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Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 22:59
So where will be on the 7th April ...
The ATP focus in March will be Indian Wells and Miami (outdoor hard) through to 2nd April. That leaves 4 days before the Davis Cup w/end starting Friday 7th until Sunday 9th April, which is BEFORE the clay court season starts on 10th April leading up to Roland Garros 28/5 - 11/6. Monte Carlo is w/c Sunday 16th April.
Clay might seem an obvious surface choice but 2 of the 3 last QFs have been Hard Indoor (maybe due to finding suitably sized venues).
The most recent French 'home' Quarter Finals (which require a minimum 6000 seat capacity arena for World Group 1/4 ties) have been played as follows:-
2014 QF v Germany, April 4-6. Indoor Hard. Palais des Sports Jean-Weille,NANCY
2012 QF v USA, April 6-8. Outdoor Clay. Monte Carlo Country Club, 1 week before the ATP 1000 which started on Sun 15th April.
2010 QF v Spain, 9-11 July. Indoor Hard. Clermont-Ferrand.
Monte Carlo could be a possibility again ... there'd only be 6 days to reset the hoardings before the ATP Masters starts but they did just that in 2012. Nancy doesn't appear to be booked between 1st and 11th April ... but CF is full.
Other arenas:
Palais des Sports Gerland, Lyon 6500/8000 capacity = Hard Indoor
Parc de la tete d'or, Lyon, = Clay Outdoor = capacity unknown.
(new venue replacing Nice, 20-27 May JWTsonga runs a tennis summer camp there.)
Montpelier, 7500 capacity - Hard Indoor
Marseille, 5800 capacity - Hard Indoor
Nice, ? 5000 capacity - Clay outdoor.
The French clearly have a lot of options; hope the hotel booking sites can cope!
The French could, of course, play it at Roland Garros ... or anywhere else in France.
I hope it's not Monte Carlo, I could only find 2 hotal options for 6-10 April, cheapest was £1380 and t'other was £5,412 for 4 nights.
:hmm:
WimbledonWestie
05-02-2017, 23:11
Love the inclusion of dinosaurs in the title thread :laugh:
themass15
05-02-2017, 23:18
So where will be on the 7th April ...
The ATP focus in March will be Indian Wells and Miami (outdoor hard) through to 2nd April. That leaves 4 days before the Davis Cup w/end starting Friday 7th until Sunday 9th April, which is BEFORE the clay court season starts on 10th April leading up to Roland Garros 28/5 - 11/6. Monte Carlo is w/c Sunday 16th April.
Clay might seem an obvious surface choice but 2 of the 3 last QFs have been Hard Indoor (maybe due to finding suitably sized venues).
The most recent French 'home' Quarter Finals (which require a minimum 6000 seat capacity arena for World Group 1/4 ties) have been played as follows:-
2014 QF v Germany, April 4-6. Indoor Hard. Palais des Sports Jean-Weille,NANCY
2012 QF v USA, April 6-8. Outdoor Clay. Monte Carlo Country Club, 1 week before the ATP 1000 which started on Sun 15th April.
2010 QF v Spain, 9-11 July. Indoor Hard. Clermont-Ferrand.
Monte Carlo could be a possibility again ... there'd only be 6 days to reset the hoardings before the ATP Masters starts but they did just that in 2012. Nancy doesn't appear to be booked between 1st and 11th April ... but CF is full.
Other arenas:
Palais des Sports Gerland, Lyon 6500/8000 capacity = Hard Indoor
Parc de la tete d'or, Lyon, = Clay Outdoor = capacity unknown.
(new venue replacing Nice, 20-27 May JWTsonga runs a tennis summer camp there.)
Montpelier, 7500 capacity - Hard Indoor
Marseille, 5800 capacity - Hard Indoor
Nice, ? 5000 capacity - Clay outdoor.
The French clearly have a lot of options; hope the hotel booking sites can cope!
The French could, of course, play it at Roland Garros ... or anywhere else in France.
I hope it's not Monte Carlo, I could only find 2 hotal options for 6-10 April, cheapest was £1380 and t'other was £5,412 for 4 nights.
:hmm:
I would go to Italy if it turns out to be in Monte Carlo
WimbledonWestie
05-02-2017, 23:23
Need to do some sums after booking a heap of tennis trips to London and a very expensive summer cruise in USA. Along with some significant family birthdays coming up. Calculator at the ready
Here we go again! Guess we know what will be occupying all our time this week, looking at hotels, planes and trains. Of course it's the week before Easter too so that will make everything busy and expensive. ...
Thanks Sally for offering those starter options for us to look at
I hope it's not Monte Carlo, I could only find 2 hotel options for 6-10 April, cheapest was £1380 and t'other was £5,412 for 4 nights......
:help:
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 23:36
I would go to Italy if it turns out to be in Monte Carlo
That would confuse the Italians; they'll be away in Belgium that weekend (if they beat Argentina).
themass15
05-02-2017, 23:36
That would confuse the Italians; they'll be away in Belgium that weekend (if they beat Argentina).
Tee hee, Monte Carlo not far from Italian border
When we went to Nice we travellled to Monte Carlo a couple days, each time we took the train early and travelled back late as it wasn't at all expensive, didn't take long and was regular. It could be an option if its MC and people are looking to save pennies it's worth looking in to
Looks like everyone is booking Nice and Monte Carlo! The booking.com website hotels are disappearing before my eyes!
I'm surprised they're allowed to hold it in Monte Carlo since it's not in France! ;)
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 00:09
I'm surprised they're allowed to hold it in Monte Carlo since it's not in France! ;)
The Monte Carlo Country Club (home of the ATP 1000) is over the border in France ...
;)
Monte Carlo Country Club (MCCC) is the home of the ATP's Monte Carlo Masters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monte_Carlo_Masters) tournament. It is also the base of the Monte Carlo Tennis Academy.
Despite the club's name, it is not located in Monte Carlo or even in Monaco; it is actually located in the community of Roquebrune-Cap-Martin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roquebrune-Cap-Martin) in the Alpes-Maritimes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpes-Maritimes) department of France, just outside Monaco's northeastern border.
The Monte Carlo Country Club (home of the ATP 1000) is over the border in France ...
;)
Ah, didn't realise that!
Sad to say that despite my Canadian adventure, I won't make France as I have a prior engagement. :crying:
Shame it can't be at the same venue as the 2014 final!
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 03:47
I would go to Italy if it turns out to be in Monte Carlo
Done the journey from Nice to San Remo by train about 3-4 years ago, a number of places to stay and fairly regular trains that pass through
Guerkins2
06-02-2017, 07:56
When we went to Nice we travellled to Monte Carlo a couple days, each time we took the train early and travelled back late as it wasn't at all expensive, didn't take long and was regular. It could be an option if its MC and people are looking to save pennies it's worth looking in to
Thanks JerryD.Which station to the trains to Monte Carlo go from in Nice, please?
themass15
06-02-2017, 08:05
There is a station near the Monte Carlo Country Club but I believe the trains only stop there whilst the Master Event is on to encourage people not to drive.
Guerkins2
06-02-2017, 08:18
There is a station near the Monte Carlo Country Club but I believe the trains only stop there whilst the Master Event is on to encourage people not to drive.
Thanks - So train might not be an option
themass15
06-02-2017, 08:20
It could be they stop the trains there if that is where the tie will be held
It was gare de Nice ville. It's the main one. The station for MC tennis club is cap-Martin roquebrune and it's couple of minutes walk from there. Those trains run when the tournie isn't on. If you check on line you will the next one leaving shortly. It's less frequent than the one to MC in the summer but is still roughly every 30 minutes.
suttontennis
06-02-2017, 09:35
as there are time constraints on Davis Cup I believe they'll go for an indoor arena, they played the final in Lille in 2014. That's also convenient for the British travelling support.
Rosalind
06-02-2017, 12:14
as there are time constraints on Davis Cup I believe they'll go for an indoor arena, they played the final in Lille in 2014. That's also convenient for the British travelling support.
If I were the French, I'd want to make it difficult for the travelling British support! Our support is famously good by now! Where is the most difficult, annoying place for us to get to? ;)
themass15
06-02-2017, 12:20
If I were the French, I'd want to make it difficult for the travelling British support! Our support is famously good by now! Where is the most difficult, annoying place for us to get to? ;)#
Clermont Ferrand or Nancy but I think they both have things already arranged. Paris would be the best as they would probably have it on Lenglen which means 11,000 spectators in total.
If I were the French, I'd want to make it difficult for the travelling British support! Our support is famously good by now! Where is the most difficult, annoying place for us to get to? ;)
Guadeloupe.
I didn't think the MCCC was in France - the apartments where I stay are just over the border so on walking there I pass a sign saying I'm entering Monaco, but I've never seen another sign saying I'm going back into France :confused:
If I were the French, I'd want to make it difficult for the travelling British support! Our support is famously good by now! Where is the most difficult, annoying place for us to get to? ;)
I think the south coast/ MC does that. It is so far that it limits travel options to air, rather than Eurostar, tunnel and ferry. We were thinking with the last minute updates and expensive travel time, driving would give us the most flexibility but we would only do that if it's in the north. Putting it in the south makes a outdoor clay court a more likely option too which they may want for their own players in the tie but also for their chances ahead of the season. Before we considered MC we thought it could be nice there used to be a tournie there at this time of year, I think it might just be on the legends tour now. Wherever it is though, we will find a way :)
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 13:03
The Barmy Army could just organise a boozy bus trip to the South of France ...
:wino:
... let's face it, about 30 or 40 of them made it to Canada AOK so Europe will be a doddle!
:dance:
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 13:07
Ref other possibles - Clermont-Ferrand might be booked but Nancy isn't according the website yesterday.
Guadaloupe might be too small a venue for a Quarter-Final, as might the old ATP site in Nice.
Although Nice would be a good place to stay if it ended up being in Monte Carlo ... regular trains and bus service to MC.
Bear in mind wherever it is has to seat 6000 fans or thereabouts.
29_adjacent
06-02-2017, 13:24
Do we have any idea when the venue will be announced?
suttontennis
06-02-2017, 13:25
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Indoor_arenas_in_France
take your pick. The hardest place to get to would be Pau ?
Do we have any idea when the venue will be announced?
I read that they have two weeks to announce
themass15
06-02-2017, 13:34
In the Davis Cup Rules and Regulations it says the venue has to be confirmed 15 days after the conclusion of the tie
2 weeks to wait then. Has anyone booked any hotels? Seems there are a LOT of options so haven't done anything yet. I'm just praying it won't be cost prohibitive. Just paid for 2 semis at WTF (impulse buy ... should have thought it through) and also need to pay for Wimby accommodation very soon .... aaarrgh!!
2 weeks to wait then. Has anyone booked any hotels? Seems there are a LOT of options so haven't done anything yet. I'm just praying it won't be cost prohibitive. Just paid for 2 semis at WTF (impulse buy ... should have thought it through) and also need to pay for Wimby accommodation very soon .... aaarrgh!!
If I could narrow it down I would maybe book free cancellation places but it could be anywhere. Considering booking a free cancellation place in nice but not sure about anywhere else. It is booking up so my guess is other people are doing the same. Just guess work at this point though
29_adjacent
06-02-2017, 13:54
2 weeks to wait then. Has anyone booked any hotels? Seems there are a LOT of options so haven't done anything yet. I'm just praying it won't be cost prohibitive. Just paid for 2 semis at WTF (impulse buy ... should have thought it through) and also need to pay for Wimby accommodation very soon .... aaarrgh!!
I've been looking at a few apartment type places which could be a way to save money by sharing with 2 or 3 other people (which I'm hoping to do, don't think I can afford room by myself!). Haven't booked anything yet though because all the ones I've seen so far require a deposit or aren't refundable.
angiebabez
06-02-2017, 14:04
I've been looking at a few apartment type places which could be a way to save money by sharing with 2 or 3 other people (which I'm hoping to do, don't think I can afford room by myself!). Haven't booked anything yet though because all the ones I've seen so far require a deposit or aren't refundable.
Thats a good option aimee. Folk should share apartments & save money. Cant see me making it unfortunately unless its somewhere like paris and can get a cheap flight over...even then i would need to eat beans all weekend & sleep rough.
I've been looking at a few apartment type places which could be a way to save money by sharing with 2 or 3 other people (which I'm hoping to do, don't think I can afford room by myself!). Haven't booked anything yet though because all the ones I've seen so far require a deposit or aren't refundable.
Would be up for that Aimee.
Thats a good option aimee. Folk should share apartments & save money. Cant see me making it unfortunately unless its somewhere like paris and can get a cheap flight over...even then i would need to eat beans all weekend & sleep rough.
We could get an apartment for 4 .... understand though, it's not cheap is it this tennis fanatic malarkey?! Gonna struggle too but gotta make it happen somehow. I hated missing the last one!
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 16:31
Hawkeye got a cheap airbnb one on his own in Ottawa for a week and saved stacks
the F1 chain are a cheap option in france, just did a quick search and 3 bed room fri, sat, sun in nice that week is only 87 quid for the room
angiebabez
06-02-2017, 16:53
Would be up for that Aimee.
We could get an apartment for 4 .... understand though, it's not cheap is it this tennis fanatic malarkey?! Gonna struggle too but gotta make it happen somehow. I hated missing the last one!
Depends how much the tixs are as well caro. But a cheap flight & very very cheap room would help a lot x
Maybe the army will have spare bunks in their dorm lol or on their minibus. Free cancellation places are always more expensive but I'm going book some for now and see how it goes. Ibis is very popular in France (part of the Accor group). Their cheap range is the ibis budget, you'll find them in all cities and usually get better prices and free cancellation on their website. They are good if you are mainly bothered about cost. The rooms are nice and bright enough, biggest problem is the ensuite bathrooms are very caravanesque with the lovely plastic smell from the plastic walls. KevD wasn't bothered by this at all, i would say it's only good for a short trip (1 week was too much) and my guess would be after we stayed in one a few years ago, that yellowlivi would say never again.
Depends how much the tixs are as well caro. But a cheap flight & very very cheap room would help a lot x
Easyjet from Edinburgh to Nice return is currently £106 flying out on the Thursday evening and back on the Monday night.
themass15
06-02-2017, 17:19
Easyjet from Edinburgh to Nice return is currently £106 flying out on the Thursday evening and back on the Monday night.
I am lucky flights from London a lot cheaper at present.
angiebabez
06-02-2017, 17:36
Easyjet from Edinburgh to Nice return is currently £106 flying out on the Thursday evening and back on the Monday night.
Doable. But once again by the time we find out venue they will probably sky rocket. Anyone hazard a guess at how much tixs are likely to be (roughly)
themass15
06-02-2017, 17:39
Doable. But once again by the time we find out venue they will probably sky rocket. Anyone hazard a guess at how much tixs are likely to be (roughly)
I could be wrong but I would hazard a guess at roughly 85 for the Friday/Sunday and 75 for the Saturday but exchange rate is dreadful now.
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 18:03
Looks like everyone is booking Nice and Monte Carlo! The booking.com website hotels are disappearing before my eyes!
You're not kidding! Perhaps the BATS, Murraynators and Barmy Army are sneaking in a few cancellable bookings 'just in case'? IF the tie is there it'll be very pricey if places aren't 'reserved'. I was thinking that if it is at Monte Carlo that I'd rather stay in Nice and travel in each day; Monte is probably super duper but Nice would be lively1
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 18:29
French and Italian are my two favourite cuisines so having that choice would be nice
You're not kidding! Perhaps the BATS, Murraynators and Barmy Army are sneaking in a few cancellable bookings 'just in case'? IF the tie is there it'll be very pricey if places aren't 'reserved'. I was thinking that if it is at Monte Carlo that I'd rather stay in Nice and travel in each day; Monte is probably super duper but Nice would be lively1
Nice is great. We day tripped all over from there a few years ago, there are cheaper places to eat as well, if you move further form the prom. We found a place where we got a good breakfast for less than €5. The trains are cheap too. We didn't use the tram. I think we would stay in nice and travel. Lyon is also booking up quick.
as there are time constraints on Davis Cup I believe they'll go for an indoor arena, they played the final in Lille in 2014. That's also convenient for the British travelling support.
It's a huge arena but booked that weekend.
I usually wait for the venue to be announced and then see if I can afford it.
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 19:09
Thoughts from the twitterverse:
Mike Dickson @Mike_Dickson_DM 1h (https://twitter.com/Mike_Dickson_DM/status/828659570079830017) Venue for GB Davis Cup quarter final away to France must be named by Feb 20.
Could be anywhere from Monte Carlo to Guadeloupe.,
Steven@GBtennis 1h1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/GBtennis/status/828661963005767680) @Mike_Dickson_DM (https://twitter.com/Mike_Dickson_DM) Let's hope they don't play it in Nouméa to try to keep the GB fans away!
Mike DicksonVerified account @Mike_Dickson_DM 1h1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/Mike_Dickson_DM/status/828663546418515968) @GBtennis (https://twitter.com/GBtennis) As @sophiedorgan (https://twitter.com/sophiedorgan) points out, could even be Tahiti or New Caledonia.
Good way of discouraging AM.
:hmm:
... goes off to see what booking.com can do in Noumea, New Caledonia and Tahiti, just in case.
:laugh:
Thoughts from the twitterverse:
:hmm:
... goes off to see what booking.com can do in Noumea, New Caledonia and Tahiti, just in case.
:laugh:
:rolling::rolling:
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 19:18
Thoughts from the twitterverse:
... goes off to see what booking.com can do in Noumea, New Caledonia and Tahiti, just in case.
:laugh:
s'expensive ...
:shades::surfing::help:
themass15
06-02-2017, 19:19
If it is in Lyon I think it will be in an indoor arena because they have huge rainfall in April.
Lille or Paris would be ideal for me (Eurostar destinations) but we'll see where they put it - could RG be an option? does Chatrier have a roof yet?
Will be very busy at work so will have to fly out Friday morning and fly back Sunday night. Will wait to hear the venue before booking anything.
Am hoping to make it to France for this tie.
Anyone else travelling from Scotland?
At the moment, I'm "on my own". Don't want to intrude on other people, but would like to stay near other Forum members, so that we could meet up from time to time.
Please keep me posted ....
Thanks. :-)
Am hoping to make it to France for this tie.
Anyone else travelling from Scotland?
At the moment, I'm "on my own". Don't want to intrude on other people, but would like to stay near other Forum members, so that we could meet up from time to time.
Please keep me posted ....
Thanks. :-)
I'm hoping to go. Flights are going up already. I've done a scatter gun approach on booking.com for hotels, all free cancellation and plan to keep looking. I'd be happy to share an apartment with anyone, already said to Glenys I'd share but if there's 3 or 4 of us it would keep costs down.
Ooo even better idea!
Currently considering a coach to Paris leaving late Friday night (arriving Paris 6am) and returning Monday pm - all hangs on where the heck the tie is
greatunclebulgaria
06-02-2017, 21:37
The Monte Carlo Country Club (home of the ATP 1000) is over the border in France ...
;)
yes Dave and I visited Monte Carlo for the first time a couple of years ago and I got him to drive past the country club LOL was very surprised when we finally found it:shrug::shrug::rolling::rolling:
Am hoping to make it to France for this tie.
Anyone else travelling from Scotland?
At the moment, I'm "on my own". Don't want to intrude on other people, but would like to stay near other Forum members, so that we could meet up from time to time.
Please keep me posted ....
Thanks. :-)
I will be going on my own as well. Probably going by Eurostar from London. Getting anywhere from rural Norfolk is a tad challenging....!!!
WimbledonWestie
06-02-2017, 21:55
Am hoping to make it to France for this tie.
Anyone else travelling from Scotland?
At the moment, I'm "on my own". Don't want to intrude on other people, but would like to stay near other Forum members, so that we could meet up from time to time.
Please keep me posted ....
Thanks. :-)
I'd love to. Think the cost of all my other trips - -tennis and otherwise - will probably price me out of a foreign tie this year (will travel to any UK ties we manage) but not totally ruling it out yet! Will keep u posted
WimbledonWestie
06-02-2017, 21:57
Ooo even better idea!
Currently considering a coach to Paris leaving late Friday night (arriving Paris 6am) and returning Monday pm - all hangs on where the heck the tie is
Are u one of these lucky people who can sleep on a bus? If I did that I'd not be worth a button the whole weekend
I'm hoping to go. Flights are going up already. I've done a scatter gun approach on booking.com for hotels, all free cancellation and plan to keep looking. I'd be happy to share an apartment with anyone, already said to Glenys I'd share but if there's 3 or 4 of us it would keep costs down.
I'm also thinking of going and would be happy to share an apartment. I've had a look at flights too but haven't checked out any hotels yet.
I'm also thinking of going and would be happy to share an apartment. I've had a look at flights too but haven't checked out any hotels yet.
Lets hope you book em in the same place! ;)
Guerkins2
06-02-2017, 23:16
Am hoping to make it to France for this tie.
Anyone else travelling from Scotland?
At the moment, I'm "on my own". Don't want to intrude on other people, but would like to stay near other Forum members, so that we could meet up from time to time.
Please keep me posted ....
Thanks. :-)
Yes I would also like to stay near other forum members 😀
As SG and I have posted on the Ottawa thread, it is much better if we all stay in one place. There is a huge apartment building in Beausoleil, just outside Monaco, where I usually stay. It is called Jardins d'Elisa but I don't think you can make cancellable bookings.
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 23:31
As SG and I have posted on the Ottawa thread, it is much better if we all stay in one place. There is a huge apartment building in Beausoleil, just outside Monaco, where I usually stay. It is called Jardins d'Elisa but I don't think you can make cancellable bookings.
And we don't know if we'll be in Monte Carlo ...
exislander
07-02-2017, 00:27
Am hoping to make it to France for this tie.
Anyone else travelling from Scotland?
At the moment, I'm "on my own". Don't want to intrude on other people, but would like to stay near other Forum members, so that we could meet up from time to time.
Please keep me posted ....
Thanks. :-)
Hoping to go and would be travelling from Scotland. Would also hope to be near other forum members but until the venue is announced I don't feel we can arrange travel or hotel. I would expect to travel out Thurs and back Monday unless it is somewhere really good and a longer stay would be worthwhile.
With the inca trail a little over 4 weeks after the tie, time off for it and time preparing for it, still getting my knee back on form, I think regardless of where it is we'll have to do arrive Thursday leave Monday. If possible Thursday night arrival and Monday morning departure. It will be busy but worth it. We are hiking ans camping the Cairngorms the week after which makes it even more busy. I look forward to another forum meal, though even if Angie comes I guess cardboard Andy would have to stay at home :) lol
angiebabez
07-02-2017, 09:07
Where there is a will there is a way jerry ;)
Where there is a will there is a way jerry ;)
Maybe you cold fold him into your case :)
Maybe you cold fold him into your case :)
Hnmm... Andy among your smalls now there's an image.;)
roytennisfan
07-02-2017, 09:44
Where there is a will there is a way jerry ;)
Don't expect me to carry him around bars in the early hours again if he does make the journey
Don't expect me to carry him around bars in the early hours again if he does make the journey
Spoilsport! ;)
millypops
07-02-2017, 10:15
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@GBtennis As @sophiedorgan points out, could even be Tahiti or New Caledonia.Good way of discouraging AM.
Andy has to be in Vienna on 10/04 ????
Andy has to be in Vienna on 10/04 ????
Zurich.
I did wonder about the scheduling when that exhibition match was announced as GB could have been away to Japan in DC the day before.
themass15
07-02-2017, 10:43
Zurich is a doddle from mainland France but will it take place there?
RosieBear
07-02-2017, 10:56
Holding the France v Canada 2015 tie in Guadeloupe made it more equidistant for French and Canadian fans, but there is obviously no such need when it comes to GB v France. Imagine if instead of Queen's the LTA decided the GB/France QF should be in the British Virgin Islands just for the sake of it - you'd just have two sets of outraged fans. As a resident of Kent, believe me I do not underestimate how awkward French authorities can be, but I cannot see the tie being anywhere but mainland France.
Spoilsport! ;)
They didn't let him in the other bar we went to Caro, the bouncer took him hostage on the way in. If that's how they welcome Andy in Glasgow I don't think he'd be welcomed with warmth in France lol
Holding the France v Canada 2015 tie in Guadeloupe made it more equidistant for French and Canadian fans, but there is obviously no such need when it comes to GB v France. Imagine if instead of Queen's the LTA decided the GB/France QF should be in the British Virgin Islands just for the sake of it - you'd just have two sets of outraged fans. As a resident of Kent, believe me I do not underestimate how awkward French authorities can be, but I cannot see the tie being anywhere but mainland France.
Completely agree, also with MC right afterward and the start of the Euro clay, their own players would want the best shot a good run in their home slam and so wouldn't want to miss the masters. It could put Andy off to have it far away but also jo willy and monfils and Simon etc etc. Can't see their players going for that.
millypops
07-02-2017, 11:12
Holding the France v Canada 2015 tie in Guadeloupe made it more equidistant for French and Canadian fans, but there is obviously no such need when it comes to GB v France. Imagine if instead of Queen's the LTA decided the GB/France QF should be in the British Virgin Islands just for the sake of it - you'd just have two sets of outraged fans. As a resident of Kent, believe me I do not underestimate how awkward French authorities can be, but I cannot see the tie being anywhere but mainland France.
Oh I do hope you are right RB it would be a nightmare for fans to get to Guadalope or any where else for that matter surely they will choose mainland France
They didn't let him in the other bar we went to Caro, the bouncer took him hostage on the way in. If that's how they welcome Andy in Glasgow I don't think he'd be welcomed with warmth in France lol
Are you sure that the bouncer didn't just want to keep him.;)
I would also like to see it being held somewhere in France.
http://www.fft.fr/coupe-davis-2017-japon-france-1er-tour/articles/coupe-davis-un-quart-de-finale-domicile-contre-la-gr
Interesting snippet from captain Noah - "we can go to a provincial town to promote our sport."
Probably shouldn't read too much into it but suggests Paris is unlikely :baguette:
Google translation:-
A meeting that will take place in France from the 7th to the 9th of April, to the delight of the French team, starting with his captain: "It's a pleasure to play in France ... After the Czech Republic, Croatia, Japan ... "It's an opportunity for us to try to win and enjoy the fact that we can go to a provincial town to promote our sport."
An enthusiasm shared by Nicolas Mahut who hopes to be part of the group and have the opportunity to take revenge on the British two years after a tough defeat in the quarterfinals on the grasslands of the Queens in London. "I've played five games, five on the outside so if we're selected it will be a great moment to be able to share it with our loved ones, our fans, and then two years after Queens, I have not forgotten this encounter which remains one of the worst memories of my career, but after this defeat there was progress and rebound, and the group is eager to play in France and receive them to try Qualify for the semi-finals. "
On what surface? This remains to be determined. And according to the words of Yannick Noah in Tokyo, his choice is far from stopped. "There are so many surfaces, the first tournament I won was in Manila, I played on shells, and we do what we want, indoor grass, plastic herbs, A rubber ground, rubber in the ground ... (laughs) No, the idea is to choose a surface that suits the team of France and if on top of that, it annoys them, so much the better! Is the advantage of playing at home, we have the choice of the surface. But I assure you that we will not play on shells crushed because it no longer exists! "
themass15
07-02-2017, 13:04
Could be anywhere then but at least we know they are planning to hold it in France.
themass15
07-02-2017, 13:05
http://www.fft.fr/coupe-davis-2017-japon-france-1er-tour/articles/coupe-davis-un-quart-de-finale-domicile-contre-la-gr
Interesting snippet from captain Noah - "we can go to a provincial town to promote our sport."
Probably shouldn't read too much into it but suggests Paris is unlikely :baguette:
Google translation:-
A meeting that will take place in France from the 7th to the 9th of April, to the delight of the French team, starting with his captain: "It's a pleasure to play in France ... After the Czech Republic, Croatia, Japan ... "It's an opportunity for us to try to win and enjoy the fact that we can go to a provincial town to promote our sport."
An enthusiasm shared by Nicolas Mahut who hopes to be part of the group and have the opportunity to take revenge on the British two years after a tough defeat in the quarterfinals on the grasslands of the Queens in London. "I've played five games, five on the outside so if we're selected it will be a great moment to be able to share it with our loved ones, our fans, and then two years after Queens, I have not forgotten this encounter which remains one of the worst memories of my career, but after this defeat there was progress and rebound, and the group is eager to play in France and receive them to try Qualify for the semi-finals. "
On what surface? This remains to be determined. And according to the words of Yannick Noah in Tokyo, his choice is far from stopped. "There are so many surfaces, the first tournament I won was in Manila, I played on shells, and we do what we want, indoor grass, plastic herbs, A rubber ground, rubber in the ground ... (laughs) No, the idea is to choose a surface that suits the team of France and if on top of that, it annoys them, so much the better! Is the advantage of playing at home, we have the choice of the surface. But I assure you that we will not play on shells crushed because it no longer exists! "
Provincial would suggest it will not be on the Coast.
JimmyG beat me to it. I've just been reading the FFT site for clues as well - I was also interested about the quote saying its an opportunity to go to a provincial town...... It does suggest they are not thinking Monte Carlo or Paris ......
Yannick Noah and his comments about the playing surface did make me laugh. I had to Google translate "caoutchouc" (rubber) but I understood the rest.
First step for a possible trip for me is accomplished - I've had my leave request approved :)
'Provincial' may just be the translation and could just mean not Parie. I would love to visit MC but the cost of that worries me greatly so would prefer somewhere else on balance ....
The actual quote in French is
C’est une opportunité pour nous d’essayer de gagner et de profiter du fait qu’on peut aller dans une ville de province pour promouvoir notre sport.
So, unless my French is really bad it is "a provincial town". If we used that term in the UK I would not expect it to be in London or other big city like Manchester or Birmingham (although I accept that people who live within the M25 consider anything outside that to be the provinces!). So probably not Paris, but could be anywhere else. Depends what they think of as provincial, and of course DC rules I think state it must be a major town of the country with an international airport close by. All in all, not much help!
I am just clutching at straws trying to determine travel. Because from the deep province north of Hadrian's wall, anything not Paris or Nice might be a challenge - there are Easyjet and Ryanair flights from Edinburgh and Glasgow to various places in France but they are not daily, sometimes only once a week, so either I'll have to schlepp to London first or else fly to Paris and then train.
I do love a travel challenge though!
'Provincial' may just be the translation and could just mean not Parie. I would love to visit MC but the cost of that worries me greatly so would prefer somewhere else on balance ....
That's how I feel. I hope to go and support the team, regardless of whether AM plays this one, but Monte Carlo might be pushing it cost wise for me. Mind you given the French economy it would probably be pushing it for a lot of French fans as well.
I'll be in Portugal AGAIN :grrr: so unless it's in Paris it's no good for me. There's a flight Faro/Paris return for 120 euros which is not bad.
exislander
07-02-2017, 14:21
The actual quote in French is
C’est une opportunité pour nous d’essayer de gagner et de profiter du fait qu’on peut aller dans une ville de province pour promouvoir notre sport.
So, unless my French is really bad it is "a provincial town". If we used that term in the UK I would not expect it to be in London or other big city like Manchester or Birmingham (although I accept that people who live within the M25 consider anything outside that to be the provinces!). So probably not Paris, but could be anywhere else. Depends what they think of as provincial, and of course DC rules I think state it must be a major town of the country with an international airport close by. All in all, not much help!
I am just clutching at straws trying to determine travel. Because from the deep province north of Hadrian's wall, anything not Paris or Nice might be a challenge - there are Easyjet and Ryanair flights from Edinburgh and Glasgow to various places in France but they are not daily, sometimes only once a week, so either I'll have to schlepp to London first or else fly to Paris and then train.
I do love a travel challenge though!
I am the same - though train might be possible depending on the location. I am now hoping the announcement is not made before 16th Feb as I am away from now till then although hope to have internet access to keep up with things. By the way Jan, Southampton could be an alternative to London for onward flights to France?
themass15
07-02-2017, 14:36
I'll be in Portugal AGAIN :grrr: so unless it's in Paris it's no good for me. There's a flight Faro/Paris return for 120 euros which is not bad.
There are good train connections from Paris to most main French cities
Sallydaisy
07-02-2017, 16:01
I think the French understand, in a nation where tennis is as popular as other sports, that moving ties around continues to generate interest in youngsters and make their tennis 'stars' accessible.
These are the venues chosen for HOME TIES over the last few years:-
Year
Round
Month
Surface
City/Town
Area
Region
2016
1
Mar
Clay Out
Guadeloupe
Caribbean
Overseas
2014
1
Feb
Clay In
La Roche sur Yon
W Atlantic Coast
Pays de la Loire
QF
Apr
Hard In
Nancy
NE
Lorraine
SF
Sep
Clay Out
Roland Garros
Paris
Ile de France
F
Nov
Clay In
Lille
NW
Nord Pas De Calais
2013
1
Feb
Hard In
Rouen
NW
Haut-Normandie
2012
QF
Apr
Clay Out
Roquebrune
SW, Med Coast
Monte Carlo
2010
1
Mar
Hard In
Toulon
SW
Provence-Alpes-Azur
QF
Jul
Hard In
Clermont Ferrand
Middle
Auvergne
SF
Sep
Hard In
Lyon
ES
Rhone-Alpes
2007
1
Feb
Hard In
Clermont Ferrand
Middle
Auvergne
2006
QF
Apr
Carpet, In
Pau
SW, Pyrenees
Aquitaine
2005
1
Mar
Clay In
Strasbourg
NE
Alsace
2004
1
Feb
Clay In
Metz
NE
Lorraine
2003
QF
Apr
Hard In
Toulouse
SE
Midi-Pyrenees
2002
1
Feb
Clay In
Metz
NW
Lorraine
QF
Apr
Carpet In
Pau
SW, Pyrenees
Aquitaine
SF
Sep
Clay Out
Roland Garros
Paris
Ile de France
F
Nov
Clay In
Bercy
Paris
Ile de France
ATP
Montpelier
S, Med Coast
Languedoc-Roussillon
ATP
Metz
NW
Lorraine
ATP
Marseille, Nice
S, Med Coast
Provence-Alpes-Azur
ATP
Lyon
ES
Rhone-Alpes
Sallydaisy
07-02-2017, 16:02
Here's a list of French Regional Capitals/Major Towns
Held DC tie. Holds ATP or Grand Slam regularly
Alsace - Strasbourg, Mulhouse
Aquitaine - Bordeaux, Pau, Bayonne
Auvergne - Clermont Ferrand
Bretagne (Brittany) - Rennes, Brest
Bourgogne (Burgundy) - Dijon, Macon
Centre - Tours, Orléans, Bourges
Champagne-Ardenne - Chalons en Champagne, Reims, Troyes, Charleville-Mézières
Corse (Corsica) - Bastia (Not shown - off the southeast of France), Ajaccio
Franche-Comté - Besançon
Languedoc-Roussillon - Montpellier, Nimes, Perpignan
Limousin - Limoges
Lorraine - Metz, Nancy
Basse-Normandie - Caen, Cherbourg
Midi-Pyrénées - Toulouse
Nord-Pas-de-Calais - Lille, Calais, Valenciennes
Paris region (IdF) - Paris
Pays-de-la-Loire - Nantes, La Roche sur Yon
Picardy - Amiens
Poitou-Charentes - Poitiers, La Rochelle
Provence-Alpes-Azur - Marseille, Toulon, Cannes, Nice, Avignon
Rhône-Alpes - Lyon, Grenoble
Haute-Normandie - Rouen, Le Havre
Overseas territories:- Guadeloupe, New Caledonia, French Guiana, Martinique, Reunion, Mayotte, French Polynesia and French Antarctica.
http://www.informationfrance.com/images/maps/map_towns.gif
And for those of you into Geography ... these are the French Regions as at October 2016.
http://www.travelensemble.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/france-regions-map-500-296x300.gif
themass15
07-02-2017, 16:03
From that could be virtually anywhere in France.
If it's French Antarctica I am afraid I would have to cancel my interest (much as I would love to go to Antarctica)......!!!
RosieBear
07-02-2017, 16:12
Bravo to the French :bravo: I know I've been like a broken record about moving home ties around in this country:shamed: but it's so, so important. DC ties should be held all over the home country, in big arenas and with low ticket prices because this form of tennis gets youngsters interested in the sport like no other. France hasn't had a male megastar grand slam champ for quite a while, yet I believe tennis is the most popular sport in the country, largely because they make it accessible. The LTA should emulate the French imo.
Sallydaisy
07-02-2017, 16:14
If it's French Antarctica I am afraid I would have to cancel my interest (much as I would love to go to Antarctica)......!!!
:lol:
They'd have to build an ice arena, ice hotels and bars and work out how to lay clay on ice.
interesting idea ...
;)
Obviously, the inclusion of FrenchAntarctica was a minor jest on my part ...
:getcoat:
As was my response:-) Mind you if I ever won the lottery I don't do, Antarctica would be first on my list of places to go to. I have a bit of a whale obsession, but I digress.
Well, we've just done the Arctic...
dewster99
07-02-2017, 17:03
Told the gf I could go for the tennis nad shecould have a holiday, she seemed on board. Mind you I did say it would probably be in Paris so...
themass15
07-02-2017, 17:44
As Yannick Noah is also the Captain of the French Fed Cup team, we are unlikely to hear anything before next Monday at the earliest.
Guerkins2
07-02-2017, 17:45
Stadium in Lille looks as though it's available. Looks as though they put clay down there before. That would work well for Eurostar ;)
Sallydaisy
07-02-2017, 17:54
Stadium in Lille looks as though it's available. Looks as though they put clay down there before. That would work well for Eurostar ;)
No it isn't. LOSC Lille are playing at home to OSC Nice
http://www.losc.fr/saison-football/equipe-pro/calendrier#next_match
themass15
07-02-2017, 17:56
No it isn't. LOSC Lille are playing at home to OSC Nice
http://www.losc.fr/saison-football/equipe-pro/calendrier#next_match
I saw both arenas in Lille have events. Shame. Easy for those living near London.
As Yannick Noah is also the Captain of the French Fed Cup team, we are unlikely to hear anything before next Monday at the earliest.
I will be surprised if we will hear anything before the deadline which I believe is 20th Feb (15 days after the end of the first round) .... certainly if Italy is anything to go by (the Naples tie) which is the last time the QF was in April after a first round weekend after the AO ....
\i need to know where I'm travelling to and by what method!!! Hurry up and announce it France for flips sake LOL
goldfish
07-02-2017, 19:35
Rouen would be almost perfect for me, pretty please. Accommodation sorted already, 30 mins away.
angiebabez
07-02-2017, 19:39
They didn't let him in the other bar we went to Caro, the bouncer took him hostage on the way in. If that's how they welcome Andy in Glasgow I don't think he'd be welcomed with warmth in France lol
Lol...he said that "andy" would cause a comotion!!!! Flippin heck i know andy is popular in Glasgow but i hardly think that a cardboard version of him would have made a bar full of drunken revellers go crazy.
themass15
07-02-2017, 20:07
Rouen would be almost perfect for me, pretty please. Accommodation sorted already, 30 mins away.
What makes you think it could be Rouen? Event cancelled on 7th April though
I remember taking Andy in Glasgow into the first pub, I bet the Glaswegians thought we were ****** nuts!
In other news, am frantically googling travel options to a variety of French locations
goldfish
07-02-2017, 21:27
What makes you think it could be Rouen? Event cancelled on 7th April though
One of the places they've used in the past according to Sallydaisy. I'm just being hopeful - have a house there.
Guerkins2
07-02-2017, 21:50
No it isn't. LOSC Lille are playing at home to OSC Nice
http://www.losc.fr/saison-football/equipe-pro/calendrier#next_match
Sorry - didn't look carefully enough!
Sorry - didn't look carefully enough!
I posted on pages 2 and 5 that it couldn't be held there. It was the first place I checked,
as it's a very big seating capacity and with it being close enough to fill as both teams are
close enough, my thinking was they would want to cash in.
Lets face it they're prepared to cream cracker up the final to cash in, so why not go for the full 27'000 tickets?
I even checked to see how well it was sold, but with only 8 tickets left I doubt they're gonna move it.
Sallydaisy
07-02-2017, 23:16
There's some chap called Jeremy Ferrari, and another called Renaud, doing loads of concerts around the Zenith group of Arenas (the ones usually used for DC ties in "provincial" cities/towns) + Timeo (Henners in disguise???) was also popping up in a few of them during DC week. However, Timeo has cancelled their entire tour, including 7th April in Rouen, and Les Chansonniers have cancelled 2nd April in Rouen. So, Zenith Rouen has a run of dates free from Sunday 2nd until 11th April (Holiday on Ice) and Zenith Montpelier has a run of dates free from 1st-13th April. There's still quite a few other options for the French though ...
Bravo to the French :bravo: I know I've been like a broken record about moving home ties around in this country:shamed: but it's so, so important. DC ties should be held all over the home country, in big arenas and with low ticket prices because this form of tennis gets youngsters interested in the sport like no other. France hasn't had a male megastar grand slam champ for quite a while, yet I believe tennis is the most popular sport in the country, largely because they make it accessible. The LTA should emulate the French imo.
I think the LTA would do this if venues that were large enough were available at short notice but they just haven't been in the last couple of years. No excuse for the ticket prices though, especially Birmingham.
Rosalind
07-02-2017, 23:50
does anyone know what the French charge (approximately) for their DC matches? Expensive like us or cheap like Belgium? Hoping it's like Belgium!
One of the places they've used in the past according to Sallydaisy. I'm just being hopeful - have a house there.
We'll all come and stay with you then! ;)
suttontennis
08-02-2017, 09:40
One of the places they've used in the past according to Sallydaisy. I'm just being hopeful - have a house there.
Rouen - lovely place - been there for Ice Hockey. Wonderful Cathedrals, puts Gent (literally) in the shade.
goldfish
08-02-2017, 13:06
:)
We'll all come and stay with you then! ;)
Plenty of room for tents in the garden but we are still 30 mins from Rouen. ;)
roytennisfan
08-02-2017, 15:43
:)
Plenty of room for tents in the garden but we are still 30 mins from Rouen. ;)
Hopefully a dry run for the Wimbledon campers
The forum has been going to rack and Rouen for years...
The forum has been going to rack and Rouen for years...
I'll get your coat!
Rouen is only about 3 hours from me (apparently) - however, its NOT the easiest to get to if not driving (which I wont be) - I have options though :D
Hurry up France announce the venue please! we have travel plans to make !
I remember this tight turnaround for Naples. It's agony waiting for the announcement.
Can I make a plea to everyone hoping to go ..... I know some people have already booked cancellable hotels in different places, BUT please, please can we have a discussion on here before people finalise their hotels? For people travelling alone (and for any of us that like the cameraderie of being with fellow forummers) it is soooo much nicer if as many as possible stay in the same or at least neighbouring hotels. In Naples everyone panic booked without discussion and we all ended up flung far and wide across the city.
@ Caro - that's good for me. Although I am an antisocial git, I am doing this one alone (assuming I manage to get my grubby little paws on tickets). My target is to join you all for a meal this time, if one happens:-)
@ Caro - that's good for me. Although I am an antisocial git, I am doing this one alone (assuming I manage to get my grubby little paws on tickets). My target is to join you all for a meal this time, if one happens:-)
From my recollection no grumpy antisocial gits are allowed at the meal out, although you may be allowed
a quick hello if you send down a bottle of wine, eh Sally?:flowers:
;);):wino:;);)
dewster99
09-02-2017, 10:32
Do the hotels really book up that quickly that people need to book before the venue is announced?
To be fair I'd slum it in a hostel for a few nights. Only gonna be there to sleep
I remember this tight turnaround for Naples. It's agony waiting for the announcement.
Can I make a plea to everyone hoping to go ..... I know some people have already booked cancellable hotels in different places, BUT please, please can we have a discussion on here before people finalise their hotels? For people travelling alone (and for any of us that like the cameraderie of being with fellow forummers) it is soooo much nicer if as many as possible stay in the same or at least neighbouring hotels. In Naples everyone panic booked without discussion and we all ended up flung far and wide across the city.
It was nice when we accidentally ended up at the same hotel when I'm Serbia. Nice chats at breakfast
It was nice when we accidentally ended up at the same hotel when I'm Serbia. Nice chats at breakfast Indeed. That was the first time we met. There was a group of us at the same hotel in Serbia which was great. If people want to do their own thing, that's fine of course and I'm sure they will say so.
Sallydaisy
09-02-2017, 13:32
Do the hotels really book up that quickly that people need to book before the venue is announced?To be fair I'd slum it in a hostel for a few nights. Only gonna be there to sleep
Yes, especially the ones that are affordable.
I remember this tight turnaround for Naples. It's agony waiting for the announcement.
Can I make a plea to everyone hoping to go ..... I know some people have already booked cancellable hotels in different places, BUT please, please can we have a discussion on here before people finalise their hotels? For people travelling alone (and for any of us that like the cameraderie of being with fellow forummers) it is soooo much nicer if as many as possible stay in the same or at least neighbouring hotels. In Naples everyone panic booked without discussion and we all ended up flung far and wide across the city.
The problem being that by the time everyone has had chance to discuss things on here another 24hrs might have gone by and all the hotels been booked up by other fans wanting to go! That will be especially the case IMHO with the French tie because it is so accessible to travelling fans.
One think I would say is that a lot of the possible venues have their Arenas 'out of town' (as in Gent) so if folks book in City Centre hotels they're likely to be closer together for socialising. For some people it's just much more convenient to stay at a hotel near the Arena ...
suttontennis
09-02-2017, 13:41
other possible venues include places where the Fed Cup team have played recently, such as Strasbourg, Limoges, Besancon.
Indeed. That was the first time we met. There was a group of us at the same hotel in Serbia which was great. If people want to do their own thing, that's fine of course and I'm sure they will say so.
That it was. There didn't seem to be many not in back the Brits tops at breakfast, but odd that is was accidental. Perhaps even without discussion it will be the same again. I don't remember what most attracted us to that one. I think when at home we stay further from the venue to save cost as we usually share a car (with KevD and yellowlivi) but in Serbia and Belgium we were nearer. France is hard to guess at because if it's north we may take the car anyway for more flexibility. But much further south than Paris it and starts to become too far. Though most of the drive is from Liverpool to the tunnel.
Hopefully even if the short turn around and expensive travel period do mean people are a little scattered we can still arrange a meal for the Saturday and maybe other meets around the tie. Even though going with the LTA I've never been alone as I always have my two tennis companions, it is more fun when there is even more of you.
Sallydaisy
09-02-2017, 14:03
other possible venues include places where the Fed Cup team have played recently, such as Strasbourg, Limoges, Besancon.
Strasbourg is booked, Besancon is too small (only 4000) and Limoges hosts a home basketball tie.
Strasbourg is booked, Besancon is too small (only 4000) and Limoges hosts a home basketball tie.
Perhaps French Antarctica might be a possibility after all.................:cold:
While watching the tennis in Montpellier now, I have been wondering if that might be a possible venue? Don't know the capacity there.
In an earlier post sally said it was 7500. So it is big enough
In an earlier post sally said it was 7500. So it is big enough
It certainly looks big enough on telly! I suppose though the bigger the venue, the bigger the allocation of tickets for us!
roytennisfan
09-02-2017, 20:58
In an earlier post sally said it was 7500. So it is big enough
Yes I like the sound of Montpellier, 750 Brits +???, for us flybe daily man-lyon then tgv(2 hrs) or car (3 hrs) flight currently £83 wed (arr21.30) - Mon 10th
Would prefer Monaco though 900 + ??? Liv Nice flights daily and lots of train stop options along coast easyjet £110 wed £101 thurs to mon
roytennisfan
09-02-2017, 21:37
Yes, especially the ones that are affordable.
The problem being that by the time everyone has had chance to discuss things on here another 24hrs might have gone by and all the hotels been booked up by other fans wanting to go! That will be especially the case IMHO with the French tie because it is so accessible to travelling fans.
One think I would say is that a lot of the possible venues have their Arenas 'out of town' (as in Gent) so if folks book in City Centre hotels they're likely to be closer together for socialising. For some people it's just much more convenient to stay at a hotel near the Arena ...
Is it possible to agree a venue for each place in advance?????
eg Montpellier Ibis Central(100 rooms good rating £52 for 1/2 £58 for 3) free wifi no breakfast
What annoys me is people booking several hotels in the same town. Last time I went to Glasgow, the PI was full so I had to book into the Millennium at twice the price. Then a few days before the tie, people cancelled their spare bookings so I could have got into the PI after all :grrr:
exislander
09-02-2017, 22:47
Is it possible to agree a venue for each place in advance?????
eg Montpellier Ibis Central(100 rooms good rating £52 for 1/2 £58 for 3) free wifi no breakfast
That sounds ideal Roy - if it is to be Montpellier. Ibis seem to be reasonably priced. Have any forum members booked that one cancellable on the off-chance?
tinawatt
09-02-2017, 22:53
I love all these back and fore messages re venue and hotels. So many have become so savvy with all these venue and hotel hunts over the years. I'm glad though. Following is easy. It is so exciting. Hope they choose the biggest venue possible so we don't have a problem getting tickets.
What annoys me is people booking several hotels in the same town. Last time I went to Glasgow, the PI was full so I had to book into the Millennium at twice the price. Then a few days before the tie, people cancelled their spare bookings so I could have got into the PI after all :grrr:
It seems madness to book more than one hotel in the same place. Maybe they weren't sure if it was the hydro or Emirates, even then they are that far apart! I think some people book in hope of getting tickets but cancel when they don't. I've done that before now with green day. But it was still cancelled months before, as soon as I gave up hope of getting tickets. I don't think it will be easy to guess the place for this as it was with Belgium and Serbia so I imagine many of us will be rushing about at the last minute looking for hotels.
exislander
09-02-2017, 22:59
What annoys me is people booking several hotels in the same town. Last time I went to Glasgow, the PI was full so I had to book into the Millennium at twice the price. Then a few days before the tie, people cancelled their spare bookings so I could have got into the PI after all :grrr:
That irritates me too - no wonder booking one room, especially a single, is so difficult when some have double bookings. I would rather wait till venue is known and just make one booking, usually non cancellable. If that means there is nothing left that I can afford I would just have to stay at home - hope that does not happen.
Exactly, exislander. That is what I do, wait until it is known and then make a firm booking.
roytennisfan
10-02-2017, 10:22
That sounds ideal Roy - if it is to be Montpellier. Ibis seem to be reasonably priced. Have any forum members booked that one cancellable on the off-chance?
Cancellable ones are slightly more but probably still a better price than waiting till others book
roytennisfan
10-02-2017, 11:42
Montpellier - Suicide bomb plot foiled, 3 men and a girl arrested ......suppose it could be anywhere in France....well if we went to Ghent whilst Brussels was on alert, doubt if it will put anybody off going
themass15
10-02-2017, 11:58
Montpellier - Suicide bomb plot foiled, 3 men and a girl arrested ......suppose it could be anywhere in France....well if we went to Ghent whilst Brussels was on alert, doubt if it will put anybody off going
Hopefully lightning does not strike twice in the same place. What makes you think it will be Montpellier? Has to be inside there I imagine.
tinawatt
11-02-2017, 07:47
I think there is no point changing plans or not doing something in fear of a terrorist attack. These crazy people can be anywhere at any time. You would loose out a lot if you lived in fear.
Roy is right, it didn't put us off going to Ghent.
I think it's more likely going to be indoor clay anyway than outdoors. Naples was this time of year and obviously was outdoors but it's much further south .... and the weather was iffy. Pouring rain one day and not that warm the other days. I just don't think they'll risk it .... but we shall see ....
After the last experience of DC outdoor clay, i will be hoping for indoor. It serves us well in Belgium :) they saw how well our guys coped with rain and thunderstorms in Serbia.
When do France have to make their decision on the venue?
themass15
14-02-2017, 12:53
When do France have to make their decision on the venue?
20th Feb is the latest but they might ask for extra time. GB had that for the tie against France at Queens in 2017.
roytennisfan
14-02-2017, 15:49
20th Feb is the latest but they might ask for extra time. GB had that for the tie against France at Queens in 2017.
Yes but a much bigger gap that year around twice as long from early March to mid July, have to have court ready in 6 weeks from 20th Feb!
roytennisfan
14-02-2017, 20:38
According to email from BATS, decision is by 24th and understand it is likely outdoor clay, so south of France or Monaco
roytennisfan
14-02-2017, 20:41
Anyone know any other possible outdoor clay court locations 6k+ in the south of France, to me Monaco must be the firm Favourite if BATS are right, but I suppose they could build a venue somewhere AKA Naples
Roland Garros? or is that no likley?
roytennisfan
14-02-2017, 20:49
Roland Garros? or is that no likley?
Have you tried Paris in April? I remember it snowing on a boat trip down the Seine
themass15
14-02-2017, 20:52
In the quarterfinal, we are due to play France away from 7 to 9 April. The venue has not yet been announced but the deadline is apparently six weeks before. We should hear by 24 February at the latest and hopefully during that week. We understand that it is likely to be outdoors on clay so it could be in the South of France or Monte Carlo. After the venue announcement, the LTA will let us know our allocation of tickets.
Confirming above what Roy has put
themass15
14-02-2017, 20:53
Have you tried Paris in April? I remember it snowing on a boat trip down the Seine
I was in Marseille in the middle of April a few years ago when it was snowing in Paris.
Starts looking into ways to get to the South of France!
Have you tried Paris in April? I remember it snowing on a boat trip down the Seine
It was just wet when we went in April, the first few days were cold but the last day was just a downpour. That was the the first weekend so around the same time. If they are looking to spread the game though I think Paris is unlikely. I also think maybe not Montpelier as they have o my just had an event. Hopefully we will find out on Monday. Before we all go mad trying to guess
More like before prices shoot up as its the first weekend of the Easter holidays!
themass15
14-02-2017, 21:51
Anyone know any other possible outdoor clay court locations 6k+ in the south of France, to me Monaco must be the firm Favourite if BATS are right, but I suppose they could build a venue somewhere AKA Naples
Could be Marseille or Montpellier if they have any venues which could be used for tennis.
roytennisfan
14-02-2017, 22:24
See Sally had Lyon down as a possibility, can't find capacity/if it's ready
Parc de la tete d'or, Lyon, = Clay Outdoor = capacity unknown.
(new venue replacing Nice, 20-27 May JWTsonga runs a tennis summer camp there.)
The feeling in the bats camp is that will be outdoor clay which given the time of year makes the south more likely. Monday is most likely the earliest we will hear they could push it til Friday. Lyon would be good as it's accessible via cheap flights and is not a big school holiday destination
The feeling in the bats camp is that will be outdoor clay which given the time of year makes the south more likely. Monday is most likely the earliest we will hear they could push it til Friday. Lyon would be good as it's accessible via cheap flights and is not a big school holiday destination
Wow, any advance on Friday anybody?
:whistle:;)
themass15
15-02-2017, 06:50
See Sally had Lyon down as a possibility, can't find capacity/if it's ready
Parc de la tete d'or, Lyon, = Clay Outdoor = capacity unknown.
(new venue replacing Nice, 20-27 May JWTsonga runs a tennis summer camp there.)
Have you seen rainfall for Lyon in April? Would be surprised if it outdoor clay there.
themass15
15-02-2017, 06:51
I think the venue has to be announced by Monday, 20th. How long will it take the LTA to announce who gets what allocation though?
If they chose Lyon, I probably will staying at the Aparteo Lyon 7 Jean Jaures.
[QUOTE=themass15;203465]I think the venue has to be announced by Monday, 20th.
Yeah I thought it was Monday 20th too but according to bats the deadline is 24th Feb
themass15
15-02-2017, 09:57
[QUOTE=themass15;203465]I think the venue has to be announced by Monday, 20th.
Yeah I thought it was Monday 20th too but according to bats the deadline is 24th Feb
I think that may be the deadline for the LTA to advise what the allocation is. In the Davis Cup Rules and Regulations it say the venue must be announced for the quarter final 15 days after the tie is completed i.e. 20th February. Perhaps I have missed something.
I think that may be the deadline for the LTA to advise what the allocation is. In the Davis Cup Rules and Regulations it say the venue must be announced for the quarter final 15 days after the tie is completed i.e. 20th February. Perhaps I have missed something.
I'm with you, no idea where they've got the 24th from.
15 days before the 1st round there is a deadline for providing a list of potential QF venues.
Then, a completed Questionnaire on the chosen QF venue must be submitted to the ITF for approval no later than 15 days after the completion of the First Round (20th Feb)
roytennisfan
15-02-2017, 10:39
Have you seen rainfall for Lyon in April? Would be surprised if it outdoor clay there.
Weather in Monaco in April. The weather in Monaco in April is relatively comfortable for a trip in terms of degrees (10-17), but it might be rainy (around 14 rainfall days) so it is important to prepare yourself with an umbrella and raincoat.
Most of the rain is heavy showers which quickly clear
See Sally had Lyon down as a possibility, can't find capacity/if it's ready
Parc de la tete d'or, Lyon, = Clay Outdoor = capacity unknown.
(new venue replacing Nice, 20-27 May JWTsonga runs a tennis summer camp there.)
Capacity 4000 and built inside a (outdoor) velodrome apparently so it seems unlikely for the QF.
I was in the park in Sept 2014 but can't remember seeing the velodrome.
I'm with you, no idea where they've got the 24th from.
15 days before the 1st round there is a deadline for providing a list of potential QF venues.
Then, a completed Questionnaire on the chosen QF venue must be submitted to the ITF for approval no later than 15 days after the completion of the First Round (20th Feb)
Yes see this is what I was going from. From the end of the first round. In their email they say it's 6 weeks before the tie. It doesn't seem right and as the 20th is closer I'm going to hope for that lol. Perhaps they mean with extra time it could be Friday? But they are talking about venue announcement. I was happily counting down the days til Monday before, I will go back to that as if I'd never heard about their dates lol
Silverdee
15-02-2017, 13:03
One upside of Monte Carlo (the only one perhaps?) is the capacity of Court Rainier III, 10,200 seats!
Silverdee
15-02-2017, 13:19
Weather in Monaco in April. The weather in Monaco in April is relatively comfortable for a trip in terms of degrees (10-17), but it might be rainy (around 14 rainfall days) so it is important to prepare yourself with an umbrella and raincoat.
Most of the rain is heavy showers which quickly clear
I remember watching the tournament there last year on TV and the commentators were complaining about the unseasonably cold and windy weather. The crowd looked well wrapped up! I don't recall any rain delays though.
From the horse's mouth whatever bats have say the Davis cup twitter account says they have til 20th Feb to announce so we were right after all, bats just making us question ourselves lol
themass15
15-02-2017, 13:41
I think BATS is talking about what allocation of tickets they will receive by 24th February
No she was taking about venue, from email
"The venue has not yet been announced but the deadline is apparently six weeks before. We should hear by 24 February at the latest and hopefully during that week"
Think I can see where BATS went wrong by 4 days, the deadline day (20 Feb) is 6 weeks before the match court needs to be available for practice (3 Apr) not 6 weeks before the tie starts (7 Apr).
btw, the 6 weeks is not anything to do with the DC regulations, it's just a random outcome based on this years DC schedule.
I have just booked a cancellable hotel in Monte Carlo - just in case. Might be worth others doing the same if it looks likely to be the venue the prices are going through the roof.
themass15
15-02-2017, 14:54
I have just booked a cancellable hotel in Monte Carlo - just in case. Might be worth others doing the same if it looks likely to be the venue the prices are going through the roof.
Where are you staying in MC? I thought prices were through the roof at all hotels there all year.
Hotel Le Grand Gap - about 3 miles from the tennis centre. Got it for about £50 a night for 4 nights. Assume it doesn't include breakfast at that price.....!!!
I searched Monte carlo hotels on booking.com and only 1 came up for those dates. Have booked cancellable hotel in Nice and would plan to travel in by train every day which JerryD has said is easy to do. It might be cheaper to book hotel and flight together though through something like expedia. Flights from Birmingham to Nice are not cheap.
I searched Monte carlo hotels on booking.com and only 1 came up for those dates. Have booked cancellable hotel in Nice and would plan to travel in by train every day which JerryD has said is easy to do. It might be cheaper to book hotel and flight together though through something like expedia. Flights from Birmingham to Nice are not cheap.
Cheaper ones are on hotel.com
Cheaper ones are on hotel.com
Thanks Teresa - just has a very quick look and Nice looks more expensive on there to me. Will obviously look more closely at various options once we know venue for certain. Have not ruled out indoor clay yet ....
This of course, presumes that the tennis fairy delivers tickets..........
angiebabez
15-02-2017, 16:48
Hotel Le Grand Gap - about 3 miles from the tennis centre. Got it for about £50 a night for 4 nights. Assume it doesn't include breakfast at that price.....!!!
50 quid for 4 nights in DC!!! Are u sure it aint a brothel??? :laugh: i dont think i would chance summit THAT cheap ;)
Did you have any luck Finding somewhere cheap Caro?
50 quid for 4 nights in DC!!! Are u sure it aint a brothel??? :laugh: i dont think i would chance summit THAT cheap ;)
That's £50 per night I hasten to add........
Nope had a brothel in Birmingham- an interesting experience, but one I have no wish to repeat. I was suprised as well, but I have cross checked, and unlike the Birmingham hotel non of the Trip Advisor reviews discuss a secondary function.....!!!:-)
29_adjacent
15-02-2017, 18:19
I've booked Trocadero in Nice. Right by train station for easy access to train to MC. Worked out at about £100 per person for 4 nights. Might look at hotels in MC too just in case.
Did you have any luck Finding somewhere cheap Caro?
No I haven't but am happy with Nice tbh .... that's if it's in MC of course!
I've booked Trocadero in Nice. Right by train station for easy access to train to MC. Worked out at about £100 per person for 4 nights. Might look at hotels in MC too just in case.
I've also booked somewhere in Nice (can't remember name), nearer sea but still walking distance to train station. A bit more money, about £32pppn, so still reasonable.
That's £50 per night I hasten to add........
Nope had a brothel in Birmingham- an interesting experience, but one I have no wish to repeat. I was suprised as well, but I have cross checked, and unlike the Birmingham hotel non of the Trip Advisor reviews discuss a secondary function.....!!!:-)
I could have advised you on that. There are several 'hotels' in Birmingham that are a bit dodgy, as I am sure there are in most major cities, but I know which areas to avoid. If you come my way again, use the local knowledge ... ie ask me! Birmingham is a great city and I wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea ...
No I haven't but am happy with Nice tbh .... that's if it's in MC of course!
I've also booked somewhere in Nice (can't remember name), nearer sea but still walking distance to train station. A bit more money, about £32pppn, so still reasonable.
I could have advised you on that. There are several 'hotels' in Birmingham that are a bit dodgy, as I am sure there are in most major cities, but I know which areas to avoid. If you come my way again, use the local knowledge ... ie ask me! Birmingham is a great city and I wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea ...
Thanks. Will do. The Britannia hotel was a unique experience....!!!
WimbledonWestie
16-02-2017, 19:59
I could have advised you on that. There are several 'hotels' in Birmingham that are a bit dodgy, as I am sure there are in most major cities, but I know which areas to avoid. If you come my way again, use the local knowledge ... ie ask me! Birmingham is a great city and I wouldn't want people getting the wrong idea ...
Anita and I have nothing but fond memories of Birmingham after our trip last year - - every time it's mentioned on tv the memories come flooding back. Everyone was very friendly and helpful and welcoming and I thought the area by the canal next to the arena was lovely. We saw a brief glimpse of some of the main city centre on our way to the train station to head home and it looked nice too.
I talked about the tie to everyone I know, yesterday, and they all mentioned Roland Garros, as that was the only one they'd heard of.
It seemed last week that Zenith arena in Rouen was a possibility but the Kindarena in Rouen may also be a contender
http://www.paris-normandie.fr/breves/sport-en-direct/tennis-coupe-davis--rouen-candidat-pour-france-grande-bretagne-EB8560327
Metropolis Rouen Normandie, Normandy region, the department of Seine-Maritime and Normandy league sent Thursday to the French Tennis Federation a joint bid to host the Kindarena meet Davis Cup France - Great Britain, accounting for the quarter-finals of the event. It will take place on Friday 7, Saturday 8 and Sunday 9 April. The decision of the FFT must intervene Monday, February 20. The Kindarena has hosted a meeting (1st round) Davis Cup in February 2013: France - Israel.
Sounds like a real possibility then if they have requested to host and it's common knowledge .... need to start booking up cancellable rooms in Rouen folks ;)
goldfish
17-02-2017, 13:56
Getting my hopes up for Rouen now. :thumbup:
And checking ferry crossings!
Do we know where else has applied?
Thanks have found and booked a cancelable room a kilometre from the arena.
Just looked at where it is. Train to Portsmouth and Ferry across. Much easier than Monte Carlo, so hope it is there.
themass15
17-02-2017, 14:06
Supposed to be a lovely City
themass15
17-02-2017, 14:07
And checking ferry crossings!
Do we know where else has applied?
Could the joint bid be the Zenith Arena. Concerts there have been cancelled.
Where is the Zenith arena?
(Sorry, should have read above).
btw, was just reporting what I've read, not saying I think will be there!
Could be 5, 10 or more cities have bid, we'll most likely never find out.
I'm not booking anything till venue is announced
I would still prefer Nice/Monte Carlo as the flight from Edinburgh to Nice is currently cheaper than to Paris and it's an easier journey from the airport.
exislander
17-02-2017, 14:47
When the venue is eventually announced would it be helpful for those of us yet to make bookings to know which hotels people have been booking near that venue so as to facilitate the forum group members being in the same, or nearby, hotels? There was some discussion earlier on this thread about it being a good idea to be together if possible although I know people have varying requirements/budgets etc.
roytennisfan
17-02-2017, 14:53
Seen the same on http://www.normandie-actu.fr/tennis-rouen-candidate-accueillir-quart-finale-coupe-davis-france-grande-bretagne_256237/
Rouen Capacity is only 6,000 though, will they go for a larger venue?
Seen the same on http://www.normandie-actu.fr/tennis-rouen-candidate-accueillir-quart-finale-coupe-davis-france-grande-bretagne_256237/
Rouen Capacity is only 6,000 though, will they go for a larger venue?
The smaller it is, the fewer tickets they have to give us. Got 3 cheap hotels booked in Rouen just in case. Depending on which arena they use if it's Rouen. Will hold onto them until we know. Might be useful for other folks.
When the venue is eventually announced would it be helpful for those of us yet to make bookings to know which hotels people have been booking near that venue so as to facilitate the forum group members being in the same, or nearby, hotels? There was some discussion earlier on this thread about it being a good idea to be together if possible although I know people have varying requirements/budgets etc.
Yes, this is what I was saying. Those of us who have booked hotels, they are cancellable and as long as prices don't go up up massively when the venue is announced, it's easy to cancel and rebook somewhere else. Some people prefer to be as close to the venue as possible while others prefer city centre, but it would definitely be good to have groups of forummers in a couple or more hotels so that people are not on their own.
I was actually saying earlier that though the announcements usually come int he morning as I will be able to get o line until 12 it probably won't be until after 12 when I am playing in the mud with the nephews and chasing them around the park. We did book a cancellable room in nice but I am now thinking it's and unlikely choice and we didn't book anywhere else. So hoping the announcement comes at a time when I can do something about it
Really hoping today is the day folks ....
themass15
20-02-2017, 07:11
They will have to have a good reason if it isn't
The LTA never seem to bother about missing deadlines lol!
Sallydaisy
20-02-2017, 08:02
I'm on the road today so won't be able to log into forum until late this evening.
Have a few things up my sleeve tho'
;)
If the rest of the home countries have to announce it today, then Australia has missed the deadline.
Rosalind
20-02-2017, 08:23
hope it's this morning! Working after 1pm until late so I actually don't mind them missing the deadline and announcing tomorrow when I have a better day
themass15
20-02-2017, 08:38
If the rest of the home countries have to announce it today, then Australia has missed the deadline.
Could have been advised but not yet announced. Am I right in thinking DC hq is in London at the ITF?
roytennisfan
20-02-2017, 11:07
Frantically searching ...but will it be announced today, not clear on this tweet
FFTVerified account @FFTennis Feb 15
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@AndrewMcCrea3 The #FRAGBR Davis Cup venue will be announced next week.
themass15
20-02-2017, 11:08
Frantically searching ...but will it be announced today, not clear on this tweet
FFTVerified account @FFTennis Feb 15
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@AndrewMcCrea3 The #FRAGBR Davis Cup venue will be announced next week.
Well that could mean any day this week
29_adjacent
20-02-2017, 12:31
1238
29_adjacent
20-02-2017, 12:31
Definitely today it seems
cochrar0
20-02-2017, 12:32
Davis Cup just tweeted confirmation deadline is today :-) wish they would hurry up and announce
Wish they would hurry up!
DC venue and Wimby ballot on the same day = stress central! For once I'm not worrying about Wimby tickets, I just want to know DC venue!!! Pleeeease France! They're paying us back for 2015 when LTA kept them waiting forever before announcing Queens as venue for QF.
themass15
20-02-2017, 12:44
Yes I haven't been sleeping well for weeks. Disturbed my sleep pattern during Oz Open and only 2 decent nights.
I've been checking every half an hour and still nothing.
29_adjacent
20-02-2017, 12:58
I'm going into a 2.5 hour meeting at 2pm so no doubt the announcement will be made at 2.01pm!
supergran
20-02-2017, 13:12
Patience is a virtue......:big grin:
cochrar0
20-02-2017, 13:21
Refreshing websites and twitter - every two mins - hurry up please - Davis Cup venue announcement
Patience is a virtue......:big grin:
In that case I must be one of the most un-virtuous people on the planet.....!!!:-)
roytennisfan
20-02-2017, 13:29
I'm certainly not patient
FFT @FFTennis 3m3 minutes ago
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@royawebb Soon! :)
tinawatt
20-02-2017, 15:55
Patience is a virtue......:big grin:
Well that's me, no virtue what so ever!
The meeting # FRAGBR will take place at the Sports @ LeKindarena Rouen on clay.
http://bit.ly/2m4pM6i
roytennisfan
20-02-2017, 15:58
Rouen
themass15
20-02-2017, 16:02
Going to book the travel now!
angiebabez
20-02-2017, 16:03
Small capacity
exislander
20-02-2017, 16:08
So which hotels are people booking?
Silverdee
20-02-2017, 16:08
FFT website says 5210 capacity for tennis!!!
exislander
20-02-2017, 16:08
Small capacity
Yes, I guess might not get a ticket!
Indoor clay, no surprises there.
goldfish
20-02-2017, 16:22
Oh boy, best venue for me but will we get tickets? Nail biting .....
I already have a booking at the Arts De Seine Hotel in Rouen, about 1.5 miles away.
How many will they release for GB fans? Fingers crossed..
themass15
20-02-2017, 16:41
Jackie and I have booked the Best Western Litteraire Gustave
Guerkins2
20-02-2017, 16:49
Jackie and I have booked the Best Western Litteraire Gustave
And me too 😀
exislander
20-02-2017, 16:50
Jackie and I have booked the Best Western Litteraire Gustave
A little on the pricey side for me I think but thanks for info.
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