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patmoren
06-09-2013, 15:29
All this worry about rankings and Andy says he doesn't care more interested in winning slams!! Mind if he didn't make it the WTF he might feel differently but as he won a slam doesn't he automatically qualify?

patmoren
06-09-2013, 16:01
The cut for the WTF as of today is 5145 so Andy is in with Rafa and Nole

Sallydaisy
06-09-2013, 16:26
All this worry about rankings and Andy says he doesn't care more interested in winning slams!! Mind if he didn't make it the WTF he might feel differently but as he won a slam doesn't he automatically qualify?There's no automatic qualification for singles players, the only thing that counts are the points won in the calendar year (but which confusingly starts with any points won at Davis Cup in November 2012).

In the doubles it's slightly different. There is a space reserved, if required, for any team who won a Slam in the calendar year but whose race points wouldn't otherwise give them qualification to the WTF. Hence the reason Marray/Nielsen were at the WTF in London last year and leapfrogged over other teams with more race points than they had.

Linda
06-09-2013, 18:17
What if two doubles teams won slams but didn't qualify on points? :confused:

Sallydaisy
06-09-2013, 18:29
What if two doubles teams won slams but didn't qualify on points? :confused:
Just checked and I think actually that the Slam winner space(s) apply to both singles and doubles.

From the ATP Rules on the WTF:


IV. WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
4.01 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals - Singles
1) Selection List. The selection list for the event shall be:
a) The top seven (7) players in the Emirates ATP Rankings as of the Monday
after the last ATP World Tour tournament of the calendar year; followed by
b) Up to two (2) Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions,
positioned between eight (8) and twenty (20) in the Emirates ATP Rankings
as of that Monday; followed by
c) Players positioned eight (8) and below in the Emirates ATP Rankings as of
that Monday.

2) Direct Acceptances. The top eight (8) players in the selection list shall qualify
for the event as direct acceptances. Participation is mandatory, and all qualifi ed
players shall be entered. All direct acceptances must be at the tournament site
to attend the offi cial pre-tournament media conference and must be available for
play through the completion of the round robin competition and the knock-out
competition if eligible.

3) Withdrawal. Any withdrawal, before the offi cial pre-tournament media conference
starts, shall be replaced by the next highest positioned player on the selection
list, who shall be qualifi ed as a direct acceptance.

4) Alternate(s).
a) The next highest positioned player on the selection list (who is not a direct acceptance
at the time of the offi cial pre-tournament media conference) shall be
designated as the alternate and shall replace any player who subsequently
withdraws. The alternate must appear at the offi cial pre-tournament media
conference and remain available through the start of the last scheduled round
robin match.
b) Additional alternates may be selected by the ATP to fi ll the draw, based on
the selection list, upon terms satisfactory to the ATP. Participation of such additional
alternates is not mandatory.
c) The alternate(s) is eligible to play in the single elimination competition and to
receive points and prize money if he qualifi es.
d) If the alternate(s) does not play in the draw, then a fee shall be paid to the
alternate(s). If the alternate(s) is inserted for the second or third round robin
match, then he shall receive the alternate fee plus any prize money and
points won. If the alternate(s) replaces a player that does not compete in his
fi rst round robin match, the alternate(s) becomes a direct acceptance and
does not receive the alternate fee.

4.02 Barclays ATP World Tour Finals - Doubles
A. Competition Format
The tournament shall be a doubles round robin format with eight (8) teams. There
shall be two (2) groups of four (4) teams each with eight (8) seeds to be determined
by the 2013 Emirates ATP Doubles Team Rankings on the Monday after the last ATP
World Tour tournament of the calendar year. All matches shall be two (2) tie-break
sets with a deciding Match Tie-break (10 point) at one (1) set all. The round robin
shall determine the four (4) teams for the semifi nals with the format thereafter being
a single elimination competition.

B. Entries
1) Selection List. The selection list for the event shall be:
a) The top 7 teams in the 2013 Emirates ATP Doubles Team Rankings as of
the Monday after the last ATP World Tour tournament of the calendar year;
followed by
b) Up to two (2) Grand Slam winners of that year, in order of their positions, positioned
between eight (8) and twenty (20) in the 2013 Emirates ATP Doubles
Team Rankings as of that Monday; followed by
c) Teams positioned eight (8) and below in the 2013 Emirates ATP Doubles
Team Rankings as of that Monday.
2) Direct Acceptances. The top eight (8) teams in the selection list shall qualify
for the event as direct acceptances. Participation is mandatory, and all qualifi ed
teams shall be entered. All direct acceptances must be at the tournament site to
attend the offi cial pre-tournament media conference and must be available for
play through the completion of the round robin competition and the knock-out
competition if eligible.
3) Withdrawal. All eligible teams shall be entered by the ATP; however, teams may
withdraw through the Friday of the last ATP World Tour tournament of the year.
Any withdrawal, before the offi cial pre-tournament media conference starts, shall
be replaced by the next highest positioned team on the selection list, who shall be
qualifi ed as a direct acceptance.
4) Alternate(s).
a) On the Friday of the last ATP World Tour tournament of the year, the next
highest positioned team shall be asked to confi rm its status as the alternate
team. Alternate team(s) may be selected by the ATP to fi ll the draw upon
terms satisfactory to the ATP. Any withdrawal after the offi cial pre-tournament
media conference through the start of the last scheduled round robin match
shall be fi lled with the alternate team(s). The alternate team must appear at
the offi cial pre-tournament media conference and remain available through
the start of the last scheduled round robin match.
b) Additional alternate teams may be selected by the ATP to fi ll the draw, based
on the selection list, upon terms satisfactory to the ATP. Participation of such
additional alternate teams is not mandatory.
c) The alternate team(s) is eligible to play in the single elimination competition
and to receive points and prize money if they qualify.
d) If the alternate team(s) does not play in the draw, then a fee shall be paid to
the alternate team(s). If the alternate team(s) is inserted for the second or
third round robin match, then they shall receive the alternate fee plus any
prize money and points won. If the alternate team(s) replaces a team that
does not compete in their fi rst round robin match, the alternate team(s) becomes
a direct acceptance and does not receive the alternate fee.

Alis
21-08-2016, 11:37
If Andy wins today, he will be only about 800 points behind Djokovic in the race. Am I right in thinking that if Andy were to win the USOpen he would go ahead of Djoko in the race? Djoko has a huge amount of points to defend from now to the end of the year - could the number 1 ranking really be a possibility for Andy?

pabbers
21-08-2016, 11:40
If Andy wins today, he will be only about 800 points behind Djokovic in the race. Am I right in thinking that if Andy were to win the USOpen he would go ahead of Djoko in the race? Djoko has a huge amount of points to defend from now to the end of the year - could the number 1 ranking really be a possibility for Andy?

I'm not a rankings guru but as I understand it he can't really make #1 by the end of the year - maybe after the Oz Open. The race and the rankings are different, so in the rankings, there's still a fair old gap between Andy and Nole and I'm not sure how things would pan out if, for example, Andy were to win tournaments instead of Nole but by beating Nole in a final each time........so whilst Nole's points for winning would drop off, he'd still regain a fair few. Someone is bound to have the permutations for this.........over to them!! :thanks:

harriet
21-08-2016, 12:11
today, Novak has 15440 points, but Andy only has 9065.
in the Race Novak leads with 9040, Andy second with 7225.

TizMurray
21-08-2016, 12:16
today, Novak has 15440 points, but Andy only has 9065.
in the Race Novak leads with 9040, Andy second with 7225.

On live ranking it shows Novak on 14,840 and Andy on 9,305.

Alis
21-08-2016, 12:24
Surely, though, it's only the race that counts by the end of the year or maybe I've got that wrong. I'm sure someone will be able to explain it to me in words of one syllable!

exislander
21-08-2016, 14:08
Surely, though, it's only the race that counts by the end of the year or maybe I've got that wrong. I'm sure someone will be able to explain it to me in words of one syllable!

I think ranking points are counted on a previous 12 month rolling basis so maybe simplest to think of it that by end of 2016 all points earned in 2015 have dropped off to be replaced by points earned in 2016 only.

Alis
21-08-2016, 14:13
Thanks, exislander, that's what I thought. Go Andy!

sir coolerking
22-08-2016, 08:26
If Andy wins the Race then he'll be number 1 in the rankings too in Dec. If he could win the US Open then things would start to get very interesting.

cazza99
27-08-2016, 13:28
Confirmation by ATP that if Andy wins the US Open, unless he beats Djokovic in the final, then Andy will be no 1 in the race after the US Open.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/us-open-2016-murray-preview

banskogirl
27-08-2016, 13:30
Confirmation by ATP that if Andy wins the US Open, unless he beats Djokovic in the final, then Andy will be no 1 in the race after the US Open.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/us-open-2016-murray-preview

:nailbiter: already!

Rosalind
27-08-2016, 14:27
Confirmation by ATP that if Andy wins the US Open, unless he beats Djokovic in the final, then Andy will be no 1 in the race after the US Open.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/us-open-2016-murray-preview:cauldron:

-J-
27-08-2016, 14:31
Imagine how much closer if points where awarded for olympics

cazza99
27-08-2016, 16:42
Imagine how much closer if points where awarded for olympics

I'd been wondering how much closer he would have been if he both won Cincy and got points for the Olympics.

JimmyG
01-09-2016, 20:35
I'd been wondering how much closer he would have been if he both won Cincy and got points for the Olympics.

1145 points closer, assuming same points allocation as 2012

Alis
01-09-2016, 20:53
Rats! That's a lot of points - how very annoying.

Hawkeye
04-09-2016, 16:11
https://www.facebook.com/britishtennislta/videos/1294064977273295/

patlowe
04-09-2016, 19:10
https://www.facebook.com/britishtennislta/videos/1294064977273295/
No pressure Andy!!

banskogirl
05-09-2016, 22:04
https://www.facebook.com/britishtennislta/videos/1294064977273295/

wee buns........

Alis
15-10-2016, 17:45
By my reckoning - IF, and it is a big if, Andy were to win tomorrow and in Vienna and Novak were not to compete next week, Andy would be on 10285 points and Novak on 10960 - only a difference of 675 points!

WimbledonWestie
15-10-2016, 18:09
So exciting that we are in a position to have this conversation!

banskogirl
15-10-2016, 22:17
https://www.facebook.com/britishtennislta/videos/1294064977273295/

Maybe we should all watch this again then.............

angiebabez
16-10-2016, 07:18
By my reckoning - IF, and it is a big if, Andy were to win tomorrow and in Vienna and Novak were not to compete next week, Andy would be on 10285 points and Novak on 10960 - only a difference of 675 points!

So it all could come down to who gets furthest in london?

Silverdee
16-10-2016, 08:00
Commentator yesterday said that Andy has 2 more tournaments, in Vienna and Paris before Tour Finals whilst Novak has none although he did say about Novak none at the moment!

Bardot
16-10-2016, 08:40
According to Stuart Fraser...

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser
Andy Murray will become world No 1 on November 7th if:

- Murray wins Shanghai, Vienna & Paris
- Djokovic fails to reach Paris final

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu391bRXgAAcmTh.jpg

pabbers
16-10-2016, 08:42
Commentator yesterday said that Andy has 2 more tournaments, in Vienna and Paris before Tour Finals whilst Novak has none although he did say about Novak none at the moment!

Unless injured Nole will have to playe Paris won't help? Or can he miss another masters?

-J-
16-10-2016, 08:48
Unless injured Nole will have to playe Paris won't help? Or can he miss another masters?nole is defending a 1000 points in paris anything short of a win for him will see him losing points saying that andy made the final so best possible result would result in picking up 400 extra points

pabbers
16-10-2016, 08:52
nole is defending a 1000 points in paris anything short of a win for him will see him losing points saying that andy made the final so best possible result would result in picking up 400 extra points
Sorry. Should have made clear I was replying to Silverdee's post below which seems to imply Paris is not on Nole's schedule.

Commentator yesterday said that Andy has 2 more tournaments, in Vienna and Paris before Tour Finals whilst Novak has none although he did say about Novak none at the moment!

-J-
16-10-2016, 08:56
According to Stuart Fraser...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu391bRXgAAcmTh.jpg
just spotted this, well that was a waste of a sunday morning spent half an hour working out the permitations this morning was waiting till after this match to finish it no need now :lol:
very doable but as some one who owns chickens I can tell you the auld adage is true never count yur chucks till ..... ;)

Sallydaisy
16-10-2016, 10:25
A reminder about Masters 1000 events.

The top 30 commitment players* HAVE TO PLAY!!!
Masters 1000s are MANDATORY.


And Nole's name is on the entry list because he can't skip it out of choice (as he could any of the 250/500s) unless he is injured. The commentators rarely take the trouble to check facts before spouting drivel. Nole already skipped 1 Masters this year; he has no leeway left.

* no time to find the relevant ATP Rule page ...

JAMES4578
16-10-2016, 10:34
Sure Commentators said earlier in the week that Djokovic wasn't playing anything before Paris which is likely to be the case, it's pretty certain he will be playing Paris and London.

-J-
16-10-2016, 10:40
Sure Commentators said earlier in the week that Djokovic wasn't playing anything before Paris which is likely to be the case, it's pretty certain he will be playing Paris and London.
nole talked about olaying in both during his presser yesterday

cazza99
16-10-2016, 11:46
Sometimes it is hard not to do a "what if" the Olymics had had points allocated like before and another "what if" Andy had won Cinci.

Alis
16-10-2016, 13:28
........... and what if the DC had points? Perhaps, if they want to encourage the better players to play DC, instead of eliminating the points and messing about with the format, they should just award double the number of points - just a thought! While we're on the subject - why not award points similar to the Majors for the Olympics and allow the player to keep them for four years. They would have people flocking to play not ducking out on the flimsiest of excuses - okay, maybe that is a bridge too far! ;)

rimarli
16-10-2016, 13:52
........... and what if the DC had points? Perhaps, if they want to encourage the better players to play DC, instead of eliminating the points and messing about with the format, they should just award double the number of points - just a thought! While we're on the subject - why not award points similar to the Majors for the Olympics and allow the player to keep them for four years. They would have people flocking to play not ducking out on the flimsiest of excuses - okay, maybe that is a bridge too far! ;)
I was thinking just that about the Olympics. McEnroe has said many times in the past that it should be given more points and that he personally considers it equal with a gs

Bardot
16-10-2016, 17:53
Anyone else feeling guilty for thinking that GB losing to Argentina in the Davis Cup has shiniest silver lining? ;)

Teresa
16-10-2016, 18:06
Anyone else feeling guilty for thinking that GB losing to Argentina in the Davis Cup has shiniest silver lining? ;)

Nope. TBH didn't even cross my mind. It's actually all AM's fault. He could have got into a strop about the DC and sulked for a month, instead he put it behind him and headed off to Asia. He has got, and is getting exactly what he deserves:-)

When the DC final is on I will be cheering for Argentina. Del Potro wants it as much as Mr M did. I hope he gets it.

Rosalind
16-10-2016, 21:41
Nope. TBH didn't even cross my mind. It's actually all AM's fault. He could have got into a strop about the DC and sulked for a month, instead he put it behind him and headed off to Asia. He has got, and is getting exactly what he deserves:-)

When the DC final is on I will be cheering for Argentina. Del Potro wants it as much as Mr M did. I hope he gets it.

If we had beaten Argentina, we could have won the DC at home but we could now be number 1. It's an alternative option and there are various good options whilst Andy is doing so well.

sir coolerking
17-10-2016, 07:14
Things Andy is missing from his career........Number 1 ranking, Australia and France Grandslams. All that is achievable in the next 7 months.

themass15
17-10-2016, 07:41
I think Andy will have benefited from the DC loss. It is allowing him to focus on becoming No. 1 which he absolutely deserves.

Josephine
17-10-2016, 08:16
Not to forget Nole has not lost a match indoors for years, so don't think we can assume he won't put up a good show in Paris and London.

Paris never a paricularly happy hunting ground for Andy and he may be feeling a bit tired by then.

Still, if not this year, hopefully early next year Andy will be No 1.

themass15
17-10-2016, 08:38
Think quarters is furthest Andy has gone in Paris.

sir coolerking
17-10-2016, 08:52
Think quarters is furthest Andy has gone in Paris.

He lost in the Final to Djokovic last year.

rimarli
17-10-2016, 09:53
Anyone else feeling guilty for thinking that GB losing to Argentina in the Davis Cup has shiniest silver lining? ;)
Just what I have been thinking

LC the fan
20-10-2016, 11:22
Not to forget Nole has not lost a match indoors for years, so don't think we can assume he won't put up a good show in Paris and London.

Paris never a paricularly happy hunting ground for Andy and he may be feeling a bit tired by then.

Still, if not this year, hopefully early next year Andy will be No 1.

Pretty much my thoughts. Andy has never exactly excelled at the WTFinals - one semi I believe, or was it two ?
Anyway, next year is a different kettle of fish with Novak defending a mountain of points - 2017 will be the year Andy makes NUMBER ONE, I am sure of it

david1610
25-10-2016, 17:59
I think Andy will have benefited from the DC loss. It is allowing him to focus on becoming No. 1 which he absolutely deserves.
I must admit I thought about that about a nanosecond after GB lost!

Alis
25-10-2016, 18:34
Pretty much my thoughts. Andy has never exactly excelled at the WTFinals - one semi I believe, or was it two ?


........ but there has so often been a reason why Andy hasn't done well. One year - can't remember which - he had to retire injured; in 2014 he was cream crackered by the time he got there and last year he was focused on the DC final and practised on clay before the WTA - totally negating any chance he might have had of doing well. This year things will be different I'm sure!

LC the fan
25-10-2016, 18:43
........ but there has so often been a reason why Andy hasn't done well. One year - can't remember which - he had to retire injured; in 2014 he was totally cream crackered by the time he got there and last year he was totally focused on the DC final and practised on clay before the WTA - totally negating any chance he might have had of doing well. This year things will be different.

Absolutely right - and I do hope you are right about this year.. With you (and Andy) all the way

themass15
25-10-2016, 19:44
I would love to see Andy get to the final at WTF this year and win it!

Alis
25-10-2016, 19:54
I would love to see Andy get to the final at WTF this year and win it!

Wouldn't we all?!!!!!

-J-
26-10-2016, 13:43
Wouldn't we all?!!!!!

other than the ranking points nah not really,WTF has always left me cold

Bardot
26-10-2016, 20:37
The Viennese scenarios for what is required for Andy to become #1 before the tour finals. "He must win in Paris" is the constant and why it will be very difficult.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cvt8sp9UAAA6NXJ.jpg

themass15
26-10-2016, 21:08
So many scenarios. It will be interesting to see which Djokovic turns up in Paris. Having said that, he is probably already there practising.

Nessie
27-10-2016, 09:21
I feel sure Djokovic will be determined not to lose number 1 ranking. This probably just gives him the motivation to get back his form. Our boy will just have to be better than him- which he can easily do if he is not too exhausted!

Alis
27-10-2016, 10:55
I don't know - maybe Djoko will feel the pressure is off if he loses the number one spot. He will then be the hunter rather than the hunted and players seem to think that is easier to cope with.

david1610
29-10-2016, 16:46
Some interesting stats from the article at http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/news/murray-ferrer-vienna-2016-saturday

The 29-year-old Murray is trying to become the oldest first-time No. 1 since John Newcombe, at 30 years of age, on 3 June 1974.
Any shift in the order of the Top Two would be a dramatic change for both players. Djokovic has claimed the top spot consecutively since 7 July 2014. Murray first reached No. 2 in the Emirates ATP Rankings more than seven years ago, on 17 August 2009. On Monday, Murray will have spent 76 weeks altogether at No. 2.

-J-
29-10-2016, 17:54
maybe i missed this somwhere but anyone know andys highest points tally ?
answer to my own question :lol:
found a site hear with graph of andys points each year http://www.coretennis.net/tennis-player/andy-murray/279/ranking.html
he is curently on his highest ever total

Teresa
29-10-2016, 18:09
Assuming he wins tomorrow, but doesn't win Paris has anyone got any idea of how the WTF have to play out to get him to No 1?

-J-
29-10-2016, 18:43
Assuming he wins tomorrow, but doesn't win Paris has anyone got any idea of how the WTF have to play out to get him to No 1?there is a lot of ifs and maybys there, BASICALLY after paris andy drops 800 points nole drops 2050 andys tally would be 10585 noles would be 10850 ( i think!)
so depending on how well either of them do in paris the gap going into london could be as high as 1300 or as low as 750(nole beeting andy in final)
strong caveat doing this from memory so could all be wrong lol

david1610
29-10-2016, 19:09
maybe i missed this somwhere but anyone know andys highest points tally ?
answer to my own question :lol:
found a site hear with graph of andys points each year http://www.coretennis.net/tennis-player/andy-murray/279/ranking.html
he is curently on his highest ever total
Didn't the points awarded basically double one year? So does this take this into consideration (if my cold is making me hallucinate, somebody put me right!)

-J-
29-10-2016, 19:14
Didn't the points awarded basically double one year? So does this take this into consideration (if my cold is making me hallucinate, somebody put me right!)

course they did :doh:and no idea if that is taken into account, tho saying that it even doubling up the tally pre 2008 wouldnt reach his present figure

Sallydaisy
30-10-2016, 16:13
Stu Fraser sets it out neatly:

Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser) 1h1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/792743935483514881) Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray's possible ranking points totals on November 7th after Paris:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBkSIGWIAQBidr.jpg

Alis
30-10-2016, 16:19
Do you know, I think it might suit Novak to go out early in Paris and then, if Andy were to grab the number one ranking, all the pressure would be on him at the WTF to end the year as number one. Novak would have no pressure and more rest and could well reclaim the prize for the year end. The only silver lining to that scenario would be that Andy would have achieved the number one ranking albeit for a few days!

Hawkeye
30-10-2016, 17:07
I would personally be happy with that, if that's all it ever turns out to be!

cazza99
30-10-2016, 17:10
Do you know, I think it might suit Novak to go out early in Paris and then, if Andy were to grab the number one ranking, all the pressure would be on him at the WTF to end the year as number one. Novak would have no pressure and more rest and could well reclaim the prize for the year end. The only silver lining to that scenario would be that Andy would have achieved the number one ranking albeit for a few days!


It could also suit Andy to be the other way round, as Andy would be fresher for the World Tour Finals. If Andy lost early in Paris he would have more of a rest and if Nole went deep in both singles and doubles he may be more tired.

Alis
30-10-2016, 17:51
Interesting times! I've just had a thought - when do the DC final points come off?

themass15
30-10-2016, 19:06
At the end of the day it will be the race that counts not the live ranking I believe.

cazza99
30-10-2016, 19:09
At the end of the day it will be the race that counts not the live ranking I believe.

At the end of the year it will.

Alis
30-10-2016, 19:15
On the back of wondering when the DC points come off, I was thinking that if the points had been awarded for DC and the Olympics as they have been in previous years, Andy would already be ahead in the race.

anor
30-10-2016, 19:30
Interesting times! I've just had a thought - when do the DC final points come off?

Think I saw 28th Nov.

Silverdee
30-10-2016, 22:05
Yes, I read it was end of November that the 275 DC points come off.

Yorkie
31-10-2016, 12:52
It could also suit Andy to be the other way round, as Andy would be fresher for the World Tour Finals. If Andy lost early in Paris he would have more of a rest and if Nole went deep in both singles and doubles he may be more tired.
It won't help Andy get to number 1 if Djoko goes deep in Paris and Andy loses early. if Andy loses R2 or 3 and Djoko wins paris then it only needs Djoko to win 1 round robin match to stay as number 1 even if Andy won all his matches or for Andy to lose one round robin match on the way to the title.

themass15
31-10-2016, 12:55
It could be Andy's best chance will be during Indian Wells and Miami next year. He has done very well in Miami. before.

sloveniadave
31-10-2016, 13:52
The latest ATP rankings show Djokovic dropping 2300 points this week and Andy dropping 800. Is that the Paris Masters and the WTF points coming off in one go? And does Andy still have some David Cup points to drop of as well or is that 800 everything now?

patlowe
31-10-2016, 18:35
I am dizzy trying to sort out in my head all these stats and permutations! I will simply watch it as it unfolds and enjoy watching Andy get there (in his own good time) as I know he will and I look forward to that very much. I don't disapprove (far, far from it) of talking about Andy becoming #1...it is a very exciting prospect and we are very rightly justified in becoming excited about it....but I do feel for Andy who is constantly being asked about becoming #1....I just hope that despite his very sensible and reasoned way of looking at it, it doesn't put him under any more undue pressure (like the pressure before winning Wimbly for the 1st time). Despite what he says, he must at least give it a fleeting thought from time to time. Only natural. Or maybe he will do like me...take one tournament at a time and see where he is after each one and go from there. Please press, give him a break and don't crowd him or put pressure on him about it....allow it to happen. Then we will celebrate like never before! We are already well practised in how to celebrate!! Been lots of it! Love it!

Rosalind
01-11-2016, 11:18
On the back of wondering when the DC points come off, I was thinking that if the points had been awarded for DC and the Olympics as they have been in previous years, Andy would already be ahead in the race.

I thought exactly this this morning. If Olympics were say 1500 and the DC a more realistic figure, Andy would be streets ahead.

sir coolerking
01-11-2016, 13:51
I seem to remember only 500 points being awarded for the London Olympics.

Yorkie
02-11-2016, 13:18
I seem to remember only 500 points being awarded for the London Olympics.

My recollection is that the olympics was between a 1000 and a slam so probably 1500, though for some reason 1,400 is in my brain, but I have slept since then so may be wrong.

JimmyG
02-11-2016, 13:25
My recollection is that the olympics was between a 1000 and a slam so probably 1500, though for some reason 1,400 is in my brain, but I have slept since then so may be wrong.

Olympics was 750 points for the winner in 2012

themass15
02-11-2016, 16:56
Shame it wasn't applicable this year!

Yorkie
02-11-2016, 21:48
Ok I knew it was different to other tournaments just got wrong two levels it was between.

-J-
04-11-2016, 17:42
Stu Fraser sets it out neatly:
Stuart Fraser ‏@stu_fraser (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser) 1h1 hour ago (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/792743935483514881) Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray's possible ranking points totals on November 7th after Paris:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwBkSIGWIAQBidr.jpg


so andy just needs to get to the final

Bardot
04-11-2016, 18:25
Nobody likes to talk money ;) but apparently Andy's contract with Under Armour is very much bonus based and he would receive a considerable amount should he reach #1 and even more if he finishes the year #1.

I wonder how much Adidas regret not renewing their contract with Andy in 2014. They always get it wrong.

-J-
04-11-2016, 18:33
Nobody likes to talk money ;) but apparently Andy's contract with Under Armour is very much bonus based and he would receive a considerable amount should he reach #1 and even more if he finishes the year #1.

I wonder how much Adidas regret not renewing their contract with Andy in 2014. They always get it wrong.
andy has played million dollar matches before wonder what the most money has been on a single match

-J-
04-11-2016, 20:50
WORSE CASE SCENARIO ANDY GOES INTO LONDON 235 POINTS BEHIND NOLE, STUPENDIOUS CONSISERING THE YEAR NOLES HAD cmonnnnnnnnn

roytennisfan
04-11-2016, 20:53
Andy has won his last 12 combined in total against possible opponents Raonic last seven (8-3) and Tsonga last five (14-2)

Sallydaisy
04-11-2016, 20:58
from twitter:

Mike Dickson ‏@Mike_Dickson_DM (https://twitter.com/Mike_Dickson_DM) 15m15 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Mike_Dickson_DM/status/794640969308184576) Miami, FL (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A04cb31bae3b3af93) Murray wins after late wobble, 7-6 7-5.
Another win tomorrow and he will be 5 points - a sliver - ahead of Djokovic at world number one.