WIMBLEDON 2012, R4: Andy "The Rain King" KO's Cilic 7'5, 6'2, 6'3

[MurrayAOne]

5 Live suggesting the fairest thing would be to move Gasquet, then all of the top half would get finished today.:wimcry:

Well as long as all the other players are finished and well rested that's the main thing eh?

[-J-]

5 Live suggesting the fairest thing would be to move Gasquet, then all of the top half would get finished today.:wimcry:dont see how it matters now top/bottom playing same days from here on in

[-J-]

Barry Flatman ‏@Barry_FlatmanST (https://twitter.com/#%21/Barry_FlatmanST) No more than rumours at the moment. But word has it the BBC's influence will see the Murray match shifted to Centre Court after Djoko

[traveller7]

That would be amazing cos at this rate Nole will be finished at 8pm.

[-J-]

ferrer del p match announced as cancelled , so .............

[ljs]

cmon BBC , influence away please !!!!!!!!

[cazza99]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis

@Barry_FlatmanST Just put that around a couple of BBC people here and told it's not the case at all.

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes

David Ferrer and JMDP cancelled for the night. Still no news of Andy v. Marin but highly unlikely it will be moved

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes

Had conversation with Richard Gasquet and Riccardo Piatti saying they ought to go and find out if they can be moved to CC. Off they went!

Neil you should be on Andy's side!!!!

[Bardot]

After this dreary passion killer of a Centre Court schedule, Wimbledon owe the BBC. I notice some sniping from journos (mainly foreign) on twitter.

[cazza99]

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes

Gasquet/Mayer in same section as The Fed, Djoko (leads VT 2 sets to love) and Youzhny and seriously disadvantaged if can't finish tonight

And so is the other half of the draw!!!!!!!!!

[-J-]

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes


And so is the other half of the draw!!!!!!!!!who started the tournament one day later already

[Bardot]

Harman really is a brown nosing creep! He doesn't see the bigger picture about providing entertainment to the masses.

[-J-]

Harman really is a brown nosing creep! He doesn't see the bigger picture about providing entertainment to the masses.:rolling:

[cazza99]

Mike Dickson ‏@Mike_Dickson_DM

Poor lack of communication here but looks like if anyone is to go on Centre Court tonight it's Gasquet, not Murray.

[WimbledonAce]

This will be a joke!

[Bardot]

Wimbledon ‏@Wimbledon

No further play on Centre Court tonight after Djokovic v Troicki. Play on Centre Court & No.1 Court will begin at 12pm on Tues

Unbelievable!

[-J-]

no this would be a joke
Alexandra Willis ‏@alex_willis (https://twitter.com/#%21/alex_willis) No more play on CC tonight. Play brought forward by an hour to 12 noon tomorrow. Good for everyone. #Wimbledon (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23Wimbledon)

[WimbledonAce]

What?! how is this good???

[-J-]

What?! how is this good???they are clueless buffoons, everyone has been raving about the electric atmosphere of the late night matches under the roof, here they have the chance to put on one but will close shop at 8 pm instead

[ljs]

so its official then , how stupid !!!!!

[Bardot]

Harman is really getting my goat tonight


Everyone has been sent home, including Andy Murray and Marin Cilic. Play to start at noon tomorrow, I have been told:doh:

Also it stopped raining 40 minutes ago according to Live@Wimbledon.

[traveller7]

Absolutely ridiculous, there is 3 more hours of play available on CC!

[-J-]

center court chanting bring on murray

[Mandiemoo]

Tut. Unimaginative monkeys at Wimbledon. Have they not seen the forecast for the rest of the week?

[Alis]

3 hours left of play and they're not using it - unbelievable!!

[Bardot]

Ferrer/Del Potro first on Centre Court tomorrow when more rain is forecast. I suppose that's fair! :confused:

[rondun]

3 hours left of play and they're not using it - unbelievable!!
Yes, but the grass can't take that every night.

[wriggles]

i seriously cant believe this...someone needs to have a serious talking to for this stupid error...

[JAMES4578]

With the forecast just seems a nonsensical decision and surely something should have been put on centre! Surely 8 pm is too early to finish play!

[-J-]

Christopher Clarey ‏@christophclarey (https://twitter.com/#%21/christophclarey) Order of play for No. 1 Court #Wimbledon (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23Wimbledon) on Tuesday: Cilic-Murray to finish, Radwanska-Kirilenko, Azarenka-Paszek

[Alis]

I don't buy 'the grass won't take it' - what if each match had gone the distance today - they would have had another 4 sets of tennis - plenty of time to finish one of the unfinished matches from the outside courts. Tomorrow they are starting on Centre and Court 1 at 12 - why didn't they do that today - Andy probably would have finished if he had had another hour. Is there anywhere on the Wimbledon site where we can register complaints?

[cazza99]

Greg Rusedski ‏@GregRusedski1

A real shame Murray wasn't on centre court, a little mistake from organiser. Need to give him every advantage possible.

[rondun]

The courts are a living breathing thing and need time to recover.
Especially with the Olympics coming up you jut can't keep hammering centre every night as much as I'd love to see it.
Centre already has more play than any other court.
I know here is a huge amount of effort going into maintaining the courts but am sure there is much more than we are aware.
The nature of the grass is the fundamental reason there is a 1 o'clock kick off on main courts, it's why there is no play on middle Sunday and why Wimbledon won't ask for night sessions.
A much as we might think it stupid, the decision is pretty logical.

[-J-]

I don't buy 'the grass won't take it' - what if each match had gone the distance today - they would have had another 4 sets of tennis - plenty of time to finish one of the unfinished matches from the outside courts. Tomorrow they are starting on Centre and Court 1 at 12 - why didn't they do that today - Andy probably would have finished if he had had another hour. Is there anywhere on the Wimbledon site where we can register complaints?would have loved to have heard the cc crowd when they heard there was no more play they where chanting we want murray as the beeb cut transmission

[Nina]

Okay Organizers another stupid decision

good night

[cazza99]

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser

And with Del Potro v Ferrer first up on Centre, we could have the situation, if it's raining, where they finish b4 Murray resumes #Wimbledon

[traveller7]

whats the difference between Nole taking the match to 5 sets and andy playing another 2 sets?! Am I missing something here - there is no difference in the effect on the grass, we arent asking them to use the court til 11pm every night. Its a stupid decision end of.

[wriggles]

Greg Rusedski ‏@GregRusedski1

hooray greg talking some sense for once. I hope the schedule man is happy that he has hampered our home favourite, however i do think andy will come through it fine despite someones stupidity.

[rondun]

whats the difference between Nole taking the match to 5 sets and andy playing another 2 sets?! Am I missing something here - there is no difference in the effect on the grass, we arent asking them to use the court til 11pm every night. Its a stupid decision end of.Because they have a choice.
And their choice is likely to always wait until the next day.

[david1610]

oh yeah for sure they will show Fish , never in doubt
Specially if there is a bit of water around....

[WimbledonAce]

At least del po and ferrer get their centre court moment, should have been there today. However,Andy is now even more disadvantaged if it rains!

[wriggles]

whats the difference between Nole taking the match to 5 sets and andy playing another 2 sets?! Am I missing something here - there is no difference in the effect on the grass, we arent asking them to use the court til 11pm every night. Its a stupid decision end of.

agreed.

[Genbrit]

One thing's for sure - When he wins this, no one will be able to say it was easy. :wimbly:

[-J-]

Greg Rusedski ‏@GregRusedski1must just be me then that reads that as andy NEEDS the help?

[Mandiemoo]

The forecast tomorrow is light rain from 01:00 to 23:00. I wonder if we'll get any play at all. Then we're faced with Andy having to play 2 matches in the same day. Oh & its showers on Wednesday too.

On whether Andy needs help, well he certainly doesnt need hindering & that what it could end up being.

[cazza99]

Piers Newbery ‏@piersnewbery

"Why in the world wasn't Murray on Centre?" says McEnroe on BBC2. Life was simpler before the roof. Maybe they should give it to the US Open

[Bardot]

John McEnroe asking the question "Why wasn't Andy scheduled on Centre Court?" and Inverdale answering that with the Karlovic accusations, Wimbledon don't want to be seen favouring Murray. Who cares!

Of course now they've made a rod for their own back with possiblity of Andy having to play best of 5 sets on 3 consecutive days. I hope someone from the scheduling committee (Tim Henman is a member) is made to squirm on the BBC tomorrow.

As for the grass, it's hardly had a pounding today.

[cazza99]

thetennisspace ‏@thetennisspace

Krajicek and Ivanisevic have told The Tennis Space it was right to put Murray on Ct1. Ivanisevic: "It was his turn to play there."

[ljs]

Not every1 likes him but John Mac knows his stuff , and talks common sense !!

Ivanisevic doesnt like Andy , so not surprising he would think that

[wriggles]

John McEnroe asking the question "Why wasn't Andy scheduled on Centre Court?" and Inverdale answering that with the Karlovic accusations, Wimbledon don't want to be seen favouring Murray. Who cares!.

exactly! why do they feel the need to constantly prove their fairness...its hardly cheating!!..I hope Karlovic is watching!!!

[RoastLamb]

On ESPN Mac was asked who'd he put on CC after Djoko and he chose Andy.

[wriggles]

i lot of unhappy twitterers hopefully wimbledon will get some sort of message from that!

[ljs]

soooo Ferrer / Delpo 1st up 2morrow on centre while Andy is scheduled 1st on court 1 , and by the look of the weather forecast his next round opponent will be safely thru while he may have to wait & finish this match Wednesday :furious:

[RoastLamb]

If Andy doesn't get his match finished on court 1 tomorrow I expect they'll defo put him on CC after the ladies are done.

[cazza99]

If Andy doesn't get his match finished on court 1 tomorrow I expect they'll defo put him on CC after the ladies are done.

I think they have only put one men's singles and 2 ladies singles on Centre, so hopefully there will be time for another match.

[cazza99]

Beyond The Baseline ‏@SI_BTBaseline

Re moving match to CC, Djokovic was told "it would be too much trouble w/ organizing the crowds going out from CC & the new crowd coming in"

Why not have the same crowd :confused:

[DaveArneRiise]

Only in Britain would we hinder our number 1 player's chances. Ashamed to be British.


Beyond The Baseline ‏@SI_BTBaseline


Why not have the same crowd :confused:

All sounds very wishy washy doesn't it? Pathetic reasoning.

[-J-]

I think they have only put one men's singles and 2 ladies singles on Centre, so hopefully there will be time for another match.with 2 to choose from, my money is on gasquet

[ljs]

no doubt J

[rondun]

Why not have the same crowd :confused:because there would be a riot...
... or maybe a very polite protest.

[supergran]

I think they have only put one men's singles and 2 ladies singles on Centre, so hopefully there will be time for another match. Like they did today?:confused::angry:

[DaveArneRiise]

This would never have happened to Henman.

[-J-]

because there would be a riot...
... or maybe a very polite protest.don't get that? if i was there today i would rather the match got switched to CC then i could watch it on Murray mound, rather than get moved to another day

[-J-]

this would never have happened to henman.
aeltc

[Linda]

They don't move the crowd to keep them with a match. Your ticket says that you see whatever play there happens to be on the court you have the ticket for. I was once on Court 1 and it got quite late, it was dark and spitting with rain and windy, and there was thunder and lightning, and they announced that they might switch the end of the match to Centre - well, if they had I'm sure there would have been a riot because the crowd were really enjoying the match. As it was, the players thankfully said that they wanted to carry on to the end on Court 1 and they did.

[Fina]

Really hoping there'll be a window in the rain tomorrow; that Andy picks up where he left off today coming out fired up from the first ball; and that he just gets the match over asap. [Everything's crossed]
Good Luck, Andy. With you all the way. x

[rondun]

don't get that? if i was there today i would rather the match got switched to CC then i could watch it on Murray mound, rather than get moved to another dayno, but remember RG - or was it the Aussie open?
If I had tickets for Andy and they moved the match, I'd want into centre to see it finish

[MurrayAOne]

don't get that? if i was there today i would rather the match got switched to CC then i could watch it on Murray mound, rather than get moved to another day

So would I. Would rather see Andy be given the chance to go on centre and have the certainty of finishing.

[DaveArneRiise]

aeltc

?

[millypops]

I think they have only put one men's singles and 2 ladies singles on Centre, so hopefully there will be time for another match.
I have just got back from Wimbledon, we had Court 1 tickets as you can imagine bitterly dissapointed, but I would like to make a point here ,the Novak match finished at about7.45ish they could have easily put another match on Centre tonight they were still selling returns and people were running on to Centre when the Djokovic match was practically over,I got the impression nobody quite knew what was going on.
As a massive Andy fan I would have been dissapointed not to have seen the conclusion of the match, but I would like to have gone to bed knowing Andy had won the match, I appreciate you are suppose to stay on the same Court for the duration of your match, but this is a British Tournament and we have a big contender for the title.
Also with the weather forecast so bad for Monday and Tuesday why didn't play start at 12 today, and another point when the girls went off, all the other outside courts were playing they should have made sure the girls came back and started play sooner.
When I was parking my car one of my Neighbours said "I know where you have been" and he reminded me that VW won in a Jubilee year so is that a good omen????

[supergran]

So would I. It would have been disappointing but would still want Andy to finish his match...for his sake.

[MurrayAOne]

This would never have happened to Henman.

I don't recall him being given any advantages either? They've always been wary of it.

[rouges]

Pompous lot aren't they. Love to put laxatives in his Pimms :rolling:
I would gladly help you. Appalling and disgraceful to have treated our best player like this, the LTA does not think Andy can win so they are favouring Federer and Novak. do you think if this tournament was in Serbia or switzerland they would put Andy on a court with a roof and leave Roger and Novak outside to play everyday until the finals. We shoud all complain bitterly about this shameful treatment. write a letter and we will all sign it and post in the the LTA website. I totally agree with the person before who said "ashamed to be British"

[jaysee]

So, given that it's forecast to rain all day tomorrow, Andy is expected to play R4 on Wednesday, QF on Thursday, and SF on Friday, and on Sunday still beat Fed or Nole who play a gentle three-setter on Wednesday before their semi on Friday? I don't think Fred Perry's getting very worried about his record this year!:grrr:

[dewster99]

this is an absolutely shocking decision! Andy was in the driving seat and all over Cilic it would've been over in another 45-60mins but now he'll be starting cold again and faces the possibility of not even getting on court. As for not being able to change court once the match has started, why the **** not? It's not as though anyone gains an advantage as both players are having to adapt and are playing the same conditions. The draw is opening up now too as Ferrer v Del Po could easily go long and with Fish up against Tsonga if Andy got to the Semis he could be playing Fish Baker or Kohli which let's face it sounds like a round 2/3 match up. I was thinknig earlier when I left that Andy would breeze through and Ferrer and Del Po would be the ones facing 2 matches in 2 days which would've been great for Andy. I fear that this is Andy's rain affeected year like Tim's in 2001. This match which could've been very straight forward could now go 4/5 sets and then having to play the next day too? Wimbledon organisers have ruined Andy's chances simple as and if he gets through it and makes the semis then he deserves the title more than anyone else out there

[rouges]

I just sent an email to the Wimbledon site and told them how appalled I'm and got an automated reply, so obviously it will be read, I urge you to do the same so they may have a change of heart if they've got one.

[jaysee]

I've sent an e-mail via the Contact us page on the Wimbledon website: http://contact.wimbledon.com/

[david1610]

Andy cannot receive favourable treatment. However, he cannot receive unfavourable treatment. Nor can the other men, for that matter.
Factually:
1. There are five round of 16 matches still live, three having completed one set and somewhere in their second sets.
2. All the women’s round of 16 matches have been completed.
3. There will be tennis on centre court tomorrow. Given the concerns over letting the grass breathe, let’s say there can be six, seven hours of tennis there.
4. The organisers seem to be hoping that there will be a let off from the rain enough to try and get the men’s matches done. The five matches are scheduled first on five different courts, including one on centre court.
5. There are two women’s QF matches scheduled on Centre Court. Presuming these three matches get completed, if it rains the whole day tomorrow, then tomorrow night there will be four men’s round of 16 matches still not completed, three of which will go into a third day to be completed. There will be two QF ladies’ matches still to be played (on OPPOSITE sides of the draw, note).
6. My personal choice would be to prioritise getting the men’s round of 16 over first and if necessary have a “Super Wednesday” when all QFs are played. There is a very big different between playing potentially two five set matches on consecutive days, and two three set matches – let’s face it, men and women play best of three on consecutive days in many tournaments, including the last few rounds of Master’s. I know Wimbledon likes to mix um gentlemen’s and ladies’ singles, but if they scheduled the four ladies QFs at the same time (i.e. first or second scheduled) on outside courts that would assure parity.
7. Then you could at least make sure one side of the men’s QF draw got completed on centre court or, the three matches which had started got completed – there are arguments on each side here. Personally I think it is better to ensure the four quarter finalists on one side of the draw are decided then even though the semi finalists might get an extra day, it would be no worse than the extra day that happens at USO. Not ideal, but we are looking at the least worse scenario here.
8. But as it is, there could be men’s last 16 matches and women’s QF matches to complete on both sides of the draw – a much bigger mess!
PS I emailed this because it is trying to appeal to reason on behalf of ALL the men, not just Andy!

[Alis]

I would gladly help you. Appalling and disgraceful to have treated our best player like this, the LTA does not think Andy can win so they are favouring Federer and Novak. do you think if this tournament was in Serbia or switzerland they would put Andy on a court with a roof and leave Roger and Novak outside to play everyday until the finals. We shoud all complain bitterly about this shameful treatment. write a letter and we will all sign it and post in the the LTA website. I totally agree with the person before who said "ashamed to be British"

There is a place for 'Feed Back' on the Wimbledon site - it takes a bit of finding but it might just be worth us all letting them know how we feel. I've just sent them a diatribe - probably won't help but it made me feel better!

[supergran]

I have sent one also.

[xenon21]

One word... Disgrace! To put it into context with a tweet from stu Fraser. When was the last time hewitt was off centre court in Aussie open? To potentially have hopefully Andy's quarters opponents finish earlier than Andy if it rains loads because Andy is on court one is an awful decision! Are they trying to reduce Andy's chance...

Just so annoyed!

[Helen40]

Emailed them with this too.
I'm appalled, firstly that you did not put Andy Murray on centre court in the first place in him home slam, and that secondly you did not put him and potentially others on centre court to finish their matches.
Have the LTA got no faith in our man, or is this political correctness gone mad. This would NOT happen at a Serbian or Swiss event to their man.

Let's see whether they reply..

[david1610]

It may not seem like comfort, but it could be worse. If you had given me no play today or Andy interrupted a set up, a break up and 40-0 on his serve, I would have taken it.

[xenon21]

Yup, the silver lining is that at least Andy is a set and break up! Could be worse! Hope Andy comes out firing!

Is the weather better or worse than it was yesterday?

[RFS]

I was there yesterday and you know ... I do wonder whether the crowd on the smaller show courts are perhaps more fans than some (not all) of the people you typically find on Centre.
There was a a lot of support for Andy out there.

People were quite up for a treat when they found that they would have a chance to see Andy in action.
If the weather over the next couple of days was not such an issue, I would like to bet that there wouldn't be such an issue.

Neil Harman was pushing for Gasquet/Mayer to be moved Centre last night as it would have made sense to close out the top half of the draw (someone mentioned it in the thread further up)

I hope he gets the job done today. Start quickly Andy and play with a sense of urgency.

[Hawkeye]

Well, the forecast I saw with the lovely Carol Kirkwood this morning appeared to show rain in the morning clearing by lunchtime and not coming back until around 3, so here's hoping the men's last 16 can get finished at least.

[pabbers]

I can't believe that Ferrer and Delpo are now going to be on CC and that Andy's been left in the poo again! Hope he can come out all guns blazing and finish the match.........with a win of course. Just felt he had the momentum but that has been lost and Cilic has had an extra day to recover and a chance to talk about what wasn't working against Andy yesterday.

[wriggles]

thankfully andy on facebook said with a smile back on court at noon so he looks fairly upbeat...hopefully 2 quick sets then off to the practice courts

[millypops]

It will interesting to see when the quarter finals are played who goes on No 1 Court for there match, Novak hasn't played on No 1 Court at all this tournament, I don't think they would dare put Andy out there again WOULD THEY?????

[Mandiemoo]

The Beeb getting in on the wave of unhappiness with Wimbledons decision, encouraging people to vent their spleen on twitter etc but....... we can discuss & criticise it till the cows come home, what's done is done & i guess we just have to pray for a dry window for Andy to get the job done.

C'mon Muzz!

[cazza99]

Well if Andy gets through this match today and all the other players get through their matches today, I would expect they will put Andy on Centre for his quarter finals.

If it then rains again on Wednesday stopping matches for the day, it means that Nole or Fed could be on an outside court and end up playing on both the Thursday and Friday, which would be slightly more to Andy's advantage, if Andy progresses to the final.


Interestingly Petch was not against Andy being on Court no 1 on the Sky report this morning.

[Bardot]

It's not only the fact Andy was scheduled on the uncovered Court 1 but also what they chose to put Centre Court in terms of prospective quality. Djokovic and Federer against 2 unseeded players with whom they have huge win records over and not forgetting Troicki's almost supine behaviour whenever he plays his good friend. Added to this a women's match featuring the crowd dispersing Azarenka against an underpowered Ivanovic. And so it proved to be with Malisse wimping out against an ailing Federer, Azarenka pounding Ivanovic :shamed: and Troicki playing his part as the obedient fanboy to perfection.

[Madeline]

There are junior matches in play at the moment, so hopeful for a prompt noon start for Andy.

[cazza99]

There are junior matches in play at the moment, so hopeful for a prompt noon start for Andy.

The Tsonga/Fish court is up on the red button with linespeeeps coming out on court.

[rondun]

Oh no it isn't!...

[pippadaisy]

WOW look at all these empty seats:confused:

[JAMES4578]

Andy and Cilic have just come on to court, stopped raining 20 minutes ago!

[WimbledonAce]

Drizzle again! Actually agree with Lloyd for once, wow!

[dewster99]

raining again :rolleyes:

[pippadaisy]

:wimbrolly:oh no not more rain can't believe i was there 2 years ago and it was absolutely scorching

[WimbledonAce]

It will interesting to see when the quarter finals are played who goes on No 1 Court for there match, Novak hasn't played on No 1 Court at all this tournament, I don't think they would dare put Andy out there again WOULD THEY?????

Trying to think who fed and nole have? I think theirs are the boring matches again. Andy will be on centre if he gets through today.

[pippadaisy]

ach off again

[pabbers]

This is outrageous - how can they do this to our own player? Get them on CC!!!!!!!

[WimbledonAce]

With regard to Henman I am pretty sure he was ALWAYS on centre even when he wasn't top 5. The only justifiable reason I can find is that the top 10 then wasn't nearly as exciting as it is now.

[pippadaisy]

So they come off for rain but they don't put the covers on ??????????

[WimbledonAce]

This is a shambles! I feel embarassed!

[dewster99]

stop being so anal and just play the game! Cilic is just buying more and more time it's bull. Oh come on it's getting worse!

[rondun]

Closing the roof on centre...

[pippadaisy]

Eventually the covers come on

[pabbers]

Closing the roof on centre...

Lucky Ferrer and Delpo!! My blood pressure is going through the roof!!!!!

[Bardot]

Richard Lewis, head of scheduling on Live@Wimbledon saying that there would be "huge huge safety issues moving a match from Court 1 to Centre Court" :confused: Unfortunately he wasn't asked what these "safety issues" were. He then waffled about how Wimbledon is a global event and all players a treated equally irrespective of nationality and that it was Murray's turn to be on Court 1.................even though it's only the second time in 4 years.

[pabbers]

So when is it Nole's turn for Court 1 then.........probably tomorrow when I'm there :grrr: - always assuming there's play of course.

[WimbledonAce]

Surely they will move it today if it rains all day today? I don't see why it's such a big issue. Court 1 people shouldn't have seen men today anyway.

[rondun]

Lucky Ferrer and Delpo!! My blood pressure is going through the roof!!!!!Better not - then we'd have no play at all!

[millypops]

This is crazy the roof on Centre is only just being put over delaying play there by about 45 minutes, they needed to have started at midday and then if there was time put an extra match on after the Ladies

[pippadaisy]

I'm begining to think we'd be better with no roof then at least ALL the men would be in the same boat

[rondun]

I don't understand why Gasquet & Mayer weren't on centre.
That would have been the fairest to everybody

[WimbledonAce]

Even with the roof no play at moment. Ridiculous.

[pippadaisy]

I don't understand why Gasquet & Mayer weren't on centre.
That would have been the fairest to everybody
I'm inclined to agree but then when was anything done fairly

[dewster99]

worrying about being criticised for having the roof shut is stupid. The time it takes for the roof to open is less than that of it closing cos there's no issue of air conditions so just close it and then open it later if necessary

[ljs]

worrying about being criticised for having the roof shut is stupid. The time it takes for the roof to open is less than that of it closing cos there's no issue of air conditions so just close it and then open it later if necessary


yep , you should be running this show dewster lol

[dewster99]

yep , you should be running this show dewster lol

well to be honest it seems pretty clear to everyone that this is a complete farce so how can these people claim to be the professionals when they're clueless

[DaveArneRiise]

This is one of reasons why US Open is my favourite grand slam. Just so much more relaxed up there, better organisation. Night time matches so the crowd can embrace and enjoy dramatic exciting night time encounters through the night. Much more laid back environment, not like this diabolical which is just way behind the times.

Probably why Andy prefers the US Open too.

[rondun]

Oh Castle - give it up...
Dredging up old stories - and looking at your cheat sheet to make it look as if you know something about tennis.

[WimbledonAce]

I still don't get how they can justify the matches they put on centre yesterday. Was a bizarre line up when you saw the other matches on offer.

[WimbledonAce]

This is one of reasons why US Open is my favourite grand slam. Just so much more relaxed up there, better organisation. Night time matches so the crowd can embrace and enjoy dramatic exciting night time encounters through the night. Much more laid back environment, not like this diabolical which is just way behind the times.

Probably why Andy prefers the US Open too.

Agree although don't forget last years week 2 shambles!

[rondun]

I still don't get how they can justify the matches they put on centre yesterday. Was a bizarre line up when you saw the other matches on offer.Top half of the draw? Defending champion? "Goat"?

[DaveArneRiise]

Agree although don't forget last years week 2 shambles!

How dare you try and sabotage my point :rolling: ;)

[Bardot]

I like how Barker, Bouncy and the Canadian must have mentioned Gasquet's name at least half a dozen times in their conversation about how unfair it was to him and Mayer's name not even once even though he's leading 2 sets to love. :doh: Quality punditry.

What prospects a nasty crack develops in the roof and the subsequent deluge takes out a couple of the Wimbledon scheduling committee? ;)

[WimbledonAce]

How dare you try and sabotage my point :rolling: ;)



Hehe, sorry! I am a huge fan of US open though. Would go again like a shot if not for v expensive air fare!

[WimbledonAce]

Top half of the draw? Defending champion? "Goat"?

But the women did not get same treatment?!

[dewster99]

This is one of reasons why US Open is my favourite grand slam. Just so much more relaxed up there, better organisation. Night time matches so the crowd can embrace and enjoy dramatic exciting night time encounters through the night. Much more laid back environment, not like this diabolical which is just way behind the times.

Probably why Andy prefers the US Open too.

yeah the AO and US are my favourite slams, also coincidentally where andy has gone furthest

[WimbledonAce]

In my opinion unless Andy is playing a complete joker he should be centre from round 3 onwards. I don't agree with all this fairness nonsense whatsoever. He is the player people want to see. Whenever I go to tennis I get asked, did you see Andy? Never Fed,Nole,Rafa etc.

[WimbledonAce]

Flicked red button and courts uncovered!

[RoastLamb]

I like how Barker, Bouncy and the Canadian must have mentioned Gasquet's name at least half a dozen times )

We don't want him back, he can stay British, thank you v. much.

[Alis]

This is one of reasons why US Open is my favourite grand slam. Just so much more relaxed up there, better organisation. Night time matches so the crowd can embrace and enjoy dramatic exciting night time encounters through the night. Much more laid back environment, not like this diabolical which is just way behind the times.

Probably why Andy prefers the US Open too.

I don't think Andy was terribly happy about the organisation at the US Open last year - neither were Rafa or ARod!

[jaysee]

Ball kids and linesmen out but where are the players?

[Bardot]

We don't want him back, he can stay British, thank you v. much.

Belated Happy Canada Day to you.......and Greg. ;)

[RoastLamb]

I don't think Andy was terribly happy about the organisation at the US Open last year - neither were Rafa or ARod!

Let's not forget they've had the final the last three years on the Monday and also their so-called super Saturday is very unfair to the men.

[dewster99]

out they come then. Just as the sun comes out here in cambs

[supergran]

I have been feeling so depressed this morning and a bit tearful...surprised myself as how low I feel regarding Andy's treatment and the sheer ineptitude of the scheduling. Husband didn't help when he calmly commented "Well, that's sport". Have told him not to speak to me. He hasn't.:rain::crying:

[RoastLamb]

Belated Happy Canada Day to you.......and Greg. ;)

You're so kind. But please, keep him on your side of the pond.

[JAMES4578]

Andy and Marian have come back onto court, but there's dark clouds!

[RoastLamb]

I cannot get a livestream to work for court 1. All the others are working OK. Why oh why??? :crying:

[ljs]

http://www.hahasport.com/v-4/2/6/v-420636.html

[Mandiemoo]

Saturday we battled the clock, today we battle the rain! Cmon Muzz!

[ljs]

good start !!!!

[RoastLamb]

http://www.hahasport.com/v-4/2/6/v-420636.html

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You are a lifesaver!

[Mandiemoo]

SHOT to get the first point on Cilic serve at 5-2!

[Mandiemoo]

You're so kind. But please, keep him on your side of the pond.

Only if you take Bouncy Castle....

[WimbledonAce]

Richard Lewis, head of scheduling on Live@Wimbledon saying that there would be "huge huge safety issues moving a match from Court 1 to Centre Court" :confused: Unfortunately he wasn't asked what these "safety issues" were. He then waffled about how Wimbledon is a global event and all players a treated equally irrespective of nationality and that it was Murray's turn to be on Court 1.................even though it's only the second time in 4 years.

I think this is wrong actually. He was on court 1 round 2 last year and court 1 round 1 2010?

[Mandiemoo]

Dare I say it, Muzz playing with positive intent, its deuce again on Cilic serve at 5-2 Muzz

[WimbledonAce]

Come on set point!

[Mandiemoo]

And another speedy cross courter gets set point for Muzz!

[Jane]

Second set to Andy - well done:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::)

[Bardot]

Brilliant from Andy. :cheer:

[Jan]

yes! nice play there from Andy :cheer:

[WimbledonAce]

1 set to go, more rain!

[dewster99]

Andy is flying!

[Mandiemoo]

YES! This is FANTASTIC..... but light drizzle again :-( 2 sets to the Muzz though!

[RoastLamb]

Only if you take Bouncy Castle....

Certainly not! :rolling:

Well done Andy!!! Get it done QUICKLY!

[Mandiemoo]

Uh-oh, 2 break point for Cilic start of 3rd set............

[JAMES4578]

Andy in explosive mode, really taking ot to Cilic! But 2 bps at the start of 3rd, come on Andy!

[Jan]

what a serve!

[Mandiemoo]

2 blindingly brilliant serves save both to bring Deuce

[Mandiemoo]

133mph to save another break point, lets have 2 more to win the game!

[Jan]

great hold

[ljs]

good job Andy :cheer:

[Mandiemoo]

Game won but rain is coming down harder........ Murray is 2 sets up & won his service game to be 1-0 in 3rd. Looks like we are stopping again, umpire down from chair.

[cazza99]

:wimbrolly::wimbrolly::rain::rain::rain::rain: Noooooooo.

[Bardot]

King of the Aces and isn't Andy second in the stats on 2nd serve points won in the championships......one in the eye to Lloydy.

[Mandiemoo]

John Lloyd says something nice about Andy:

Cilic having to play great points just to stay in this match at the moment

[HoopGirl]

Assuming Andywins this match- who is the better for him to play- Ferreror Del Potro?

[JAMES4578]

Yes Andy awesome on the big points, serve working today! Took Cilic to Deuce but the croat holds for 1 all.

[ljs]

Id rather he got Ferrer on grass , Delpo is dangerous imo

[HoopGirl]

Id rather he got Ferrer on grass , Delpo is dangerous imo

That's what I think but andy I think has a good head to head record with Del Pot....

[Mandiemoo]

I want to bottle this Murray & bring him out to start every match! Positive, fantastic on serve, immense on the big points, fabulous on the return, its all good at the moment!

[RoastLamb]

Johnny Mac says Andy will get to the final if he plays his A game.

Awesome kitkat. I jsut want this over toute de suite.

[ljs]

lets hope hes right RL , Andy wants this match done asap

[JAMES4578]

Andy superb right now, breaks and easily holds for 4-1!

[Mandiemoo]

Maybe there's something in this 'timed' tennis lark, he played fantastic for that last set on Saturday, now he knows he's against the rain he is playing probably as well as i have seen him play at Wimbledon. What can we put him up against next?

[david1610]

Just picked up my son. All sounding good. More of the same. C'mon Andy!

[Alis]

C'mon Andy - break now and then serve it out - done and dusted!

[Mandiemoo]

Cilic gets himself back from 0-40 to deuce, gotta give him some credit there as it must be tough out there for him. Muzz gets a breaker......

[Alis]

Another break point - c'mon Andy!

[Alis]

Id rather he got Ferrer on grass , Delpo is dangerous imo

Whoever it is we could do with them knocking seven bells out of each other for five hours of more!

[Mandiemoo]

Cilic gets through so its now 4-2 to Muzz in the 3rd set. Hold now please, we dont want a Cilic fightback!

[david1610]

Relaxed but too much Andy.... still a bit of work to be done! C'mon Andy!

[Jan]

Without wishing to jinx anything, Andy looks like a man on a mission today - he's a real pleasure to watch in this mode!

[JAMES4578]

Pity he didn't break earlier but really impressive, now serving for it at 5-3!

[Jane]

Wonderful play, wonderful win - congratulations, Andy:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::)

[Mandiemoo]

FANTASTIC! Just the ticket, that. FAB-U-LOUS!

[Sallydaisy]

:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[jaysee]

:wimbly::wimbly:Job done! Well done Andy! Can now relax about the rain!

[Bardot]

Magnificent Andy! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

Centre Court from now on.

[Jan]

Awesome! Brilliant, Andy :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[ljs]

Fantastic finish Andy !!!! that was Murray in a hurry to get that one done :cheer:

[lynne]

Excellent play Andy!!!!..........:thumbup:

[Alis]

:cheer::cheer::cheer: Well played Andy - great win! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

Murray in a hurry is a good formula - perhaps we should put him on a time clock for every match.

[RoastLamb]

So relieved that's over and he can get some rest before the 1/4 final.

[Sallydaisy]

Murray in a hurry is a good formula - perhaps we should put him on a time clock for every match.
I was just thinking that myself ..........
;)

[supergran]

Magnificent Murray!!:cheer::cheer: Job done and how measured and humble he was in his interview!:thumbup: I am so happy now!!:cheer::yahoo::yahoo:

[JAMES4578]

Some tremendous play from Andy today and at least the delays today weren't too long, well done!:cheer::cheer::cheer: Looks like it'll be Ferrer tomorrow as he's 2 sets up.

[supergran]

:cheer::cheer::cheer: Well played Andy - great win! :cheer::cheer::cheer:

Murray in a hurry is a good formula - perhaps we should put him on a time clock for every match. I thought that also.:lol:

[HoopGirl]

well wasnt that fantastic from Andy - more of that on a consistant basis would get a grandslam soon i think!

[DaveArneRiise]

Superb, such a professional classy display considering the circumstances! Just brilliant. Well done the Muzz :cheer: :yahoo:

[WimbledonAce]

So glad he got it done so quickly and no more rain breaks. Sue thinks andy and fed on centre tomorrow.

[Alis]

I think there would be uproar if Andy wasn't on Centre tomorrow!

[david1610]

Rain falls..... Andy's hurray vindicated.... at least our guy has done all he can to mitigate the practical problems!
Daviid has turned into a quality grass player!

[cazza99]

:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: well done Andy

[Alis]

Rain falls..... Andy's hurray vindicated.... at least our guy has done all he can to mitigate the practical problems!
Daviid has turned into a quality grass player!

From what little of the match I saw I would say that he didn't have a lot of opposition. Delpo was all over the place.

[-J-]

getinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[jamie&andy's fan]

Thank goodness !!! Well done Andy. He's doing really well at Wimbledon :) :D !!!

[Maza1987]

Very efficient today.

[Alis]

Has anyone found the stats for the Andy/Cilic match?

[rondun]

Marin Cilic (http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/players/overview/atpc977.html) (CRO)

Andy Murray (http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/players/overview/atpmc10.html) (GBR)


4
Aces
16


3
Double faults
1


54 of 92 = 59 %
1st serves in
60 of 88 = 68 %


39 of 54 = 72 %
1st serve points won
43 of 60 = 72 %


13 of 38 = 34 %
2nd serve points won
20 of 28 = 71 %


126 MPH
Fastest serve
134 MPH


115 MPH
Average 1st serve speed
117 MPH


91 MPH
Average 2nd serve speed
86 MPH


20 of 35 = 57 %
Net points won
11 of 15 = 73 %


1 of 8 = 13 %
Break points won
5 of 12 = 42 %


25 of 88 = 28 %
Receiving points won
40 of 92 = 43 %


23
Winners
35


24
Unforced errors
15


77
Total points won
103

[Sallydaisy]

If anyone missed it they are showing the last set of Andy's match right now on BBC2.

Thanks for the stats Rondun, I'll add them to the match summary thread.
:thumbup:

[karanga]

Well done Andy - fantastic. :strawberry: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[pabbers]

Blood pressure back to normal.

You can watch the whole thing on the BBC sports website.

[Manaus]

Wasn't able to watch this but great work Andy! :cheer:

[Sallydaisy]

You can watch the whole thing on the BBC sports website.

Thanks Pabbers - I totally forgot about that!
Have been asleep on and off today; but was awake (just) to watch Andy finish in style.

[traveller7]

Great finish to a relatively easy match, glad he got the rest as he needs the energy for this match with Ferrer!