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Stell
28-07-2016, 10:34
The Genting Arena in Birmingham has been chosen to host it on 18th December. Who, apart from Andy Murray and Mo Farah, will be on the shortlist of nominations and who do you think will win it?

-J-
28-07-2016, 10:50
Danny willet for winning masters , froome for TDF exploits Lewis Hamilton if he wins f1 championship again , whoever catches the nation's attention during Olympics, and some broads obvious to meet quotas ;)

Teresa
30-07-2016, 07:18
I would like Mr M to be the first one to get it 3 times, but I think on balance it's time for someone else to have a turn.

themass15
30-07-2016, 07:26
Too early to pick a winner. Lots of contenders as has been put on above. It would be great for Andy to get it but I think he would need to win either US Open or another Olympic Gold Medal to guarantee getting it. Chris Froome, although worthy, doesn't seem overly popular in the UK when you consider Bradley Wiggins got it after 1 Tour de France win.

Alis
30-07-2016, 11:00
Too early to pick a winner. Lots of contenders as has been put on above. It would be great for Andy to get it but I think he would need to win either US Open or another Olympic Gold Medal to guarantee getting it. Chris Froome, although worthy, doesn't seem overly popular in the UK when you consider Bradley Wiggins got it after 1 Tour de France win.

I agree but Wiggins had also won Olympic gold and, for some reason that I don't quite understand, is hugely popular. I can't see Andy winning it two years in a row quite honestly, however well deserved, especially when there are bound to be outstanding Olympic performances to consider.

Rosalind
30-07-2016, 11:10
I think that Mo deserves a look in. He has never done very well despite his great wins. However, I think a lot will depend on the Olympics... perhaps Andy will get three golds (and Mo only 2 !) :olympics:

Chris Froome is pretty outstanding imo (and he's conveniently losing his Kenyan accent so more in with a chance probably.)

cazza99
30-07-2016, 11:21
I think it is usually someone who performs well in the Olympics who wins SPOTY in Olympic years.

Bardot
30-07-2016, 11:55
Imagine if SPOTY was restricted only to athletes resident in the UK. That would mean no Hamilton, no Farah, no Bale and no Froome. ;)

Master Yorkie
30-07-2016, 12:32
Imagine if SPOTY was restricted only to athletes resident in the UK. That would mean no Hamilton, no Farah, no Bale and no Froome. ;)

I know it's not at all the same thing, but wasn't Andy in Miami in 2013 when the competition was on?

Master Yorkie
30-07-2016, 12:34
Too early to pick a winner. Lots of contenders as has been put on above. It would be great for Andy to get it but I think he would need to win either US Open or another Olympic Gold Medal to guarantee getting it. Chris Froome, although worthy, doesn't seem overly popular in the UK when you consider Bradley Wiggins got it after 1 Tour de France win.

In my opinion Froome deserves it as things stand, he has one 3 Tour de France's and he was instrumental in Wiggins victory.
It will all depend on the Olympics though.

anor
30-07-2016, 12:38
Andy was doing a training block in Miami, a bit different from being a tax exile! Apologies to Bale if that doesn't apply to him either.;)

Bardot
30-07-2016, 14:54
Andy has been shortlisted for SPOTY an unrivalled 9 times in 11 years and 2015 was the first time he's attended since 2006. Andy has his priorities just right. :thumbup:

xenon21
30-07-2016, 18:55
Tbh if Andy also wins olympics I think he definitely deserves to win. But if he will I don't know. Partly because he has already won those titles before. But he would definitely deserve to win SPOTY. 2 years in a row in a Olympics year would be hard

Rosalind
30-07-2016, 22:21
I think it's one thing to live abroad as the training facilities are more suitable for your sport and another thing to go due to tax. not naming any names ... just saying.

JAMES4578
30-07-2016, 23:59
Tbh if Andy also wins olympics I think he definitely deserves to win. But if he will I don't know. Partly because he has already won those titles before. But he would definitely deserve to win SPOTY. 2 years in a row in a Olympics year would be hard

Certainly challenging to win Sports Personality consecutively and particularly in Olympic year ,however Andy would definitely deserve it if he won another major title-if he was to lose out to someone worthy suppose would soften the blow and not really my biggest priority for him.


I think it's one thing to live abroad as the training facilities are more suitable for your sport and another thing to go due to tax. not naming any names ... just saying.


Certainly agree-can be valid reason for living abroad and wouldn't slate everyone! Think most can work it out!

suttontennis
31-07-2016, 10:09
Andrew Johnston - puts the P into SPOTY. Not sure if his physique qualifies him as a sportsman tho...

suttontennis
31-07-2016, 10:23
Andy was doing a training block in Miami, a bit different from being a tax exile! Apologies to Bale if that doesn't apply to him either.;)

Gareth Bale actually works in Spain so it would be unfair to class him as living overseas by choice. It's a pretty long commute !

-J-
31-07-2016, 11:44
Wonder just how many weeks andy spends in the UK pretty much most of his JOB is overseas.

Bardot
31-07-2016, 12:50
I didn't realise Gareth Bale had been kidnapped by Real Madrid, at least he can afford the ransom. ;)

Teresa
31-07-2016, 14:24
Wonder just how many weeks andy spends in the UK pretty much most of his JOB is overseas.

True, but his home is here, and his main residence. He also pays his tax here.

Stell
31-07-2016, 14:53
No doubt, they'll include Carl Frampton.

JerryD
07-08-2016, 15:03
I wonder if given his performance in doubles and representing GB there will ever be an award for Jamie Murray?

themass15
07-08-2016, 17:54
Andy has to be one of the contenders this year again.

Alis
15-08-2016, 19:51
There are loads of contenders this year - Andy, of course, but also Mo, Jess, Max Whitlock, Jason Kenny, Laura Trott, Charlotte Dujardine, Justin Rose, Adam Peaty and there must be others.

KnightOwl
15-08-2016, 21:48
I have to say, despite Andy being in the running, my vote would probably have to go to Max Whitlock - absolutely historic achievement!

-J-
15-08-2016, 22:22
I have to say, despite Andy being in the running, my vote would probably have to go to Max Whitlock - absolutely historic achievement!
Andy's achievements this year are hardly every day achievements :p

Helen40
15-08-2016, 22:35
Andy's achievements this year are hardly every day achievements :p
I agree, we're just spoilt now. It was so exiting the first time he won Wimby and the Olympics. Now he's done both in the same year (and hopefully the USO). It's like he's raised the expectations, but what he is achieving is still stella.

WimbledonWestie
15-08-2016, 22:44
And the year not over yet ......

themass15
16-08-2016, 05:54
It is always hard to pick the SPOTY winner in an Olympics year. This year will be no exception.

Rosalind
16-08-2016, 07:34
well I would say that Mo, Chris, Max would be the highest contenders as things stand as well as Andy. If you think that Andy has won before, then it seems to lessen the likelihood but it shouldn't. If it was a stand alone year, then he would probably again be a favourite. This will obviously go up if he wins the US Open and/or gets to number 1.

Teresa
16-08-2016, 08:13
I think all those will be on the list, but Mo and Chris never seem to do that well - I don't think either of them actually live in the U.K. at the moment. I think Laura Trott will be in with a shout, as well as Charlotte Dujardin, and that's before the Paralympians do their stuff. It will be a full list this year. I imagine it will have to be an extended list. I would say Max Whitlock is current favourite. It's a great reflection on the state of British Sport when you really need to have knocked off at least a Gold Medal to be in with a chance at SPOTY, and even that might not be enough.

Alis
16-08-2016, 08:25
If Laura Trott wins gold again today, she will be the first British woman to have won four Olympic golds, that surely must put her amongst the main contenders. Then there's her fiance, Jason Kenny, who could equal Bradley Wiggin's total today. I wouldn't like to say which way it will go.

-J-
16-08-2016, 08:38
If Laura Trott wins gold again today, she will be the first British woman to have won four Olympic golds, that surely must put her amongst the main contenders. Then there's her fiance, Jason Kenny, who could equal Bradley Wiggin's total today. I wouldn't like to say which way it will go.
Laura only ever competes against women so no big deal winning four gold :p and some of Jason's medals are part of a team so he's a no go :pirate:

Josephine
16-08-2016, 09:05
Well Andy won SPOTY as part of a winning team last year! Chris Hoy won some of his medals as part of a team but was SPOTY in 2012 and got special award.

I won't dignify the other comment with an answer ;)

Alis
16-08-2016, 09:07
You're trying too hard now, J!!:big grin:

cazza99
16-08-2016, 09:44
If Mo gets the 5000 then the 2 double doubles ought to top the rest.

Bardot
16-08-2016, 10:04
The winner of SPOTY reflects the popularity of the sport. Difficult I know but imagine if England had won the Euro Championships (I said it was difficult :p) and Wayne Rooney scored the winner in the final :rofl: then no matter the achievement of others he would win by a landslide. It's the Ryan Giggs effect.

Wimbledon is a huge ratings winner for the BBC so Andy already has a head start over other nominees (unless there's a footballer) and if he'd won Wimbledon in 2012 instead of the US Open, he would have beaten Bradley Wiggins to SPOTY that year.

RosieBear
16-08-2016, 11:10
I really enjoy SPOTY. It's a great opportunity for people, such as myself, who wouldn't touch social media with a bargepole to express their respect and affection for Andy. Once voting opens I keep hitting redial and I cram in about 85 votes for him. There is serious competition this year - I really hope Andy wins again, but I just like him seeing the huge amount of votes that come in for him - in other words, the huge love and respect that people have for him in normal society, away from the snakepits that are FB, twitter, newspaper comments sections etc.

Rosalind
16-08-2016, 11:41
the tennis fans are a loyal bunch - many of us hit the redial and also tweeted like mad all and sundry to try and bring in extra votes (at least I did this!). Likewise I would say cycling have a good fan base. Whilst other might be popular eg Max or Mo, I'm not sure of the mad following who will vote as much as their bank account allows! We should really just be allowed one vote each (don't give them that idea though!) ;)

cazza99
16-08-2016, 11:43
The cycling lot also do a lot of campaigning to get people to vote for their cyclists.

themass15
16-08-2016, 13:38
So many people to choose from and so hard to make a choice. There are lots of worthy winners. Andy would be my favourite as always but there are lots of others who deserve it too.

hfwardhouse
17-08-2016, 06:45
After last night Jason Kenny should be the winner....

Yellowlivi
22-08-2016, 17:42
Mo Farah announcing his retirement may give him the edge, though of course Kenny and Trott's medal tally put them up there too. There have been so many great Olympians this year we really are spoiled!

cazza99
23-08-2016, 19:23
Current bookies odds - https://www.skybet.com/tv-and-film-specials/bbc-sports-personality/event/18704515

Andy in the lead followed closely by Mo Farah, then Laura Trott and Jason Kenny.

angiebabez
23-08-2016, 19:39
Has Mo Farah ever won it? If not & if he is retiring then i think he should really get it jason & laura will have other chances.

cazza99
23-08-2016, 20:27
Mo has never even been in the top 3.

Teresa
23-08-2016, 20:54
Let's not forget for Mr M it's not just The Olympics, but Queen's and Wimbledon as well. Mo Farah loses out I think because he no longer lives in this country.

-J-
23-08-2016, 20:58
Let's not forget for Mr M it's not just The Olympics, but Queen's and Wimbledon as well. Mo Farah loses out I think because he no longer lives in this country.
Personally I think Mo's lack of popularity is sadly far more sinister

cazza99
23-08-2016, 21:03
Let's not forget for Mr M it's not just The Olympics, but Queen's and Wimbledon as well. Mo Farah loses out I think because he no longer lives in this country.

I thought he still lives in the UK. It is where his wife and kid are isn't it. But he trains away a lot abroad.

-J-
23-08-2016, 21:09
I thought he still lives in the UK. It is where his wife and kid are isn't it. But he trains away a lot abroad.I thought the whole family was oot in Eugene

patlowe
23-08-2016, 21:23
If Andy were to win USO and helped to retain the DC, then surely it's (to use that awful phrase) a no brainer!

Alis
23-08-2016, 21:26
Has anyone ever won it three times?

Rosalind
23-08-2016, 21:27
Yes, the whole family are in USA with him training elsewhere as necessary eg East Africa. Poor show by the public that they have never put him in the top 3. As the year progresses my choices change slightly.... Mo, Jason, Laura, Andy - not in any particular order.

-J-
23-08-2016, 21:44
Has anyone ever won it three times?nope Andy Henry cooler, Nigel mansel damen hill only two times winners

themass15
24-08-2016, 07:39
Andy comes out in the lead on Oddschecker with Mo Farah 2nd. I would say the 5 contenders are Andy, Laura, Jason, Mo and Max Whitlock.

themass15
24-08-2016, 07:40
Just thought Gareth Bale may also be a strong contender.

suttontennis
24-08-2016, 13:15
Just thought Gareth Bale may also be a strong contender.

if only it was scored on 'personality' not 'sports'. To be fair, Bale's achievements in holding down a place in Spain, as well as being the driving force behind his nation's improvement, is well worthy of recognition. But any-one sportsman with such silly hair doesn't deserve to win SPOTY.

suttontennis
24-08-2016, 13:22
nope Andy Henry cooler, Nigel mansel damen hill only two times winners

Steve Davis was in top 3 five times, not bad for some-one with 'no personality'. Higgins, just the once. (Hendry once as well).

Alis
24-08-2016, 16:18
Andy comes out in the lead on Oddschecker with Mo Farah 2nd. I would say the 5 contenders are Andy, Laura, Jason, Mo and Max Whitlock.

I would agree with that. If Andy hadn't won it last year, I think he would be the favourite but I honestly can't see him getting it two years in succession, even if he wins the USOpen and WTF and ends the year as number 1.

emjay1970
24-08-2016, 16:42
Always tricky in an Olympic year. I think he'll have to win USO and possibly help keep DC too. Mo's double double and the golden couple might make it tough...

Teresa
24-08-2016, 17:30
I think Nicola Adams will be in with a shout. He has got it twice, been flag bearer and done amazing things this year. I will be voting for him, but I am quite happy for someone else to have a turn.

Linda
24-08-2016, 19:39
Apparently the horseriding guy has a lot of support. As I say every year, the Brits are great at sports that are done sitting down (sailing, canoeing, cycling, horseriding), but Andy has shown that we can win standing up! So Vamos Andy!

Teresa
24-08-2016, 19:48
Didn't Team GB win medals across a wider range of sports than any other country? We did standing up, sitting down, and upside down...........

-J-
24-08-2016, 19:54
Didn't Team GB win medals across a wider range of sports than any other country? We did standing up, sitting down, and upside down...........
Think I seen it was 17 different sports,

Bardot
24-08-2016, 20:15
Other than Hockey and Rugby 7s which was added in Rio, GB are still poor (to say the least) at the team sports ie. volleyball, handball, basketball & water polo and in Tokyo there will be baseball and softball from which we'll also be absent. Clearly skill sports are not "soft options" in which huge amounts of money can be invested to produce results. :p ;)

piscesperson
25-08-2016, 10:44
BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2016: who is favourite for the award?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2016/08/25/bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year-2016-who-is-favourite-for-the/

pabbers
25-08-2016, 12:06
I really don't mind and am happy to see someone else have a turn - Jason, Laura or Mo would be nice.

cazza99
25-08-2016, 12:10
I've moved this thread to Andy's section from the Sports Hall now Andy is favourite - hope I don't jinx it.

I do think Mo is very deserving - he doesn't just hold the double for the last 2 Olympics he has won double gold in the World Championships several times.

jaysee
25-08-2016, 12:41
Apparently the horseriding guy has a lot of support. As I say every year, the Brits are great at sports that are done sitting down (sailing, canoeing, cycling, horseriding), but Andy has shown that we can win standing up! So Vamos Andy!


BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2016: who is favourite for the award?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/2016/08/25/bbc-sports-personality-of-the-year-2016-who-is-favourite-for-the/

I'm surprised Nick Skelton is only quoted at 50-1 - I would have guessed that it's between Andy, Mo and Nick

Caro
25-08-2016, 14:04
It's all very subjective isn't it? If Andy is a contender I will hands down vote for him always and forever .... but this year there are sooo many contenders that it could go to any of the Olympic stars tbh ... I'll still be voting for Andy though.

And it's in Birmingham! I hadn't even realised! Might look and see if there are any tickets left ...

traveller7
25-08-2016, 14:47
Id prefer Andy to win the US open than this again hands down.
Its personality anyway rather than achievement when it comes down to it, Mo wont win jt for whatever reason so it will be another olympian possibly Kenny or Trott

Bardot
26-08-2016, 14:47
If twitter decided the winner of SPOTY.....that may be considered a landslide. ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqsiJazWEAAZk4Y.jpg

pabbers
26-08-2016, 17:00
Awwwww bless.

Hawkeye
26-08-2016, 17:40
Why is Andy being chased by a bee whilst holding a balloon?

angiebabez
27-08-2016, 06:41
90% of those tweets were mine ;)

Rosalind
27-08-2016, 09:08
I would prefer Andy to win US rather than SPOTY too but if he wins US, he has a greater chance of winning SPOTY too of course! Whilst everyone else (I think) is chllaxing back from Rio doing a bit of breakfast TV and showing off their medals (and I'm not knocking anyone), Andy has already been at the final of another tournament and gearing up for another biggie! It's toughest being a tennis player.

Stell
28-08-2016, 07:38
I thought Leicester City FC would win the team of the year. But, I think it'll now be between them and the women's hockey team. I think Usain Bolt might win the overseas award.

On the shortlist, for Sports Personality, I think it might be Andy Murray, Mo Farah, Max Whitlock, one or two from the women's hockey team, Alistair Brownlee, Nick Skelton, Jade Jones, one or two people from sailing, Adam Pety and one or two people from cycling. I would like to see Jo Konta on it.

glenys
28-08-2016, 08:02
It's going to be a "tricky" one again this year

Individuals, likely nominations
Andy
Mo Farah (again - he's been nominated a few times already, never won it - he's done the double double in the distance running at the Olympics so earned his place again on the list)
Max Whitlock - definatley on the list again
Ali Brownlee yes again did what Andy did, retained the Gold, first Triathlete EVER to do so
Nick Skelton possibly on the list purely for keeping going and after 7 Olympics earning that Gold medal (I cried!)
The rest is hard to call, so many great performances at the Olympics. I do NOT envy the people having to make up the shortlist! (and we still have the Paralympics to come!)

Team of the year - I think so far there are 3 on the list
Leicester City
Ladies Hockey Team
Team GB (as a whole - remember 2012 when Team GB as both Olympics and Paralympics won Team of the year)

Helen40
28-08-2016, 10:12
I'd love Team GB to win it. I would question if the hockey team would have won if the rest of the team wasn't in place.

supergran
28-08-2016, 11:03
90% of those tweets were mine ;)

Couldn't have been as 95% were from me.:lol:

Stell
28-08-2016, 13:22
I remember Mo Farah coming third, one year, but I can't remember when.

jaysee
29-08-2016, 10:28
There's a "Nick Skelton for SPOTY" facebook page with over 15,000 likes! https://www.facebook.com/NickSkeltonSP16/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED&fref=nf

david1610
29-08-2016, 11:33
Just for once I would prefer somebody else to Andy, in this case Mo Farah. The referendum in the UK this year seems to have unleashed a lot of covert racism and it would be a nice counter to that, and I also feel the double double is one of those events that marks sporting history. Otherwise Nick Skelton is the "never give up" choice.
PS And the Brownlies went to my school so trying not to be parochial!

themass15
29-08-2016, 12:12
It really probably is one of the hardest years to decide who should be the winner.

Alis
15-09-2016, 11:45
Sarah Storey must surely be in the running.

sir coolerking
15-09-2016, 12:00
It's going to be a "tricky" one again this year

Team of the year - I think so far there are 3 on the list
Leicester City
Ladies Hockey Team
Team GB (as a whole - remember 2012 when Team GB as both Olympics and Paralympics won Team of the year)

I don't think the Team is that straightforward at all. The Welsh football team is up there along with the English rugby team (Grand slam and 3-0 win in Oz). And that's before we even have the Ryder Cup which has produced a number of winners over the years. Personally, I'd go with the Ladies Hockey Team.

As for the individuals, Farah's reputation was damaged by the drugs in athletics issues and the fact his coach has been dragged into it. The British Public view athletics with a lot of suspicion, much like Road Cycling. Poor old Chris Froome wins his 3rd Tour de France and he's barely on any shortlist. Skelton is a strong contender because the Equestrian community is passionate and loyal, whether there's enough of them remains to be seen. But the public know Andy Murray, they now understand him better, gone are the pathetic japes about disliking England. They are starting to recognise the legacy he is creating and realising the hard work he has put in to achieve his success. The knock on effect is there for all to see. He's a worthy favourite and may just win it again, especially if he takes the Davis Cup again too.

Teresa
15-09-2016, 12:12
The trouble with the Paralympians in Sports Personality is they are generally less well known than the Olympians. Their achievements rightly or wrongly are seen as having less value. Perhaps it's time to have an additional category - Para Sports Personality of the Year? We do not expect my fellow disabled people to complete in able bodied sports, so it seems they are on a hiding to nothing in SPOTY.

JAMES4578
15-09-2016, 12:47
Sarah Storey must surely be in the running.


The trouble with the Paralympians in Sports Personality is they are generally less well known than the Olympians. Their achievements rightly or wrongly are seen as having less value. Perhaps it's time to have an additional category - Para Sports Personality of the Year? We do not expect my fellow disabled people to complete in able bodied sports, so it seems they are on a hiding to nothing in SPOTY.

Sarah Storey has certainly been doing very well and she should be nominated,however think it would be difficult for a Paralympian to ever win Sports Personality. However both David Weir and Ellie Simmons got more votes than Chris Hoy in 2012 (though obviously Chris had won in 2008 and the cycling vote went overwhelmingly to Bradley Wiggins) Think pros and cons in having seperate award -coming in top 5 with all athletes might feel better to some than winning in a purely Paralympian field. Whilst I feel more excitement about the Olympics enjoy the Paralympics too and certainly some amazing achievements.

Teresa
15-09-2016, 13:15
I have watched and enjoyed the Paralympics this year, but can't think of anyone who I would vote ahead of Olympians. My top 3 Olympians are Mr M obviously, Nick Skelton (a childhood love of show jumping), and the two lads who got the Badminton Bronze. With The Paralympians it's Will Bailey of Table Tennis Gold, Susie Rogers Gold and bronze for swimming and Dave Henson - running.

LC the fan
20-09-2016, 09:50
Really cannot see Andy winning it again this year. He should, of course, be nominated and I am sure they will feature the Wimbledon title and Olympic Gold; maybe if they had brought back the Davis Cup but even then I doubt it.
I think my vote has to go to Mo Farah who is, undoubtedly, the best distance runner GB has ever had and probably the best ever seen internationally.
I can see and understand the emotions over Nick Skelton but I do believe that Mo's achievements- not only in the Olympics - are in need of recognition that has evaded him at Sports Personality - yes, he did get third place once I think in 2012

JAMES4578
20-09-2016, 10:25
Alistair Brownlie could get a fair view votes after that bit of brotherly love and is of a course a double Olympic champion though Triathlon not usually high profile. The latest odds still put Andy as favourite followed by Mo and Brownlie ,Laura Trott in 4th place and Nick Skelton 5th. Perhaps not totally surprising but Jamie Murray only listed by 2 bookmakers at 250-1, of course he may not be nominated though there may be a few Olympic champions in the same boat I suppose.

Alis
20-09-2016, 14:33
i am surprised that Jason Kenny isn't in the top five but there really are so many to choose from this year.

Rosalind
24-09-2016, 21:04
there are loads to choose from. I think that Alistair is now equal first with Andy at the bookmakers and certainly he was very "sporting". However, whilst I was thinking that it was time for someone else to win, I've been having a re-think. Wimbledon, historic Olympic gold, two further grand slam finals, 5th win at Queens, the charity Hydro event, supporting Davis cup team in Serbia, Have I forgotten anything? I think Andy is still the most worthy. He is going to get my votes again.

cazza99
25-09-2016, 14:41
Alistair now in the lead. Strange that just one bit of brotherly love should push him right up.

https://www.skybet.com/tv-and-film-specials/bbc-sports-personality/event/18704515

Elizabeth
29-09-2016, 09:43
Not sure where to put this or if someone else has posted but I heard on radio this morning that Andy has been voted Scottish Sports Personality of the year and also Cromlix Hotel has been given AA Best Hotel in Scotland award.

JAMES4578
29-09-2016, 21:26
Suppose expected but still great to see Andy with Scottish title, fab Cromlix awarded too.

Stell
30-09-2016, 07:18
I looked on the internet and found Andy had won it and the Scottish Sports Personality was done in Edinburgh.

supergran
30-09-2016, 09:23
Alistair now in the lead. Strange that just one bit of brotherly love should push him right up.

https://www.skybet.com/tv-and-film-specials/bbc-sports-personality/event/18704515

I suppose it shows real sportsmanship and people love an emotional twist. He's not my choice though.:big grin:

sir coolerking
30-09-2016, 09:57
The funny thing is, what has had very little reporting was that in the same race, the Spaniard who was leading the competition had his goggles and hat pulled off during the swim. He looked round and there was Brownlee Snr swimming next to him. Without wishing to put false blame out there, he simply said that Jonny Brownlee is a good guy and a friend, he couldn't say the same for Alistair.

Rosalind
30-09-2016, 12:05
Does anyone think Alistair has a large number of loyal followers willing to push the redial however much their bank balance allows?
I'm not so convinced..... ;)
Now I wonder who might have a band of supporters like that... :superman:

Alis
30-09-2016, 13:46
Does anyone think Alistair has a large number of loyal followers willing to push the redial however much their bank balance allows?
I'm not so convinced..... ;)
Now I wonder who might have a band of supporters like that... :superman:

He could well have the whole of Yorkshire pressing redial though!

RosieBear
30-09-2016, 14:33
I'll be giving Andy my usual approx 85 votes that I squeeze in via redial....but if Ali Brownlee wins then I can live with that (nobody else though). Retaining the gold, just as Andy did in the tennis, made astonishing history, and just feel that Triathlon is much lower profile, less well financially rewarded etc...Ali will have far less big moments in the sun than Andy....

Alis
30-09-2016, 14:40
I've followed the Brownlee brothers since they started, so if Andy doesn't win it I'd be quite happy for it to go to Alistair. Having said that, I feel any winner this year will be a worthy winner ............... except, please don't let it be Bradley Wiggins!

themass15
30-09-2016, 14:41
Think it was his brother helping him over the line in Mexico that has made him favourite. That clip was shown over and over again on Spanish TV whilst I was on holiday last week.

JAMES4578
30-09-2016, 15:20
It's Alistair that's the fav and he helped Jonny over the line (Jonny doesn't appear to be in the running) , though of course Ali is the double Olympic champion. Whilst would love Andy to win again not my biggest priority and am not prepared to spend a lot on voting. If it turns out to be Alistair would be happy enough and think the Brownlee Brothers do deserve more recognition.

Rosalind
30-09-2016, 18:05
I can also live with Alistair and various others. It will almost be a bit embarrassing if it's Andy again.

cazza99
30-09-2016, 18:31
I think Alistair will go down in the betting in a few weeks time when it is not so new.

Teresa
02-10-2016, 07:53
If it's not Mr M, then I would go for Nick Skelton - hangover from my pony mad childhood.

Bardot
02-10-2016, 13:52
I wonder if the 2012 SPOTY award could be rescinded. ;) If we knew then what we know now (even though it was within the rules :rolleyes:) Jess Ennis would have been the winner.

roytennisfan
05-10-2016, 11:07
Anyone fancy going? I do
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cazza99
05-10-2016, 12:19
Andy now in the lead in the betting again, with Aistair 2nd ad Mo third.

https://www.skybet.com/tv-and-film-specials/bbc-sports-personality/event/18704515

Stell
05-10-2016, 13:16
Tickets go on sale on Friday at £45 each and they're allowing up to six tickets per person.

Teresa
05-10-2016, 15:11
How casual we are about it now. In 2013 once that final Djokovic ball hit the net, there was never any doubt that Andy Murray would get SPOTY. 3 years later, it's almost a case of, well it's only been 3 years since a Brit won Wimbledon. The fact it's the same guy is almost irrelevant to a lot of people.

Alis
05-10-2016, 15:31
I agree, Teresa. It's the same with the Olympic Gold - it's almost as though we expect him to do it. We really do have to appreciate him while we have him and Jamie too - I don't think I'll see another British Wimbledon champion in my lifetime and that's no disrespect to Kyle. Of course, I'd love to be proved wrong!

themass15
05-10-2016, 15:48
I think virtually everyone on here does realise how lucky we are to have Andy. We must cherish him while he is still around. As far as SPOTY is concerned, looks as though he is neck and neck with Alistair Brownlee at present. Of course that could change, particularly if he does well at WTF.

-J-
05-10-2016, 17:27
when willet won the masters I thought he was a shoe in but lack of form since and a poor showing in the Ryder cup have scuppered him and his loud mouthed brother hasn't done him any favours
brownlie bros seem like nice guys but triathlon isn't a marque sport so cant really see him ridding the current wave of publicity all the way to December

Bardot
05-10-2016, 18:14
Alistair Brownlee received a huge boost today featuring prominently in Theresa May's Conservative Party Conference speech. Just like the Tories he put self interest aside and reached out to help others at his own expense. Bring a tear to a glass eye.

-J-
05-10-2016, 18:20
Alistair Brownlee received a huge boost today featuring prominently in Theresa May's Conservative Party Conference speech. Just like the Tories he put self interest aside and reached out to help others at his own expense. Bring a tear to a glass eye.
inspirational

roytennisfan
06-10-2016, 17:28
Anybody else planning to go? Reminder tickets on sale 9am tomorrow.

Stell
11-10-2016, 10:34
Tickets are still available on the ticket factory website.

Caro
18-10-2016, 12:41
Anybody else planning to go? Reminder tickets on sale 9am tomorrow. Wish I had realised! Shame to miss it seeing as it's on my doorstep .... but only tickets now are right at the back which I don't want :facepalm:

patlowe
18-10-2016, 13:09
Wish I had realised! Shame to miss it seeing as it's on my doorstep .... but only tickets now are right at the back which I don't want :facepalm:
Keep trying Caro. I got really good tickets for SPOTY last year quite late...I just went onto ticket sale site several times each day not expecting any joy (was well practised after the hunt for tickets for Ghent!) and lo and behold one day these tickets came up! They might release some more tickets nearer the time when they have sorted out the stage, extra seating etc. Fingers crossed!

roytennisfan
18-10-2016, 16:19
Wish I had realised! Shame to miss it seeing as it's on my doorstep .... but only tickets now are right at the back which I don't want :facepalm:

I might have a spare, block 16 but at the back

Pedwards14
19-10-2016, 08:49
Andy Murray is in the form of his life and will definitely get my vote. By the time of the event he could actually be officially the number 1 player in the world. He's won the Italian Open , Queens, Wimbledon, an Olympic gold as well as supporting the Davus Cup team admirably. He was unbeaten during the Asian swing and his charity event in Scotland was a huge success. All this on the back of becoming a new dad! Vote Murray

Caro
19-10-2016, 12:04
I might have a spare, block 16 but at the back
Thanks for the offer Roy but it's so far away right at the back ... might as well watch on TV.

Helen40
19-10-2016, 12:08
Andy's odds on again :)I reckon a WR1 will mean he's a deffo.

LC the fan
19-10-2016, 14:48
Has anyone ever won SPOTY three times before. I can think of 2 or 3 'doubles' but three times ? would that be another Andy milestone ?

sir coolerking
19-10-2016, 15:30
Only 3 others have won it twice - Henry Cooper, Nigel Mansell and Damon Hill.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_Sports_Personality_of_the_Year_Award

It's an odd list, I particularly like the New Zealand Speedway rider who managed to be 2nd twice in the 60's. Imagine the uproar if he'd somehow beaten Bobby Moore in '66!

Rosalind
19-10-2016, 20:12
I would vote for Andy but now wondering if Jess won't get it after her retirement announcement.

cazza99
19-10-2016, 20:45
Latest bookies odds. Andy still favourite. Jess is a long way down. http://www.oddschecker.com/awards/sports-personality-of-the-year/winner

LC the fan
20-10-2016, 11:11
Would love to see Andy get a third title - what an awesome tribute to a great ambassador for sport.
Depends how its promoted I suppose .. I still think Brownlea will get it although in all honesty I think Mo Farah deserves the honour after all he has done. He seems to be another one who somehow doesn't appeal to the public.

However, my vote will, of course, go to our boy...with fingers crossed

themass15
20-10-2016, 14:00
I agree about Alistair Brownlee, although Mo really deserves it too. My vote of course will go to Andy.

angiebabez
21-10-2016, 10:19
Vote for andy http://www.teamgbball.com/team-gb-awards/

Stell
08-11-2016, 19:03
I'm wondering if Jamie Delgado might get nominated for coach of the year.

Pedwards14
17-11-2016, 22:52
Come on Andy fans we have to vote for our Any. He's having the year of his life on court. World number 1 going into the final weekend of the season.

Helen40
20-11-2016, 22:50
Here are the latest odds, go Muzzah!Andy Murray 1/2 Alistair Brownlee 5Laura Trott 11 Mo Farah 12

themass15
20-11-2016, 22:54
Has to be his again after this!

Alis
20-11-2016, 23:12
It surely must be Andy's for an unprecedented third time - no-one deserves it more!

Stell
21-11-2016, 08:08
I couldn't believe it, yesterday, when Castle said Andy wasn't even in the top twelve.

-J-
21-11-2016, 11:06
I couldn't believe it, yesterday, when Castle said Andy wasn't even in the top twelve.

Was stunned by that also, then put it down to castles ineptitude, even the BBC couldn't go as far as not including Andy in shortlist

Bardot
21-11-2016, 11:40
Bouncy most likely got the list from his friend and colleague, KKK Hopkins. :rolleyes: The tiniest piece of research would have shown that Andy's been favourite for the bumptious BBC bash since he won Wimbledon. No doubt Andy will receive flak for not attending this year.

Sallydaisy
21-11-2016, 12:14
I couldn't believe it, yesterday, when Castle said Andy wasn't even in the top twelve.
My understanding is that the Nominees are put together by a panel of sports 'experts'. Which means they have a particularly hard task this year given our success at the Olympics. Hence Bouncy might have been right (until Andy won last night) because there may be a raft of names up for consideration.

The selection process for contenders was changed for the 2012 and subsequent awards by the introduction of an expert panel. The panel produces a shortlist that reflects UK sporting achievements on the national and/or international stage, represents the breadth and depth of UK sports and takes into account ‘impact’ within and beyond the sport or sporting achievement in question.

So that is quite different to any bookmakers lists which don't have to agree with the BBC.
Although it looks as though Andy is still the favourite today!

William Hill SPOTY odds 21/11/16

1/6 Andy Murray
7/1 A. Brownlee
16/1 Laura Trott, Mo Farah
33/1 Gareth Bale
66/1 Jason Kenny, Max Whitlock, Lewis Hamilton, Nick Skelton
100/1 Peaty, Joshua, Frampton, Dujardin, Froome, Willett, Vardy, Ennis-Hill, Rose, Cavendish, Storey, Adams, Wiggins

themass15
21-11-2016, 12:14
Bouncy must be living in cloud cuckoo land

themass15
21-11-2016, 12:15
I always look at Oddschecker because that gives all the odds and Andy has been ahead of Brownlee for a while now. They were evens at one point.

JAMES4578
21-11-2016, 12:31
Certainly it's up to the panel to decide the nominees and not sure of the cut off point but even before the World Tour Finals got to believe Andy would be in the mix. Know there will be hard choices in an Olympic year though.

Bardot
21-11-2016, 13:37
The "expert panel" had already chosen their top 10 last year before the Davis Cup final and Andy along with Tyson Fury were added later to make it a top 12. The only reason for not shortlisting Andy this year would be to give the rest a chance. ;) Will Bradley Wiggins be on the list but then Lance Armstrong did win the Overseas SPOTY when there were plenty rumours circulating about him not that I'm suggesting they are in any way similar.

Hawkeye
21-11-2016, 13:54
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they leave Andy out to "give someone else a chance".

Alis
21-11-2016, 15:41
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they leave Andy out to "give someone else a chance".

I think there would be an absolute outcry if they left Andy out. He clearly merits nomination, no matter how many times he has won it before. I would certainly be at the front of the queue to lodge a complaint.

themass15
21-11-2016, 16:32
I think there would be absolute outcry if they left Andy out. He clearly merits nomination, no matter how many times he has won it before. I would certainly be at the front of the queue to lodge a complaint.

Especially given that he has achieved more than anyone else over the year!!!!!

Bardot
21-11-2016, 19:36
Maybe Jamie could be shortlisted instead. I'm sure Andy wouldn't mind and would be as proud as punch plus more chance of Jamie being there. ;)

Alis
21-11-2016, 21:11
I don't see why Jamie shouldn't be nominated too.

Rosalind
22-11-2016, 14:44
I think it's a done deal. Alistair who? :rolling:

themass15
22-11-2016, 16:23
Jamie won't get nominated - too many others in Olympic year.

Alis
22-11-2016, 19:42
Jamie won't get nominated - too many others in Olympic year.

I agree but in a non-Olympic year, he surely would have merited nomination. When I think of some who have won in the past - Greg, for example, for losng in the US final! Does anyone know when the short list is announced?

banskogirl
22-11-2016, 19:46
Maybe they could put them up for nomination as a pair :) for making history together!

TheHippyJesus
22-11-2016, 19:52
I agree but in a non-Olympic year, he surely would have merited nomination. When I think of some who have won in the past - Greg, for example, for losng in the US final! Does anyone know when the short list is announced?
Last year it was on November 30th

Alis
22-11-2016, 20:24
Maybe they could put them up for nomination as a pair :) for making history together!

Torvill and Dean won as a pair!

LC the fan
22-11-2016, 21:24
Andy has, reportedly, informed the BBC that he cannot be at Spoty this year. Because his father is getting married his training in Miami will be a week later. He said he had every intention of coming back as last year's winner but unfortunately the wedding came up.
True or not ???? But that means the BBC have contacted him

WimbledonWestie
22-11-2016, 21:51
All our top sports stars get invited and especially Olympic gold medalists. So regardless of whether or not he was being nominated he'd be invited to be in audience. Still think he'll be nominated- -and win.

Bardot
22-11-2016, 22:43
Andy said in an interview on Sunday that he flies to Miami on Monday 5th December after his father's wedding and will be there for two and half weeks returning just before Christmas. Unless he changes his plans he'll definitely not be at SPOTY in person on the 18th December. Fire up that satellite link.

goldfish
22-11-2016, 23:05
And get Judy primed for when they b...s it up and need a fill-in

Linda
22-11-2016, 23:45
Maybe they should nominate Judy! ;)

Rosalind
22-11-2016, 23:53
Andy said in an interview on Sunday that he flies to Miami on Monday 5th December after his father's wedding and will be there for two and half weeks returning just before Christmas. Unless he changes his plans he'll definitely not be at SPOTY in person on the 18th December. Fire up that satellite link.

and somebody get the trophy out to Miami quick! ;)

AllyB
23-11-2016, 00:29
If Lennox Lewis is busy, I'm sure I could pop over to present the trophy for them this year.

Helen40
23-11-2016, 09:09
I for one will be VPOed if he doesn't get nominated and win. I can't even think of anyone who comes close, and the bookies agree.

Alis
23-11-2016, 10:53
It would be absolutely ridiculous if he wasn't nominated - it would make a nonsense of the whole process.

sir coolerking
23-11-2016, 12:52
In a year where there were nearly 30 Olympic gold medals, featuring some big stories with the likes of Trott, Kenny, Brownlee and Farah, it is astonishing that Andy is 1-6 with the bookies to win SPOTY again. But that's what his achievements amount to.

suttontennis
23-11-2016, 13:04
As the great British public are managing to keep Ed Balls in Strictly for as long as this, I can see Marcus Willis winning SPOTY.

sir coolerking
23-11-2016, 13:09
It'll probably be won by a complete unknown called Sporty McSportface!!

Caro
25-11-2016, 09:23
He had better be nominated!! It's in Birmingham this year and I was going to look out for last minute tickets but if Andy's not going to be there, that's my decision made, I don't think I'll bother going :sad: Although I'm sure it would still be good in an Olympic year.

Josephine
25-11-2016, 09:28
Marcus Willis probably would beat Andy in a popular vote. The amount of coverage he got. And the other reason..

Alis
25-11-2016, 09:50
Do you really think so?

Helen40
25-11-2016, 09:51
When do the official nominations get announced?

Helen40
25-11-2016, 09:56
Never mind, I've found it. It's on the One show at 19.00 on Monday.http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/38071853

Jane
25-11-2016, 09:58
At the end of the day we have to VOTE and not take anything for granted. Its all we can do.

suttontennis
25-11-2016, 10:20
Marcus Willis probably would beat Andy in a popular vote. The amount of coverage he got. And the other reason..

I doubt many of the sport watching public can even remember Marcus's name now. He was a good 'human interest' story for the media. I'm stumped for 'the other reason'.

suttontennis
25-11-2016, 10:22
I'm really not bothered if Andy wins SPOTY or not. On his list of this year's achievements, it would come a long way down.

Teresa
25-11-2016, 15:27
I would like him to win it, and then announce he no longer wishes to have his name put forward in the future to give others a chance. 3 times would be fun.

themass15
25-11-2016, 16:34
Yes he should win it this year, but maybe going forward give others a chance.

Helen40
25-11-2016, 16:42
Call me a selfish Andy fan but I'd like him to win it as many times as possible. If he's done more for sport and achieved more than anyone else that year, then I'll still vote him. He works very and has sacrificed so much. Tennis players have a relatively short shelf life, so I'm happy for him to keep winning ti while he can.

patlowe
25-11-2016, 16:55
Call me a selfish Andy fan but I'd like him to win it as many times as possible. If he's done more for sport and achieved more than anyone else that year, then I'll still vote him. He works very and has sacrificed so much. Tennis players have a relatively short shelf life, so I'm happy for him to keep winning ti while he can.
Have to agree Helen40. And I also think it's a case of the more he wins, the more we want for him. Bring it all on!

RosieBear
25-11-2016, 16:58
Call me a selfish Andy fan but I'd like him to win it as many times as possible. If he's done more for sport and achieved more than anyone else that year, then I'll still vote him. He works very and has sacrificed so much. Tennis players have a relatively short shelf life, so I'm happy for him to keep winning ti while he can.

Not selfish at all, and completely agree Helen - should be awarded on merit, nothing else, and Andy is head and shoulders above everyone. 'Letting others have a chance' flies in the face of competitive sport (the one place we're spared the painfully pc notion of 'participation trophies'). Plus, as an award voted for by the public, it means the world to Andy who teared up both times he won, and I can't think he's ever going to get tired of this outpouring of respect and affection from the public to offset the crap he has taken over the years.

Josephine
25-11-2016, 17:59
Do you really think so?

Twas tongue in cheek.

Stell
25-11-2016, 18:53
I know Andy is still the favourite to win it. I remember the first time, he won it. He was in Miami and they had to give him a replica trophy, just in case he did win it. As he'll be in Miami, again, will they give him the same replica trophy again?

Alis
25-11-2016, 19:42
Twas tongue in cheek.

I was sure it was!

Stell
28-11-2016, 12:15
The contenders will be announced on the One show at 7pm tonight.

themass15
28-11-2016, 13:37
It will be a great injustice if Andy is not on the list!!!!!!

Alis
28-11-2016, 18:51
Of course he'll be on the list - absolutely no doubt about it! Looking forward to seeing who will be his opposition though.

Stell
28-11-2016, 19:03
16 of them.

Alis
28-11-2016, 19:04
16 of them.

Really? Are there usually so many?

-J-
28-11-2016, 19:05
Really? Are there usually so many?
normally 12 I think

cazza99
28-11-2016, 19:08
I think it was 10 last year and then they added Andy and another cos of achievements at the end of the year.

cazza99
28-11-2016, 19:09
Yes - Andy is included :yahoo:

-J-
28-11-2016, 19:09
andys on short list

roytennisfan
28-11-2016, 19:11
After Nicola then lol

roytennisfan
28-11-2016, 19:12
2 footballers?

Stell
28-11-2016, 19:12
Jamie Vardy, Gareth Bale, Nick Skelton, Sophie Christiansen, Kate Richardson-Walsh, Danny Willett, Nicola Adams and Andy Murray.

Alis
28-11-2016, 19:13
No contest then!

cazza99
28-11-2016, 19:13
And they are using Laura Trott's married name as Laura Kenny - they have her hubby down too.

-J-
28-11-2016, 19:14
no short listings for winning TDF or his TUEs mate lol

roytennisfan
28-11-2016, 19:14
Love Mo

roytennisfan
28-11-2016, 19:15
First husband and wife nominees?

cazza99
28-11-2016, 19:16
They ought to have a best sports family award.

roytennisfan
28-11-2016, 19:16
No Jess

Stell
28-11-2016, 19:18
The other eight are: Alistair Brownlee, Dame Sarah Storey, Kadeena Cox, Jason and Laura Kenny, Adam Peaty, Mo Farah and Max Whitlock.

-J-
28-11-2016, 19:22
much as i like jess, she hasnt done anything this year to be on the list
No Jess

Alis
28-11-2016, 19:25
no short listings for winning TDF or his TUEs mate lol

Sorry ........... me no understand.

roytennisfan
28-11-2016, 19:41
much as i like jess, she hasnt done anything this year to be on the list

Didn't stop Ryan Giggs winning it in a year he was "rested" for over half the matches, with Jess retirement I still expected her to get on the 16

-J-
28-11-2016, 19:50
Sorry ........... me no understand.Chris Froome and wiggins

Alis
28-11-2016, 19:59
Chris Froome and wiggins

Ah - of course! Far too subtle for me being a bear of little brain!

patlowe
28-11-2016, 20:05
They ought to have a best sports family award.
That's a no brainer too...the Murrays! :big grin:

cazza99
28-11-2016, 20:09
That's a no brainer too...the Murrays! :big grin:

There is also the Brownlie brothers and the Kennys.

patlowe
28-11-2016, 20:13
There is also the Brownlie brothers and the Kennys.
I know, but I am so biased!!

jackie55
28-11-2016, 21:56
Looking at the list of nominees, l see that Andy has been in the mix every year since 2004 apart from 2010 and 2014 - wow that is some record:thumbup::thumbup: not sure if anyone else has been nominated so many times ....so proud of our Andy :trophy::trophy:

Bardot
28-11-2016, 22:20
2 footballers?

And with huge fan bases who can skew the result and produce a "Ryan Giggs" type winner. It's as if they've been added to make it a contest.

cazza99
28-11-2016, 22:26
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/38128822) - BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2016: Meet the contenders

BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/sports-personality/38128821) - BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2016: Shortlist of 16 revealed for award

sir coolerking
29-11-2016, 09:58
And with huge fan bases who can skew the result and produce a "Ryan Giggs" type winner. It's as if they've been added to make it a contest.

Bale could be a threat actually if the Welsh get behind him. He deserves to be on the list, he's comfortably the best British footballer, won the Champions League and he helped Wales to the Euro semis.

The glaring omission to me is Froome and just highlights the failings in the BBC's sporting coverage and their desire to be politically correct. Andy won his 3rd GS this year, Froome his 3rd T de F..........whilst I am obviously a huge Andy fan I fail to see how Froome's outstanding achievement has been overlooked. He'd be top 3 for me.

Alis
29-11-2016, 10:09
The list will always be contentious. Froome's omission is possibly because two cyclists have been included - albeit track cyclists. He may also be suffering from Wiggins' bad publicity. In a non-Olympic year, he probably would have been there but you could also say that, if it wasn't for Andy, Jamie may well have been nominated. I suppose they have to draw the line somewhere. Seemingly, there is huge public support for Nick Skelton.

sir coolerking
29-11-2016, 11:16
And what of the likes of Itoje, Farrell or Vunipola? Key members of the unbeaten England rugby side, Grandslam winners in the 6 nations, first England side to whitewash the Aussies, and also European Champions with Saracens?

I really want Andy to win, but I feel the list is de-valued by the BBC's need to be inclusive, PC and largely ignore sports they don't cover.

Stell
29-11-2016, 11:52
The BBC do show rugby, but I think they usually just show the Six Nations.

sir coolerking
29-11-2016, 13:07
They do show the 6 Nations, but they've even managed to lose half the rights of that to ITV.

Teresa
29-11-2016, 13:48
I think the problem with Froome is whilst he has British parents, he really rides for Britain under a flag of convenience. He has never lived or paid his taxed here. Farah also lives in the USA now. Both of them are hindered by the cloud hanging over their respective sports.

If Mr M doesn't get it, I hope Nick Skelton does. A true fairy tale.

themass15
29-11-2016, 13:49
And what of the likes of Itoje, Farrell or Vunipola? Key members of the unbeaten England rugby side, Grandslam winners in the 6 nations, first England side to whitewash the Aussies, and also European Champions with Saracens?

I really want Andy to win, but I feel the list is de-valued by the BBC's need to be inclusive, PC and largely ignore sports they don't cover.

They don't cover much sport these days!

Alis
29-11-2016, 14:42
The BBC couldn't afford the fee the English Rugby Union were asking but they still cover the other home nations - maybe they weren't so greedy!;)

sir coolerking
29-11-2016, 14:44
I think the problem with Froome is whilst he has British parents, he really rides for Britain under a flag of convenience. He has never lived or paid his taxed here. Farah also lives in the USA now. Both of them are hindered by the cloud hanging over their respective sports.



I get the cloud hanging over the sport thing and I'm sure that has an impact for Farah (certainly does for me). But we have a pair of Kennys in the shortlist. It is fairly obvious that the Beeb are favouring sports they cover (as well as being as inclusive as possible).

If you truely chose the 15 best British athletes of the year, Froome would have to be one of them.

Alis
29-11-2016, 15:10
The problem with nominating two athletes from one sport is that it inevitably divides the vote - unless people vote for both, of course. If the cycling vote and the football vote are divided, it will probably help the single representatives. I believe there hasn't been a female winner for over ten years - not that I expect that to make any difference!

AllyB
29-11-2016, 16:00
And what of the likes of Itoje, Farrell or Vunipola? Key members of the unbeaten England rugby side, Grandslam winners in the 6 nations, first England side to whitewash the Aussies, and also European Champions with Saracens?

I really want Andy to win, but I feel the list is de-valued by the BBC's need to be inclusive, PC and largely ignore sports they don't cover.

I can see the argument for Vunipola and maybe It one, but Farrell? He has to be one of the most overrated players in world rugby. Excellent goal kicker but leaves a huge amount to be desired in open play.

sir coolerking
29-11-2016, 16:20
The problem with nominating two athletes from one sport is that it inevitably divides the vote - unless people vote for both, of course. If the cycling vote and the football vote are divided, it will probably help the single representatives. I believe there hasn't been a female winner for over ten years - not that I expect that to make any difference!

I believe the last female to win was from the equestrian community.........no doubt they look after their own and vote heavily. However, that was a weak year and no doubt she benefitted from the Royalty aspect too.

It's a good call about the cycling vote being split. I reckon Laura will beat Jason.

I think Bale or Skelton are the biggest threat to Andy.

Teresa
29-11-2016, 16:42
On The Times poll Mr M has 56.3% of the vote. Alistair Brownlee comes in next with 11.4%, and Mo Farah 3rd with 10.5%.

About 350 votes.

Alis
29-11-2016, 21:56
Does anyone have a link to The Times vote?

pabbers
29-11-2016, 22:18
Well we all know how accurate polls have been of late!

JAMES4578
29-11-2016, 23:06
Whilst I think Andy stands out particularly after securing the no1 ranking, there have been plenty of great sporting achievements by the Olympic athletes with a few of them being most memorable. Therefore whilst it would be great for Murray to be a 3 time winner wouldn't be devastated if it someone else's turn.

Rosalind
29-11-2016, 23:46
here is a link to the Guardian's poll. A similar figure to the one Teresa quotes from The Times

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/28/bbc-sports-personality-year-andy-murray-spoty-who-win-award

Teresa
30-11-2016, 06:42
Does anyone have a link to The Times vote?



http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/its-hard-to-recall-a-more-blatant-snub-to-two-true-stars-dm0fqnlmg

Stell
30-11-2016, 09:43
Radio five live have started going through the Sports Personality list and interviewing them. Today, it was Alistair Brownlee.

banskogirl
30-11-2016, 20:45
On The Times poll Mr M has 56.3% of the vote. Alistair Brownlee comes in next with 11.4%, and Mo Farah 3rd with 10.5%.

About 350 votes.

57% in the Guardian now :)

Bardot
01-12-2016, 23:28
Andy was announced the winner (again) of the Sports Personality of the Year at the Scottish Sports Awards in Glasgow tonight. :trophy: Jamie was on the shortlist. Judy accepted the award on his behalf.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyoFSfHW8AASFSj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyoIHkTXAAEvdk_.jpg

Andy didn't win the Inspirational Performance Award where he was nominated for winning Olympic gold. The winner was boxer Ricky Burns who held world titles at three different weights. Gordon Reid was the Disability Award winner.

Stell
03-12-2016, 08:27
BBC 1 will be showing a one hour programme on the 15th about the contenders. But, why so late? It starts at 10.45pm (22.45pm).

Stell
05-12-2016, 18:51
I saw the BBC have put Andy's speech, from last year, on their website. So, had to watch it again.

Stell
08-12-2016, 11:27
BBC 1 will be showing the repeat of the contenders on the 17th at 1.15pm (13.15pm). Then, Pointless Celebrities will be doing a Sports Personality special at 5.50pm (17.50pm) on the same evening.

Linda
10-12-2016, 17:33
They can't possibly choose anyone else :cauldron:

LC the fan
10-12-2016, 19:30
My son, an avid sports fan - especially football, athletics and golf - who has often teased me about and never fully shared my total adoration of Andy stated today that there was no question who has had the greatest sporting success this year.
He said Andy was only one possible winner amongst a field of also-rand.
Coming from him that was an unprejudiced and fair appraisal and I felt fully reassured. Anyone else would be a travesy

Rosalind
10-12-2016, 20:12
My son, an avid sports fan - especially football, athletics and golf - who has often teased me about and never fully shared my total adoration of Andy stated today that there was no question who has had the greatest sporting success this year.
He said Andy was only one possible winner amongst a field of also-rand.
Coming from him that was an unprejudiced and fair appraisal and I felt fully reassured. Anyone else would be a travesy

My mum says it can't be anyone else... like your son, she's not bothered and only watches to spot me in the crowds! These are good unbiased opinions which give me confidence.

Rosalind
10-12-2016, 20:14
fyi - there is a twitter member called spoty2016 doing a good job to promote Andy as SPOTY winner. I also intend tweeting like crazy on the evening.

https://twitter.com/PeterSm70988262

patlowe
10-12-2016, 21:03
I know someone who is definitely not an Andy fan (poor soul, she has a problem!), and even she says that she can't see anyone other than Andy win SPOTY...she reckons he's a stand out winner due to everything he has achieved this year. Believe me that is really good coming from her!

Stell
12-12-2016, 08:28
The BBC's Red Button will be showing the sports stars arriving on the red carpet from 5.10pm (17.10pm) until 6pm (18.00pm) on Sunday.

Jan
12-12-2016, 11:36
We have our carols by candlelight on Sunday at 6pm. Really hope I'm back in time to vote - not sure what time that will be.

Rosalind
12-12-2016, 12:16
The BBC's Red Button will be showing the sports stars arriving on the red carpet from 5.10pm (17.10pm) until 6pm (18.00pm) on Sunday.

Last year they also did something after - I think on the radio only and with John Inverdale so it is what it is but.... Andy was and hopefully will be involved (although maybe not if out in Miami).

themass15
12-12-2016, 13:19
The BBC's Red Button will be showing the sports stars arriving on the red carpet from 5.10pm (17.10pm) until 6pm (18.00pm) on Sunday.

I am out on a Christmas lunch with neighbours so definitely won't be watching that and I don't think you can record red button. Andy won't be arriving on the red carpet unless he changes his plans.

Rosalind
12-12-2016, 15:58
I am out on a Christmas lunch with neighbours so definitely won't be watching that and I don't think you can record red button. Andy won't be arriving on the red carpet unless he changes his plans.

if you can find out the number that the "red button" is assigned to, I think you can record it. Maybe have a practice with other things first.