga
6 Ferrer
7 Berdych
8 Fish
World No. 25 - 1,500

After French Open
1 Nole - 12,202
2 Federer
3 Andy - 7,575
4 Nadal
5 Tsonga
6 Ferrer
7 Potty
8 Berdych
World No. 25 - 1,500

After Wimbledon, Cincinnati
1 Nole - 11,070
2 Andy - 8,740
3 Federer
4 Nadal
5 Tsonga
6 Ferrer
7 Potty
8 Berdych
World No. 25 - 1,500

US Open and the end of season rankings
1 Nole - 11,070
2 Andy - 8980
3 Nadal
4 Federer
5 Tsonga
6 Ferrer
7 Potty
8 Berdych
World No. 25 - 1,500

[pabbers]

I only did this once last year - may come back to it if I remember this year.

After Oz to end of Wimbly:
1. Nole
2. Rafa
3. Andy
4. Roger
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Del Potro
25. 1430

After US Open:
1. Andy 11,430
2. Nole
3. Fed
4. Rafa
5. Del Potro
6. Tsonga
7. Berdych
8. Dolgopolov
25. 1,420

Have only posted the tie breaking scores once - assume that's correct?

[karanga]

1 Rafa 11595
2 Novak
3 Andy 9325
4 Roger
5 Tsonga
6 Del Potro
7 Dolgopolov
8 Ferrer
25 1475

[DrewZiph]

1 Djokovic 12499
2 Nadal
3 Murray 6999
4 Federer
5 Tsonga
6 Del Potro
7 Ferrer
8 Berdych
25 1429

[VamosVixs]

1 Nole 11550
2 Rafa
3 Andy 8050
4 Federer
5 Del Potro
6 Ferrer
7 Tsonga
8 Berdych
25 1350

[Golden Lady]

1. Nole 12,160
2. Andy 10,780
3. Rafa
4. Fed
5. Tsonga
6. DelPo
7. Berdy
8. Ferrer
25. 1,510

[Linda]

I see that the people who have entered so far have only entered one prediction - so this will be used at each of the 7 points during the year as well as at the year end. But as Yorkie pointed out, no-one can overtake Nole at AO - so surely it's better to do different predictions for the different points in time! (Going off to think about my 8 predictions now . . . . )

[pabbers]

I see that the people who have entered so far have only entered one prediction - so this will be used at each of the 7 points during the year as well as at the year end. But as Yorkie pointed out, no-one can overtake Nole at AO - so surely it's better to do different predictions for the different points in time! (Going off to think about my 8 predictions now . . . . )

Yes but we can add predictions later can't we? Or am I having another one of my blonde moments?

[Linda]

We have to do them all before AO starts.

[-J-]

or else

[pabbers]

or else

Oh sphericals.........can't be bovvered, so I'll leave it at the one!

[-J-]

you don't have to do all 8, but by Evan just adding one extra to cover aus you increase your point scoring opportunity's

[pabbers]

you don't have to do all 8, but by Evan just adding one extra to cover aus you increase your point scoring opportunity's

Okey dokey - will do one or two more.

OK I've done one more and that's it.

[-J-]

Oh go on one more (for today)

[Linda]

OK here are my predictions:

After AO & after Miami (although of course I don't think the points will be the same, but I won't worry about the tiebreaker)

1. Nole 12830
2. Rafa
3. Andy 8180
4. Fed
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdy
8. Fish
25. 1450

After Rome and after RG

1. Nole 12030
2. Rafa
3. Andy 8970
4. Fed
5. Ferrer
6. Tsonga
7. Berdy
8. Fish
25. 1450

After Wimbledon

1. Rafa 11230
2. Nole
3. Andy 8970
4. Fed
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Del Potro
8. Berdy
25. 1450

After Cincinnati

1. Rafa 11825
2. Nole
3. Andy 9870
4. Fed
5. Tsonga
6. Del Potro
7. Ferrer
8. Monfils
25. 1450

After USO

1. Rafa 11825
2. Nole
3. Andy 9870
4. Tsonga
5. Fed
6. Del Potro
7. Ferrer
8. Monfils
25. 1450

Year End

1. Nole 12250
2. Rafa
3. Andy 10520
4. Del Potro
5. Tsonga
6. Fed
7. Ferrer
8. Monfils
25. 1450

[hfwardhouse]

I've decided to do predictions along the same lines as Linda - not copying her entirely obviously ;)

After AO & Miami

1. Nole 12860
2. Rafa
3. Andy 8380
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Tsonga
7. Berdych
8. Fish
25. 1450

After Rome & French Open

1. Nole 12000
2. Rafa
3. Andy 8800
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Tsonga
7. Del Potro
8. Almagro

After Wimbledon

1. Nole 12200
2. Rafa
3. Andy 9500
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro
7. Tsonga
8. Berdych
25. 1460

After Cincinnati

1. Nole 12500
2. Rafa
3. Andy 9800
4. Federer
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Tsonga
8. Raonic
25. 1450

After USO

1. Nole 12700
2. Andy 10150
3. Rafa
4. Federer
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Tsonga
8. Raonic
25. 1470

Year End

1. Nole 12860
2. Andy 10650
3. Rafa
4. Del Potro
5. Federer
6. Ferrer
7. Tsonga
8. Raonic
25. 1480

[jaysee]

I always do hopelessly in this, so I can't be bothered to do more than one!

1. Nole 11,000
2. Andy 10,000
3. Rafa
4. Fed
5. Del Potro
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Tomic
25. 1320

[DaveArneRiise]

1. Nole 12, 200
2. Andy 10,900
3. Rafa
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Del Potro
8. The Dog
25. 1,510

[MJAppleby]

1. Djokovic 11,400
2. Murray 10,800
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Del Potro
5. Tsonga
7. Ferrer
8. Berdych
25. 1,480

[Yorkie]

Here is my forecast of how the year will play out

After AO

1. Djokovic 12380
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray 8180
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Fish
25. 1500

After Miami

1. Djokovic 11000
2. Nadal
3. Murray 9000
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Fish
25. 1500

After Rome and RG

1. Djokovic 11000
2. Nadal
3. Murray 9500
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Tipsarevic
25. 1500

After Wimbledon and Cincinnati

1. Djokovic 11000
2. Murray 10000
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Tipsarevic
8. Berdych
25. 1500

After US Open and Year End

1. Djokovic 11000
2. Murray 10000
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Tsonga
6. Del Potro
7. Ferrer
8. Dolgopolov
25. 1500

[Yorkie]

Pabbers - you have gone to the trouble of doing 2 entries so please let me know which time points to use each of them as your directions are unclear. I would suggest the easiest thing is for me to use your first suggestion for the first 4 points to end of RG and your second for the last 4 but feel free to direct otherwise. Also tie break numbers on your first entry would be helpful as otherwise you will be bottom of the people on the same points. If you don't want to think about maybe just use the points as they were at the end of 2011

Hfwardhouse - you have missed off points for the person in 25th place on your second pick for post Rome and RG

We could do with quite a few more entries or there is a danger of not being enough entries for this to count for CofC (my thoughts nothing official)

[Katie]

Here's my year-end prediction:

1. Djokovic 12,820
2. Murray 10,080
3. Nadal
4. Del Potro
5. Federer
6. Tsonga
7. Ferrer
8. Berdych
25. 1,460

[Manaus]

After Aus Open up to before Wimbledon
1) Novak Djokovic 12,830
2) Rafael Nadal
3) Andy Murray 8180
4) Roger Federer
5) David Ferrer
6) Jo-Wilfred Tsonga
7) Tomas Berdych
8) Mardy Fish
25) 1430

After Wimbledon up to before US Open
1) Novak Djokovic 11,380
2) Rafael Nadal
3) Andy Murray 9260
4) Roger Federer
5) David Ferrer
6) Jo-Wilfred Tsonga
7) Tomas Berdych
8) Juan Martin Del Potro
25) 1520

After US Open up to Year end
1) Novak Djokovic 11,760
2) Andy Murray 9900
3) Rafael Nadal
4) Roger Federer
5) David Ferrer
6) Juan Martin Del Potro
7) Jo-Wilfred Tsonga
8) Tomas Berdych
25) 1485

[-J-]

After AO

1. Djokovic 12380
2. Nadal
3. Murray 8180
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Fish
25. 1550

After Miami

1. Djokovic 10,900
2. Murray 10,300
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Del p
25. 1550

After Rome and RG

1. Murray 11,800
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Del p
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Tsonga
25. 1550

After Wimbledon and Cincinnati

1. Murray 12,500
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Del p
5. Federer
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Dolgopolov
25. 1550
After US Open and Year End

1. Murray 14,000
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Del p
5. Federer
6. Ferrer
7. Dolgopolov
8. Raonic
25. 1550

[Lizzim]

After AO

1. Djokovic 12500
2. Nadal
3. Murray 8010
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Fish
25. 2000

After Miami

1. Djokovic 10,900
2. Nadal
3. Murray 9050
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Fish
25. 1900

After Rome and RG

1. Djokovic 11000
2. Murray 10000
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro
7. Berdych
8. Tsonga
25. 1800

After Wimbledon and Cincinnati

1. Murray 11,000
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro
7. Berdych
8. Roddick
25. 1750

After US Open and Year End

1. Murray 12,500
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Del Potro
7. Tsonga
8. Roddick
25. 1700

[pabbers]

Pabbers - you have gone to the trouble of doing 2 entries so please let me know which time points to use each of them as your directions are unclear. I would suggest the easiest thing is for me to use your first suggestion for the first 4 points to end of RG and your second for the last 4 but feel free to direct otherwise. Also tie break numbers on your first entry would be helpful as otherwise you will be bottom of the people on the same points. If you don't want to think about maybe just use the points as they were at the end of 2011

Hfwardhouse - you have missed off points for the person in 25th place on your second pick for post Rome and RG

We could do with quite a few more entries or there is a danger of not being enough entries for this to count for CofC (my thoughts nothing official)

Sorry Yorkie - not very good at complicated stuff with numbers in it! Yes - first is to end of RG and second for the last 4. EDIT to say - just been back and now I'm really confused - I said my second one was for after US open so by default the first one must be everything up until then. I've said it's till (including) Wimbly, so hopefully that does it?I'll edit to put a tiebreaker in now.

[JAMES4578]

1 Djokovic 11830
2 Nadal
3 Murray 9260
4 Federer
5 Tsonga
6 Berdych
7 Ferrer
8 Del Potro
25 1500

[Sallydaisy]

After AO:
1. Nole 13030
2. Rafa
3. Andy 8180
4. Fed
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdy
8. Fish
25. 1510

[eblunt]

Nole 12800
Andy 9000
Raf
Fed
ferrer
delpo
tsonga
raonic
25 1570

[AllyB]

After AO

1. Djokovic 12350
2. Nadal
3. Federer
4. Murray 8180
5. Tsonga
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Del Potro
25. 1630

After Miami

1. Djokovic 10,900
2. Murray 9360
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Tsonga
6. Berdych
7. Ferrer
8. Del Potro
25. 1630

After Rome and RG

1. Djokovic 10300
2. Murray 10250
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Tsonga
7. Berdych
8. Del Potro
25. 1630

After Wimbledon and Cincinnati

1. Murray 10,700
2. Djokovic
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Tsonga
6. Del Potro
7. Ferrer
8. Fish
25. 1630

After US Open and Year End

1. Murray 11,500
2. Djokovic
3. Federer
4. Nadal
5. Del Potro
6. Tsonga
7. Fish
8. Monfils
25. 1630

[Genbrit]

After AO

1. Djokovic 12,350
2. Nadal
3. Murray 8,180
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Berdych
8. Fish
25. 1,460

After Miami

1. Djokovic 11,750
2. Nadal
3. Murray 9,500
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Ferrer
7. Fish
8. Berdych
25. 1,460

After Rome and RG

1. Nadal 11,750
2. Djokovic
3. Murray 9,700
4. Federer
5. Ferrer
6. Tsonga
7. Berdych
8. Del Potro
25. 1,460

After Wimbledon and Cincinnati

1. Djokovic 11,750
2. Murray 10,100
3. Nadal
4. Federer
5. Tsonga
6. Del Potro
7. Ferrer
8. Berdych
25. 1,460

After US Open and Year End

1. Murray 12,000
2. Djokovic
3. Nadal
4. Del Potro
5. Federer
6. Tsonga
7. Ferrer
8. Dolgopolov
25. 1,460

[-J-]

Pabbers - you have gone to the trouble of doing 2 entries so please let me know which time points to use each of them as your directions are unclear. I would suggest the easiest thing is for me to use your first suggestion for the first 4 points to end of RG and your second for the last 4 but feel free to direct otherwise. Also tie break numbers on your first entry would be helpful as otherwise you will be bottom of the people on the same points. If you don't want to think about maybe just use the points as they were at the end of 2011

Hfwardhouse - you have missed off points for the person in 25th place on your second pick for post Rome and RG

We could do with quite a few more entries or there is a danger of not being enough entries for this to count for CofC (my thoughts nothing official)21 now :)

[cazza99]

Australian Open

Nole 12250
Rafa
Federer
Andy Murray 7380
Ferrer
Tsonga
Berdych
Del Potro


Miami

Nole 11610
Rafa
Federer
Andy Murray 9240
Tsonga
Ferrer
Berdych
Del Potro


Rome

Nole 11610
Rafa
Federer
Andy Murray 9240
Tsonga
Ferrer
Del Potro
Berdych

French Open

Nole 11610
Rafa
Federer
Andy Murray 9240
Ferrer
Tsonga
Del Potro
Berdych


Wimbledon

Nole 11610
Rafa
Andy Murray 9820
Federer
Ferrer
Tsonga
Del Potro
Berdych

Cincinnati

Nole 11610
Rafa
Andy Murray 9820
Federer
Ferrer
Tsonga
Del Potro
Berdych


US Open

Nole 11610
Rafa
Andy Murray 9820
Federer
Del Potro
Ferrer
Tsonga
Raonic

End of Year

Nole 11,000
Rafa
Andy Murray 9,800
Federer
Del Potro
Tsonga
Ferrer
Raonic

[Ace!]

I added in some tournaments

[Sallydaisy]

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