Barclays ATP World Tour Finals - London 2011 at the O2.

[Speedy Hawk]

Fish saved it!

[Hawkeye]

And another one saved...

[VamosVixs]

Ach!!!! :sad:

[ljs]

why are people leaving , do the trains stop at a certain time ??

[Speedy Hawk]

why are people leaving , do the trains stop at a certain time ??

Trains do leave before midnight if I remember correctly. If you don't get train on time, you be stuck using very very very long bus journey and lots of changeovers. It nearly midnight so they need get on tube and kings cross train before midnight.

[Hawkeye]

Yes on a Sunday. The one thing that annoys me about the O2 is that you can't get there on foot from Central London

[VamosVixs]

TB!!

[-J-]

TB

[ljs]

eeeek vixs :sofa:

[Speedy Hawk]

Yes on a Sunday. The one thing that annoys me about the O2 is that you can't get there on foot from Central London

Saturday little bit better, there trains after midnight, before 1am. I remember last year match went on so long, me and Dad manage see end and tube then kings cross with only 5 minutes left before train leave. Phew, it very very fast walk!

[VamosVixs]

eeeek vixs :sofa:

:sofa:

[Speedy Hawk]

2-0 up for Rafa in TB.

[VamosVixs]

Just hold serve Rafa!!

[JAMES4578]

So breaker to decide it, pity the tubes don't run a bit later on a Sunday! Nadal gets early break ands 2-1, still expect him to win!

[-J-]

always fancied a late night match at AO SEEMS COOL

[Speedy Hawk]

3-1 to Rafa and he is serving still.

[ljs]

So breaker to decide it, pity the tubes don't run a bit later on a Sunday! Nadal gets early break ands 2-1, still expect him to win!

I dont understand why , when they know the 02 is on do they not change the schedule up a bit , to accomodate all the people there :confused:

[Speedy Hawk]

I dont understand why , when they know the 02 is on do they not change the schedule up a bit , to accomodate all the people there :confused:

Would be very nice if they do but they don't. :(

4-2 and now 4-3 to Rafa and he serving.

[VamosVixs]

Good serve Rafa, and again please!

[VamosVixs]

MP!!!!

[-J-]

i dont understand why , when they know the 02 is on do they not change the schedule up a bit , to accomodate all the people there :confused:17000 people in a city of millions not worth bothering with

[hfwardhouse]

What an entertaining match this has been - it's had everything!

[Speedy Hawk]

Nearly there! Only 1 more point to finish.

[-J-]

What an entertaining match this has been - it's had everything!excpt decent tennis

[Speedy Hawk]

Now Rafa won. Gotta do FTM scores.

[VamosVixs]

:mexican:

[hfwardhouse]

Well I thought it was pretty decent at times ....

[VamosVixs]

Rafa understandably not at his best, first match in 5 weeks. Good workout for him. :thumbup:

[-J-]

Well I thought it was pretty decent at times ....both wy below there best, rafa looks like he is well out of shape he was really strugling

[VamosVixs]

both wy below there best, rafa looks like he is well out of shape he was really strugling

I don't think he looks well. Interview suggests he was maybe sick when he went off court?

[-J-]

I don't think he looks well. Interview suggests he was maybe sick when he went off court?ye when do you ever see rafa look so puffed out only andy dose that to him ;)

[hfwardhouse]

poor Rafa - must be awful to have to play when you're feeling sick - he did well to turn the set around.

[-J-]

he had a dodgey stomach think he must have drunk some of that southern water :pirate:

[JAMES4578]

Certainly a gutst display in the circumstasnces but Fish just didn't have the self belief I feel, Rafa is likely to find it tough against Fed.

[-J-]

decisions decisions , do i find out the score of Andy match when i come home from work tomorrow or do i watch it on i player ?

[jeannie13]

he had a dodgey stomach think he must have drunk some of that southern water :pirate:
:rolling::rolling:

[Katie]

Good win from Rafa, he really had to fight hard - hope he feels better soon.

I was impressed with Mardy - his first ever tour finals match and although he was nervous in the first set, after that he gave it everything.

[KnightOwl]

decisions decisions , do i find out the score of Andy match when i come home from work tomorrow or do i watch it on i player ?

It depends if he wins or not - which is no help cos you won't know that till after you've heard the score or watched it :big grin:

[-J-]

It depends if he wins or not - which is no help cos you won't know that till after you've heard the score or watched it :big grin:thanks a bunch
i like watching a repeat of andys match after i watched it live you see so much more when there are no nerves involved but i love the buzz of a live match so much more

[KnightOwl]

thanks a bunch
i like watching a repeat of andys match after i watched it live you see so much more when there are no nerves involved but i love the buzz of a live match so much more

I agree - sometimes it's only when I get to the end of one of Andy's matches that I actually realise it was a really good match - I get so caught up in willing him to win that I hardly notice what I'm actually watching.

Maybe that answers your question - look up the score, then watch the match!

[xenon21]

Wow! Fedal tickets seem to already be sold out. Did a trial run and for last 5-10 mins didn't come up with any. Or I guess you have to keep trying

[xenon21]

Hope this is the right place to post this - I've created this A4 poster, which I'm planning to wave during change of ends during Andy's match tomorrow! If any other members of this forum want to print it out and do the same then please feel absolutely free! :)

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z401/gingerbluegrass/Adventures%20in%20Photoshop/40f23eb9.jpg

Take care... :)

That would be awesome but my printer is messed up at the moment so I can't print it out... unless you have a spare copy?

[RoastLamb]

Too bad it went to three and Rafa didn't win 6-4 in the third coz it means Fed is top of that group. :grrr: Hope he's not too sick. Fish played well at times - love how he's not afraid to come in.

[WimbledonAce]

Crazy match, gutted had to miss end,was screaming for Rafa on first match points. Think he was ill. Andy tomorrow,yay!!!!

[Sallydaisy]

OOP TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 22, 2011

(http://www.atpworldtour.com/Finals/2011/Tickets/Tickets.aspx?camefrom=CFC_UK_ATP_ATPHOME) CENTRE COURT start 12:15 pm
[2] M Llodra (FRA) / N Zimonjic (SRB) vs [5] R Bopanna (IND) / A Qureshi (PAK)

Not Before 2:00 PM
[6] J Tsonga (FRA) vs [8] M Fish (USA)


Not Before 6:15 PM
[3] M Mirnyi (BLR) / D Nestor (CAN) vs [8] M Fyrstenberg (POL) / M Matkowski (POL)

Not Before 8:00 PM
[2] R Nadal (ESP) vs [4] R Federer (SUI)

FTM's are up and raring to go .......

[david1610]

Most useless tennis observation ever?
Both Nadal and Federer only use one vowel in their surnames? (and Rafa ....).

[-J-]

dujocvica uses all the vowels :pirate:

[HenFan]

That would be awesome but my printer is messed up at the moment so I can't print it out... unless you have a spare copy?

I am bringing a couple of spare copies up with me today - so if we bump into each other, you're very welcome to one! :)

Take care... :)

[Alis]

Too bad it went to three and Rafa didn't win 6-4 in the third coz it means Fed is top of that group. :grrr: Hope he's not too sick. Fish played well at times - love how he's not afraid to come in.

I think they are actually tied as, by my reckoning, there is the same game win/loss difference between them: -

Federer won 2 sets and lost 1 with a winning game tally of 6 + 2 + 6 = 14, and a losing game tally of 2 + 6 + 4 = 12, making a game difference of +2

Nadal won 2 sets and lost 1 with a winning game tally of 6 + 3 + 7 = 16, and a losing game tally of 2 + 6 + 6 = 14, also making a game difference of +2

Or am I being too simplistic - is it decided by a different formula?

[omess]

They do % so Federer 14-12 53.8% Nadal 16-14 53,3% http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/605/mds.pdf but with only one match played it is not important

[Alis]

They do % so Federer 14-12 53.8% Nadal 16-14 53,3% http://www.atpworldtour.com/posting/2011/605/mds.pdf but with only one match played it is not important

How very annoying - I suppose that means that Fish is also ahead of Tsonga. Still - as you say - early days yet!

[Hawkeye]

dujocvica uses all the vowels :pirate:what about e, by gum?

[lynne]

Xenon made the TV.........smiling & waving happily, don't know the girl who was with her though:thumbup::thumbup:

[RoastLamb]

Bryans lost the first set. So far I have ZERO points in the FTD. :shocked: :yikes:

[greatunclebulgaria]

Andy may withdraw will decide on Thursday http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/15828774.stm

[Linda]

Berdy gets an early break! :cheer:

Blimey, and another one. Berdy leads 4-0

[Hawkeye]

Not sure that's good news for Andy if he plans to continue.

[Manaus]

Just saw the scoreline for Djoko-Berdy. Is Djoko having shoulder troubles or is Berdy just on fire right now? Not watching at the moment.

[Linda]

I'm watching and it seems to me that they are playing some long rallies, of which Berdy is coming out on top.

[Speedy Hawk]

Berdych won 1st set! :o

[RoastLamb]

Break for Djoko in the second.

[Speedy Hawk]

One set each.

[xenon21]

Good comeback by Nole but Berdych's forehand died there in the end! Well done Nole. Hard for Berdy as he played well

[JAMES4578]

yes must be gutting for Berdy but credit for Nole for finding a way to win again!

[Katie]

Poor Berdy, he had the match in his hands but just couldn't finish the job.

[Alis]

That's been the story of the first round so far - Jo against Fed - Fish against Rafa and now Berdych against Novak! Such a pity that Andy didn't manage to pull it off too but then if he hadn't been injured he would have probably done it in two and everyone would be earmarking him as the favourite - funny game tennis!

[Sallydaisy]

Fingers crossed Andy is OK ...

NeilHarmanTimes (http://twitter.com/#%21/NeilHarmanTimes) Neil Harman



Hearing that Andy M will hit at 1 today to determine his fitness for rest of 02. And can confirm he is playing Brisbane in 1st week of Jan

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[RFS]

Wheels came off the Indo-Pak express today...

Shame for them, really... especially if the rumours are true about them splitting for Olympic year (which makes sense)...

[supergran]

The mascots are so sweet....what a lovely time for them.

[Speedy Hawk]

Tsonga will win this match soon.

[Alis]

Fingers crossed Andy is OK ...

I hear that Andy didn't turn up for his practice session today - not a good sign.

[hfwardhouse]

Andy has pulled out - presser going on just now.

[lynne]

Not at all surprised, Andy does'nt do these things without good reason, shame but All the Best Andy for 2012, with you all the way!!:thumbup:

[supergran]

Poor Andy! But am sure he made the right decision. Feel sorry for all the fans on here who hoped to see him.:sad::sad:

[Golden Lady]

Feel so sorry for Andy but I knew he would make the right decision. Let's hope that he can enjoy some rest time now to recover and let's hope that 2012 is his best year! Love you Andy :hug:

[VamosVixs]

Gutted for Andy, but it is the right decision. Here's hoping for a healthy 2012! :thumbup:

[Alis]

Really gutted for him but feel he's made the right decision. Rest, get fit and come out all guns blazing next season Andy - we're behind you all the way!

[HenFan]

Feel very fortunate that I got to see Andy play yesterday - seeing how much the injury appeared to be hampering his movement I feel he's made the right call here. Better to get rid of the injury in time for Australia. :)

Take care... :)

[Guerkins2]

I'm gutted for Andy and for me too - I've got tickets for tomorrow and really good ones too! :( .......but I do understand he must do what is best.

[Guerkins2]

Do people think he might come on to court to say how sorry he is? I supposed that's a bit awkward when he is being replaced by someone.

[KnightOwl]

It's a real shame he's had to pull out, but I think it's probably the right decision :sad:

I haven't looked to see who replaces him - does anyone know...?

[Jan]

it's Tipsarevic

[Katie]

Andy's definitely made the right decision but it's such a shame that he's injured now. But hopefully with a bit of rest he'll be fully fit soon and will come back strong in 2012! :thumbup:

[KnightOwl]

I wondered if he was next in line - I remember it being close during Paris Masters, and Berdych putting him out, but I hadn't looked at the final rankings - could be interesting!

[Jean]

I feel so sorry for Andy- an event he loves with the home crowd able to get behind him-and having qualified so long ago- what a fabulous event this could have been for him - but i firmly believe that "most things in life happens for a reason" and although you generally don't recognise this at the time- in hindsight you usually can-

So- i hope with Andy having to retire from this great event he will be able to rest and recouperate and allow his body to mend and get fit & healthy for the forthcoming season which i have a feeling will be his best season ever-

Rest well and get fit and healthy again Andy - enjoy some time with your friends and family & we all look forward to following you reap the rewards you so deserve next year.


:cheer::cheer::cheer:

[sophie900607]

Poor poor poor boy... I feel so so so so sorry for him!
But I think he's made the right decision. There's no use in risking that his injury gets worse, the AO is just around the corner.

Thank you Andy for this exceptional year, it's a pleasure to be your supporter!! Sending you millions of hugs from here! :grouphug:
Have a big rest, recover from your injury and see you in Australia! :thumbup:

[Linda]

Heard the news on my car radio on the way home - sorry for Andy that he's had to withdraw from the tournament, but at least he'll have a few weeks to rest and recuperate now.

Nole gets so lucky - he really has no opposition in his group now.

. . . So Andy's definitely playing Brisbane? Must contact my brother . . .

[banskogirl]

Gutted for Andy :( and hugs to everyone with tickets to watch him :grouphug:

[Linda]

Yes, really sorry for all those with tickets for tomorrow :grouphug:

[Aya]

I wanted him to prioritize his health and pull out, but I'm soooo gutted now that he did. I've never seen someone with such a luck. Behind you all the way, Andy, all the way....
Roll on 2012. You WILL make your dreams come true. Come on!

[banskogirl]

Ok now for anyone to win but Fed :help: please, please, please!

[Linda]

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/Granny_Linda/Smileys/AnyoneButFed.gif

[sophie900607]

What are the scenarios when Andy loses his no.3 ranking?

[RoastLamb]

What's happened to the doubles? Shouldn't it have started an hour ago???

[Linda]

If Fed gets to the final he will be no. 3.

The doubles should be starting any minute now - it's a 6.15 start.

[Sallydaisy]

Sooooooooo sad for Andy.
Hugs for him, the forum folk and anyone going to O2 who'll miss seeing him.
:grouphug:

Muzzah must be absolutely gutted to end his season like this when he had such high hopes of doing well in London.

Ah well, Brisbane starts in 5 and half weeks time and he'll need to fly out a few days ahead to acclimatise.
Sooooo, that's 5 weeks 'off' (and an extra 5 days due to not playing in rest of the WTF).

Given he probably shouldn't do any training until the injury has healed I reckon he needs to have as much rest as he can, go out and enjoy himself, catch up properly with family, friends and doggies and WHEN his body is ready to get back into tennis mode.
Take care of yourself Andy!!!
:thumbup:

[lynne]

Doubles on now, warming up:thumbup:

[RoastLamb]

Yay! Glad I didn't miss my Danny boy.

[Speedy Hawk]

That shame! Health and fitness more important. Need be ready for next season.

[ljs]

Yay! Glad I didn't miss my Danny boy.

got back home just in time :cheer::cheer:

[ljs]

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/Granny_Linda/Smileys/AnyoneButFed.gif

:laugh: I agree

[traveller7]

Right decision but am disappointment for anyone with tickets. Big hugs xx

[Hawkeye]

I'm not hugely bothered, I really enjoyed witnessing Davydenko's run to the title two years ago, whilst Andy's defeat by Rafa last year ruined my entire weekend!

[pippadaisy]

Us and Andy were so looking forward to a great 02
gutted for Andy but hes doing the right thing
Rest up our lad and come back fitter and stronger:flowers:
:grouphug: for everyone who had tickets

[RoastLamb]

got back home just in time :cheer::cheer:

6-4 first set. 3 breaks. Fingers crossed.

[ljs]

yep , Im watching :cheer::cheer:

[ljs]

trying to create a magnificient christmas centerpiece at the same time , not going well :rolling:
better stick to the tennis

[RoastLamb]

Break in the second. Still keeping fingers crossed.

[pabbers]

I wondered if he was next in line - I remember it being close during Paris Masters, and Berdych putting him out, but I hadn't looked at the final rankings - could be interesting!

They interviewed Tipsy on Sky this afternoon before we knew about Andy's withdrawal - he was very sweet and said basically that whilst he'd love to be in the tournie he wouldn't wish injury on anyone (I think it was Greg had said that when you are in the reserve situation (as he was a few years back) you basically are hoping that's what will happen........charming!).

Sad for Andy and those looking forward to seeing him live but this has to be the right decision.

[Speedy Hawk]

Doubles nearly finished. 1 more point.

[RoastLamb]

My FTD was 6-4 6-3 but for the other team. That serves me right. :lol: But at least my boys got the W!!! :yahoo:

[Linda]

OK the players are coming out on court - let's have some http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd287/Granny_Linda/Smileys/whackaswiss.gif

[ljs]

:rolling::rolling:

[Linda]

Although the commies have said that Rafa is still suffering with the upset stomach :crying:

[VamosVixs]

VAMOS RAFA!!! :cheer:

[lynne]

:rolling::rolling:


COME ON RAFA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[WimbledonAce]

Really disappointing end to Andy's season and for the WTF as a whole. Really didn't think his injury was as bad when I saw him yesterday although goes some way to explaining the shocking serving. Glad he pulled out today so at least Tipsy can have some preparation for tomorrow and also so people going are aware. At least they do have the 9 and 10 as alternates. I remember one year pre London when they were scraping about for people to play!

Best of luck to Ferrer tomorrow, would love him to qualify for the semis. He has been superb both times I have seen him at the O2, a massively underated player in my opinion. A little sad that the shine has been taken off his victory yesterday, hopefully he can back it up with another win.

All the best Andy and see you in 2012 :thumbup:

[ljs]

I bet Roger loves his introductions :whistle:

[Linda]

Ugh, Ulrich in the chair. He's such a misery. Wish it were Molay.

[WimbledonAce]

I bet Roger loves his introductions :whistle:

You should have heard his speech yesterday when he got 2 trophies. That was the salt in the wound! The crowd were lapping it up though.

[Linda]

I remember when I was there two years ago and they were giving him a trophy. I got up and left, I couldn't stand it.

[Speedy Hawk]

FINALLY they playing so can find stream.

[ljs]

You should have heard his speech yesterday when he got 2 trophies. That was the salt in the wound! The crowd were lapping it up though.

sorry i missed it :rolleyes:

[ljs]

Rafa doesnt look well

[Manaus]

Sad that Andy had to pull out but the right decision though. Hopefully he gets a nice long and well deserved break so that he'll be back stronger than ever next year.

Let's hope Fed doesn't make it to the final. :red devil:

[WimbledonAce]

Found a stream.

[VamosVixs]

Rafa down 0-40! :sad:

[Linda]

:crying: :crying: :crying:

[Speedy Hawk]

Yes! Roger broke Rafa there. Roger serve now, 4-2.

[Linda]

1st set to Fed :crying: :crying: :crying:

[Speedy Hawk]

Good stuff Roger, win 1st set.

I bet Rafa win 2nd set and it be 3rd set. I hope Roger wins 2nd set. Wait and see.

[VamosVixs]

:crying::crying::crying:

[Hawkeye]

Easy peasy for Fed.

[Linda]

Federer is in brilliant form tonight :sad:

[Speedy Hawk]

Roger broken Rafa already in 2nd set. It usually follow same pattern 1st to Roger and 2nd to Rafa and 3rd to whoever.

[VamosVixs]

Federer is in brilliant form tonight :sad:

If he keeps playing like this he will win the tournament. :sad:

[Linda]

:crying: :crying: :crying:

[Linda]

Rafa doesn't seem to be able to run as well as he usually can - he just lets the ball go past :crying:

[VamosVixs]

Game over. :sad:

[RoastLamb]

Commies are NAUSEATING me.

[Speedy Hawk]

Wow 4-0 to Roger in 2nd set.

[lynne]

Don't think I can watch this match any more..............what a day..............COME ON RAFA!!!!

[hfwardhouse]

Can't believe how this match is going - Rafa looks awful - so pale.

[Speedy Hawk]

5-0 to Roger now! Roger serving for match.

[Linda]

Yes, Jane, I thought he looked pale too. Poor Rafa :grouphug:

[silver]

Poor Rafa. Definately not himself this week

[Helen40]

Unbelieveable!

[Speedy Hawk]

Yes he did it! Well done Roger. That fast match.

[RoastLamb]

Barf-inducing. Turned it off.

[silver]

This is turning into one bizarre tournament.

[Linda]

Awful. :sad: Fed was on fire and Rafa still obviously far from his best :crying:

[karanga]

:help: :crying: :crying: :crying: :pirate:

[Speedy Hawk]

Very quick. I am glad it finish early cos I can have long sleep tonight before work tomorrow instead up 12am or 1am waiting matches and FTM done.

[RoastLamb]

Only good thing today was the dubs that Danny and Max won in straights. At least I have that to savour.

[patmoren]

I'm glad I went last year and not this!

[Katie]

Very impressive performance from Federer tonight, it reminded me of how he beat Andy comfortably at this stage last year too. It would have been good to see a more competitive match - Rafa definitely doesn't seem to have recovered fully which is a shame.

[xenon21]

Ouch! That was one hammering! Well done to Federer for playing very well! But Rafa didn't quite seem himself which hasn't helped :(

[supergran]

I'm glad I went last year and not this! Know what you mean Pat. Though I am glad I saw Andy yesterday and was able to support him, and defend him quite often during the day!!

[super8]

I've just finished my quota of matches at this year's tournament.

I had gone to 4 RR sessions in the previous 2 years - this year, went to 6!! Basically all of them, so far..

What was apparent from these matches is that the courts are fast and relatively low-bouncing - thankfully relatively typical indoor hard courts.

This has rewarded the attacking players - and the hard hitters.

The Ferru v Andy match was frustrating because Andy really ought to own Ferru On hard courts. But of course his injury was a major factor. I think maybe he has over-exerted himself since the USO, and perhaps shold not have played so much during the Asian swing.

Really enjoyed all of my time at these matches - good venue - seems that you are guaranteed an excellent view on level 1 in particular.

[JAMES4578]

Glad you enjoyed it Super8,just my first day! Fed and Rafa though certainly didn't live up to the billing and whilst I wasn't expecting a classic even more one sided than I could have feared. Even if Fed showed some sensations form Rafa was clearly not himself. Disappointing for spectators,though some seemed thrilled. Thr doubles lasted longer even it ended up being pretty straightforward for Dan and Max! Real pity for the tourney that Andy participation is over,but in the circumstances the only decision he could take. He was misfortunate but may need to consider his future scheduling.

[super8]

James, are you going tomorrow too? Or maybe a few more sessions than that?

Yeah, tonight's match wasn't a classic - but really this is Roger's best surface and Rafa's worst - and so if Roger plays well - which he did - then Rafa will struggle. And they don't often play well at the same time in their matches against each other.

Many of the matches have been very physical - and so if players aren't 100% then they are being found out more. Not just Andy - also Nole, Rafa and Fish too. Mardy was sub-par against Jo today.

[lynne]

Well now that Andy is not competing the dilemma is who am I going to root for, after careful thought the answer has got to be David Ferrer, ok he beat Andy the other day but you know as well as I do that wouldn't of been the result if Andy had been 100% fit. Ferrer is a very under estimated player & sometimes doesn't get the credit he deserves & who is always there in the mix, plus he is a very good friend of Andy's, so looking forward to the match tonight against Noel & hope Ferrer does the job.................sorry Rafa fans...just wanted to get that out of my system:)

[Caro]

What was apparent from these matches is that the courts are fast and relatively low-bouncing - thankfully relatively typical indoor hard courts. .

That's exactly the opposite of what players and commentators have been saying on TV. Everyone seems to reckon the courts are SLOW, at least slower than they were last year. Thus giving Fed for example more time to react to Rafa's high ball to the back hand. And the attacking players are not getting as many cheap points as they would expect on an indoor hard court.

[RoastLamb]

The crowd was very much 80% pro Fed yesterday. And the commies and journalists on twitter (Neil Harman especially) were 100% pro-Fed and gushing quite horribly. All quite vomit-inducing.

Anyway, I'm hoping Djokovic can get back to his amazing form. I'm willing him on at this point because he's the only one who could beat Fed. Having said that, Tsonga came close the other day.

Team India won the dubs in straights. I had picked the other team. I am really tanking in the dubs FTDs. Don't care as long as my Canuck wins.

[Helen40]

How come Tipsy can come in after Andy's already played one. Surely if Andy had won 2-0 it would put the new guy in an unfair position?

[super8]

That's exactly the opposite of what players and commentators have been saying on TV. Everyone seems to reckon the courts are SLOW, at least slower than they were last year. Thus giving Fed for example more time to react to Rafa's high ball to the back hand. And the attacking players are not getting as many cheap points as they would expect on an indoor hard court.

I think that the degree of bounce is more of a factor with the Rafa forehand to Roger backhand.

Lower bounce always suits Fed more.

Slower courts usually suit Rafa more.

[Linda]

How come Tipsy can come in after Andy's already played one. Surely if Andy had won 2-0 it would put the new guy in an unfair position?

The new guy doesn't take the points of the player they are replacing, so he can never get more than 2 wins. They need a replacement because they have to have a match for all the people who have paid to watch - so it's more like an exhibition really, except that they do get points for it.

[Helen40]

I see thanks.
Has anyone got a link for a live stream as the BBC transmition is about to finish.

[super8]

The new guy doesn't take the points of the player they are replacing, so he can never get more than 2 wins. They need a replacement because they have to have a match for all the people who have paid to watch - so it's more like an exhibition really, except that they do get points for it.

And (I think) a very handy bit of prize money for each win too.

Even a loss in one of these matches pays pretty handily too!

[supergran]

Well now that Andy is not competing the dilemma is who am I going to root for, after careful thought the answer has got to be David Ferrer, ok he beat Andy the other day but you know as well as I do that wouldn't of been the result if Andy had been 100% fit. Ferrer is a very under estimated player & sometimes doesn't get the credit he deserves & who is always there in the mix, plus he is a very good friend of Andy's, so looking forward to the mtch tonight against Noel & hope Ferrer does the job.................sorry Rafa fans...just wanted to get that out of my system:) I like David Ferrer too. Always have.

[david1610]

What a strange last few points for the Tipsy Birdy.

[RoastLamb]

Feel sorry for Tipsy. Still, he did well on his WTF debut.

[lynne]

Feel sorry for Tipsy. Still, he did well on his WTF debut.


Sad to see, shame for Janko!!!!

[Alis]

Really sorrry for Janko - hope he's O.K.

[Golden Lady]

Gutted for Tipsy! Poor guy put everything into that :sad:

[Linda]

Well now that Andy is not competing the dilemma is who am I going to root for, after careful thought the answer has got to be David Ferrer, ok he beat Andy the other day but you know as well as I do that wouldn't of been the result if Andy had been 100% fit. Ferrer is a very under estimated player & sometimes doesn't get the credit he deserves & who is always there in the mix, plus he is a very good friend of Andy's, so looking forward to the match tonight against Noel & hope Ferrer does the job.................sorry Rafa fans...just wanted to get that out of my system:)

I like Ferrer too and hope he wins. I don't think Rafa stands a chance, the courts here don't suit him and this stomach upset he's had hasn't helped at all. Of course both of them have got to play in the Davis Cup final next week!

[supergran]

Poor Tipsy...felt so sorry for him. I'd forecast Berdych but don't like him. Do like Janko!

[pabbers]

Poor Tipsy...felt so sorry for him. I'd forecast Berdych but don't like him. Do like Janko!

Likewise.

[pippadaisy]

I like ferrer too and will be rooting for him
Also like rafa but feel he is not on form
wouldn't mind djoko if he can boost himself up

[Linda]

Here we go - vamos Daveed! :swingin:

[pippadaisy]

wish I could watch some of this it's really annoying it's in London and
BBC aren't showing any except afternoons:grrr:

[Linda]

You should sign up for tennistv.com!

[RoastLamb]

wish I could watch some of this it's really annoying it's in London and
BBC aren't showing any except afternoons:grrr:

Oh is THAT why they had Andy on in the afternoon? Makes sense. It's the same in Canada. We get the evening match much later in the middle of the night instead of live like the earlier one.

[pippadaisy]

I know I was gonna earlier in the year and never did it
Sometimes I can't get on my laptop for other family members so just left it maybe for next year :)

[Speedy Hawk]

What taking so long for singles to start???

[LC the fan]

Just come back from 2 fantastic days at the 02 with just 2 downers
Andy pulled out ..... what a sickening blow for us all and especially for him
Andrew Castle giving a 'speech' in the Barclays hospitality room, slating Andy for 'encouraging strike action which all other players rejected ' (after all he earns some £40,000 per hour on court) and saying how both Rafa and Fed had the wisdom to rest up a bit after the US Open but Andy lacks sensible guidance !!!!
Seeing Rafa play last night I dont think he rested up that much - he was so lacklustre - and I seem to remember Rafa and ARod were just as involved in asking for more rights for players as Andy was.
I was choking on my Pimms but husband had the sense to hold me back before I hit him !!!!

[Linda]

You remember rightly, Rafa, Mandy & Randy were all equally involved in asking for more rights for players.

Rafa has had a stomach bug this week :sad: I was there Sunday night when he had to leave the court in a hurry and was gone for quite some time.

Glad you've had 2 fantastic days :)

[pippadaisy]

Just come back from 2 fantastic days at the 02 with just 2 downers
Andy pulled out ..... what a sickening blow for us all and especially for him
Andrew Castle giving a 'speech' in the Barclays hospitality room, slating Andy for 'encouraging strike action which all other players rejected ' (after all he earns some £40,000 per hour on court) and saying how both Rafa and Fed had the wisdom to rest up a bit after the US Open but Andy lacks sensible guidance !!!!
Seeing Rafa play last night I dont think he rested up that much - he was so lacklustre - and I seem to remember Rafa and ARod were just as involved in asking for more rights for players as Andy was.
I was choking on my Pimms but husband had the sense to hold me back before I hit him !!!!

Andrew Castle is a tube

[Linda]

Daveed takes the first set! :cheer: :cheer: Vamos!

[lynne]

:cheer::cheer::cheer: GO ON DAVEED!!!!!!!!

[Speedy Hawk]

Lol Nole lost 1st set, was expecting him to win that set. Crazy Finals this year!

[Hawkeye]

Which player was recently revealed to have the best record at coming from a set down? Novak Djokovic. I hope he does for the sake of my FTM!

[supergran]

Vamos Daveed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Linda]

Daveed gets the break in the 2nd! :cheer: :cheer:

[RoastLamb]

Oh dear, the wheels have fallen off for Djoko. Ferru for the title anyone?

[WimbledonAce]

Vamos Ferrer! I did say he played great on Monday ....... Ferrer - Federer final?

[RoastLamb]

Has he ever beaten Federer? Don't think so. :sad: Perhaps now is the time?

[supergran]

I would really love Ferrer to win. He needs to believe he can beat anybody and tonight it looks like he does!

[WimbledonAce]

Would be amazing, love Mr Ferrer :cheer:

[greatunclebulgaria]

really pleased for Ferrer

playing great, nice to see

[WimbledonAce]

He is a little sweetie, was v nice after his match Monday.

[Linda]

Double break! :cheer:

[supergran]

And Ferrer wins 6-3, 6-1:cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

[Linda]

Well done Ferru! :cheer: :cheer: :yahoo:

[WimbledonAce]

Awesome, Ferrer makes semis! :swingin:

[lynne]

YIPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!...............GO ON DAVEED!!!!!!!..............WELL PLAYED!!!!!!!......So happy for him!!!!!:cheer::cheer:

[supergran]

Lovely courtside interview...he's lovely isn't he?:):clap:

[patmoren]

This Tour Finals is a disaster. You know who is going to come out on top!!:grrr:

[supergran]

This Tour Finals is a disaster. You know who is going to come out on top!!:grrr: We do indeed if we are being realistic but I will cling to my cock-eyed optimism and hope that someone will bring him down!!!:red devil:

[WimbledonAce]

Lovely courtside interview...he's lovely isn't he?:):clap:

He is indeed. I am very glad about this result as felt Monday was overshadowed by Andy's injury - no offence to Andy. I commented to my parents who came with me Sunday and Monday how David has come in very much under the radar, very quiet preparations, no nonsense, looks like it is paying off. Come on the dark horse!

[Linda]

This win by Ferru puts him in the same interesting position as Fed was a couple of years ago - he can, by how he plays his next match, decide who goes with him into the semis.

[Hawkeye]

We do indeed if we are being realistic but I will cling to my cock-eyed optimism and hope that someone will bring him down!!!:red devil:No-one saw Davydenko's win coming 2 years ago!

[supergran]

No-one saw Davydenko's win coming 2 years ago!True! And I cheered him on in the semi as you did!! Do you remember?

[Katie]

So pleased for Ferrer! He's playing brilliantly, would love him to win this tournament! Such a lovely guy too :)

[Hawkeye]

True! And I cheered him on in the semi as you did!! Do you remember?All I remember is thinking, "who's that woman doing all of the shouting?" :big grin:

[Speedy Hawk]

Well done Ferrer!

[supergran]

All I remember is thinking, "who's that woman doing all of the shouting?" :big grin::rolling::rolling::rolling:

[Alis]

Well done Daveed - great result. Unfortunately, I don't think we can get the Jo v David final I was hoping for because if Jo gets through they will meet in the semis. Not sure who I would like to meet His Majesty in the semis - perhaps Djoko if he can find some form before the weekend.

[silver]

Good for you David. Did Andy get more games against him than Novak despite being injured and hardly getting any first serves?

[Alis]

He certainly did!

[RoastLamb]

Djoko said he didn't feel well. Don't know what's wrong, though.

[silver]

On our rival site there is an article from a newspaper where Federer is having another sly dig about Andy about playing through pain. He mentions that of course he can do it where other players cant.

[Sallydaisy]

The Poles are racing away with this match.
They lead 6'2 and are up a break in the 2nd set and serving at *1-0.

Phew, all over in 49minutes!!!
:shocked:

6'2, 6'1.

[Sallydaisy]

Come on Fish .....

http://www.emofaces.com/en/smilies/s/shark-smile.gif

[lynne]

:rolling::rolling::rolling: Love it Sally!!!:thumbup:

[Speedy Hawk]

Lol Sally!! :rolling:

Come on Roger!! Deuce on Fish serve.

[lynne]

I've stopped watching Fed 5-1:facepalm:.............sorry Speedy!!!:flowers:

[supergran]

Have been busy proof-reading parish magazine which was far more enthralling than this!!!!

[Speedy Hawk]

Lol! :)

Start of 2nd set bit tougher for Roger than whole 1st set.

[Speedy Hawk]

LOL! Fish run too fast and have to jump over barrier!

[supergran]

Come on Fish!!!

[jeannie13]

Decided that cleaning the kitchen was preferable to watching Fed. Just occasionally checking the score. Afterwards the ironing beckons!!:yikes:

I've just checked the score & Fish is doing better--Might watch again for a bit.

[lynne]

Just checked score, as you do!!!.................COME ON FISH!!!!!!:wave:

[Speedy Hawk]

I was right at start of 2nd set, thought it might happen. Come on Roger!!

[supergran]

Brilliant Mardy!!!

[supergran]

Come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Golden Lady]

It's great that Mardy is challenging Fed but he has already qualified for the semis hasn't he?

[Speedy Hawk]

Finally ROGER wake up! 3-0 in 3rd set!! Come on Roger.

[Mickey]

:halo:
It's great that Mardy is challenging Fed but he has already qualified for the semis hasn't he?Yes he has but I want Fish to tire him out and lose this, then hopefully, with everything crossed and prayers all round that Nole can beat him in the semi finals.:grrr:

[Alis]

C'mon Fish - break back - you can do it!

[supergran]

The article where Roger has a dig at Andy is on twitter and my fb page if anyone can put it on here.

[Speedy Hawk]

:halo:Yes he has but I want Fish to tire him out and lose this, then hopefully, with everything crossed and prayers all round that Nole can beat him in the semi finals.:grrr:

Since when Roger get tired? His game too smooth make him tired like that. 5 sets might be possible do that.

[Golden Lady]

:halo:Yes he has but I want Fish to tire him out and lose this, then hopefully, with everything crossed and prayers all round that Nole can beat him in the semi finals.:grrr:

Well Nole might beat him but judging on last night's performance, I wouldn't rule Daveed out as a possible contender for the job of derailing the 'Fed Express' either! He is full of confidence and quite rightly, I would love to see him have a crack at Fed this weekend.

[Speedy Hawk]

Serving for the match now.

[traveller7]

Why is Fed so miserable looking these days??? I hope he doesnt win this tournament but looks that way to me.

[Mickey]

Well Nole might beat him but judging on last night's performance, I wouldn't rule Daveed out as a possible contender for the job of derailing the 'Fed Express' either! He is full of confidence and quite rightly, I would love to see him have a crack at Fed this weekend.If Nole beats him then he won't reach the finals and will remain as #4.Sorry Speedy Hawk I forgot that you believe Fed is a god. You are allowed your favourite, but not all of us like the man Fed, and being human he will tire.

[Speedy Hawk]

If Nole beats him then he won't reach the finals and will remain as #4.Sorry Speedy Hawk I forgot that you believe Fed is a god. You are allowed your favourite, but not all of us like the man Fed, and being human he will tire.

I don't think Fed is god. He is one of my favourite yeah. He does get tired but not like really tired make him play next match badly cos wore out in best of 3 sets. That rarely happens to Fed, I only see happen if he play best of 3 sets all 3 sets 3 matches in row then he will get tired. One match no way.

He most likely get tired in 5 sets long match and lose next match than best of 3. Even that doesn't happen often. Usually you see other players puffing hard and LOADS of sweat like Roddick and Rafa and Fed still look cool. It down to his game not too hard on his body like Rafa game can be.

Besides Fed more likely to lose match by playing badly rather than tired.

[LC the fan]

Well - that was my first - and probably last - time as a Fish fan but must say I was desperate for him to beat the ever-smug Fed. However, 2 sets lost in the tournie must make him think a bit. I feel Fed's building up for a grand style finish in 2012, ,m Grrr

[RoastLamb]

Oh good! I missed the match. Surprised Fishy took him to three sets.

[supergran]

I don't think Fed is god. He is one of my favourite yeah. He does get tired but not like really tired make him play next match badly cos wore out in best of 3 sets. That rarely happens to Fed, I only see happen if he play best of 3 sets all 3 sets 3 matches in row then he will get tired. One match no way.

He most likely get tired in 5 sets long match and lose next match than best of 3. Even that doesn't happen often. Usually you see other players puffing hard and LOADS of sweat like Roddick and Rafa and Fed still look cool. It down to his game not too hard on his body like Rafa game can be.

Besides Fed more likely to lose match by playing badly rather than tired.Did you see the banner the other night and I quote: IF TENNIS IS A RELIGION THEN FEDERER IS IT'S GOD. Would that they had checked correct use of apostrophes before displaying it large world-wide!!:big grin::dunce::dunce: