Davis Cup SF: GB v Argentina 16-18 Sept 2016 - Hotels, travel etc

[angiebabez]

https://www.lta.org.uk/major-events/international-events/davis-cup/davis-cup-tickets/

Post on ticket prices etc from LTA

[WimbledonWestie]

https://www.lta.org.uk/major-events/international-events/davis-cup/davis-cup-tickets/

Post on ticket prices etc from LTA

Just saw that- now waiting to hear if all my guests still want tickets. So far still yes!

[lovetennis]

LTA have released prices. £270 for the cat 1 3 day ticket, which is about what I was expecting.

[angiebabez]

https://www.lta.org.uk/major-events/international-events/davis-cup/davis-cup-tickets/

[Stell]

Anyone else going for Category 3 tickets like me?

[Caro]

Last year I'm sure our AMFF semi tickets were category 2 weren't they? I remember being shocked that where we sat wasn't category 1. I'm sure Sally will let us know what category we will be in this time. The price is about what I expected, actually a wee bit cheaper than what I was expecting.

[ClappingHands]

Hi all, are we still able to request tickets for this tie?

[JerryD]

I think it is what I was expecting. More than I hoped but the hope was a daft one. I'll be going even if it's beans for dinner for a while lol

[Hawkeye]

Hi all, are we still able to request tickets for this tie?I'm afraid we are already oversubscribed.

[lovetennis]

Last year I'm sure our AMFF semi tickets were category 2 weren't they? I remember being shocked that where we sat wasn't category 1. I'm sure Sally will let us know what category we will be in this time. The price is about what I expected, actually a wee bit cheaper than what I was expecting.

Sally says here http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?2296-Davis-Cup-Semi-Final-Information-regarding-tickets that we were cat 2 at last year's semi. They were brilliant seats, I was front row on one of the days. From memory, I think the seats that are end-on to the court were cat 1 last year, whereas we were side-on to the court which must have been cat2. I guess cat 3 were up in the gods. No doubt Sally will have it all under control and let us know

[Chelis]

I was front row at the final, but all the camera men were in front of me obscuring my view, so after a few games I moved to a completely empty 6th row.

[roytennisfan]

Sally says here http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?2296-Davis-Cup-Semi-Final-Information-regarding-tickets that we were cat 2 at last year's semi. They were brilliant seats, I was front row on one of the days. From memory, I think the seats that are end-on to the court were cat 1 last year, whereas we were side-on to the court which must have been cat2. I guess cat 3 were up in the gods. No doubt Sally will have it all under control and let us know

Think you are correct, I was cat1 at end last year with bats, about the 5th row, much prefer low down on the side like i had at Ghent (fri and sat) and Birmingham.

[Stell]

I got Category three tickets, last year, for the semi final in Glasgow. On the Friday and Saturday, my seats were in the front row. I remember, during the match on the Saturday, Jamie (Murray) ran towards me and smiled at me before hitting the ball back to the Aussies.

[JerryD]

Just to let everyone know the minibus for the Emirates is now booked, still room for another 7 on all journeys (bit more on onwards journeys Fri/Sat) should anyone else decide later. Don't need payments just now,will keep you informed of further details.
I know its late notice but there seems to be a last minute change to our own transport. So if 3 of these 7 spaces are left then that would be great. No worries if it's now full though

[JAMES4578]

I know its late notice but there seems to be a last minute change to our own transport. So if 3 of these 7 spaces are left then that would be great. No worries if it's now full though

That's fine, I still have space.

[JerryD]

Thanks James that's great. It's 3 of us for all 3 days :)

[banskogirl]

Will miss you, BG - who's going to loiter around the Emirates in the pouring rain with me now?!:) So pleased you're off the no fly list in November, just in time, I'm confident (:peace:) we'll catch up then. Look forward to seeing you, take really good care til then.:hug:

Thanks Rosie :) I have just applied for my brother's respite dates and have add 25-27th November............just in case.......:whistle:

[Hinxy]

Hi James, due to an annoyingly timed hospital operation, I am frustratingly no longer able to go to Glasgow. Please would you take my 3 seats of your list? Many apologies, and I hope you all have a great time in Glasgow. I will be thinking of you all!

Hi James, still waiting for prices of tickets but I have provisionally booked Premier Inn for 3 of us. If there is still availability, please can you add us to the list for the minibus as 'likely' category for all 3 days? Many thanks.

[JAMES4578]

Hi James, due to an annoyingly timed hospital operation, I am frustratingly no longer able to go to Glasgow. Please would you take my 3 seats of your list? Many apologies, and I hope you all have a great time in Glasgow. I will be thinking of you all!

Hi, pity you can't go now but certainly understandable. Hope you recover well after the op- Sure we'll have good time!

[angiebabez]

Hi folks! Ive ordered and got delivered a good luck card from moonpig for leon & team & like last time plan to hand deliver it down to emirates in the week b4 tie. Ive taken a few pics of it to show u all but i have problems posting pics on here so ive asked my pal prodigy to put it on here for me so look out for his post! If u zoom in u should be able to read it ok lol.

[lovetennis]

On the Friday, the first match will start at 1pm (12.00 GMT). On the Saturday, it starts at 2pm (13.00 GMT). On the Sunday, it starts at 1pm (12.00 GMT).

Wish they would start at 12.00 not 1.00 on the Fri & Sun. If both matches are long people end up having to leave. My nightmare scenario is it going down to the final rubber and having to leave before the end on the Sunday. My last train home is just after 8pm and have to factor in getting back to Glasgow Central

[angiebabez]

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[angiebabez]

Ooh it worked!!!

[WimbledonWestie]

Wish they would start at 12.00 not 1.00 on the Fri & Sun. If both matches are long people end up having to leave. My nightmare scenario is it going down to the final rubber and having to leave before the end on the Sunday. My last train home is just after 8pm and have to factor in getting back to Glasgow Central

I deffo wouldn't want a 12 start on the Friday as I'm at work til 3 so can't get there before 4ish, am missing enough! But appreciate why you do prefer earlier start. Had to leaving during first Sunday rubber in Birmingham it was so long and we were in danger of missing our flight!

[patlowe]

Ooh it worked!!!
Well done! Briliant!

[glenys]

Fabby!

[cazza99]

:thumbup:

[lovetennis]

Great, looks marvellous :thumbup:

[tinawatt]

Well done Ange, looks great,

[Caro]

That's brilliant angie, thanks so much for organising it x :thanks:

[supergran]

:thanks::clap:

[JerryD]

I have to agree Rosiebear. The venue can be as big as you can fill. I know many who couldn't get tickets. Or people who wanted to go as three but there was a two per person limit again even if you are all LTA, you couldn't combine to get seats together. I am certain given the demand that they could fill a bigger venue. And surely the more supporters the better. With the chance of a great match between Andy and Delpo they could have filled any venue. I always have to travel as its never near me, I'm lucky that I have the time and money to do so. But this isn't true for all. Sad that people lost out when the really shouldn't have too. I just hope that IF we make the final and IF it's at home the LTA at least recognise the demand and get a MUCH bigger venue for that X

[patmoren]

I have to agree Rosiebear. The venue can be as big as you can fill. I know many who couldn't get tickets. Or people who wanted to go as three but there was a two per person limit again even if you are all LTA, you couldn't combine to get seats together. I am certain given the demand that they could fill a bigger venue. And surely the more supporters the better. With the chance of a great match between Andy and Delpo they could have filled any venue. I always have to travel as its never near me, I'm lucky that I have the time and money to do so. But this isn't true for all. Sad that people lost out when the really shouldn't have too. I just hope that IF we make the final and IF it's at home the LTA at least recognise the demand and get a MUCH bigger venue for that X
We had a tie in Liverpool some years back.

[JerryD]

We had a tie in Liverpool some years back.
I was sure I replied ... When it was in Liverpool we us only just moved here and got the house so didn't have spare pennies for anything

[Chelis]

I was there in Liverpool. Unfortunately, after Andy's second singles match, a lot of the audience left, and Dan Evans still had to play his live decider match. Dan lost, but you would have thought people could have stayed. It wasn't even late.

[pabbers]

I was there in Liverpool. Unfortunately, after Andy's second singles match, a lot of the audience left, and Dan Evans still had to play his live decider match. Dan lost, but you would have thought people could have stayed. It wasn't even late.

But that was then and this is now........Andy wasn't a Grand Slam or Olympic champion and didn't have the following he does now.......not even in Glasgow at the outset IMHO.

[patmoren]

But that was then and this is now........Andy wasn't a Grand Slam or Olympic champion and didn't have the following he does now.......not even in Glasgow at the outset IMHO.
The tickets were cheaper too!!

[emjay1970]

Exactly. This is my gripe with DC and Wimbledon. Yes they can charge a lot and people will still come, but it prices out so many people. Tennis should be challenging elitism, it should be available at grass roots to all kids and families. Bottom line is it's not. Okay there are some initiatives but big, historic moments like this should be available to and accessed to all sections of society - not just those who can afford it (and I know for a lot of us that's barely..)

These momentous occasions should be harnessed to encourage and inspire our youngsters. TV access is great, but as we all know, being there is EVERYTHING!

Rant over.

M x

[Chelis]

But that was then and this is now........Andy wasn't a Grand Slam or Olympic champion and didn't have the following he does now.......not even in Glasgow at the outset IMHO.

I'm not sure that you read my post properly. The venue was full for Andy Murray, but I said that people left when it was Dan Evans turn.

[rouges]

I think it's Andy and Leon who decide venue, not LTA and our team and the visiting teams love Glasgow. Something Hewitt said and Isner said on fb.

[pabbers]

I think it's Andy and Leon who decide venue, not LTA and our team and the visiting teams love Glasgow. Something Hewitt said and Isner said on fb.

I'm sure you're right about Andy and Leon having major input. As for the oppo I'd be surprised if they didn't say the same wherever the British venue. If they've only been to one then they don't know any different. I'm sure the French loved Queens.

[RosieBear]

Exactly. This is my gripe with DC and Wimbledon. Yes they can charge a lot and people will still come, but it prices out so many people. Tennis should be challenging elitism, it should be available at grass roots to all kids and families. Bottom line is it's not. Okay there are some initiatives but big, historic moments like this should be available to and accessed to all sections of society - not just those who can afford it (and I know for a lot of us that's barely..)

These momentous occasions should be harnessed to encourage and inspire our youngsters. TV access is great, but as we all know, being there is EVERYTHING!

Rant over.

M x

Thank you! Could not agree more. Every single word. Whilst not right, Wimbledon has always been elitist, but what saddens me is how DC can't really be described as 'the people's tennis' any longer. DC was always accessible, relatively inexpensive and raucous - basically the perfect event to get youngsters hooked. It's great that more people attend because of Andy, but the LTA should have harnessed his stardom in a far better way. Their number one mandate is to grow tennis in this country - that means keeping ticket prices low, playing ties in big venues and most importantly holding ties *all around the UK*. The LTA have done exactly the opposite. Instead of using Andy's popularity and DC to break down elitism they have made DC more elitist.:sad:

My rant is also over.

The semi is going to be AMAZING!!!! Cannot wait. Let's go GB!!!! :GBflag::GBflag::GBflag: #backthebrits.

[rouges]

Correct me if I am wrong but haven't both L Hewitt and Isner played at Queens, many times the former. Am sure the French boys would enjoy the atmosphere @ the Emirates too, given the chance. Wardy said he had never experienced anything like it in his life . Just saying.

[-J-]

Ties in Scotland are just about the only time the Murray brothers get to come back to their family home I find it astonishing folk begrudge them having the opportunity. But don't worry there is no chance any potential final will be played anywhere other than London if it's a home tie

[RosieBear]

Ties in Scotland are just about the only time the Murray brothers get to come back to their family home I find it astonishing folk begrudge them having the opportunity. But don't worry there is no chance any potential final will be played anywhere other than London if it's a home tie

Honestly do not get this thinking. It's akin to saying that Portugal's big home football matches should be held in a titchy arena in Madeira so their star player can be close to home. Just isn't the way international sport operates (apart from DC, that is, and more specifically DC in this country because Spain doesn't insist on holding it's ties in Manacor).
And had the final been at home last year it would have been in a massive venue in Cardiff not London.:thumbup:

[lovetennis]

My view is that the LTA are stuck scrabbling around for venues at extremely short notice, these places get booked up a year in advance and there is rarely a 10 day vacant slot on the precise dates they need. It gets even harder with each round as the minimum capacity requirement increases. Basically the LTA have to take what they can get, whether it be Scotland, Wales or England.
I totally agree with Rosie Bear about lost opportunities to grow the game, the prices have put paid to that. At least there's a reduced price for children this time but it's still too expensive by the time the accompanying adult has paid too.

[-J-]

Honestly do not get this thinking. It's akin to saying that Portugal's big home football matches should be held in a titchy arena in Madeira so their star player can be close to home. Just isn't the way international sport operates (apart from DC, that is, and more specifically DC in this country because Spain doesn't insist on holding it's ties in Manacor).
And had the final been hat home last year it would have been in a massive venue in Cardiff not London.:thumbup:very easy not to get that thinking when the three major tennis events In the UK are all on your door step don't hear anything about that damaging the growth of the game

[emjay1970]

very easy not to get that thinking when the three major tennis events In the UK are all on your door step don't hear anything about that damaging the growth of the game

I live in Scotland too, and I agree, after living up here for quite a few years now how London-centric everything is, from major events to the weather forecast on the BBC ("We've had a lovely dry spell..." Have we???). I do think that has a massive impact on sports growth generally. However I genuinely don't get it with the DC. As Rosie pointed out - last year the final would have been in Cardiff, and if Glasgow hadn't been available for the semi it wouldn't have surprised me in the least if Scotland had bagged the final. I mean there's not exactly precedent here. We haven't had a home final yet. The biggest games so far have been the semi finals and both have been in Glasgow.

[pabbers]

Correct me if I am wrong but haven't both L Hewitt and Isner played at Queens, many times the former. Am sure the French boys would enjoy the atmosphere @ the Emirates too, given the chance. Wardy said he had never experienced anything like it in his life . Just saying.
Yes but not in DC and I think the argument is that the atmosphere in Glasgow is better than elsewhere. I beg to differ. Atmosphere at the DC is generally great wherever it is........it's the fans that make it so, not the geographical location, just as we did in Belgrade when Serbian fans were thin on the ground. What a noise we made!!!

[RosieBear]

very easy not to get that thinking when the three major tennis events In the UK are all on your door step don't hear anything about that damaging the growth of the game

Two events in London are so established they will never be moved, nothing to be said about that. But 100% think WTF should have been given to somewhere else, Cardiff or Newcastle would have been my choices. My first thought when I mistakenly thought Lavers Cup was also going to be at O2 London was how unfair it would have been. Where I live has nothing to do with my views on the bigger picture.

[pabbers]

Taking DC from one extreme of our country to the other is of dubious benefit to the sport. I've long thought somewhere central and easily accessible to all would make most sense. But of course it all depends on venue availability and choice of surface. And this from someone who lives in Wales (often forgotten) where I would dearly love to see a DC tie but concede that it's another extremity geographically.

[Josephine]

Like someone said, they have very little choice of available venue in such a short space of time. The whole DC needs reforming to change that.

Obviously Leon and Andy like Glasgow because they tend to win there. And as they have so little choice that is their biggest consideration.

For final they may need somewhere bigger and who knows where as the rugby venue funnily enough is being used for rugby. Not much recent history of DC semis and finals in UK and don't think there will be that much in the near future, so I guess they haven't considered a dedicated venue!!

[patlowe]

Having now been to quite a few DC ties in different venues and experienced (and indeed acquired quite an appetite for) the amazing atmosphere created by the fans, I'm happy to go anywhere for a tie!! (talking mainly about UK here though Ghent was unforgettable!). The DC ties are just so special, and I think, pabbers, you were spot on when you said that it's the fans that make it! You all did a wonderful job in Serbia...it came across loud and clear on telly! Just made me wish I could have been there with you all!

[-J-]

Two events in London are so established they will never be moved, nothing to be said about that. But 100% think WTF should have been given to somewhere else, Cardiff or Newcastle would have been my choices. My first thought when I mistakenly thought Lavers Cup was also going to be at O2 London was how unfair it would have been. Where I live has nothing to do with my views on the bigger picture.
maybe you dont but living where you do obviously shapes us all and i cant help thinking equating scotland to being the uk equivelent of portuguese and spannish islands demonstrates how deeply ingrained these things can be ;)


Honestly do not get this thinking. It's akin to saying that Portugal's big home football matches should be held in a titchy arena in Madeira so their star player can be close to home. Just isn't the way international sport operates (apart from DC, that is, and more specifically DC in this country because Spain doesn't insist on holding it's ties in Manacor).
And had the final been at home last year it would have been in a massive venue in Cardiff not London.:thumbup:

[Alis]

Honestly do not get this thinking. It's akin to saying that Portugal's big home football matches should be held in a titchy arena in Madeira so their star player can be close to home. Just isn't the way international sport operates (apart from DC, that is, and more specifically DC in this country because Spain doesn't insist on holding it's ties in Manacor).


That is a rather provocative statement, RB. I really don't think you can equate Scotland to a 'titchy area in Madiera' without expecting a backlash. I could understand your argument if Andy and Jamie came from the Hebrides but maybe you're just deliberately trying to wind J up!;)

[-J-]

That is a rather provocative statement, RB. I really don't think you can equate Scotland to a 'titchy area in Madiera' without expecting a backlash. I could understand your argument if Andy and Jamie came from the Hebrides but maybe you're just deliberately trying to wind J up!;):lol: to be fair to rosie the bear she did say titchy arena tho it was still a titchy arena on a titchy island

[RosieBear]

maybe you dont but living where you do obviously shapes us all and i cant help thinking equating scotland to being the uk equivelent of portuguese and spannish islands demonstrates how deeply ingrained these things can be ;)

I was talking about just Glasgow, not Scotland. Folk in Aberdeen, Dundee etc who can't travel to Glasgow deserve a local tie, just as much as folk in Cardiff, Newcastle etc and if the LTA moved things around fairly, they might just get one. Comparisons of *Glasgow* were made to Madeira and Manacur, to reject the argument that Glasgow has some special claim on the grounds that it's Andy's home town. I'm pretty sure that if, in a hypothetical scenario, loads of Spanish fans were frequently left without tickets because, despite big venues in Barca, Madrid, etc being available the authorities kept on holding it in an 8,000 Manacor arena, people would think that a bizarre decision. The point holds.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree.:thumbup:

[RosieBear]

That is a rather provocative statement, RB. I really don't think you can equate Scotland to a 'titchy area in Madiera' without expecting a backlash. I could understand your argument if Andy and Jamie came from the Hebrides but maybe you're just deliberately trying to wind J up!;)

Sorry Alis, but where have I 'equated Scotland' to anywhere? :confused:

[Alis]

Mea culpa - sorry people, another case of reading what I thought was there rather than what was there. No wonder I always had 'quick but careless' on my school reports!!

[Josephine]

Not many people can't travel from Dundee or Aberdeen to get to Glasgow, unless they have mobility issues which is another matter all together. Glasgow is a major city in a densely populated area - can't really compare to Mallorca.

[RosieBear]

Mea culpa - sorry people, another case of reading what I thought was there rather than what was there. No wonder I always had 'quick but careless' on my school reports!!

Easily done. But just so you know, I'd *never* talk Scotland down...(not even to wind J up:p)

[Teresa]

Scotland is Great, Ireland is Great (both Northern and Southern), Wales is Great, England is Great. Viva La Difference and all that. Combined we beat everyone but The USA in the Olympics. Some bits are easier than others for some of us to get to. Let's celebrate the whole, including two lads from Dunblane, The Sea Eagles on Mull, The Otters on Mull and Shetland and other places, plus the Gannets and Puffins.

[-J-]

Scotland is Great, Ireland is Great (both Northern and Southern), Wales is Great, England is Great. Viva La Difference and all that. Combined we beat everyone but The USA in the Olympics. Some bits are easier than others for some of us to get to. Let's celebrate the whole, including two lads from Dunblane, The Sea Eagles on Mull, The Otters on Mull and Shetland and other places, plus the Gannets and Puffins.
What's wrong with the sea eagles of Harris they are every bit as spectacular as those on mull and we have gannets otters and the occasional puffin ;)

[Teresa]

What's wrong with the sea eagles of Harris they are every bit as spectacular as those on mull and we have gannets otters and the occasional puffin ;)

Harris has Rodel Church, in my top three favourite buildings. Should I ever meet my knight in shining armour (no laughing please), that would be my chosen location. I have never met otters or sea eagles on Harris - although it has delivered porpoises. I have the greatest of affection for Harris it helped me get my head together after my first fairly traumatic hip replacement.

[-J-]

Harris has Rodel Church, in my top three favourite buildings. Should I ever meet my knight in shining armour (no laughing please), that would be my chosen location. I have never met otters or sea eagles on Harris - although it has delivered porpoises. I have the greatest of affection for Harris it helped me get my head together after my first fairly traumatic hip replacement.
Rodel hotel is up for sale if you have a spare £650,000

[supergran]

I live in St Helens very close to the East Lancashire Road (drivers will know the number) which leads directly to Liverpool going West and Manchester travelling East. Two great cities which would be quite accessible for those North of the Border and fans South of Watford traveling by car, train and plane. Missed the Liverpool tie as we were on holiday in the U.S. and would love it if it was there again. In recent years it has never been held in Manchester which is a shame. The city is not that important as agree with others who say it is the fans. Wherever it is we are hailed for our fantastic support though recently to my chagrin BBC seem to imply that the few rows of the Barmy Army do it all. The D.C. has had a tremendous following in the last few years but it always has had enthusiastic support. I remember watching the Lloyd brothers on television and thinking how I would love to be a part of the enthusiastic crowd of supporters who were so different from the Wimbledon crowd in those days. The popularity of the Davis Cup is so strong now and it's the fans who create the atmosphere the players love but it would be the same anywhere, so yes perhaps a few more venues in different cities might be welcomed by the supporters who willingly travel anywhere to cheer on the team.

[patlowe]

Totally agree Maureen. I also share your chagrin with the reporters and commies etc who imply that the Barmy Army are the ONLY raucous and faithful supporters. I think the BA are great, but so too are the other supporters and it would be so nice if they could be acknowledged on TV too. Perhaps your large flag will do the trick in Glasgow!!!

[Rosalind]

Totally agree Maureen. I also share your chagrin with the reporters and commies etc who imply that the Barmy Army are the ONLY raucous and faithful supporters. I think the BA are great, but so too are the other supporters and it would be so nice if they could be acknowledged on TV too. Perhaps your large flag will do the trick in Glasgow!!!

I agree that reporters on TV are annoying with their references only to the BA and I have tweeted them and Castle specifically regarding it... let's see if it works this time.
I also agree that the BA bring something to the party as do the other fan groups. One of them generously gave me his BA jacket in Ghent. Depending on the temperature, I might wear it in Glasgow when sitting with AMFF members for the first time... hope that's ok ! :jitterbug:

[JerryD]

I have to say that I think (we) the fans, make the atmosphere regardless of location. Given all the fans were able to bring in Belgium, Serbia, Birmingham and queens, there doesn't need to be a fear that the support will be lessened through a change in location. I don't begrudge matches in Scotland and I will travel, I travelled to Serbia 2 months ago so a drive to Glasgow isn't what bothers me. It took less time to drive to Glasgow in September than it took for me to drive to the wTF or wimbie or queens. What concerns me is that all fans and players are represented. It's easy for me, I have the time, money and inclination to travel but many don't. I'd like to see a tie in the north of England, maybe Yorkshire for Kyle. A tie in Wales. London is great for its huge arenas but not ideal for me as it's far and expensive. I would like to see a rule in place that there can be no two ties in the same place in one year. But that wouldn't change this tie as it hasn't been in Glasgow this year. It's a real shame Millenium is booked up if we were to make the final. But I'm certain that wherever the ties are held the fan support will be fantastic. And I look forward to seeing you all in Glasgow :)

[Josephine]

I was at Queens last year DC for the Sunday, obviously not with AMFF. Andy v Simon.

The people around me were supporting, but not madly. One lady in front of me was clearly an Andy fan and was living it all and being supported by her friend. All GB folk were enthusiastic supporters ( I was also next to a nice French couple) but no great Andy fandom at all. That isn't compulsory and the support was there but it was not great for him personally. Someone at the end said, Come on Wardy, - in a sort of someone we can really support at last kind of way (of course the last match was not played). So there is more to a crowd than the supporter groups and clearly Glasgow will have more enthusiasm for Andy and Jamie.

Having said that I do not mean it as an argument that DC should always be in Glasgow - I think it should move around the country. Just that the crowd is not only the groups.

[RosieBear]

I have to say that I think (we) the fans, make the atmosphere regardless of location. Given all the fans were able to bring in Belgium, Serbia, Birmingham and queens, there doesn't need to be a fear that the support will be lessened through a change in location. I don't begrudge matches in Scotland and I will travel, I travelled to Serbia 2 months ago so a drive to Glasgow isn't what bothers me. It took less time to drive to Glasgow in September than it took for me to drive to the wTF or wimbie or queens. What concerns me is that all fans and players are represented. It's easy for me, I have the time, money and inclination to travel but many don't. I'd like to see a tie in the north of England, maybe Yorkshire for Kyle. A tie in Wales. London is great for its huge arenas but not ideal for me as it's far and expensive. I would like to see a rule in place that there can be no two ties in the same place in one year. But that wouldn't change this tie as it hasn't been in Glasgow this year. It's a real shame Millenium is booked up if we were to make the final. But I'm certain that wherever the ties are held the fan support will be fantastic. And I look forward to seeing you all in Glasgow :)

Great post, Jerry – I agree with everything you’ve said – but especially the highlighted points.

I absolutely do not begrudge Glasgow having ties – in fact, even though I live in Kent, Glasgow is the cheapest and easiest location in the whole of the UK for me because I have a great friend in Lanark who I can and have stayed with for ties, who drops in the city etc – literally just costs me the ticket and inexpensive flight. If I came at the topic from an individual, selfish perspective I would want Glasgow every time! But I never want to lose sight of the fact that just because I am lucky enough to be able to attend anywhere in the UK, that is not the case for many, many people. The reality for many fans is that while they maybe able to afford tickets, additional travel and accommodation costs price them out and their only hope of attending is if the tie is local to them. I feel that those fortunate enough to attend anywhere should be supporting those who can’t by calling for it to be moved around otherwise it just boils down to the haves and the have nots. And sorry Josephine, I have to disagree with your previous post that people in Aberdeen can pretty much reach Glasgow, unless they have got mobility issues – for many people the £30-40 fare and more than 3hr journey (i.e. probable need for accommodation) would be a barrier to many. More local ties, including other Scottish locations, would massively help people, and I really believe that is what the LTA should be doing.

Like Jerry I would like to see rule whereby no single venue can have more than 1 tie a year. I would also like the minimum arena capacity rules to be looked at – host countries have varying budgets and demand for tickets so I feel there should be more tailored requirements rather than a blanket 8,000 requirement for world group semis. For perspective, Leon’s first match as captain was GB v Turkey, a lowly match when we were playing to avoid relegation to the deepest depths. It was played in front of an (almost full) 8,000 crowd at Eastbourne. I find it completely baffling and sad that world group semis featuring a megastar of the sport have been made available to the same amount of people. I would welcome a change in capacity rules that pushes the wealthy LTA in to providing more.

Sorry, but there is no escaping the fact that fairness requires holding ties in big venues all around the UK (including the Hydro at Glasgow).

P.s. sorry for the long post :shamed:, but I feel these issues are important.

[Josephine]

OK so why is it in Glasgow? Because no other suitable arenas were available or because Leon thinks it is their best chance of getting to final - which is the MOST important thing for him? I genuinely don't know. But presume one of these reasons.

[pabbers]

OK so why is it in Glasgow? Because no other suitable arenas were available or because Leon thinks it is their best chance of getting to final - which is the MOST important thing for him? I genuinely don't know. But presume one of these reasons.
Why would it be there best chance of getting to the final?

They managed fine in Serbia - an away tie on clay! So why not elsewhere in the UK?

[glenys]

The LTA have the problem that they have very little time to organise a venue. They could I suppose "pre book" up 4 venues for each of the dates during the year (1 per tie). However, this still leaves them with the issue where Rugby (Cardiff) and other events take precedent (and usually book up years in advance) I am unsure if an organisation books an arena then no longer needs it (we fail to progress, as an example) if they would still be charged a "booking" fee. I'm sure the LTA doesn't want to be seen as "wasting" money etc

BTW no, I do not work for the LTA i'm just trying to see it from their point of view - yes they get loads of money in (apparently) but they still have over-heads and everything else.

I feel for Cathie having to try and find venues with like about 6 weeks notice

[glenys]

Incidentally - I'd love a tie in Kent as that is local to me (and Rosiebear ;) ) - it's not ever going to happen and I live with that. I've only been to Queens once, and that was for the DC last year - never gone during the event, never been to Wimbledon during the event - I find it a bit expensive.

My tennis events seem to be DC (Glasgow, Queens, Ghent, Birmingham and Glasgow again) and Nottingham (which I'm doing again next year!)

[Stell]

I know we played a Davis Cup tie against Belgium in 1924 in Torquay, but I doubt the LTA would ever chose it. Maybe, the LTA might think outside the box and go out of their comfort zone and choose somewhere we've never been before, if we get to the final and get Croatia. They did it with Bolton, a few years ago, though everyone had to queue outside for the toilets.

[WimbledonWestie]

Queuing outside for toilets in November does not appeal! Lol!

[Rosalind]

Surely it has to be somewhere with a lot of hotel rooms and a suitable arena. This must cut down the possibilities somewhat.

The downside of us winning all the time is ... we have to keep buying tickets and spending a lot of money every 3 months! It's the only downside of course! :GBflag:

[WimbledonWestie]

There are rules regarding how near an international airport the tie is held- not sure which rounds this applies to but deffo semis and final. And final is meant to be in a capital city or similar sized city- which I assume is to do with travel links and accommodation.

[Josephine]

Why would it be there best chance of getting to the final?

They managed fine in Serbia - an away tie on clay! So why not elsewhere in the UK?

Against a severely depleted Serbia! Their best chance of getting to the final is not choosing a sodden, slow clay court, but a venue and surface which they know suits Andy very well indeed. Leon said Glasgow in on court interview after winning in Serbia,so I presume he had a reason for that. What is the reason then if it is not that plus lack of available alternatives??

Anyway once Andy retires and Edmund is GB number 1, there will be no more Glasgow ties. Leon will be gone by then too of course.

[Caro]

I have nothing against ties in Glasgow. I really like the city but totally agree with RB and Jerry that a) a DC semi final should be in as big an arena as possible (and yes I know availability is an issue) and b) yes, it should move around the country. I am also lucky that I can afford to travel (although the last 2 years has been a big stretch) and I live in a central location. When the tie was in Birmingham lots of friends and colleagues got the opportunity to go. One friend has a 6 years old son who is nuts about tennis and Andy in particular. If you could have seen the excitement on his face and light in his eyes before his day at the DC .... kids ( and grown ups!)) in cities all over the UK deserve that chance don't they?

[Josephine]

I don't disagree with one word.

But why in your opinion is it being held in Glasgow?

[Sallydaisy]

Am I right in thinking that Glasgow City Council 'own' or are part owners of the Emirates?
In which case perhaps they're able to offer preferential rates to attract sports, especially when featuring well known local lads, to the venue. That could be the simplest explanation as to why they've got this, and other ties, over the larger capacity Hydro which might be less able to offer a deal.

[Hawkeye]

I thought it was well known that the reason the ticket prices in Glasgow have been lower than elsewhere was because Glasgow CC were sweetening the deal.

[Jan62]

I think the biggest obstacle to moving ties around the country is availability of suitable indoor venues. The minimum seating capacity rules for DC ties make that even trickier. We know that concert tours for bands book up venues months and years in advance, so it does make the LTA's job harder. Add to that we are not talking about having a venue just for 3 days for the tie - its at least 10 days, because they have to lay the court and allow practice time.

I don't think its realistic to expect the LTA to make lots of advance block bookings years in advance for DC, because you can bet there is a huge deposit to be paid to reserve space and a mighty cancellation fee as well. So if they booked up lots of venues now say for 2017 and 2018, then in R1 we have an away tie - first cancellation, QF away tie (another cancellation) and we fail to make SF - there's another 2 cancellations (SF and F). And I know we all complain at how wealthy the LTA is, but good governance would suggest that throwing money away on provisional bookings is not the way to get a fairer deal for fans.

All that said, I do hope that they have somewhere booked just in case its needed for a home final in November. Because as far as I can see from looking at all the possibilities I can think of (including a Google search of indoor sports venues in the UK), everywhere that might be in any way suitable already has Simply Red, Jess Glynn, Rod Stewart or international rugby booked for the weekend of the tie and the run up!!

The LTA will never please everyone, whatever they do. I am totally biased and love that Glasgow gets the nod frequently, because its great to have Andy and Jamie playing at home (and its nice and easy for me to get to!!). And whatever anyone says about "but they're British and live in London so anywhere in the UK is home" - well, ok, but "home" home is Scotland. Same argument could be made for Dan Evans getting to play in Birmingham or Kyle in Yorkshire. Personally I think we could fill the O2 easily certainly for a SF or Final, but realistically that venue is never going to be available unless the LTA book it now for 2018/19/20. Risky strategy.

We have lots of amazing sports venues but they tend to be football or rugby grounds - so unless we can find a way to throw a massive tent over Old Trafford/Murrayfield/Twickenham or similar, and persuade the relevant football or rugby authority to make it available for tennis, then we have to face the fact that we seem to be seriously short of suitable indoor arenas for large capacity sports crowds. The Millenium Stadium in Cardiff would be perfect, since its got a roof, but for some reason in the winter they seem to want it for rugby matches. Bad planning!

Sorry, rambling and ranting......

[Silverdee]

A future venue perhaps when Court One at Wimbledon has a roof?

[angiebabez]

I have nothing against ties in Glasgow. I really like the city but totally agree with RB and Jerry that a) a DC semi final should be in as big an arena as possible (and yes I know availability is an issue) and b) yes, it should move around the country. I am also lucky that I can afford to travel (although the last 2 years has been a big stretch) and I live in a central location. When the tie was in Birmingham lots of friends and colleagues got the opportunity to go. One friend has a 6 years old son who is nuts about tennis and Andy in particular. If you could have seen the excitement on his face and light in his eyes before his day at the DC .... kids ( and grown ups!)) in cities all over the UK deserve that chance don't they?

If its the wee boy i was sitting next too on the Sunday? I can confirm he brought tears to my eyes with the excitement on his face when andy walked in. Aww

[angiebabez]

Great post jan 62 :thumbup:

[Josephine]

I think the biggest obstacle to moving ties around the country is availability of suitable indoor venues. The minimum seating capacity rules for DC ties make that even trickier. We know that concert tours for bands book up venues months and years in advance, so it does make the LTA's job harder. Add to that we are not talking about having a venue just for 3 days for the tie - its at least 10 days, because they have to lay the court and allow practice time.

I don't think its realistic to expect the LTA to make lots of advance block bookings years in advance for DC, because you can bet there is a huge deposit to be paid to reserve space and a mighty cancellation fee as well. So if they booked up lots of venues now say for 2017 and 2018, then in R1 we have an away tie - first cancellation, QF away tie (another cancellation) and we fail to make SF - there's another 2 cancellations (SF and F). And I know we all complain at how wealthy the LTA is, but good governance would suggest that throwing money away on provisional bookings is not the way to get a fairer deal for fans.

All that said, I do hope that they have somewhere booked just in case its needed for a home final in November. Because as far as I can see from looking at all the possibilities I can think of (including a Google search of indoor sports venues in the UK), everywhere that might be in any way suitable already has Simply Red, Jess Glynn, Rod Stewart or international rugby booked for the weekend of the tie and the run up!!

The LTA will never please everyone, whatever they do. I am totally biased and love that Glasgow gets the nod frequently, because its great to have Andy and Jamie playing at home (and its nice and easy for me to get to!!). And whatever anyone says about "but they're British and live in London so anywhere in the UK is home" - well, ok, but "home" home is Scotland. Same argument could be made for Dan Evans getting to play in Birmingham or Kyle in Yorkshire. Personally I think we could fill the O2 easily certainly for a SF or Final, but realistically that venue is never going to be available unless the LTA book it now for 2018/19/20. Risky strategy.

We have lots of amazing sports venues but they tend to be football or rugby grounds - so unless we can find a way to throw a massive tent over Old Trafford/Murrayfield/Twickenham or similar, and persuade the relevant football or rugby authority to make it available for tennis, then we have to face the fact that we seem to be seriously short of suitable indoor arenas for large capacity sports crowds. The Millenium Stadium in Cardiff would be perfect, since its got a roof, but for some reason in the winter they seem to want it for rugby matches. Bad planning!

Sorry, rambling and ranting......

Yes great post. Thank you for all that effort. This is the reality - we may want some things to be different but the circumstances limit choice and clearly with these limits Leon, Andy etc think Glasgow is best available venue in terms of having ideal court layed and atmosphere.

[WimbledonWestie]

Another consideration which we won't really know about is the quality of facilities that can be made available behind the scenes as it were for the players and staff. This may also impact decisions on venues.

[JAMES4578]

Just to let all concerned know that I'll give it another week before deciding on the pricing for the bus to/from The Emirates. I've paid a deposit and will pay the balance around a week beforehand,can PM details if folk can pay prior to the tie. It turned out I got an incorrect quote initially and so unlikely to be cheaper than last year. At he moment the bus is not full (4 spaces on all journeys and a few more on onward journeys Friday/Saturday) and if no one else joins cost will be around £7.00 per journey, a bit less otherwise. Therefore if anyone needs to drop out or alternatively add to list can you please inform me asap,you can obviously contact if any queries.

[WimbledonWestie]

Not ignoring your pm- need to speak to my buddies, will let u know asap!

[JimmyG]

Great stuff Jan.
I think it's at least 14 days they need the venue for and since Emirates only does sporting events there is a better chance it will be available than other venues.

I'd love to see the list the LTA have submitted for possible final venues as I have no idea what they might have planned.

[JimmyG]

Really don't like the idea of limiting a venue to 1 tie per year, available venues are already in short supply without restricting it further.
If either of Manchester Arena or The O2 was available for a semi & final then it would be mad to rule it out on such a basis.

I'm not yet convinced The Hydro is suitable for a 'proper' tennis event, it's the wrong shape and I don't think the roof height question has been answered.
Will be interesting to see how the exhibition lark-about event goes.

[supergran]

Just like to say that I love Glasgow. It was there that I attended my first Davis Cup tie at Braehead and met fans who have become my lovely friends. Always happy to get on that Virgin train to Glasgow Central.

[WimbledonWestie]

Aw thanks SG. Never met any of u at Braehead but have very special memories of those ties.

[JerryD]

Just to let all concerned know that I'll give it another week before deciding on the pricing for the bus to/from The Emirates. I've paid a deposit and will pay the balance around a week beforehand,can PM details if folk can pay prior to the tie. It turned out I got an incorrect quote initially and so unlikely to be cheaper than last year. At he moment the bus is not full (4 spaces on all journeys and a few more on onward journeys Friday/Saturday) and if no one else joins cost will be around £7.00 per journey, a bit less otherwise. Therefore if anyone needs to drop out or alternatively add to list can you please inform me asap,you can obviously contact if any queries.

James we have no ended u with a hotel in the middle of nowhere do will have to drive in anyway, and font need the minibus. Sorry but thank you x

[hfwardhouse]

James there might only be me now but will let u know after the weekend... Happy to pay for the second seat as I'd booked it!

[ally]

I booked my parking today. They really know how to rack up the charges, costs included ticket fee then £1.50 to email ticket confirmation or £3.50 to post!!! Opted for email obviously but feel conned by that charge.:grrr:

[Alis]

£3.50 to post - that's ridiculous!!

[WimbledonWestie]

£1.50 to send an email. Maybe I should start charging my boss for all the documents I need to send her!

[Passionanda]

Really don't like the idea of limiting a venue to 1 tie per year, available venues are already in short supply without restricting it further.
If either of Manchester Arena or The O2 was available for a semi & final then it would be mad to rule it out on such a basis.

I'm not yet convinced The Hydro is suitable for a 'proper' tennis event, it's the wrong shape and I don't think the roof height question has been answered.
Will be interesting to see how the exhibition lark-about event goes.
Totally agree with you, James......never, ever liked the idea of the Hydro as a tennis venue for the reasons you've given!!

[WimbledonWestie]

The exho will be a good way to gauge what it's like- I shall happily assess its suitability!

[Stell]

I know what you mean, ally. I had to pay the £3.50 for them to send my tickets through the post, as I always have problems with them everytime they send via my email address. I'll be using the free car park, which is near the stadium.

[suttontennis]

I booked my parking today. They really know how to rack up the charges, costs included ticket fee then £1.50 to email ticket confirmation or £3.50 to post!!! Opted for email obviously but feel conned by that charge.:grrr:

where did you book your tickets at ? I can't see it on the ticket factory site.

[JerryD]

You have to call up for the parking ... 08445814920 7p a minute though X

[JerryD]

I know what you mean, ally. I had to pay the £3.50 for them to send my tickets through the post, as I always have problems with them everytime they send via my email address. I'll be using the free car park, which is near the stadium.

Be very careful with this if it is actually the car park for the shopping centre and then another for the supermarkets. They have signs saying customers only and cctv. But that's not the issue they can't really tell who is a customer. The issue is that then you end up over staying more than the Max time. Doing this elsewhere we recently got a £79 fine!!

[JerryD]

It is a joke though £10 a day for parking which ends up be over £35 in the end with fees. However still cheaper than on the day which would be 45 for 3 days

[Caro]

If its the wee boy i was sitting next too on the Sunday? I can confirm he brought tears to my eyes with the excitement on his face when andy walked in. Aww Yep, that was him Angie. His mum says he sits and watches whole matches on TV or DVDs of Andy's matches. I can't imagine most 6 year olds doing that!

Anyway, I can't wait for Glasgow in 3 weeks time! Bring it on :excited::excited: .... And just for the record, in case anyone was thinking otherwise, I have absolutely nothing against Glasgow, other than the travel costs which I have been more than happy to pay over the years (I've been to every tie there). I love Glasgow and all the friends I have made there.

[ally]

Be very careful with this if it is actually the car park for the shopping centre and then another for the supermarkets. They have signs saying customers only and cctv. But that's not the issue they can't really tell who is a customer. The issue is that then you end up over staying more than the Max time. Doing this elsewhere we recently got a £79 fine!!


Yup, that's why I have booked my parking. At the retail park they don't like football supporters parking, so I am assuming this will be regarded in a similar way. Would rather pay the parking than a fine!

[JerryD]

My thoughts exactly. So annoyed with my fine from elsewhere. Other half sat in his car at a McDonald working and on conference calls (after getting Mccies to eat in the car), thought it wouldn't be a problem as he was a customer. But the Mccies only got him 2 hours and he was there for 2hrs 30. And yet still a massive fine. For thirty mins. Defoe not worth it for a whole day or even 3. Glad that this year you can get parking on all three days. Last year we had to find somewhere else for one of them.

[Hawkeye]

We're getting the Red Hot Chilli Pipers for pre-match entertainment.

[WimbledonWestie]

Fab!

[JerryD]

They are entertaining but I'd sooner have different things each day lol.

[ally]

They are entertaining but I'd sooner have different things each day lol.

Red Hot Chilli Pipers for 3 days beats the opera group hands down which we had to put up with at 2 ties last year, singing the same stuff. At least they will get the crowd buzzing.

[angiebabez]

We're getting the Red Hot Chilli Pipers for pre-match entertainment.

Ya beauty :bravo: :yahoo:

[roytennisfan]

We're getting the Red Hot Chilli Pipers for pre-match entertainment.
You have to wait till December if you want to see the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and not on in Glasgow so come to Manchester lol

[roytennisfan]

Btw the pipers are ok but they don't walk 500 miles

[Caro]

You have to wait till December if you want to see the Red Hot Chilli Peppers and not on in Glasgow so come to Manchester lol
I love the real Red Hot Chilli Peppers .... pity we can't have them!

[Kate Curler]

Am prepared to buy a Union flag and have it customised; ANDY MURRAY FAN FORUM. Need advice on size. Either 9 x 6 or 5 x 3 ft. What do you think?

Think that a flag to identify us is an excellent idea. My sister and I will gladly contribute.

[Hawkeye]

I love the real Red Hot Chilli Peppers .... pity we can't have them!They are touring the UK soon!

[angiebabez]

Just had a brand new shiny saltire pop thro my letterbox!

[roytennisfan]

I love the real Red Hot Chilli Peppers .... pity we can't have them!

Playing at Birmingham in December as well as Manchester and London, Hard to believe it is 5 years since last tour, saw them in Manchester

[suttontennis]

You have to call up for the parking ... 08445814920 7p a minute though X

booked today, thanks for help. Not cheap. I'm staying only a couple of miles away so I could walk or use the bus, but not speaking the lingo (I'm English) I'm not sure where all the buses go to and from.

[JAMES4578]

I have sent PM's to everyone who has expressed interest in the bus with regard to pricing and asking folk to confirm-thanks!

[Stell]

I used the same car park for the Sunday, last September. I saw no signs around saying how long I could park there and got no parking ticket.

[Stell]

I've sent the shopping centre an email and asked them how long everyone is allowed to park there. As I really didn't see any sign.

[JerryD]

I've sent the shopping centre an email and asked them how long everyone is allowed to park there. As I really didn't see any sign. when we went to the Costa there before Saturday's matches, we saw a sign (near the entrance) that said on match days there was a two hour limit, and overstays would be fined, but I didn't see what general rules where. There is a match on the Saturday I think so there may be the 2 hour limit in place then.

[JerryD]

Update to my earlier message, was talking about this with KevD and he reminded me that when we'd looked into the legislation after our fine (because someone had told him that they could only charge a local parking rates as fines were unenforceable by anyone other the council), we discovered that due to changes in legislation these fines are enforceable in England, but NOT in Scotland. I'm not advising that you park there and legislation could have changed since we went through our fine trouble, but at the time a number of sites said you get a demand but as they are unenforceable they didn't pay. For me if I get a demand I'd pay anyway. It was the other half furious with the overstaying fine who looked into it. X

[Hawkeye]

when we went to the Costa there before Saturday's matches, we saw a sign (near the entrance) that said on match days there was a two hour limit, and overstays would be fined, but I didn't see what general rules where. There is a match on the Saturday I think so there may be the 2 hour limit in place then."Match days" refers to matches at Celtic Park. Celtic are away from home that weekend.

[JerryD]

I know it refers to Celtic but I thought they were at home lol. I guess that explains why there is parking on everyday during this year's semi x

[jagmad]

Sorry I decided to remove this post as it wouldn't be to everyone's taste
;):sofa:;)

[angiebabez]

Sorry I decided to remove this post as it wouldn't be to everyone's taste
;):sofa:;)

What post

[Sallydaisy]

What post
You can't see it because Jagmad has edited it to remove the words and put up a sofa smiley.
His prerogative.

[Stell]

I've received an email back from the shopping centre and I've been told there is no time limit. So, anyone who got fined should appeal.

[jeannie13]

We're getting the Red Hot Chilli Pipers for pre-match entertainment.

Great!!!!!

[glenys]

Is it too early to pack? am travelling really light - ie will come up to Glasgow on the Saturday morning in what I plan to wear for the doubles. Will have something to sleep in and outfit for the Sunday which I will then travel home in

I need to decide which outfits to bring!

Tempted to bring my Ghent T-shirt to wear but is that for the Saturday or the Sunday?

[Guerkins2]

Is anyone on Friday morning 855 am flight from Gatwick? I have had a quick scroll through but can't see anyone.

[AllyB]

I've received an email back from the shopping centre and I've been told there is no time limit. So, anyone who got fined should appeal.

I have read that private parking fines aren't legally enforceable in Scotland and it's quite safe just to ignore them. Can't confirm that however, as despite parking in the Tesco car park at Silverburn regularly for well over 2 hours I have yet to receive a fine.

[-J-]

I have read that private parking fines aren't legally enforceable in Scotland and it's quite safe just to ignore them. Can't confirm that however, as despite parking in the Tesco car park at Silverburn regularly for well over 2 hours I have yet to receive a fine.parking on top of my old schoool lol

[AllyB]

Its a wonder my windows haven't been broken or my tyres slashed!

[angiebabez]

I have read that private parking fines aren't legally enforceable in Scotland and it's quite safe just to ignore them. Can't confirm that however, as despite parking in the Tesco car park at Silverburn regularly for well over 2 hours I have yet to receive a fine.

Not true...some private companies are trying to make a fast buck with replica fines. These can be ignored but official council ones must be paid

[glenys]

Anyone else flying from Gatwick Saturday morning?

[Guerkins2]

Anyone else flying from Gatwick Saturday morning?

Are you going back Sunday evening?

[AllyB]

Not true...some private companies are trying to make a fast buck with replica fines. These can be ignored but official council ones must be paid

Agreed. That's why I specifically said private parking fines.

[-J-]

Its a wonder my windows haven't been broken or my tyres slashed!massey tyres are hard to do

[AllyB]

Massey? No red rubbish here - green and yellow all the way.

[-J-]

Massey? No red rubbish here - green and yellow all the way.
Deerie me

[hfwardhouse]

Eh nothing wrong with Red......

[jagmad]

Is it too early to pack? am travelling really light - ie will come up to Glasgow on the Saturday morning in what I plan to wear for the doubles. Will have something to sleep in and outfit for the Sunday which I will then travel home in

I need to decide which outfits to bring!

Tempted to bring my Ghent T-shirt to wear but is that for the Saturday or the Sunday?

Hi glenys do you think I should wear mine?

http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/product/mens_t_shirts/keep-calm-and-don-t-mention-the-war-8/

[glenys]

Erm, seriously in my opinion NO

[glenys]

Yes I am

This was meant to be a reply to Guerkins

[-J-]

Hi glenys do you think I should wear mine?

http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/product/mens_t_shirts/keep-calm-and-don-t-mention-the-war-8/sure why not while your at it why not see if you can pick up a Falklands flag go the whole hog in insulting our guests

[Howdie65]

Re the thing about parking fines in Scotland - I know a bit about this:

The only bodies that can issue fixed penalty notice (FPN) are councils, police and the Driver and Vehicle Services Agency (its one of the Department for Transport's agencies and where I work!) as the relevant FPN offences must be written in legislation and there must be other legislation giving police, councils, DVSA the power to issue fixed penalties. Car parks do not have such powers. Car park will issue a parking fine which is very different from a fixed penalty notice although they will try to make it look like a fixed penalty notice though the wording they use - subtle but important differences here. In England there is legislation which requires the registered keeper of the car to cough up the name of the driver to these car parking companies and if they don't then the registered keeper has to pay instead. There is no such legislation in Scotland so the parking companies have to take you to court to enforce any parking fine however without knowing who the driver is how can the court summons the right person? Answer - they can't! Car parks will only have number plate recognition technology and are allowed to to access the DVLA database for registered keeper details which is how they can fire off a letter to your home address if you are the registered keeper.

If it was me I would ignore car park fine letters in Scotland and let the car parking company pursue you although its highly unlikely they will because they cannot force you to divulge who the owner is and hence will struggle to take a case to court which is the only way to force you to pay. Then there is the issue of their costs if they try so not worth their while. Don't respond at all and leave the ball in their court because if you respond it gives them something to work on and you might buckle and pay. They will get a lot of people paying because they don't know the law so its still worth their while to send the letters.

Must emphasise that should you follow my advice it is at your own risk but its a calculated risk. Also bear in mind that they send a lot of letters ordinary mail so they have no proof you ever received it. If you sign for a "signed for" letter make sure your signature is unreadable!!

Please DO NOT ignore fixed penalty notices issued by councils, police or DVSA (unlikely you would get one from DVSA though as we generally only deal with larger vehicles like lorries and buses) as they have more powers to pursue you, so if you're guilty its best to cough up the dosh quick!

[Josephine]

Yes. I went through all this with Smart Parking in Perth. I did pay for parking but instructions were unclear and I didn't have proof. Letter came to my husband but I made the mistake of attempting to appeal so then they knew the driver ( car was not registered to me). They ignore appeals and will later deny you ever did it as it is online only.

Around a dozen letters followed but I checked various websites and sat it out. They don't call it a fine as they cannot impose that but a parking charge. I had 2 different companies contact me to threaten to take me to court, tried to contact Smart Parking again but they then denied I had ever appealed. I held out - because I had genuinely paid. Read loads more stories about the dreadful way these companies operate. Charging huge amounts to pensioners because they confused a letter with a number to enter their registration number. Anyway, finally the letters stopped. As explained above they won't go to court for such a small amount and they can't always prove anything anyway. But you do have to hold your nerve as threatening letters are obviously intimidating.

As emphasised above this only applies to privately owned car parks in Scotland.

[Howdie65]

Yes. I went through all this with Smart Parking in Perth. I did pay for parking but instructions were unclear and I didn't have proof. Letter came to my husband but I made the mistake of attempting to appeal so then they knew the driver ( car was not registered to me). They ignore appeals and will later deny you ever did it as it is online only.

Around a dozen letters followed but I checked various websites and sat it out. They don't call it a fine as they cannot impose that but a parking charge. I had 2 different companies contact me to threaten to take me to court, tried to contact Smart Parking again but they then denied I had ever appealed. I held out - because I had genuinely paid. Read loads more stories about the dreadful way these companies operate. Charging huge amounts to pensioners because they confused a letter with a number to enter their registration number. Anyway, finally the letters stopped. As explained above they won't go to court for such a small amount and they can't always prove anything anyway. But you do have to hold your nerve as threatening letters are obviously intimidating.

As emphasised above this only applies to privately owned car parks in Scotland.

Yes, I had forgotten they put on the notices something like Penalty Parking Charge or similar to make people think its an official notice. I wrote that post at work and didn't have all my notes on it which are on my home computer so was doing it from memory.

The experience you had bears out other stories I have heard and so its true that if you respond to them they will harrass you hoping you give in. Well done for not doing so. The charges they apply are out of proportion.

Martin Lewis covers this subject on Money Saving Expert website but its more for dealing with cases in England/Wales which you have less chance of getting out of.

[jagmad]

So here's one I was toying with:
1123

I don't know if it will come out OK as I have never had much luck attaching photos on here.
:facepalm:

[glenys]

Are you going back Sunday evening?

This is what I tried to reply to over the page!

Yes I am flying back Sunday evening you?

[Guerkins2]

This is what I tried to reply to over the page!

Yes I am flying back Sunday evening you?
Yes I am on 855 pm easy jet to Gatwick

[glenys]

Yes I am on 855 pm easy jet to Gatwick

I'll see ya there :D same flight excellent - i've already checked in online, but can't remember my seat number LOL

[Sallydaisy]

I'll see ya there :D same flight excellent - i've already checked in online, but can't remember my seat number LOL
erm, you'll have already seen her on Sat/Sun at the tennis ... you could even share a taxi to the airport.
:lol:

[hfwardhouse]

:rofl:

[Jan62]

For those of us with UJ stetsons - are you planning to wear them in Glasgow? Just thinking about what to bring......

[Niknak's Mum]

Still gutted not to be able to join you all in Glasgow ... how inconsiderate of the Universities to start the term on the same weekend! Will be cheering with you all when I am not moving large amounts of student clutter in to a tiny room for Niknak! Have a great time everyone :GBflag:

[angiebabez]

For those of us with UJ stetsons - are you planning to wear them in Glasgow? Just thinking about what to bring......

Hope not.....they block my view :grrr:

[WimbledonWestie]

Falls off when I'm jumping about! Do have a team gb cap if I feel need but plenty other gb wear. And the glitter goes everywhere. So my Stetson is cheering from home.

[supergran]

The rather large flag is ready to be hoisted aloft with ANDY MURRAY FAN FORUM in large white letters for all to see. I think as I mentioned earlier a group photo before we all go inside so if you want to be on it then we should all meet at a certain time and let everyone see us as a group for a change. Suggestions for time and place welcome.

[JerryD]

Sounds like a great idea supergran. We are driving up Thursday and home Sunday so any day before play is fine. I think there are some people who are only coming late Friday or just for Saturday and Sunday. There is a lot of space outside the venue. Excited now!!

[glenys]

erm, you'll have already seen her on Sat/Sun at the tennis ... you could even share a taxi to the airport.
:lol:

:p

I knew what i meant but that is a fab idea, I was going to get the airport bus back but I dunno what time it runs on a Sunday

[Guerkins2]

:p

I knew what i meant but that is a fab idea, I was going to get the airport bus back but I dunno what time it runs on a Sunday

Yes that was my plan too, but a taxi probably wouldn't be much more between 2. Where are you staying? I will have to pick up my luggage from PI George Square after the match

[exislander]

:p

I knew what i meant but that is a fab idea, I was going to get the airport bus back but I dunno what time it runs on a Sunday

Airport 500 bus runs about every 15 minutes I think even on a Sunday.

[patlowe]

Airport 500 bus runs about every 15 minutes I think even on a Sunday.
Where does one go to catch that bus?

[anor]

Where does one go to catch that bus?

Buchanan Street bus station, 10-15 mins walk from George St PI

[exislander]

Where does one go to catch that bus?

There used to be a stop in N Hanover St - at Queen Street Station - and one in George Sq at Tourist Office, but check they are still current.
Just looked and according to timetable they are current and should also be a stop near Central Station but not certain exactly where - I think Waterloo Street?

[hfwardhouse]

For those of us with UJ stetsons - are you planning to wear them in Glasgow? Just thinking about what to bring......

Definitely - they make us more visible to the players and the cameras .... sorry Angie :fingersear:

[Teresa]

My dinosaur is coming along - anyone notice there was a little herd in Rio?

[Guerkins2]

There used to be a stop in N Hanover St - at Queen Street Station - and one in George Sq at Tourist Office, but check they are still current.
Just looked and according to timetable they are current and should also be a stop near Central Station but not certain exactly where - I think Waterloo Street?
I definitely caught in George Square last September

[glenys]

Yes that was my plan too, but a taxi probably wouldn't be much more between 2. Where are you staying? I will have to pick up my luggage from PI George Square after the match

I actually don't know I think its the PI LOL

[glenys]

My dinosaur is coming along - anyone notice there was a little herd in Rio?

******! knew there was something I meant to purchase!

[Sallydaisy]

Not sure if it's DC connected but Manchester Hotels are selling out very fast - the McDonald has taken 66 bookings today alone!!! And Manchester Hotels are expensive ... have put a marker down for one just in case ...
:cauldron:

[JerryD]

Not sure if it's DC connected but Manchester Hotels are selling out very fast - the McDonald has taken 66 bookings today alone!!! And Manchester Hotels are expensive ... have put a marker down for one just in case ...
:cauldron:

Sorry Sally do you mean for the November dates?

[Sallydaisy]

sorry sally do you mean for the november dates?
yes

[Malarkey99]

There's a massive boxing event - defence of world heavyweight title - at Manchester Arena that weekend.
Don't imagine that will be moved for tennis. Tickets for it not on sale yet so could be folk booking up rooms in advance?
I don't know Manchester - is there another poss DC venue?

[Hawkeye]

Is that Fury - Klitschko?

[lovetennis]

There's a massive boxing event - defence of world heavyweight title - at Manchester Arena that weekend.
Don't imagine that will be moved for tennis. Tickets for it not on sale yet so could be folk booking up rooms in advance?
I don't know Manchester - is there another poss DC venue?

Could use Manchester Central maybe but suspect the flurry in hotel bookings is due to the boxing

[Sallydaisy]

Could use Manchester Central maybe but suspect the flurry in hotel bookings is due to the boxing
Ah, thanks for that. Well I won't be going to watch any boxing!
:hide:

[Jan62]

Hope not.....they block my view :grrr:

Aw you're not going to turn into one of the grumpies are you Ange?? Sorry, might have to bring it anyway.......

[angiebabez]

Aw you're not going to turn into one of the grumpies are you Ange?? Sorry, might have to bring it anyway.......

What do u mean turn into??..... i always have been :laugh: you block my view of leon at your own peril. That hat will be as flat as a pancake once im done ;)

[JerryD]

Although when I did some venue research man central was one of the few places (along with the hydro) free for long enough...oh well what and see...getting ahead of myself. Still can't wait though! One week today!

[Sallydaisy]

Although when I did some venue research man central was one of the few places (along with the hydro) free for long enough...oh well what and see...getting ahead of myself. Still can't wait though! One week today!
The Hydro has Disney on Ice booked ... http://www.thessehydro.com/events/disney-on-ice-presents-frozen-16294.aspx

[ally]

Aw you're not going to turn into one of the grumpies are you Ange?? Sorry, might have to bring it anyway.......

Don't worry Jan, it will be my boppers that will get bopped instead. :big grin:

[JerryD]

The Hydro has Disney on Ice booked ... http://www.thessehydro.com/events/disney-on-ice-presents-frozen-16294.aspx
Agh boo I didn't see this when I last looked. I'm going to have a look about again as I no longer trust my findings.

[Malarkey99]

Does Manchester Central have big enough capacity/right sort of set up? I honestly couldn't find anywhere free in UK for the required dates in November....unless the Wimbledon bods allowed us into Centre Court! Lol.
Lille (if France win) most likely venue imo as Accorhotels Arena in Paris booked up.
Getting ahead of myself here though obviously. There's the small job of winning in Glasgow first!

[JerryD]

Yeah 12500 which I think is the minimum. Yep we have to win in Glasgow and Croatia need to win their one for there to be a final at home

[JimmyG]

Does Manchester Central have big enough capacity/right sort of set up?

http://www.manchestercentral.co.uk/central-hall-1-2-combined

Looks like it would be difficult to build stands that were high enough due to the shape of the hall

[JimmyG]

Yeah 12500 which I think is the minimum. Yep we have to win in Glasgow and Croatia need to win their one for there to be a final at home

12500 for all standing events so it would be quite a bit less for a tennis event

[JerryD]

I didn't think of that. Sorry folks. I'm out of ideas then.

[Caro]

What do u mean turn into??..... i always have been :laugh: you block my view of leon at your own peril. That hat will be as flat as a pancake once im done ;)
Don't you get squashing mine Mrs, it's got the whole teams' signatures on it! 😳

[cazza99]

:cauldron: :cauldron: errr we haven't won the semi yet.

[JerryD]

I feel confident about a win for us but less so about one for Croatia.

[themass15]

Wish I could go but am going away on Thursday for 11 days. Got to be at the final if they win, whether it's in GB or France!!!!!!!!

[themass15]

I think if France win it could be in Lille or Lyons

[JerryD]

Does anyone know how long the car park is open after the match finishes? I asked the woman when I booked but she said she didn't know.

[jaysee]

The rather large flag is ready to be hoisted aloft with ANDY MURRAY FAN FORUM in large white letters for all to see. I think as I mentioned earlier a group photo before we all go inside so if you want to be on it then we should all meet at a certain time and let everyone see us as a group for a change. Suggestions for time and place welcome.
I look forward to seeing it on the TV! Sorry I can't be with you all this time - give a cheer for me! :GBflag:

[jackie55]

The rather large flag is ready to be hoisted aloft with ANDY MURRAY FAN FORUM in large white letters for all to see. I think as I mentioned earlier a group photo before we all go inside so if you want to be on it then we should all meet at a certain time and let everyone see us as a group for a change. Suggestions for time and place welcome.


I look forward to seeing it on the TV! Sorry I can't be with you all this time - give a cheer for me! :GBflag:

Same for me as well please:thumbup::thumbup:

[angiebabez]

SG maybe best place for pic with flag would be at the restaurant on sat night when we will all be together? One of the waiters could take it & cardboard andy will be there also to take centre stage.

[WimbledonWestie]

That's a good idea Angie but I also think gathering outside the arena for a photo is a great idea- should help folk realise it's not just the Stirling uni barmy army or the we are tennis lot. So I'd say do both!

[Hawkeye]

Handy steps in front of venue for photo opp.

[angiebabez]

That's a good idea Angie but I also think gathering outside the arena for a photo is a great idea- should help folk realise it's not just the Stirling uni barmy army or the we are tennis lot. So I'd say do both!

Getting everyone there at same time may be a problem tho?

[Sallydaisy]

Handy steps in front of venue for photo opp.
Yep, perhaps a photo opportunity between the rubbers on Day 1?
IIRC they have loads of good eateries parked outside so they don't mind peeps going in and out 'cos the indoor food facilities are rubbish. But the Hog Roast Buns are mental.
:boogie:

[WimbledonWestie]

The one at meal should help cover everyone. Those who can make the arena one are getting a bonus.

[patlowe]

Getting everyone there at same time may be a problem tho?
Especially, if like me, not arriving till late Fri eve!!

[Sallydaisy]

The one at meal should help cover everyone. Those who can make the arena one are getting a bonus.
How about a photo each day at the Arena? Out on the steps?
And with flatpackAndy at the restaurant ...
;)

[WimbledonWestie]

I like that plan. Won't make the Friday photo, rest should be fine.

[supergran]

I did suggest one each day outside the arena and then Angie's suggestion of one Saturday evening with cardboard Andy. So is it settled then?

[glenys]

I did suggest one each day outside the arena and then Angie's suggestion of one Saturday evening with cardboard Andy. So is it settled then?
Aye, I'm not arriving till Saturday morning ;)

[angiebabez]

I did suggest one each day outside the arena and then Angie's suggestion of one Saturday evening with cardboard Andy. So is it settled then?

What time outside arena?

[Sallydaisy]

I did suggest one each day outside the arena and then Angie's suggestion of one Saturday evening with cardboard Andy. So is it settled then?


What time outside arena?
Don't know yet ... there's a PM being sent to all those going ... don't ask ...
:whistle:

[Sallydaisy]

'morning all.
Just sent a PM to those going. I'm now at work until 7pm tonight so won't be making any replies until after that time. As ever please make response by PM only and not in the forum.
:flowers:

[WimbledonWestie]

So next weekend we are cheering on the world champions, Australian, Wimbledon, Olympic and us open champions. Not bad for a country that was once the laughing stock of tennis.

Very proud! Can't wait!

[lovetennis]

So next weekend we are cheering on the world champions, Australian, Wimbledon, Olympic and us open champions. Not bad for a country that was once the laughing stock of tennis.

Very proud! Can't wait!

Amazing isn't it. They are going to get the biggest cheer ever when they enter the arena :cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer::cheer:

[hfwardhouse]

Can't wait :excited:

[glenys]

Getting excited! I really really MUST pack!

[Murray rocks]

So next weekend we are cheering on the world champions, Australian, Wimbledon, Olympic and us open champions. Not bad for a country that was once the laughing stock of tennis.

Very proud! Can't wait!

Well said. I'm very excited. Starting on my packing today. See you all soon xx

[jagmad]

Well said. I'm very excited. Starting on my packing today. See you all soon xx

Packing so early? That should help me spot you when we all meet.
You'll be the one in the creased attire then.
;):laugh::lol:

[JerryD]

I'm so excited now :) I can't wait, just digging out all my Union Jack stuff so packing is easy on Wednesday lol

[roytennisfan]

I can't start sorting anything till I get home from Italy on tuesday. Need to.wash my back the brits shirt from Serbia which I have been getting looks when wearing it here. Packing won't take me much more than 5 mins. Looking forward like everyone else, just about got over Andy not making the final today and by his own admission losing a match he should have won.

[Teresa]

I can't start sorting anything till I get home from Italy on tuesday. Need to.wash my back the brits shirt from Serbia which I have been getting looks when wearing it here. Packing won't take me much more than 5 mins. Looking forward like everyone else, just about got over Andy not making the final today and by his own admission losing a match he should have won.


I don't agree that he lost a match he should have won. Given just how much he had played and the conditions, I think he lost a match anyone would have reasonably expected him to lose? Perhaps it's just me.......

[WimbledonWestie]

Don't recall Andy admitting he should have won....

[29_adjacent]

Help! I can't decide whether to order one of the UJ dinosaurs or a UJ inflatable Olympic torch?? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amscan-PPP-Inflatable-Flame-Torch/dp/B006TD1UUG/ref=sr_1_5?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1473679008&sr=8-5&keywords=union+jack+inflatables

[Teresa]

Help! I can't decide whether to order one of the UJ dinosaurs or a UJ inflatable Olympic torch?? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amscan-PPP-Inflatable-Flame-Torch/dp/B006TD1UUG/ref=sr_1_5?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1473679008&sr=8-5&keywords=union+jack+inflatables

Decisions, decisions....!!! I can only say the dinosaur is reasonably robust, and easy for someone like me with dodgy hand functions at time to hold. It's also much cuter (in my opinion).

[Caro]

Help! I can't decide whether to order one of the UJ dinosaurs or a UJ inflatable Olympic torch?? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amscan-PPP-Inflatable-Flame-Torch/dp/B006TD1UUG/ref=sr_1_5?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1473679008&sr=8-5&keywords=union+jack+inflatables


Decisions, decisions....!!! I can only say the dinosaur is reasonably robust, and easy for someone like me with dodgy hand functions at time to hold. It's also much cuter (in my opinion).

Yes, I agree about the dinosaur. However, Gill's was headbanging to all the tunes in Ghent and sitting on the bar eyeing up the beer I might add .... it was very badly behaved so has been grounded since ;) :laugh::laugh:

[glenys]

Can someone grab me a dino? ebay has sold out and I don't "do" Amazon

[Julie80]

Help! I can't decide whether to order one of the UJ dinosaurs or a UJ inflatable Olympic torch?? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Amscan-PPP-Inflatable-Flame-Torch/dp/B006TD1UUG/ref=sr_1_5?rps=1&ie=UTF8&qid=1473679008&sr=8-5&keywords=union+jack+inflatables

Got to be a dinosaur. They're much cuter and love to dance!

[Teresa]

Can someone grab me a dino? ebay has sold out and I don't "do" Amazon

If you are serious I can do it now - £6.99 including postage?

I have bought it otherwise it won't get here in time. I can always use a spare......

[WimbledonWestie]

Sticking with my Pom poms- for this tie- but look fwd to meeting the dinosaurs.

[glenys]

If you are serious I can do it now - £6.99 including postage?

I have bought it otherwise it won't get here in time. I can always use a spare......
Thankyou

I went to the PCC meeting at church - am the secretary so have to go LOL

[Jan]

Hope you all (and the dinosaurs!) have the most brilliant time at the weekend! I know you'll do a fantastic job cheering the lads on. I'll be shouting at the tv!
:GBflag::GBflag:

[roytennisfan]

Don't recall Andy admitting he should have won....

Your right! I got mixed up with could and should

"I could have won. But I've also won some over the last few months I should have lost"

[Alis]

Your right! I got mixed up with could and should

"I could have won. But I've also won some over the last few months I should have lost"

Easy done!

[Caro]

I'm raging! Cabin bag I used last time I flew with Flybe to Glasgow is now too big apparently! :angry::angry: 3cm too big in one dimension now. Tempted to try and get away with it but knowing my luck I'd then be left with no bag or having to buy an expensive one at the airport! Will now have to pay for a hold bag. Am NOT impressed! Why do they have to keep changing it?! I am really going off flying.

[patlowe]

I'm flying with Flybe. Wasn't aware they had changed cabin bag size? Must check it out!

[JerryD]

Luckily we are only 4 hours drive away so that's the plan again this year. Hopefully 4 hours will mean that. None of this 2 hour to go 7 miles thing that I've had recently. We won't be getting there after midnight Friday after work Thursday though. Sorry about your bags caro, I swear they wait for you to get comfortable and then change it to catch you out.

[RosieBear]

I'm raging! Cabin bag I used last time I flew with Flybe to Glasgow is now too big apparently! :angry::angry: 3cm too big in one dimension now. Tempted to try and get away with it but knowing my luck I'd then be left with no bag or having to buy an expensive one at the airport! Will now have to pay for a hold bag. Am NOT impressed! Why do they have to keep changing it?! I am really going off flying.

Oh I hear you, Caro - had a similar problem last time. Flying can be such a headache, just can't be doing with the liquid allowances etc so taking the train this time. Going to kick back and enjoy the route through the Lake District. Does mean traveling on the Thurs and Mon, but I always do that anyway.
Anyhow, looking forward to seeing you soon - hope I'm sat near you as per. We'll go mental! Yay for team Carosiebear!! :cheer::cheer::jitterbug::jitterbug::GBflag:

[angiebabez]

Pack layers and brollies folks. Typical glesgae weather waiting to greet ya :rolleyes:

[cazza99]

Have a great time everybody who is going :)

[angiebabez]

Ok. Myself and ally today safely delivered the good luck card today from all on forum!....wasnt as lucky as last time as didnt get an invite into dressing room by leon... booooo:grrr: did catch jamie going in tho who promised to pass it onto leon & rest of team!! We missed Andy by 20 minutes apparantly...going by this picture on facebook he was going for a fish tea with judy at bridge of allan. 1126

[WimbledonWestie]

I can guarantee that when I'm stuck outside like a lemon waiting for my mates to twig I'm phoning them that I've arrived so they can bring me my ticket out there will be
a) the two longest games in history delaying a change of ends to let them out
b)the biggest biblical downpour of torrential rain turning me into a sodden drowned rat- this will start when I exit train station and stop when I finally get inside

This downpour will be repeated on the Sunday when my other pal waits for me to do the ticket run to let her in.

Rest of time I guarantee you will all be lovely and dry. I shall soak it all up for ya

Maybe I should buy a GB brolly!
It's only Tuesday folks- still time for the sun to decide to shine. Here's hoping you all get to see Glasgow at its finest!