View Full Version : Davis Cup 2017 - GB def Canada 3-2, into the Quarter-Final
angiebabez
05-02-2017, 21:32
Kyle in 3
themass15
05-02-2017, 21:34
Let's go Kyle; hope you're right Angiebabez
First set to Kyle :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:
RosieBear
05-02-2017, 21:37
Well done Kyle :clap: - keep going lad! :swingin:
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 21:38
:cheer::cheer::cheer:C'mon Kyle, looking good. Keep young Shappy under the thumb
Great start Kyle. Different day, different match up....
RosieBear
05-02-2017, 21:39
Totally agree with the praise JL is giving Kyle - not easy to come out after a horrible first match and play crucial 5th rubber against a 17 yr old you're expected to beat hands down. Kyle is handling it well :thumbup:
JAMES4578
05-02-2017, 21:40
Fairly tight game but Kyle closes it out and you certainly favour him in rallies!
Kyle in 3
Oh I do hope so Angie otherwise I may not be happy about the size of the omelette I just cooked us.
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 21:41
Totally agree with the praise JL is giving Kyle - not easy to come out after a horrible first match and play crucial 5th rubber against a 17 yr old you're expected to beat hands down. Kyle is handling it well :thumbup:
He looks far more animated today. Good work from the team to get Kyle up for it
He looks far more animated today. Good work from the team to get Kyle up for it
I agree it looks like Kyle may be Vaseked off with himself that he didn't play like this in his first match.;)
I can sometimes be a bit critical, but Dan fought like a tiger, and didn't give up until the last point. If he is down on himself after that match Leon needs to put him right. He has nothing to be ashamed of. He was playing somebody vastly more experienced. Age and native cunning frequently can outwit youth.
WimbledonWestie
05-02-2017, 21:52
Whole new Kyle today- -keep up the good work!
Kyle will win this and what a perfect way to finish the tie - all of our 4 guys having had the opportunity to show their metal and contribute crucially to GB's success. Go go go TeamGB! :GBflag:
Kyle demonstrating cunning strategy?
Feeling a tad sorry for young Shappy - such a burden to bear for his country and on such young shoulders.
great point from Kyle there
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 21:55
Anyone else think the Canadian TV director got told off for showing too much of our supporters the last two days? Not shown them anywhere near as much today, but we can still hear you Roy, SG, Hawkeye & Linda
Anyone else think the Canadian TV director got told off for showing too much of our supporters the last two days? Not shown them anywhere near as much today, but we can still hear you Roy, SG, Hawkeye & Linda
Funny I was just thinking what happened to Roy TV
themass15
05-02-2017, 21:58
I can sometimes be a bit critical, but Dan fought like a tiger, and didn't give up until the last point. If he is down on himself after that match Leon needs to put him right. He has nothing to be ashamed of. He was playing somebody vastly more experienced. Age and native cunning frequently can outwit youth.
Dan and Vashi are the same age
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:05
Kyle just needs to keep his head now
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 22:06
C'mon Kyle. Roy and Hawkeye TV makes a comeback
Kyle giving Denis a few Popsy serves !
RosieBear
05-02-2017, 22:07
Kyle has got a really determined look on his face. Love it :clap:
Fantastic - well done, Kyle!!!!
JAMES4578
05-02-2017, 22:09
Kyle able to put pressure on again and now takes 2nd, come on! Whilst Shapovalov got potential a bit hit or miss from him.
exislander
05-02-2017, 22:09
just keep it going Kyle!
If/when Kyle wins this I recon Dan may run on the court with such enthusiasm he'll bowl Kyle completely off his feet.
WimbledonWestie
05-02-2017, 22:10
Nice Kyle! Keep it up!
Our boys can hold their heads up high. And Canada haven't been too shabby either!
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:13
If/when Kyle wins this I recon Dan may run on the court with such enthusiasm he'll bowl Kyle completely off his feet.
Is Dan still in the building?
If/when Kyle wins this I recon Dan may run on the court with such enthusiasm he'll bowl Kyle completely off his feet.
Hopefully!
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 22:14
Is Dan still in the building?
Yes he's on the sidelines. Saw him pumping up Kyle earlier
Yes he's on the sidelines. Saw him pumping up Kyle earlier
;):thumbup:
Keep it going Kyle :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :GBflag:
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 22:15
Very surprised how many Canadians have left after the Popsy match
david1610
05-02-2017, 22:15
This has been an object lesson so far in how one weak service game loses a set!
Yes he's on the sidelines. Saw him pumping up Kyle earlier
It'll be lovely seeing them all celebrating together! :)
3755 RPM?
That's like doing 100 MPH in Lynne's Jeep
It'll be lovely seeing them all celebrating together! :)
To right and as I said there could be some damage done if their not careful.
Although I think Dan may do some damage to the bar
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 22:22
Uh oh. Kyle has just broken but Denis has hit the umpire with a ball.
It could be a disqualification.
Now the Umpire is damaged
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:22
What a sad way if this is how it is going to end.
RosieBear
05-02-2017, 22:22
ooooo no - looks like this tie could have a very unfortunate ending....silly boy...
This would be aweful for the young lad
dewster99
05-02-2017, 22:24
poor kid
RosieBear
05-02-2017, 22:24
Oh the poor boy. What a sad way for it to end, for Denis and Kyle....:sad:
How sad no celebration and the poor young Dennis
Oh dear - that is sad. I don't think anyone would want that. It really takes the gilt off the gingerbread.
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:25
A sharp learning curve
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 22:25
GSM: Great Britain 6'4, 6'3, 2'1 default.
The umpire/officials had no choice. The umpire was hit straight into his left eye and it doesn't look good at all. They couldn't possibly let the matter go without the default.
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:25
Kyle would have won but it is such a sad ending.
It's a default. Sad but the right decision. The lad will feel awful, it's a harsh, but necessary lesson. Just sad it detracts from Kyle's performance today.
What a sad way for a great tie to finish.
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 22:27
Well not how we wanted that to end at all. Umpire's eye looks a mess. Kyle was going to win anyway but takes the shine off. Big learning curve for Shappy, he'll be gutted but you just can't do that
Goodness - went away from TV and came back to this. What a sad way to end what was a strong tie for both teams although we were on the way to a conclusive win with Kyle.
JAMES4578
05-02-2017, 22:28
As expected it is a default,whilst awful for Denis really had to expect the consequences even if unintentional. Umpire obviously hurt quite badly in eye. Pity to end like that but Kyle was on course for win in any case. Still have to say GB deserving winners even though pushed, doubles was certainly crucial though.
RosieBear
05-02-2017, 22:29
Focusing on the positives rather than negatives Kyle 2 sets and a break up - he was going to win without doubt, so it's well done Kyle - he deserves credit.
Bad luck Denis - don't beat yourself up too badly, just learn from it.
Well what to say other than I hope the umpire is ok as that looks really nasty. Bizarre ending but well played Team GB.
If those two clowns say "steep learning curve" again.....:grrr:
I see Evo's all heart. :big grin:
Congratulations guys & Team GB !!
The poor young lad....not a nice way to win but the young lad will learn from this after all is settled...poor lad....on a brighter note well done Kyle, I do think he played a lot, lot better today plus his attitude was better, and think he was going to win anyway:GBflag:...my heart does got out to that young lad though!!
shame for the kid but rules are rule
BTW dan evans showed a real lack of class with his reaction
Silly, silly boy!!!
The lad is only 17. I doubt there was any actual malice about it. Mind you it was a shot worthy of my good self. Fortunately my dog dislikes chasing balls, given I am lethal with a ball launcher.
jackie55
05-02-2017, 22:30
Great result for team GB, well played Kyle, just a shame it had to end that way
Rosalind
05-02-2017, 22:31
No other choice. Kyle was going to win anyway. See some of you in France
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:32
Just hope that umpire is ok, I am sure he will have gone straight to hospital
shame for the kid but rules are rule
BTW dan evans showed a real lack of class with his reaction
Oh no....Dannyboy...what did you do??
Reminded of how close Andy came in Cincinnati although it was Dumusois. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKwIdkLv6CA
Just hope that umpire is ok, I am sure he will have gone straight to hospital
Yes my thoughts are with him too.
It was a great tie and I could cry for Shapo. I also would like Kyle to have had a gleeful celebration by winning outright. However I am as happy for Kyle that he produced the goods tonight as I am that we are thru. So France here we come!!! Look out!!!
Sounds like the interviewer is also on a "steep learning curve". ;)
themass15
05-02-2017, 22:36
Sounds like the interviewer is also on a "steep learning curve". ;)
Never heard him before. Is he British or Canadian?
My final word is ..... Sigh.
:shrug::doh::facepalm:
WimbledonWestie
05-02-2017, 22:42
Sad way for the tie to end, error of judgement by shapopolov, feel for him. But there could've been no other choice but disqualification. Shame Kyle couldn't celebrate properly after his disappointment on Friday. However.... bring on les bleus.
P.s what did Dan do?
Never heard him before. Is he British or Canadian?
His name is Michael Beattie and he's British. Looks like he's freelance and according to his twitter he's worked at all the slams but maybe as a writer and not a broadcaster. ;) Stu Fraser used to do this for Davis Cup before he hit the big time.
Thanks everyone for great company over this momentous weekend. See you again on the forum for Andy's next match.....:grouphug:
Not the way anyone would want the tie to end.
Hope the umpire is ok.
So much better from Kyle today - be proud of yourself young man!
Well done GB!!!!!!!!!!
:GBflag::GBflag:
Josephine
05-02-2017, 22:45
Well done GB in the end.
Poor umpire - rather than poor boy! He could have retina damage - can be very serious.
Whatever Shapovalov goes on to achieve in his career he'll always be remembered for this. :sad: Just like my abiding memory of Henman is him being defaulted at Wimbledon. ;)
Sad end to the weekend. Kyle was playing really well though. Promising for the next tie.
lovetennis
05-02-2017, 22:53
Thanks for you company over the weekend forumers. Takes the edge off not being able to be there, by being able to share it on here. Sadly I'll be on the sofa for the QFs too as I can't take time off in early April.
Is this (https://twitter.com/BritishTennis/status/828371946161201153) Evo arranging to meet up with the Stirling Barmy Army to celebrate? ;) Could get messy.
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 23:01
There is now a thread with information ref a group booking to France in April.
http://www.andymurrayfanforum.com/forums/showthread.php?2649-DAVIS-CUP-2017-Q-FINAL-GBR-v-FRA-away-BLOCK-BOOKING-INFORMATION-ONLY&p=202401#post202401
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 23:04
I hope EVERY tennis player who has slung a racquet, walloped a ball in frustration or hurled any item of kit in anger saw what happened tonight and learns from it.
Intentional or not, accidental or not, it's dangerous.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C374CNIWYAANutO.jpg:large
Yellowlivi
05-02-2017, 23:05
Im still in shock after that. So horrible for everyone. Poor kid. And Kyle and the team deserved to win and celebrate as they were so close to doing. Just horrible for everyone.
Pospisil has Shapovalov's back. :thumbup:
Vasek Pospisil @VasekPospisil
No one is nicer or carries themselves better for a 17 y/o than Shapovalov. Everyone can see that today was an accident. Can happen to anyone
Just a horrible way for it to end. For everyone involved. I've been in shock for a bit. I knew when it hit it would be disqualification but I was holding there is was a way to avoid it. It is the rules though. Firstly i hope the umpire is ok, he delay in announcing showed how much he didn't want to make that call but he didn't have a choice. Aside from the pain in his eye, it's a horrible call to have to make, in such a big match, with such a young guy in front of a home crowd. Really sorry for Shappy, he just got out, it wasn't intentional. He looked so sad when the call was made I wanted to cry for him. We all make mistakes, especially at 17, his was just in a big moment. I hope he can move on from this, see it is as something to learn from and that could happen to many. It is hard for the crowd who didn't want to see it end this way. I feel for Kyle too, I felt he was on top on the match and didn't see many more games going against him. He really had it, he can't really enjoy the win. I hope he takes comfort in knowing he would have won anyway.
Pospisil has Shapovalov's back. :thumbup:
No one is nicer or carries themselves better for a 17 y/o than Shapovalov. Everyone can see that today was an accident. Can happen to anyone
The sad thing is he's right although that don't mean it's acceptable.
The best way to make sure it don't is as I've said before if you must get angry then make sure you aim the damage at yourself.
then if you miss, the damage you could cause any others is kept to a minimum.
Sallydaisy
05-02-2017, 23:26
Update from Davis Cup on twitter:
Davis Cup ✔ @DavisCup (https://twitter.com/DavisCup) Chair umpire Arnaud Gamas has bruising & swelling of the left eye. He is going to Ottawa General Hospital for precautionary evaluation (1/2)
Denis Shapovalov sought out Mr Gamas in the referee's office where he was being attended and apologised. (2/2)
I thought it was good of the Canadian captain Martin Laurendeau to go over and have a word with him to say what was about to be announced. Very sad for Denis - steep learning curve for him this weekend.
That's good to know thanks Sally.:thumbup::thanks:
That was a horrible way for the tie to end. Kyle was in control thank goodness so the result was probably heading our way anyway, but still. It's really hard on the young Canadian but the umpire had no option. And if it serves as a reminder to all the players then maybe it's not a bad thing. Hopefully the umpire will be ok that could be very nasty.
Wow, only watching on livescores and traveling so wondered what had happened. Very sad but looked as though Kyle had the match under control.
I am very happy for Kyle. I thought some of the comments on here after his match on Friday were a little harsh and uncalled for.
I didn't see any of the matches so can't comment too much but everyone is allowed an off day and as it seems as though the court was built for Pospisil. I don't blame the Canadians for this, its what home advantage is for. Anyway, I hope Kyle is encouraged by his match today. I still believe he has a lot to give but may be at a critical stage in his career.
C'mon GB - France next!!!!
Well done to the whole team especially Dom, he has been very patient waiting for his turn and I'm glad it worked out well for him.
BBC2 showing DC highlights without commentary. :confused: Why isn't this option available all the time? :p
Josephine
06-02-2017, 00:30
Just a horrible way for it to end. For everyone involved. I've been in shock for a bit. I knew when it hit it would be disqualification but I was holding there is was a way to avoid it. It is the rules though. Firstly i hope the umpire is ok, he delay in announcing showed how much he didn't want to make that call but he didn't have a choice. Aside from the pain in his eye, it's a horrible call to have to make, in such a big match, with such a young guy in front of a home crowd. Really sorry for Shappy, he just got out, it wasn't intentional. He looked so sad when the call was made I wanted to cry for him. We all make mistakes, especially at 17, his was just in a big moment. I hope he can move on from this, see it is as something to learn from and that could happen to many. It is hard for the crowd who didn't want to see it end this way. I feel for Kyle too, I felt he was on top on the match and didn't see many more games going against him. He really had it, he can't really enjoy the win. I hope he takes comfort in knowing he would have won anyway.
I don't think the umpire was trying to avoid disqualification. The poor man was in extreme pain and struggling to see. He called the match referee who made the decision and had to actually tell the umpire what to say.
No question Shapovalov had to be disqualified - I know it wasn't intentional - but he hit that ball with a hell of a lot of force - was going to hit someone hard! And as his captain said "Emotional control is the biggest factor in this game" - so hopefully he will learn that now
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 00:36
Oh dear.
Russell Fuller @russellcfuller (https://twitter.com/russellcfuller) 1m1 minute ago (https://twitter.com/russellcfuller/status/828401267546398723)
Referee Brian Earley has the power to impose a fine of up to $12 000 on Shapovalov.
ITF could add to that and/or suspend him in due course.
I don't think the umpire was trying to avoid disqualification. The poor man was in extreme pain and struggling to see. He called the match referee who made the decision and had to actually tell the umpire what to say.
No question Shapovalov had to be disqualified - I know it wasn't intentional - but he hit that ball with a hell of a lot of force - was going to hit someone hard! And as his captain said "Emotional control is the biggest factor in this game" - so hopefully he will learn that now
I didn't say he was trying to avoid it, I said aside from him pain he didn't want to make that call. It's how it seemed to me.. A couple of times he went to give the decision after being told and held off. Regardless of his pain I don't think he wanted to make that call. Who would. I'm sure he'll learn his lesson. I feel sorry for all involved.
I was insisting on the default, although it did rob us of that moment of victory.My thoughts on the day's play, Dan missed too many chances, irrespective of how Pospisil served.I didn't share everyone's confidence in Kyle after Friday, but I relaxed after the first set.All in all, everyone contributed to a great tie, so mustn't grumble!
From the DC site: http://www.daviscup.com/en/news/251584.aspx
"I’d like to apologise to the ITF officials and all officials," Shapovalov told the press. "I went back and spoke to the [umpire] after, and apologised directly to him. Luckily he was okay, but obviously it’s unacceptable behaviour from me.
"To be honest, I feel incredibly ashamed and embarrassed. I feel awful for letting my team down, for letting my country down, for acting a way that I would never want to act. I can promise that’s the last time I will do anything like that. I’m going to learn from this and try to move past. I was very lucky that the referee was okay."
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 04:06
Once again the victory in the tricky doubles clash proved decisive. It was a hard fought match, whilst the records will show it as three sets to one, many felt that Jamie and Dom had actually won 4 sets and that if Hawkeye had been working that there would have been no need for a fourth set. A great pity about the 2 incidents today, Dan smashing his racquet and that much talked about Shapovalov disqualification, but all in all a fascinating tie won by the stronger team but with the losers fighting valiantly.
HoopGirl
06-02-2017, 07:10
Sad way for the tie to end.
Shame for that young boy - hope the umpire is okay.
Congrats GB!
Great to see the GB fans on the TV!
I am glad the umpire is ok. He looked shocked more than anything, (understandably). Young Shapovalov has just had a valuable lesson in actions and consequences. If you take away the fact the umpire was hurt it was an awesom shot, and the replay shows just how powerful a tennis ball hurtling towards you can be.
I rather think that shot will be used as a training aid for umpires and young players in the future. Not to mention as BBC Sportsday said, it will become a stalwart on BC Question of Sport, "What happened next?" Section for years to come.
suttontennis
06-02-2017, 08:17
Pospisil has Shapovalov's back. :thumbup:
Vasek Pospisil @VasekPospisil
No one is nicer or carries themselves better for a 17 y/o than Shapovalov. Everyone can see that today was an accident. Can happen to anyone.
except it didn't happen to HIM, he happened it. I know Pospisil is trying to be supportive, but trying to say it could have happened to any-one is off the mark. Also, had the ball not hit the umpire it would have straight into the stands, possibly hitting a spectator (small child) in the face, or flown up into the roof, smashing lights or dislodging equipment. So I reckon Shapovalov was lucky that the umpire got in the way.
Ball kids and officials are hit regularly by balls (especially from serves) travelling at great speeds and let's not forget a linesman died at the US Open in 1983 having been hit by an Edberg serve and as a result falling and hitting his head on the ground.
Dom tweeted a picture of the victorious team dinner. No sign of Evo who clearly opted for an early night, what a pro! :whistle:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C380k_QUkAAnx0g.jpg
Hoping that Evo was on the right and just out of the photoshoot! He SHOULD be there!
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 11:43
Dom tweeted a picture of the victorious team dinner. No sign of Evo who clearly opted for an early night, what a pro! :whistle:
Maybe Evo was taking the photo???
No sign of Leon either ... and it looks like David Cameron has snuck in next to Louis Cayer.
themass15
06-02-2017, 11:46
That was my reaction where is Dan?
Cameron Norrie who was there as a hitting partner is also absent. He and Evo seemed like good mates and you can in see in the background immediately after the umpire was hit, the two "consoling" each other. ;) After all laughter is the best medicine. :big grin:
Josephine
06-02-2017, 12:43
I didn't say he was trying to avoid it, I said aside from him pain he didn't want to make that call. It's how it seemed to me.. A couple of times he went to give the decision after being told and held off. Regardless of his pain I don't think he wanted to make that call. Who would. I'm sure he'll learn his lesson. I feel sorry for all involved.
He was in shock and awaiting confirmation from the tie referee who, as the commentators said, told him the correct wording for the announcement.
Not saying he was eager to do it - but that is part of his role and a clearer case for disqualification would be hard to imagine.
That was my reaction where is Dan?
And where is Supergran? :lol:
millypops
06-02-2017, 12:54
That was my reaction where is Dan?
Dan might have left Canada straight after the tie he is due to play in France tomorrow
Dan might have left Canada straight after the tie he is due to play in France tomorrow
I think Stuart Fraser on twitter said that Dan was pulling out of Montpellier
, returning for Dubai. Have to wait and see if correct.
Maybe Evo was taking the photo???
No sign of Leon either ... and it looks like David Cameron has snuck in next to Louis Cayer.
And Novak Djokovic next to Jamie ... ;):laugh: Evo will probably have attended the dinner then gone out on the town with the Barmy Army. That's what usually happens.
I am so impressed with how Kyle picked himself up after Friday. He had that match won and such a shame he wasn't able to celebrate.
And Novak Djokovic next to Jamie ... ;):laugh: Evo will probably have attended the dinner then gone out on the town with the Barmy Army. That's what usually happens.
I am so impressed with how Kyle picked himself up after Friday. He had that match won and such a shame he wasn't able to celebrate.
It's disappointing for him. I hope he sees that he would have had it anyway, the frustration was likely caused by his opppnent knowing Kyle had him and was going to take the match. He was so sad on Friday too, I was sure he would win before the match started and was thinking one of bright sides would be that he could then restore his confidence. The way it ended made that harder but I imagine Leon will be telling him he had it in the bag anyway.
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 13:26
And where is Supergran? :lol:
She decided not to go to the team hotel this time, Ronnie was watching the superbowl somewhere, Linda went to see Roast Lamb and I went straight back to my hotel in an official Davis Cup car laid on for my friend John who was the other side of the arena in accessible seating. John was well looked after by tennis Canada, yesterday not only water but cookies and whisky as well. I stayed in the hotel cos I wasn't feeling great so no celebrating for me last night I'm afraid despite singing now we're going to party with the barmy army
Dan is still showing in the Montpellier draw, where he plays Mischa Zverev
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 13:29
I think Stuart Fraser on twitter said that Dan was pulling out of Montpellier
, returning for Dubai. Have to wait and see if correct.
He was also down for 2 other 250s before Dubai
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 13:32
Let's not be too negative about Dan, the last time I saw him out with the Barmy army after a DC tie, he bought a roundat about 250 quid and was not drinking alcohol himself
Let's not be too negative about Dan, the last time I saw him out with the Barmy army after a DC tie, he bought a roundat about 250 quid and was not drinking alcohol himself I wasn't being negative at all! He is entitled to celebrate and no, doesn't mean he is drinking himself.
LC the fan
06-02-2017, 14:03
such a shame for Kyle. His confidence needs a boost and anchoring the tie and getting the result would have been such a shot in the arm for him.
OK he played well, was winning (albeit a very inexperienced opponent) but the fact of sealing the win and the celebrations would have done him so much good.
However, we are through - without Andy's participation. Well done GB
roytennisfan
06-02-2017, 15:53
I wasn't being negative at all! He is entitled to celebrate and no, doesn't mean he is drinking himself.
There were a few comments made by others, I meant just to get across that some people even on our forum do seem to say things that can seem negative and I do know you are a good supporter and very proud of how well Dan is doing now
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 16:18
The umpire seems to be OK which is good news!
Stuart Fraser @stu_fraser 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/stu_fraser/status/828638117590614016) Denis Shapovalov fined $7,000. No further action anticipated. Hospital checks on Arnaud Gabas found no damage to cornea or retina.
Russell Fuller @russellcfuller 34m34 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/russellcfuller/status/828630063499313152) Umpire Arnaud Gabas is wearing shades but in cheerful mood at breakfast. Thankfully it appears as if the damage is only cosmetic.
Shapovalov has career earnings of $67,000. I hope he's saved some of it. ;)
Shapovalov has tweeted this fulsome apology.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C3_c7BXUkAAL2ZB.jpg
I am sure the fine is as nothing compared to the shame, embarrassment and remorse Denis must be feeling. I'm sure he didn't sleep last night. I know what happened was awful, and I'm so glad the umpire seems ok, but it still doesn't stop me feeling very sorry for Denis. What agonies he must have been going through afterwards. Certainly a tough lesson.
I'm glad the umpire's eye is okay.
angiebabez
06-02-2017, 16:51
I am sure the fine is as nothing compared to the shame, embarrassment and remorse Denis must be feeling. I'm sure he didn't sleep last night. I know what happened was awful, and I'm so glad the umpire seems ok, but it still doesn't stop me feeling very sorry for Denis. What agonies he must have been going through afterwards. Certainly a tough lesson.
Ditto. Imagine how his heart must have sank like a stone this morning when he remembered what happened. Poor umpire would have been feeling a lot of pain as well. Sad all round..feel for kyle as well not getting his moment of glory.
I feel really bad for Denis too , as well as the umpire ( so glad hes ok & no permanent damage done )
Feel for Kyle too !
I would bet that all of us did things at 17 that we are not proud of ( I sure did )
Im sure he learned a lesson about controlling his emotions while on court
He made a big mistake in judgement , but He really is a nice kid .
I am glad that other than the fine and of course the DQ there is no further punishment, I was worried that there could be a suspension or something. I hope he moves on from this and still gets his chance to play for his country in September. Coming out and putting on a good match in front of them in the DC again will help him move forward. Though of raonic is about he might not get that chance anyway.
I heard Denis'' apology on the radio this morning. He apologised to the umpire first, then Kyle and British team, all the fans watching, his own team and coach personally and finally his mum and dad.
It was humbling to hear a chap half my age own his mistake with such honesty; he had genuine regret and complete understanding. He showed amazing maturity.
I'm glad he wasn't punished further with a ban, he had harsh enough lesson yesterday.
I heard Denis'' apology on the radio this morning. He apologised to the umpire first, then Kyle and British team, all the fans watching, his own team and coach personally and finally his mum and dad.
It was humbling to hear a chap half my age own his mistake with such honesty; he had genuine regret and complete understanding. He showed amazing maturity.
I'm glad he wasn't punished further with a ban, he had harsh enough lesson yesterday.
+1 :thumbup:
I'm glad he wasn't punished further with a ban, he had harsh enough lesson yesterday.
I agree.
JAMES4578
06-02-2017, 20:39
I feel really bad for Denis too , as well as the umpire ( so glad hes ok & no permanent damage done )
Feel for Kyle too !
I would bet that all of us did things at 17 that we are not proud of ( I sure did )
Im sure he learned a lesson about controlling his emotions while on court
He made a big mistake in judgement , but He really is a nice kid .
I am glad that other than the fine and of course the DQ there is no further punishment, I was worried that there could be a suspension or something. I hope he moves on from this and still gets his chance to play for his country in September. Coming out and putting on a good match in front of them in the DC again will help him move forward. Though of raonic is about he might not get that chance anyway.
I heard Denis'' apology on the radio this morning. He apologised to the umpire first, then Kyle and British team, all the fans watching, his own team and coach personally and finally his mum and dad.
It was humbling to hear a chap half my age own his mistake with such honesty; he had genuine regret and complete understanding. He showed amazing maturity.I'm glad he wasn't punished further with a ban, he had harsh enough lesson yesterday.
Seems to be general consensus that whilst there needed to be a penalty for Denis' "mad moment" which had unintended consequences important to have perspective. Obviously a shock to the umpire at the time but as no lasting damage a fine is sufficient.
I think he should be burned at the stake. Mainly because it's ****** freezing.
:lol: Are you still in Ottawa Hawkeye ?
More snow on the way there tomorrow
( freezing rain for us )
Yes, I fly home tomorrow, and my schedule doesn't allow for delays...
I think he should be burned at the stake. Mainly because it's ****** freezing.
I would'ave thought that needed a ;) at the end of it at the least Hawkeye;)
Yes, I fly home tomorrow, and my schedule doesn't allow for delays...
Just saw on the news , freezing rain for Ottawa too ! Hope you dont get delayed
I really don't want to be delayed :cauldron:
RoastLamb
06-02-2017, 23:42
Don't worry the Cdn airports are used to this type of weather. My husband had to fly from Vancouver to Toronto a couple of weeks ago in the worst snow storm and nothing was delayed. I was really worried too but it was actually worse for me to drive to the airport and pick him up.
Sallydaisy
06-02-2017, 23:51
Just saw on the news , freezing rain for Ottawa too ! Hope you dont get delayed
Oh, he'll be really happy. That's sleeveless t-shirt weather 'innit?
:big grin:
Don't worry the Cdn airports are used to this type of weather. My husband had to fly from Vancouver to Toronto a couple of weeks ago in the worst snow storm and nothing was delayed. I was really worried too but it was actually worse for me to drive to the airport and pick him up.
True for snow Fiona , but freezing rain is another beast
Probably a bunch of hype here for nothing tho , as usual
Edmund's thoughts on the tie http://kyleedmund.tennis/news/eye
Shap's latest interview on that incident http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/38897801
roytennisfan
08-02-2017, 11:07
Don't worry the Cdn airports are used to this type of weather. My husband had to fly from Vancouver to Toronto a couple of weeks ago in the worst snow storm and nothing was delayed. I was really worried too but it was actually worse for me to drive to the airport and pick him up.
I thought that till they were very slow in getting our plane off the stand, we were told the wheels kept slipping and they were getting sand to put down so eventually we were towed from the stand. The de-icing was pretty efficient for us but not in Toronto where they waited hours
Update on umpire - returning from Ottawa, umpire Arnaud Gabas had tests that showed an orbital bone fracture - and he had surgery.
angiebabez
12-02-2017, 12:11
Update on umpire - returning from Ottawa, umpire Arnaud Gabas had tests that showed an orbital bone fracture - and he had surgery.
Ooh no
That's grim. It doesn't alter the fact that Shapovalov didn't intend to hit the umpire, however it does elevate the situation. Do people think the punishment will be reviewed?
That's grim. It doesn't alter the fact that Shapovalov didn't intend to hit the umpire, however it does elevate the situation. Do people think the punishment will be reviewed?
I wouldn't have thought so as like you say the consequences don't change the fact that it was unintentional. He has been fined and the decision has been made.
It looked bad enough to be that up close.
ITF statement. Surely also a question why it wasn't picked up when he was seen by doctors in Ottawa. Maybe if it had then the punishment for Shapovalov would have been more severe.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4ebJzoWMAQ6y9t.jpg
themass15
13-02-2017, 09:37
Just announced on Radio 5 Live, the umpire who was hit in the eye has undergone eye surgery. How will that make Denis S feel?
Josephine
13-02-2017, 10:58
How will that make the poor umpire feel? Think actually Denis got off lightly. It if hadn't hit the referee it could have hit Leon or someone else in GB Team or someone in the crowd. Something hit with that force in that direction was bound to cause trouble. I accept it was accidental but the ferocity with which he struck that ball made some form of damage extremely likely.
goldfish
13-02-2017, 13:58
Just out of interest - if this had happened in an earlier match, would the whole team have been DQd?
themass15
13-02-2017, 14:05
Just out of interest - if this had happened in an earlier match, would the whole team have been DQd?
Good question. Gut reaction says yes but I don't know.
Just out of interest - if this had happened in an earlier match, would the whole team have been DQd?
No, although any player who is defaulted may be defaulted from the remainder of the Tie.
angiebabez
13-02-2017, 14:30
Just out of interest - if this had happened in an earlier match, would the whole team have been DQd?
Hmm. That is a good question. I would say no. Only the player in question would be.
No, although any player who is defaulted may be defaulted from the remainder of the Tie.
Yeah that would be my thoughts. So if it happened in his first match Dennis could have been prevented from playing in the second. There is still room for this role as to further problems though, as if your team didn't have enough players for someone to fill in for the suspended player in that tie, it could course problems. But I'd imagine you'd just use a doubles guy if stuck.
BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/38950726) - Davis Cup: Umpire Arnaud Gabas has surgery to repair fractured eye socket
Shapovalov has been given a wild card into Marseilles next week, a tournament Arnaud Gabas was scheduled to umpire at but can't as he's recovering from eye surgery. :hmm:
I see that Shapovalov is back in Ottawa this week, playing in the Gatineau Challenger.
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