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jagmad
10-07-2017, 19:32
Roll out the barrel
Biscuit BARREL that is

Teresa
10-07-2017, 19:32
Double match point.

Bardot
10-07-2017, 19:32
:boogie::boogie::boogie::boogie::boogie:

jagmad
10-07-2017, 19:33
Told you.
Get in.

Absolutely Epic match
Well done to both but ESP G M

anor
10-07-2017, 19:33
Yes yes yes!

roytennisfan
10-07-2017, 19:33
Yes muller wins

Teresa
10-07-2017, 19:33
He has done it. Well done. Nadal bites the dust. How dies that affect the No 1 ranking?

lovetennis
10-07-2017, 19:33
:yahoo::yahoo::yahoo::yahoo: Brilliant Gilles Muller

roytennisfan
10-07-2017, 19:33
Bye bye Rafa.... Adios

ljs
10-07-2017, 19:34
Wow , what a match , yayyyy for Muller:clap::clap:

RosieBear
10-07-2017, 19:35
WOW!!!!!! He's done it!!! He's out toughed Nadal, incredible, and I (and others) must eat our words about his chances.:shamed: So so happy for him, for Andy (;)) and us! Magic, magic Monday!

Fair play to Rafa for waiting and walking off together.

JAMES4578
10-07-2017, 19:35
Amazing match in the end and Muller finally gets the win as Nadal goes long, certainly dramatic-Giles was so gutsy!:cheer::cheer: Nadal nearly had great comeback but couldn't find a way to progress.

Speedy Hawk
10-07-2017, 19:35
Wow! Finally end now.

Just tried find Roger Federer match BBC iPlayer and there none :'(

I been finish Andy match. His one all there.

Jane
10-07-2017, 19:36
Brilliant!!! :yahoo::yahoo::yahoo:

Bardot
10-07-2017, 19:36
I hope Nils & Lenny were watching.

http://i67.tinypic.com/j9bs4x.png

roytennisfan
10-07-2017, 19:37
No Djok today ......

exislander
10-07-2017, 19:37
Muller played so well! Great match by both.

Bardot
10-07-2017, 19:37
The Luxembourg royalty are not stuck-up like ours Rishi. :p ;)

lovetennis
10-07-2017, 19:38
And of course glad to see no Rafa in Andy's half of the draw any more. Querrey, then Muller or Cilic to get to the final (no pressure Andy, I have tickets)

ljs
10-07-2017, 19:38
I hope Nils & Lenny were watching.

http://i67.tinypic.com/j9bs4x.png

awwww his boys I assume ?:love:

cazza99
10-07-2017, 19:38
The BBC have confirmed Nole will play tomorrow.

ljs
10-07-2017, 19:43
Why can they not close the roof and get this match in ??

Bardot
10-07-2017, 19:44
Djokovic's current wife seems ok with the decision.

Jelena Djokovic‏ @JelenaRisticNDF
Central court. Stops at 11 in any case. #letsgo #nolefam

jaysee
10-07-2017, 19:45
They should have used centre court this evening. With rain forecast tomorrow, they'll be lucky to get all 4 ladies' matches and Nole played. What chance Nole still playing R4 on Wednesday?

patlowe
10-07-2017, 19:48
Well that was a classic late evening Wimbledon thriller. Amazing from both men. The resilience Rafa showed to come out and serve to save the match countless times, saving loads of match points on the way! And Muller too for hanging in there and serving so well. Headlines are Muller stuns Nadal....I think it's more like Muller stuns Muller! He looked totally stunned when he finally did it! What a great day we have had today. How differently things have turned out from Andy's projected route when the draw was first made!

Josephine
10-07-2017, 19:49
They will have to put him on first or second.

Well done Muller. I didn't think he could do it,but he played amazingly.

Andy had all the eccentrics - now he is faced with the huge servers, grasscourt suited players. If he gets further too.

RosieBear
10-07-2017, 19:49
A really big part of my happiness tonight is seeing a grass court specialist get his day in the sun. That's Muller's second (Wimbledon) win over Rafa, OK the other came in 2005 but still a win. Being on grass made all the difference, just like being on clay makes all the difference for Rafa's chances. Starkly highlights the need to split grass and clay more fairly.

jaysee
10-07-2017, 19:55
They will have to put him on first or second.

Well done Muller. I didn't think he could do it,but he played amazingly.

Andy had all the eccentrics - now he is faced with the huge servers, grasscourt suited players. If he gets further too.
Yes, Nole on centre at noon. Still might not get all 4 ladies' played.

lynne
10-07-2017, 19:57
Well that was a gallant display from Muller. so happy for him!!!:thumbup:

patlowe
10-07-2017, 19:58
A really big part of my happiness tonight is seeing a grass court specialist get his day in the sun. That's Muller's second (Wimbledon) win over Rafa, OK the other came in 2005 but still a win. Being on grass made all the difference, just like being on clay makes all the difference for Rafa's chances. Starkly highlights the need to split grass and clay more fairly.

Yes I think it's a real shame the grass season is so short, especially when I hear many players say in their interviews how much they love playing on the grass. If that is the case, there definitely should be more grass tournaments. Easier said than done I know!

Jan
10-07-2017, 19:59
So pleased for Gilles!
If Andy can't win, I rather think I might like Gilles to win!!

ljs
10-07-2017, 20:00
or Milos :lol:;)

traveller7
10-07-2017, 20:05
What a fantastic match from both. So pleased for Muller. It was such a joy to watch

angiebabez
10-07-2017, 20:06
or Milos :lol:;)

Ermm no ;)

cazza99
10-07-2017, 20:07
Revised oop for Tuesday - http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule16.html

ljs
10-07-2017, 20:12
Ermm no ;)


oh yeahhhh :p

Bardot
10-07-2017, 20:36
This from an interview Federer gave to Swiss media yesterday. Be surprised Rog. :p

Svenja Mastroberardi‏ @svenja_mastro
Federer: "I would be surprised if Murray reaches the final the way how Rafa is playing right now. I believe Rafa will reach the final."

scrapaddict
10-07-2017, 20:40
Fantastic match to watch but I am so pleased Muller won. he was so calm and just never gave in. Glad that Andy won't have to play Rafa!!

Bardot
10-07-2017, 20:43
If Djokovic makes the QF then it's almost certain his match against Berdych will be on CC given what happened today and equally certain is that Muller/Cilic will be on Court 1 so who between Andy(British, top seed, World#1) and Federer will get the other spot on Centre Court?

Bardot
10-07-2017, 20:51
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:

Speedy Hawk
10-07-2017, 20:52
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:

Haha oh dear. Did Nadal know bin was there? Or he forgot? Or it easier get ball boy do it? Lol.

lynne
10-07-2017, 21:02
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:


I thought exactly the same when I saw him do it :big grin: :thumbup:

Alis
10-07-2017, 21:07
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:

Why? What did he do?

RosieBear
10-07-2017, 21:08
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:

Bum sweat poisoning :p

Jan
10-07-2017, 21:29
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:
Yes - I spotted that at the time and wondered why Rafa needed help!

Caro
10-07-2017, 21:40
Everyone seems delighted Rafa's out, well not me! I wanted that Rafa v Andy semi :crying::crying:

Thank goodness for Andy otherwise there would be no one left on the men's side for me at this Wimby. All my other faves who were left went out today. Go Andy!!!

WimbledonWestie
10-07-2017, 21:48
Disappointed Zverev lost, he was really sporting on Saturday. He mishit a return which hit someone in crowd. He immediately checked the man was ok and then told his opponent to have a first serve (the serve he mishit was a fault) due to the delay. The poor man who got whacked got given the offending ball as a souvenir.

Caro
10-07-2017, 21:54
Disappointed Zverev lost, he was really sporting on Saturday. He mishap a return which hit someone in crowd. He immediately checked the man was ok and then told his opponent to have a first serve (the serve he miahitwas a fault) due to the delay. The poor man who got whacked got given the offending ball as a souvenir.
Yes, I wanted him to win too.

ljs
10-07-2017, 21:56
This from an interview Federer gave to Swiss media yesterday. Be surprised Rog. :p

Roger can be wrong , shocking

HoopGirl
10-07-2017, 22:05
What a gripping match!
And what a test of nerve - congrats Muller the slayer of not just Nadal but basically all of the the Wimbledon crowd too!
For a moment I thought - like Caro - it would be great to see a Nadal- Murray match up but then I thought - nah - just go for it Muller! And he did!

JAMES4578
10-07-2017, 23:21
As well as Muller played and he was a deserving winner in a such a tight final set over Nadal may be challenging to perform at highest level on Wednesday, think Cilic is the clear favourite for that quarter.

karanga
10-07-2017, 23:59
Everyone seems delighted Rafa's out, well not me! I wanted that Rafa v Andy semi :crying::crying:

Thank goodness for Andy otherwise there would be no one left on the men's side for me at this Wimby. All my other faves who were left went out today. Go Andy!!!

I too am sad that Rafa is out. :crying: I would have liked to have seen an Andy/Rafa semifinal as well.

If it wasn't for Andy I'd have no interest in the men's singles as all my other favourites went out.

Come on Andy!!!

jagmad
11-07-2017, 01:01
What did Nadal's last servant die of? (https://twitter.com/R9Rai/status/884486316288868354) :big grin:

My favourite quote below was:

He must have hurt his arm after pickin his undies out of his **** for the millionth time

patlowe
11-07-2017, 07:33
It is a pity that there has to be a loser in a match like that but thank you to both men for giving us such a thrilling match. I was astounded at the resilience and tenacity shown by both of them, Muller for holding his nerve by continuing to serve impressively and thereby keeping the pressure on Nadal who in turn defended game after game whilst under such scoreboard pressure. And also to Rafa for getting the match to a fifth set. I'm sure we will get our Andy/Rafa match eventually. There's Rogers Cup, Cinci and US Open still to come! For now I'm happy with things to date.

Hawkeye
11-07-2017, 11:17
Are they keeping the roof closed all day?

roytennisfan
11-07-2017, 11:21
Are they keeping the roof closed all day?

Guess it will be with heavy rain expected from mid afternoon onwards

ljs
11-07-2017, 12:05
what a dud this djoko match is

Naomi
11-07-2017, 12:07
Got on Centre in time to see Dimitrov v Federer yesterday, thoroughly enjoyed watching them. :) Only wish the match had gone on for longer (and that Dimi had won!)
Then stopped by the hill and it was absolutely rammed for Nadal v Muller - what a match that must have been! Pleased for Muller.

Interesting scenario now for Andy getting to the final....:)

what a dud this djoko match is

Hope it turns into more of a contest somehow....

andyfer
11-07-2017, 12:15
In Cala D'or, Majorca on hols at the moment. Visiting the Caves of Drach in a couple of days which are in Porto Christo. According to tourist info lady this is where Rafael spends his Summers. Wonder if he'll be out on his fishing boat!

traveller7
11-07-2017, 12:24
Disappointed Zverev lost, he was really sporting on Saturday. He mishit a return which hit someone in crowd. He immediately checked the man was ok and then told his opponent to have a first serve (the serve he mishit was a fault) due to the delay. The poor man who got whacked got given the offending ball as a souvenir.

Sounds like a very sporting guy like that. He is a good player definitely one to watch.

Josephine
11-07-2017, 12:47
Djokovic obviously disappointed with the crowd's lukewarm response to him winning 2nd set. Geed them up a bit but still not that much back. Think he is feeling a bit unloved compared to Rafa, Fed and Andy..

He does have a right to feel upset about yesterday. The schedulers should have put Fed and Andy on Ct1 as they had not been there yet. And it conspired to really bite them in the backside. Djoko could have played and probably finished his match under the roof last night if he had been scheduled there in the first place. Then it would have been fine to put Fed and Andy back on Centre on Wednesday...

Will Andy end up on Court 1 where Querrey had his greatest moment last year? Waits to be seen...

lovetennis
11-07-2017, 13:02
what a dud this djoko match is

Inver-wail just eulogising how great a match it is. Vaguely interesting mid-2nd set to the TB, but now returned to snoozefest :rolleyes:

traveller7
11-07-2017, 13:08
Wonder why the crowds arent behind Nole anymore?

lovetennis
11-07-2017, 13:12
Wonder why the crowds arent behind Nole anymore?

Were they ever? He's always been treated with respect rather than love, and he just can't get over it. I've gone to the red button to watch Jamie in the Mixed Doubles. Can't abide watching Djokovic's antics at the end of the match, which is likely very soon

Alis
11-07-2017, 13:15
Were they ever? He's always been treated with respect rather than love, and he just can't get over it. I've gone to the red button to watch Jamie in the Mixed Doubles. Can't abide watching Djokovic's antics at the end of the match, which is likely very soon

Ditto!

patlowe
11-07-2017, 13:18
Inver-wail just eulogising how great a match it is. Vaguely interesting mid-2nd set to the TB, but now returned to snoozefest :rolleyes:

Maybe he meant game???

Bardot
11-07-2017, 13:48
Quarter-Finals:

Andy [1] v Querrey [24]
Muller [16] v Cilic [7]
Raonic [6] v Federer [3]
Berdych [11] v Djokovic [2]

Djokovic finally plays a seed. :p

JAMES4578
11-07-2017, 13:50
Became competitive at tail end of 2nd when it seemed like procession , pity Mannarino couldn't take his chance there but not really teate great thus far.Hopefully a real contest with Berdych.

traveller7
11-07-2017, 14:15
Is he still doing that sweeping hands thing to all four sides of the court that does annoy me slightly

Naomi
11-07-2017, 14:26
Yes he did it...
I've always struggled to warm to him...like when he won the 2nd set, he did a muted response for a couple of seconds and then a big roar!? Anyway, hopefully it'll be a good match-up between him and Berdych.

RosieBear
11-07-2017, 15:18
Everyone seems delighted Rafa's out, well not me! I wanted that Rafa v Andy semi :crying::crying:


Aw Caro :grouphug: friends being disappointed is my one sadness at Rafa's departure.:sad: - but Rafa bagged virtually all of the massive amount of clay points available, it is kind of nice to see grass courters like Gilles, and Lopez at Queen's, have their moment and also keep that style alive. Hope you're feeling better today.X

cazza99
11-07-2017, 16:05
I was cheering Rafa on too Caro and was looking forward to a possible Rafa vs Andy semi.

cazza99
11-07-2017, 18:27
oop for Wednesday - http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule17.html

Linda
11-07-2017, 19:59
Andy & Fed on Centre again? What has happened to the old Wimbledon policy of making everyone play at least once on Court 1? It shot them in the foot yesterday, with the match of the tournament on Ct 1, and not being able to get Djoko' s match played.

JennieF
11-07-2017, 20:11
Yes he did it...
I've always struggled to warm to him...like when he won the 2nd set, he did a muted response for a couple of seconds and then a big roar!? Anyway, hopefully it'll be a good match-up between him and Berdych.

I'll be cheering Tomás! Obviously.

Naomi
11-07-2017, 22:12
Andy & Fed on Centre again? What has happened to the old Wimbledon policy of making everyone play at least once on Court 1? It shot them in the foot yesterday, with the match of the tournament on Ct 1, and not being able to get Djoko' s match played.

I know, I am surprised it's the same thing again with Andy and Roger on Centre! But then again, in one sense it's no surprise that they are on Centre - but I thought they would mix it up a bit, even the order with Roger being on last again.

Speedy Hawk
12-07-2017, 08:51
Lol. I not surprised Andy and Roger on centre court again. Andy is British and best British player and won Wimbledon and good Wimbledon record last 10 years and Roger is 7 time Wimbledon champion and trying get 8th Wimbledon and he 35 years old, not much time see him before he get too old and retire. So they more popular than other players and make sense put them centre court.

Back then when Tim Henman playing there more top popular players like Tim Henman, Pete Sampras (near end of career when next generation come), Roger Federer, Andy Roddick, David Nalbandian, Hewitt, James Blake, etc, etc. Lot more option so switch centre court and court 1. Now there only Andy Murray, Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal most popular. Nole well liked but not like other 3 at Wimbledon.

Caro
12-07-2017, 11:47
Aw Caro :grouphug: friends being disappointed is my one sadness at Rafa's departure.:sad: - but Rafa bagged virtually all of the massive amount of clay points available, it is kind of nice to see grass courters like Gilles, and Lopez at Queen's, have their moment and also keep that style alive. Hope you're feeling better today.X
Bless you RB :grouphug: I was really gutted Rafa lost (and all my other faves also went out)! but I understand that not everyone is a fan. This is Andy's forum so of course we are all going to have different 'other' favourite players. I do like Gilles so I am grudgingly happy for him he played a great match ;):big grin:

Teresa
12-07-2017, 11:57
I'll be cheering Tomás! Obviously.


Painful as it is, I will be on his side as well. Actually I could live with him winning it. Better Master Berdych than Federer, Cillic or Djokovic if AM can't.

Probably my order is
Murray
Muller
Raonic
Berdych
Djokovic
Cillic
Federer

Although it's a toss up between Berdych and Raonic, and Cillic and Federer. Federer will be unbearable if he wins again. I am not sure I have enough vomit available.

JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 12:59
Muller getting the better of Cilic thus far,taking first 6-3 and 1-1 in 2nd though Nadal match may eventually take its toll-Cilic takes 2nd on TB. Think Muller and Berdych the ones with the least chance of taking the title, realistic contenders Federer, Andy , Djokovic plus with outside chance Cilic and Raonic.

traveller7
12-07-2017, 15:09
Muller fighting still serving with a break to take fourth set

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 15:17
C'mon Muller. Would be great to see him win this one

JerryD
12-07-2017, 15:20
Andy & Fed on Centre again? What has happened to the old Wimbledon policy of making everyone play at least once on Court 1? It shot them in the foot yesterday, with the match of the tournament on Ct 1, and not being able to get Djoko' s match played.

As much as I love Andy I have to say I didn't agree with this. Given that djoko ended up losing a day it's been more important that they didn't take any chances today. He could end up delayed again by rain or fading light. Really unfair. Berdy has the upper hand in having a day off and then they took the risk again. He hasn't complained. though I would have done.

I too was gutted with the Raffa result. We were feeling lucky to be a part of it on court 1 but wishing we weren't watching live when he lost. We shouted our heads off but it didn't help. Watching the match live Raffa was the better player. He made big mistakes at bad times. I love to see the big guys involved at the end so losing Raffa after losing Tsonga, delpo and zverev was gutting.

I know milos do ant have a huge number of fans but I really like him so I'd like to see him in the final. He is a great guy, a great player and he has had such a hard year. He has made a lot of changes and put in a lot of work. I really hope he can make it. I'd like to see him face djoko in the semi. Have a really competitive match. I think I'd like to see raonic win it but I won't know for sure until we get there.

Hoping for a great match between Berdy and djoko too :)

JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 15:21
Well Muller takes 4th 7-5, still might be tough for him though.

JerryD
12-07-2017, 15:24
Still shouting for Muller in this one though :)

JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 15:25
Seems to be turning again though, Cilic up 3-0 in decider- whilst prefer Muller Marin may perform better v Sam.

JerryD
12-07-2017, 15:27
Gutted. Watching fed v raonic. Great start from milos. Had a Serve of 140 and holds the record of the fastest serve this tournie at 142 from a previous match

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 15:32
Looking like it' going to be Cilic v Querrey in the semi. 5-0 to Cilic in the 5th, may as well switch over to Raonic v Fed.

Caro
12-07-2017, 15:37
Looking like it' going to be Cilic v Querrey in the semi. 5-0 to Cilic in the 5th, may as well switch over to Raonic v Fed.
Whoever would have picked that at the start of the tourney?

patlowe
12-07-2017, 15:38
But hasn't Muller done really well...another 5 setter challenge! I guess it's the end of the road for him too but what a Wimbledon he has had. If Fed and Djok both lose today, :shelebrate: wouldn't that open up a whole can of worms!! Dream on!!

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 15:43
Now who do I want to win ...Raonic or Fed? Always found Raonic a bit boring like most big servers, but my aversion to Fed's smugness is an issue too. I do fear for Raonic though, Fed will not have taken kindly to losing to him last year and that usually spurs him on to play perfectly (just like he did against Andy in 2015 - he's never forgiven Andy for beating him in 2012 Olympic final)...and on that note he breaks Raonic for a 3-2 lead

traveller7
12-07-2017, 15:48
Now Muller is out want Querry and raonic to win. But I predicted a fed v nadal final now I think fed v cilic

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:03
Very close first set but sadly not to be for raonic and now a break down in the second too :(

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 16:09
Now Muller is out want Querry and raonic to win. But I predicted a fed v nadal final now I think fed v cilic

Yes I think it will be Fed v Cilic most likely. If this happens I'll probably side with Fed - and just have to overlook his smugness in favour of his sublime talent

Reef
12-07-2017, 16:21
I really don't want Fed to win, the thought of all the media reports of how brilliantly he has managed his body over the years is unbearable. Maybe there's some truth in this, but luck has been a large part of why he has had so few injuries by comparison with the majority of his contemporaries. He's a very lucky guy in many respects. Note to self to "mute" Ms Croft in particular, should he go on to win.

traveller7
12-07-2017, 16:25
Drugs cheat v smugness not bothered either way though hopefully will be a contest!

JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 16:25
After Fed got the break just been superior in all departments, hoped for closer match but Roger in a rich vein of form and looking likely to win again.

ljs
12-07-2017, 16:27
Milos is getting trounced :crying:

Feds really got the swagger going doesnt he

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:28
Yes I think it will be Fed v Cilic most likely. If this happens I'll probably side with Fed - and just have to overlook his smugness in favour of his sublime talent

I wouldn't. I'm not in support of people being able to take months off for no injury but just to refresh. It's unfair to players who turn up day in day out. Having an injury is different but fed planned both his recent absences months in advance with no injuries. We could end up having lots of player doing the same. The trophy shouldn't go to the ones who had the most time off. So talent or not I don't want the reward for skipping the hard work others put in to be a trophy in a major.

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:29
Drugs cheat v smugness not bothered either way though hopefully will be a contest!

At least cilic has been putting the work in of late. Not been off for no reason

ljs
12-07-2017, 16:33
Jerry , Im with you
I dont understand , Are certain tournaments not mandatory ?
Did Fed say he was injured ? If he wasnt , why was he allowed to skip tournaments then ? Does he just pay the fines ?

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 16:34
Jerry , Im with you
I dont understand , Are certain tournaments not mandatory ?
Did Fed say he was injured ? If he wasnt , why was he allowed to skip tournaments then ? Does he just pay the fines ?

Over 30's players get a concession and can play less, which Fed has certainly taken advantage of as Jerry says

ljs
12-07-2017, 16:35
ahh I see lovetennis , I learned something , didnt know that

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 16:38
ahh I see lovetennis , I learned something , didnt know that

I didn't either until after Fed won the Aussie Open in January and people started talking about him giving the clay court season a miss - which he went on to do and is now reaping the reward - he is thrashing Raonic

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:40
Yeah it's a combination of age and matches played on the tour. You can then drop out of mandatory tournaments. I don't think it should apply at all or at least maybe you can't enter the majors if you've dropped a certain amount of other tournie s. It's one thing to use it for rest in general and another to use it to only play the majors, or to focus in on certain ones. I don't think its appropriate to miss the entire clay season including the French open and then be allowed to enter wimbie.

Josephine
12-07-2017, 16:43
Are slams mandatory?

Serena did this too. Good way to play into mid-thirties. Andy may need to try it!

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:44
I think Andy has to much credibility and dedication to the game to pull that rubbish. Retire or don't

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 16:45
Are slams mandatory?



Mustn't be - Fed missed RG without declaring an injury

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:45
Watching djoko Berdy. Very close. Berdy serving to take the first set to a tie break!

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 16:46
Meanwhile Berdy & Djok heading for a 1st set TB by the looks of it

ljs
12-07-2017, 16:46
Just been sitting thinking about it , and I dont like that at all

That makes it a unfair playing field imo

Josephine
12-07-2017, 16:47
I think Andy has to much credibility and dedication to the game to pull that rubbish. Retire or don't

That is a bit over the top! Sorry but I think Andy may well play a bit less in the future. He has often said he wants to play as long as possible. He can do what he wants - I'm sure he will decide that by himself not based on what others may think.

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:48
Mustn't be - Fed missed RG without declaring an injury

They are but as stated above if you are over 30 and have played so many matches you are exempt from having to play events that are mandatory to everyone else.

JerryD
12-07-2017, 16:56
That is a bit over the top! Sorry but I think Andy may well play a bit less in the future. He has often said he wants to play as long as possible. He can do what he wants.

It's really not. Skipping an entire swing so you can win wimbie. Is not the same as dropping the odd tournie. I can't see Andy skipping a clay court season with no injury to win.

ljs
12-07-2017, 17:02
Has this always been the rules , or is this something fairly new ??

JerryD
12-07-2017, 17:08
Was just about to say how much longer can djoko go on like this. His serving is getting worse. He can barely hit the ball.

exislander
12-07-2017, 17:10
Djokovic out!

JerryD
12-07-2017, 17:10
He was serving very slow but it got worse and worse. Before anyone starts about withdrawals I really don't want to see anyone end their career by playing on an injury that dangerous. It's a shame for djoko. I wish him a good recovery. Berdy had this match anyway he has been playing so well. I hope he finally gets himself a gs

Jan
12-07-2017, 17:11
Haven't been watching Djoko.
Retired, so Berdy through.

ljs
12-07-2017, 17:11
I hope Berdie can too , but Im not too hopeful to be honest

JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 17:13
So now Djokovic retires, had seen much of it yet but obviously struggling and a dramatic day!

JerryD
12-07-2017, 17:16
So now Djokovic retires, had seen much of it yet but obviously struggling and a dramatic day!

It just got worse and worse. It wasn't nice to watch.

JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 17:18
He was serving very slow but it got worse and worse. Before anyone starts about withdrawals I really don't want to see anyone end their career by playing on an injury that dangerous. It's a shame for djoko. I wish him a good recovery. Berdy had this match anyway he has been playing so well. I hope he finally gets himself a gs

Pity for Novak but Credit to Berdy for his play and may have had a shot anyway, however think chances of him winning Wimbledon remote. Obviously you can make point about Fed missing whole clay court season but older players do need to be a bit more selective in their schedules .

dewster99
12-07-2017, 17:19
Fed will walk this now. Not played anyone decent on the way either

WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 17:23
older players do need to a bit more selective in their schedules .

Problem is tour rules and need to protect rankings to help with draws in tournaments

pabbers
12-07-2017, 17:25
Yup this one is Fed's.

WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 17:27
Roger being snidely re injuries??? His body kept him going?

Speedy Hawk
12-07-2017, 17:29
I am glad Roger still in after Andy out. At least I have someone to watch still.

Josephine
12-07-2017, 17:30
Well this day got better and better for Fed. Beats Raonic. Murray out. Djokovic out. Berdy in the semi. Probably Cilic in the final. He must be fancying his chances.

He looks the best by far. having said that I have only seen Cilic play about one point.

So Wimbly didn't quite get the semi-finals they were hoping for.

I have to be out for work all day on Sunday - so now a bit relieved I can't watch final!! May record and skip through later.

Stell
12-07-2017, 17:31
I heard Novak was having a problem with his shoulder yesterday.

Naomi
12-07-2017, 17:32
Interesting last 4 eh! I'm rooting for Berdych now.

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 17:32
Roger being snidely re injuries??? His body kept him going?

I think he missed the irony of what he had said :rolleyes:

JerryD
12-07-2017, 17:34
Pity for Novak but Credit to Berdy for his play and may have had a shot anyway, however think chances of him winning Wimbledon remote. Obviously you can make point about Fed missing whole clay court season but older players do need to be a bit more selective in their schedules .

There's selective and there's not putting in half the work others are making it completely unfair. He's not 40

JerryD
12-07-2017, 17:36
I heard Novak was having a problem with his shoulder yesterday.

He was. He took painkillers for it. And his serving was off. He also struggled with it at the start of the tournie and in the French. I think it could be a long term thing

Alis
12-07-2017, 17:36
Sadly, I think Fed will make mincemeat of Berdie on Friday. I hope I'm wrong though.

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 17:39
So we have Cilic v Querrey and Fed v Berdy so still looking like a Cilic v Fed final.

JerryD
12-07-2017, 17:41
Hoping for querrey Berdy lol

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 17:44
Hoping for querrey Berdy lol

Would deffo be rooting for Querrey in that scenario :strawberry:

cazza99
12-07-2017, 17:56
Has this always been the rules , or is this something fairly new ??

It's been around for a while. I think Andy has skipped one before.

Jan
12-07-2017, 17:57
I think I'm rooting for Sam!

WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 18:01
Me too

RosieBear
12-07-2017, 18:04
I like Sam but, and I know it's not likely he'll get past Fed, I'm hoping for a Berdy overall win. Like JWT, the guy has plugged away and gone deep in slams for years, just always pipped by the big 4. If he could grab this title I honestly think it would mean more to him than anyone else left in. C'mon Tomas!

clancy
12-07-2017, 18:10
I'm not rooting for any of them! Once I realised early on that Andy was not going to make it through the tournament I hoped that one of the young guns (preferably Thiem) would make it through but obviously none of them are ready yet to step up. I honestly don't care who wins so good luck to them all (perhaps not to Fed - he already has all the luck in the world!).

cazza99
12-07-2017, 18:11
oop for Thursday - http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/schedule18.html

traveller7
12-07-2017, 18:45
I like Sam but, and I know it's not likely he'll get past Fed, I'm hoping for a Berdy overall win. Like JWT, the guy has plugged away and gone deep in slams for years, just always pipped by the big 4. If he could grab this title I honestly think it would mean more to him than anyone else left in. C'mon Tomas!


Totally agree.

patlowe
12-07-2017, 19:16
Of the so-called 'big four', only one left standing! I'll say no more!

Rosalind
12-07-2017, 19:58
I'm for anyone but Fedders now but I think if I have to pick one, I'm going to actually go for Cilic. He did so well at Queens only to lose at last post and whilst I don't watch him as a norm, he seems like a nice guy. I think he has the most chance of beating Feds too.

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 20:16
I'm for anyone but Fedders now but I think if I have to pick one, I'm going to actually go for Cilic. He did so well at Queens only to lose at last post and whilst I don't watch him as a norm, he seems like a nice guy. I think he has the most chance of beating Feds too.

Yes I agree, out of the remaining players Cilic has the best chance of beating Fed. Don't think Berdy stands a chance in the SF (H2H is 18-6 in Fed's favour), and fear Querrey would feel overwhelmed in a first time GS final

I just want a decent match for the final as I'm going and as it's not Andy I would like a decent match, not one of those Federer matches that just turns into a 3 set procession (like today against Milos). Cilic is the best hope of giving him a match I think. At least his 1 win against Fed was in a GS, though that's his only win against 6 losses

Caro
12-07-2017, 20:42
I'd like to see Berdych win 100%. He's been to the final before and been flying under the radar but playing well the whole tournament. Cilic also playing really well and just praying one of them can beat Fed ...

Sallydaisy
12-07-2017, 20:42
ABF.
:shades:

WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 21:18
Cilic just one slam behind Andy? I know it's not rational and shouldn't matter..... but don't fancy it.

themass15
12-07-2017, 21:24
Cilic just one slam behind Andy? I know it's not rational and shouldn't matter..... but don't fancy it.

Ah but he hasn't won the Davis Cup or two Olympic Gold Medals or anywhere like the number of tournaments

Alis
12-07-2017, 21:34
I'm certainly not a Fed fan but if he does win it will be an amazing achievement. I haven't watched any of his matches but, judging by the results against Dimitrov and Raonic, it sound as though he is playing brilliantly. Perhaps if he wins another Wimbledon, he'll finally call it a day!;)

Rosalind
12-07-2017, 21:35
Ah but he hasn't won the Davis Cup or two Olympic Gold Medals or anywhere like the number of tournaments

That's right and I factored his career wins to date into my decision. But I'm perfectly ok with Tomas or Sam. Let's hope for good match for the spectators too.

lovetennis
12-07-2017, 21:43
I'm certainly not a Fed fan but if he does win it will be an amazing achievement. I haven't watched any of his matches but, judging by the results against Dimitrov and Raonic, it sound as though he is playing brilliantly. Perhaps if he wins another Wimbledon, he'll finally call it a day!;)

I think this is why I'm edging towards supporting him at the Final (can't believe I'm saying this :shocked:) though I do agree with JerryD's view that playing effectively part-time is galling, albeit within the ATP rules. Obviously whoever I support I won't be in full-on Andy-supporting mode but don't like watching a live match while disengaged from the outcome. Maybe I'll just go with how I feel on the day

ljs
12-07-2017, 21:44
I'm certainly not a Fed fan but if he does win it will be an amazing achievement. I haven't watched any of his matches but, judging by the results against Dimitrov and Raonic, it sound as though he is playing brilliantly. Perhaps if he wins another Wimbledon, he'll finally call it a day!;)

Thats what Im hoping for too Alis , but he thrives on the adoration so it might not happen

themass15
12-07-2017, 21:48
No such luck

JerryD
12-07-2017, 22:08
I'm certainly not a Fed fan but if he does win it will be an amazing achievement. I haven't watched any of his matches but, judging by the results against Dimitrov and Raonic, it sound as though he is playing brilliantly. Perhaps if he wins another Wimbledon, he'll finally call it a day!;)

Not when he can continue playing half the season to win more majors

Alis
12-07-2017, 22:25
Well let's hope he calls it a day when he wins 20 and, with that in mind, I hope it happens sooner rather than later!

Rosalind
12-07-2017, 22:31
:crying::crying:No !!!! I can't stand the thought of his fans gloating. Anyone but Fed. I would have only favoured him over Djokovic to have Andy retain no 1.

goldfish
12-07-2017, 22:38
Unusually, Berdych for me for reasons stated by others. How can he become more popular when he rarely gets on the big stage. I've not been a huge fan of his previously but just think it would be a great reward for a pretty good career.

Josephine
12-07-2017, 23:17
I agree.

Don't like Querrey for various reasons, so hope Cilic beats him and he can at least give Fed a fight hopefully.

Sadly a bit hard to see Berdych really challening Fed but you never know.

karanga
13-07-2017, 12:17
I cannot believe that one of the commentators [Petchey???] referred to Fed as being the Michelangelo of tennis. :grrr:

I think the commentators are going ott in their adulation of Federer. They seem to forget that Federer took an extended break from the sport and has come into a Wimbledon unaffected by a tough clay court season. Nor has he had to adjust to a transition from clay to grass.

I watched the highlights of Fed's match and was sickened by what I saw. I really felt for Milos having to play that match where the crowd cheered every point won by their hero. It was a really nasty match if you supported Milos who did reach the final last year.

lovetennis
13-07-2017, 12:32
I cannot believe that one of the commentators [Petchey???] referred to Fed as being the Michelangelo of tennis. :grrr:

I think the commentators are going ott in their adulation of Federer. They seem to forget that Federer took an extended break from the sport and has come into a Wimbledon unaffected by a tough clay court season. Nor has he had to adjust to a transition from clay to grass.

I watched the highlights of Fed's match and was sickened by what I saw. I really felt for Milos having to play that match where the crowd cheered every point won by their hero. It was a really nasty match if you supported Milos who did reach the final last year.

Yes it was Petchey who made the Michaelangelo comparison . It's funny how some people just don't see the smug side of Fed. I work with someone, who knows a lot about tennis and watches a great deal and was amazed when I expressed my opinion of his smugness. "I just don't see it" he kept saying. Yet plenty of others do. My Mum and Aunt took against him years ago when he started strutting around the baseline during matches. For me, it was the silly "King Roger" outfits he started wearing in his pomp, and then he was disrespectful to Andy which put me right off him. Having said that I understand that people admire his undoubted talent and attractive playing style

Alis
13-07-2017, 13:11
I wonder if Petch has ever actually seen the Sistine Chapel.;)

RosieBear
13-07-2017, 13:13
Yes it was Petchey who made the Michaelangelo comparison . It's funny how some people just don't see the smug side of Fed. I work with someone, who knows a lot about tennis and watches a great deal and was amazed when I expressed my opinion of his smugness. "I just don't see it" he kept saying. Yet plenty of others do. My Mum and Aunt took against him years ago when he started strutting around the baseline during matches. For me, it was the silly "King Roger" outfits he started wearing in his pomp, and then he was disrespectful to Andy which put me right off him. Having said that I understand that people admire his undoubted talent and attractive playing style

I think some people see the smugness but just don't mind it. I'm one of them. I like all kinds of personalities, all I want is for a person to be genuine - Fed comes across as being very pleased with himself, and I think he is very pleased with himself - I don't sense any inconsistency :big grin: What others (commies, obsessives etc) say about him doesn't really bother me either as I just think it's not his fault. As for his game, I love it because I love to watch the grass courters but beyond that Fed is quite simply the most naturally talented player I've ever watched. I respect what Serena has achieved at Wimbledon but there's no getting away from the fact that, at 14/15 stone of pure muscle, she isn't built like the average woman, and sheer power does play a part (in addition to athleticism and determination). Fed isn't like that - he's an averagely built guy who has got what he's got due to extraordinary talent. For me he's like Pele, Michael Jordan etc, just in another level, and I really enjoy watching him. That said, I'm no diehard Fedhead, and will be rooting for Tomas tomorrow :)

JerryD
13-07-2017, 13:26
I think some people see the smugness but just don't mind it. I'm one of them. I like all kinds of personalities, all I want is for a person to be genuine - Fed comes across as being very pleased with himself, and I think he is very pleased with himself - I don't sense any inconsistency :big grin: What others (commies, obsessives etc) say about him doesn't really bother me either as I just think it's not his fault. As for his game, I love it because I love to watch the grass courters but beyond that Fed is quite simply the most naturally talented player I've ever watched. I respect what Serena has achieved at Wimbledon but there's no getting away from the fact that, at 14/15 stone of pure muscle, she isn't built like the average woman, and sheer power does play a part (in addition to athleticism and determination). Fed isn't like that - he's an averagely built guy who has got what he's got due to extraordinary talent. For me he's like Pele, Michael Jordan etc, just in another level, and I really enjoy watching him. That said, I'm no diehard Fedhead, and will begin rooting for Tomas tomorrow :)


More than smugness or dodgy comments he's made in the past, taking points he knows aren't his or sly remarks during play, what really gets me is the taking months off to win set tournies. I can never be behind a player who does that. It might be within the rules, but so are a lot of things. It doesn't make them right. And it makes him a less deserving winner. Having a injury is one thing. Having around 8 months off out of the past 12 to rest and work on your game is different.

Come on Thomas!!!

rimarli
13-07-2017, 13:29
PhilemoN was waiting to pick me up after the Davis Cup match at Queens he was talking to a policeman who officiated at Wimbledon. He told him that Federer disappointed him as he was rude and arrogant. He said that his wife had always said this about Federer but up until that year he had always said what a nice person Federer was.

patlowe
13-07-2017, 13:34
Like Anna, I too am no diehard Fedhead, but I do consider that we have been very privileged to actually have been part of an era when we were able to witness possibly one of the greatest players ever playing. Down the line, when all his feats are recorded in history, we will be able to say 'I was part of that! I saw it!' Yes I know he has his 'downside', though I do wonder if it's the reaction of his OTT fans and the sycophantic journos which sicken us more than the man himself? I also respect his attitude to wife and family. They are clearly very close and it's good to see. And I very much agree with your comments about Serena, Anna. She's no Bueno.

lovetennis
13-07-2017, 13:46
Like Anna, I too am no diehard Fedhead, but I do consider that we have been very privileged to actually have been part of an era when we were able to witness possibly one of the greatest players ever playing. Down the line, when all his feats are recorded in history, we will be able to say 'I was part of that! I saw it!' Yes I know he has his 'downside', though I do wonder if it's the reaction of his OTT fans and the sycophantic journos which sicken us more that the man himself? I also respect his attitude to wife and family. They are clearly very close and it's good to see. And I very much agree with your comments about Serena, Anna. She's no Bueno

Good point Pat. I do think he is the greatest player ever - which is why I'm considering supporting him in the final (if he gets there, which seems likely - sorry Tomas) and it would be a historic moment to witness an 8th Wimbledon title. Sampras bored me to tears so I'd be quite happy to see someone overtake his 7 Wimby titles.

Hawkeye
13-07-2017, 13:48
For me, it's not so much Roger too, it's the sycophancy. A few of you will know just what I had to go through to get and use a very expensive ticket for Centre for the men's quarters, but after Andy's loss, I went off to have a few drinks with roytennisfan and let his daughter use my ticket to see Roger, as I just couldn't face it.

clancy
13-07-2017, 14:14
As I guess you've realised I'm a 'anyone but Fed' person so find these comments interesting and also reassuring to know that I'm not the only one who feels strongly about him! Whilst I admire his game, afraid I have never gotten past his outrageous outfits and snide comments - sorry.

goldfish
13-07-2017, 15:04
Definitely not the only one. I think the commentators are just blinkered. They say that everyone loves Roger, can't understand why you wouldn't. I can ;-)

Stell
13-07-2017, 15:17
Querrey plays Cilic first on Centre Court tomorrow.

patlowe
13-07-2017, 15:31
For me, it's not so much Roger too, it's the sycophancy. A few of you will know just what I had to go through to get and use a very expensive ticket for Centre for the men's quarters, but after Andy's loss, I went off to have a few drinks with roytennisfan and let his daughter use my ticket to see Roger, as I just couldn't face it.

I take it that it was the adulation of the crowd rather than watching Roger that you couldn't face yesterday?

cazza99
13-07-2017, 20:17
oop for Friday - http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/scores/schedule/index.html

roytennisfan
14-07-2017, 10:37
They are but as stated above if you are over 30 and have played so many matches you are exempt from having to play events that are mandatory to everyone else.

The matches are 600 and the third skipping test is to have played qualifying events for at least 12 years which Roger also meets meaning he could skip everything but not quite since a new rule was brought in for 2017 that you can't skip an event you skipped the previous year(2016) Andy should meet all 3 in 2018

1 exemption = 1 extra event 2= 2 extra all 3 = as many as you want to

JerryD
14-07-2017, 10:44
I hope Andy doesn't taken advantage of an ability to skip 8 months in 12 to be "fresh" (Roger's words) for a major title

roytennisfan
14-07-2017, 10:44
For me, it's not so much Roger too, it's the sycophancy. A few of you will know just what I had to go through to get and use a very expensive ticket for Centre for the men's quarters, but after Andy's loss, I went off to have a few drinks with roytennisfan and let his daughter use my ticket to see Roger, as I just couldn't face it.

After a couple of drinks there was a close call between having more drinks and watching nearby matches or going to catch Bouncy "attempting to play" and giving him the stick he deserved. Bouncy lost, the match as well .....of course

Edit: Even at Wimbledon drink prices, Hawkeye and I didn't manage to drink anything like the cost of the centre court ticket

Josephine
14-07-2017, 11:05
Andy can do what he thinks best according to the rules to be sure he is fit, healthy and fresh.

Why shouldn't he do something which is totally within the rules if it is going to prolong his tennis life?

I want to see him back at Wimbledon with a chance of winning - not limping around having been forced to retire early.

themass15
14-07-2017, 11:08
Andy can do what he thinks best according to the rules to be sure he is fit, healthy and fresh.

Why shouldn't he do something which is totally within the rules if it is going to prolong his tennis life?

I want to see him back at Wimbledon with a chance of winning - not limping around having been forced to retire early.

Couldn't agree more. Whilst it is disappointing for us all not to be able to see him play, anything that will help him going forward must be good given that he is getting older in tennis terms.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 12:25
Some comment I read on here say prefer Andy not do what Roger been do. Break and come back.

I don't care if Andy do it or not. I want him play long possible and fit much possible. I want him play tennis pain free and enjoy it. If he need take 6 months off get himself back fully fit then he should do it. Rules say this allowed and remember they play every tournament they must play for 10 years or more (except withdraw with injury). I think that very very very hard work do that because tennis rely on body be fit and body are fragile so can break down easy. So I think it fair after long tennis career they deserve pick and choose after that so can keep playing.

karanga
14-07-2017, 12:37
Well the fun has started. After seeing the preamble and hearing the comments by the players themselves I'm cheering on Tomas and Marin. :strawberry:

Josephine
14-07-2017, 12:39
Oh dear 2 big servers - pretty boring. No lovely, mercurial, talented player to make it more interesting. Oh Andy...

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 12:45
Oh dear 2 big servers - pretty boring. No lovely, mercurial, talented player to make it more interesting. Oh Andy...

Yeah this 1st set isn't setting the world alight

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 12:48
No idea who win this match. I have feeling Cilic bit more edge than Querrey to win. His serve seem better (not see stats yet) and his shot seem slightly more powerful. Wait see what happen in tiebreak and onwards.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 12:59
Lady in pink hat collapse in seat. Play pause while army people take her down and out. She seem old lady (they not show face) walking very slowly down steps with 2 army people each side holding her.

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 13:07
Cilic seemed in control of breaker early on but faltered and then disruption seemed to affect him more, hopefully lady will be ok. Bp for Querrey at start of 2nd but unable to capitalise, would prefer a Marin win as think he'd be more of a test for Federer.

RosieBear
14-07-2017, 13:09
Some comment I read on here say prefer Andy not do what Roger been do. Break and come back.

I don't care if Andy do it or not. I want him play long possible and fit much possible. I want him play tennis pain free and enjoy it. If he need take 6 months off get himself back fully fit then he should do it. Rules say this allowed and remember they play every tournament they must play for 10 years or more (except withdraw with injury). I think that very very very hard work do that because tennis rely on body be fit and body are fragile so can break down easy. So I think it fair after long tennis career they deserve pick and choose after that so can keep playing.

I completely agree with you Speedy Hawk, and Josephine. The rule about being able to take breaks after meeting certain criteria exists for a reason - if it wasn't considered fair, deserved and important then players wouldn't be allowed to do it. The rules are the same for all, so I'm fine with it.

Jan62
14-07-2017, 13:16
I'm watching Querrey and Cilic, it's somewhat relaxing (if very very tedious) as I don't really care which of them wins. My pettiness gets the better of me as I don't want Sam to get to final. He shouldn't even be in the SF and wouldn't have been if our lovely Andy had been fit. And I don't want Cilic to have a chance of a 2nd Slam, just one behind Andy. Doesn't seem right! I know, I know it's very petty!

As for the other match, I will not be watching. Between the Fed fans and the commies it would put me right off my Friday G&T 😂 To watch Fed is to witness something very beautiful and balletic. But I can't stand the man. I'd be willing to do a deal with the devil and let him have his 8th Wimbledon IF he would b***** off and retire afterwards. Sadly I don't see that happening any time soon, he's found the magic formula of plenty of time off and just coming in to Slams. He wants to get to 20, who can blame him. I have to stop, I'm feeling a bit nauseous. ...

Josephine
14-07-2017, 13:17
Crumbs - Querrey wins the first set. Only good thing is I just take a glance every so often and can get some work done - not shaking with nerves in front of TV, as would have been with Andy playing.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 13:18
Cilic seemed in control of breaker early on but faltered and then disruption seemed to affect him more, hopefully lady will be ok. Bp for Querrey at start of 2nd but unable to capitalise, would prefer a Marin win as think he'd be more of a test for Federer.

Yeah he let that distract him. Still hard to say cos they even but Cilic do seem more likely break Querrey than Querrey break Cilic. If Cilic not focus and get distracted again then Query could take it from him.


I completely agree with you Speedy Hawk, and Josephine. The rule about being able to take breaks after meeting certain criteria exists for a reason - if it wasn't considered fair, deserved and important then players wouldn't be allowed to do it. The rules are the same for all, so I'm fine with it.

Yeah exactly. It same for anyone meet same criteria. :)

Caro
14-07-2017, 13:23
Come on Cilic!! Sam Querrey is soooo boring. At least Cilic has some fire about him. This serve fest is not my idea of an interesting match though ... :sleepy:

themass15
14-07-2017, 13:25
Think Querrey is running out of gas

Jan
14-07-2017, 13:33
Too busy to watch. I have watched sooo much this week, so have stuff to catch up with, but am happy sitting these 2 matches out.
Will resume my square eyes when the mixed doubles starts!

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 13:34
I think Cilic is going to power through now.

Oh no Inver-Wail already grovelling to Fed and he's not even on yet :facepalm:

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 13:36
2nd set to Cilic.

JerryD
14-07-2017, 13:41
Andy can do what he thinks best according to the rules to be sure he is fit, healthy and fresh.

Why shouldn't he do something which is totally within the rules if it is going to prolong his tennis life?

I want to see him back at Wimbledon with a chance of winning - not limping around having been forced to retire early.

Lots of things are within the rules. It doesn't make them right.

Also as I have said repeatedly I am not talking about injury. Andy is currently injured. Not was I suggesting I wanted to see him limping around. I don't think players should be allowed to play 25% in a year and still enter the majors. It's unfair to those who play week in week out. The rule needs changing. What a tennis year it would be if all the top players took 8 months of in a year to focus on 1 or 2 gs. And I didn't say he wasn't allowed to, however morally wrong it may be like many things that are morally wrong it's not against the rules. He can do as he pleases. What I said was I hope he doesn't take advantage of such a rule.
Many are against federer doing it, it would hypocritical to be against that but in favour of it for Murray.

As for a chance a Wimbledon, he doesn't need 8 months off in 12, whilst uninjured, in order to make that happen.

Josephine
14-07-2017, 13:44
The other tennis players are not allowed to take time off, so it is only a few.

Morally wrong is a total overstatement. Being unfaithful to one's wife - now that just might be.

In any case Federer has said he will play all the rest of this year. And last year he was injured - so he has not taken 8 months off based on that rule.

karanga
14-07-2017, 13:44
One set all. Come on Marin. :strawberry:

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 13:47
Cilic defo at moment most likely to win cos he keep getting break points or close on Querrey serve and Querrey can't do same Cilic serve much.

JerryD
14-07-2017, 13:49
Not been watching this match long as I was out but it's hard to pick a winner so far. I'm not really sure who I want to win either. I keep changing my mind. My friend from the wimbie queue has put money on cilic so I guess him for Adam :p

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 13:50
Cilic with only break thus far, however he failed to capitalise on 0-40 on Querrey's serve (though American came up with some big serves). Take chance this time though for 2-1 and would seem to have the momentum to take this in 4,considering Sam's route (however won't rule anything out) Commentator's curse- Querrey breaks straight back for 2 all!

RosieBear
14-07-2017, 13:52
Come on Cilic!! Sam Querrey is soooo boring. At least Cilic has some fire about him. This serve fest is not my idea of an interesting match though ... :sleepy:

Ditto. Sam's nice but dull. I like Marin, but seriously the luck of the guy...his slam win was flukey and now on the verge of first Wimbo final without facing any of the big guys (Andy, Rafa, Stan) in his half. Not his fault, but still want him to pick my lottery numbers.:big grin: Oh well, c'est la vie. Can't get interested in this semi, but looking forward to seeing if Tomas can dig deep and find a way past Fed. I hope so, bless him.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 13:52
This break happen early set compare late set (2nd set) and we see if Querrey can challenge Cilic serve get break back.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 13:54
Lol. That quicker than I expect. Querrey finally break Cilic serve! Now back even.

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 14:07
Seems this match is back on an even keel

Keeptheheid
14-07-2017, 14:12
Bit of a bore fest at the moment ��. Maybe just missing the usual excitement Andy brings. Sorry don't mean any disrespect to Marin or Sam, good luck to both. Leaning towards wanting Marin to win��

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 14:14
5-5 all. Possible tiebreak??

Alis
14-07-2017, 14:15
Is anyone else finding this match really boring? I suppose that is partly due to the fact that I'm not really too bothered who wins but it's not exactly entertaining. Roll on the mixed doubles!

WimbledonWestie
14-07-2017, 14:16
Bit of a bore fest at the moment ��. Maybe just missing the usual excitement Andy brings. Sorry don't mean any disrespect to Marin or Sam, good luck to both. Leaning towards wanting Marin to win��

We certainly didn't think, when we saw Sam last Saturday, that we'd be watching him play the semis!!

Linda
14-07-2017, 14:19
It is boring. The crowd seem bored too. Even even though it's a close match so far, which ought to make it exciting, it's not because it's mainly big serves. A match needs long rallies with all sorts of shots to make it interesting.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 14:21
It not exciting match no. I still watch it anyway cos rare me off work watch Wimbledon today TV. Tiebreak now.

Linda
14-07-2017, 14:25
Well, that was a good point that got the crowd interested. Let's have some more like that.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 14:26
Querrey blew 2 points away and Cilic just need serve it and take 3rd set.

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 14:29
Not the most enthralling contest but some good points,well Sam gave a bit away there and Cilic should press home his advantage!

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 14:31
Well, that was a good point that got the crowd interested. Let's have some more like that.

It felt like they were trying to tell the players "can we have some more of that, rather than the snoozeathon serve-fest we've suffered so far"

JerryD
14-07-2017, 14:34
I do think it's much harder to get into a match when you don't have someone you are really behind. I am trying to get behind cilic but it's not something you can force

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 14:38
Querrey break Cilic. 2-1 lead in 4th set.

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 14:41
I do think it's much harder to get into a match when you don't have someone you are really behind. I am trying to get behind cilic but it's not something you can force

Agreed, that's why I feel it necessary to pick someone to support in the Final. I realised sometime ago that watching Andy and DC matches have turned me into a tennis adrenaline-junkie, and although no-one else is going to give me that level of investment in the outcome, I do like to get into it more than just watching passively

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 14:42
May now go to a 5th, Querrey was down 15-40 but holds for 3-1.

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 14:45
If Querrey keep hold all service game in 4th set then this go 5th set. If he can't then Cilic might take 4th set.

jackie55
14-07-2017, 14:46
Had to switch over got fed up with match and McEnroe going on about how 'brilliant' Sam is especially after his 'win'
over Andy now watching a Ladies invitation doubles match with Kim Clijsters, they are having great fun:dance::dance:

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 14:53
Querrey couldn't hold on long enough get set so Cilic break back. All even now.

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 14:54
Cilic breaks back for 4-4 in the 4th set. Maybe Fed & Berdy need to start warming up

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 14:59
Cilic seized chance and holds for 5-4,so Sam will need to play well to stay in contention.

Guerkins2
14-07-2017, 15:03
Had to switch over got fed up with match and McEnroe going on about how 'brilliant' Sam is especially after his 'win'
over Andy now watching a Ladies invitation doubles match with Kim Clijsters, they are having great fun:dance::dance:
Sounds like a good idea. I'm just waiting for Jamie :GBflag::GBflag:

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 15:08
Cilic wins - happy with that, if only because I couldn't see Querrey putting up a fight in the final. Right get ready for the Fed love-in from the commies

Hawkeye
14-07-2017, 15:08
Get in Marin!

Hopefully, if he is asked in his presser if he felt Querrey tired, he says "he didn't look tired until it looked like he was losing"...

Caro
14-07-2017, 15:09
And Marin takes it .... really pleased for him, he's a nice guy. Also think he'll have a much better chance against smugFed on Sunday (unless Tomas can pull off the win today)

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 15:11
Cilic win.

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 15:11
So Cilic takes 2nd bp to seal place in the final 7-5 in the 4th, possible long final set avoided! Marin overall a step ahead today and Sam had a tough route. Think the preferable outcome for Sunday when it's highly likely to be Fed on the other side of the net!

patlowe
14-07-2017, 15:16
There you are Sam. That's what it's like to play an uninjured opponent. You get beaten! I am quite pleased. Think Cilic will provide tougher oppo on Sunday.

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 15:20
Yes thought Querrey looked quite ordinary today. No way he would have beaten a fit Andy but all academic now :crying:

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 15:21
Now time for next semis. Federer vs Berdych.

RosieBear
14-07-2017, 15:22
Good luck Tomas! (you're going to need it :hide:)

patlowe
14-07-2017, 15:27
Get in Marin!

Hopefully, if he is asked in his presser if he felt Querrey tired, he says "he didn't look tired until it looked like he was losing"...
Ha! Ha! When Cilic was asked after the match if he felt he had a psychological advantage over Sam I thought the obvious answer would have been 'I am not injured.'

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 15:31
Crowd declaring their allegiance - with a massive cheer for Fed's 1st point

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 15:35
Live text show video wheelchair singles match man called Fernandez win point by throwing his racket at ball! Hahaha.

It in 4:31pm on live text. BBC website.

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 15:38
Well at least this is more attractive to watch than the last match. C'mon Berdy

Alis
14-07-2017, 15:54
Had to switch over got fed up with match and McEnroe going on about how 'brilliant' Sam is especially after his 'win'
over Andy now watching a Ladies invitation doubles match with Kim Clijsters, they are having great fun:dance::dance:

Mac was really getting on my nerves too but then that's par for the course. Anyone who knows anything about tennis knows that Sam wouldn't have beaten a fit Andy on Centre Court at Wimbledon.

themass15
14-07-2017, 15:57
Federer looking scarily good.

RoastLamb
14-07-2017, 15:59
Watched the first, cannot watch the second. Going to take dog for walk instead. :lol:

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 15:59
Federer looking scarily good.

And Berdy is playing well but already a break down

Josephine
14-07-2017, 15:59
I think it's a shame Fed will probably win all of this without playing Stan, Rafa or a fit Novak or Andy. Who might have been able to challenge him.

But I'm sure that will hardly get a mention.

lovetennis
14-07-2017, 16:04
Feel really bad for Berdy - he gets the break back and the crowd barely give him a murmur. I know it was a DF from Fed but give Berdy some credit for getting the game

RosieBear
14-07-2017, 16:05
Tomas breaks back and forced 2DF from Fed in that game :clap: Giving his all. Keep going!

JAMES4578
14-07-2017, 16:05
Good quality set , looked like Fed very much had upper hand but Berdy breaks back and competing well.

Jane
14-07-2017, 16:07
Go Tomas!!! :thumbup::thumbup:

Speedy Hawk
14-07-2017, 16:07
BBC Live text 17:05 say Berdych have picture of Nole on his trainers. There photo. It does look like Nole. Very strange.