BARCLAYS ATP WORLD TOUR FINALS, Mon 5th - Mon 12th November 2012. Tournament thread - Information

[Sallydaisy]

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BARCLAYS ATP WORLD TOUR FINALS
The O2 Arena, Peninsula Square, London, SE10 0DX
WEB SITE: http://www.barclaysatpworldtourfinals.com
WIKIPEDIA LINK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATP_World_Tour_Finals

FORMAT
8 Players & 8 Doubles Teams
SURFACE: INDOOR HARD
BALL: HEAD/ATP

Dates: NOVEMBER 5-12, 2012
Singles and doubles draw: tba
Entry deadline: November 5, 2012
Seeding: tba

SINGLES PLAYERS
1 Roger Federer SUI (10/8/12)
2 Novak Djokovic SRB (10/8/12)
3 Rafael Nadal ESP (10/8/12)
4 Andy Murray GBR (10/9/12)
5 David Ferrer ESP (15/10/12)
6 tbd
7 tbd
8 tbd
Alternates
1 tbd
2 tbd

DOUBLES PLAYERS
Entry deadline: November 5, 2012
Seeding: tba
1 Max Mirnyi BLR/Daniel Nestor CAN (10/8/12)
2 Bob Bryan USA/Mike Bryan USA (13/8/12)
3 Robert Lindstedt SWE/Horia Tecau ROU (20/8/12)
4 Leander Paes IND/Radek Stepanek CZE (7/10/12)
5 tbd
6 tbd
7 tbd
8 Jonathan Marray GBR/Frederik Nielsen DEN (15/10/12)
Alternates
1 tbd
2 tbd

ATP Ranking Points and Prize Money Allocation
(Total US $5,500,000)
The ATP World Tour Finals currently rewards the following points and prize money:





$1,630,000
$287,500
1,500


$770,000
$125,000
500


$380,000
$30,000
400


$120,000
$22,500
200


$120,0002
$65,0003
–


$70,000
$25,000
–






1 Prize money for doubles is per team.
2 Pro-rated on a per-match basis: $70,000 = 1 match, $95,000 = 2 matches, $120,000 = 3 matches
3 Pro-rated on a per-match basis: $30,000 = 1 match, $50,000 = 2 matches, $65,000 = 3 matches


SCHEDULE OF PLAY
Until there is OFFICIAL confirmation of the OOP this is the planned schedule.
There is no indication as yet as to which group plays first so Days 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 could be reversed.

Day 1: Group A to start
Day 2: Group B on 2nd day
Day 3: Group A winners play each other, Group A losers play each other
Day 4: Groub B winners play each other, Group B losers play each other
Day 5: Group A players play the player they haven't yet played in their group
Day 6: Group B players play the player they haven't yet played in their group
Day 7: Winner of Grp A plays the R/Up of Group B, Winner of Grp B plays the R/Up of Group A.
Day 8: Winners of the matches on Day 7 play.

Each Day session has 1 doubles and 1 singles match. Ditto night session.

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[Sallydaisy]

space for rules/points etc

[Sallydaisy]

With his Quarter Final win at Flushing Meadows today Andy is definitely through to the WTF.

Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes (https://twitter.com/NeilHarmanTimes)
Andy Murray's victory today guarantees him a spot in the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals in November



:thumbup:

Also in so far are Roger Federer, Novak Djokovic and Rafael Nadal (if he is fit to play).

[LC the fan]

On the ATP website there's a nice video of Andy talking about reaching the finals for the 5th time

[Sallydaisy]

Qualification confirmation:

@ATPtennis Ferrer, Marray/Nielsen Qualify For Barclays ATP World Tour Finals http://dlvr.it/2KJFDf (http://t.co/qag19tD2)

and this is a real wait and see .....

Steven ‏@GBtennis (https://twitter.com/GBtennis) Doubles race: @colin_fleming (https://twitter.com/colin_fleming) (up 6 to 25 in the doubles rankings) &
@RoscoHutchins (https://twitter.com/RoscoHutchins) (up 5 to 28) move up 2 to 9th, effectively 2nd alt. posn
Fingers crossed for the lads but it might be a tall order to overtake anyone else to guarantee the 1st Alt place.

SINGLES EVENT
Qualified: Djokovic, Federer, Murray, Nadal, Ferrer

In the Running:

6 Tomas Berdych (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Tomas-Berdych.aspx)
Boosts chances with Shanghai SF run 4,080

7 Juan Martin del Potro (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Juan-Martin-Del-Potro.aspx)
Bids to qualify for first time since 2009 3,670

8 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jo-Wilfried-Tsonga.aspx)
Lost to Berdych in Shanghai QFs 3,295

9 Janko Tipsarevic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Janko-Tipsarevic.aspx)
Defeated by Haas in Shanghai 3R 2,810

10 Nicolas Almagro (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Nicolas-Almagro.aspx)
Fell to Haas in Shanghai R1 2,425

11 Richard Gasquet (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Richard-Gasquet.aspx)
Beaten by Stepanek in Shanghai R2 2,370

12 Juan Monaco (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Juan-Monaco.aspx)
Lost Shanghai opener to Verdasco 2,340

13 Milos Raonic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Milos-Raonic.aspx)
Edged out by Baghdatis in Shanghai R2 2,290

14 John Isner (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/John-Isner.aspx)
Bowed out in Shanghai 3R to Stepanek 2,205

15 Marin Cilic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Marin-Cilic.aspx)
Fell to Federer in Shanghai QFs 2,150


DOUBLES EVENT
Qualified:
1 Bryan/Bryan
2 Mirnyi/Nestor
3 Paes/Stepanek
4 Lindstedt/Tecau
10 Marray/Nielsen

In the Running:
5 Marcel Granollers/ (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Marcel-Granollers.aspx)Marc Lopez (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Marc-Lopez.aspx)
4,270

6 Mahesh Bhupathi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Mahesh-Bhupathi.aspx)/Rohan Bopanna (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Rohan-Bopanna.aspx)
3,455

7 Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Aisam-Ul-Haq-Qureshi.aspx) Jean-Julien Rojer (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Jean-Julien-Rojer.aspx)
3,425

8 Mariusz Fyrstenberg (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Mariusz-Fyrstenberg.aspx)/Marcin Matkowski (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Marcin-Matkowski.aspx)
3,330

9 Colin Fleming (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Colin-Fleming.aspx)/Ross Hutchins (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Ross-Hutchins.aspx)
2,285

11 David Marrero (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/David-Marrero.aspx)/Fernando Verdasco (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Fernando-Verdasco.aspx)
1,950

[Sallydaisy]

Quick link to the ATP World Tour Final website with updated information on players qualifying.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Finals/2012.aspx?__utma=1.1204182069.1323004387.135041100 3.1350467226.115&__utmb=1.10.9.1350467593529&__utmc=1&__utmx=-&__utmz=1.1350235596.108.23.utmcsr=andymurrayfanfor um.com|utmccn=%28referral%29|utmcmd=referral|utmcc t=/forums/showthread.php&__utmv=-&__utmk=91730074

[xenon21]

According to Neil Harman Nadal is out of WTF. He will be missed but realistically who really thought he would make it?

[Guerkins2]

Has anyone heard when the groups are going to be announced? Part of me thinks it might be really late this year as what happens next week in Paris could change who qualifies and in which place apart from Andy, Djoko And Federer of course.

[Hawkeye]

DelPo's qualification is confirmed.

[hfwardhouse]

Has anyone heard when the groups are going to be announced? Part of me thinks it might be really late this year as what happens next week in Paris could change who qualifies and in which place apart from Andy, Djoko And Federer of course.

Not heard yet - moved your post to this thread rather than the tickets and who's going thread :)

[Sallydaisy]

Fingers crossed ......

DavidLaw ‏@DavidLawTennis (https://twitter.com/DavidLawTennis) The Times reporting the ATP World Tour Finals getting very close to finalising
a two-year extension for the event to remain in London.

[patmoren]

That is a really exciting proposition. The finals have been so successful in London.

[Alis]

Some of the pundits have suggested that London should be the permanent home for the WTF. It is very popular with players and commentators, it's central and it draws capacity crowds - fingers crossed.

[themass15]

Would be absolutely fantastic if that happened!!!

[Linda]

I'd heard that it was going to Brazil :confused:

[Caro]

Some of the pundits have suggested that London should be the permanent home for the WTF. It is very popular with players and commentators, it's central and it draws capacity crowds - fingers crossed.

....... and it's close to the end of season tournaments in Europe so more convenient for the players.

[Hawkeye]

I thought it was relatively unpopular due to UK tax laws?

[Alis]

.......... perhaps but they love the VIP treatment they get and I think most of them find London quite convenient - they are coming from European tournaments and most of the qualifiers are European.

[JAMES4578]

Whilst London may get the event for another few years,just can't see it being a permanent host. The end of year championships has been moved around the globe for some time.

[cazza99]

London is also close to Paris, so less jetlag for those playing in Paris just before the ATP finals.

[Hawkeye]

Tsonga and Tipsy "complete" the line-up.

[rk350]

They really have got themselves into a mess scheduling these two events back to back. Not even a day in between! I can see at least two obvious problems. Firstly, the order of the seeds might not be known until after the final in Paris! And there may be two players in the Paris final who are put in different groups in London, therefore one of them would presumably have to play on Monday, the day after the final! What a farce, they've managed to screw up two good tournaments with this scheduling!

[Guerkins2]

You've got a 50/50 chance of seeing Andy - the first three years of this event it opened on a Sunday (6 days after the conclusion of Paris) and we gambled on them playing Andy on that day because of appealing to weekend crowds - there were groups of school kids there, etc. The first two years this theory worked, but on the third year they played Andy on the Monday - in retrospect they probably took this decision because of the injury he was carrying, to give him an extra recovery day...

The resolution of that was that we sold our Sunday tickets on eBay and combined that money to buy tickets to Andy's session on the Monday - for what ended up being the only match Andy played at the WTF last year. However, obviously with the quick turnaround between Paris and the WTF, nobody knows what's going on and so that's an option closed off. :(

My Dad's firm getting increasingly antsy - unless it gets announced today, there will probably be no Andy (or any live tennis at all) for me this year... :( :( :(

Take care... :)

Sorry if you are not able to go. Neil Harman tweeted he thinks it will be announced tomorrow, but it's not official. https://twitter.com/neilharmantimes

[cazza99]

Thanks Guerkins2. Lets hope they announce it soon.

If anyone is going to the finals, or is thinking of going we have a thread to discuss this here.

http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?688-Barclays-ATP-World-Tour-Finals-2012-tickets-and-who-is-going/page15

[jaysee]

ATP site now says: Group Standings (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/Finals-Group-Standings-2012.aspx) (Available Saturday)
and the page that takes you to says draw is 1.45pm

[rainy days]

Draw

Group A:
Djokovic
Murray
Berdych
Tsonga

Group B:
Federer
Ferrer
Del Potro
Tipsarevic

[jaysee]

Andy in Nole's Group

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser Grp A: Djokovic, Murray, Berdych, Tsonga. Grp B: Federer, Ferrer, Del Potro, Tipsarevic. #ATPTourFinals (http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/search?q=%23ATPTourFinals&src=hash)

[cazza99]

Nooo. I had hoped that Andy would be in the same group as Del Potty and Tipsy.

[jaysee]

If Andy can get to the semi's, that means he won't face Nole in the semi - I reckon that's got to be good for an Andy v Nole final! Just hoping...

[cazza99]

Mind you, when Andy had difficult draws earlier in the year he did well in the tournaments.

[rainy days]

Group A has the highest seeds possible. Kinda mad. Seems like being the 2nd seed should be the goal these days? lol

[Sallydaisy]

If Andy can get to the semi's, that means he won't face Nole in the semi - I reckon that's got to be good for an Andy v Nole final! Just hoping...

Best for Andy is to win his 3 RR matches. Then he'll lead Group A and play the 2nd placed in Group B in the Semi (hopefully 1 of DelP, Ferrer or Tipsy).
Assuming Nole is 2nd in A and Fed is 1st in B they'd play each other in the other Semi and one of them be knocked out!!!

[jaysee]

He can't play Nole in the Semi-Final because they are in the same group.

That's what I meant. I reckon he's got a better chance in the semi against any of the Group B players (including Fed) than against Nole. Then the real top-2 would meet in the final! Just the little matter of getting to the semis first...

[SamP]

Can't believe i'm going to have to endure RF for the fourth year in a row. I'm going Thursday night, he's bound to be playing then.

I shouldn't sound so peeved at seeing the greatest player ever, but c'mon, i've been every year and still haven't seen Djoko or Rafa :(

[Sallydaisy]

That's what I meant. I reckon he's got a better chance in the semi against any of the Group B players (including Fed) than against Nole. Then the real top-2 would meet in the final! Just the little matter of getting to the semis first...
Yep, I had mis-read your post so edited mine almost immediately.

[RoastLamb]

Fed has Ferru and Tipsy - snore!!! :grrr:

[jaysee]

@piersnewbery (http://twitter.com/piersnewbery) ATP Finals organisers are hopeful of getting the order of play for Monday and Tuesday out later today.

[JAMES4578]

I know there's obviously advantages in terms of the semis and we all hope Andy will be there! However, obviously Andy and indeed Nole have the tougher group. Certainly we should see some great matches,sure Andy can rise to the challenge!

[Sallydaisy]

Andy will open the 2012 World Tour Finals on Monday Afternoon.
Andy vs Tomas Berdych 2pm, Djokovic v Tsonga 8pm

There is a doubles match before each singles match; details tbc once Paris is finalised.

[HenFan]

Andy will open the 2012 World Tour Finals on Monday Afternoon.
Andy vs Tomas Berdych 2pm, Djokovic v Tsonga 8pm

There is a doubles match before each singles match; details tbc once Paris is finalised.

Where did you find this info? Can't find it on the ATP's site - I thought it'd be Andy vs. Berdych!! :)

Take care... :)

[cazza99]

Sky have just announced it.

[Sallydaisy]

Where did you find this info?
Can't find it on the ATP's site - I thought it'd be Andy vs. Berdych!! :)

Take care... :)
From journalist Piers Newbury. Official sites always take forever to update!!!
It's pukka - honestly!


Piers Newbery ‏@piersnewbery (https://twitter.com/piersnewbery) ATP Finals: Murray v Berdych on Monday at 2pm (live on BBC 2/web/sports extra),
Djokovic v Tsonga at 8pm (5 live sports extra). #bbctennis (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23bbctennis&src=hash)

[cazza99]

Also Jonathan Overend

Jonathan Overend ‏@5livetennis

Murray v Berdych Mon afternoon, Djokovic v Tsonga at night. Federer will be Tues afternoon.

Jonathan Overend ‏@5livetennis

Wednesday afternoon ticket holders, I would anticipate, have the luck... That'll probably be Murray v Djokovic if they both win Monday.

[supergran]

Just heard the news from Barry Cowan. Damn...I'm there Tue pm. So will see Fed again.:grrr::grrr:

[cazza99]

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser

Moments after being drawn in same group, Murray & Djokovic on court for a hit. Lendl in town. #ATPTourFinals pic.twitter.com/Qyngwl2y

[ljs]

Just heard the news from Barry Cowan. Damn...I'm there Tue pm. So will see Fed again.:grrr::grrr:

my condolences :lol:

[hfwardhouse]

And I'm there Sat pm so I may have to endure the Fed as well :eek:

[LC the fan]

We're there on tuesday so cheering whoever is playing Fed. Also there on wednesday afternoon and just keeping my fingers crossed that Andy will be playing the first session. Will be most upset if he has the evening match since I was there for the match that he pulled out of last year.
Pretty sure that if it is Andy v Djok it will be the evening though :grrr: :grrr: curses, curses

[supergran]

We're there on tuesday so cheering whoever is playing Fed. Also there on wednesday afternoon and just keeping my fingers crossed that Andy will be playing the first session. Will be most upset if he has the evening match since I was there for the match that he pulled out of last year.
Pretty sure that if it is Andy v Djok it will be the evening though :grrr: :grrr: curses, cursesI was there last year for Andy's match and now I won't see him unless I catch him practising on Tuesday morning. And, like you will be cheering loudly for Fed's opponent...Is it Tipsy?

[LC the fan]

I know there's obviously advantages in terms of the semis and we all hope Andy will be there! However, obviously Andy and indeed Nole have the tougher group. Certainly we should see some great matches,sure Andy can rise to the challenge!

Consoling myself that Andy has had 2 really tough draws this year....the Olympics and the US Open.

[rainy days]

We're there on tuesday so cheering whoever is playing Fed. Also there on wednesday afternoon and just keeping my fingers crossed that Andy will be playing the first session. Will be most upset if he has the evening match since I was there for the match that he pulled out of last year.
Pretty sure that if it is Andy v Djok it will be the evening though :grrr: :grrr: curses, curses

I'm pretty sure his second match will be the night session and that Murray vs. Djokovic will be on Friday, also at night. But maybe you'll get lucky. :)

[Elenive]

Yay, we get to see another Andy vs Nole epic!!!! (Hopefully going Andy's way of course :thumbup:)

Also, Tipsy might have been a better opponent for the last place in Group A, but glad Potty isn't with Andy, so all is fine, should be some good round robin matches in there :swingin:

[LC the fan]

Just hope that Ivan has given Andy some advice on winning match points !!! Cant believe he keeps serving for a match and dropping it

[supergran]

Just hope that Ivan has given Andy some advice on winning match points !!! Cant believe he keeps serving for a match and dropping it Forget that...let it drop!;):lol:

[RFS]

Awww LC but I am hoping for the evening if it is Weds as I have those tix (Weds/Thurs evening) ... I did ask my friend if he could manage a whole day but alas we used up uber holiday with journo exams....

I cannot wait though - last tennis if the year and it would be Amazeballs if they make London the permanent home!

[JAMES4578]

I'm pretty sure his second match will be the night session and that Murray vs. Djokovic will be on Friday, also at night. But maybe you'll get lucky. :)

If both Andy and Nole win their first matches, they will definitely play at some point on Wednesday.

[cazza99]

Television scheduling - http://www.atpworldtour.com/Finals/2012/News/Tennis/2012/TV-Schedule/TV-Schedule.aspx

National Television Broadcasters

Monday, 5 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 1:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 1:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. LIVE
Sky Sports 2 & HD2 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Tuesday, 6 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 1:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 1:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. LIVE
Sky Sports 3 & HD3 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Wednesday, 7 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 1:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 1:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. LIVE
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Thursday, 8 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 1:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 1:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. LIVE
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Friday, 9 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 1:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 1:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. LIVE
Sky Sports 2 & HD2 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Saturday, 10 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 1:30 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 1:45 p.m. - 5:15 p.m. LIVE
Sky Sports 3 & HD3 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Sunday, 11 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 12:00 p.m. - 4:00 p.m. LIVE
BBC 2 & HD 2:00 p.m. - 4:50 p.m. LIVE (first semi-final)
Sky Sports 3 & HD3 6:00 p.m. - 10:00 p.m. LIVE

Monday, 12 November, 2012
Sky Sports 1 & HD1 5:30 p.m. - 8:00 p.m. LIVE (singles and doubles finals)
BBC 2 & HD 7:30 p.m. - 11:00 p.m. LIVE (singles final from 8:00 p.m.)

[rainy days]

If both Andy and Nole win their first matches, they will definitely play at some point on Wednesday.

Not convinced that's going to happen.

[cazza99]

It looks like they are not televising the first doubles round robin matches which are before the afternoon singles. But it looks like Sky is televising the evening doubles matches.

[xenon21]

Very tough draw for Andy and Novak alike! Group of death and Andy will have to play very well from the word go... Federer's group is pretty good though

[super8]

I'll be going to 4 sessions, if not more.

I really like this tournament, I have to say (in spite of my gripes about their scheduling and the ad rule for the doubles!).

Interesting that London is apparently close to securing the tournament for another 2 years. That's a total bonus for those of us in the uk, I'd say.

[cazza99]

The ATP oop is here - http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2012/605/op.pdf

[cazza99]

Jonathan Overend ‏@5livetennis

For all those asking (including my producer!) there is no doubles schedule yet because the Paris final affects the seedings..

Jonathan Overend ‏@5livetennis

Also news that @RoscoHutchins and @colin_fleming are the doubles alternates. The Poles decided not to come.

[Sallydaisy]

The doubles draw has been done
(https://twitter.com/NeilHarmanTimes) A) Bryans, Paes,/Stepanek; Lopez/Granollers, Qureshi/Rojer.
B) Mirnyi/Nestor; Lindstedt/Tecau, Bhupathi/Bopanna and Marray/Nielsen

First Alts are Fleming/Hutchins after Fyrstenberg/Matkowski decided not to attend.




Neil Harman ‏@NeilHarmanTimes (https://twitter.com/NeilHarmanTimes) Doubles draw:A) Bryans, Paes,/Stepanek; Lopez/Gran, Qureshi/Rojer. B) Mirnyi/Nestor; Lindstedt/Tecau, Bhupathi/Bopanna and Marray/Nielsen

[Sallydaisy]

Tuesday 6th November OOP
From 12 - Bhupathi/Bopanna v. Marray/Nielsen f/b The Fed v. Tipsarevic.
From 6: Paes/Step v Qureshi/Rojer; Ferrer v. Delpo

[themass15]

For anyone who is interested there are tickets on sale for all sessions at the 02 next week and in very good seats too!

[Linda]

Surprise surprise! Every year they are "sold out" until the day before it starts!

[WimbledonAce]

Happy with how the groups worked out, managed to avoid the match I didn't want, berdy v tipsy! Looking forward to finding out who I will be watching. Nice video and photos from gala lastnight, shame Mr F was still in Paris though.

[cazza99]

Just realised that Sky is covering every day from 12.00 noon and not from later on as mentioned in some TV schedules:):)

[RoastLamb]

Stunning match between Team USA and Team Spain TS clinching the W in the CTB. Fantastic stuff!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Linda]

M&M beat the Bryans! Woohoo! :clap: :clap: :cheer: :cheer:

[LC the fan]

A great Doubles - just wish they would televise more dubs. They say there's no interest but there would be if we could see more matches like this one

[Linda]

Allez Jo! :swingin:

[LC the fan]

Pretty sure Andy's match will be wednesday evening and I'm gutted. Just wondering if I can persuade himself to treat me to yet another session rather than leave after the afternoon. I shall try.......

[ljs]

Djokovic looking vulnerable against Tsonga 5-5 1st set

[Alis]

Djoko certainly looking very average but Jo's missed a lot of chances.

[Craigenhogen]

Really want Tsonga to win this match, he's my 2nd favourite tennis player. I wonder if anyone can guess who's my favourite? :lol:

[david1610]

Well Nole and Andy did enough today, but Nole crucially did it in straights..... might be important come countback time.
On the other hand, Tsonga does not have a set yet.

[patmoren]

Slow start for Andy today but started to warm up towards the end.

[cazza99]

oop for Tuesday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/s...px?EventId=605

[xenon21]

Andy ideally needs to either beat Novak or get a set off him and beat tsonga in straights... And hopefully Novak will beat betdych

[RoastLamb]

Glad to see Danny and Max also scraped a victory this morning. Was hoping the full match would be on tennistv but they're only showing highlights. :(

[JAMES4578]

Neither Andy or Nole produced their best but crucially got the W and Murray was gutsy when he was up against it. Advantage to Djokovic right now though as he got the job done in straights,though Tsonga should have put him under more pressure. Certainly a few good doubles matches,though personally disappointed the Bryans went down.

[Sallydaisy]

I'm seeing confirmation on twitter that the Wednesday OOP will be:-

Afternoon (not before 2pm): Andy v Novak

Evening (not before 8pm): Tomas v Jo-Wilfried

[Elenive]

Interesting, thought they would have put Andy vs Nole in the evening since it's a blockbuster match up and we all expect a thriller...

[Swobes]

Now likely to see Andy v Tsonga on Friday evening then?

[Sallydaisy]

Now likely to see Andy v Tsonga on Friday evening then?
You'd hope so because a lot of British fans are missing seeing Andy play due to having to go to work!

Welcome to the forum Swobes!
:welcome:

[Sallydaisy]

Good to be watching Jonny/Freddie find their summer form and take the first set 6'4 against Bhupathi/Bopanna. It's going with serve again in the 2nd set with the Brit/Dane pairing at 4-3 and the Indian pair serving.

[Alis]

Perhaps they're putting Andy/Djoko on in the afternoon because the BBC are showing the afternoon sessions only. I suppose it gives those who don't have Sky a chance to record it.

[RoastLamb]

Great win for Marray and Freddie over Team India :yahoo:

[Sallydaisy]

Fantastic play from Jonny and Freddie to beat BhuBop in their first RR match at the O2.
A really close fought win 6'4, 6'7 (2), 11'9.
:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

It was a lovely match to watch too (on Fromsport) but now I guess it's the Beeb for the singles.
Although I'm really not sure I can cope with a drool fest over Federer who is unlikely to lose to Tipsy!!!

[Alis]

Well done Jonny and Freddie - great stuff!!!

[RoastLamb]

I had to watch this match on my hubby's laptop in the kitchen whilst making breakfasts and lunches for the family. Not easy. But it was so worth it. Three of my fave dubs teams have won so far, just one more to go...

[Bardot]

From the tv coverage it's noticeable the support for Federer is louder than for Andy yesterday. The O2 going public do like Andy but they like Federer so much more. I'm sure it doesn't bother Andy in the slightest.

[david1610]

From the tv coverage it's noticeable the support for Federer is louder than for Andy yesterday. The O2 going public do like Andy but they like Federer so much more. I'm sure it doesn't bother Andy in the slightest.
I wouldn't worry about it. I suspect Nole is ony just appearing on the radar to many, even after his last two amazing years. Andy will need another three or four slams I suspect. Just the reality of superficial v. actual knowledge of tennis and its players.
Nothing to be done really....

[Bardot]

I wouldn't worry about it. I suspect Nole is ony just appearing on the radar to many, even after his last two amazing years. Andy will need another three or four slams I suspect. Just the reality of superficial v. actual knowledge of tennis and its players.
Nothing to be done really....
At the end of the Federer match when it was announced there would be an on court presentation to Djokovic for being the year end #1 and winning the humanitarian award, there was some booing. Classy Fed fans.

[Jan]

great win for Jonny and Freddie! :clap::clap:

[patmoren]

Interesting day at the O2. Great win for Johnny and Freddie, they ineract very well and extremely fast around the court, especially at the net. Haven't seen them play live before. The presentation to Nole made up for having to sit through Feds demolishment of Tipsy. Kept shouting to encourage him but didn't make much difference. Surrounded by Fed fans with hats and flags and teddy bears, sad really. I kept getting glares everytime I shouted for Tipsy, great fun!! Didn't make any contact with anyone today. Supergran too busy with the Celebs!!

[Alis]

The crowd was so much noisier today. I'm sure it doesn't bother Andy but the level of support for Fed really irks me. Add to that the eulogising from the commies -some of whom are already handing Fed the trophy - and it becomes quite nauseating. We could really do with some of the Stirling University boys there tomorrow.

[RoastLamb]

It must gall Fed not to get the #1 trophy and the AA award as well.

[RoastLamb]

Happy to see Paes/Steppy win in straights. All my dubs boys have won. But now it gets tricky when they start playing against each other.

[rouges]

I know this is the wrong place to post this but is there a livestream for the Ferrer/delPo match

[lynne]

Hope it works.....http://lsh.lshunter.tv/static/popups/119311867311560.html

[WimbledonAce]

Awesome match tonight! High quality.

[cazza99]

oop for Wednesday - http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605

Jonny Marray is on again tomorrow at 6.00 pm. And Andy of course at 1.45 pm.

[hfwardhouse]

Awe :sad: they've got all Group B dubs matches on tomorrow - looks like we won't get to see Jonny and Freddy on Saturday either .... oh well ...

[Sallydaisy]

Well done David Ferrer. I thought Delpo winning the 2nd set might have seen him go on to win the 3rd but even though he must be very tired the Spaniard toughed it out. Great match to watch!!!

Wednesday OOP

Wednesday, November 07, 2012


Centre Court Start 12:00 noon





[4] Robert Lindstedt (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/L335.aspx) (SWE)

Horia Tecau (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/T749.aspx) (ROU)

v



[5] Mahesh Bhupathi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/B471.aspx) (IND)
Rohan Bopanna (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/B757.aspx) (IND)
ATP




Not Before 1:45 PM





[1] Novak Djokovic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/D643.aspx) (SRB)

v



[3] Andy Murray (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/MC10.aspx) (GBR)
H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605#)



Not Before 6:00 PM





[2] Max Mirnyi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/M595.aspx) (BLR)

Daniel Nestor (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/N210.aspx) (CAN)

v



[8] Jonathan Marray (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/M983.aspx) (GBR)
Frederik Nielsen (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/N390.aspx) (DEN)
ATP




Not Before 7:45 PM





[5] Tomas Berdych (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/BA47.aspx) (CZE)

v



[7] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/T786.aspx) (FRA)
H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605#)

[supergran]

Home after a very enjoyable day. Jonny and Freddie were fantastic. Really enjoyed their match. Pat Moran and I plus 2 others loudly supported Janko to no avail. I feel a blog coming on!!

[SamP]

Starting to feel very apathetic about how this tournament is ran now,

i'm going to see JMDP v Tipsy on thursday night. It's sold out. Whats that about?

The BBC have the right to show the best matches in the middle of the day, when everyone is at work? Why on earth did they choose to show the afternoon matches anyway?

Marray plays again today instead of tomorrow also? Whats that about?

This tournament should be about the 20,000 fans that go to watch every match that they love to keep going on about on the tv, so why don't they do the right thing? Or at least mix things up!

[patmoren]

We are not the only ones Sam, Media controls sport all over the world.


Starting to feel very apathetic about how this tournament is ran now,

i'm going to see JMDP v Tipsy on thursday night. It's sold out. Whats that about?

The BBC have the right to show the best matches in the middle of the day, when everyone is at work? Why on earth did they choose to show the afternoon matches anyway?

Marray plays again today instead of tomorrow also? Whats that about?

This tournament should be about the 20,000 fans that go to watch every match that they love to keep going on about on the tv, so why don't they do the right thing? Or at least mix things up!

[Madeline]

What I want to know is, why the hard-up BBC seem to have more clout than Sky? How is Sue Barker bribing the organisers? ;)

[Elenive]

Good luck to the brits today. Andy and Jonny :thumbup:

[jaysee]

Marray plays again today instead of tomorrow also? Whats that about?



Can't blame the organisers for that one - except the ATP schedulers who thought it would be a good idea to have Paris and London back to back!

The two pairs from the Paris doubles final on Sunday were drawn in different groups. To be fair to them, they both had to have Monday off so that they had a day to travel and get used to the courts here, so they ended up splitting the doubles groups across Monday/Tuesday.

However the 2nd RR matches needed the winners in a group to play each other, and the losers to play each other too, so each group had to go back to a single day. The only decision they could make was which two teams had to play two days running, and Marray/Nielsen and Bhu/Bop got the short straw (which is presumably why they played the afternoon match yesterday).

[cazza99]

Piers Newbery ‏@piersnewbery

It's "qualification scenario" time... (part 1) Djokovic into semis with straight-sets win, or if he beats Murray and Tsonga beats Berdych.

Piers Newbery ‏@piersnewbery

Qualification scenario (part 2).... Murray reaches the semis if he beats Djokovic and Berdych beats Tsonga. It really couldn't be simpler.

[RoastLamb]

Watching the dubs match between Team India and Lind./Tecau. Don't like either teams tbh.

[Sallydaisy]

Barclays ATP World Tour Finals definitely in London until 2015.

Alexandra Willis ‏@alex_willis (https://twitter.com/alex_willis) Official confirmation that the Barclays ATP World Tour Finals
will remain at London's O2 until 2015. #finalshowdown (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23finalshowdown&src=hash)


That's another 3 years folks (2 more than originally agreed) which is great news!
:thumbup:

[RoastLamb]

Team India win. Now on to the BIG match of the day. :cheer:

[jaysee]

From the ATP site:

Doubles Group B qualification scenarios after the completion of the 1st round of the event's group stage:
M. MIRNYI / D. NESTOR qualify on Wednesday if:
- M. MIRNYI / D. NESTOR defeat J. MARRAY / F. NIELSEN in 2 sets.
- M. MIRNYI / D. NESTOR defeat J. MARRAY / F. NIELSEN and R. LINDSTEDT / H. TECAU defeat M. BHUPATHI / R. BOPANNA.
J. MARRAY / F. NIELSEN qualify on Wednesday if:
- J. MARRAY / F. NIELSEN defeat M. MIRNYI / D. NESTOR in 2 sets.
- J. MARRAY / F. NIELSEN defeat M. MIRNYI / D. NESTOR and M. BHUPATHI / R. BOPANNA defeat R. LINDSTEDT / H. TECAU.




So Marray and Neilsen just (!!) have to win tonight to qualify for the semis! Go, Johnny!

[cazza99]

British Tennis ‏@BritishTennis

Apparently in Denmark Jonny & Freddie are known as 'The Royal Doubles Team'

Jonny and Freddie are a break up in the 1st set :)

[jaysee]

Sorry RL - I supported Danny on Monday, but there's no contest tonight! ;)

[RoastLamb]

Sorry RL - I supported Danny on Monday, but there's no contest tonight! ;)

No worries. I'm neutral on this one.

[Elenive]

Marray and Nielsen have just won another one!!! 7-6(3), 4-6, 12-10

[RoastLamb]

Good win for Johnny and Freddie!!! Hope they go all the way.

[jaysee]

Woo hoo!!! Well done Marray & Nielsen!!!:dance::dance::dance:

[Sallydaisy]

OMG!!!
Jonny Marray and Freddie Nielsen have taken out the defending champions Mirnyi/Nestor! They've now won 2 RR's and are through to the Semi's irrespective of what happens to the other teams.

:clap::clap::clap:

[cazza99]

Wow. :clap: :clap: It shows that their Wimbledon win was not a lucky fluke. Its a shame that they are not going to continue as doubles partners.

[ljs]

wow , good for them :clap:

[Sallydaisy]

Wow. :clap: :clap: It shows that their Wimbledon win was not a lucky fluke. Its a shame that they are not going to continue as doubles partners.
Freddie Nielsen needs to be nailed to a changing room mat until he agrees to continue as Jonny's partner.

At age 29 and a singles rank of 362 he's just never going to make it up the rankings now.
What 'singles career' does he realistically think he's got to think about?
:confused:

Whereas he's got a doubles ranking of #23 meaning he and Jonny could get straight into all the Masters/500 events they want until Wimbledon and at that level keep posting ranking points and earning decent money.

[Mandiemoo]

It seems like a no brainer to us but obviously he just doesnt want to 'let go' of the dream.

maybe success here will convince him its not a fluke!

[JAMES4578]

Another fabulous win and into the semis,awesome! Certainly disappointing they won't be a regular partnership.

[jaysee]

They should be picking up quite a few points here too, which will last even after Wimbledon.

[Madeline]

Anybody know why Berdy v Tsonga hasn't started yet? It was scheduled at 7.45. I know the doubles over-ran that time, but not by all that much.

[jaysee]

Anybody know why Berdy v Tsonga hasn't started yet? It was scheduled at 7.45. I know the doubles over-ran that time, but not by all that much.

It's 5-5!! If you're on tennistv, you have to go to a new stream for the singles...

[AllyB]

its 5-5 in the first set

[Madeline]

It's not on the ATP livescores yet! I tried reloading that.

Edit - thanks, I got it on tennistv now - and also on the scoreboard. Not sure what went wrong there.

[jaysee]

Allez Tsonga!! We need you to win at least a set, and preferably the match! :sofa:

[ljs]

blah , Tsonga looks horrible so far

[Mandiemoo]

So we want tsonga to win for Andy's benefit then?

[jaysee]

Berdych wins the first set, which takes us closer to the possible nightmare scenario:nailbiter:

If Berdy wins in straight sets, we'll have:

Nole 2 wins sets: 4-1
Berd 1 win sets: 3-2
Andy 1 win sets: 3-3
Tsonga 0 wins - out

Then if Berd beats Nole 2-1 and Andy beats Tsonga 2-0, we'll have 3 players on 5-3 and it's all down to games, as in 2009. :sofa:

[ljs]

well in that scenario CMON TSONGA !!

[Mandiemoo]

Allez Tsonga, Viva La France (waves a 'drapeau tricolore')

[Linda]

Love Tsonga but not sure if it might be better for Andy to cheer for Berdy here?

[Linda]

I'm assuming that Nole will beat Berdy . . .

[Mandiemoo]

The ATP World Tour Finals always confuses me, I never understand whats going on lol!

Don't know who i want to win this one now (because its all about the Murray for me!)

[supergran]

Watched Jonny and Freddy...fantastic win. Now cheering for Tsonga who leads in 2nd set 4-1.

[Alis]

Whoever wins it's better for Andy for the match to go to three so 'allez Jo'!

[Mandiemoo]

Allez Tsonga, 3 Sets we need!

[traveller7]

1 set all

[ljs]

yayyy Joe cmon :clap:

[Mandiemoo]

Great! So who to cheer for now?

[Alis]

Go Jo!!

[supergran]

Are we still cheering for Jo?:confused:

[ljs]

:lol: I think so SG , i am anyways

[cazza99]

Who to cheer for all depends on who you think will win the Nole vs Berdy match. Nole has a 10-1 head to head record with Berdy.

[ljs]

not looking too good for Jo :(

[supergran]

You are really confusing me Jaysee.:rolling: I have to keep reading and rereading slowly.:laugh::lol::rolling:

[ljs]

oh can u sit in your seat and have a drink at the 02 ??? Sweet :)

[traveller7]

Tsonga 3-1 down in final set

[supergran]

oh can u sit in your seat and have a drink at the 02 ??? Sweet :)Well we did. Never do if I'm on my own but with Supergramps I did.

[ljs]

so if Berdych wins this , then what does that mean for Andy ??

[traveller7]

4-1 to the berd

[supergran]

so if Berdych wins this , then what does that mean for Andy ??Answers to be explained very slowly and carefully.:lol:

[ljs]

oh Tsonga :(

[Linda]

I think it's better for Andy as he doesn't actually have to beat Tsonga on Friday (although of course he should) but it would then depend on games etc. I think if Tsonga won tonight then Andy would have to beat him on Friday.

[david1610]

Mmm... pity Jo has fallen away so much. Looking like a 6-1. Are you sure it is percentage of winning sets, and they do not go down to games any more? If they do this will really help Birdy....

[cazza99]

Now that Tsonga cannot get through to the finals, will Tsonga really come out and try hard to beat Andy?

[supergran]

I think it's better for Andy as he doesn't actually have to beat Tsonga on Friday (although of course he should) but it would then depend on games etc. I think if Tsonga won tonight then Andy would have to beat him on Friday.So should we have been supporting Birdbrain?

[-J-]

plus it forces nole to play a compedative match, if he was already through why would he waste energy chasing everything down from berdych

[Jan]

Just seen the doubles result (rather behind this evening!)! Brilliant win from Jonny and Freddie!!
:bravo::cheer::cheer:

[ljs]

:shocked: so confusing , I need my dinner

Bye Tsonga :(

[Mandiemoo]

Who's playing first on Friday, do we know?

[Alis]

I hope they put Berdy/Djoko up first on Friday but the BBC will probably want Andy on in the afternoon.

[scrapaddict]

Jonny and Freddie deserve to do well - theypayed such a good match yesterday and, apparently tday.

Think Berdy's win pUts him above Andy in number of games won and lost - HELP!. PLease let Nole beat him easily and Andy beating JO too in straight sets

[Linda]

I fail to understand why they keep putting Andy on in the afternoon, as (a) most people are working then, and (b) there is a better atmosphere at night.

[supergran]

Going to relax now and watch a film. I'll be able to follow that.

[scrapaddict]

Din't agree there is a better atmosphere at night and as TV wants Andy he plays in then afternoon.

Yesterday the Fed fans behaved appallingly. We had 7 young men in bespoke Roger shirts in front of us yesterday ( "we get new ones made every year":grrr:). They kept shouting for Fed and another block of fans opposite were shouting back to them. It was sick making esp as they were wearing YUK Fed face masks. Tried to shout loud for Tipsy but to no avail.

[Sallydaisy]

I imagine someone did the Friday possibilities earlier in this thread, but I can't find them (at least not quickly) and someone seems to think there is no way Tsonga can qualify now (not completely true), so you might find this helpful - it shows who finishes 1st and 2nd in all the possible scenarios:

http://bit.ly/RJlmNk

There's one way Tsonga can go through, one way Andy can finish 1st (and Nole can go out), one way Andy can win and still go out and one way Andy can lose but still go through!
Thanks Steven.

The reason you can't see various hypotheses is 'cos we've started a new thread (http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1531-BARCLAYS-ATP-WORLD-TOUR-FINAL-who-will-reach-the-Semi-s) for this and moved various posts over. Also, copied over some tweets of yours and Stu Fraser's - hope that is alright?

[RoastLamb]

Looking forward to the dubs today. Singles, not so much.

[LC the fan]

Din't agree there is a better atmosphere at night and as TV wants Andy he plays in then afternoon.

Yesterday the Fed fans behaved appallingly. We had 7 young men in bespoke Roger shirts in front of us yesterday ( "we get new ones made every year":grrr:). They kept shouting for Fed and another block of fans opposite were shouting back to them. It was sick making esp as they were wearing YUK Fed face masks. Tried to shout loud for Tipsy but to no avail.

Fully agree with you - there couldn't have been a better atmosphere that yesterday afternoon. The packed stadium was electric.

And as far as the Fed fans were concerned, I truly thought they ought to have been warned to keep it down, or threatened with rejection. They were noisy, intim idating and - frankly - offensive

[traveller7]

So Fed is in charge in this match at the moment

[Alis]

That was a bad mistake by the umpire and seems to have swung a lot of the crowd (the ones who aren't blinded by Fed) in Daveed's favour.

[traveller7]

And the smug is through :/
Petchy "You show ferrer no mercy on court will you show him some appreciation now"
fed: "urmm yeah I can if you like"

Not exact quote but something along those lines

[cazza99]

And Marcus on Sky made a comment that Federer threw something to the audience, but it was to the boxes (i.e. the richer folk).

[rk350]

How can Ferrer have such a bad record against Federer? It's funny that people sometimes describe him as one of the toughest players mentally, when to my mind his poor record against the top four is entirely down to his mentality against them - he doesn't think he is better than them!

It will be interesting to see how Fed does against the top two :p He obviously loves this surface, but I think Andy and Novak have been pulling away from him recently.

[rainy days]

How can Ferrer have such a bad record against Federer? It's funny that people sometimes describe him as one of the toughest players mentally, when to my mind his poor record against the top four is entirely down to his mentality against them - he doesn't think he is better than them!

It will be interesting to see how Fed does against the top two :p He obviously loves this surface, but I think Andy and Novak have been pulling away from him recently.

He only has a bad record against Nadal and Federer. Against Andy and Novak he has 5 wins each. And he has a positive record against the rest of the top 10...

[Elenive]

Poor Ferrer :(

Although I think he'll make the semies afterall, he is likely to beat tipsy

[jaysee]

I've managed to avoid watching the Fed so far this week...

... I decided it was much more important to clear up the leaves on my front path this afternoon, as it's due to rain in the morning and they're much heavier to carry when wet! ;)

[Alis]

I can't believe that Fed said, 'I played a good match'. I thought for him that he played really poorly - Andy, Djoko and Delpo, and even perhaps Berdych, would have made mincemeat of him today.

[patmoren]

Federer was rubbish most of the time and the quietness of the crowd was evidence of that. Ferrer had more winners, higher serve % and very little in points difference, just couldn't persuade Ferrer to win the set, try as I might. I was vamosing, come oning but all to no avail and I was really close to the front.

[Sallydaisy]

Tipsy is not having a good evening. He's serving at *0-4 to Del Potro.

His team all looked pretty glum and I've picked up this tweet ...

Liz Curran ‏@lizcurran (https://twitter.com/lizcurran) I hear from my neighbour at the O2, who is a friend of a close friend of Tipsy's that he's still not feeling great. #vamosDelpo (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23vamosDelpo&src=hash)

[Sallydaisy]

Shock horror!!! Tipsy is on the board!
He finally held his serve to start the 2nd set 1-0.
Del Potro took the first set 6'0.
:p

[patmoren]

Potty through in straight sets 6-0 6-4, disappointing from Tipsy.

[Sallydaisy]

Great evening session tomorrow night with 2 British Grand Slam champions in action at the O2!!!
:dance:

Friday, November 09, 2012


Centre Court Start 12:00 pm





[2] Max Mirnyi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/M595.aspx) (BLR)
Daniel Nestor (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/N210.aspx) (CAN)
v


[5] Mahesh Bhupathi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/B471.aspx) (IND)

Rohan Bopanna (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/B757.aspx) (IND)
ATP




Not Before 1:45 PM




[1] Novak Djokovic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/D643.aspx) (SRB)
v


[5] Tomas Berdych (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/BA47.aspx) (CZE)
H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605#)



Not Before 6:00 PM





[4] Robert Lindstedt (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/L335.aspx) (SWE)
Horia Tecau (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/T749.aspx) (ROU)
v


[8] Jonathan Marray (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/M983.aspx) (GBR)
Frederik Nielsen (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/N390.aspx) (DEN)
ATP




Not Before 7:45 PM





[3] Andy Murray (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/MC10.aspx) (GBR)
v


[7] Jo-Wilfried Tsonga (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/T786.aspx) (FRA)
H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605#)

[xenon21]

Stu Fraser tweeted that Federer vs DelPo is afternoon match on Saturday. Makes me wonder if part of the reason is in case Andy reaches the semis, the Andy vs federer semis could be the afternoon match... Or I think I am reading too much into it ;)

[rainy days]

Stu Fraser tweeted that Federer vs DelPo is afternoon match on Saturday. Makes me wonder if part of the reason is in case Andy reaches the semis, the Andy vs federer semis could be the afternoon match... Or I think I am reading too much into it ;)

I think Andy is playing the evening match because they want to avoid match-fixing. Would be very easy for Djokovic and Berdych to work out a scenario where they both go through if Andy failed to win in straight sets.

[Madeline]

Shades of 2009. . . but not possible this year!

[jaysee]

Stu Fraser tweeted that Federer vs DelPo is afternoon match on Saturday. Makes me wonder if part of the reason is in case Andy reaches the semis, the Andy vs federer semis could be the afternoon match... Or I think I am reading too much into it ;)

I think if Ferrer had played the afternoon match and lost, then the qualifiers would be known (if not the order of 1st & 2nd) before the evening match started. This way round, there will still be uncertaintly for the evening crowd on Saturday, whatever has happened in the afternoon.

Or maybe not - because if Potty wins in the afternoon, the qualifiers will also be known! :doh:

[JAMES4578]

Tipsy didn't show up in that first set which was most disappointing for the crowd,thankfully he did get something going even if he was never likely to turn it around. Obviously still feeling under the weather but wonder if he is wise to continue in the tournament. It was also a bit frustrating Ferrer couldn't capitalise on Fed's woes,particularly in that first set but with the record just didn't seem to have the confidence.

Let's hope Andy does the business today, of course would help if Nole doesn't give Berdych any chance.

[RoastLamb]

Disappointed Danny and Max were beaten by Team India. :crying: It was close but TI defo had the edge and were always in front. Too bad. Interesting that Danny will be partnering with Bhupathi next year. I wonder how that will work out for them. Still, Danny's won the WTF a few times now, with three different partners, so I guess it's time for another team. I do hope Johnny and Freddy win this afternoon as well and go to the top of the group.

[david1610]

Nole now 5-1 up in first set. A few SF options probably about to end.
But if Nole presumably gets the set and has qualified, will be interesting to see if he keeps this up.

[traveller7]

6-2 to Nole and through to the SF

[Bardot]

Bouncy still suggesting that Andy can win the group if Berdych goes onto beat Djokovic. :facepalm: The equally clueless Henman also earlier said that Luke Bambridge's Future's victory at age 17 was something Andy hadn't achieved. Didn't he win one aged 16 and several when he was 17?

[supergran]

Bouncy still suggesting that Andy can win the group if Berdych goes onto beat Djokovic. :facepalm: The equally clueless Henman also earlier said that Luke Bambridge's Future's victory at age 17 was something Andy hadn't achieved. Didn't he win one aged 16 and several when he was 17? Words fail me....and they don't often!!

[LC the fan]

I'm finding this harder to watch than Andy's matches - and that says a lot.

Come on Nole - give your pal a chance and get this over with

[ljs]

:sofa: cmon Djoko

[supergran]

What happens if Nole wins in 3? #confused.com

[david1610]

Nole have to serve at 4-5 Under a bit more pressure now. C'mon Nole! (strange writing that....)

[ljs]

I think if Nole wins in 3 , then Andy HAS to win in 2

[ljs]

dont quote me tho SG , cause I find it confusing too :lol:

[supergran]

Come on Nole....Finish this off, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cazza99]

What happens if Nole wins in 3? #confused.com

Andy has to win a set off Tsonga to get into the semis if Nole wins in 3.

We have a thread discussing what will happen here - http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?1531-BARCLAYS-ATP-WORLD-TOUR-FINAL-who-will-reach-the-Semi-s/page4

[cazza99]

I think if Nole wins in 3 , then Andy HAS to win in 2

That is only the case if Berdych wins in 2, not Nole. If Nole wins in 3 Andy has to win a set off Tsonga.

[supergran]

I'm getting a bit suspicious........

[supergran]

That is only the case if Berdych wins in 3, not Nole. If Nole wins in 3 Andy has to win a set off Tsonga.OK I will calm down then and think good thoughts.

[LC the fan]

Surely if Nole wins, and then Andy subsequently beats Tsonga they both go through.
Nole win have won 3, Andy 2, Berdie just one ?????? I think ????

[jaysee]

Surely if Nole wins, and then Andy subsequently beats Tsonga they both go through.
Nole win have won 3, Andy 2, Berdie just one ?????? I think ????

Yes - But if Nole wins, Andy doesn't need to beat Tsonga, a single set will do!

[supergran]

Yes - But if Nole wins, Andy doesn't need to beat Tsonga, a single set will do!You are so clever:worship: and I am a :dunce:

[LC the fan]

Keep me posted folks - I cant bear to watch

[ljs]

shows you what I know

[jaysee]

The easiest thing to keep an eye on is this table that Sally found:


This table (from http://letsecondserve.blogspot.co.il/2012/11/world-tour-finals-group-qualification.html) might be useful ...
It works out who goes through based on the results of Friday's matches and seems to correspond with the scenarios given by Jaysee, Steven and Stu Fraser (on twitter) and even the ATP who have worked it out correctly but in a less easy to read format.






Djokovic in 2

Djokovic in 3

Berdych in 2

Berdych in 3



Murray in 2

1. Djokovic
2. Murray

1. Djokovic
2. Murray

1. Murray
2. Berdych

1. Djokovic
2. Murray



Murray in 3

1. Djokovic
2. Murray

1. Djokovic
2. Murray

1. Berdych
2. Djokovic

1. Djokovic
2. Murray



Tsonga in 2

1. Djokovic
2. Tsonga

1. Djokovic
2. Berdych

1. Berdych
2. Djokovic

1. Berdych
2. Djokovic



Tsonga in 3

1. Djokovic
2. Murray

1. Djokovic
2. Murray

1. Berdych
2. Djokovic

1. Berdych
2. Djokovic

[cazza99]

I hae a horrible feeling that if Nole loes this tiebreaker he will take his foot off the pedal for the last set. But I reckon Nole will still try hard to win the tiebreaker.

[LC the fan]

Hopefully he wont want 3 sets

[cazza99]

:sofa:

[cazza99]

:phew:

[Golden Lady]

Nole you beauty!!!:thumbup:

[ljs]

Thank you nole

[jaysee]

Well done, Nole!! Just one set needed against Tsonga! :sofa:

[Bardot]

Good that Djokovic won but it would've been better in 3 sets as now Tsonga is still in the competition if he beats Andy in 2 sets.

[ljs]

so now Andys fate is in his own hands

[Elenive]

Good job Noley, that makes Andy's job easier, just need to take one set of Tsonga and you're through :)

[Bardot]

Petchey behaves like a giggly fanboy in these post match interviews. It's a bit cringy.

[LC the fan]

Good that Djokovic won but it would've been better in 3 sets as now Tsonga is still in the competition if he beats Andy in 2 sets.

Surely, surely that wont happen ! Well, its in Andy's hands to ensure that it doesn't.
I'm out tonight and cannot watch, but I will be in to watch the great Murray/Federer rivalry continue. Harder indoors I know but take him apart like you did in the Olympics Andy :cheer:

[patmoren]

Enjoyed watching Nole today, dropped his level once or twice and Berdy came back strong in the second set but Nole stayed focused and won in straights.

[hfwardhouse]

Happy with the oop for tomorrow afternoon! Well so long as potty plays well!

[Sallydaisy]

Happy with the oop for tomorrow afternoon! Well so long as potty plays well!

Speaking of which - here it is. Note the earlier possible start time for the last singles match.
:shades:



Centre Court Start 12:00 pm





[1] Bob Bryan (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/B588.aspx) (USA)
Mike Bryan (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/B589.aspx) (USA)
v


[3] Leander Paes (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/P269.aspx) (IND)
Radek Stepanek (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/S694.aspx) (CZE)
ATP




Not Before 1:45 PM





[2] Roger Federer (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/F324.aspx) (SUI)
v


[6] Juan Martin Del Potro (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/D683.aspx) (ARG)
H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605#)



Not Before 5:45 PM





[6] Marcel Granollers (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/G710.aspx) (ESP)
Marc Lopez (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/L480.aspx) (ESP)
v


[7] Aisam-Ul-Haq Qureshi (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/Q019.aspx) (PAK)
Jean-Julien Rojer (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/R513.aspx) (NED)
ATP





Not Before 7:15 PM





[4] David Ferrer (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/F401.aspx) (ESP)
v


[8] Janko Tipsarevic (http://www.atpworldtour.com/tennis/players/T742.aspx) (SRB)
H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=605#)

[RoastLamb]

Again, I'm far more interested in the doubles matches. Sigh. Sad that Freddie and Johnny lost in straights today.

[patmoren]

I get to se the Bryans today but the downside is another Fedmania, hate it. Off shortly to the O2 and will hopefully meet up with Jane, Stephen and Esther.

[HoopGirl]

Well enjoy it all at the O2 - I too have seen Federer when I wanted to see andy but when Federer has retired you will
be able to say you did see the Goat play - a piece of history, and you supported the best British player - another piece
of history!!

[wriggles]

Petchey behaves like a giggly fanboy in these post match interviews. It's a bit cringy.

Thats really mean, i think hes a lovely interviewer!

[cazza99]

Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC7zuKh_C8s&feature=relmfu)- Petchey Previews Federer vs Del Potro At Final Showdown

[RoastLamb]

Great win for Leander Paes and Steppy in the dubs over Team USA. 3-0 wins in their group. Stellar. :clap: :clap: :clap:

[Elenive]

Wow, depending on the last doubles match, the Bryans might not reach the semies :shocked: !!

[RoastLamb]

I'm really hoping Team Spain win this afternoon. Love them.

[xenon21]

Federer isn't playing well. I wonder if he is trying to avoid Andy

If Federer loses, what would have to take place for Andy notto play him? Tipsy to win? Yeah right!

[Elenive]

Yeah I was thinking that, though would Fed really prefer to play Nole in the semies instead of Andy?? Surely both are equally dangerous, the difference for andy is that Fed won't be happy with the amount of support Andy will get.

[RoastLamb]

Potty wins first set. :yahoo:

[RoastLamb]

If Fed wins he'll have to play three hopefully long sets and be a tad tired for oor Andy tomorrow. Here's hoping.

[-J-]

many UE's did the goatship hit in that TB

[Manaus]

Federer isn't playing well. I wonder if he is trying to avoid Andy

If Federer loses, what would have to take place for Andy notto play him? Tipsy to win? Yeah right!

Fed would have to lose in straight sets or lose in 3 and have Tipsy win.

Wow, Del P gets the 1st set, great effort. :thumbup:

[cazza99]

Come on Del Potty.