View Full Version : AO 2017, R4: Andy taken out by Mischa Zverev in 4 sets
Sallydaisy
20-01-2017, 13:54
Andy's into Round 4 at the 2017 Australian Open. His opponent will be German player Mischa Zverev, currently ranked #50, who is enjoying a good run of form, perhaps spurred on by the exploits of his younger brother (now ranked #24).
Despite being the same age (29), and both being on the tour as professionals since 2005, they have only met once before on the ATP tour and Andy leads the H2H (http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/fedex-head-2-head/mischa-zverev-vs-andy-murray/Z168/MC10) by 1-0. That win came on outdoor clay, in the R16, at the 2015 Munich event. Andy also beat Mischa in 2 Futures events before both turned professional.
We'll post the match time as soon as possible; I'm hoping for the night match again on RLA so's I can watch it on Sunday morning over a nice brunch!!!
:skippy:
sir coolerking
20-01-2017, 15:50
Can't see this being night match, I'm sure that will be Kei v Fed. I doubt he'd be disappointed if he were sent to Hisense again, gets loads more Brit support there.
themass15
20-01-2017, 17:17
If it's a night match I am sure it won't be on RLA.
Andy third match on RLA after two women's matches. Fed v Kei unsurprisingly is the night match.
themass15
21-01-2017, 08:45
Andy unsurprisingly 3rd match on Rod Laver Arena tomorrow morning. Another very early one!!!! I hope it doesn't happy what happed yesterday when I got up far too early and couldn't get back to sleep.
Guess the match will start between 3.30 and 4.30 am.
annoyingly it has not got even a "not before" time
roytennisfan
21-01-2017, 10:51
The ladies ties are so hard to judge, they could be both long 3 setters or over in a hour each (+ warm ups of course), hopefully Andy will be more predictable and get it over in 3 in 2 hours or so
It was obvious that Fed v Kei was going to be the night match. The only quibble I have with that is that, if Andy gets through, I'm sure his quarter final will be the night match and, whether it's Fed or Kei, they will both be more used to the conditions than Andy. Hey, ho - it is what it is!
Nadal beat one Zverev, lets hope Sir Andy can beat the other one.
LC the fan
21-01-2017, 15:03
Mischa is a serve and volley freak. I watched him at Sydney and he was rushing the net on practically every serve - whether first or second. Think Andy will enjoy passing him both sides and with a few delicious lobs.
Mischa Zverev's ranking went from 171 at the beginning of 2016 to 50 by the end but that was mainly due to 2 tournaments in October where he halved his ranking in the space of two weeks. He reached the QF in Shanghai as a qualifier and was only 2 points away from beating Djokovic and then reached the SF of Basel two weeks later beating Wawrinka in the QF. In 2017 he lost in the 2nd round of Brisbane to Nadal 1-6 1-6 and the 2nd round of Sydney to Carreno Busta in 3 sets.
The heat is forecast to return tomorrow with a high of 30C during the day but a very pleasant 19C in the evening. ;)
banskogirl
21-01-2017, 16:13
Another late/early one.......will be recording this and Dan's and watching both before seeing a score!
Not enjoying being afraid to stay up late but Andy winning is the important thing!
This tournament is killing me. Need to try to sleep through this one. Got overnight trips to and from Dublin, as well next week to cope with.
I'm not a great sleeper, so when I do get to sleep I want to make the most of it - I don't really want to be having the alarm go off at 4am. Not good for me
supergran
21-01-2017, 20:30
I shall be watching it as usual. I haven't actually slept in bed since supergramps arrived home last Friday. Needed to see how he would adjust to sleeping downstairs.
How are you both doing SG?
All the very best of luck, Andy :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
supergran
21-01-2017, 21:05
How are you both doing SG?
Much better thanks. Circumstances not condition. Carers four times a day helps a lot.
So glad that you're getting the help you both need SG and that the situation is getting a little easier for you.
The Very Best of Luck Andy!!!:thumbup::thumbup:
I won't be getting up for this so.....
All the best Andy! Play well and get the W! :boogie:
WimbledonWestie
22-01-2017, 00:21
Neither will I sadly, need my wits about me next 2 weeks due to inspection, can't mess about too much with my sleep. Though I will be making sure all my lessons are prepped and paperwork done by end of this week to ensure I'm free to watch the finals. There are limits to how much my job can encroach on tennis!
david1610
22-01-2017, 03:19
In the match before, V. Williams v M. Barthel, it is 6-3 5-5. Wonder if it is going to be over in a few minutes, or a long third set? Here's hoping... PS 1:29 for 19 games so far so 4 1/2 minutes per game.
Make that 6-5 to Venus. 7-5 win. Next is Andy!!!!!!
Venus 6-5 serving for the match
Venus took it notnlong now till Andy's on court
Andy wins the toss and elects to serve so Zverev moves him to serve from the end with the sun in his eyes. ;)
:sleepy: :sleepy: :sleepy: Good morning folks
david1610
22-01-2017, 03:50
C'mon Andy! (Is that you know who sitting next to his brother?).
Andy up and running
1-0
Cmonnnnn
C'mon Andy! (Is that you know who sitting next to his brother?).
Looking green with envy
C'mon Andy! (Is that you know who sitting next to his brother?).
Morning all . No, missed that, who is sitting next to his brother?
"King of the Lobs". Deuce
david1610
22-01-2017, 03:56
Morning all . No, missed that, who is sitting next to his brother?
A certain fitness coach who used to work with Andy until a certain female coach came along...
So much for sleeping through it. Come on SAM make this quick please. Good morning all.
Zverev lefty serves save him. 1-1
Zverev has won the two longest rallies so far.
david1610
22-01-2017, 04:04
Re my previous comment http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/australian-open-zverev-aims-to-topple-andy-murray-as-he-leads-charge-of-next-generation-a6818411.html
Couple aces to end the game from deuce
Cmonnnn
Andy serves himself out of trouble. This could be interesting.
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 04:07
C'mon Andy :cheer:
Takes it
Good lad
Now safe hold
Cmonnnn
40-0 to deuce and Zverev wins another long rally.
Cmon Andy finish it
Cmonnn
Another Bp. C'mon Andy!!!!!!
Ok Andy straight back at him
Cmonnn
................... and Andy hands back the break. Where has Mischa Zverev been for the last been n number of years? He's certainly giving Andy the run around at the moment.
david1610
22-01-2017, 04:22
There are so few serve and volleyers nowadays that Andy is going to have to put his thinking cap on, especially as to how hard to place the ball, and where. His opponent is also playing at the top of his game. C'mon Andy!
It's great to watch though. If he wasn't playing Andy I'd be rooting for Mischa.
Defiantly tricky
Could be very entertaining match
Cmonnnn
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 04:25
C'mon Andy :cheer: Obviously I want Andy to come through comfortably, but kudos to Mischa for demonstrating the virtues of a s&v game.
Lucky net cord - everything's going for Mischa at the moment. Two more break points.
david1610
22-01-2017, 04:27
Wake up! I think Andy is a bit bambuzzled at the moment! Think it out but hold serve! C'mon Andy!
A bit less chat from the commies would be nice!!
Nice to see Andy win a rally
Cmonnnn
What's worrying is that he's staying with Andy in the rallies.
A bit less chat from the commies would be nice!!
Always!
That was a Murray shot from Zverev!
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 04:30
C'mon Andy claim his beloved net with your own fantastic hands!
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 04:30
Andy will have to do a lot of thinking here...but if anyone can he can.and I don't believe MV can keep this up for long, not 5 sets anyway
Tough hold, saves 2BPs. 4-3
Andy came to the net and won the point - maybe he has to play him at his own game. Well held, Andy.
Well held
Now let's look for an opportunity
Cmonnn
Okay - time for another break, Andy.
Gifted a chance
Bp
Cmonnnn
Please serve it out easily.
............. and there's the break. Now serve it out Andy pleeease.
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 04:37
Bit of a gift there, but take full advantage Andy
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 04:38
Andy came to the net and won the point - maybe he has to play him at his own game. Well held, Andy.
Exactly this. The only thing that ever frustates me about Andy's play is his reluctance to come forward when he is sooo talented at the net. Not saying he should morph into a s&v freak, (to use LC's fantastic terminology), just utlise *all* his incredible skills.
Another break required Andy
Cmonnn
Rats!! That most definitely wasn't in the script. Just break again Andy and start serving the next set.
Andy has won only 4/14 points on his 2nd serve.
david1610
22-01-2017, 04:41
Andy starting to chunter a little bit. Got to stay patient and focus. C'mon Andy!
It's almost as if Andy needs the same patience required for playing a big server.
Zverev has certainly unsettled Andy - he hasn't been allowed to settle into his game at all.
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 04:44
I have great faith in Andys ability to work out how to play this...sooner than later please Andy. I actually think Andy is enjoying this challenge
C'mon, Andy - we really don't want this to go to a tie-break.
Andy not getting the lobs in. 5-5
Any hold will do for now
Cmonnnnn
david1610
22-01-2017, 04:45
Stay focused now. C'mon Andy!
Easy hold, Andy, then try again. It's interesting that the Zverev brothers play totally differently to one another. That's twice Andy's come to the net and lost the point.
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 04:46
I have great faith in Andys ability to work out how to play this...sooner than later please Andy. I actually think Andy is enjoying this challenge
+1.
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 04:46
Wow, where has this guy been ?
david1610
22-01-2017, 04:47
I know you like one-on-one battles Andy, but don't take this guy on for S&V!
Yet another break point - c'monnnnn!
............. there it is and Zverev is serving for the set.
Now we will take a TB
Cmonnnn andy
Now only 4/16 points on his 2nd serve.
scrapaddict
22-01-2017, 04:51
Fun tennis but needing the sofa! Still its only set 1 and can Mischa keep this up??
What did I say about a tie-break? I'll happily settle for a tie-break now.
What is worrying is that Andy is missing shots he'd usually put away in his sleep.
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 04:53
Andy is being out thought out there at the minute, but confident he will work it out. This reminds me of the way Andy struggles againt Steps. C'mon Andy you can do this, knock Mischa off his game, you can stop him imposing it - make him the uncomfortable one out there!
ACE & Z holds to love for the set. 5-7
Double on no, no, no. Not in the script:-(
Andy was the only player in the last 16 not to drop a set, not any longer.
Will have to do it in four then fair enough
Cmonnnn
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 04:55
He is mistiming his lobs which could be so vital in this game.
But he can, he will, work this out
I can't believe that Andy broke twice in that set and didn't manage to put it away. I'm hoping that this is the one poor match Andy always seems to have at a Major and comes through. Re-group and start playing like the world number one, Andy!
themass15
22-01-2017, 04:56
Just come down to see Andy lose the last set. Trust he is being outplayed. Do hope this isn't another Istomin situation!
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 04:59
Phew...good hold
That was an important rally for Andy to win. Well held, Andy.
scrapaddict
22-01-2017, 04:59
Much better game - phew
david1610
22-01-2017, 05:00
Has anybody seen this guy? What normally causes him problems?
Has anybody seen this guy? What normally causes him problems?
Exactly what I was thinking. I don't think I've ever seen him play before - where has he been?
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:02
Has anybody seen this guy? What normally causes him problems?
Sometimes impatience. He can be forced into going for too much if he loses points. But little sign of that so far
Good start, Andy - easy hold now.
david1610
22-01-2017, 05:03
Normally I would be very optimistic when Andy breaks but it is the holding that is the key. C'mon Andy!
Now can he hold after a break finally. I hate to say it but Mischa's recent head to head against some good players is very good.
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:04
Great! All you've got to do is hold Andy. Easy ;)
A double fault is just not what was needed.
Cmonnnn Andy find the rhythm
Wow - Andy got lucky there.
Phewwww
Now close it oot
Cmonnn
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:07
Look where he stands on Andys second serve...how cheeky...and its working
String them together
Cmonnn
Did well to hold
Now for some insurance
Cmonnnñ
Phew - Andy was lucky to get out of that game after serving two doubles. Okay, foot down now boy - an insurance break would be good.
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:09
That's looking a bit better...time for a cup of tea
Heart in mouth with every second serve at the moment. ;)
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:11
This is excellent. I love watching Andy rise to a challenge. And this is a very interesting challenge - he works tricky old Steps out, and he'll work Mischa out :thumbup: Go Andy!
Thank goodness for that. We need another break ASAP please Sir A.
Easy hold for Zverev - we could do with the same from Andy.
I don't think Andy's made a lob since the beginning of the match.
............ and Andy loses another rally he should have won. Rats - a lucky net cord and we 0-30 again. C'monnnn!!!
Oh Gawd, was 3-1 up in 1st when I switched on and look what happened there?, now 3-1 in 2nd! Feeling twitchy!
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:15
0-30. I can't bear it
Point at a time Andy
Cmonnn
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:16
Oh Gawd, was 3-1 up in 1st when I switched on and look what happened there?, now 3-1 in 2nd! Feeling twitchy!
Me too, came down thinking, oh a break already. I haven't relaxed since
Yet another miss and Andy hands the break back. Just have to break again, Andy.
On serve Andy
Breakxhim again
Cmonnnn
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:18
I would really be enjoying this match if it wasn't Andy. Bet all the Stan supporters are having a ball
C'mon Andy - just settle down, cut out the mistakes and play as you know you can.
Big lefty serve again saves BP. Deuce
Gun slinger Andy's up for the fight
Hold
Cmonnnn
There's the break - now please just hold!
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:23
Now break this pattern and let's have a comfy hold please
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:24
Excellent! Well done Andy. I would only be worried if Andy wasn't breaking. He is. The problem is that he's struggled to an unsual degree to hold. But that is something he can and will improve :thumbup:
Once he has the 2nd set under his belt ........
Comfy ,ucky, tricky I don't care just hold
Cmonnnn
I find it worrying that Andy is missing so many easy shots - he's making it so much more difficult for himself.
................ another double. Zverev's returning has really got Andy worried.
Zverev keeps on coming at Andy. 4-3
Another easy shot goes long and we're back to square one. Just break again Andy.
Any chance of a rain delay? ;)
sloveniadave
22-01-2017, 05:29
This is torture.
Oh dear this is really difficult watching! He is just so unsure of what to do. Common believe!!
scrapaddict
22-01-2017, 05:29
too many UE's and 4 DF's not up toAndy's usual high standard. Fingers and toes tightly crossed!!
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:29
I find it worrying that Andy is missing so many easy shots - he's making it so much more difficult for himself.
He's being rushed out there by Mischa's attacking game. Just as Fed did to Berdy the other day, which is why I felt the comments against Tomas were a little unfair. It's incredibly difficult to deal with. Andy will do it though!
Andy's won nine games four of them breaks
When I get stressed I can't watch the stream and revert to flash scores, now I can't watch that!
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:31
I think Andy needs to take a bathroom break at the end of this set, whatever way it goes.
Mischa is scrambling his brains and he is thinking just a bit too much
Take something off you first serve please Andy.
This is a very important service game coming up - Andy really does need to hold here. I think I might just have to go walkabout.
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:35
No, no, no. Not in the script. Not sure what he can do apart from hope MV runs out of steam.
He did have a long 5 setter against Isner
Shot now keep it up
Cmonnn
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:36
Don't panic folks. This is Andy and he'll find a way. He's a grandmaster of tennis strategy :thumbup:
This is a very important service game coming up - Andy really does need to hold here. I think I might just have to go walkabout.
Dan might be on soon- could be easier watching?!!
Now Andy perfect time to push for the break
Cmonnn
At last, a love hold - now break for the set, Andy!
scrapaddict
22-01-2017, 05:37
now break break break
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:38
We've been here before in the first set.
Rewrite the script this time Andy
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:38
All together now "BREAK HIM ANDY'"
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:40
3 set points.....at last
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:42
Deuce. I can't bear it
david1610
22-01-2017, 05:42
AArgh he can't give away three set points to this guy! C'mon Andy!
4th set point
This time
Cmonnn
Still a glimmer here
Cmonnnn
LC the fan
22-01-2017, 05:44
AArgh he can't give away three set points to this guy! C'mon Andy!
He didn't 'give them away'. He isn't playing badly. He is having to go for shots and narrowly missing
ACE to hold & big serves on all 4SPs from Zverev. 5-5
Oh well
Hold get one more chance to break him
Cmonnn
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:46
Out tough him for the set Andy :cheer:
Good hold, now BREAK!!!!!!
Love a love hold
Now let's create some more opportunities
Cmonnn
david1610
22-01-2017, 05:48
The good news: if Andy breaks he does not have to hold in this set! ;)
RosieBear
22-01-2017, 05:49
Have it Andy :cheer:
The good news: if Andy breaks he does not have to hold in this set! ;)
............... and he would start serving the third.
Three more set points
Cmonnn
0-40 again. No mistakes this time please, Andy!
Phew - second set to Andy :yahoo: :yahoo:
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