View Full Version : ATP TOUR FINAL 2021, 14-21 November. Turin, Italy.
Sallydaisy
16-10-2021, 12:58
The ATP Tour Final is for the 8 highest point earners in the ATP Calender Year.
Those in positions 9 and 10 usually become the 2 Alts.
Some players are not in contention, despite being high up the list, due to injury so Final positions depend on any withdrawals.
The 'Next Generation' event is in Milan, 9th - 13th November, for which some on this table automatically qualify and therefore might not participate in the Tour Final.
There are further events, and points on offer, until the end of the season
and which will also affect placings, as follows:-
W/C 18th Oct: Antwerp 250, Moscow 250
W/C 25th Oct: Vienna 500, St Petersburg 250
W/C 1st Nov: Paris Masters 1000
W/C 7th Nov: Stockholm 250
Based on actual points to date, up to and including the
Quarter-Finals of Indian Wells, these are the protagonists:-
Name
Points
OK
Notes
Nat
Age
1
Novak Djokovic
8370
/
Chasing a record-tying 6th title
SRB
34
2
Daniil Medvedev
6470
/
Hopes for YE #1 drop after Dimitrov loss
RUS
25
3
Stefanos Tsitsipas
5650
/
Falls to Basilashvili in I.W. QFs
GRE
23
4
Alexander Zverev
5095
/
Falls to Fritz in I.W. QFs
GER
24
5
Andrey Rublev
4165
Falls to Paul in Indian Wells R3
RUS
23
6
Matteo Berrettini
4000
Falls to Fritz in Indian Wells R3
ITA
25
7
Casper Ruud
3015
Falls to Schwartzman in I.W. R4
NOR
22
8
Rafael Nadal
2985
X
Out for season to rehab foot
ESP
35
9
Hubert Hurkacz
2955
Falls to Dimitrov in Indian Wells QFs
POL
24
10
Jannik Sinner
2595
Falls to Fritz in I.W. R4
ITA
20
11
Felix Auger-Aliassime
2330
Costly opening-round loss to ARV in I.W.
CAN
21
12
Cameron Norrie
2190
Will play Dimitrov in his first M1000 SF
GBR
26
13
Aslan Karatsev
2030
Long shot to qualify after loss to Hurkacz
RUS
28
14
Pablo Carreno Busta
1925
Falls to Khachanov in I.W. R3
ESP
30
15
Denis Shapovalov
1835
Turin hopes drop with loss to Karatsev
CAN
22
16
Diego Schwartzman
1705
Falls to Norrie in I.W. QFs
ARG
29
Sallydaisy
24-10-2021, 16:52
From Twitter (https://twitter.com/enricomariariva)- update on the Race to Turin!!!
6 players look to be certain to play:-
1. Djokovic SRB
2. Medvedev RUS
3. Tsitsipas GRE
4. Zverev GER
5. Rublev RUS
6. Berretini ITA
Race to Turin - final sprint
There are now 22 players (Garin and Fognini are out) still in contention for the last 2 available spots. Some with fairly decent odds (Ruud, Hurkacz, Sinner), some with just the maths needed to still keep them alive - and only 3 weeks to go.
Here are the 22 ..... in current order.
Ruud
Hurkacz
Norrie
Sinner
FAA
Karatsev
PCB
Basilashvili
Schwartzman
Shapovalov
RBA
Opelka
Harris
Sonego
Khachanov
Bublik
Dimitrov
Alcaraz
Fritz
Evans
de Minaur
Fucsovics
Sinner is now 50 points ahead of Cameron
https://www.nittoatpfinals.com/#
Can Andy do Cam a big favour tomorrow?
Sallydaisy
27-10-2021, 18:25
14 players left in the Race to Turin
Ruud
Hurkacz
Norrie
Sinner
FAA
Karatsev
PCB
Basilashvili
Schwartzman
Shapovalov
RBA
Opelka (OUT)
Harris (OUT)
Sonego
Khachanov (OUT)
Bublik (OUT)
Dimitrov (OUT)
Alcaraz
Fritz (OUT)
Evans (OUT)
de Minaur
Thanks to Enrico Maria Riva on Twitter for the stats.
:thumbup:
Paris Masters will decide it.
Sallydaisy
29-10-2021, 21:08
Just 6 left in contention for the last 2 places +/- 2 Alt spots for Turin.
Ruud
Hurkacz
Sinner
Norrie
FAA
Karatsev
Sinner is currently knocking 6 bells out of Ruud and that could alter the placings tonight and especially if Sinner beats Tiafoe and reaches the Vienna Final. Alcaraz can't make Turin, Zverev (his SF opponent) is already qualified.
https://live-tennis.eu/en/atp-race
Sallydaisy
03-11-2021, 21:51
Update ... 3 & 1/2 players left in the Race to Turin:
Ruud has 3195
Hurkacz 3045
Norrie 2955
1/2 ... Sinner unlikely now unless the above 3 lose in R16 and don't win any matches in Stockholm whilst Sinner wins that event.
It's complicated ...
:lol:
Auger-Aliassime (OUT)
Karatsev (OUT)
Carreno Busta (OUT)
Basilashvili (OUT)
Schwartzman (OUT)
Shapovalov (OUT)
Bautista Agut (OUT)
Sallydaisy
03-11-2021, 22:06
For information ... and bear in mind that in the ATP Race players only ADD points.
In the ATP rolling Rankings points go on but they also drop points - refer to the individual player profiles to see how their Rankings are made up. It's complicated.
ATP1000 Ranking Points per round reached ie. PARIS MASTERS
W: 1000, F: 600, SF: 360, QF: 180, R16: 90, R32: 45 (Seeds 1-8=10), R64: 10
ATP250 Ranking Points per round reached - 28 draw (top 4 seeds = Bye) STOCKHOLM
W: 250, F: 150, SF: 90, QF: 45, R16: 20 (Seeds 1-4: 0), R32: 0
If Sinner goes to Stockholm then he can't go to the Nextgen finals as they are both on next week.
Only the 1 spot left at the WTF as Casper Ruud is confirmed.
Sallydaisy
04-11-2021, 21:15
Looking very likely the 8th man will be Hurkacz with Norrie/Sinner as ALTs
The field is set!
https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/s960x960/251801788_4446613055425544_4505474543442994_n.jpg? _nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=a26aad&_nc_ohc=JpGDIW5iSEAAX_N62lH&_nc_ht=scontent.fman1-2.fna&oh=aa7f3d7f140c24ae92f5951a279f4891&oe=61AA9753
And here are the groups.
https://www.nittoatpfinals.com/-/media/images/news/2021/11/11/19/56/nitto-atp-finals-2021-groups.jpg?h=459&w=817&hash=8BA51D73D56830E749AA3A4619FE7D17
oop for Sunday - Red Group - https://www.atptour.com/en/scores/current/nitto-atp-finals/605/daily-schedule
oop for Monday - Green Group - https://www.atptour.com/en/scores/current/nitto-atp-finals/605/daily-schedule?day=2
Medvedev won his RR 6-7 6-3 6-4
themass15
14-11-2021, 16:53
Likely to be Medvedev v Djokovic in the final
Sallydaisy
16-11-2021, 06:49
It's likely that Sinner will replace Berretini.
exislander
16-11-2021, 17:39
Sinner is in.
JAMES4578
17-11-2021, 11:38
Sinner played very well last night and outplayed Hurkacz 6-2,6-2. A tight one with Medvedev and Zverev but the Russian came through in a 3rd set breaker.
Cameron Norrie is now scheduled to play Casper Ruud this evening. Best of luck, Cam. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Good for Cameron, but I hope that they don't need a third reserve this week as they won't have one.
suttontennis
17-11-2021, 13:06
Good for Cameron, but I hope that they don't need a third reserve this week as they won't have one.
I'll check flights, just in case. Although my racket needs a restring.
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 13:07
I'll check flights, just in case. Although my racket needs a restring.
:lol:
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 13:11
Cameron Norrie is now scheduled to play Casper Ruud this evening. Best of luck, Cam. :thumbup: :thumbup:
Stefanos Tsitsipas withdrew from the ATP Tour Finals with a right elbow injury
hence the need to call up Cam.
Ruud beat Norrie in their first ever encounter at the Final of the San Diego ATP250 on 3rd October with a winning scoreline of 6-0 6-2, which was his first ATP hardcourt title.
I arrived in Turin this morning, I can step in!
JAMES4578
17-11-2021, 13:26
At least Cameron gets a chance, should be more competitive with Ruud this time!
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 15:16
I arrived in Turin this morning, I can step in!
:yikes:
I arrived in Turin this morning, I can step in!
If you haven't had too many beers by then. ;)
If you haven't had too many beers by then. ;)
The beers might help!!!! :whistle::laugh:
banskogirl
17-11-2021, 19:10
I arrived in Turin this morning, I can step in!
Go Hawkeye!
themass15
17-11-2021, 19:49
Go Hawkeye!
Enjoy!
suttontennis
17-11-2021, 20:17
I arrived in Turin this morning, I can step in!
Fair enough. If a doubles team drops out tomorrow you'd better contact me.
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 20:30
Cam gets an early break, serving at 3-1 up.
Make that 4-1 in the 1st set.
JAMES4578
17-11-2021, 20:33
Great start , keep it going Cameron!
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 20:36
Cam breaks again! Now leads 5-1 and will serve for the 1st set.
First set to Cam 6-1 ....Well done :thumbup:
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 20:43
Ruud gets Ad but saved by Norrie.
Deuce.
Ad Cam after a bit of an argument settled by Hawkeye.
Cameron takes the 1st Set 6'1
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 20:47
Ruud has woken up ... holds 1st game, 2nd set.
Cam cannot afford to take his foot off the pedal ...
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 21:14
Ruud breaks; serving for the 2nd set at 5-3
One set all!! Come on Cam!!:thumbup::thumbup:
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 21:19
C'mon Cameron - it was just 2 poor points in one game that cost you that set.
Now regroup and play as you did in Set 1.
Fair to say that Ruud hung tough and hung on in and took his chance when it came.
JAMES4578
17-11-2021, 21:19
Unfortunately with Ruud stepping Cameron faltered somewhat and now into 3rd, hopefully regroups well- come on!
Could not stop the tide as broken at 2 all, however holds for 3-4- come on!
Ruud serving for the match.
Sallydaisy
17-11-2021, 22:06
Ruud wins 1-6, 6-3, 6-4. Cam has another game to play but it's very unlikely he'd now progress to the Semi's. The experience will be worth it's weight though ...
Ruud wins 1-6, 6-3, 6-4. Cam has another game to play but it's very unlikely he'd now progress to the Semi's. The experience will be worth it's weight though ...
I think he will get a reasonable amount of dosh too.
JAMES4578
18-11-2021, 23:16
It certainly became exciting between Medvedev and Sinner , after Daniil had a 1st set bagel two really competitive sets even if was somewhat academic with the Russian already through whilst the Italian could go no further. Two TB's but Medvedev took the final set breaker 10-8 after being a break down in the set at 2-4. Whilst would have liked Jannik to get the win he can take the positives in the fight back and think best match thus far!
oop for Friday - https://www.atptour.com/en/scores/current/nitto-atp-finals/605/daily-schedule
More brits playing than any other nation.
Casper Ruud comes from a set down to beat Rublev and advance to a semi against Medvedev.
JAMES4578
19-11-2021, 15:43
Ruud comes from behind again to end Rublev's chances 2-6,7-5,7-6. Ruud now has tougher task with Medvedev in semis, Djokovic takes on Zverev.
Cam and Novak warming up. Best of luck, Cam. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
oop for Saturday - https://www.atptour.com/en/scores/current/nitto-atp-finals/605/daily-schedule
Fairly one-sided affair this afternoon, Djokovic v. Zverev should be a bit more competitive.
themass15
20-11-2021, 18:08
Would love Sascha to come out on top!
JAMES4578
20-11-2021, 22:51
Looked as if it might go against him after the 2nd but Zverev strong in the 3rd as he takes it 7-6,4-6,6-3- well done! Will face Medvedev again in the final.
Sallydaisy
21-11-2021, 17:39
Zverev takes the Title 6'4, 6'4 over Medvedev - his 2nd ATP Year End Trophy!
:trophy:
Served bombs and Daniil couldn't find a way to break serve.
JAMES4578
22-11-2021, 11:02
I was expecting closer contest but Zverev was strong and Medvedev got not find way back. Sascha certainly turned the tide as Danilll had won their last 5 matches. Anyway thought the first year in Turin went pretty well.
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