View Full Version : WIMBLEDON 2017 QF: Andy vs Querrey - Wednesday 1.00 pm
RosieBear
12-07-2017, 14:50
Point of no return now :sad: Roll on 2018.
I wanna give him a hug right now!!
JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 14:51
Well it's all over, Andy fighting but Querrey was so quick and will serve for it at 5-1.
Are those Fed fans cheering for Querrey? There are so many of them I can't believe they're his fans. :p
traveller7
12-07-2017, 14:51
Anyone but fed please
Do you think Mac would be as obnoxious if Querrey wasn't an American? He is an absolute nightmare.
He got much further than I was expecting. Had to turn it off. Hate to see him struggling like this. Just hope he hasn't done himself more damage.
Oh gosh, so awful to see him in pain like that. :( Hope he has a good rest and recovery now.
murrayfan89
12-07-2017, 14:54
I'm not a Fed fan but I'd rather Fed won it than Djoko.
Now that Djokovic isn't dominating anymore I don't really care much if he wins or loses. I've never been a Federer fan at anytime though.
................ but you have to ask yourself why he was so nervous. I think we all know why.
What am I missing. Why?
traveller7
12-07-2017, 14:55
He is in obviously so much pain poor guy doesn't normally show it. Fair play to Querry
lovetennis
12-07-2017, 14:55
Gutted for Andy but to get t QFs with a limp - who has managed that before!. Just hope it has not caused any further harm. Even signing autographs as he limps off, what a guy
Wallander believes Andy was heroic, playing with an injured hip.
Clearly Andy not right & clearly in pain, but I must admit I didn,t think Andy would get this far at the beginning of Wimbers, so Great Effort Mr Murray for getting this far (with clearly something wrong!)With you all the way Andy!!!!:thumbup:.....Kudos Sam!!
RosieBear
12-07-2017, 14:55
At least Sam's a nice guy.
:crying: :crying: Gutted for Andy, and hope he can get his physical issues resolved quickly
jackie55
12-07-2017, 14:56
He got much further than I was expecting. Had to turn it off. Hate to see him struggling like this. Just hope he hasn't done himself more damage.
Me too:sad::sad:
Just under 4 weeks until Montreal, is that long enough?
Wilander complementing Andy for reaching the French SF when not playing well coming in and the QF here when clearly struggling with an injury.
The pain on his face was awful. He must rest and be fit for Canada. I feel so bad for him. Hopefully the trolls will stay away.
Gutted for Andy but to get t QFs with a limp - who has managed that before!. Just hope it has not caused any further harm. Even signing autographs as he limps off, what a guy
I hope so too! Who are you hoping to see in the final now?
traveller7
12-07-2017, 14:58
I can't see Andy playing until USOpen
If Andy had been fit Sam would have lost
Exactly Mrs P. That's what I find strange. Clear to see Andy not 100% - BUT that's all the more incentive to nail that second set. If he had, then totally agree he would have dug deep for straight sets win. Instead of that happening, to my eyes anyway, I just saw Andy get yippy like I haven't seen in ages :sad:
Yes but the yips I think were down to him knowing he couldn't rely on his body to get him out of trouble. Surprised he got this fat. He may need an op like Hewitt did.
I hope he plays it over-safe in terms of when he comes back.
JAMES4578
12-07-2017, 14:59
Andy gave all he had but sad to see him go out like this, just unfortunate circumstances. of course Querrey played well to advantage in the circumstances but had Andy been in better shape would've got through. Disappointing Andy didn't take 2nd, at least didn't notice major issue at that point. Still got to give credit to Andy for reaching quarters and whilst we're gutted,such a shame for him. Now got to make sure he takes sufficient time to get things right.
lovetennis
12-07-2017, 15:01
I hope so too! Who are you hoping to see in the final now?
Very conflicted - can't stand Cilic or Djokovi so definitely not either of them. Admire Fed's play but his smug attitude annoys me. Will have to wait until after the semis and then pick a side. There's always Big Sam or Muller if I go for the underdog
themass15
12-07-2017, 15:02
So sad, men's tournament over for me now
Very conflicted - can't stand Cilic or Djokovi so definitely not either of them. Admire Fed's play but his smug attitude annoys me. Will have to wait until after the semis and then pick a side. There's always Big Sam or Muller if I go for the underdog
Sounds like a plan! Yeah I'd like to see Muller go through.
What am I missing. Why?
I believe he was tight because even at that stage he couldn't get up to serve properly, couldn't move properly and didn't have his usual power on his ground strokes. That is hugely distracting mentally. Andy knew that if it went to a long match, the injury would probably get worse rather than better. Okay - you could say that that very fact should have made him even more determined to get through in straight sets but he's human and, unfortunately, on this occasion he couldn't manage it. I am hugely proud of Andy to get as far as the quarter final without being fully fit. I just hope he takes a leaf out of Fed's book and doesn't come back until he is fully fit. Good for Querrey - he's been around a long time and deserves his moment of glory.
RosieBear
12-07-2017, 15:06
I'll miss watching him but totally agree with the call for Andy to take a prolonged break. We all love Andy most but at least we've still got another Brit still in the singles to be console ourselves and get excited about. We've never been able to say after a tough Andy slam loss :)
Much as I hate to see Andy lose, I think that maybe this was just about as far as he could go. I have to concede (having always believed Andy when he said he was fine) that he was definitely hampered today, and well done him for seeing the match through to the end. To get to the QF's with an injury was a good enough achievement. I felt his pain both physically and mentally. It makes the tournament a bit hollow without him, but there will be lots more to come I hope. So unfortunate for him to have an injury now, because I think he would have won comfortably today otherwise. But it is what it is. Go rest Andy. We're still very proud of you.
david1610
12-07-2017, 15:08
Andy was so professional and, well, Andy, in not retiring.
I posted at the time that I felt something went (or got worse) three games before the end of the second set. Andy's nerves would have been fear of his hip not lasting long enough to get three sets won.
Now he has to sort the hip out, whether that means an operation or rest. Don't worry about what anybody says. His fellow professionals will understand what he was playing through and will be full of respect for what he tried to do.
Thank you for the five matches and rest and recuperate Andy! :)
WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 15:08
Such a shame that every time he's been defending a slam title he's not been fit enough to enjoy it properly and feel he can give it his best shot tennis wise. He did the best his body would allow but we all know he would want to have done more.
Time to rest and recover now.
So much talk of injury, I know he confined it before wimbie but then said all was ok. I'm no expert but he seemed to moving in. A different way and serving much more slowly. Previously tim made out that Murray was fine but now seems to be confirming that Murray is injured. I hope that whatever it is he recovers quickly and is back to 100% soon. Sam played well. So congrats to him.
jackie55
12-07-2017, 15:09
So sad, men's tournament over for me now
Me too :sad::sad: just don't want Fed or Novak to win
WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 15:12
Bet Tim knew fine the state Andy was in- but wouldn't want to alarm the nation (or be allowed to). Very clear Andy struggling to rotate on shots.
exislander
12-07-2017, 15:13
Andy had been limping since last week but definitely worse today. He did his best and Sam was playing very well. Remember there still is a Murray in the mixed!
For me Jo Konta is confirmation that being British doesn't guarantee enthusiastic support. I wish her well but it doesn't go much further than that. #BadBrit :shamed:
The pain on his face was awful. He must rest and be fit for Canada. I feel so bad for him. Hopefully the trolls will stay away.
I will certainly stay away from the trolls.
I'll miss watching him but totally agree with the call for Andy to take a prolonged break. We all love Andy most but at least we've still got another Brit still in the singles to be console ourselves and get excited about. We've never been able to say after a tough Andy slam loss :)
No pressure Johanna!
Josephine
12-07-2017, 15:23
Very sad to see Andy go out like that. Was clearly not right even from second set and last 2 were painful to watch. But he stuck it out and tried his hardest. He could survive against the good in the earlier matches but not against the great players and Querrey was the first real test. The injury was obviously too painful to allow him to serve, run or hit his strokes properly. I think he must have known deep down he only had a slim chance of winning the whole thing, but I'm sure he really wanted to win that match to ensure he kept hold of No 1 if nothing else. All the limping was very worrying for a while and could not be dismissed.
At least I will get more work done on Friday than I had thought...
And good luck to Konta but it doesn't make up for me - am so used to Andy being last Brit standing and it hurts a bit that he isn't. But hope she does well for the crowd etc.
Wondering how much time Andy will need off - could be quite serious and is very worrying as totally impeded his game.
Yes but the yips I think were down to him knowing he couldn't rely on his body to get him out of trouble. Surprised he got this fat. He may need an op like Hewitt did.
:) Just trying to raise a wee smile to cheer us up!
I looked up hip injuries, on the internet, and there are loads of different ones. Which one is he supposed to have?
So, so sad for Andy :crying::crying::crying: And he'll give every credit to Sam who did play well. Agree that if he'd won the 2nd set he may well have been the winner today, but knowing what we know now, that his hip is clearly troubling him, there is no way he could have won the tournament.
All my faves are gone :sad: I just really really hope someone other than Djokovic or Federer can win the title ... but sadly I don't think that's likely.
Right, I'm going to dry my tears and support Jo and I won't stop watching the men, it just won't be quite the same ....
I believe he was tight because even at that stage he couldn't get up to serve properly, couldn't move properly and didn't have his usual power on his ground strokes. That is hugely distracting mentally. Andy knew that if it went to a long match, the injury would probably get worse rather than better. Okay - you could say that that very fact should have made him even more determined to get through in straight sets but he's human and, unfortunately, on this occasion he couldn't manage it. I am hugely proud of Andy to get as far as the quarter final without being fully fit. I just hope he takes a leaf out of Fed's book and doesn't come back until he is fully fit. Good for Querrey - he's been around a long time and deserves his moment of glory.
Ah - thanks. I agree with everything you have said. Unusually I don't bear Querry any ill will. He has taken his chance. Good luck to him.
My only wish now is for Federer or Cillic. not to win it. I woukd rather Djokovic took No 1 back than Federer strutting. Anyone else can have it. I think sometimes folks forget (not in here), just what an achievement it is to win Wimbledon once. Our lad has done it twice. In a way I am relieved. I could see Federer destroying him, and that would be awful.
What chance Andy does what Federer & Nadal did last year and close down his season early? It worked for them this year but then there would be a considerable drop in Andy's ranking which would mean tougher draws next year but then playing injured could have the same effect.
I feel so sad for Andy that this is the second time that he has been laid low by illness and injury after having the best run of his career - 2012/2013 and 2016. On both occasions he was playing so well, it seemed that the world was his oyster and titles would be his for the taking. It just doesn't seem fair but then life isn't fair and, when I think of players like Delpo, Soderling and Ancic, I realise how lucky we have been to share so much success with Andy. I just hope that his coaching team stick with him while he recovers - however long it takes.
I feel so sad for Andy that this is the second time that he has been laid low by illness and injury after having the best run of his career - 2012/2013 and 2016. On both occasions he was playing so well, it seemed that the world was his oyster and titles would be his for the taking. It just doesn't seem fair but then life isn't fair and, when I think of players like Delpo, Soderling and Ancic, I realise how lucky we have been to share so much success with Andy. I just hope that his coaching team stick with him while he recovers - however long it takes.
I truly thought after that run to No 1 and the slaying of Djokovic at the WTF, anything else would be a bonus. I still feel that.
I have also thought he would never go on as long as Federer. It was a miracle he returned from his back and climbed to the very top, but these things catch up with you. I do think his body is starting to fail him now. I would rather he quit whilst he was on the top, that struggle on.
Andy's press conference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GicHvlD7QGM
Maybe Andy's body just isn't as resilient as some of the other players or perhaps his style of play just takes more out of him. Having said that, he is still only just 30 - that's young in tennis terms these days. I don't think he's ready to give up yet. Hopefully, if he takes sufficient time to recover properly he will come back and climb up the rankings again. You can't keep a good man down - especially if he's called Andy Murray!!
Listening to Andy's interview - it would certainly seem he won't be playing again before the US Open at the earliest.
piscesperson
12-07-2017, 15:53
^ Love it that Andy said 'male player'
traveller7
12-07-2017, 15:58
Listening to Andy's interview - it would certainly seem he won't be playing again before the US Open at the earliest.
Still playing injury down and giving kudos to Sam like he does
lovetennis
12-07-2017, 15:58
Love Andy correcting the reporter about Sam being the first US player getting to semi of a GS since 2009 - "Male player" he corrects the reporter
'Carole Bouchard @carole_bouchard
"Andy, Sam is the first American to..", Andy : "Male player. He's the first male player". Lord, I nearly clapped.'
Well done, Andy - don't you just love him!!
Hahhaa male player. He had to get that one in :)
Still playing injury down and giving kudos to Sam like he does
That's our man!
Of course we love Andy and feel really sad for him exiting Wimbledon in the way he has.
I'm proud of Andy as only he and his circle will know what pain Andy has gone through this fortnight to reach the quarterfinals.
I hope Andy is OK and will now look after himself to get himself fit and rarin to go. :wimcry:
Good to hear Andy say "I knew I wasn't going to do any damage by playing". :thumbup:
When you think about how Andy was at Queens and just before Wimbledon, it's amazing he got as far as he did. You just know he's not going to retire unless he can't stand. To be honest, I'd rather he lost to big Sam today, having made a match of the first 2-3 sets, than to Cilic in the SF, when he would probably have been blown off the court given his physical state (if he'd even been able to start the match). Tim was talking about Andy having had an injection, so he was obviously "in the know" but quite rightly couldn't say anything before hand. What really got me was the way a certain Sue kept saying what a shock it was. It really really wasn't, Sue :grrr:
Go take a good rest, get your hip mended and enjoy family time Andy - we will still be here when you come back, to support you as ever!
Still drying my tears but relieved Andy hasn't got to put his body through any more agony because having had hip pain that is what it is. I am angry at commentators calling it a shock; don't think it is for anyone on this forum, we all knew there was something seriously wrong and he wouldn't see out the tournament; I thought he might beat Querry as he surely would at 100% fit but didn't want him having to face the likes of Cilic, Djokovic or heaven forbid Federer. It was only sheer will power that got him to the quarters. His health must come first now, I wonder if it has been taken seriously enough. My heart goes out to him as always.
I laughed when I heard the commies say " shocking loss "
like clancy said , not shocking to anyone on here , who follows Andy
As always sad hes out , but he actually did really well making the quarters imo
Josephine
12-07-2017, 16:41
Andy is obviously very disappointed in his press conference but not down hearted I think. He did his best and he can't do more.
Do hope this injury improves and we can finally get the real Andy back.
(sorry posted on the wrong thread before)
dewster99
12-07-2017, 16:52
From what andy said after I think he's done brilliantly to make it this far especially some longer matches in there too. Also to do what he's done in his career with this issue since he was 22/23
Listening to Andy's interview - it would certainly seem he won't be playing again before the US Open at the earliest.
He didn't say that. In fact he said anything but. He said he will be back to work tomorrow. He did say he would do what it takes whether that be a rest, rehab or working harder. We will see, but what you heard is not what I heard ...
supergran
12-07-2017, 16:56
Like everyone on here I am so proud of Andy's efforts in reaching the quarters with a debilitating injury. He such a warrior but it was very sad to see this brave champion giving of his best whilst obviously struggling. I'm relieved that he's not playing any more matches and meeting players who have been either under suspicion or taken a long break for no apparent reason. Thank God he has Kim and Sophia and his dogs to give him comfort. Just want him to rest and mend, physically and mentally and come back fit and well. Love our Andy and wish him a full recovery.
He didn't say that. In fact he said anything but. He said he will be back to work tomorrow. He did say he would do what it takes whether that be a rest, rehab or working harder. We will see, but what you heard is not what I heard ...
I didn't get that from his press conference but from an interview he had with - I think - Sam Smith. In that he said that he would sit down with his team tomorrow and discuss what he was going to do. He went on to say that it was six weeks 'til the US Open and the implication was that that was his goal. When asked whether he would have played if it hadn't been Wimbledon, he said that he would have played any of the Majors which rather implied he wouldn't have played it it wasn't a Major. I may well have interpreted it wrongly but that was certainly what he said.
As others have said, I too would rather that Andy went out to Sam, who played well and didn't let Andy's discomfort affect his concentration, rather than to Cilic or Fed. I was never convinced that he was ok despite his denials as his lateral movement and serving speed just weren't near his usual standard. Time to give your body a proper rest, Andy. Sheer determination if not cussedness got you to the Quarters so be proud of that cos we all are.
I didn't get that from his press conference but from an interview he had with - I think - Sam Smith. In that he said that he would sit down with his team tomorrow and discuss what he was going to do. He went on to say that it was six weeks 'til the US Open and the implication was that that was his goal. When asked whether he would have played if it hadn't been Wimbledon, he said that he would have played any of the Majors which rather implied he wouldn't have played it it wasn't a Major. I may well have interpreted it wrongly but that was certainly what he said.
Yes that's how I heard it. (It was Clare Balding interviewing.)
WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 17:20
My thoughts too- would give it all for a slam but wouldn't risk it on a tour event.
mickeypops
12-07-2017, 17:21
Djoko retires hurt from his QF, Andy will stay number 1, at least for now!
HoopGirl
12-07-2017, 17:25
Sad, sad, sad.
traveller7
12-07-2017, 17:30
Sad way to go out. This is Feds championship to lose I feel.
supergran
12-07-2017, 17:48
I didn't get that from his press conference but from an interview he had with - I think - Sam Smith. In that he said that he would sit down with his team tomorrow and discuss what he was going to do. He went on to say that it was six weeks 'til the US Open and the implication was that that was his goal. When asked whether he would have played if it hadn't been Wimbledon, he said that he would have played any of the Majors which rather implied he wouldn't have played it it wasn't a Major. I may well have interpreted it wrongly but that was certainly what he said.
I heard that. He mentioned only the time between now and US Open which made me think a break was on the cards.
traveller7
12-07-2017, 17:50
I heard that. He mentioned only the time between now and US Open which made me think a break was on the cards.
I think it would be very wise
angiebabez
12-07-2017, 18:08
I really dont think we will see him b4 US open. Proud of his fight . Rest & heal dear andy. Love u always x
Yes that's how I heard it. (It was Clare Balding interviewing.)
That's what I heard too!
When you think about how Andy was at Queens and just before Wimbledon, it's amazing he got as far as he did. You just know he's not going to retire unless he can't stand. To be honest, I'd rather he lost to big Sam today, having made a match of the first 2-3 sets, than to Cilic in the SF, when he would probably have been blown off the court given his physical state (if he'd even been able to start the match). Tim was talking about Andy having had an injection, so he was obviously "in the know" but quite rightly couldn't say anything before hand. What really got me was the way a certain Sue kept saying what a shock it was. It really really wasn't, Sue :grrr:
Go take a good rest, get your hip mended and enjoy family time Andy - we will still be here when you come back, to support you as ever!
Did anyone else hear what else a certain Sue said after the match today? After commenting that Andy clearly was hampered by an injury today, 'certain Sue' then quoted his serving stats and went on to say that wasn't good enough and that you can't win slams serving like that! :angry: For flip sake Sue, you had just said he was injured!! What did you expect!! That did make me mad!
lovetennis
12-07-2017, 19:19
Did anyone else hear what else a certain Sue said after the match today? After commenting that Andy clearly was hampered by an injury today, 'certain Sue' then quoted his serving stats and went on to say that wasn't good enough and that you can't win slams serving like that! :angry: For flip sake Sue, you had just said he was injured!! What did you expect!! That did make me mad!
The "shock" statement made me cross too. Last week it was all about Andy not being fit and would he be able to play, then suddenly it's a shock when he's clearly hampered and loses. Tim at least was more sensible in his comments
Keeptheheid
12-07-2017, 19:31
What a fighter, till the end. The pain was etched on his face. A fit Andy would have been able to cope with Sam's firepower. Fair play to him not taking anything away from Sam's win. Hope he gets the rest and any medical treatment necessary and makes a full recovery. Here's hoping that the mens semi finals and the final are entertaining and exciting. Good Luck to all those left. For the ladies, I do hope that the medial do not pressure Jo Konta to much, good luck Jo. Not forgetting Jamie or Heather in their respective mixed doubles matches.
Mandiemoo
12-07-2017, 20:06
Not really anything to add, feeling down that it ended like it did but proud of the effort & fight Andy showed. It always hurts when he exits a major before the semis or final, have become so used to him winning & going to the end stages, especially after the glorious year that was 2016. Obviously hampered by the hip issue, I think we could be looking at a long layoff but Andy must do whatever it takes to get back to full fitness. I hope we can see a new name on the trophy on Sunday (also on the ladies too, maybe beginning with a J...)
Remember that "nice" Sam Querrey. He believes Andy's injury only got worse when he started losing. :rolleyes: Adje Cilic!
Express (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/827931/Wimbledon-2017-Sam-Querrey-with-Andy-Murray-conspiracy-theory-semi-finals) - Wimbledon 2017: Sam Querrey comes up with Andy Murray injury conspiracy theory
LC the fan
12-07-2017, 20:24
Sad way to go out. This is Feds championship to lose I feel.
Sad...but true. Who else can take it now ? perhaps Marin Cilic ?
LC the fan
12-07-2017, 20:32
At least Andy tried to the end. It would have been so easy to call it a day, walk up to the umpire and take away the glory from Querrey - just as Novak did to Berdych.
Andy played the nice guy, kept doing his best and let Sam win his way to the semis.
Just hope he makes the right decision and, if it needs another op then so be it - Rafa has come back after several repairs and Andy can too. Roll-on 2018
Hopefully there will be a few weeks break for Andy if that's what is needed. When he was interviewed he hadn't spoken to his team so I honestly don't think any decision has been made. Whatever is best for him is what we all want.
Anyone but Federer for me now ...
themass15
12-07-2017, 20:40
As RB said I would like to see Tomas B win, but can only see Fed holding the trophy again.
I think we all expected this. When I went to do the FTM, I had a feeling that Andy would lose - and yet I decided to be optimistic with my forecast - so unlike me!. Hope he is soon fully fit.
banskogirl
12-07-2017, 21:09
Sad that Andy is out, as he is too, but what else would I rather happen? I have only watched the last few points and quite clear he couldn't have battled any harder so he needs to rest up, enjoy time with his girls and not come back until he and his team think he's match ready.
All the best everyone, enjoy wimby as much as you can without our man and be happy, as always, for what he has already given us :)
Just under 4 weeks until Montreal, is that long enough?
Wilander complementing Andy for reaching the French SF when not playing well coming in and the QF here when clearly struggling with an injury.
I like Wilander; he always comments realistically from the point of view of the player and doesn't drool over a certain player.
Remember that "nice" Sam Querrey. He believes Andy's injury only got worse when he started losing. :rolleyes: Adje Cilic!
Express (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/827931/Wimbledon-2017-Sam-Querrey-with-Andy-Murray-conspiracy-theory-semi-finals) - Wimbledon 2017: Sam Querrey comes up with Andy Murray injury conspiracy theory
Sam Querrey would have been better to accept his win gracefully and say nothing in my view. He has done himself no favours and has definitely gone down in my estimation.
WimbledonWestie
12-07-2017, 21:20
Remember that "nice" Sam Querrey. He believes Andy's injury only got worse when he started losing. :rolleyes: Adje Cilic!
Express (http://www.express.co.uk/sport/tennis/827931/Wimbledon-2017-Sam-Querrey-with-Andy-Murray-conspiracy-theory-semi-finals) - Wimbledon 2017: Sam Querrey comes up with Andy Murray injury conspiracy theory
Ew! Really hope that's been quoted out of context as it doesn't come across well, even the bit about it being ok it's not like it's 80 years since we had a winner.
Never been a fan of Querrey's (prefer Isner) and such comments if true do nothing to improve my opinion of him as a person/player. I suspect he'll get his comeuppance in his match with Cilic.
murrayfan89
12-07-2017, 21:53
Sam Querrey would have been better to accept his win gracefully and say nothing in my view. He has done himself no favours and has definitely gone down in my estimation.
Every tennis fan with even a bit of knowledge would know that Andy wouldn't lose to Sam Querrey on grass, at a home game, when fully fit, much less losing sets 6-1 6-1.
RosieBear
13-07-2017, 00:18
Oh come on folks, that's the Daily Express, take anything printed there with an even greater pinch of salt than the Mail. Although entirely genuine, Andy's woes did fluctuate in the second and third sets and I doubt Sam did any more than note this. I don't buy the remarks about upsetting the home crowd either. Personally, I wouldn't base an opinion on him (or anyone) based on what I read in the DE.
Josephine
13-07-2017, 06:27
The headline is misleading and sensationalised. The comments are in quotes so are what he said. Which is not the same as the headline, but a bit like McEnroe said - it hurts more when you're losing.
That's not how I interpreted what I saw. I saw it in 2nd set and posted here in early 3rd set that Andy was crocked.
Best quote of all is from Andy......"I gave everything I had. I'm proud about that." So are we Andy. So are we.
Josephine
13-07-2017, 07:02
Yes
themass15
13-07-2017, 09:31
It was heart-breaking to see Andy yesterday. The most sad I think I have been at any of his matches. Even if he had got it done in 3 I think Cilic would have walloped him tomorrow. Can't see anyone but Mr Smug lifting the title.
Must say Boris Becker praised Andy and gave some very good advice in his interview. I was not a fan of Boris but he showed real support for Andy so well done Boris.
HoopGirl
13-07-2017, 10:32
I wonder what will happen now regarding the hip.
Clearly it's not a passing injury if he's had it since he was 22.
Thinking about it he's always limped when initially transitioning from different surfaces.
That's true Hoopgirl although we've usually put that down to his congenital knee condition, but as Andy isn't forthcoming about any health issues he may have, it's all conjecture on our part.
themass15
13-07-2017, 11:18
If he has lingering injury issues, his body would probably benefit from a few months rest, although it would be incredibly disappointing for us all.
Think it's his hip flexor from what he's said in the past.
BT Sport (http://sport.bt.com/tennis/i-wanted-to-cry-for-andy-murray-says-hip-specialist-S11364195629954) - I wanted to cry for Andy Murray, says hip specialist
The speculative "hip specialist"...
Explaining the options available to the Scot, Stafford said: “If he has dysplasia, it can sometimes be conservatively treated with some rest, some physiotherapy and sometimes some guided injections.
“It all depends on how much damage is in the joint. If he has a lot of damage in the joint, you can try keyhole surgery to try and tidy up any damage and repair what you can, but you can’t treat any shallow socket that way.
“The surgery for a shallow socket is quite a big operation and he wouldn’t get back to professional sport. Keyhole surgery might improve some of his symptoms but may not improve all of his symptoms.
“If he decides he wanted to go forward for keyhole surgery, he might be out for six months. If he decides he’s going to try and be as conservative as possible, then he’ll probably just need a month or two’s rest and then he might be playing again in a couple of months.
“I’d say the US Open would be 50/50 at a guess looking at the way he was playing yesterday.”
goldfish
13-07-2017, 15:07
Whatever is best for his health, but I will be incredibly sad if he's out for too long.
angiebabez
13-07-2017, 16:06
Whatever is best for his health, but I will be incredibly sad if he's out for too long.
Me too but i just want to see him fit & happy. Im at the stage that i really dont want him to play US open as i will be worried sick..my feeling is that he needs more than 6weeks off
JAMES4578
13-07-2017, 16:19
Andy definitely needs a break and wouldn't want him to play the US Open if there is a risk of making the hip injury worse, hopefully the damage in the joint is not too severe though.
It's all about what is best for Andy's fitness but it's just that Canada (which he skipped last year) and the US Open are the only 2 tournaments left this year where Andy can gain a chunk of ranking points. 2017 has been a @&$£%!
WimbledonWestie
13-07-2017, 18:22
He can only make points if he's in a fit state to win matches. And hard courts are very unforgiving. He needs to make the right decision for the long term. And just think how many opportunities he has to make points back next year- when fully fit!
He can only make points if he's in a fit state to win matches. And hard courts are very unforgiving. He needs to make the right decision for the long term. And just think how many opportunities he has to make points back next year- when fully fit!
Exactly, I'd rather he took a long break and went down the rankings and then came back later, than jeopardise continuing his career (which hurts even to type!! perish the thought!)
RosieBear
13-07-2017, 20:20
I'm very optimistic for Andy. A long break IF that is what his top doctors prescribe....which is a chance to rest, but also think about re-modelling his game. Andy is an incredibly versatile player which stands him in very good stead. I've never quite understood Andy's decision to counterpunch and grind as much as he does when he possess aggressive weapons and touch that other players would kill for. I've said it before and I'll say it again, don't leave the gold in the mine Andy. Nole is the same age as Andy and retired on the same day Andy struggled, I wish Nole no ill will but in my view he would find it much, much harder than Andy to re-model his game. Just give it a little time, Andy's future is very bright.:thumbup:
HoopGirl
13-07-2017, 20:28
I'm very optimistic for Andy. A long break IF that is what his top doctors prescribe....which is a chance to rest, but also think about re-modelling his game. Andy is an incredibly versatile player which stands him in very good stead. I've never quite understood Andy's decision to counterpunch and grind as much as he does when he possess aggressive weapons and touch that other players would kill for. I've said it before and I'll say it again, don't leave the gold in the mine Andy. Nole is the same age as Andy and retired on the same day Andy struggled, I wish Nole no ill will but in my view he would find it much, much harder than Andy to re-model his game. Just give it a little time, Andy's future is very bright.:thumbup:
Mmm I like it RB - he could sharpen his net skills, his serve and shorten his rallies by finishing the points quicker and saving those joints of his!
There's so much he could do AND then he could come back and wipe the floor with them all!!!
I like it as well even tho we will miss him. Andy to have time away from the game, have medical treatment for his injury, get fit and then focus on improving his game to an even higher level. Federer and Rafa both did it and look what they've achieved since they returned.
Loving reading this positive talk. :)
Josephine
14-07-2017, 11:46
Good to be positive.
Thing is if it was easy for Andy to have done all that, he would have done it already. Habits are hard to change. Roger was always an aggressive player so much easier for him.
Certainly hope it can happen.
roytennisfan
16-07-2017, 19:43
Never felt so down after Andy losing as this match, not because he lost it but because how he was carrying on and I was worried he was causing more damage. Hawkeye and I made a glum drinking pair, almost tried to cheer ouselves up by going to give Bouncy some stick but opted for more drinks instead, we were both thinking we might not see Andy for the rest of the year, but that would be worth it if we can get Andy back fit and well for 2018. Still feeling pretty glum know, worried that Andy may try to play too soon and cause more damage, if he can't win the US Open, why try? He will have lost #1 after Montreal if Rafa has a couple of wins there and why worry about fighting for an ATP finals place when you have already won it the previous year, but it worries me he will, he turned up and kept fighting till the end not to let his fans down and he will probably feel he is letting them down if he doesn't play the ATP finals. Andy, be sensible, you have spoilt the fans for years, put yourself and your family first, nobody would blame you if you decided till take time off until after Kim gives birth.
themass15
16-07-2017, 21:17
Couldn't agree more Roy, he would be much better to take the rest of the year off and come back fighting fit in 2018. I was at the match and he made a very sad figure hobbling round Centre Court. I am sure Andy is the main reason most of us didn't enjoy Wimbledon as much as we normally do.
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