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I've just read about the Bryan brothers announcing their retirement, yesterday, from playing in the Davis Cup.
themass15
23-01-2017, 11:23
Not surprising really given their commitment to it over so many years.
JAMES4578
23-01-2017, 12:08
Not too surprising , the Bryans have really given so much to DC and at this time in career need to decide on priorities.
Is anyone else surprised by Nick appearing on the Aussie team sheet? For all his moaning about people not supporting him and always getting at him, they pick him again! After his display in the AO. I know he and rusty are close and I guess maybe this is part of the Aussies trying to get him on track but it just seems to condone his behaviour. I will be cheering for the other side in this one! Guess it's anything for the win!
Even without Tsonga & Monfils, France should to be too strong for Japan which would mean a QF against France should GB beat Canada and Andy able to fulfil his commitment to Federer and play his charity exhibition. Lots of "ifs" in there. ;)
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I'm sure France have a great chance anyway, I'd be shocked if they didn't come through
Aussie team
Has Tomic said that he won't play and does anyone know what has happened to Kokkinakis? He seems to have disappeared from the scene - is he injured?
No Keith? France just have so many players to choose from!
Has Tomic said that he won't play and does anyone know what has happened to Kokkinakis? He seems to have disappeared from the scene - is he injured?
Kokkinkis was out of the Oz Open due to injury.
Tomic has been in an argument with Aussie tennis on and off for some time. Despite this is has played a lot of Davis cup. Last year he was particularly critical of nick when he withdrew from their tie and accused him of faking an injury. This year however it's Tomic's time to miss it. He is sighting scheduling conflicts, hardly surprising as the tie is early. Their have been accusations that his father encouraged him not to play though they both deny this and say they have a lot of respect for Hewitt.
Nadal has withdrawn from the Davis Cup tie in Croatia and is replaced by Lopez. Spain with RBA, Carreno Busta & Marc Lopez should still be too strong for Croatia without Cilic, Coric or Dodig. Their highest ranked player is Skugor at 221.
Much of the usual criticism about the Davis Cup format because there's only one player(Djokovic) in the top 12 competing this week. However it always seems to be the case that once the ties begin, the unique atmosphere takes over regardless who's playing.
themass15
30-01-2017, 16:47
The DC ties always seem to be just after something major happened. Apart from April the other 3 happen straight after a Slam. Not brilliant timing.
I'm sure they announced on Eurosport the other day that Nole wasn't playing.
roytennisfan
30-01-2017, 17:41
I'm sure they announced on Eurosport the other day that Nole wasn't playing.
No he is playing, tweeted a picture of the squad at the venue earlier today
Raffa (unsurprisingly), has withdrawn from the DC tie with Croatia. He will be replaced by Lopez. I really feel the Feb date is just too close to the AO. I know some players had issues with the format anyway but the match date for the first round seemed so much more manageable for them. Yellowlivi joked the other day that maybe the Feb date had been selected to show the format at its worst. Encourage people to support the two days. Whilst not deliberately so, I think the Feb date does show that.
Guerkins2
30-01-2017, 21:15
I'm sure they announced on Eurosport the other day that Nole wasn't playing.
Yes they definitely did because I commented to Hubbie that I thought they were wrong
Aussie v Czech DC line up Thomson plays first nick second. https://mobile.twitter.com/i/web/status/826941633891426305
It's a long way from where we are no, these guys are on the other side of the draw, but based on that a of we did get there a tie against the Aussies would be away, miles and miles away, I'll be cheering for the Czechs in this one. Though without Thomas I don't fancy their chances.
Serbian tie though dusan Vemic who was with djoko in the AO is still down as on coaching staff for the Serbian team (he was involved in the victory in the final they won), he is not the captain. The captain is listed as zimonjic. In addition to playing in the doubles this is his second stint as captain.
Serbia have only played Russia once, a tie they lost. They are playing djoko and triocki (tippy is still off injured), as they did in the 08 tie. Russia are playing kachanov (who had a career beat last year) and kuznetsov. As they are in our half of the draw I'll be cheering Serbia for this one. It will be intersteing to see how djoko is playing. I imagine they would be too strong for Russia, especially at home. Djoko playing is expected to bring in bigger crowds than when we went to Serbia!
France vs Japan taro v gasguet then yoshi v Simon https://mobile.twitter.com/DavisCup/status/826962134710046721
roytennisfan
02-02-2017, 01:36
France vs Japan taro v gasguet then yoshi v Simon https://mobile.twitter.com/DavisCup/status/826962134710046721
Did you stay up to find out?
Did you stay up to find out? unintentionally lol
roytennisfan
02-02-2017, 02:30
You'll have to stay up a long time for the gb draw!
Germany v Belgium first up kohlscriber v Darcis then A Zverev v Greef. I think Germany will come through this tie.
roytennisfan
02-02-2017, 13:07
Germany v Belgium first up kohlscriber v Darcis then A Zverev v Greef. I think Germany will come through this tie.
Yes without David certainly looks a bit one sided
Serbia v Russia - troicki v khachanov and then djoko v medvedev. What's unexpected is this draw for me is seeing troicki play the doubles as well as the singles. Perhaps they aren't expecting to need the third day
Keith posts a picture of himself practising on clay in Florida whilst missing a home tie in Japan. Cilic is playing Padel with Jonas Bjorkman in Stockholm whilst missing a home tie in Croatia. I can imagine the grief Andy would receive for missing a home tie in similar circumstances. I doubt Croatia is happy with Cilic but I wonder what the response is in Japan.
Westlife never looked this good and certainly never this cool. ;)
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[QUOTE=Bardot;201209]Westlife never looked this good and certainly never this cool
Or so tall :)
Keith posts a picture of himself practising on clay in Florida whilst missing a home tie in Japan. Cilic is playing Padel with Jonas Bjorkman in Stockholm whilst missing a home tie in Croatia. I can imagine the grief Andy would receive for missing a home tie in similar circumstances. I doubt Croatia is happy with Cilic but I wonder what the response is in Japan.
I'm sure a read tomic is also playing a tournie missing a home tie. I'm surprised Goff isn't playing though. Is he injured?
Yellowlivi
02-02-2017, 21:42
Obsessed much, Jerry? ;) I read that Goffin is just resting up after Australia, hopefully that's all.
Goff tweeted this picture today of him playing football (along with Dimitrov) whilst training at the Mouratoglu Academy in the south of France. He's taunting the loyal Belgian tennis fans. ;)
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I guess he's not injured then, just not ready for professional tennis yet.
More orders of play from the world group.
Spain v Croatia carreno busta v skugor then pavic v Bautista agut
Italy v Argentina pella v Lorenzi then berlocq v fognini
USA vs Switzerland sock v chiudinelli then isner v laarksonen
Well they are underway in Kooyong! Thompson has taken the first set for Australia.
sir coolerking
03-02-2017, 08:31
Two ties look over already with Australia taking a 2-0 lead over the Czechs and France doing likewise over Japan. All straight sets victories.
Two ties look over already with Australia taking a 2-0 lead over the Czechs and France doing likewise over Japan. All straight sets victories.
Especially as both the Aussies and the French have such sting doubles teams. Aussies score lines Thomson 6-3 6-3 6-4
nick 6-2 6-3 6-2.
French score lines gasguet 6-2 6-3 6-2 and Simon 6-3 6-3 6-4
I wanted France to win and thought they would. I suspected the Czechs didn't stand a chance, I was still hoping for victory for them.
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 12:34
Two ties look over already with Australia taking a 2-0 lead over the Czechs and France doing likewise over Japan. All straight sets victories.
Think it was always going to pan out like that, easy wins with few games dropped, I suppose at least they avoided any bagels
Germany/Belgium underway. Darcis up 5-3 in 1st set. Kohl serving.
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 16:46
Germany/Belgium underway. Darcis up 5-3 in 1st set. Kohl serving.
Now serving for the rubber at 5-4 in the decider
themass15
03-02-2017, 16:47
Kohli has made heavy weather of that.
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 16:50
Darcis broken now 5 all in 5th v kohlschreiber
Now serving for the rubber at 5-4 in the decider
Is there a stream for any of the other ties?
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 16:54
6 all tiebreak in the decider, seems a tough end to the rubber
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 16:55
Is there a stream for any of the other ties?
I'm not aware of any but there may be
Croatia /Italy are into a 5th set.
Tight between Serbia/Russia. Russia up a break in 4th set. Serbia 2 sets to 1 up.
Very tight between Germany/Belgium.
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 17:03
Darcis wins in 5, wins sets 4 and 5 in tiebreaks
roytennisfan
03-02-2017, 17:05
You meant Spain, Italy now 1 up against argentina
You meant Spain, Italy now 1 up against argentina
I did indeed mean Spain! :shamed:
All the moaning about the DC format and lack of top players and then you're reminded how good it is with matches like that. Steve "the Shark" Darcis strikes again.
A warning for Team GB about how lower ranked players raise their level for Davis Cup. Also happening with Skugor and Khachanov.
exislander
03-02-2017, 17:19
Is there a stream for any of the other ties?
Some seem to be on bet365 livestream - but I know some people don't like to use that.
Some seem to be on bet365 livestream - but I know some people don't like to use that.
Bet365 is perfect for Davis Cup as you can dot back and forth between half a dozen ties.
PCB misses a first serve, huge cheer, he double-faults, a crescendo of noise. That's Davis Cup. :big grin: Back on serve with Skugor serving at 4-5 in the fifth.
Rosalind
03-02-2017, 17:33
France up 2-0 - whoopee - a dream of a France vs GB quarter-final nearer to home is almost halfway there!
Skugor holds after a marathon game in which he saves 3 MPs, 5-5 in the fifth. DC at its best.
It's tie-break time in Croatia.
I was thinking, unless Andy was playing him in the first round of a slam, when else would I be watching Franko Skugor play and if I was it would be in front of one man and his dog. Another unique feature of the Davis Cup.
Now PCB saves 2 MPs and it's 6-6 at the changeover. This is PCB's first ever live rubber having only once before been in the Spanish team.
Huge controversy, someone called out on MP for Skugor and PCB stopped playing. Pascal Maria decided it was interference from the crowd and the point has to be be replayed. Skugor unsurprisingly is not happy.
It matters not as Skugor (ranked 223) wins the replayed point. Great scenes and he'll probably never play a better match.
The third match to go to a fifth set TB and this time the favourite won with Troicki winning 8-6 and saving a MP. Takes the pressure off Novak. ;)
Early days but Djokovic having a nightmare against Medvedev having just lost the first set 3-6 after being broken FOUR times. He had an MTO on his shoulder after his first service game.
Oh here we go I wondered how long it would be before Sue Barker mentioned FedX!! :rolleyes:
themass15
03-02-2017, 20:24
What's happening with Djoko? He is a set and a break down in the 2nd.
DC holders Argentina (without Delpo) are down 2-0 to Italy at the end of the first day.
Djokovic has dropped serve 5 times now and is down 3-0 in the second set although Medvedev looks dead on his feet and is bending over after each point.
Sallydaisy
03-02-2017, 20:40
Come on Dan!! :GBflag:
enthusiastic but wrong thread ...
;)
themass15
03-02-2017, 21:02
Is Djokovic having a 2nd MTO
Bizarre match. Medvedev retires after losing the third set 6-1 and the first game of the fourth set. He looked gassed after winning the first set, maybe it was the shock.
JAMES4578
03-02-2017, 21:59
At one point looked it was at least a challenge for Djokovic, Medvedev obviously couldn't sustain it and was worn down-take it struggling physically.
It's a shame for it to end with a retirement but if it would have gone on djoko would have taken it. He seemed to have got his injury under control. I guess his injury is why troicki is playing the doubles tomorrow.
We have a the first winner in the first round. Aussies won their doubles 6-3 6-3 6-2 and will face U.S. or Swiss
Other ties Germany v Belgium 1-1
Serbia v Russia 2-0
Spain v Croatia 1-1
Italy v Argentina 2-0
USA v Swiss 2-0
France v Japan 2-0
Update France won their tie after taking the doubles 6- 3 6-4 6-4
angiebabez
04-02-2017, 10:26
Ooh god.... we MUST win.. i want a trip to france lol. ;)
Caley Shaun
04-02-2017, 12:19
Ooh god.... we MUST win.. i want a trip to france lol. ;)
On the clay at Roland Garros ;) ;) ;)?
WimbledonWestie
04-02-2017, 13:18
Some extra practice for the French open if that's where they hold it!
Rosalind
04-02-2017, 13:20
Oh come on GB. I want to go to France too!!!!
Germany/Belgium into a fifth set in the doubles. Very key match as they are currently at 1-1.
Belgium won the doubles, the Zverev's beaten in 5, 6-3 in the fifth. Begium up 2-1. This looks as if it could be anyone's tie.
Serbia also through after winning their third rubber. Djoko will be relieved, less pressure on his injured shoulder. Great performance from troicki this weekend.
Croatia took the doubles in their tie in the 5th set so they are now 2-1 up against Spain
Argentina won their doubles but Italy leads the tie 2-1
Saw that USA are 2 sets up in the doubles against Switzerland.
They took the 3rd too in a second tie break. So after the doubles win they win the tie 3-0 and are through to play the Aussies in the quarters
roytennisfan
05-02-2017, 01:11
Argentina won their doubles but Italy leads the tie 2-1
I was so close 9-7 in 5th set tiebreak
Still to be decided tomorrow (as well as our tie) Italy 2-1 Argentina winner to play winner of
Belgium 2-1, Germany and Croatia 2-1 Spain winner plays Serbia.
themass15
05-02-2017, 09:41
On the clay at Roland Garros ;) ;) ;)?
I think April 7th might be deemed a bit early for clay in Paris but would a magnificent venue.
4th rubber between Germany and Belgium getting underway it's darcis v Zverev. Belgium lead 2-1 after winning the doubles so a win in this rubber would give them the tie. It seems more likely to go to 5 but Zverev has played both days so far and yesterday's doubles was a long one. The winner plays the winner of Italy v Argentina to be decided later.
After 17 mins of match play darcis finally gets Belgium on the board but Zverev leads 4-1 in the first set
Zverev is a set and a break up, serving a lot of aces and fast serves in general, I guess he's looking to get this done quickly
JAMES4578
05-02-2017, 13:02
Whilst bit of a blow the Zverev brothers didn't clinch it in that long doubles, Alex seems determined to put Germany right back in it . Whilst Argentina will also try and fight back may well be Germany v Italy in the quarters. The USA Australia matchup in April should be interesting,due to a deal arranged way back in 1999 for the Americans Australia will now host the 2nd consecutive tie between the two nations. USA/AUS QF (http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/251565.aspx)
It's Germany who need to win to extend the tie James!
Whilst bit of a blow the Zverev brothers didn't clinch it in that long doubles, Alex seems determined to put Germany right back in it . Whilst Argentina will also try and fight back may well be Germany v Italy in the quarters. The USA Australia matchup in April should be interesting,due to a deal arranged way back in 1999 for the Americans Australia will now host the 2nd consecutive tie between the two nations. USA/AUS QF (http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/251565.aspx)
I wondered where that tie would be held, I thought it would really be an advantage to the home nation. With it being in Australia I expect them to come through, though I guess as the USA often miss some of the clay court season maybe their top players would travel to Oz anyway.
Belgium took the second set and they on are serve in the third. I think Zverev's chances lessen if it goes to 5 so I feel like Germany needs this set
JAMES4578
05-02-2017, 14:15
Darcis also takes 3rd 6-4,bit of a batttle for Zverev to get back on track now.
Belgium now lead 2 sets to 1 think it's going to be hard for Zverev to win this match now even if he takes this set. Play has started between Argentina and Italy and between Spain and Croatia.
dewster99
05-02-2017, 14:54
How is Zverev losing to a veteran like Darcis
Saves 2 MPs and hes going crazy. Darcis thought it was over. And now it is
And they say the Davis Cup is dead. :rolleyes: Fantastic entertainment and the Shark is a hero once again. :clap:
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themass15
05-02-2017, 15:17
Didn't see it but a great win for Belgium and all without Goffin
Whilst Darcis is being a Davis Cup hero yet again for Belgium, Goff is sightseeing in Sofia where he's second seed and could play Darcis in the QF.
This is a kit to stir the heart you'd think. Unfortunately it didn't for Fognini & Bolelli as they lost the doubles to Argentina but still better than Union Jack sweat bands. ;)
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JAMES4578
05-02-2017, 15:47
So Belgium through and good win for them, disappointed for Alex Zverev and Germany though!
themass15
05-02-2017, 15:50
Italians look good in their kit. Robert B-A struggling against Franko Skugor.
BBC are streaming Davis Cup matches online (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/tennis/38572432). Currently showing Skugor v RBA.
themass15
05-02-2017, 16:36
Just looked on the red button not being shown there. Come on RB-A
What's wrong with Union Jack sweat bands?
Thought Germany Belgium would go to Belgium when Zverev lost the third set. Missed the end as I popped to the gym before the match. Tie break in the Spanish tie, ba leads it 2 sets to 1
What's wrong with Union Jack sweat bands?
is that an open question ?
Ba won the breaker and took the match so the tie is now 2-2 going into a 5th rubber (Spain vs Croatia)
It's a set each in the 4th rubber between Argentina and Italy
Spain took the 5th rubber against Croatia in 3 sets and are through to the quarter finals. They will play Serbia in Serbia
themass15
05-02-2017, 21:18
Rafa v Djoko perhaps
Rafa v Djoko perhaps
Though I could see djoko playing, Serbia will probably choose hard court if he does. It isn't nadal's favourite anyway but he is defending the title in MC on clay so I can't see him wanting to play on hard so close to it. Spain certainly don't need to rely on him but I guess we will see.
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 15:48
Argentina looking like they are pulling off that recovery to win from 2 down on the first day. Playing a 4th day and Pella is now 2 sets up against Fognini
Has the cause of the interruption been revealed? Was it just weather?
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 16:00
Has the cause of the interruption been revealed? Was it just weather?
No but it probably was as it was in the 4th set of the 4th rubber which they did manage to complete the 4th and 5th sets later before then probably too late to complete the deciding 5th rubber so scheduled it at 2pm UK time today
Edit: yes, 2 lengthy rain breaks and 4th rubber was finished not long before the sunset
Looks like the Italians are about to take the 3rd set after dropping the first two
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 16:42
Looks like the Italians are about to take the 3rd set after dropping the first two
Yes Fabio-o-o has won it 6-3
Yes Fabio-o-o has won it 6-3
And is now a break up in the 4th. Looks like the 5th love rubber could head into a 5th set
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 17:08
And is now a break up in the 4th. Looks like the 5th love rubber could head into a 5th set
3-2 but remember Dan was a break up in the 4th and lost, still time
Yeah and Argentina do have the home advantage. It's still hard to call this tie, but I'm hoping it's Italy who come through as a potential opponent light years from now if all else goes our way
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 17:15
Finally gets to 4-2 after another long game
JAMES4578
06-02-2017, 17:38
Fognini does take 4th 6-4 and am hoping he keeps momentum going!
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 17:49
Fognini does take 4th 6-4 and am hoping he keeps momentum going!
He had his chance in the first game but couldn't take it
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 18:18
Now 5-2 double break to Fabio
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 18:23
Yeah and Argentina do have the home advantage. It's still hard to call this tie, but I'm hoping it's Italy who come through as a potential opponent light years from now if all else goes our way
Looking like you got your wish, a chance we could be playing them but only a small one at present 6-2
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 18:26
Tough on the defending champions that losing all 3 in 5 sets, Berlocq on court 11.5 hours to no avail bit more than popsicle
Looks like I called this one and got my way. Not great for defending champs but when better delpo can be a bit more selfish with his time now which is good too :)
JAMES4578
06-02-2017, 19:18
Quite pleased Italians through, obviously disappointing for Argentina but the way it goes at times.
Update on quarter finals
USA v Australia in Oz
Belgium v italy in Belg
Serbia v Spain in Srb
And of course there is Us v France in France
Update on Belgium Italy tie venue will be spiroudome de Charleroi
First of the venues to be announced
Silverdee
14-02-2017, 14:13
Where did you see that? It's not on the Davis Cup official site yet.
Sallydaisy
14-02-2017, 14:14
It helps to give a 'source' if factual information is posted ...
:thanks:
Where did you see that? It's not on the Davis Cup official site yet.
It came up on Face book Davis cup 25 mins ago.
I don't think the French will announce it until Thursday anyway,
It came up on Face book Davis cup 25 mins ago.
I don't think the French will announce it until Thursday anyway,
Why Thursday?
themass15
14-02-2017, 15:22
That's what I thought. Deadline is next Monday.
Silverdee
14-02-2017, 16:40
A friend who lives in Australia and was at the recent Davis Cup tie there said she would not be able to go to the quarter final against the USA which was to be held in Brisbane.
It helps to give a 'source' if factual information is posted ...
:thanks:
Sorry I saw it on Facebook and couldn't get my phone to share the link while I was out. It was the official David cup Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/DavisCupTennis/posts/1435538003145216:0
Sorry I saw it on Facebook and couldn't get my phone to share the link while I was out. It was the official David cup Facebook page. https://www.facebook.com/DavisCupTennis/posts/1435538003145216:0
That's what I said, Diddle I?
That's what I said, Diddle I?
You did :) but as I didn't say where I saw it in my original post I thought now I was at home I'd try post a link for anyone who wanted it lol
You did :) but as I didn't say where I saw it in my original post I thought now I was at home I'd try post a link for anyone who wanted it lol
I figured it was something along those lines and as Lynne had just told me
a few seconds before I read the post I thought I would gate crash. No sorry
I mean try and help.
:no worries::flowers:
thank you, I just thought I should put the link up anyway. In case anyone wanted it.
Belgium playing their tie against Italy in Charleroi.
Belgium playing their tie against Italy in Charleroi.
Lol this is what the whole conversation was above was about. The link is to the announcement. It was announced on Tuesday :laugh::rolling:
Belgium playing their tie against Italy in Charleroi.
:facepalm:
I'm off for a drink I just can't cope...:wino:
;)
angiebabez
16-02-2017, 18:54
Lol this is what the whole conversation was above was about. The link is to the announcement. It was announced on Tuesday :laugh::rolling:
Stell doesnt read posts or threads....she just says what shes gotta & moves on. :knight: :pingu:
Stell doesnt read posts or threads....she just says what shes gotta & moves on. :knight: :pingu:
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Sallydaisy
16-02-2017, 19:26
Stell doesnt read posts or threads....she just says what shes gotta & moves on. :knight: :pingu:
I KNEW that Penguin would come in handy one day ...
:laugh:
Venue announced for Serbia vs Spain. Hall Alecsander nicolik in Belgrade and will be on indoor hard. From this I think it's likely that djoko is playing and the surfer has been chosen with him in mind, and to dissuade Raffa from playing. I can't see Raffa playing on hard right before the start of the clay but happy to be wrong.
https://www.facebook.com/DavisCupTennis/posts/1443406655691684:0
http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/255517.aspx
So it is only the Aussies yet to announce the venue and surface for their quarter against the states
Silverdee
22-02-2017, 20:33
Belgium are selling tickets next week, a 3 day ticket is only 73 euros!!
According to Australian media, the tie against USA is to be played at Brisbane's Pat Rafter Arena.
Finally DC website confirms the tie will be in the pat rafter arena. It will be held on a hard court thanks to a DC committee ruling. Unusual for the Aussies who've played a lot home ties on grass lately http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/255531.aspx
Silverdee
06-03-2017, 08:48
I see the Belgian tickets are already on Viagogo!
Does anyone else think the French may be put off buying tickets because of the price?
Esp as they are twice the price of Belgium.
Hope so then there's more chance for us.
themass15
06-03-2017, 09:03
Does anyone else think the French may be put off buying tickets because of the price?
Esp as they are twice the price of Belgium.
Hope so then there's more chance for us.
They are more expensive than the Masters (most days) but on a par with RG so hard to tell.
I think they, probably, wished their ticket prices were the same as a three day ticket for the Belgium vs Italy tie. A three day one costs about £63, which is bloody cheap. I've found mine has gone up to £125.46p.
Silverdee
06-03-2017, 10:55
They are more expensive than the Masters (most days) but on a par with RG so hard to tell.
No, I think they'll buy them and then put them on resale sites.
Sorry, meant to reply to Jagmads quote!
themass15
06-03-2017, 11:08
I think you are probably right Silverdee.
I've been trying to think the last time Djokovic played in the quarter finals of Davis Cup. I know he's got his face plastered everywhere in Belgrade.
I think they, probably, wished their ticket prices were the same as a three day ticket for the Belgium vs Italy tie. A three day one costs about £63, which is bloody cheap. I've found mine has gone up to £125.46p.
What with Brexit and tkt prices I might change nationality.
Become a Belgian, We loved Ghent. Not that far away.:confused:
Just have to pretend not to like AM.:knight:
Naaahhh That's not gunna work is it?
;)
This is the change Andy wanted. From a Dutch sports journalist.
Franklin Stoker @StokerSports
ITF board approves (major) format changes Davis Cup:
- Played on 2 days
- Best-of-3
Official announcement in August. (via @VinceMartucci)
What do people think? I can see it's probably sensible, but I think it will lose something.
themass15
09-03-2017, 15:54
Agreed Teresa. More sensible especially to attract top names, but a lot of the drama will go.
Will be interesting to see how they propose to organise it. It will be good to attract more of the top players and I for one would relish the chance to watch them. One thing is for sure..it will be cheaper for us fans!! One day's less ticket and 1-2 nights accom saved!
roytennisfan
09-03-2017, 16:42
At their meeting in Indian Wells, the ITF Board of Directors unanimously endorsed a package of comprehensive reforms for Davis Cup and Fed Cup by BNP Paribas.
These include Davis Cup matches being played over three sets rather than five sets following a review of current match formats.
Further discussions on the implementation of best-of-three-sets matches across either two or three days are continuing with all stakeholders.
All recommendations will be put to the ITF AGM in August 2017, with all changes requiring a formal vote of approval.
Read more at http://www.itftennis.com/news/255871.aspx#CkutMKwqPHT99dt3.99
roytennisfan
09-03-2017, 16:45
What do people think? I can see it's probably sensible, but I think it will lose something.
Definitely loose a lot, Wardy would have lost to Isner in 2 quick sets etc, like downgrading a men's slam
Would have preferred better scheduling and generous ranking points awards to attract the top players - not the current schedule but they would probably respond- there are not enough weeks in the year
Definitely loose a lot, Wardy would have lost to Isner in 2 quick sets etc, like downgrading a men's slam
Would have preferred better scheduling and generous ranking points awards to attract the top players - not the current schedule but they would probably respond- there are not enough weeks in the year
I agree - I think it's a great shame to go to best of three. It's definitely a downgrade in my book and for me will certainly lose an element of its 'special' status and excitement. I am sure there are other ways in which to make it more user friendly both for players and fans - one definitely being to increase the number of points on offer.
Definitely loose a lot, Wardy would have lost to Isner in 2 quick sets etc, like downgrading a men's slam
Would have preferred better scheduling and generous ranking points awards to attract the top players - not the current schedule but they would probably respond- there are not enough weeks in the year
Couldn't agree more.
I know lets take one of the most exciting, best supported and loved tournaments in tennis.
Change it and make a right bolognese of the whole affair.
:doh::facepalm::banghead::grrr:
jackie55
09-03-2017, 18:35
Definitely loose a lot, Wardy would have lost to Isner in 2 quick sets etc, like downgrading a men's slam
Would have preferred better scheduling and generous ranking points awards to attract the top players - not the current schedule but they would probably respond- there are not enough weeks in the year
I agree, bring back racking points, better scheduling perhaps even like the Ryder cup every 2 years
I think every two years, out of Olympic Years, would be better than changing the format so drastically. Glad I have managed to go whilst the current system is in operation. It's going to turn it into the dogs dinner.
Has anyone read the ITF's future plan for the Davis Cup? I've just read about it on the BBC's website. They're planning to have it over two days, instead of three. Also, just three sets instead of five.
exislander
09-03-2017, 18:58
Has anyone read the ITF's future plan for the Davis Cup? I've just read about it on the BBC's website. They're planning to have it over two days, instead of three. Also, just three sets instead of five.
See previous 10 posts on this thread.
lovetennis
09-03-2017, 19:06
Have they said anything about the final venue? At one point they proposed a neutral venue, which I think would dilute the atmosphere tremendously. I'll be sorry to see it go to best of three sets, as others have already said the five sets format created amazing matches, but I can also see why they've gone down that route. Definitely agree ranking points should be included in the deal
angiebabez
09-03-2017, 23:35
The 2 days instead of 3 wouldnt bother me as it will make going a lot cheaper..reduced ticket price & hotel stays but changing to bo3 & neutral final venue is just ludicrous.
Josephine
09-03-2017, 23:41
The changes so far are exactly what Andy suggested in a recent interview, so I presume the top players and their council had been discussing it.
If the effort required is not so extreme, then presumably more of the top players will play. Remains to be seen. But Federer doesn't care about DC any more and I doubt Nadal does. Perhaps Djoko will do it for the team atmosphere? Hard to say.
And Andy would have defeated Del Potro last year, so it is all swings and roundabouts - re the mention of Ward and Isner.
JAMES4578
10-03-2017, 11:44
Changes not ideal from fan's perspective but seems players generally on board with the shorter format and they do have hectic schedules, suppose something needed to be done to attract more top players. Matches wouldn't necessarily follow the same format in best of 3 compared to best of 5,so can't say for sure that some results would be different though would lose some of the drama. Other option was bi annual and personally wasn't too keen on that,think atmosphere would be damaged if final is at neutral venue though.
supergran
12-03-2017, 00:09
The Davis Cup has always been an exciting tournament and best of five sets made it more so. Home crowds getting behind their teams created a fantastic and jingoistic atmosphere. Over three days with the doubles on the second day was ideal and the third day with often its tension and anticipation made for a thrilling finale. Will this new format, if agreed on, change all that? I tend to think so and it's a change I don't relish. As for the fixed venues, how will that affect fans? It may be cheaper and more convenient for fans who work but will one of the venues be in the UK? This proposal puzzles me but then it's not up to me or any of us. We'll just have to wait and see and then grin and bear it. Blast, at my age I'm not a great fan of change.
The Davis Cup has always been an exciting tournament and best of five sets made it more so. Home crowds getting behind their teams created a fantastic and jingoistic atmosphere. Over three days with the doubles on the second day was ideal and the third day with often its tension and anticipation made for a thrilling finale. Will this new format, if agreed on, change all that? I tend to think so and it's a change I don't relish. As for the fixed venues, how will that affect fans? It may be cheaper and more convenient for fans who work but will one of the venues be in the UK? This proposal puzzles me but then it's not up to me or any of us. We'll just have to wait and see and then grin and bear it. Blast, at my age I'm not a great fan of change.
Couldn't agree more. SG
3 setting 2 Daying no ranking points just waters it down and why would the top players want to play
in a 2nd rate 3 set watered down mickey mouse tourney?
If the top players have chosen not to turn up in the past it's been little to do with the format imo.
Scheduling is more of an issue than 5 sets or 3 days.
It's also good for the 2nd and 3rd ranked players playing for their country to play the format the way it is.
Sorry but the changes achieve next to nothing compared to what they sacrifice.
Especially the proposed Final venue change.
Maybe that's just it the players probably said "well now there's no WRP's to play for you might as well
just go the whole hog and make it a joke. At this rate they might as well just play snap for the trophy
then they could have it in the venue of choice and have it all done in a day.
I bet Dwight Davis is turning in his grave.
Would anyone like to add comments at the bottom of this?
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/12/meet-man-whom-davis-cup-named/62419/
Especially to the last bit: “Dwight Davis, I don’t know how he came up with it, but God bless him for what he did,” McEnroe says. “It continues to this day, and let’s hope it can get bigger and better.”
As a huge DC fan I shudder to think what the changes will do to my beloved competition! I love best of 5 tennis and for me it makes DC special like the grand slams. It will be massively watered down if it goes best of 3. But if it's what the players want then who are we to argue? The neutral final venue is the worst idea of the lot IMO. I am REALLY hoping they don't go for that. As others have said, 2 days would make it more affordable for us fans .... but we also miss out on more time together. The neutral final venue is the worst idea of the lot IMO.
Josephine
13-03-2017, 17:29
Couldn't agree more. SG
3 setting 2 Daying no ranking points just waters it down and why would the top players want to play
in a 2nd rate 3 set watered down mickey mouse tourney?
If the top players have chosen not to turn up in the past it's been little to do with the format imo.
Scheduling is more of an issue than 5 sets or 3 days.
It's also good for the 2nd and 3rd ranked players playing for their country to play the format the way it is.
Sorry but the changes achieve next to nothing compared to what they sacrifice.
Especially the proposed Final venue change.
Maybe that's just it the players probably said "well now there's no WRP's to play for you might as well
just go the whole hog and make it a joke. At this rate they might as well just play snap for the trophy
then they could have it in the venue of choice and have it all done in a day.
I bet Dwight Davis is turning in his grave.
Would anyone like to add comments at the bottom of this?
http://www.tennis.com/pro-game/2016/12/meet-man-whom-davis-cup-named/62419/
Especially to the last bit: “Dwight Davis, I don’t know how he came up with it, but God bless him for what he did,” McEnroe says. “It continues to this day, and let’s hope it can get bigger and better.”
Well as Andy precisely said he wanted 3 set matches over 2 days (though not a neutral venue) it's him (amongst others) you are denigrating.
As a huge DC fan I shudder to think what the chafes will do to my beloved competition! I love best of 5 tennis and for me it makes DC special like the grand slams. It will be massively watered down if it goes best of 3. But if it's what the players want then who are we to argue? The neutral final venue is the worst idea of the lot IMO. I am REALLY hoping they don't go for that. As others have said, 2 days would make it more affordable for us fans .... but we also miss out on more time together. The neutral final venue is the worst idea of the lot IMO.:laugh:
Well as Andy precisely said he wanted 3 set matches over 2 days (though not a neutral venue) it's him (amongst others) you are denigrating.
Maybe he only wanted or agreed that being the way to go because: (as I said in the original quote)
A/ they don't seem to be able to schedule it better. (Even though it could have been done a lot better)
B/ They took away the ranking points. (So if they're going to devalue it then may as well reduce the time)
And that's Denigrating Davis Cup imo. Not making it bigger.
I don't think any of us are denigrating Andy or others.
Although I still stand by my statement "I bet Dwight Davis is turning in his grave."
Tell me you wouldn't be if you was him?
:getcoat:
:laugh: Oops .... flippin predictive text! ;) :facepalm: Have edited now.
http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/256212.aspx Davis cup default for security concerns
Considering Belgium announced their venue, way ahead of everyone else, I would have thought they would have the same for their team.
Aussie team - kyrgios, Thompson, Groth and peers against the US
Belgian team - goffin, Darcis, bemelmans, de loore against Italy
Spanish team is a bit of a surprise carreno busta, Ramos vinolas, granollers and mark Lopez against Serbia
French team announced and listed in the other thread. According to Davis cup twitter in response to my pestering those yet to announce should be known by 3pm BST
roytennisfan
28-03-2017, 13:31
Spanish team is a bit of a surprise carreno busta, Ramos vinolas, granollers and mark Lopez against Serbia
Probably strong enough against Serbs without Nole (assuming he will not be there)
No surprises in the Italian team fognini, Lorenzi, seppi and bolelli to play against belgium
Serbian team djoko, troicki, lajovic, zimmy against Spain looks like they could take it with that team!
roytennisfan
28-03-2017, 14:09
Serbian team djoko, troicki, lajovic, zimmy against Spain looks like they could take it with that team!
Definitely stronger than we expected, Nole not as "injured" as he made out.......not for the first time lol
It is an injury he has had an played on since September last year so maybe it was just inflamed. All he said about it was that it was the elbow injury from last year and that he was having scans. Perhaps his scans revealed only inflation and no tear. I expected him to play as he has talked about the confidence and love of the game he has got from it before. I don't think he will be anywhere near top form but might not need to be.
USA team (no surprises) jack sock, John isner, sam querrey, and Johnson to face the Aussie. Hoping for a win for the USA but it will be a tough one.
With Team USA all being proud Trumpeteers, it would be the perfect opportunity for Nick to wear this again. :big grin:
http://i64.tinypic.com/cklzb.png
angiebabez
28-03-2017, 15:54
Definitely stronger than we expected, Nole not as "injured" as he made out.......not for the first time lol
We want them to win anyway...so we can have a home tie ;)
That's right ange. We want a win for Serbia and a win for Belgium and a win for the states. Ideally Belgium will knock out the states in the semis but should that not happen and the states makes it to the final they are nearer than OZ but for now one thing at a time lol :)
Tippy put on Facebook today that he wouldn't be playing in Davis cup due to a hamstring tear. But odd as he wasn't named in the first place. He has been injured on and off so long the poor guy.
Nick said his main focus right now is the DC just in case I will be screaming for USA but it will be a great tie http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/256868.aspx?utm_source=m.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral
Nick said his main focus right now is the DC just in case I will be screaming for USA but it will be a great tie http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/256868.aspx?utm_source=m.facebook.com&utm_medium=referral
Well that's torn it then.:help::taz:
Are you sure you can't scream for the Aussies so they will loose.;):skippy::no worries:
:lol:
With Team USA all being proud Trumpeteers, it would be the perfect opportunity for Nick to wear this again. :big grin:
http://i64.tinypic.com/cklzb.png
Would that be any better/worse than us wearing "Don't mention the war" T shirts when we played Argentina.?
Hmmmm.......
greatunclebulgaria
05-04-2017, 12:23
Fabio Fognini out of the Italian team https://twitter.com/DavisCup/status/849572003313061888
He is replaced by alessandro Gianetti. Hopefully this means the Belgians will come through. I like a win for them and goff :)
According to the DC twitter account you will be able to pay to watch septembers clashes online.
Jordan Thompson plays Jack Sock first and then it'll be Nick Kyrgios against John Isner. Groth and Peers against Johnson and Querrey in the doubles.
Silverdee
07-04-2017, 06:09
Australia 1 up - Thompson beat Sock.
roytennisfan
07-04-2017, 06:18
Australia 1 up - Thompson beat Sock.
Bit of a shock that, he won the important tiebreak in the third and then the fourth set. Nick and Isner 4-4 could well be a few tiebreaks there
roytennisfan
07-04-2017, 08:16
Was wrong nick broke in final game 7-5
roytennisfan
07-04-2017, 16:41
Bit of a shock that, he won the important tiebreak in the third and then the fourth set. Nick and Isner 4-4 could well be a few tiebreaks there
Yep 2 tb 7-5 7-6 7-6
Updates
With Darcis in 4 sets and goffin in 3 Belgium lead Italian 2-0
After being 2-0 at the end of day 1 the USA came back to win the doubles but Australia lead 2-1
After straight forward wins for troicki and Djokovic, Serbia lead Spain 2-0
JAMES4578
08-04-2017, 19:00
From this article (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/apr/06/davis-cup-jamie-murray-yannick-noah-format-changes) it seems the neutral venue for Davis Cup finals won't happen immediately anyway due to lack of support, singles still set to be reduced to best of 3 but best of 5 for the doubles likely to be be retained. Proposals still to be finalised in August,however could at least be some positive news.
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 13:19
Nick wins in straight sets to take Australia through which reduces the chance of us getting a trip to Australia in r1 but conversely increases our chances of a trip to usa
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 13:26
The Spanish loss means a trip to Spain definitely one of our 8 options
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 13:28
Goffin wins first set against lorenzi, if Goff wins Italy at home another option
Edit:should comment they could still be seeded if a couple of higher ranked r1 losers, of which there are 4, get beaten in the playoffs
Caley Shaun
09-04-2017, 19:43
Goffin wins first set against lorenzi, if Goff wins Italy at home another option
Edit:should comment they could still be seeded if a couple of higher ranked r1 losers, of which there are 4, get beaten in the playoffs
Are we still going to be seeded :) :)?
JAMES4578
09-04-2017, 19:50
Goffin easily beat Lorenzi in straights and Italians only live point in hard fought doubles,though Giannessi won dead rubber. So Belgium v Australia as Nick won both matches in straights and Thompson upset Sock,Groth/Peers couldn't get the win on Saturday though. Of Course France play Serbia at home,Spain only winning the final dead rubber.
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 21:40
Are we still going to be seeded :) :)?
Of course, GB still likely to make the top4 seeds based on 4 years results qf w sf qf, currently second to Argentina
roytennisfan
09-04-2017, 21:44
Definite seeds GB France Belgium
Argentina and Croatia definite if they win playoffs
Also likely Australia Serbia especially if they win SF
roytennisfan
10-04-2017, 06:36
Semi finals
France home to Serbia
Belgium v Australia by lots to decide home advantage
DC site says "Belgium to host Australia".
roytennisfan
10-04-2017, 19:46
The eight seeded nations in the World Group play-offs are:
Argentina (1)
Croatia (2)
Switzerland (3)
Czech Republic (4)
Germany (5)
Japan (6)
Russia (7)
Canada (8)
Each of the seeds will be drawn against one of the following unseeded nations:
Belarus
Brazil
Colombia
Hungary
India
Kazakhstan
Netherlands
Portugal
roytennisfan
10-04-2017, 19:57
If all 8 seeds win, our potential R1 Feb 18 opponents could be (*points will drop after September and November but may not change these options)
Czech (H)
Italy(H)
USA(A)
Spain(A)
Germany(H)
Japan(A)
Russia(A)
Canada(H)
So currently 4 home options and trips to USA, Spain, Japan or Russia
If any of the higher ranked teams loose in the playoffs (Argentina Croatia or Switzerland), then Czech will become 2018 Seeds and replaced by the promoted team as an option
Caley Shaun
10-04-2017, 22:04
If all 8 seeds win, our potential R1 Feb 18 opponents could be (*points will drop after September and November but may not change these options)
Czech (H)
Italy(H)
USA(A)
Spain(A)
Germany(H)
Japan(A)
Russia(A)
Canada(H)
So currently 4 home options and trips to USA, Spain, Japan or Russia
If any of the higher ranked teams loose in the playoffs (Argentina Croatia or Switzerland), then Czech will become 2018 Seeds and replaced by the promoted team as an option
Russia away or Germany at home for me but I hope Portugal/Belarus go up as they'd be new opponents for us to possibly play.
Spain away a definite one to avoid as would Switzerland.
The draw has been made
Hungary v Russia
Canada v India
Japan v Brazil
Portugal v Germany
Netherlands v Czech Republic
Switzerland v Belarus
Columbia v Croatia
Kazakhstan v Argentina
roytennisfan
11-04-2017, 11:52
Yes potential seeds (and home tie chances) at Risk.....
Croatia in Columbia if Columbia win then Czech become seeded and Columbia is lots
Czech in Netherlands who would be away (and losses for Croatia & Czechs would mean Italy would be seeded)
If Croatia and Czechs lost, we could loose the options on 2 out of our 4 home chances
Germany in Portugal who would be away instead
Switzerland v Belarus, depends who plays but home must help the Swiss, if they loose another team becomes seeded probably in this order Czech, Italy, USA
Kazakhstan v Argentina, seems an obvious Argentina win but Kazakhs seem to outperform in DC and came close to winning in Serbia (inc Nole) and winning in Australia in 2015, so could be a close one as well as a long journey for Argentina
Hopefully drawing home by lots should mean Canada get an easy win so they will be a definite home option
Hungary like Russia would be away if they beat them
Japan (Away) play Brazil, not sure about Brazil, lots?
edit: checking Portugal definitely none since 2001 Birmingham
roytennisfan
11-04-2017, 16:20
Russia away or Germany at home for me but I hope Portugal/Belarus go up as they'd be new opponents for us to possibly play.
Spain away a definite one to avoid as would Switzerland.
We have played Portugal a few times but not for a number of years, we had a terrible loss to them away about 20+ years ago but did beat them easily in 2001, agree we haven't met Belarus
themass15
11-04-2017, 16:33
I was at the 2001 tie at the NIA in Birmingham. The Sunday was a dead rubber. Everyone was disappointed as Tim and Greg would have been playing.
Why are we not in the draw?
This is just the drawer for the world group play off. We don't need to play it as we won our first match so stayed in the group
I was at the 2001 tie at the NIA in Birmingham. The Sunday was a dead rubber. Everyone was disappointed as Tim and Greg would have been playing.
Yes I was there too! 3 years in to my DC journey :GBflag:
RoastLamb
12-04-2017, 00:14
I hope the Canada-India tie is close to my home (i.e. driveable) coz that would be fun esp. as my kids are half Indian. I expect it to be on the west coast tho'.
At first glance I thought the Kazakhstan tie would be easy for Argentina but on further reading I think it will be tougher than I first thought. Coming on the back of the USO as well.i think that might be the upset.
Of the other ties the only ones I see that could surprise is Germany v Portugal and Brazil v Japan. I guess time will tell ...
roytennisfan
12-04-2017, 17:46
At first glance I thought the Kazakhstan tie would be easy for Argentina but on further reading I think it will be tougher than I first thought. Coming on the back of the USO as well.i think that might be the upset.
Of the other ties the only ones I see that could surprise is Germany v Portugal and Brazil v Japan. I guess time will tell ...
Both of those would dent our chances of being at home. I'm also quite worried for Croatia on clay in Columbia, if those three lost the only definite home tie out of eight would be Canada cos Czech and Italy would become seeded, so let's hope none of them happen.
Edit meant the first 2, not Japan v Brazil
I didn't mind so much about Argentina because I thought if we got past the first round I'd be able to travel to Kazakhstan but probably not Argentina lol. I don't really think Germany will lose to Portugal. The depth in the German team is growing. I think I can manage an away tie just not Australia, Japan, Argentina or Brazil lol. Even the states would be doable but not those
exislander
06-06-2017, 15:35
Not sure if this is the right place but there is a short report on bbc website re DC changes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/40177015
Did anyone hear Petch earlier today, when chatting to Inverdale, give his views about changes to the DC? Very interesting.
He is not convinced that reducing to 3 sets will necessarily work in that it will still not attract the top players. He advocated the one venue and the whole thing played over a week...maybe even every other year. That was the gist of it I think.
exislander
06-06-2017, 17:50
Yes, I heard that conversation too. Problems I would think are where to find a suitable week in the congested schedule and how many sites would have enough facilities to hold such an event. All that before thinking about fans tickets, travel and hotel issues!
suttontennis
07-06-2017, 14:51
Once again, if they find a major city wanting to hold the event, it would then become a corporate event, charging expensive prices and lose a lot of the charm it currently has, playing in different cities around the round, not necessarily the capital or largest city, for example Ghent, Rouen.
I don't like the reduction of DC singles matches to 3 sets but I can just about cope with it and I understand why they've done it. Most of the other proposed changes I completely disagree with. No idea why they got rid of ranking points either, they should offer more! Look at DelPo last year, played some of his best tennis for his country (DC and Olympics) and has nothing to show for it! His ranking would be much higher and nearer where it should be. I think it's ridiculous.
Congrats to Libya on their first ever Davis cup win. https://www.daviscup.com/en/news/265753.aspx
Boris has a new job to be head of Men's Tennis for the German Tennis Federation (DTB).
http://t2online.com/sport/boris-becker-named-head-of-german-men-s-tennis-federation/cid/1.82101
Boris has a new job to be head of Men's Tennis for the German Tennis Federation (DTB).
http://t2online.com/sport/boris-becker-named-head-of-german-men-s-tennis-federation/cid/1.82101
Wonder how kohlscriber feels about this. Borris has always been very vocal about his feelings on KS
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