Roger Federer

[JAMES4578]

Certainly sad news, sure Roger won't play another Olympics-statement only mentions plans to play another few years and even that could be in doubt. Whilst haven't been biggest fan of him personally appreciative of his talent/style -hope he can at least be fairly fit and find some good form next season.

[-J-]

Crumbs so there's really only Andy and Novak left of the big 4 at the moment. May be Andy's chance to take the #1 spot but in all honesty I'd rather see him achieve it against a healthy top 4 than like this.
See Novak is playing doubles. Be interesting to see if he can bounce back in the singles. He still looks pretty awful IMHO. Wonder if all is well.......especially on the family front which he mentioned at Wimbly. We don't seem to see much of Elena these days. In fact Kim, who's indicated she won't travel extensively, seems to be more in evidence.days of there being a big four are gone just needs their fans to catch up with the reality

[JerryD]

days of there being a big four are gone just needs their fans to catch up with the reality

I have to agree. I think despite his ranking it's been a long time since Roger really made a mark. He's not won a major in over 4 years. Nadal, Stan, Murray and djoko all have in that time. It seems wrong to suggest that anyone else's achievements are undermined by his withdrawal. Andy for example was not attempting to take no 1 from fed. He is hoping to take it from Novak. Being higher ranked than fed and nadal you'd have to imagine it's not them who'd stop him

[Alis]

Although I've never been a Fed fan, I'm really sorry to hear this. It's a great shame for him not to be able to play the Olympics for one last time. I do hope he manages to come back all guns blazing because, having achieved all he has, it would be awful for him to just fade away. Besides which, I would love Andy to thrash him in a Major - how selfish is that?

[Teresa]

Just had the news about him flash up. Not a fan of the guy, but after all his achievements it is going to be sad to see him go out not with a bang, but a whimper. Selfishly I am glad that Mr M will always have one thing that Fed hasn't got. I can't see him coming back after this. Think how hard it was for Mr M.

[traveller7]

Im no fan but hate to see anyone have to stop due to injury. Hope he recovers soon

[Rosalind]

Interesting to see the jump from 2013 to 2016 on Federer. Wondering back in 2013 if he could win another Slam or if it was the end. I feel it is now for sure.

[david1610]

This is quite significant IMHO. I felt Roger had targetted playing on for another Olympics and then perhaps a glorified final farewell year. A few more years? He wants to play until nearly 40?
This might be a few matches next year then the "sorry the knee has beaten me" discourse.

[karanga]

Roger's announcement is no surprise because he has been struggling with injury all year. He did very well to reach the semifinals at Wimbledon.

It is not very long ago that he declared his intention to play at the Hopman Cup with Belinda Bencic in January saying he thought it would be the perfect tournament for him to start the season. This is an interesting decision to go back to Perth where he won one of his first professional titles with Martina Hingis. He also played the event with Mirka. Is he planning a year of playing tourneys that are the most meaningful in his career as part of his swansong?

I'm no fan of Roger, but hope he will recover so we see him at next year's Wimbledon. I hope he will win one last major title like Pete Sampras did in the 2002 USO after going out on Court #2 at Wimbledon in the second round to George Bastl.

[ljs]

well personally , I dont wish him any ill , but I will NOT MISS HIM !!!!

[Genbrit]

I find this sad and hope that he will make a comeback but think it will be difficult at his age. I agree that the Olympics will probably be the most difficult for him to miss.

However, I think karma has finally caught up with him after his condescending remarks regarding other players injuries and how he was injury free. Ironic, that his knee injury was an accident and not even caused by tennis.

[Teresa]

What I think is sad is that the final image of a great, albeit highly irritating (to Murray supporters....) career is going to be the great Federer flat on his face in front of the Wimbledon net. He is 35 in a couple of weeks, and so come January will be well on his way to 36. I just can't see him returning in any meaningful way. I have always thought that he is going to really struggle with retirement. He seems to feed on the adulation and attention of his fans. He is going to be lost without that. Any bets on him becoming a super coach?

It feels rather like the end of an era

[clancy]

Like you Teresa have always thought he will struggle with retirement. Can't see him standing in anyone's shadow.

[themass15]

Depends how much he misses the game. He is already old enough to play on the Seniors Tour.

[Jan62]

Like others on here, I'm no fan of Fed the man. But undeniably he has been a great player and although it broke my heart at the time, I do feel privileged to have been at the Wimby final in 2012 when he won. But a long lay off at 35, even if he comes back next year, I can't see him getting another major. And the thing that is really going to hurt is that Olympic gold medal, because surely he only had an outside chance of winning it at Rio and no chance at all of still being around to contest the 2020 games? But its sad when its injury that puts a great player into retirement, rather than just them deciding to call it a day, so from that point of view I hope he can come back in 2017. Agree though that he is one player that I think definitely will struggle being away from competition when he does decide to retire, and all the adulation that accompanies it for him.

How many times will Sue Barker et al manage to mention him at the tennis in Rio????

[ljs]

everytime her mouths open Jan

[rouges]

Venus just as old not doing too badly just now or Serana for matter. Radek gave Andy a run for his money last time they met and Karlovic. Both old guys less talented than Roger. My opinion. Roger will be fine.

[-J-]

Only rosewall has won a slam past 35 years old, and that was an entirely different era before these super fit guy who have taken the physicality of tennis to a whole new level, no way can the goat win another slam

[Murray rocks]

I've never been able to forgive Federer for making Andy cry in Wimbledon final 2012. However he has been incredible for tennis can't knock what he has achieved and anyone that says the sport won't miss him when he retires is deluded or not a tennis fan.
Greatest male player of all time.

[themass15]

Agreed. I never forgave him for putting on the jacket with 15 when he best Andy Roddick in 2009.

[Rosalind]

I've never understood why he has so many fans obliviously blind to his tacky gold accessories and GOAT attitude! I have seen Federer live a few times and he is a beautiful graceful player and possibly the GOAT but scratch the surface and I'm not keen on what you get. too arrogant for me.

[RosieBear]

While certainly true of some, I don't think it's the case that everyone who likes Fed is just an oblivious, blind devotee. For me it's a matter of weighing things up; in the plus column he has probably the most beautiful game I've ever seen and been responsible for the most seismic shift in tennis ever; Rafa, Andy, Nole all answered the call, but it was Fed who set the bar. He was the founding player of a golden era of tennis that I can't see being repeated in my lifetime. Then, in the negative column, he's made some questionable sartorial choices and made a few comments, which depending how you look at them, were either tactless or just brutally honest.

No question for me, the positive column wins out. Murray Rocks was bang on - while individuals might not miss him when he goes (which is fair enough), the sport sure as heck will.

[supergran]

I don't like Federer although admitting he has been a superb player. I will never forgive him for stealing Rafa's triumph by crying and getting all the attention, for his crass remarks about length of time GB was waiting for a GS winner, the gold embroidered jacket, the often insensitive remarks about players' injuries and reluctance to praise those who had beaten him, and the fiasco at the WTF when he robbed his fans citing a back injury which healed in time for practice and taking part in the Davis Cup. Did I mention that I don't like him?:grrr:

[Teresa]

What I have always thought about Wimbledon 2012 is that had Federer actually recognised just what pressure Mr M had been under since he first came onto the tennis scene, and been a little less "greedy" and actually thought of something other than his own ego, Murray would have been so spaced out that there would have been a high probability he would not have been so focussed on London 2012. Federer might well have ended up with the coveted singles gold. It gives me a nice warm feeling. As it turned out it has worked out fine. Mr M has got both. Just in one thing Mr M trumps Federer - well two if you count being a much nicer person. Small minded perhaps, but it cheers me up no end.

[themass15]

Andy is in the same vein as Rafa, much more humble and modest.

[patlowe]

While certainly true of some, I don't think it's the case that everyone who likes Fed is just an oblivious, blind devotee. For me it's a matter of weighing things up; in the plus column he has probably the most beautiful game I've ever seen and been responsible for the most seismic shift in tennis ever; Rafa, Andy, Nole all answered the call, but it was Fed who set the bar. He was the founding player of a golden era of tennis that I can't see being repeated in my lifetime. Then, in the negative column, he's made some questionable sartorial choices and made a few comments, which depending how you look at them, were either tactless or just brutally honest.

No question for me, the positive column wins out. Murray Rocks was bang on - while individuals might not miss him when he goes (which is fair enough), the sport sure as heck will.
Very well summed up Anna, and I esp agree with the comments in bold type. Whilst I do think he is arrogant and irritating at times, his is the most lovely tennis to watch and for me, that is the bottom line. When he retires, that will signify the beginning of the end of this incredible, precious golden era we are all so enjoying and for that reason I will be sorry when he goes.. Of course, with Andy being such a huge part of this era, it just makes it even more extra special and long, long may it continue. I know I value and treasure every moment!

[WimbledonWestie]

Pat and RosieB- just how I feel. At times he irritates me beyond belief but I do enjoy his play, having seen him play 3 times at the 02 and once at Wimbledon (bizarrely 3 times v Wawrinka and once v del po), and as you say, he is an integral part of the golden era of the big 4. What a glorious era it has been to watch and enjoy.

[themass15]

I have seen him loads and loads of times going back to 2000 when he was a bad tempered teenager playing Goran Ivanisevic at a tournament which was held in London. One of the best to watch, but certainly there is a lot too, to put one's back up.

[lynne]

From Nial Smith Design,,,,,,,,,,,,,



Lou Reed - Transfederer (This album will not be playing) — with Roger Federer.


https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051791_1171584179574834_393067580246944230_n.png ?oh=b7305d49fafb731ece429d69a66c9e8d&oe=583BEC7B

[JAMES4578]

Did anyone see the recent Mercedes ad, comes with a health warning ;) Fed Ad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbh5iQA5oY)

[-J-]

Did anyone see the recent Mercedes ad, comes with a health warning ;) Fed Ad (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABbh5iQA5oY)worse thing is he must have actually agreed to take part in it :surprised:

[supergran]

That has left me speechless.:ill::ill::ill:

[pabbers]

Good grief!!!

[Alis]

Oh, my giddy aunt!

[patlowe]

Yes, all those comments above for me too!!

[hfwardhouse]

:shocked:

[RosieBear]

Well I liked it! Made me giggle. Good on Fed - he doesn't take himself so seriously after all.

[patlowe]

It's actually very clever.

[WimbledonWestie]

I thought it was clever too, harmless fun and made laugh as well.

[Rosalind]

yes, didn't mind it either. All these ads must take a lot of his time and performance must suffer, so all good for the rest ! ;)

[rouges]

Too busy admiring the cool beautiful car . Some machine:bravo:

[Linda]

Clever ad, but there was an image that I would rather not have seen :sofa:

[karanga]

Roger enjoying his time out hiking in the Swiss mountains.

http://twitter.com/rogerfederer?lang=en-gb

[sir coolerking]

If Federer's next tournament was the Aussie Open, what seeding would he have? The points he has amassed this year would probably have him at about 16-20 in January, but would it be protected? And if so, at what number? I'm guessing he'd be number 3 seed.

[Monica]

If Federer's next tournament was the Aussie Open, what seeding would he have? The points he has amassed this year would probably have him at about 16-20 in January, but would it be protected? And if so, at what number? I'm guessing he'd be number 3 seed.
protected ranking only protects entry - his seeding will be whatever it is at that point ie 16-20 - however he is still likely to get the best slots in the daily schedules!!!!

[Sallydaisy]

protected ranking only protects entry - his seeding will be whatever it is at that point ie 16-20 - however he is still likely to get the best slots in the daily schedules!!!!
... and pigs might fly!
... no TD in their right mind is going to miss the PR/TV rankings opportunities that FedEx brings until he retires.

[themass15]

Whatever you may think about him, he is pure Box Office.

[Rosalind]

....but think what he could do for the Senior Tour.... ;)

[themass15]

I am sure he is not considering that for a while yet.

[Bardot]

Now we know but surely Fed's deserving of an even higher honour for this selfless act. :big grin:


CutereRF ‏@cuterer17
Little reminder for all those who keep asking why was Roger nominated for Sportsmanship Award when he wasn't playing half year.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cv9C-s2WIAAZ7-s.jpg

[Sallydaisy]

From twitter ... tears will be shed on RogerFederer.com's forum ...
;)

Andy Schooler‏@NetTalkTennis
(https://twitter.com/NetTalkTennis)

Roger Federer today drops out of the world's top 10 for the 1st time since October 13th 2002

[-J-]

would he be eligible for a protected ranking on his return tho ?

[pabbers]

would he be eligible for a protected ranking on his return tho ?

I think I misunderstood protected ranking once before. I think it may just give him entry to tournaments so that worst case scenario he wouldn't have to play qualies. Otherwise his ranking is what it is.
I'm sure I'll be swiftly corrected if I'm wrong :big grin:

[Sallydaisy]

If his ranking has dropped because he hasn't played so many tournaments of late AND thus lost points on his rolling ranking then the Protected Ranking wouldn't apply. I think that to get a PR he has to have notified the ATP Tour of long-term illness which would have rendered him medically unfit to play for a period of time. You'd have to check a lot of that in the ATP Rulebook.

All a PR does is allow a player to go onto the Entry List for a tournament at the rank he had before he stopped playing i.e. it allows them to play tournaments they'd otherwise not be ranked high enough for. It doesn't have a bearing on seeding which is based on ATP rank the Monday prior to an event starting (most of the time ...).

That's probably as clear as mud ... but hope it helps.

[Alis]

Does that mean that Fed could be a dangerous Round 16 opponent in Australia?

[Bardot]

Does that mean that Fed could be a dangerous Round 16 opponent in Australia?
He could drop lower than 16 before the Australian Open as he's not playing Brisbane where he's defending 150 points.

[Teresa]

Federer is going to be 35.5 at the time of the AO, and will have been off the court for 6 months. I really do think it is going to be his farewell tour. Look how hard it was for Murray to come back. Dangerous, but not that dangerous I would suspect.

[RosieBear]

Fed won't be a threat to Andy, but he's extremely mentally strong and although don't think he's got another slam in him, I can definitely see him getting back to top 5, possibly the 3 spot, and maybe even the number 2 if Novak's 'woes' continue (and I'm not going in to detail, but a fresh rumour has emerged). Fed has never put undue strain on his body, and under S&V master Edberg, developed a new, even more efficient style, so I don't see why Fed can't be playing til 37-38, just like Dr Ivo. Many tennis lovers (not just his devout fans) find him a joy to watch, and he brings so much to the sport, so I'm definitely hoping there's a couple more years play left in the Fed.

[WimbledonWestie]

Ooo RosieB u dropped that in there and are leaving us dangling tantalisingly!

[RosieBear]

Ha! I promise I wasn't doing that annoying I know something you don't know thing :shamed: - just that the issues around Novak are ongoing, and I think he could be vulnerable to be overtaken by a resurgent Fed. Will have to wait and see .....

[karanga]

Roger Federer was selected by fans as the ATPWorldTour.com Fans’ Favourite presented by Moët & Chandon for a 14th straight year and by fellow players as winner of the Stefan Edberg Sportsmanship Award for a 12th time.


http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/federer-wins-fans-favourite-sportsmanship-atp-awards-2016

[Bardot]

McFederer! (https://twitter.com/rogerfederer/status/798529039384182790) :big grin: Andy can't withdraw now.

[patlowe]

McFederer! (https://twitter.com/rogerfederer/status/798529039384182790) :big grin: Andy can't withdraw now.
Loved that!!! Really made me smile. I wonder what Andy's take on it will be!!

[Josephine]

Think that is brilliant of Federer - well done to him! :clap::clap::clap:

I suppose Andy did put Lederhosen on in Munich.

Think Andy ought to play a few games in a kilt as Grigor and Tim did in Glasgow.

[Linda]

After all these years of disliking him, I am starting to warm to him - is this the first sign of senility? :sofa:

[Teresa]

Being a cynic I wonder if he saw the reception Dimitrov got with his kilt, and wants a piece of the action. Federer doesn't like other folks getting attention he thinks he should have.

Alternatively he is just greatful Mr M is playing.

[Caro]

After all these years of disliking him, I am starting to warm to him - is this the first sign of senility? :sofa:

Same Linda! :laugh::laugh:

[themass15]

Perhaps it is because he is starting to be better about Andy.

[banskogirl]

After all these years of disliking him, I am starting to warm to him - is this the first sign of senility? :sofa:


Same Linda! :laugh::laugh:

Me too :shamed: feel a bit guilty, although I do think he has changed but I might just have bought into more anti feddikins than he deserved.

[supergran]

After all these years of disliking him, I am starting to warm to him - is this the first sign of senility? :sofa:

Am afraid so. Fed doesn't do nice unless it's to make him look nice. Don't fall for it.:lol::big grin:

[themass15]

We should all appreciate his style of play. He will be missed by lots of people.

[banskogirl]

Am afraid so. Fed doesn't do nice unless it's to make him look nice. Don't fall for it.:lol::big grin:

Maybe he has always secretly wanted an excuse to wear a kilt!

[Teresa]

I think he is warming to Mr M, because he sees that he is the only one who might stop Djokovic breaking all his records. I think it's as simple as that.

[karanga]

Roger is returning to action sooner than expected in the IPTL event next month.


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/roger-federer-return-injury-earlier-expected-will-play-itpl-event-india-1593636

It will be good to see him back.

[themass15]

He was also at the Grand Prix in Abu Dhabi today and was interviewed by Channel 4.

[sir coolerking]

Roger is returning to action sooner than expected in the IPTL event next month.


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/roger-federer-return-injury-earlier-expected-will-play-itpl-event-india-1593636

It will be good to see him back.

Nope, he's now pulled out of the IPTL. Although I can't work out whether it's because his injury needs more healing time or if he no longer wants to be associated with a joke tournament that is seemingly dieing horribly.

[Josephine]

They can't pay him enough money.

@benrothenberg on Twitter

Well, this is awkward: IPTL admits that previously announced Serena and Federer appearances won't happen, due to lack of cash:

[patlowe]

Federer delays return after knee injury.
http://bbc.in/2gyKQib

[Alis]

Says it all - doesn't it?

[Bardot]

Federer just held a live Q&A on Periscope and was asked "Please come to Scotland" and replied "maybe next year". He then went on to thank Andy ("thanks buddy") for playing his exhibition in April ("I hope I can return the favour in Scotland"). Speculating but could there be a reciprocal arrangement with Andy by Rog playing AndyMurrayLive in September? He also congratulated Andy on his fantastic year.

About Andy playing Exho for Africa. "Shout out to him[Andy] for doing it, cant thank him enough for doing it. Congratulations on being #1. That was epic."

[lovetennis]

Fed calling Andy "buddy" :shocked:

I did have a chuckle that only Fed would livestream a practice session. His ego hasn't shrunk during his lay-off :lol:

[roytennisfan]

Roger is there now on court in Perth, plays his first match since Wimbledon on Monday against Dan. A good size crowd for his practice session


20 second clip
https://twitter.com/AustralianOpen/status/814400156430807041

[david1610]

The crowd size is incredible!
Just had a thought... Dan or Kyle and Jo or Heather could have represented Britain at the Hopman Cup surely? I know they don't have the star appeal of Andy, but ... why not? ;)

[angiebabez]

The crowd size is incredible!
Just had a thought... Dan or Kyle and Jo or Heather could have represented Britain at the Hopman Cup surely? I know they don't have the star appeal of Andy, but ... why not? ;)

Dan is playing...he plays fed on monday

[lovetennis]

So Fed is back. Too early for any deep analysis of where he is at but overall I'd say he moved well against Dan so the knee must be mended. His shot making was keen enough with a few UEs long on the baseline and into the tramlines. It will be interesting to see how he fares over a tight five-setter.
I do hope the commies are going to recover some equanimity and objectivity when calling his matches. The sick-fest that Eurosport put on today was revolting, and I say this as someone who has admired Fed's play over the years. To be burbling on about how marvellous he was on the dancefloor at the Hopman Cup New Year's dance was just blurghhh. And then they admired how wonderful he was to choose kit that colour coordinated with the arena -all part of his genius of course :barmy:. Let's hope for some balanced analysis of his play and game, or I'll be watching with the sound off in 2017

[RosieBear]

Agree with lovetennis, too early to determine much about Fed, but I'm glad to see him back healthy and looking good. I really do enjoy watching him. Also agree that the commentators were extremely nauseating - does anyone else remember Billy Connolly's skit on biased Aussie commentators? So funny. Exchange Fed for the Aussie athlete and Billy was spot on (worth googling if you haven't seen it). I don't like the fawning but I've never blamed Fed for it - just like can't blame Andy for the stupid things anyone says about him (Andy). I'm pleased to see Fed back and wish him a healthy 2017.

[goldfish]

I've never been a huge fan of Federer. I admire his style of play and his achievements tremendously but I think it's his 'too clean' image plus the comments he has got away with on many occasions combined with the sycophantic commentators that have put me off. However, I have decided to turn over a new leaf this year and just enjoy his matches, to absorb the pleasure that he gets just from playing tennis. It appears to me that he is going to be pretty relaxed, although Hopman Cup being an exhibition tournament accentuates this, and that he is not going to be over serious about the results. Yes, of course he'll be going all out to win but I don't feel he's going to be overly concerned about the losses unless he has really played very badly. So join me all non-Fedfans, relax, enjoy and appreciate what he has brought and continues to bring to the game of tennis.

[roytennisfan]

Roger struggling against Alexander 6-7 5-6 serving to get a tiebreak

[Sallydaisy]

Fed takes the 2nd set on a tie-break.

[goldfish]

..... but loses the 3rd on a tie-break. Well done Zverev

[roytennisfan]

Roger playing against Melzer J and down 2-4, now #17 seed but walked out ranked #33 in the live rankings. To match the 720 points dropping he needs to beat Berdych, Nishikori and Andy.
On the other hand, a win would take him close to the top ten.

[sir coolerking]

Given how rusty he's likely to be, I think he'll do very well to beat Berdych.

But he's turned around the first set here and will serve for it, 6-5.

[roytennisfan]

Just got a break in the third 7-5 3-6 3-1

[themass15]

Federer looking rusty but will come through this in 4.

[JerryD]

I have to say I'm 100% backing Berdy for this. I don't know about his chances. He was poor towards the end of last season and the appy stuff didn't help. He looks likes he's playing well but not at his best. Though I guess you wouldn't want to peak to soon. Hard to tell how federer is playing as he has hard an easy draw so far. Something about him saying Berdy had beat him the us and the Wimbie and will be hoping to beat him here too got my goat. Maybe it's just toothache. Wouldn't like to call this one as much as I'll be hoping for Berdy.

[patlowe]

O'Shannessy was analysing Federer's play and he reckoned something along these lines.....he is not playing to his former usual standard, especially from the back of the court, so he counters that by coming into the net as often as possible. We shall see!

[RosieBear]

I have to say I'm 100% backing Berdy for this. I don't know about his chances. He was poor towards the end of last season and the appy stuff didn't help. He looks likes he's playing well but not at his best. Though I guess you wouldn't want to peak to soon. Hard to tell how federer is playing as he has hard an easy draw so far. Something about him saying Berdy had beat him the us and the Wimbie and will be hoping to beat him here too got my goat. Maybe it's just toothache. Wouldn't like to call this one as much as I'll be hoping for Berdy.

Me too Jerry. Because of his SHBH Fed has always struggled with big hitters and Berdy has had some big wins over Fed in slams. Go Tomas!

[roytennisfan]

A win for Berdy and Roger is facing dropping to #31/2. There's more pressure on Roger than Berdy!

[patlowe]

O'Shannessy's analysis of Fed v Rubin:

https://youtu.be/XpfC-dLnz2Y

[Caro]

What is wrong with me? I want Fed to win ...

[hfwardhouse]

What is wrong with me? I want Fed to win ...

:shocked: :faint: don't think we've got a thermometer smiley :lol:

[Linda]

But this one might be appropriate :barmy:

Actually I picked Fed to win this match in the pick'em so I wouldn't be too upset.

[sir coolerking]

You do get some odd scheduling in Melbourne........the match of the 3rd round and it's unlikely to start much before 10pm local time. Is this for the global TV audience?

I'm a Berdy fan, I'd like to see him in the QF's against Andy. He's caused far less issue over the years than Fed or Nishikori.

[Hawkeye]

:shocked: :faint: don't think we've got a thermometer smiley :lol::ill:

[Mickey]

I am getting more and more angry with the Coms, Fed has only played on this court so he is used to the conditions, whereas Berdy is on it for the first time. It does make a difference, but they don't mention this.

[Alis]

I am getting more and more angry with the Coms, Fed has only played on this court so he is used to the conditions, whereas Berdy is on it for the first time. It does make a difference, but they don't mention this.

They are far too busy with their 'fedulation'! I didn't see the match so would be interested to hear what the general consensus of opinion is. Did Fed play briliantly or did Berdy play like a prize prune, as he can sometimes, or was it somewhere in the middle?

[RosieBear]

They are far too busy with their 'fedulation'! I didn't see the match so would be interested to hear what the general consensus of opinion is. Did Fed play briliantly or did Berdy play like a prize prune, as he can sometimes, or was it somewhere in the middle?

As I put on the main Aussie thread, my personal view is that Fed was outstanding, and while Tomas didn't play particularly well, that was mostly down to Fed turning him into a rabbit in the headlights. The last couple of years, Fed's game plan has been all-out super-aggressive- attack to try and win quickly, and I feel we saw a prime example of that today. It reminded me very much of how Fed blitzed Andy in the notorious Wimbo semi a couple of years ago - it's hard to say if Fed was quite as good as that today because Berdy is less well equipped than Andy (who lost the semi in 3 tight sets) to deal with the onslaught, but I feel that Fed's level was close to that good.:sofa: (and I don't scare easily). I don't feel that the praise for his performance is just blind Fed love, after all Annabel and Greg had both picked Tomas to win.

[Teresa]

They are far too busy with their 'fedulation'! I didn't see the match so would be interested to hear what the general consensus of opinion is. Did Fed play briliantly or did Berdy play like a prize prune, as he can sometimes, or was it somewhere in the middle?

I watched and I think Berdych played like the prize prune. Others may disagree. He had no belief he could win. He was muffing shots he should have made, and both let Federer walk all over him, and invited him to. Compared with Dan's match, Dan went out on to that court with a firm belief he could win, and that belief never wavered. Dan was also prepared to suffer to win. He was obviously knackered at the end, but he kept his focus and fought through the last couple of games to get the win. I would say Berdych had accepted he was going to lose before ever he went on the court. That or he was bottling the prospect of facing Sir A. I should think that match will confirm to him that his dream of a Grand Slam isn't going to happen.

Rubin ranked 200 - 2 days ago put up more of a fight.

[Golden Lady]

As I put on the main Aussie thread, my personal view is that Fed was outstanding, and while Tomas didn't play particularly well, that was mostly down to Fed turning him into a rabbit in the headlights. The last couple of years, Fed's game plan has been all-out super-aggressive- attack to try and win quickly, and I feel we saw a prime example of that today. I reminded me very much of how Fed blitzed Andy in the notorious Wimbo semi a couple of years ago - it's hard to say if Fed was quite as good as that today because Berdy is less well equipped than Andy (who lost the semi in 3 tight sets) to deal with the onslaught, but I feel that Fed's level was close to that good.:sofa: (and I don't scare easily).

I agree with you, Fed knows that his super-agressive attacking game is the way to the quick win. Berdy wasn't on top form but Fed just imposed his attacking game from the off and when the serve is firing like that then he files through his service games. I imagine the match must have flashed by Berdy's eyes very quickly! Andy will be much better equipped to deal with this should they meet in the quarter finals, having experienced it 2 years ago. That was a horribly sad loss for Andy but the experience might just stand him in good stead this time. Add to the fact that Andy has improved since then and is a much bigger prospect for Fed right now.

[harriet]

beeb report of fedX's semi (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/38755188) win over stan-the-man
i'll put this on the andy thread too, not sure what the ruling is

[RosieBear]

Extract from The Times, by Matthew Syed

"Federer has been written off many times. Columnists have offered (unsolicited) advice that he should hang up his racket. That by continuing to play, and to fail to make the final step at grand-slam events, he was somehow undermining his legacy. That he would do better to retreat into the safer and perhaps more comfortable territory of coaching or perhaps even punditry.

The Swiss continued for one reason only. Not for the love of the game, great though that is. Not because he lacks imagination and isn’t sure what else he might do with his time. No, he continued because he continued to believe, believe to his innermost core, that he could triumph once again. Yesterday, he was finally proved right. To sustain his belief in the teeth of bitter experience represents a seminal lesson in the art of perseverance"

Full article in THE TIMES available at: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/federers-resolve-makes-him-peerless-v28r7hw7v

[david1610]

Not been on the site for a few days but I want to congratulate Roger on his GS victory. I think it is good for tennis and also encouraging for Andy's "generation" as well!

[Bardot]

I thought I'd post a link to this blog as a contrast to the many (some might say endless ;)) articles rightly applauding Federer for his amazing performance in Australia. I'm not suggesting what is written has any truth but it makes interesting reading and includes a quote from "hypocritical" Andy. If anyone follows Chris de Waard on twitter or has read his blog will know he makes controversial statements and is relentless in pursuing what he sees is illegal behaviour whether it's doping or match fixing so could be considered an obsessive on the subject.

The Tennis Purist (http://tennispurist.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/federers-fairy-tale-if-it-sounds-too.html) - Federer's fairy tale: if it sounds too good to be clean, it's probably dirty.

[-J-]

I thought I'd post a link to this blog as a contrast to the many (some might say endless ;)) articles rightly applauding Federer for his amazing performance in Australia. I'm not suggesting what is written has any truth but it makes interesting reading and includes a quote from "hypocritical" Andy. If anyone follows Chris de Waard on twitter or has read his blog will know he makes controversial statements and is relentless in pursuing what he sees is illegal behaviour whether it's doping or match fixing so could be considered an obsessive on the subject.

The Tennis Purist (http://tennispurist.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/federers-fairy-tale-if-it-sounds-too.html) - Federer's fairy tale: if it sounds too good to be clean, it's probably dirty.
LIKE HIS STYLE :rolling:
has to be said he is making some massive leaps of logic but the one thing I 100% agree with about is the total lack of will of any tennis authority to do anything serious about drugs misuse and the media toadies to tow the party line
imagine the bbc getting someone like ben Johnson to commentate on athletics ..... na never gonna happen but jonny mac talking tennis no problem

[Alis]

I agree about the massive leaps in his argument but it still makes very interesting reading. I'm still not sure why he calls Andy 'hypocritical' though.

[WimbledonWestie]

That puzzled me too.

[jagmad]

I agree about the massive leaps in his argument but it still makes very interesting reading. I'm still not sure why he calls Andy 'hypocritical' though.

I hope the term "To quote a hypocritical Andy Murray:" isn't him trying to infer that they're all at it including Andy.
As I for one would be shocked to the core if he was.
No I'm taking it as a reference to the tight lipped-ness of the whole tennis world/pie, referred to in the last paragraph.
Maybe he thinks Andy should be more vocal about the lack of checking. And as he isn't shouting about it maybe he's at it too?
Which just isn't his style. Either way.
:knight:

[-J-]

I hope the term "To quote a hypocritical Andy Murray:" isn't him trying to infer that they're all at it including Andy.
As I for one would be shocked to the core if he was.
No I'm taking it as a reference to the tight lipped-ness of the whole tennis world/pie, referred to in the last paragraph.
Maybe he thinks Andy should be more vocal about the lack of checking. And as he isn't shouting about it maybe he's at it too?
Which just isn't his style. Either way.
:knight:
could be a reference to andys earlier negative comments when he was woke early in the morning to be tested

[Bardot]

I think the reason he's calling Andy hypocritical is that he believes he could be describing himself in that quote. Nobody is above suspicion in The Tennis Purist's world. ;)

http://i64.tinypic.com/mv3no2.png

[HoopGirl]

Maybe he has used the word incorrectly and actually means hypo-critical - as in very critical?

[jagmad]

could be a reference to andys earlier negative comments when he was woke early in the morning to be tested

What like "Do one can't you see I'm kipping"

[-J-]

What like "Do one can't you see I'm kipping"
not sure that's the exact quote ;) but it just about covers his sentiment at the time yes

[Bardot]

Shaderer, at least it meant Rog didn't say "Murray". ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3WLwk5WAAERUaM.jpg

[Alis]

Shaderer, at least it meant Rog didn't say "Murray". ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3WLwk5WAAERUaM.jpg

Definitely a calculated omission IMO.

[RosieBear]

Does anyone think Fed might skip RG this year, so he can be superfresh for Wimbers, where he has a much better chance of winning? I have a feeling this is what he's going to do...

[karanga]

I wouldn't be surprised if Roger gave RG miss and focused on winning Wimbledon. RG is more physically demanding.

[JerryD]

Looks like fed isn't planning retirement for at least 3 more years http://www.eurosport.co.uk/tennis/roger-federer-to-play-on-for-three-more-years_sto6067374/story.shtml#uk-fb-po

[Linda]

:(

[Helen40]

Well, although I'm not personal fan of his, I do think that he's good for the game's profile, and people don't like change. As with Nole, he does lots of charitable stuff too, and is helping Andy out this year. I just hope that he doesn't knock Andy out of anything.

[Bardot]

Sport360 (http://sport360.com/article/tennis/dubai_duty_free_championships/224539/dubai-duty-free-tennis-roger-federer-doesnt-consider-himself-favourite-to-win-title-again-at-aviation-club/) - 'I'm not favourite in Dubai' - Federer

RollyG looks to be off the Fed schedule.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5l45hqWMAEL83l.jpg

[JerryD]

Sport360 (http://sport360.com/article/tennis/dubai_duty_free_championships/224539/dubai-duty-free-tennis-roger-federer-doesnt-consider-himself-favourite-to-win-title-again-at-aviation-club/) - 'I'm not favourite in Dubai' - Federer

RollyG looks to be off the Fed schedule.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5l45hqWMAEL83l.jpg

I think we were all expecting this. Fed will be focusing on wimbie and a long break before the us worked in his favour. I'm not in favour of this approach though. Players shouldn't be able to just drop huge parts of this season. Otherwise you will get players who work hard all year beaten by those who just play 6 months. It doesn't make for good viewing and it doesn't reward the players who are fighting it out every week. imagine if all players took this approach. Sorry folks, this is just one I feel very strong about. Put in the time and effort to try in the French (even if you go out in the first round) or don't enter Wimbledon. If you are injured that's different but you can't plan injuries 12 weeks in advance.

[Teresa]

Not a fan of Federer, but we can't really be critical. Andy Murray did something similar in 2013 when his back was kicking off. He missed most of the clay court season, but won Queen's and then earned his Knighthood a couple of weeks later.

[Nessie]

But surely Andy only did that because his back was kicking off i.e. An injury. Not because he wanted to concentrate his efforts on Wimbledon?

[Bardot]

Federer deciding to miss the French Open 3 months in advance is slightly different to Andy being unfit to play the French Open having retired during his match with Granollers in Rome two weeks prior. Federer is being sensible and managing his schedule as befits someone of 35 who's been on tour for 20 years.

[JerryD]

Not a fan of Federer, but we can't really be critical. Andy Murray did something similar in 2013 when his back was kicking off. He missed most of the clay court season, but won Queen's and then earned his Knighthood a couple of weeks later.

I thought Andy's skipping it was injury perhaps I was wrong. Having 6 months off last year and now setting up to miss time again to be better prepared for Wimbledon looks like a pattern and I'm just not a fan. Not because it's federer but because I don't think it's good for tennis or for the people playing week in week out. We aren't talking about a small event either, 1 of only 4 majors. People used to joke that many players were absent during the clay season, but I think if not injured a player should aim to play the full season. Not be preparing to be off months in advance. Nadal has often talked about the damage the hard court does to his knees, now in a big nadal fan but wouldn't be a fan of him skipping the hard court majors to focus on other surfaces. It's a move in tennis I personally am not in support of, the same as I'm not in support of deciding point in the doubles.

[RosieBear]

I just knew Fed would do this....and on reflection, I'm a bit annoyed. Reminds me of when Cilic skipped Bercy in 2014 so he could be fresh for O2 (he officially cited an injury but everyone knew he was prioritising O2) :grrr:

[themass15]

He will do whatever he thinks will benefit and lengthen his playing career

[Bardot]

Federer did similar last year by missing the French (citing a back injury) and concentrating on Wimbledon and it almost worked reaching the semi-final although he shut down his season thereafter. He did play Monte Carlo and Rome in 2016 whereas it sounds as if he could skip the entire clay court season this year.

[RosieBear]

I'm unsure of the rules, could someone (aka Bardot ;)) please clarify what Fed is allowed to skip?

[Bardot]

I'm unsure of the rules, could someone (aka Bardot ;)) please clarify what Fed is allowed to skip?

From the ATP Rule Book (recommended reading. :p ;))


1.08 Reduction of ATP World Tour Masters 1000 Commitment
A. A player’s number of ATP World Tour Masters 1000 commitment tournaments shall
be reduced by one (1) tournament for reaching each of the following milestones:
1) 600 matches* (as of 1 January of the commitment year);
2) 12 years of service;
3) 30 years of age (as of 1 January of the commitment year).
If all three (3) conditions are met then the player has a complete exemption
from ATP World Tour Masters 1000 player commitment
Fed can please himself as regards 1000s.

[Linda]

Once a player is over 30 and played a certain amount of matches (600?) they are not subject to the rules on compulsory tournaments. They can skip as many as they like.

Ah, you beat me to it.

[RosieBear]

From the ATP Rule Book (recommended reading. :p ;))
Fed can please himself as regards 1000s.

My dog ate my copy, along with my ITF Rule Book, so if you could clarify re slams as well, that would be great :big grin: You are an :angel:

Edit - I ask because I was expecting Fed to pull out of RG, but on the eve of the tournament - I don't understand how he can speak about possibly withdrawing 3 months in advance. :thanks:

[Bardot]

My dog ate my copy, along with my ITF Rule Book, so if you could clarify re slams as well, that would be great :big grin: You are an :angel:

A link to the online rule book (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Corporate/Rulebook.aspx) assuming your dog can't access that. :maggie: :p

Slams aren't under the administration of the ATP so it would seem they can't fine/ban players for missing them like they can for other tournaments although they must count as "zero pointers" for their ranking.

[sir coolerking]

I'm not Federer's biggest fan by any means, but given his record of competing in and going deep in consecutive slams, he doesn't really owe anyone anything.

I still have that Aussie Open as a complete one off where he took advantage of the Numbers 1&2 being off form for whatever reason. I don't see it happening again this year.

[roytennisfan]

I tend to agree, I don't think he will win another Hardcourt and likely not to even play Clay but could still win Halle and be a threat for Wimbledon. He certainly came back down to earth with a massive bump last night.

[sir coolerking]

In the past he has tended to play Indian Wells and then miss Miami, or vice versa. Do we know if he's likely to be playing both this year? I'd accept Dubai as being a bit 'after the Lord Mayor's Show', but I'd expect him to be up for these Masters Events. Then we'll know his true form.

[roytennisfan]

His schedule currently includes both IW and Miami, I think he will play both

[Stell]

He's now claiming, he'll end up as world number one.

[Alis]

He's now claiming, he'll end up as world number one.

Did he actually say that? The piece that I read quoted him as saying that he wasn't going to play a huge number or tournaments and to finish the year as world number one he would have to win another Major. Of course, he may well do that but he wasn't claiming that he would. You may well have seen another interview though, Stell.

[WimbledonWestie]

I thought he said he'd like to be no 1- which is a reasonable desire for someone of his ability and the fact he's already been there. Why would he not want it again, I'd say it would be stranger if he'd said he wasn't interested.

[Alis]

Saying he would like it and claiming that he will be are two different things though. Of course, he would like to be number one - so would every other player on the circuit.

[harriet]

i am having to accord fedX more respect, so I want to post this article with 2 comments wh are worth reading
guardian/ kevin michell on indian wells (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/mar/19/roger-federer-defy-time-critics-win-indian-wells?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=GU+Today+main+NEW+H+categories&utm_term=218096&subid=256531&CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2)

Federer, who held serve 37 times in a row to reach the final, did what he had to do. He was quick, sharp, smart, adventurous and merciless. He floated again and stung.
'Federer' began the week at No10 in the world but thinks he has an outside chance of returning to the top of the rankings, maybe even by the end of the year. There is gathering evidence to support a contention that seemed preposterous only a few months ago.

[Bardot]

NSFW! :hide: :p :big grin:

http://media.gq.com/photos/58c1b6370197c220f4d9d32a/master/w_1600/Roger-Federer-0417-GQ-FERF06-01.jpg

GQ (http://www.gq.com/story/roger-federer-cover-story-2017?mbid=social_twitter) - Will Roger Federer ever be done?

Quote from the writer:

As a fan, I need some grit to grab. More for me are Andy Murray's self-defeatism

[JerryD]

He wasn't on the list on the deadline day so it is no surprise but it is now confirmed that federer won't play montecarlo https://mobile.twitter.com/wearetennis/status/844926968130916352

[Alis]

I wouldn't be surprised if he missed the whole clay court season and came back full of vigour for the grass.

[Rosalind]

That picture of Roger is one of the tackiest things I've ever seen. I could never quite make Roger out but I've got him now - narcissist

[jagmad]

That picture of Roger is one of the tackiest things I've ever seen. I could never quite make Roger out but I've got him now - narcissist
:thumbup:
I'm sure he'd love to get up there, must be where he keeps his trophy's,no room.

[roytennisfan]

I wouldn't be surprised if he missed the whole clay court season and came back full of vigour for the grass.

Me too, but Roger is down on the entry list for Madrid

[JerryD]

I saw that and posted it today on the Madrid thread. I was surprised as he didn't enter MC but I guess there is still time for him to withdraw.

[roytennisfan]

I saw that and posted it today on the Madrid thread. I was surprised as he didn't enter MC but I guess there is still time for him to withdraw.

And to enter MC

[Bardot]

This is what Federer said in Dubai about his schedule on clay.

Q. Can I follow up on something you suggested with the clay court season, you said you'd have to ask yourself how much you were going to put into it at the French. I know you said before that you won't skip the French, but do you think it's possible that you might, let's say, only play one event before the French on the clay or take some time out?
ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I said it already in Australia that I will only decide on the clay court swing after Miami. So as of now, you know, if I lost every match from here on till Miami, you know, that changes things around, or if you won a lot of matches until the clay court season comes around. So all that plays into how many tournaments I want or can play and have to play.

So, for me, I will really take it from there. What I meant with it, you know, in my best years I think I played three, sometimes four tournaments. That's always going to be a hard ask right now, because also the body needs some always some healing again.

And I would also like to put in some buildup. And because of the week being gone after Wimbledon and now being put in between Paris and Wimbledon, I have less time also after Wimbledon going into the American summer.

I hope it makes sense. I know you know what I'm saying. That's why I need to just see how the American swing goes now, and then I will take it from there.
I'm not sure it does. ;)

[roytennisfan]

Sounds like "if i don't know, how can i tell you?"

[sir coolerking]

Given how much he's played in Indian Wells and Miami, I'd be surprised if we saw him at more than 2 clay events, Paris and one other.

[JerryD]

As it seems Andy and djoko will play MC I think he will sit that one out and just play Madrid then decide of RG and Rome

[Josephine]

Andy & Fed will be playing on the river in Zurich in a few minutes. Do we have a thread for the Exho match?

1290

[angiebabez]

Rodg better go easy on our andy tonight & not stretch him too much!!! He is still recovering the wee soul.

[Teresa]

It is being shown on Eurosport and Eurosport player from about 19:30 tonight.

[Alis]

Fed has announced that he is not going to play the French Open - there's a surprise!

[Hawkeye]

I know he's allowed to miss a few tournaments given his length of service, but this is ridiculous. Is he claiming to be injured?

[roytennisfan]

He has watched Rafa on clay and knows he couldn't win and doesn't want a drubbing before Wimbledon

[patlowe]

http://bbc.in/2pOoiPm

[RosieBear]

Well knock me down with a feather, Fed not playing French to target Wimbo:shocked:. I've feared this since Aus.:hide: Even if Andy regains form, Fed is going to be a huge threat on the grass. Can't say I think it's great, but if he's allowed to skip RG and he's willing to forego the points the I guess it's up to him.

[WimbledonWestie]

Pretty much sums up my thoughts!

[Alis]

It was obvious that he wouldn't play RG without having any clay court practice leading up to it. Fed has no chance of winning the French and his sights this year have always been on Wimbledon - he know it's his best chance of another Major.

[themass15]

Scary

[lovetennis]

Didn't see that coming.....NOT. Always knew he would drop RG to throw everything at Wimby. I've got tickets for the final and won't be at all surprised if he is there

[sir coolerking]

Can't blame him, he's not going to have any chance of winning it so why bother. If Rafa had any sense he'd do the same with the grass court season.

Federer will now almost certainly be the number 5 seed at Wimbledon unless they choose to seed him differently (which they could). I doubt anyone would want him as a prospective QF opponent.

[suttontennis]

I thought players were fined if they didn't show for the premier mandatory events. Isn't that the whole point of the events, the best players on show. Aside from that it makes perfect sense for Roger not to play any clay events.

[Teresa]

What's the betting AM gets him?

[JAMES4578]

Can't blame him, he's not going to have any chance of winning it so why bother. If Rafa had any sense he'd do the same with the grass court season.

Federer will now almost certainly be the number 5 seed at Wimbledon unless they choose to seed him differently (which they could). I doubt anyone would want him as a prospective QF opponent.

For some time though Wimbledon have used a grass court formulae for the Men's seeds rather than a committee, Federer will will likely be in top 4. Men's Seeds (http://www.britishtennis.com/tickets/wseeds.shtml)

[sir coolerking]

For some time though Wimbledon have used a grass court formulae for the Men's seeds rather than a committee, Federer will surely be placed above Nadal. Men's Seeds (http://www.britishtennis.com/tickets/wseeds.shtml)

Looks to me like Federer will get an 1800 point bonus to his ranking. Question is, will Rafa earn more than 1650 points from Rome and Paris combined to top that? On current form, yes!!

Actually, most likely scenario is that Stan will drop out of the top 4, in fact he could drop below Raonic too.

[patlowe]

I thought players were fined if they didn't show for the premier mandatory events. Isn't that the whole point of the events, the best players on show. Aside from that it makes perfect sense for Roger not to play any clay events.
I hope this is right, but I think after a certain age....30?? players have more freedom to pick and choose what tournaments they play in without being penalised?? I remember it being discussed on this forum, but can't remember which thread it was on! It might even be much earlier on this thread!!

[david1610]

Fair enough. I am not an out and out fan of Roger because of... (fill in the blanks!) but he has played more matches and given more to tennis than any other player currently playing (that would certainly be the view of most members of the tennis public) and if he wants to play for as long as he can I do not begrudge him that.

[Alis]

I am sure someone will tell us chapter and verse of the rules but my memory tells me that, if a player is over 30 and has played a required number of tournaments, then they can claim certain exemptions without penalty.

[anor]

Saddo that I am, I checked the rules last night and as Fed meets all 3 criteria for exemptions (over 30, 600 wins and 12 years ATP service) he can skip all Masters if he wishes without penalty. :Grrr: Interestingly Andy will earn that right next year (birthday too late for 2017).

[patlowe]

Saddo that I am, I checked the rules last night and as Fed meets all 3 criteria for exemptions (over 30, 600 wins and 12 years ATP service) he can skip all Masters if he wishes without penalty. :Grrr: Interestingly Andy will earn that right next year (birthday too late for 2017).
Thank you Rona. Helpful info. And also you answered a question I was going to ask! I had been wondering if that rule would apply to Andy straight away now he has turned 30 or would he have to wait till next season! Djok will earn the same right next year too!

[Rosalind]

Roger is at the Middleton wedding. I'm refraining from commenting further.

[lynne]

:laugh::laugh:Knew somebody would mention the wedding, I did like what Mirka was wearing! :wave:

[lynne]

Saddo that I am, I checked the rules last night and as Fed meets all 3 criteria for exemptions (over 30, 600 wins and 12 years ATP service) he can skip all Masters if he wishes without penalty. :Grrr: Interestingly Andy will earn that right next year (birthday too late for 2017).


Interesting, thanks anor!!:thumbup:

[Alis]

Roger is at the Middleton wedding. I'm refraining from commenting further.

I wonder if they paid him appearance money?

[Josephine]

:rolling:

[Rosalind]

I wonder if they paid him appearance money?

Well there's a thought. But as I tweeted to Pseudofed earlier today -'she's a commoner - what are you thinking !'

[karanga]

What is Federer doing in England - preparing for Wimbledon?!!! Does he have access to a court there?


:cauldron: :getcoat:

:knight:

[Linda]

As a member (all Wimbledon champions are given honorary membership), he will be able to practise at Wimbledon.

[Monica]

Don't think he can practice on the championship courts though.

[Linda]

No.

[Sallydaisy]

Well there's a thought. But as I tweeted to Pseudofed earlier today -'she's a commoner - what are you thinking !'
I believe they had a pingpong table set up so Rog could get some hitting practice ...
;)

[lynne]

From Nial Smith Design...........



Les 4 Fantastiques



#RogerFederer will be mostly invisible at RG


https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18622285_1444522138947702_6745171824014703225_n.pn g?oh=0b44dadd4d8581c742f6031a477be90e&oe=59AC1507



Sitting it out again Rog!!!:rolleyes:

[patlowe]

I see Rog is playing in Stuttgart next week...#1 seed! Has a round 1 bye but will play either Haas or PH Herbert in second round.

[roytennisfan]

Yes Roger doing 2 grass warm-ups before Wimbledon, Halle the following week

[roytennisfan]

Roger, humble as ever "i'm tired of being a practice world champion"....and say's he is going to play rest of year with no more breaks

[sir coolerking]

Am I the only one who finds his new haircut somewhat un-nerving? Kind of glad he's taken till his mid 30's to finally get it cut short.

[Alis]

Fed looking horribly good for his first outing on grass.

[themass15]

Although he has dropped his serve once

[Jane]

Come on Tommy Haas :thumbup:

[Jane]

Yessss - one set all :dance:

[themass15]

So pleased Tommy (who I used think was drop dead gorgeous) has taken the 2nd set!

[sir coolerking]

Tommy a break up in the final set........

[themass15]

Rock on Tommy!

[Alis]

Fed not looking so good in the second and third sets. C'monnnnn Tommy - do it for Valentina!

[Jane]

:yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: - well done Tommy

[themass15]

Well that was a lovely surprise.

[Alis]

Great stuff!! :cheer::cheer::cheer: Well done, Tommy! Seemingly that was the oldest ATP match for 35 years.

[themass15]

Oldest ATP match player possibly Alis

[Alis]

I think what they meant was Tommy at 39 years and Fed at 35 years together were collectively the oldest opponents in a match in 35 years.

[patlowe]

So pleased Tommy (who I used think was drop dead gorgeous) has taken the 2nd set!

Don't you think he still is. Still looks pretty easy on the eye to me!!;)

[patlowe]

Managed to see the last set. Really enjoyed some lovely tennis, esp the backhands. And well done Tommy!! And I like the hair, Rog!!

[Hawkeye]

Don't you think he still is. Still looks pretty easy on the eye to me!!;)
Not any more, he's a Haas-been...

[patlowe]

Not any more, he's a Haas-been...

:help: :laugh:

[roytennisfan]

Obviously reduces Roger's chances of being #2 seed at Wimbledon but that is still possible if he wins Halle because he will definitely go above Rafa and Nole who are not playing next week... but a win by Stan at Queens would take him to #2

[themass15]

Obviously reduces Roger's chances of being #2 seed at Wimbledon but that is still possible if he wins Halle because he will definitely go above Rafa and Nole who are not playing next week... but a win by Stan at Queens would take him to #2

Feel that is pretty unlikely unless the grass has changed at Queens.

[Josephine]

Probably better for Fed to be No 2 seed so Andy can avoid him until the final (potentially). Someone else might take him out in semi like last year.

[lovetennis]

Well, well, well...Fed comes a cropper. Well done Tommy :thumbup:

[karanga]

:swingin: Well done Tommy.

[JAMES4578]

Great win for Tommy in his last year on tour, well done:clap::clap: (4th win over Federer overall) Bit of a blow for Fed, though may not mean much in the scheme of things.

[RosieBear]

I know some people don't like Fed's plain speaking, but I do, and he's spot on in the paraphrased article from The Times that I've paste below. The reason he's still at the top aged 36 and that the younger players can't displace him is they simply do not have enough variation in their games. They can either get huffy about his comments or have the strength to heed good advice which Fed is not obliged to give.

Roger Federer: The next generation is not strong enough, I wish they volleyed more'


Roger Federer criticises the tactics of younger players after eighth title, Stuart Fraser writes

When it was put to Federer yesterday that the men’s tour is lacking young pretenders, he was candid in his response.

“Every generation definitely is different,” Federer said. “Since my generation and Rafa’s generation, the next one hasn’t been strong enough to push all of us out really, so that has been helpful for us to stick around.”

Federer gave the impression that he was distinctly unimpressed by the lack of variety in the game of many of the younger players at Wimbledon this year. The grass courts may be slower than in years gone by, but some seem reluctant to venture towards the net at all, preferring to grind out long rallies from the baseline.

“They can choose not to play that way, too, if the coach has taught them to play differently,” Federer said. “I know you can easily get sucked into that mode when you don’t want to attack, but if you can’t volley you aren’t going to go to the net.

“I have played almost every player here that wouldn’t serve and volley. It’s frightening to me, to see this at this level. I look at the stats and go into whichever round it is and see that the guy I’m going to face is playing 2 per cent of serve and volley throughout the championships. I’m going, ‘OK, I know he’s not going to serve and volley’, which is great.

"I wish that we would see more players taking chances up at the net because good things do happen there. You want to be there and have to spend some time up there to feel confident and good there.”

It was then put to Federer that players were perhaps opting to follow the lead of Andy Murray and Novak Djokovic, who play many of their shots from the baseline. “They are very different,” Federer replied. “Andy has a lot of variety but, yes, a slugfest with Andy and Novak from the baseline, or Rafa for that matter, good luck. If you are No 50 in the world, it is not so simple to take them out.”

[Rosalind]

Whilst I may not be a Fed supporter, imo he's the most talented natural player I've ever seen.

[pabbers]

Agree RB. I'm not a Fed fan either other than his tennis but I also admire his willingness to try different things. It would be very easy for him to take the attitude that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. I firmly believe that if Andy had a more open approach to new stuff he'd have been #1 ages ago. How many years did we spend wishing he'd be more aggressive? And when he finally tried it, it worked! I still scream at him to come to the net but he's not confident enough because he doesn't do it enough. One weakness IMHO is that he's not instinctive about WHEN to Cole to the net so he misses easy chances and chooses to come in at more difficult moments. That's just lack of experience. When Roger was first coached by Edberg he fluffed net shots quite a bit but he persisted with good effect.

[super8]

I'd agree with what Roger has said. There's a whole court there to be used, and players have been approaching the net to gain tactical advantages since the game was invented pretty much. Most players play safety first now - poor risk takers, when the speed of the courts offers possibilities to really take time away from opponents and exert pressure on them. Plus, players are so used to moving from side to side and aren't comfortable at all with moving forward - and shouldn't a tactic be to do what the your opponent would like least for you to do?

Players now usually only come to the net for 2 reasons:

1. To finish off the point where the player is on the ropes already and can't do much else anyway;
2. To pick up a drop shot so have been forced to the net.

Andy can do this but it's definitely a mental thing - and as you mentioned Pabbers, I am also convinced that he'd have more success if he were able to incorporate this into his game. And I'm glad that Roger mentioned the variety of Andy's game. He has the tools (gold in the mine, as Rosie mentioned) - and there is still time for him to utilise that more, should he be able to adopt some of that mindset. He's got the hands, the technique - him and Fed the most naturally gifted on the tour imo.

[RosieBear]

Completely agree with Mrs P and Super8 re Andy; the s&v talent is there in bucketloads it's a confidence/mental issue of when to come in to best effect. Shaping a 'new normal' that Andy's confident in won't be easy but it can be done. Personally I'd love to see him really commit to trying -say he comes back in Aug/Sept he could commit to playing aggressive s&v for the rest of the year come what may resultswise to give it a fair crack of the whip. Even if Andy was superfit I'd think it sensible to utilise his variety and touch more, but given the concerns over his body I'm of the view that reshaping his game will become crucial.

[Josephine]

Serve and volley works best for grass. Not quite the same for hard court and quite right Andy needs to be more aggresive, but I think Federer was talking mainly about Wimbledon and the stats there on S&V.

[super8]

Serve and volley works best for grass. Not quite the same for hard court and quite right Andy needs to be more aggresive, but I think Federer was talking mainly about Wimbledon and the stats there on S&V.

I think you're right that Federer was talking mainly about Wimbledon.

BUT - there was a lot of talk at the Australian Open about the courts there being lightning fast this year. Plus the US Open courts can be pretty quick. And there's often commentary about how fast hard courts are playing this year (always happens at year end finals).

Just generally speaking, netplay is a useful weapon, even to keep your opponent honest. And if courts are playing quickly then it's at least an option that a player can then incorporate into their matchplay - and Andy is generally a master at changing his tactics during matches (a real advantage that he has over Novak for example). Mischa Zverev's win over Andy in Melbourne is a prime example of netplay coming good - albeit a relatively rare one!

I wouldn't advocate just charging to the net all the time. And as Pabbers mentions it is a judgement call that might be difficult to get right. It's possible to incorporate netplay on slow courts too, but the margin for error is much lower. And definitely requires a mindset change to adopt - even Fed was reluctant to do this initially - and he is probably the only active player on the ATP tour to S&V his way to a slam title!

I think, bottom line is that Fed is saying that too many players are unable to change their game styles to truly challenge the big 4 when the requirement is to adopt different tactics. The racquet strings, the slower courts, the gymn work, everyone is doing - but to get to the next level requires more than just a good engine and ability to engage in attritional baseline hitting. It's something Andy could use to his advantage if the option works well for him in matchplay. Maybe playing doubles with his brother could help him more with this, should he pursue this option further (which I hope he does at some point).

[banskogirl]

Would love Andy to come back finishing everything as quickly as we can, from our sofas! :) It might be the new plan, I know he was really in pain at Wimbledon but if he had finished the Querrey match in 3 who knows..............

[karanga]

According to the Daily Tennis News, newly crowned eight-time Wimbledon champion Roger Federer has half an eye on the No. 1 ranking after rising back to third in the world with 6-3, 6-1, 6-4 defeat of Marin Cilic in a high-voltage weekend final at the All England Club. :grrr:

[Linda]

High voltage? More like a damp squib.

[jagmad]

High voltage? More like a damp squib.

High voltage?? More like a watch battery.

Or actually a Don't watch battery

[Alis]

To be fair, that wasn't Fed's fault.

[jagmad]

To be fair, that wasn't Fed's fault.

Don't think anyone was trying to apportion blame.
Just pointing out the opinion of the reporter was way off????
Well it was for an impartial spectator, imo.

Although, high voltage could be used if you're someone like Sue Barker. Maybe?
Just watching Fed probably blows all her devices.

[karanga]

https://twitter.com/CoupeRogers/status/892501576383963136

Fed confirmed for Montreal. He's definitely now targeting the #1 ranking as well as the USO Open.

[themass15]

Stan has withdrawn. Must still have his knee injury.

[cazza99]

Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tennis/2017/08/08/roger-federers-kryptonite-discovered-36th-birthday-doesnt/) - Roger Federer's kryptonite discovered on 36th birthday - he's afraid of dogs

[Bardot]

Roger being very nice about "Andy" (not "Murray" :p) in his pre-tournament interview. At 4:25 if you don't want the preamble. ;)


https://youtu.be/z-FHY-cAo-Y?t=264

[ljs]

Roger has become much nicer in his old age , however all those years of digs at Andy still remain in my memory im afraid

[ljs]

Did you guys see these B-Day wishes for Fed on twitter ?
Rafa telling Roger to stop winning and let the younger ones have something :lol:

https://twitter.com/tennistv/status/894950568799617024

[Bardot]

Now that we're all Fed fans, there will be a collective delight that he's won the Sportsmanship and Comeback Player of the Year and Fan's Favourite awards. :p ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOOB_kLVAAAf01e.jpg

Other awards:

Fan Favorite Doubles Team - Bob and Mike Bryan

Humanitarian of the Year - Horia Tecau

Most Improved - Denis Shapovalov

Coach of the Year - Neville Godwin (Kevin Anderson) who he's just split with. :shrug:

[lynne]

Love your sense of humour Bardot!! :big grin::thumbup:

[RoastLamb]

Well at least Denis won something. :thumbup:

Those brotherly Bryans always win. Soooooooooooooo boring!

[clancy]

One day it will be the Murray brothers!

[sir coolerking]

Why did Federer beat Nadal for Comeback Player of the Year? They both won 2 Slams but Rafa is well ahead on ranking points.

[RoastLamb]

Those brotherly Bryans :lol: I stand by my original comment. :lol: