WIMBLEDON 2012, QUARTER-FINAL: Braveheart beats The Beast - 6'7(5), 7'6(6), 6'4, 7'6(4)

[cazza99]

British Tennis ‏@BritishTennis

We have just been told that the roof is to remain open as the rain is going to pass quickly over SW19. How will this match end? Thoughts?

[Madeline]

BBC total pain with this jumping back and forward from 2 to1 1to 2 just make a decision and keep it in one place already

I'm glad you said that! I'm recording this upstairs, have been watching on the downstairs tv but ceded the tv to the Other Half at 7 and started to watch on the computer. I had to dash (well, hobble) upstairs and change channels.

Why do they do that? Tennis is supposed to be on BBC 2 at this time of day! They surely must know people are trying to record the tennis.

[pippadaisy]

your welcome got caught out with that before now I just record everything on 1 and 2 just in case

[Madeline]

your welcome got caught out with that before now I just record everything on 1 and 2 just in case

I can't do that - only two recorders: the one downstairs will only record what is on the screen, so if my husband has another program on I'm snookered. He is not a tennis fan, unfortunately. I have to record on the upstairs one which I have control of!

[supergran]

Have been in the other room, mostly standing and pacing but so excited. Come on Andy...you can do this!!!

[ljs]

covers off , lets go

[rondun]

Net's up!

[Nina]

Any news?

[traveller7]

They are coming back out

[supergran]

They're out!! Go Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[-J-]

players back oot

[ljs]

back on court , cmonnnnnnnnn Andy !!!!!

[Manaus]

Really hoping Andy comes off the blocks and finishes this quickly.

[lynne]

You can do this Andy!!!!!!..............COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hfwardhouse]

Really hoping Andy comes off the blocks and finishes this quickly.

Me too .... and Mr HFW and Minnie would agree cos no dinner in this house till the match is over ;)

[-J-]

Me too .... and Mr HFW and Minnie would agree cos no dinner in this house till the match is over ;)im supposed to be cooking too

[traveller7]

Yeah we are waiting for dinner til match is done lol
Be a shame in a way to be over so quick as its been a fantastic match so far

[Jan]

Please please please Andy take this in the 4th set

[Mandiemoo]

I tell you what, it's times like this I wished I followed a different sport. Nerves, close to tears, heart racing, sweating, elation, fingernail-biting, its all been going on here.

Can we get an annoucement over the tannoy: 'Mr A Murray, your parking ticket has run out & you car is about to be towed. Please return to your vehicle within 10 minutes'

Might get the job done?

C'mon Muzz!

[-J-]

Yeah we are waiting for dinner til match is done lol
Be a shame in a way to be over so quick as its been a fantastic match so faroh il settle for just 5-10 more minutes

[ljs]

Im waiting to go to the beach , hurrry Andy please , its sooooo hot here

[Jan]

Yeah we are waiting for dinner til match is done lol
Be a shame in a way to be over so quick as its been a fantastic match so far
yes but the sooner it's over now the better

[RoastLamb]

Im waiting to go to the beach , hurrry Andy please , its sooooo hot here

Which beach? My hubby's out playing golf and I'm stuck indoors.

[-J-]

I tell you what, it's times like this I wished I followed a different sport. Nerves, close to tears, heart racing, sweating, elation, fingernail-biting, its all been going on here.

Can we get an annoucement over the tannoy: 'Mr A Murray, your parking ticket has run out & you car is about to be towed. Please return to your vehicle within 10 minutes'

Might get the job done?

C'mon Muzz!sadly he has enough Dow just to buy a new one

[JAMES4578]

Yeah we are waiting for dinner til match is done lol
Be a shame in a way to be over so quick as its been a fantastic match so far

Well I'm certainly wanting it to be over quickly now and it has been quite a lengthy match! Players wearming up, come on Andy!

[Sallydaisy]

Me too .... and Mr HFW and Minnie would agree cos no dinner in this house till the match is over ;)


im supposed to be cooking too

Slo-cooker = casserole to do itself
bung chips in oven at 4-4 in the 5th.
:big grin:

[traveller7]

yeah we dont want a tiebreak granted

[RoastLamb]

Pam's been offered a scone and jam on Henman Hill. I think ILW is trying to poison her now.

[Manaus]

Come on Andy! Break him here!

[pippadaisy]

Back come on

[ljs]

Which beach? My hubby's out playing golf and I'm stuck indoors.

Port Dover

[traveller7]

i really really want a kitkat

[Sallydaisy]

Come on Muzzah!!!!!
:swingin::swingin::swingin:

[RoastLamb]

Port Dover

Very nice. I've been there. Had some fried perch. Mmmm.

[traveller7]

40-15 come on get on his serve

[Manaus]

Damn Ferrer holding easily. Really important to hold Andy!

[hfwardhouse]

Uh oh .... come on Andy - good hold now please!

[-J-]

sok andy
MUST secure the TB
CMONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[traveller7]

Needs to hold on here even though a tiebreak makes me ill

[pippadaisy]

break ha s given Ferrer some oomph

[Mandiemoo]

I'm chain-eating tic-tacs from a special Union Jack box. C'mon Andy, for the sake of my teeth!

[-J-]

3 more
cmonnnnnnnn

[-J-]

Pick that oot
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[ljs]

wowza great serves

[traveller7]

Fab hold for Murray to love

[Manaus]

TB time we go :sofa:. Come on Andy!

[cazza99]

break ha s given Ferrer some oomph

Andy too :)

[Mandiemoo]

wowza great serves

Agreed. We need some of those in the TB!

[pippadaisy]

good service game tiebreak time

[-J-]

Ok andy serve like that and look for the opportunities
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Sallydaisy]

2 Aces, one unreturnable, and Ace No 15 takes us into a tie-break for the 4th set.

:sofa:

[hfwardhouse]

Woop - great first point in the tiebreak .... maybe won't need the :sofa: after all?

COME ON ANDY!

[Mandiemoo]

My breath is hotter than the gates of hell! C'mon Muzz!

[-J-]

Good lad
now 2 from 2
build a lead
cmonnnnnnnnnn

[Manaus]

MB get!!!! :clap: Now hold the next 2 or it means nothing.

[traveller7]

wooza

love this slow mo shots hahaha

[-J-]

One more
cmonnnnnnnnnnnn

[JAMES4578]

oh well another breaker, superb winner and good serve 2-0 Andy, but now 2 all-come on!

[Manaus]

Daaagh, given back. :sad:

[-J-]

Sok 50% 1 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnn

[hfwardhouse]

Ok - decided to take it out after all :sofa:

LET'S GO ANDY LET'S GO!

[traveller7]

2-1 Andy
2-2
eek gonna be a tight one again

[-J-]

This one then
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[Manaus]

Hold next 2 Andy, getting really nervous. :sofa:

[-J-]

Ok andy keep it tight 2 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[ljs]

arrrrrgggggg

[traveller7]

2-3
must hold here

[hfwardhouse]

OMG Will Young's there .... Pabbers is there too ... does she know?!

[-J-]

One more
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[traveller7]

Will Young has had a busy day he was at loose women this afternoon

[HoopGirl]

Ace

[Mandiemoo]

I think eating too many tic-tacs makes you feel sick.... oh no. thats Murraycoaster nerves

[Manaus]

At least one of the next 2 Andy!

[traveller7]

4-3andy
come on break him

[-J-]

Nice
50%
1 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[traveller7]

5-3 andy
argghhhh

[-J-]

Be greedy
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Mandiemoo]

5-3 to Muzz, I havent got the stomach lining for another set so please do it!

[Manaus]

Get the next one too for insurance. :clap:

[traveller7]

5-4 ok still ok just needs to hold

[hfwardhouse]

Oooooh come on Andy!

[-J-]

On your raquet anydy 2 from 2
cmonnnnnnnnnnnn

[Manaus]

Ok, stay calm just hold the next 2 and you're done. Come on Andy!

[-J-]

3 set points
cmonnnnnnnnnnn

[hfwardhouse]

Match point .... ace please!

[Manaus]

2MPs! Please go for it Andy!!!!

[traveller7]

Match point

[Jane]

Well done, Andy - congratulations :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::)

[Sallydaisy]

:yahoo:http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/images/smileys/yahoo.gifhttp://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/images/smileys/yahoo.gifhttp://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/images/smileys/yahoo.gifhttp://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/images/smileys/yahoo.gif

WHAT A MATCH!!!!!

That was a huge acheivement for Andy against Duracel Dave in 4 tough sets.
6'7, 7'6, 6'4, 7'6

[hfwardhouse]

Atta boy - did as he was told :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[traveller7]

fantastic cant believe it ace on match point
woooohoooooooooooooooo

[-J-]

Getinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Golden Lady]

:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer: Congratulations Magic Murray!!!!

[Mandiemoo]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS SSSSSSSSS

(Mr MM & Minimoo in bed so all sound off & can't shout at home!)

[Manaus]

YESSSSSSS!!! Andy into the SFs!!!!!!!!!!! :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
Really hard match for Andy, big well done to him!!! So relieved.

[-J-]

never doubted it for a second :p

[Bardot]

Magnificent under the most incredible pressure from Ferrer. :cheer::cheer::cheer:

[RoastLamb]

I just screaned so loud all the windows blew out! :lol:

What a great win! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

:phew:

[ljs]

woooohoooooo congrats Andy !! well deserved !!!!

im so happy for him !!!!!

[pippadaisy]

yeeeeeeessssssssssssss:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

[traveller7]

So please I could cry
Semi Final and no Nadal in the semis he really does have a chance this year

[lynne]

Excellent play from Andy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.............BRAVO!!!!! !!!!!...............So happy for Andy!!!!!!:thumbup:

[Sallydaisy]

Here's how the tiebreak played out for those who missed it.

Ferrer serving first .....

*0-1 and a stunning shot from Andy to win that point
0-2* good serve, DF into the net
1-2* great point from DF to win that point and get the mb back. HUMPH!!!!!
*2-2 and that's because Ferrer hit a wonderful forehand winner down the line
*3-2 Andy hits out
3-3*
3-4* Great serve from Andy!!! He looks like a caged tiger at his end of the court.
*3-5 DF hits wide
*4-5 Just 2 good serves needed.
4-6* 2 match points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4-7*

[cazza99]

:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo::yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo::yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo::yahoo: :yahoo:

[Jan]

Just brilliant - I'm exhausted! Well done Andy :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[JAMES4578]

Another tense breaker but Andy stepped it up to take it 7-4. A very tough match but a gutsy display from Andy, he stepped it up when he had to. Terrific, well done Andy!:clap::clap::clap:

[traveller7]

The signs are good I think, Andys mental attitude has been fantastic this Wimby I feel

[Nina]

what a way to finish the match
I'm out of emotions
there was some moments I almost lost hope

well done to both

but I still think Andy could play better, hit much harder and win in 3 easy sets

[-J-]

Braveheart beats The Beast:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

[Bardot]

When you think of the player's Andy has beaten to get to the semi-final compared with the easy rides of Djokovic & Federer, he has more than earned and deserves his place. So proud. :)

[-J-]

andy has matched henmans match record of 4 semis

[RFS]

I just screamed myself hoarse.
His praise for Ferrer was wonderful. Such respect between those guys

[rondun]

Will Young has had a busy day he was at loose women this afternoonNow there's something you don't often see in the same sentence

[-J-]

Now there's something you don't often see in the same sentencewe need a spitting oot drink smiley for that one :rolling:

[Manaus]

we need a spitting oot drink smiley for that one :rolling:
http://www.thegaragegazette.com/Smileys/fantasticsmileys/th_spit.gif

[RFS]

Now there's something you don't often see in the same sentence
Beer, meet screen... tooooo funny!

[Sallydaisy]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[traveller7]

4 Semi Finals in a row, and this year how refreshing to hear he faces Tsonga instead of Nadal he goes in as a slight favourite for a change!

[rondun]

we need a spitting oot drink smiley for that one :rolling:http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c130/rondun/spitcoffee.gif

[cazza99]

:rofl:


Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes

Give Andy Murray his due. That was particularly proficient and showed an awful lot of balls (not the ones that fell out his pocket recently)

[supergran]

:cheer::cheer::cheer::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo: Knew he'd do it!!

[Sallydaisy]

4 Semi Finals in a row, and this year how refreshing to hear he faces Tsonga instead of Nadal he goes in as a slight favourite for a change!

Anti-jinx potion no 9 coming up!!!
:cauldron:

[clancy]

When you think of the player's Andy has beaten to get to the semi-final compared with the easy rides of Djokovic & Federer, he has more than earned and deserves his place. So proud. :)

I agree wholeheartedly. I'm frightened to say it but perhaps this year really is ...... Think I'll go and light a candle for him ! Please God .....

[Jennan]

Just got home, soooooo happy. Must admit was a bit concerned about David. Can't wait to watch the tape.:yahoo:

[millypops]

I was so worried after Ferrer one the first set, and Andy was a break down I know I should have faith, now what bottle of wine should I get to drink to celebrate the semis?????????????????????

[HoopGirl]

Sooo pleased he won in 4 - such a tough match - Ferrer is a really awesome player - Andy played really well - he was awesomer!!

[harriet]

what a result! i am exhausted, and i don't have a physio and an ice-bath to restore me!

[Katie]

That match was so stressful! So happy that Andy came through, he fought so hard. Huge credit to Ferru though, he played brilliantly. Luckily Andy was able to raise his level when it really mattered. :)

[traveller7]

My body feels all tense and this is only the quarters! Heaven knows what I will be like on Friday just hope I get to watch it!

[davech]

That was oh, so close from start to finish. It was exhausting to watch - I wonder how tiring it was to play...

[supergran]

That was really stressful but so exciting. I have a high temperature, a runny nose and a sore throat. When I left this room to watch I needed something to soothe my throat so had a few scoops of Amaretto. It's worked...was able to shout my head of f but now I feel so hot and I have a headache. But I don't care, It is all worth it. Andy is worth it.

[traveller7]

Feel better soon SG! (Hopefully by Friday)

[WimbledonAce]

Great match, class from both players. Superb that Andy came through, loved his focus today. All his energy into the match rather than distractions. So proud of our boy, bring on Tsonga, woot!!! :cheer:

[rondun]

so had a few scoops of Amaretto. It's worked...was able to shout my head of f but now I feel so hot and I have a headache.Ice cold cider and a G&T and you should be laughing.
Literally!

[Alis]

That was really stressful but so exciting. I have a high temperature, a runny nose and a sore throat. When I left this room to watch I needed something to soothe my throat so had a few scoops of Amaretto. It's worked...was able to shout my head of f but now I feel so hot and I have a headache. But I don't care, It is all worth it. Andy is worth it.

Hope you feel better soon SG - you have to be in good voice for the match on Friday!

[supergran]

Ice cold cider and a G&T and you should be laughing.
Literally! I felt like I needed something smooth for my throat.:lol: And I don't drink cider or gin.:)

[david1610]

Just had a break in my summer course (teaching til 10:00 p.m.). So so so happy!
Well done Andy!

[Madeline]

I actually had to go and lie down for a while after that. SO tense!

I wish I had a crystal ball so I could know the result on Friday before watching the match. Much less enervating! And no, I couldn't bear to record it to watch later!

[Alis]

Congratulations Andy - what a fantastic win! Onwards and upwards!

[DaveArneRiise]

Just a monstrous victory when you think Ferrer served to go 2 sets up and was 5-2 up in the breaker too! Andy not that he has to anyways answered back a lot of critics today. Superb win. Bring on La Ga! :yahoo:

Thanks James for texting me updates!

[cazza99]

Steven ‏@GBtennis

Good to know it wasn't just me who heard Bouncy say "3 manly points from Ferrer, now 2 gay points" (he meant game points, I'm sure!) ...

... and found the Tsonga "played 1 lost 5" H2H against Muzz a bit extreme (we knew what he meant ...) :-)

[RFS]

OMG - This just came up on twitter so I had a look at the link and this seemed like the best place to put it.
Warning, some of the tweets that come up in the piece do use a lot of "language" but this is hilar!!!!!

Shank Tennis Link (http://shanktennis.com/2012/07/04/twitter-loves-andrew-castle/)

[DaveArneRiise]

OMG - This just came up on twitter so I had a look at the link and this seemed like the best place to put it.
Warning, some of the tweets that come up in the piece do use a lot of "language" but this is hilar!!!!!

Shank Tennis Link (http://shanktennis.com/2012/07/04/twitter-loves-andrew-castle/)

That's quality :rolling: :rolling:

[traveller7]

haha brilliant I think that pretty much sums up what many if not all of us on here feel!

[scrapaddict]

Great fight Andy. Initially he looked short of energy and I was a bit worried at second set TB BUT he raised his game and esp his serve was so good at the end. Well done Andy. My first ever each way bet for Wimbledon is looking good!

[RFS]

That's quality :rolling: :rolling:


haha brilliant I think that pretty much sums up what many if not all of us on here feel!

I am impatiently waiting for Andy's presser to turn around for TPN, and I just can't stop looking at it and chuckling like a loon...

[-J-]

OMG - This just came up on twitter so I had a look at the link and this seemed like the best place to put it.
Warning, some of the tweets that come up in the piece do use a lot of "language" but this is hilar!!!!!

Shank Tennis Link (http://shanktennis.com/2012/07/04/twitter-loves-andrew-castle/)my kind of people :rolling:

[Sallydaisy]

OMG - This just came up on twitter so I had a look at the link and this seemed like the best place to put it.
Warning, some of the tweets that come up in the piece do use a lot of "language" but this is hilar!!!!!

Shank Tennis Link (http://shanktennis.com/2012/07/04/twitter-loves-andrew-castle/)
Reading that little lot should perk Supergran up no end.
:p

[banskogirl]

Just in and the last set didnt record! Did they do one of their silly channel changes? All I have is Wimbledon today :/ Great win for Andy though, thats the main thing!!

[traveller7]

yes they switched to BBC 1 u can catch up on iplayer perhaps?

[pippadaisy]

ha ha ha so funny almost feel sorry for bouncy :lol:
had to go out straight after the match just had to say
WELL DONE ANDY roll on Friday can't wait :cheer:
thanks all for your comments get well soon SG need you cheering come friday
night cant resist this
:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:: yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

[Jan]

Glad Andy has a day to recover and prepare for the semi. Glad we do too!!

[karanga]

Congratulations Andy. :strawberry: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

[jamie&andy's fan]

I a so relieved haha Well done Andy that was a real murraycoaster ! :D

[Chris83]

That was such a tough match and i admit i underestimated Ferrer but i just knew Andy would win. I feel a kind of destiny situation at work here. Andy showed at times how devastating he can be both on offence and defence but couldn't seem to do it often enough. All that matters is that you win, it doesn't matter the next day or week that you didn't play your best, all that counts is the win.

[Passionanda]

Couldn't agree MORE!!
When you think of the player's Andy has beaten to get to the semi-final compared with the easy rides of Djokovic & Federer, he has more than earned and deserves his place. So proud. :)

[karanga]

Hope you feel better soon Supergran so that you can enjoy Friday's :coaster: and cheer Andy on.

[banskogirl]

yes they switched to BBC 1 u can catch up on iplayer perhaps?

Thanks traveller :) unfortunately it's unavailable, not sure what happened. Hubby is sure it was showing record but this happened me earlier in the week and I caught on. Anyway so long as Andy got the win :) I won't miss Friday's anyway!!

[Helen40]

Thanks traveller :) unfortunately it's unavailable, not sure what happened. Hubby is sure it was showing record but this happened me earlier in the week and I caught on. Anyway so long as Andy got the win :) I won't miss Friday's anyway!!

Yeah, I got caught too, and then my DVD died :-(. You're going to have drag me kicking and sreaming aaway from the live match on Friday!

[rouges]

Congrats Andy, never doubted you, I always believe, know you'd give your all which you did. Proud to be your fan. thanks David for giving us the best 1/4 F match. Sorry one has to lose but hope you win some other time as long as you don't play Andy I will support you.

[jeannie13]

What a match-very exciting!! It was a real Murraycoaster.:coaster: I was on the edge of my seat Can't wait until Friday:jitterbug:
Hope you feel better soon Maureen. Try some Bailies-It's very smooth!:wino:

[MurrayAOne]

Absolutely brilliant win Andy!!!! Was so good!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dewster99]

just about to start watching from the 2nd set TB onwards. So pleased for him after the first I was really worried. Obviously it'll be a tough match but more confident for Tsonga now as Andy's ability to stay in rallies will put pressure on Jo and he's not as consistent as Daveed, although his serve is firing right now.

[Maza1987]

Andy played superb in the big moments today. He really took it to him in the crunch moments.

[Linda]

OMG - This just came up on twitter so I had a look at the link and this seemed like the best place to put it.
Warning, some of the tweets that come up in the piece do use a lot of "language" but this is hilar!!!!!

Shank Tennis Link (http://shanktennis.com/2012/07/04/twitter-loves-andrew-castle/)

So the overall consensus is that Andrew Castle is a piece of door furniture?

I only caught most of the second and third sets today but it seemed like a great match, and the encouraging thing is that it was Andy who was mentally stronger in the important points.

[dewster99]

for some reason the match is available on iplayer on my PC but not on my wii (only Fed's on there). Can't watch it from bed now :(

[Genbrit]

Wow, what a day. Waiting for Flight home to Vegas from San Diego. Watched most of Andy this morning, although missed most of the second set as was picking my son up from his ship. Had a lovely day with him and have now left him with his friends to celebrate 4th July as we fly home. Maybe I'll see some fireworks as we land. Can't wait for Friday - C'mon Andy.:strawberry::yahoo:

[xenon21]

Wahey! Well done Andy!!! He did so well! And served really well when needed! Proud of him! Ferrer has been laying great recently an this was no easy task!

Bring on Friday!!!

[wriggles]

wow andy stayed so strong at the end, there were many ups and downs and i was really worried mid way through 2nd set as he looked to hit a slump and couldnt pull the trigger on his shots, but he got stronger and stronger through the match, you could tell there were some nerves at the beginning.

a well handled tricky customer i dont think tsonga will be as tricky!

[WimbledonAce]

Loved the interview with Ferrer, he is so lovely! Such a shame Andy has all the likeable players in his half. Jo Willy another favourite.

[wriggles]

Loved the interview with Ferrer, he is so lovely! Such a shame Andy has all the likeable players in his half. Jo Willy another favourite.

I know Daveed so gracious and unassuming...he was so sweet in pre match presser as well..."andy is the favourite..because he is a better player"...he really doesnt know how good he is.

[pabbers]

Anti-jinx potion no 9 coming up!!!
:cauldron:

Yup........:cauldron::cauldron::cauldron:

Was on Henman Hill yelling my head off much to my friend's embarrassment (her first experience of Wimbly). We had to leave just before the rain delay, so thanks to Sally for texting the scores. Was biting my nails on the tube as all went quiet for a bit but hadn't realised they'd come off. Also many thanks to the Beeb (not) for changing channels at 5-5 final set so my recording was useless for me catching up on the end of the match. OK saw it on the pc but not the same.