ATP general thread

[cazza99]

This thread is to discuss the ATP in general and ATP players who do not have their own thread.

There is a separate thread in this sub-forum to discuss the ATP Rankings.
Andy's Rankings are on a different thread in Andy 'off-court'

[Linda]

I'm sure someone posted this humorous article on fistpump styles on the old forum, but here it is again: http://espn.go.com/espn/page2/story/_/id/6906654/an-illustrated-history-tennis-fist-pumps

[Linda]

Nice little vid all about Alexandr Dolgopolov on the ATP homepage this week http://www.atpworldtour.com/

[Sallydaisy]

From tennis.com
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=14782&zoneid=25

Andy Roddick and Serena Williams have decided to play the mixed doubles event together at the 2012 Australian Open in January. Serena made the announcement on Twitter.

[Linda]

I wouldn't like to be the umpire or one of the linesmen for their matches :sofa:

[-J-]

From tennis.com
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=14782&zoneid=25

Andy Roddick and Serena Williams have decided to play the mixed doubles event together at the 2012 Australian Open in January. Serena made the announcement on Twitter.preb for the Olympics you think ?

[VamosVixs]

I wouldn't like to be the umpire or one of the linesmen for their matches :sofa:

:eek::eek::eek:

[RoastLamb]

I wouldn't like to be the umpire or one of the linesmen for their matches :sofa:

:lol:

[RoastLamb]

Don't write Fed off yet. My husband is absolutely convinced he's gonna win the Olympic singles gold medal next year but I have a sneaking suspicion the pressure of it may be too much.

[Golden Lady]

Don't write Fed off yet. My husband is absolutely convinced he's gonna win the Olympic singles gold medal next year but I have a sneaking suspicion the pressure of it may be too much.

I agree RL, particularly about not writing Fed off just yet.

[VamosVixs]

I'm not writing Fed off at all, I still think he could win a slam next year.

[ljs]

I dont :red devil:

[-J-]

i do, and one day as sure as night follows day i will be right,:grrr:

[Mickey]

i do, and one day as sure as night follows day i will be right,:grrr: We all can have our dreams, but I think it will remain a dream!

[supergran]

I'm saying he could possibly win another but probably not....I hope.:shrug:

[Katie]

I think Fed will win another slam - Wimbledon or the US Open. It's amazing how motivated he still is despite of all he's achieved - he has said in the past that he'd like to play until his mid-thirties so retirement may still be a way off yet.

[RoastLamb]

I can totally see him doing a Sampras and winning a major in his thirties when everyone has written him off. Then he'll retire on a high point.

[Fina]

I really hope Andy will have got his name on the board by the time he's in his thirties.

[Katie]

I can totally see him doing a Sampras and winning a major in his thirties when everyone has written him off. Then he'll retire on a high point.

Yeah I can definitely see that happening. He'd have to avoid Rafa though as I don't think Fed will beat him again in a slam.


I really hope Andy will have got his name on the board by the time he's in his thirties.

I hope by the time Andy's in his thirties he'll have won multiple slams! :thumbup: Next year is going to be very interesting, I have a good feeling about Wimbledon.

[RoastLamb]

Me too, Katie! :thumbup:

[-J-]

i know im properly being a little dense but where on the ranking breakdown page (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx?t=rb&ytd=y) dose it show you points for the WTF

[hfwardhouse]

You need to make sure it's the YTD rankings that you have selected as the points value is different for both.

[Linda]

You are looking at the YTD rankings. Change it to the rolling ATP rankings using the drop down box and you will see it. (The ATP default on their site has changed from the usual rolling rankings to the YTD rankings, which I think has confused quite a few people!)

[-J-]

knew i was missing the blinding obvious
thank you

[pabbers]

Think WTF will be a strange affair this year - almost last man standing. Rafa's going to be physically the freshest but will he have overcome the mental battering of his losses of late?

[Linda]

I agree, Alis - I think we can see all of the top players finding an excuse not to play Paris next year. Of course both Fed and Rafa can skip one Masters now, but I'm sure they would like to skip one in the summer with the added pressure of the Olympics next year - but they may find that it is better to skip Paris.

[davech]

Why is it that most of the ATP's rescheduling decisions seem to make things worse? I just can't understand having the Paris Masters and WTF back to back.

[AllyB]

Why is it that most of the ATP's rescheduling decisions seem to make things worse? I just can't understand having the Paris Masters and WTF back to back.

To save travelling for ATP bigwigs? Wouldn't surprise me!

[Alis]

This really does seem to be a very odd decision. Paris has arguably the best atmosphere of all the Masters series - it would be so sad to see few of the top 10 players there next year. Why can't they push the whole autumn schedule back a week? There seems to be a natural gap between the end of the US Open and the beginning of the Asian swing - would it not be possible to lose a week then or am I being too simplistic?

[RoastLamb]

What about next year's Olympics and Toronto's Rogers Cup back to back. I bet you any money the medallists won't be going to Toronto. :sad:

[david1610]

I think we can talk about the ATP calendar, but otherwise there is a de facto split between the top four's year and the years of other players which as far as I can see is more pronounced than ever.

Nole, Andy and Roger are down as having played 17 and Rafa as 18 tournaments i.e. an average of 17.3 tournaments. *

If you look at the core year - they all played the slams of course, only Andy played all the Masters, and the other 3 missed one.
500s - All four just played TWO!
Other - Nole played Belgrade (obviously), Rafa played Doha and Queens, Andy Thailand and Queens and Roger Doha.

Top 4 matches 2011 (Ws + Ls)

Nole 71 (27 GSs), Rafa 79 (26 GSs), Andy 65 (25 GSs) Roger 66 (24 GSs)

The next tier (O2 finalists) have played more tournaments - 21, 22 or 23 tournaments, averaging 22 tourneys. They appear to have played a lot of matches as well, but key is the number of Grand Slam matches**:
Ferrer 70 (but only 18 GS matches, Berdych 68 (GSs 13), Tsonga 71(GS 17) and Fish 63 (GS 14).

The next tier, the 9-20,have played 19-29 tournaments., an average of 23.5 tourneys. Injuries clearly played a part in such a spread of tourneys played.

What is clear is that, as I mentioned in a previous post, the GS dominance of the top four brings a points and rankings advantage, but at a physical cost where even fulfilling the rest of the "core" year is made more difficult. Their tennis year is a "depth" one as they literally go deep in the important tourneys they play.

As you go down the list, there is the tendency to play more tournaments as players go out earlier. Essentially they have a "breadth" year playing more weeks of the year but not at the intensity of the top four.

Andy's year
We can see Andy's year apart from the O2 finals and it really is striking how black and white it is.
If we count "deep" as Winning anything and making Semis or better of Masters and GSs, of the 17 tourneys, there are 5 Ws. There is 1 F and 5 Ss (all at Master or GS level). Total: 11 out of 17

Apart from two exceptions, Paris Q and Madrid R16, the other 4 tournaments are first match exits (remembering the bye system) Rotterdam 32 Miami R64, Indian Wells R64, Canada R32

Looking dispassionately at this, apart from a post-AO blip, Andy had a fantastic year from the rankings point of view. In 15 out of 17 tournaments he either went really deep or had first round exits!

Summary
It seems that if nothing changes, the top players are going to be increasingly absent from most of the lower ranked ATP tournaments
4*2 = 8 ATP 500 appearances by the top 4 NOT spread out and there are 11 ATP 500 tourneys
5 250 presences and there are 42 ATP 250 tourneys (if you include Dusseldforf).


The ATP has to think carefully about the year(s) otherwise two tours (admittedly coming together at the Masters and GSs) are existing within the supposedly one tour.

* Not including Davis Cup matches, which adds to the total of course.
** Not analysing things like five setters which would also be interesting.

[Madeline]

Thanks David, that is really interesting.

[patmoren]

Great break down David, I love stats.

[Sallydaisy]

For Canadian tennis fans a chance tonight to see Milos Raonic play Pete Sampras.
http://samprasvsraonic.com/

Milos is about a foot taller than Pete!!! Some great photos on that website.

[RoastLamb]

I wish I was going. :sad: But I'm not. And they're not even showing it on telly. :sad:

[david1610]

From tennis.com
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/news.aspx?articleid=14782&zoneid=25

Andy Roddick and Serena Williams have decided to play the mixed doubles event together at the 2012 Australian Open in January. Serena made the announcement on Twitter.
Team tactics talk to include turn taking for tantrums

[RoastLamb]

Milos beat Pistol Pete 7-6 6-1. There is a 20-year age difference between them so that first set is pretty amazing.

David, love your headline. :rolling: You should work for a newspaper.

[RoastLamb]

I see Milos won the ATP Newcomer of the Year. Awesome! :thumbup: At least they got one of the awards right this year. ;)

[VamosVixs]

Well done Milos! :clap:

[cazza99]

Tennis X (http://bleacherreport.com/tb/bcaHF) - Jo-Wilfried Tsonga’s House Robbed During ATP Finals Sunday
Awwww. Poor Jo Wilfred.

[JAMES4578]

yes that was very sad for Jo!

[Alis]

Beaten by a Swiss and burgled by a Swiss in one afternoon - bad luck Jo!

[VamosVixs]

Aww poor Jo-W! :sad:

[Linda]

Just goes to show you can't trust the Swiss ;)

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/Granny_Linda/Smileys/whackaswiss.gif

[Sallydaisy]

Alex Willis tweets that Richard Krajicek won't be going to the ATP any time soon.


Oh ho. Dutch daily De Telegraaf reporting Richard Krajicek has withdrawn his candidacy for ATP World Tour CEO bit.ly/u34j7q (via @drossingh (http://twitter.com/#!/drossingh))

[Alis]

Interesting!

[RoastLamb]

That's too bad. I wonder why?

[lankster2003]

That's too bad. I wonder why?

I believe as he couldn't muster enough support from board members. 'Word on the street' is that he possibly lacked enough business experience.

[lankster2003]

Shame Marin Cilic has been forced to pull out of the Australian Open with a leg injury. Sad times as he was starting to find some real form

[JAMES4578]

Shame Marin Cilic has been forced to pull out of the Australian Open with a leg injury. Sad times as he was starting to find some real form

Yes, that really is disappointing!

[Linda]

Mikhail Youzhny is now Dr. Youzhny! http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/12/Features/Youzhny-Earns-Philosophy-Doctorate.aspx

[Linda]

From the ATP website: BRAD DREWETT APPOINTED ATP EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN AND PRESIDENT (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/12/Features/ATP-Appoints-Brad-Drewett.aspx)

[RoastLamb]

From the ATP website: BRAD DREWETT APPOINTED ATP EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN AND PRESIDENT (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2011/12/Features/ATP-Appoints-Brad-Drewett.aspx)

Jon Wertheim's take on the new appointment. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/jon_wertheim/12/22/drewett.atp/index.html)

[cazza99]

A couple of articles on the ATP website/Deuce by Matt Fitzgerald.

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/DEUCE-Tennis/DEUCE-Australian-Open-2012/Kei-Nishikori.aspx)- Counting On Kei

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/DEUCE-Tennis/DEUCE-Australian-Open-2012/Alex-Bogomolov-Jr.aspx)- Bogie's Big Adventure

[Sallydaisy]

It's going to be a quiet week...
There are no ATP main tour events because all is set aside for Davis Cup R1 ties across all groups.

[Ace!]

Just want to take this moment to say http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/0012.gif to Djokovic on receiving the Laureus World Sportsman of the Year award after his remarkable 2011! http://smileys.sur-la-toile.com/repository/Respect/bravo-encouragements-994.gif

[karanga]

Congratulations to Novak on receiving the World Laureus Sportsman of the Year award - well deserved. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[JAMES4578]

Yes really glad Nole got it, well done!!:cheer: Highlights are on Sky 1 at 10 pm- Thursday for those who can view.

[Fina]

He'll be aiming to win it four times to match Roger!

[Katie]

Congratulations to Novak! :cheer: He really deserves this award, what he achieved last year was amazing.

[RoastLamb]

He certainly deserved it. I loved all his tweets about it too.

[VamosVixs]

Well deserved! :clap:

[ljs]

http://sports.ndtv.com/tennis/news/item/185179-fernando-gonzalez-announces-his-retirement-plans :sad: always loved watching that forehand of his

[Ace!]

not sure if this is the right place to put this..

From Andy
"I'm not saying I'm going to win 16 Grand Slams, but if I can get a few then you can be remembered in the same breath as those guys(Fed, Nadal, Nole) - you had those great matches; you won Slams in the same time as them."

This tells me everything, about what Andy wants for himself
1 He wants to be in the history books
2 He wants to be seen as a great player, not just a good one
3 He wants to win Slams while Fed, Nadal, Nole are at the top of their game!
4 To tell his grandkids he fought against the very best and WON:trophy:

[-J-]

not sure if this is the right place to put this..

From Andy
"I'm not saying I'm going to win 16 Grand Slams, but if I can get a few then you can be remembered in the same breath as those guys(Fed, Nadal, Nole) - you had those great matches; you won Slams in the same time as them."

This tells me everything, about what Andy wants for himself
1 He wants to be in the history books
2 He wants to be seen as a great player, not just a good one
3 He wants to win Slams while Fed, Nadal, Nole are at the top of their game!
4 To tell his grandkids he fought against the very best and WON:trophy:heard that the other day, he just needs that first one then who knows

[Ace!]

http://sports.ndtv.com/tennis/news/item/185179-fernando-gonzalez-announces-his-retirement-plans :sad: always loved watching that forehand of his

What a sad way to exit from the game you love.... back door!
This is why i dont understand why players dont retire when at the top of their games! yes it's tricky, difficult to end while playing well, but, YOU have to take a look at your age,your body. what you have done so far......then say, Good career, been all over the world winning titles time to move on with life!

[JAMES4578]

Real pity that Gozo has now called it a day as I found him exciting to watch, though fitness has been suspect lately. Think finding the perfect timing is difficult for many, when they think they can achieve more but of course it can go pear shaped by a certain stage of their career.

[-J-]

might just be me but i would squeez every last drop out of my carear if i was a sportman, beets working for a livig

[RoastLamb]

might just be me but i would squeez every last drop out of my carear if i was a sportman, beets working for a livig

I think that's EXACTLY why they do it. Marat Safin always said he didn't want end up being a coach in a sports club teaching snotty kids how to play. (Not that there's anything wrong with that but I can see what he means.)

[Linda]

Really sad to hear that Gonzo' retiring, but I've been expecting it :sad:

[Alis]

So sorry to see Gonzo go - he was certainly good entertainment value.

[KnightOwl]

Me too - I have a soft spot for him, as he played in the first match I ever saw live at Wimbledon - but even despite that, he was always great to watch - so much energy!

[cazza99]

USOpen.org @usopen

USTA and Emirates Airline launch landmark partnership for US Open and US Open Series bit.ly/zgj1n2 #EAUSOS

http://www.emiratesusopenseries.com/USTA_and_Emirates_Airline_launch_landmark_partners hip_for_US_Open_and_US_Open_Series/

[cazza99]

tennis.com (http://tennis.com/ticker/index.aspx)- Querrey splits with coach, hires Gilbert

[Alis]

tennis.com (http://tennis.com/ticker/index.aspx)- Querrey splits with coach, hires Gilbert

That's interesting!

[Sallydaisy]

IVAN LJUBICIC TO RETIRE .....

From (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/03/Features/Ljubicic-Set-To-Retire.aspx) the ATP website:

Ivan Ljubicic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/L360.aspx) announced today that he will retire from the ATP World Tour after competing in the Monte-Carlo Rolex Masters (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Monte-Carlo.aspx) in April.

The Croat, who will turn 33 on 19 March, has been ranked as high as No. 3 on the South African Airways ATP Rankings. He also won the Davis Cup for Croatia in 2005, a bronze medal in doubles with Mario Ancic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/A385.aspx) at the 2004 Athens Olympics and 10 career singles titles, the biggest coming at the BNP Paribas Open (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Tournaments/Indian-Wells.aspx) in Indian Wells in 2010 when he beat Novak Djokovic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/D643.aspx), Rafael Nadal (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/N409.aspx) and Andy Roddick (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/R485.aspx).

Ljubicic was also elected to the ATP Player Council, serving six years from 2002-08 (the last two as President) and to the Board of Directors in 2008. “It’s never an easy decision for any professional athlete to retire,” said Ljubicic.

“I look forward to the next stage of my life. Tennis has given me so much and I want to continue to stay involved and contribute in some ways.”

[JAMES4578]

Pity that Ivan is retiring, but think he's had a good career.

[cazza99]

Tennis Space (http://www.thetennisspace.com/off-court/ljubicic-exclusive-ive-got-more-to-offer-tennis/) -Ljubicic exclusive: "I've got more to offer tennis"

[Sallydaisy]

From Matt Cronin on twitter:


BREAKING: 2013 will be the last year of San Jose ATP tournament.
Memphis to stay & become 250, Rio new tourney to start in 2014

[Fina]

From Matt Cronin on twitter:

Oh that's sad. The place where Andy won his first ATP title and that famous kiss with Kim - and Andy mentioned its significance in the Frost interview only recently.
Life moves on...

[cazza99]

Tennis Space (http://www.thetennisspace.com/opinion/five-observations-about-david-goffin/) - Five observations about David Goffin

[Linda]

After being away forever with injuries, Tommy Robredo is back! He got a wildcard into a challenger in Italy this week, and has won his first match :)

[DaveArneRiise]

Toomy Robredo is back playing again. Currently playing a challenger. Won his first match. Good to see him back.

[Linda]

:rolling: you just repeated the previous post

As you say, good to see him back.

[supergran]

So Tommy is back...twice!! Thanks. I like him. I also like Tommy Haas. Two Tommies.;)

[Linda]

Tommy beat Bautista-Agut 4-6 7-6 6-3 and is currently on court against Viola. He took the first set 6-4 but is 2-5 in the 2nd. Live scores (http://www.protennislive.com/framesetperpc.asp?lang=en&ref=www.atpworldtour.com) Wow there is even a live stream (http://www.e-tennis.tv/)

[Linda]

. . . and Tommy won 6-4 2-6 6-4 :cheer:

[Linda]

. . . and Tommy won the tournament! :cheer: :yahoo: :trophy:

[JAMES4578]

Pleased for Tommy, well done!

[Alis]

Baker, Goffin, Golding, Goodall, Haas, Hewitt, Ward have wild cards for Wimbledon.

............. and on the women's side Robson: - Watson (if not in MD), Broady, Moore, Murray, Konta, Barty, Shvedova

Doubles - Delgado/Skupski

Baltacha/Keothavong, Broady/Konta, Moore/South, Robson/Watson

[-J-]

see Roddick has a WC for eastbourne, or is this auld news

[supergran]

To some it will be and to others it won't but information will always help someone.:shades::barmy:

[-J-]

To some it will be and to others it won't but information will always help someone.:shades::barmy:what about someone who already knew :eek:

[pabbers]

what about someone who already knew :eek:

Well as SG has posted elsewhere, at her age, a reminder is always useful...............:getcoat:

[supergran]

:confused:Did I? Thanks for reminding me.:thanks:

[supergran]

Stop Press. Kohlschrieber defeated Rafa 6-3, 6-4.

[david1610]

Not sure if this can go here (if not, mods please move) but I think we can get an idea of what Dolgopolov has on HIS iPod!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrNtbgS_bU&feature=youtu.be

Unexpected talents!

[ChrisMac]

Not sure if this can go here (if not, mods please move) but I think we can get an idea of what Dolgopolov has on HIS iPod!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrNtbgS_bU&feature=youtu.be

Unexpected talents!

Rubbish!!

[RFS]

Not sure if this can go here (if not, mods please move) but I think we can get an idea of what Dolgopolov has on HIS iPod!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrNtbgS_bU&feature=youtu.be

Unexpected talents!
Oh dear me... I mean I LOVE that song, but.... Oh dear me!

[Sallydaisy]

Not sure if this can go here (if not, mods please move) but I think we can get an idea of what Dolgopolov has on HIS iPod!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIrNtbgS_bU&feature=youtu.be

Unexpected talents!
Hi David

Per your post we moved Dolly to the ATP General thread as it's not quite 'news' and we don't yet have a thread entitled "tennis players song club".

Although perhaps we should?

Bryan Bros? Caro Woz? Andy's Autograph rap? Those cringy but funny clips the Jenson Bros used to do from the broom cupboard at Roland Garros???
:eek:

[cazza99]

US Today (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/tennis/story/2012-08-29/nick-bollettieri-still-going-at-80-still-not-going-to-hall-of-fame/56189202/1)- Nick Bollettieri still going, still controversial, at 80

[Sallydaisy]

ATP Challenger events - W/C 16/7/12
Jamie Baker and Alex Bogdanovic in Binghamton
Richard Bloomfield in Granby
Dan Cox came through Qualifying in Recanati - he plays Jaziri in R1

Challenger Livescores (http://www.protennislive.com/framesetperpc.asp?lang=en&ref=www.atpworldtour.com)



Location
Surface
Prize
Draw


An-Ning (http://atp2012.anning.sunssports.com), China
Clay
$50,000
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6572/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6572/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6572/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6572/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6572/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6572/op.pdf)


Binghamton (http://binghamtonchallenger.com), NY, U.S.A.
Hard
$50,000
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/670/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/670/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/670/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/670/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/670/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/670/op.pdf)


Granby (http://www.challengergranby.ca), Canada
Hard
$50,000 +H
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/877/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/877/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/877/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/877/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/877/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/877/op.pdf)


Penza (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tournaments/Challenger-Tour.aspx#), Russia
Hard
$50,000
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3468/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3468/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3468/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3468/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3468/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/3468/op.pdf)


Bercuit (http://www.sdaopen.com), Belgium
Clay
€42,500
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6574/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6574/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6574/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6574/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6574/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/6574/op.pdf)


Poznan (http://www.poznanporscheopen.pl), Poland http://www.atpworldtour.com/Media/tretorn_seriesplus.gif
Clay
€30,000 +H
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/786/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/786/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/786/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/786/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/786/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/786/op.pdf)


Recanati (http://www.atprecanati.com), Italy
Hard
€30,000 +H
Combo (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/1743/x.pdf) | S (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/1743/mds.pdf) | D (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/1743/mdd.pdf) | QS (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/1743/qs.pdf) | QD (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/1743/qd.pdf) | OOP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/1743/op.pdf)

[Sallydaisy]

Jamie Baker being given the run around a bit by Christian Harrison, younger brother of Ryan..
The American has a good game and is forcing errors from Bakes.

[Jan]

Jamie just saved SP and broke back for 5-5

[Sallydaisy]

And held for 6-5. Good for him!

[Sallydaisy]

Wahey, Jamie Baker takes the first set 7'5.
Go Bakes!

[Jan]

and he takes the set 7-5 :clap:

[Jan]

Jamie dropped serve in the opening game of the second set, but has just broken back

edit: Jamie lost the second set on a TB

into the 3rd

[Jan]

Jamie is *4-1 up in the 3rd

edit: and he won the 3rd 6-2 :cheer:
very well fought Jamie!

[Sallydaisy]

Well done Jamie Baker!!!!!
What a toughie for him to come through.
:clap:

[Jan]

Hope Boggo can do well - not staying up for his match!!

[cazza99]

Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters

James Blake upsets Harrison. Wow. Didn't realize Blake is a new dad. Here he is with his baby pic.twitter.com/TGxFpkWS
https://p.twimg.com/AyDjjLpCMAEnhhe.jpg
picture from twitter

[Sallydaisy]

Post wedding piccy of Baggy ...........
:laugh:

http://www.tennis.com/articles/articlefiles/18834-619459609.jpg


From www.tennis.com
http://www.tennis.com/articles/articlefiles/18834-619459609.jpg

[ljs]

lineswoman charged with murder http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/08/referee-charged-murdering-husband/38953/#.UDSKDVJLRbI

[Linda]

Interesting article on Juan Monaco (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/DEUCE-Tennis/DEUCE-US-Open-2012/Juan-Monaco.aspx)on the ATP website. (We don't seem to have a thread for him - I looked, but couldn't find one.)

[Sallydaisy]

Despite various meetings being held behind "closed doors" rumours* are emerging about changes to the ATP Calendar from 2014 onwards. There have been various tweets

Seems the Paris Masters is likely to be moved to February. The WTF will take place earlier than now - probably straight after the Far East swing in October. After the WTF there is potentially a new series of tournaments to be held in South America but none will be mandatories.

As already noted Wimbledon is willing to move back a week so there is a 3-week gap between the 2 Grand Slams in Paris and London.

So far no news on whether the WTF will stay in London after 2013 when the contract expires.

* based on the following

Yannick Cochennec ‏@YCochennec (https://twitter.com/YCochennec) New ATP calendar in 2014. Paris Bercy in February. http://www.marca.com/2012/08/26/tenis/1345972504.html (http://t.co/CLpgnr9N)


Yannick Cochennec ‏@YCochennec (https://twitter.com/YCochennec) If the Marca information is confirmed (Masters 1000 Paris in Feb 2014), does that mean no tourney in 2013? Probably. http://www.marca.com/2012/08/26/tenis/1345972504.html (http://t.co/CLpgnr9N)



That nice Mr Harman is concerned too much is being said on twitter:

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes (https://twitter.com/NeilHarmanTimes) @AndyMurrayFans (https://twitter.com/AndyMurrayFans) I fear you may have jumped the gun, at least according to the ATP officials on site at Flushing

[RoastLamb]

Interesting article about the life of a tennis player not in the top 100. (http://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/diminishing-returns-when-you-play-in-the-red-zone-20120827-24wmm.html) Written by Aussie Sam Groth. Sobering.

[cazza99]

Article about Ancic

New York Times (http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/09/07/former-tennis-star-makes-a-mark-at-columbia-law-school/) - Former Tennis Star Makes a Mark at Columbia Law School

[cazza99]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/09/Feature/ATP-Board-Approves-Change-In-Time-Violation-Penalty.aspx) - ATP Board Approves Change In Time Violation Penalty

[cazza99]

ATP World Tour ‏@ATPWorldTour

Former #ATP World No. 1 #Ferrero announces today he will retire after @valencia_open next month.


Also there is a change to the ATP rules. There is a thread set up for discussion http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1396-ATP-approves-time-violation-penalty-and-quot-no-let-quot-serve-trial&p=101488#post101488

[hfwardhouse]

Jurgen Melzer and Iveta Benesova got married!


Its Mr. & Mrs. Melzer (@IvetaBenesova & @jojomelzer) #Laxenburg pic.twitter.com/ALv7NhXd (https://twitter.com/MisaKrajicek/status/246635123561345025/photo/1)

[pabbers]

Awww doesn't she look FAB??!!

[RoastLamb]

They both do!

[pabbers]

They both do!

Yes he scrubs up well!

[cazza99]

Tennis Space (http://www.thetennisspace.com/five-things-about-martin-klizan/) - Five things about Martin Klizan

[Sallydaisy]

Just a note to remind peeps that if they want to check ATP Rankings you'll need to click on the top header in the list. The ATP, in their wisdom, now have the RACE RANKINGS as their default which isn't relevant to player entry lists and seedings.

One or two journalists have been caught out by quoting wrong information and it's also affected a tennis tournament in the UK.

From twitter:

Steven ‏@GBtennis (https://twitter.com/GBtennis) I don't think it's a good idea that after the USO, the ATP now bring up the race rankings as a default if you click "Rankings" on their site


.. I know they flag it but clearly not well enough - so many race positions reported as if they were actual rankings in articles this week

Rob Smith ‏@RobSmith_1 (https://twitter.com/RobSmith_1) @GBtennis (https://twitter.com/GBtennis) interesting you say that as some of the boys here at the Wrexham BT are complaining about Race rankings being used for seedings.
You'd think the LTA would KNOW!!!
:rolleyes:

[pabbers]

You'd think the LTA would KNOW!!!
:rolleyes: :whistle:

[Sallydaisy]

Update on Gael Monfils:


Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) After all the buzz, Chamagne now backing off, saying Monfils is fine
and will resume training at end of week. Knee on treatment. #...
Monfils is now said to play Stockholm, Valence and Bercy.
With a knee on treatment.
"Le tout sous anti-inflammatoire" - I read that as playing with anti-inflammatories!!!

[cazza99]

10sballs (http://www.10sballs.com/2012/10/10/rainer-schuettler-retires-as-player-and-becomes-tournament-operator/) - Rainer Schuettler Retires As Player And Becomes Tournament Operator

[Sallydaisy]

Tommy Haas back in the top 20!
:thumbup:

@SI_BTBaseline (https://twitter.com/SI_BTBaseline): For the first time since May 2010, Tommy Haas is back into the Top 20.
What a year.

[cazza99]

Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters

It's official: Mardy Fish is done for the season, puled out Basel and now Bercy/Paris Masters. Still dealing with heart trouble.

[JAMES4578]

Hope Mardy will be ok for next season, obviously best not to take any risk.

[Sallydaisy]

Sergei Bubka Jnr suffers multiple injuries in fall.


Amy Fetherolf ‏@AmyFetherolf (https://twitter.com/AmyFetherolf) Story here: http://dsdispatch.me/Q94jXV (http://t.co/38WOPV8i) RT @MariyaKTennis (https://twitter.com/MariyaKTennis):
Sergey Bubka Jr, Ukrainian player & Azarenka's boyfriend fell from 3rd floor in Paris.

[cazza99]

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/9649383/Sergei-Bubka-Jnr-son-of-pole-vaulting-great-seriously-injured-in-fall-from-third-floor-of-Paris-apartment.html) - Sergei Bubka Jnr, son of pole vaulting great, seriously injured in fall from third floor of Paris apartment

[supergran]

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/9649383/Sergei-Bubka-Jnr-son-of-pole-vaulting-great-seriously-injured-in-fall-from-third-floor-of-Paris-apartment.html) - Sergei Bubka Jnr, son of pole vaulting great, seriously injured in fall from third floor of Paris apartmentRead that on twitter. Terrible. So many young people having accidents like this.

[JAMES4578]

Very sad news, just hope Sergei will be ok.

[Linda]

James Blake got married! (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/11/Features/Blake-Leaves-Singles-Ranks.aspx)

[Sallydaisy]

It's obviously the wedding season for tennis players ...........

Matt Ebden was married earlier this month and Mike Bryan is also wed over the weekend.
Report on the ATP website.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/11/Features/Ebden-Marries-In-Western-Australia.aspx?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

[cazza99]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2012/11/Features/Bubka-Back-On-His-Feet.aspx?utm_source=ATPMailing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ATP%20World%20Tour%20Insider%20#48%20-%20November%2029%202012%20%281%29)- Bubka Back On His Feet Again


Sergei Bubka is making positive strides on the road to recovery - already standing and almost walking - after sustaining multiple fractures in a three-story fall earlier this month.

[cazza99]

tennis.com (http://www.tennis.com/news/2012/12/sunset-skinny-one/45594/#.UL9MP2efaw4)- Sunset for the Skinny One
Chela is retiring

[Sallydaisy]

Today sees the start of 2 new Rules agreed by the ATP competitions committee last year.
See full details here. (http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=114868#post114868)

TIME VIOLATIONS
From 2013, on both the ATP World Tour and ATP Challenger Tour, a time violation between points (25 seconds) will be penalised in the first instance with a warning. For the second and all subsequent violations, the penalty will be a fault for the server and a point penalty for the receiver.

Currently, the rule is a warning and then point penalty for both the server and receiver.

NO-LET TRIAL
The ATP Board also approved a trial elimination of the service let on the ATP Challenger Tour only, for the first three months of 2013.

It'll be interesting to see how the first of these new rules is actioned.
Apparently, there's been some instances already today where it's been carried out.
Robredo just got called on it and Davy/hanescu (likely Hanescu) were warned about it in their doubles match.

[Linda]

Although someone has reported on another forum that Dodig was taking 30 seconds in his match and wasn't called on it - so I guess it will still be up to the umpire. (nb what is the difference between a fault and a point penalty?)

[Sallydaisy]

Although someone has reported on another forum that Dodig was taking 30 seconds in his match and wasn't called on it - so I guess it will still be up to the umpire. (nb what is the difference between a fault and a point penalty?)
I'm sure it'll still be inconsistent ..... umpire's aren't robots! But they do all have stop watches.
I hope it'll start to sort things out since the players clearly feel it's needed.

I think the difference is as follows:-
If a player is serving and has already been warned then he'll get a fault the 2nd time.
If that's on his first serve he'll automatically only get his 2nd serve.
So, he's got (a) chance to put his timing right and (b) not lost the point completely.
If it's on his 2nd serve he'd automatically lose the point but not as a point penalty that time.
If the server gets another time violation then he'd get a point penalty straightaway.

For the returner it's a warning first and then a point penalty.

Originally both server/returner got a warning and then a point penalty. It seems the players themselves have come up with the new option but I've not found any reports on why they think it will work better.

[Linda]

Well, I saw the new rules in action yesterday and it wasn't nice. I was watching the Lopez-Kubot match. Feli had already had one warning for time violation, although he didn't seem to be taking a long time to serve (and I don't think he is normally an offender in this respect). Then when he was at the baseline preparing to serve at 5-6 0-40 the ump said 'time violation Mr Lopez. 2nd serve'. Feli argued with the ump saying he was already starting his service action and was not over time but the ump wouldn't change his mind (of course they never do, something Feli has never learned in all of his years of arguing with umpires). It didn't seem fair to me - considering it was set point and he wasn't going to be more than a second over time. People on other boards are pointing out that there is no visible clock so the player doesn't know at what point the ump has set his watch, so doesn't know precisely when the time will be up. I think they're going to have to look at this again.

[Sallydaisy]

Apparently Monfils came in for a time violation today and he was not at all happy about it.

The players are going to really feel it in a Grand Slam and 5-set match because a few of them use a bit of extra time between points to cool down after a long rally or in the heat as in Oz. If they're going to stick this they probably need to have either a longer change of ends (in certain tournaments) and/or agree a longer time e.g. 30secs rather than 20secs.

And what happens if one of them notices a broken string just as the guy the other is about to serve?
How do they 'stop the clock' and allow for a racquet change.

Without a clock on court the players have no way of knowing what the umpire expects.

[pabbers]

Surely there'll still be umpire's discretion because they're often a bit more lenient after a long point or in a long match.

[Linda]

According to Twitter, Dimitrov is now dating Sharapova!

[RoastLamb]

BagDaddy got a time violation during his semi-final final tb. He tried to incite the crowd to boo the umpire.

[Sallydaisy]

Phillip Petzschner has become a Dad ... congratulations to the family!
:thumbup:

Davis Cup ‏@DavisCup (https://twitter.com/DavisCup) Congratulations Philipp!! RT @Petzsche (https://twitter.com/Petzsche): Hey there I'm Natami Aminah Petzschner!
I'm 54 cm tall and 3740g heavy! pic.twitter.com/iUcRoSVW (http://t.co/iUcRoSVW)

[RoastLamb]

Jesse Levine has decided to play for Canada instead of USA (he was born in Canada but his family left for Florida when he was 13). Hmmmm. I do wonder why. I asked Tennis Canada and they just forwarded me an interview he did with an Ottawa paper but he didn't really give an exact reason. So I asked Fitzy and he said it was coz Jesse wanted to play Davis Cup. Personally I think it's coz he's a small fish in a big pool in the US and over here he'd be a bigger fish in a smaller pool.

[Linda]

Has anyone else looked at the ATP website home page this morning? On my screen it's all jumbled up and no use at all. I'm not having any problems with any other web pages. Is it me or is it them?

ETA - I cleared my cache and it's fine now.

[cazza99]

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/sports/tennis/14iht-tennis14.html?_r=1&)- Chinese Player Breaks New Ground at Australian Open

[cazza99]

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/sports/soccer/16iht-atp16.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0) - ATP Leader to Step Down to Deal With Illness

[JAMES4578]

Sorry to hear the sad news about Brad Drewett.

[RoastLamb]

Yes, that is brutal news. Such a terrible illness.

[cazza99]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/01/Features/ATP-Announces-2014-Calendar.aspx) - ATP Announces 2014 ATP World Tour Calendar

[Sallydaisy]

5-Set match stats ...

Rob Koenig ‏@RobKoenigTennis (https://twitter.com/RobKoenigTennis) Interesting when you look at "Big 4" 5 set career record with
ALL PLAYERS: Nadal 6th, Djokovic 7th, Murray 14th (after today) Fed 94th...


:)

Here's the link.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Reliability-Zone/Reliability-5th-Set-Record-Career-List.aspx (https://twitter.com/RobKoenigTennis)
Of current top 20 players Kohlschreiber is 8th, Cilic 12th and Berdych 16th (after today's Murray win).

[Sallydaisy]

Verdasco has withdrawn from Memphis. It's apparently a neck injury but that's not clear from this information on his Facebook page:

Después de una prueba hoy, tengo que anunciar que no podré jugar en Memphis. Triste por la noticia pero espero estar bien pronto. Gracias por el apoyo.

After a MRI today I've to announce that I'll not be able to play in Memphis. Sad news but hopefully I'll be back soon. Thnx for the support.

He's been replaced by LL Michael Russell in the Memphis draw.

[Linda]

He's out of Acapulco as well :sad:


Fernando Verdasco ‏@FeVerdasco7
Need to announce that I will not be able to play Acapulco either. Bad news again. Now trying to be healthy for Indian wells.

[Sallydaisy]

The current 4 Grand Slam holders will be reunited this week in Indian Wells for the first time since Wimbledon 2012. Federer holds the Wimbledon GS, Murray the USO, Djokovic retained the Australian Open title and Rafa is still the King of Clay with his Roland Garros 2012 GS.

But are they secretly planning a 2nd career as a boy band (http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/2804/57644754847827517390020.jpg)???

[Elenive]

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2013-03-25/201303251364236143881.html

Interesting article about Del Potro as a possible Wimbledon winner this year, written by the same guy who wrote Andy's recent book.

[JAMES4578]

A threat but I can think of another player who I think has a greater chance of becoming a multiple slammer.

[ljs]

who who ???? ;)

[Linda]

Yes James, don't keep us all in suspense! ;)

[Sallydaisy]

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2013-03-25/201303251364236143881.html

Interesting article about Del Potro as a possible Wimbledon winner this year, written by the same guy who wrote Andy's recent book.
That is slightly at odds with reports from the JMDP camp today ... as tweeted by Carole Bouchard of L'Equipe who has done some translating from other tweets in Spanish and been talking to reliable sources.

Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 1h (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/316264394856206338) Del Potro plays on an injured wrist for weeks already.
I really don't get it..Looks like taking lots of risks. Hope it won't end too serious



Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 1h (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/316264632169930753) @raulfiber (https://twitter.com/raulfiber) do we have a link to Del Po's injury ? thanks



Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 1h (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/316265362188541952) @MisterPigz (https://twitter.com/MisterPigz) he was already in pain in Dubaï...
i'm wondering for how long he's playing on this cause was suffering from it end of last year



Mr. Pigz ‏@MisterPigz (https://twitter.com/MisterPigz) 1h (https://twitter.com/MisterPigz/status/316267580295892994) @carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) Did that play a part in his loss at Miami?

@MisterPigz (https://twitter.com/MisterPigz) No idea... He went to the IW finals so... but maybe it got worse...
Del Po's schedule was anyway empty from Miami to Estoril so...
i guess he took a calculated risk to play on this injured wrist.

Raul de Kemmeter ‏@raulfiber (https://twitter.com/raulfiber) 51m (https://twitter.com/raulfiber/status/316275509518557185) @carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) source is team delpo presser.
Full diagnosis: grade 1 sprain of attachments of dorsal radiocarpal & intercarpal ligaments



Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 47m (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/316276647357734913) @raulfiber (https://twitter.com/raulfiber) thanks. it's crazy to me that he went on so long playing on this injury.
hope it won't damage his season.

[Alis]

This must be so very depressing and frustrating for Delpo - just when he seemed to be getting back to where he should be. I don't particularly like his style of tennis but I do feel for him and his fans.

[Linda]

ATP website (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/03/13/Stuttgart-Switches-To-Grass-In-2015.aspx): STUTTGART TO MAKE SWITCH TO GRASS COURTS IN 2015 (their capital letters)

[cazza99]

Chris Goldsmith ‏@TheTennisTalker 18m


Players who have become ATP millionaires in 2013... Sweeting, Lorenzi, De Bakker, Brands, Paire and Dimitrov

[cazza99]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/04/18/Brad-Drewett-Passes-Away.aspx) - Brad Drewett Leaves Lasting Legacy


ATP Executive Chairman & President Brad Drewett passed away earlier today in Sydney following a battle with Motor Neurone Disease (also known as ALS or Lou Gehrig’s Disease).

[Sallydaisy]

Very sad news, he only made his illness public in January and in a short time did a great deal to move things forward at the ATP. There are many messages of condolence from players, journalists and others in the tennis world, on twitter.

[JAMES4578]

Yes very sad news, a great loss!

[cazza99]

Chris Goldsmith ‏@TheTennisTalker 2m


Only 6 players in this weeks ATP top 200 rankings are under 21 years of age, while 51 are in their 30's

[cazza99]

stevegtennis ‏@stevegtennis 3m


Check this out.. http://bit.ly/11HhEXG #tennis #talent #boxoffice #monfils

[RoastLamb]

Not sure where to put this but I just read on tennis.com that Stepanek is divorcing Vaidisova after three years of marriage and is going out with Petra Kvitova. :shocked: For an ugly dude he sure gets around!!!

[JAMES4578]

Maybe shouldn't be too surprised,heard someone saying Vadisova wasn't too old for a comeback but wonder if her heart would be in it now.

[david1610]

Maybe shouldn't be too surprised,heard someone saying Vadisova wasn't too old for a comeback but wonder if her heart would be in it now.
Are you talking about her tennis or her relationship? ......

[JAMES4578]

Her tennis actually lol!

[cazza99]

:rolling:

[cazza99]

BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/23099136)- Sergiy Stakhovsky: the man who beat Federer at Wimbledon 2013

[cazza99]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/07/28/Newport-Thursday-Karlovic-Health.aspx) - Karlovic: "I Didn't Know My Name"

[david1610]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/07/28/Newport-Thursday-Karlovic-Health.aspx) - Karlovic: "I Didn't Know My Name"
I had not realised this... poor guy!

[cazza99]

A little more on Karlovic

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/sports/tennis/mysterious-illness-resolved-karlovic-is-a-winner-again.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0)- Mysterious Illness Resolved, Karlovic Is a Winner Again

[david1610]

A little more on Karlovic

New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/22/sports/tennis/mysterious-illness-resolved-karlovic-is-a-winner-again.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0)- Mysterious Illness Resolved, Karlovic Is a Winner Again
So pleased for him. One of the gentlemen on the tour - always loved the twitter exchanges between him and Judy!

[Linda]

Yes, he is one of the best players to follow on Twitter! Glad he's got over his illness.

[Linda]

Troicki has been banned for 18 months for refusing to give a blood sample in Monte Carlo! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

[Hawkeye]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-2378271/Viktor-Troicki-suspended-failure-provide-blood-sample-drugs-test.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

[JAMES4578]

A real blow for Troicki but suppose he only has himself to blame.

[xenon21]

.RT @stu_fraser: Serbia's Viktor Troicki suspended for 18 months after committing anti-doping rule violation by failing to provide blood sample in MonteCarlo

I doubt much blood is needed for a sample so really questioning Troicki refusing to give sample as unwell. Urgh! Did not expect this

[Alis]

Not good news for the sport I'm afraid - particularly in view of what has been happening in athletics recently.

[pabbers]

:shocked:

He might almost as well retire..........

[cazza99]

BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/23459655) - Viktor Troicki banned for 18 months for doping violation

If he was too ill to go somewhere for a blood test (assuming they have to travel somewhere to do this), I don't know why someone couldn't have gone to him to take blood.

[cazza99]

Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters 5m

Official reason why Troicki isn't forfeiting money/points for tournaments after Monte Carlo (where he allegedly refused blood test) is...

...because there are 'no automatic ‘subsequent disqualification’ for refusal cases.

[cazza99]

Ben Rothenberg ‏@BenRothenberg 18m

I'm not saying I think Troicki deserved no sanctioning, but that his refusal was significantly mitigated. Expect ban will shorten on appeal.

Another baffling aspect is that ITF let Troicki keep playing after his refusal, including two slams. If refusal that bad, shouldn't happen.

Last Troicki thought: if player refuses test, DCO should *immediately* call supervisor and have consequences made crystal clear to player.


Ben Rothenberg ‏@BenRothenberg 2m

RT @SailV: Anyway #Troicki later did the blood test, but we don't know the exacte date, from 1 to 3 days later and he wans't find positive

[cazza99]

Jon Wertheim ‏@jon_wertheim 4m

This didn't take long. Troicki: "The doctor in charge of the testing told me..I could skip the test if I wrote an explanation letter to ITF"

troicki: "I am destroyed and exhausted...I put my trust in the Court of Arbitration of Sports." ("Yes for sure" he is appealing)


Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters 2s

"Troicki said he spoke 2 Djokovic who “is sure it will end good because I am innocent, and that ATP should really back me up with this.”

[xenon21]

The problem with a blood test taken 1 to 3 days later is that say if he was taking any drugs they could be out of the system by then so IMO that negative blood test taken later doesn't automatically prove innocence

Don't know what to make of this really. Could be ITF or Troicki at fault or both

[pabbers]

Don't think such behaviour (if true) on the part of the ITF in not fully explaining the position to Troicki at the time would hold up in a court of law - I know that's not the situation here but if he's going to appeal I'd think that has to be taken into account. How can you allow someone to end up in such a position without informing them of the full facts/risks? A doctor would be negligent in not explaining all the risks to a patient before carrying out a procedure if that procedure had a bad outcome for the patient. Whatever Troicki's reasons for refusing, if his appeal is successful I'm sure he'll make sure in future that he knows exactly what the rules are and that he complies with them to the letter and if he doesn't then it's definitely going to be his own fault. As things stand IMHO he ought to be given the benefit of the doubt but whether that happens or not, this will serve as a warning to other players of the potential consequences of refusal. Just a pity it couldn't have been done sensibly.

[Linda]

Here is what Troicki has to say about it:

http://tennisconnected.com/home/2013/07/25/viktor-troicki-responds-to-suspension-announcement/

[traveller7]

Just read about this.
I agree that someone should of informed him of possible outcomes and /or they should of gone to him if he was unwell to take a test as a test days after is negligible most if not all drugs would of been passed through system by then.
An 18 month ban does seem harsh, but tennis as a sport is hot on this kind of thing as all sports should be.
I hope its all sorted quickly and he is innocent for his and the sports sake.

[Steven]

I found this whole situation quite baffling until I read the full transcript of the tribunal's decision this morning, which is at http://bit.ly/13h92Xq

I have a similar extreme needle phobia and can imagine (especially if I was already feeling ill) rational thought completely going out the window in the blind panic such things induce in me (even writing about this makes me feel a bit nauseous), leading me to wishfully clutch at any hint that it might be ok to avoid the test even if it was far from a complete assurance, or even if the hint was not really any kind of assurance at all.

So I suspect the tribunal's best guess as to what really occurred may be right (i.e. that he wasn't told that his illness was enough to allow him to miss the test but convinced himself that he had been) and it is hard to see how they could have let him off without creating loopholes for real cheats to exploit. But I also feel desperately sorry for Viktor.

Feeling sorry for him does of course assume that he wasn't doping and trying to avoid the test for that reason, but the phobia coupled with illness could easily be enough to explain the panic/irrationality aspect in my opinion, so I certainly wouldn't assume that him not taking the test is automatic proof that he had something to hide.

On the other hand, if the doctor was as experienced as is claimed, surely she should have been aware of the way people with an extreme phobia can react and made it absolutely clear to him that it wasn't acceptable to miss the test rather than leaving any room at all for doubt, however irrational that doubt might have been.

I am not saying she had an absolute responsibility to do this (and it's the kind of thing you might expect an inexperienced doctor to fail to understand), but after 15 years working in that area, you would think she would have known what might be going on in his head, have known the consequences of missing the test and have made sure he fully understood the situation. i.e. I'm not saying that I believe she made it clear that it was ok to miss the test (I think that was probably genuine wishful thinking on his part generated by the irrationality brought on by the needle phobia and exacerbated by the illness, since it makes no sense that it would be ok to miss it), but I do think she should have made it 100% clear to Viktor that it definitely wasn't ok and it is pretty clear even from her own statements that she did not do that.

[Mickey]

Feeling ill is no reason for not having a small amount of blood taken.Patients in hospital who probably feel far worse than Victor have often to have daily blood tests. I know he gave urine, but there are more things found in a blood test than in a urine test. So I have no sympathy for him, it is important that blood tests are taken regularly, and no excuses from the players as to why they can't have it taken.

[rouges]

Vicktor has been in Tennis long enough to know better. Brought it upon himself, suppose he had needed an emergency blood transfusion, would he have declined ? I don't think so.

[Sallydaisy]

... and now Cilic!!! Too much to type so read on Carole Bouchard Twitter.


Amy Fetherolf ‏@AmyFetherolf (https://twitter.com/AmyFetherolf) 1h (https://twitter.com/AmyFetherolf/status/360860217711394817) If it's credible, this Croatian site is reporting that Cilic failed a doping test in Munich. http://www.24sata.hr/tenis/jako-lose-vijesti-iz-labaratorija-marin-cilic-pao-na-doping-testu-325656 … (http://t.co/FCxpRRDlCH)


Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 1h (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/360862140543942658) Any croatian speaker out there who could translate the Cilic thing ? Thanks


Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 1h (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/360863987493122048) @suboticjelena (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena) 3 months seem indeed very light. Issue is going to be if ban was kept secret... Gosh gosh gosh


Jelena Subotic ‏@suboticjelena (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena) 1h (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena/status/360863459769987073) @carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) It's all in @radosko (https://twitter.com/radosko) tl. Only to add this is his own interview with the paper not 2nd hand


Jelena Subotic ‏@suboticjelena (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena) 1h (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena/status/360863737252552704) @carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) lenient penalty bc traces in glucose were minimal, it was something he ate (doesn't say what)


Jelena Subotic ‏@suboticjelena (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena) 1h (https://twitter.com/suboticjelena/status/360864358907125760) @carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) And Wimbledon withdrawal was related to this not injury
Retweeted by Carole Bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard)

[david1610]

I read the Troiki hearing report (thank you Steven).
Not happy with the result. I think a stern warning or six months would have been reasonable plus mandatory testing at every event he enters for x months.

PS Cilic http://www.changeovertennis.com/report-marin-cilic-failed-doping-test-in-munich/?utm_campaign=report-marin-cilic-failed-doping-test-in-munich&utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss

the Serb gets 18 months (for not taking a drugs test), Cilic according to that article gets three months (for failing a drugs test).
One thing is for sure - this won't exactly improve Serb-Croatian relations! If Cilic plays the USO and gets drawn against Nole or Tipsy, better make sure it is not on a tiny outside court as the rival fans could get quite heated!

[cazza99]

The Slice (http://the-slice.com/2013/07/baghdatis-shares-family-photos/)- Baghdatis Shares Family Photos
Awwww

[RoastLamb]

The Slice (http://the-slice.com/2013/07/baghdatis-shares-family-photos/)- Baghdatis Shares Family Photos
Awwww

Most adorable photos ever. I think she takes after him. Lovely.

[cazza99]

Tennis Space (http://www.thetennisspace.com/goran-ivanisevic-exclusive-how-to-smash-a-racket/) - Goran Ivanisevic exclusive: How to smash a racket

[cazza99]

Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/jul/30/marin-cilic-tennis-drug-test) - Marin Cilic claims his failed drug test is due to high glucose levels

[Linda]

From the above article,
Brett said the ATP should follow the example of the WTA Tour, which employs a company, Usana Health Sciences, to provide "clean" supplements. Any player who subsequently fails a test due to one of these products is entitled to compensation of twice her current annual salary, up to $1m. So why don't the ATP do the same?

[cazza99]

ATP (http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/07/31/Emirates-Stars-Of-Tomorrow-Vasek-Pospisil.aspx)- Vasek Pospisil's New Approach

[Sallydaisy]

ATP Singles Top 20 as of today*. The Race to London rankings are on the WTF discussion thread (http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?2172-BARCLAYS-ATP-WORLD-TOUR-FINALS-Mon-4th-Mon-11th-November-2013.-Tournament-thread-Information&p=156962#post156962).

As you can see Andy is still ahead of David Ferrer but only by 210 points!!!
Despite his heroics in New York Wowrinka remains at Swiss #2 being 1500 points behind Federer who is now #6 but only just with 90 more points than Del Potro at #7.

There could yet be some changes in the rankings before the year end.




Rank, Name & Nationality
Points
Week Change


1 Djokovic, Novak (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Novak-Djokovic.aspx) (SRB)
10,980 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Novak-Djokovic.aspx?t=rb)
0


2 Nadal, Rafael (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx) (ESP)
10,860 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rafael-Nadal.aspx?t=rb)
0


3 Murray, Andy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx) (GBR)
7,060 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Andy-Murray.aspx?t=rb)
0


4 Ferrer, David (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/David-Ferrer.aspx) (ESP)
6,850 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/David-Ferrer.aspx?t=rb)
0


5 Berdych, Tomas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tomas-Berdych.aspx) (CZE)
4,535 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tomas-Berdych.aspx?t=rb)
0


6 Federer, Roger (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Roger-Federer.aspx) (SUI)
4,515 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Roger-Federer.aspx?t=rb)
1


7 Del Potro, Juan Martin (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.aspx) (ARG)
4,425 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.aspx?t=rb)
-1


8 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jo-Wilfried-Tsonga.aspx) (FRA)
3,425 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jo-Wilfried-Tsonga.aspx?t=rb)
0


9 Gasquet, Richard (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Richard-Gasquet.aspx) (FRA)
3,165 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Richard-Gasquet.aspx?t=rb)
0


10 Wawrinka, Stanislas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx) (SUI)
3,150 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Stanislas-Wawrinka.aspx?t=rb)
0


11 Raonic, Milos (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Milos-Raonic.aspx) (CAN)
2,555 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Milos-Raonic.aspx?t=rb)
0


12 Nishikori, Kei (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Kei-Nishikori.aspx) (JPN)
2,325 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Kei-Nishikori.aspx?t=rb)
0


13 Haas, Tommy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tommy-Haas.aspx) (GER)
2,265 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tommy-Haas.aspx?t=rb)
0


14 Janowicz, Jerzy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jerzy-Janowicz.aspx) (POL)
2,110 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jerzy-Janowicz.aspx?t=rb)
0


15 Isner, John (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/John-Isner.aspx) (USA)
2,025 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/John-Isner.aspx?t=rb)
2


16 Simon, Gilles (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Gilles-Simon.aspx) (FRA)
1,950 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Gilles-Simon.aspx?t=rb)
0


17 Fognini, Fabio (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Fabio-Fognini.aspx) (ITA)
1,945 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Fabio-Fognini.aspx?t=rb)
1


18 Almagro, Nicolas (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Nicolas-Almagro.aspx) (ESP)
1,940 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Nicolas-Almagro.aspx?t=rb)
-3


19 Robredo, Tommy (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tommy-Robredo.aspx) (ESP)
1,890 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tommy-Robredo.aspx?t=rb)
3


20 Youzhny, Mikhail (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Mikhail-Youzhny.aspx) (RUS)
1,825 (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Mikhail-Youzhny.aspx?t=rb)
4




* There's the following note on the ATP page but it doesn't quite make sense because if I add 800 to Rafa's points he has more than Nole so I've left it as above until something is clarified.


Rankings Note: The Emirates ATP Rankings as of Monday, 9 September include all US Open results except the final, which will be played Monday evening. The winner of the final will add 800 points to his total. Novak Djokovic will remain World No. 1 regardless of the outcome of the final.

EDIT - THESE POINTS ARE CORRECT AND INCLUDE THE USO FINAL ONES!

[traveller7]

Yes I thought Rafa would now be no 1 but according to rankings today still no 2?!

[Sallydaisy]

Yes I thought Rafa would now be no 1 but according to rankings today still no 2?!
The ATP page has been edited. The table in my previous post is correct including the USO points.
Very close at the top and Rafa has 0 to defend to the end of the year.

[cazza99]

Tennis Space (http://www.thetennisspace.com/five-things-about-teenager-borna-coric/) - Five things about teenager Borna Coric

[DaveArneRiise]

Cilic has been banned for 9 months for testing positive for banned substance, source BBC.

[cazza99]

BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/24116444) - Marin Cilic: Croatian banned for nine months

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikethamide

[RoastLamb]

The Thomas Druet diaries (http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/the-thomas-drouet-diaries-seven-months-on-the-atp-tour-with-bernard-and-john-tomic/story-fndkzym4-1226719297918?sv=81c5cf5598896081c7db383ff5805226# .UjcV3cHJdOg.twitter) about life training with Bernard Tomic and his dad. What a bunch of jerks the Tomics are. Seriously!!!

[cazza99]

Bleacher/AP (http://bleacherreport.com/tb/dbh3H?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=tennis) - Italy's Coppola gets 6-month ban

[david1610]

The Thomas Druet diaries (http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/the-thomas-drouet-diaries-seven-months-on-the-atp-tour-with-bernard-and-john-tomic/story-fndkzym4-1226719297918?sv=81c5cf5598896081c7db383ff5805226# .UjcV3cHJdOg.twitter) about life training with Bernard Tomic and his dad. What a bunch of jerks the Tomics are. Seriously!!!

It makes you wonder just how many other players treat their entourages badly. Not perhaps on this level, but being at the beck and call of somebody who can fire you in a moment must put so much strain on peple who at first sight appear to have glamorous jobs.

Just hope Tomic Jr. can free himself from dad and then be judged on his own merits. AFter reading this doubt he is up to much as a human being but he probably has to be given the chance.

[Alis]

The Thomas Druet diaries (http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/the-thomas-drouet-diaries-seven-months-on-the-atp-tour-with-bernard-and-john-tomic/story-fndkzym4-1226719297918?sv=81c5cf5598896081c7db383ff5805226# .UjcV3cHJdOg.twitter) about life training with Bernard Tomic and his dad. What a bunch of jerks the Tomics are. Seriously!!!

I actually found reading this article quite disturbing. If even half of it is true, Tomic senior is a really nasty piece of work - the sooner Bernard gets rid of him the better and even then I don't hold out much hope for him!

[cazza99]

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/tennis/10330394/Marin-Cilic-withdrawal-from-Wimbledon-was-part-of-doping-cover-up-says-ITF-anti-doping-tribunal.html)- Marin Cilic withdrawal from Wimbledon was part of doping cover up, says ITF anti-doping tribunal

[david1610]

Swiss roll?
Stan overtaking Roger tomorrow in the race to London
http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Roger-Federer-to-be-overtaken-by-Stanislas-Wawrinka-in-the-Race-to-London-articolo13278.html

[millypops]

Swill roll?
Stan overtaking Roger tomorrow in the race to London
http://www.tennisworldusa.org/Roger-Federer-to-be-overtaken-by-Stanislas-Wawrinka-in-the-Race-to-London-articolo13278.html

Not sure they have got there facts right Stan was beaten in the semi final by Bennauteau, but hopefully Satn will make it to London

[Linda]

Stan has been playing really well this year, he deserves to get there!

[Linda]

Nalbandian has announced his retirement today.

[Linda]

Apparently Malisse has retired as well!

(Surprised there have been no comments about Nalbandian's retirement)

[JAMES4578]

Sorry that Nalbandian and Malisse have now called it a day! Though David had the bigger moments Xavier shone at times.

[Linda]

I have this afternoon seen another problem with the 25 seconds rule. I watched Rafa v Kohli and both were playing quickly, but the ballkids were dreadful. Each time the servers were asking for balls and couldn't get them. Rafa is always very considerate to ballkids, but even he became quite cross. Rafa was given a warning, when he had had to wait for the ballkids to get him the balls. He had a conversation with Fergus Murphy about it. Later, again Rafa had to wait (despite saying, come on, come on) for the balls, but was then given a serve penalty for time. It was absolutely unfair as Rafa had been playing quickly but was kept waiting for the ballkids every time. I expect he will mention it in his presser.

[Linda]

Well, this is really interesting. You remember Sean (Shaun?), who used to be a member here, was hard of hearing so played with deaf ATP. But here is a report of a deaf player on the main tour: http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130927000718

[RoastLamb]

I have this afternoon seen another problem with the 25 seconds rule. I watched Rafa v Kohli and both were playing quickly, but the ballkids were dreadful. Each time the servers were asking for balls and couldn't get them. Rafa is always very considerate to ballkids, but even he became quite cross. Rafa was given a warning, when he had had to wait for the ballkids to get him the balls. He had a conversation with Fergus Murphy about it. Later, again Rafa had to wait (despite saying, come on, come on) for the balls, but was then given a serve penalty for time. It was absolutely unfair as Rafa had been playing quickly but was kept waiting for the ballkids every time. I expect he will mention it in his presser.

I love Rafa but he could maybe think about cutting out some of his ticks and that would also save a bit of time. It drives me nuts seeing him flick at his nose, hair and ears before every single serve. And he could maybe stop bouncing the ball so many times? I don't think it's all the ballkids' fault. Having said that I don't know how he serves so well when the sweat is literally pouring off his head and down his face.

[cazza99]

Well, this is really interesting. You remember Sean (Shaun?), who used to be a member here, was hard of hearing so played with deaf ATP. But here is a report of a deaf player on the main tour: http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20130927000718

I remember Shaun. Apparently its not just the ability not to hear that makes it harder for deaf people to play tennis, but the hearing problems can affect things like balance too.

[Bardot]

Mathias Bourgue update. Since his heroics against Andy at Roland Garros he has lost in the first round of 4 consecutive Challengers and has won only 1 match out of 6 played. Remember his tears after losing to Andy? I wonder if there were any when he lost to Patrik Niklas-Salminen ranked 912 in the first round of Tampere. It's tough out there.

[Sallydaisy]

French player news ...

Carole Bouchard ‏@carole_bouchard (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard) 14m14 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/carole_bouchard/status/764049210672951296)View translation
Thierry Champion nouveau coach de Benoît Paire.

[roytennisfan]

Good to see Janko (Tipsarevic) win through qualifying to the SF in Qingdao Ch110 on clay,beating the no2 seed on the way, go on and win it, Janko

[roytennisfan]

Janko is in his first challenger final since 2009 without dropping a set

[roytennisfan]

Janko won his ch110 final in 3 sets gaining 160 places in live rankings up to 253 and is using PR39 to play Cincinnati

[patlowe]

Bjorkman is the new coach of Cilic.

[JerryD]

Well I guessed he'd be looking for a new one after the split. I thought it would be someone high profile or used by a high profile guy in the past, so this doesn't surprise me. I doubt it cilic can repeat his major win, regardless of his coach. But he could improve on his current performance

[-J-]

Sure he could win another major if it wasn't for those darn pesky drugs test :grrr:

[JerryD]

As always they are giving awards at the ATP world tour finals. Vote for your favourite player here http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/atp-awards-2016-fans-favourite

[Sallydaisy]

Stat:


José Morgado ‏@josemorgado (https://twitter.com/josemorgado) 5h5 hours ago (https://twitter.com/josemorgado/status/784453616103002112) Last time the top 5 didn't have Federer or Nadal
1. Hewitt
2. Agassi
3. Ferrero
4. Moya
5. Roddick

It will happen again on Monday.

[Sallydaisy]

Found on twitter:



tennisTVVerified account‏@TennisTV (https://twitter.com/TennisTV)

Interesting graphic for those who like their stats: court speed of all nine @ATPWorldTour (https://twitter.com/ATPWorldTour) Masters events & #ATP (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ATP?src=hash) Finals. #ATP (https://twitter.com/hashtag/ATP?src=hash)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuuBgunWgAA0HK6.jpg

[lynne]

TENNIS.........Jo-Wilfred Tsonga to become a Father..........http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/11/jo-wilfried-tsonga-father-atp-tennis/62231/

[Alis]

Great news - congratulations to Jo and his partner!

[Teresa]

Great news - congratulations to Jo and his partner!

That's great news for him. He looks like he would be a fun dad.

[roytennisfan]

Found on twitter:
Anumber of those from Tennis TV appear at odds with these rankings
Masters 1000 Tournaments

Tournament Surface Court Pace Rating
Indian Wells Plexipave IW Category 1: Slow
Miami Masters Laykold Cushion Plus System Category 3: Medium
Monte Carlo Masters Clay Category 1: Slow
Madrid Masters Clay Category 1: Slow
Rome Masters Clay Category 1: Slow
Rogers Cup Pro DecoTurf II Category 4: Medium-Fast
Cincinnati Pro DecoTurf II Category 4: Medium-Fast
Shanghai Masters DecoColor Category 4: Medium-fast
Paris Masters Greenset Grand Prix Category 4: Medium-fast
ATP World Tour Finals Greenset Grand Prix Category 3 – Medium
Grand Slams

Grand Slam Surface Court Pace Rating
Australian Open Plexicushion Prestige Category 4 – Medium-Fast
French Open Clay Category 1 – Slow
Wimbledon Grass Category 3 – Medium
US Open Pro Decoturf II Category 4 – Medium-Fast

Category Court Pace Rating
Category 1: Slow ≤ 29
Category 2: Medium-slow 30-34
Category 3: Medium 35-39
Category 4: Medium-fast 40-44
Category 5: Fast ≥ 45

[themass15]

TENNIS.........Jo-Wilfred Tsonga to become a Father..........http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/11/jo-wilfried-tsonga-father-atp-tennis/62231/

Got the wrong end of the stick because I though his partner was expecting a while back.

[roytennisfan]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis 30m30 minutes ago
Roger Federer, who's only actually played a few months this year, has been given the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship award for a 12th time.

[roytennisfan]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis 28m28 minutes ago
Other players nominated in the sportsmanship of the year award - Andy Murray, Stan Wawrinka, Rafael Nadal.
DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis 31m31 minutes ago
Federer is unquestionably a fantastic sport and top bloke. But surprised players didn't go for someone else this time. Del Potro maybe.


edit:DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis 6m6 minutes ago
Love to ask players that voted what sporting behaviour Federer exhibited (in 28 matches), that Stan (61), Nadal (53), Murray (82) didn't.

[roytennisfan]

Other ATP awards:

Coach of year - Magnus Norman
Most improved - Lucas Pouille
Comeback - Del Potro
Ron Bookman media award - Mike Dickson

[hfwardhouse]

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis 30m30 minutes ago
Roger Federer, who's only actually played a few months this year, has been given the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship award for a 12th time.

:rolleyes: