DAVIS CUP 2018, R1 - GB vs Spain [Archive]

suttontennis

12-04-2017, 12:30

JerryD

12-04-2017, 12:57

Have the dates been confirmed yet?

Hawkeye

12-04-2017, 13:14

1st round - 2, 3, 4 Feb.
QF - 6, 7, 8 April
SF - 14, 15, 16 Sep.
Final - 23, 24, 25 November

roytennisfan

12-04-2017, 13:21

As some of us must have too much time on our hands, i've looked at the teams who are in the world group playoff round, plus the teams defeated in the QF and those still in the competition, to see who we could be drawn against and most importantly, where.
HOME MATCHES - Italy, Serbia, France, Belgium. Croatia, Switzerland, Czech Rep., Germany, Canada
AWAY MATCHES - USA,Spain, Australia, Argentina. Netherlands, Portugal, Japan, Brazil, India, Russia, Hungary
DECIDED BY DRAW - Kazakhstan, Colombia, Belarus.

I expect the 8 seeded teams to be those teams who contested the QF, so it's unlikely we will be drawn against Italy, USA, Spain, Serbia, France, USA, Australia or Belgium. So you can take your pick of the rest, and start reserving hotel rooms...Budapest any-one ?

Sorry you're wrong, see my posts on DC other matches, I put the 8 unseeded ones we could face if they all win and then later comments about the playoffs would affect it unless the 8 seeded playoff teams win

Argentina and Croatia are definitely seeded if they win playoff and, having seen the updated tables on Monday, Switzerland almost certainly will be

So we can still draw Italy (H) USA (A) and Spain (A), at present 4 home 4 away if all the seeds win

If seeds loose we could see less chance of home matches, better for us if all the seeds win

roytennisfan

12-04-2017, 13:34

From DC other ties thread

If all 8 seeds win, our potential R1 Feb 18 opponents could be (*points will drop after September and November but may not change these options)

Czech (H)
Italy(H)
USA(A)
Spain(A)
Germany(H)
Japan(A)
Russia(A)
Canada(H)

So currently 4 home options and trips to USA, Spain, Japan or Russia

If any of the higher ranked teams loose in the playoffs (Argentina Croatia or Switzerland), then Czech will become 2018 Seeds and replaced by the promoted team as an option

roytennisfan

12-04-2017, 13:48

We can't meet any of the other 5 teams we would definitely be at home to until the QF or SF, GB will probably be seeded 4th for the 2018 DC
Of the unseeded playoff teams, none would automatically be at home, 5 away, 3 by lots as Suttontennis has correctly shown in his post

roytennisfan

12-04-2017, 14:23

RANKINGS 10 APR 2017
Rank Nation Points
1 ARGENTINA 26920
2 GREAT BRITAIN 23809.07
3 FRANCE 17743.75
4 BELGIUM 16030
5 CROATIA 13596.26
6 SWITZERLAND 12025
7 AUSTRALIA 11200
8 SERBIA 10625
9 CZECH REPUBLIC 8562.5
10 ITALY 6783.13

GB are going to drop just over 4,000 points (25% of points won in Sept and Nov)all other teams who won in Sept/Nov over past 4 years will also drop points then as well, pretty nailed on GB will be seeded no lower than 4th next year, winners 1st finalists 2nd Argentina 3rd (unless they loose in kazakhstan) GB 4th This also means we couldn't face Argentina until the final

SF winners get 6,000 points final winners 8,000 and teams get 25% extra for an away win

suttontennis

12-04-2017, 15:11

Sorry you're wrong, see my posts on DC other matches, I put the 8 unseeded ones we could face if they all win and then later comments about the playoffs would affect it unless the 8 seeded playoff teams win

Argentina and Croatia are definitely seeded if they win playoff and, having seen the updated tables on Monday, Switzerland almost certainly will be

So we can still draw Italy (H) USA (A) and Spain (A), at present 4 home 4 away if all the seeds win

If seeds loose we could see less chance of home matches, better for us if all the seeds win

thanks for putting me right, I've edited my original post.

patlowe

12-04-2017, 16:34

1st round - 2, 3, 4 Feb.
QF - 6, 7, 8 April
SF - 14, 15, 16 Sep.
Final - 23, 24, 25 November

So the new format (over 2 days) will not be taking place in 2018 then? Or if it is, presumably the ties will be on the Friday and the Saturday??

WimbledonWestie

12-04-2017, 16:53

Ooh I hope not as I can't really do Friday- esp if matches are only best of 3.

JerryD

12-04-2017, 16:53

I think we are awaiting a decision in August

Hawkeye

12-04-2017, 17:24

So the new format (over 2 days) will not be taking place in 2018 then? Or if it is, presumably the ties will be on the Friday and the Saturday??
As far as I've seen, the reduction to best of three is the only change at the moment.

roytennisfan

12-04-2017, 17:40

thanks for putting me right, I've edited my original post.

You did sterling work, I can verify everything else is correct, I also spent some time/discussed some with John, who sends his regards

patlowe

12-04-2017, 18:52

So the new format (over 2 days) will not be taking place in 2018 then? Or if it is, presumably the ties will be on the Friday and the Saturday??

:doh: I meant to say that if the ties were reduced to 2 days, presumably that would be the Saturday and the Sunday!! Still not recovered from all my travels...brain is dead!! However purely academic at the moment.

WimbledonWestie

12-04-2017, 19:02

Ah that's better!

jagmad

16-04-2017, 01:11

So the new format (over 2 days) will not be taking place in 2018 then? Or if it is, presumably the ties will be on the Friday and the Saturday??

So if it's going to be Friday, Saturday, could someone please explain to me how that helps families with kids coming to DC?
Surely Sat/Sun would be much better?
So if it isn't Sat/Sun can we all agree that the reasons for the changes are very little to do with, being "Family friendly" at all?

I've never professed to have all the answers but me personally, I can smell garbage from a mile off.
If we had 2 day 3 set format in 2015 we would never have been Champions imo.
As Andy would have had to play two matches in one day, that's a possible six sets not five. Ok if your not playing Kieth after the doubles.
If that's what the top players are thinking, which I'm sure they will, along with the terrible scheduling. And. No ranking points.
I can't see how this makes it any better for them.

I agree that we will all get used to it, just as we have done before, but please lets not allow them to pull the wool over our eyes.
I liken it to going to the shop to buy your usual brand of a favourite food, and it says N-E-W & I-M-P-R-O-V-E-D on the label.
You know it's gonna be Y-U-K. As you sit there wondering why the hell did they have to change it?

How long do you think before the Slams do the same?
Because of the schedule?
Everyone wants a piece of the pie. It's a slippery slope.
:getcoat:

Josephine

16-04-2017, 05:28

Stell

16-04-2017, 07:47

I have been wondering if we'll get Germany at some point next year, as we hadn't played Canada since 1967 (I think) and I know we haven't played the Germans for a very long time as well.

jagmad

17-04-2017, 16:07

The person who mentioned Friday and Saturday above said they meant Saturday and Sunday! There doesn't seem to be any official suggestion of Friday and Saturday.

It seems the reduction to 3 sets for singles only, with matches over 3 days seems to be the favoured option for now. Which Andy supports, and as he has actual experience of playing DC which none of us have, I am prepared to accept his judgement.

My initial starting of my post was thus:
So if it's going to be Friday, Saturday, could someone please explain to me how that helps families with kids coming to DC?

Sorry if I should have emphasised the IF a little more.

So if it's three sets for singles only I can't see how it can be done in two days and it be better for Andy unless he doesn't play doubles.

Which Andy supports, and as he has actual experience of playing DC which none of us have, I am prepared to accept his judgement.

My reply would be "what professional/craftsman would say no to changing from a five day working week to a three day with no loss of remuneration?"
(By remuneration I mean Gain in this case.)

I believe that it will stay three day and always have, which would make most sense for teams without depth. (ie GB)
I also believe as stated above the grand slams will be next.
Clay being the first.
Remember where you heard it first.

JerryD

17-04-2017, 16:44

At the moment the proposed changes seem to be a reduction from best of 5 to beat of 3 for the singles, a reduction from 3 days to 2 though this may not be applied to the world group, and a neutral final venue. These proposals will be considered and decided on by the ITF in August.

If you want to voice your objections to this changes (though who knows if it will do any good), then you can email them to DC.chnage@lta.org to find out more about the changes and sign a petition against them visit https://www.change.org/p/itf-save-the-davis-cup-before-it-changes-forever

I have placed it on this thread as I don't think any changes will apply to 2017 and this one is for 2018

The opponent for 2018 first round will be decided in the draw in September after the play offs.

Josephine

17-04-2017, 17:27

Well guess we will just have to wait and see.

I assume Andy is supporting 3 set matches because he thinks it is more likely he and other top players will play. I have no idea what he thinks about 2 days as I am referring to an interview where he talked only about the change to 3 sets being a good idea.

Yes if he plays only 3 set matches, he will do less work - but if he doesn't play at all he will do even less work! And gain a lovely time in Nice, or wherever - where he didn't seem too bothered about DC!

jagmad

17-04-2017, 22:28

In your own words:
"Well guess we will just have to wait and see."

Yes if he plays only 3 set matches, he will do less work - but if he doesn't play at all he will do even less work! And gain a lovely time in Nice, or wherever - where he didn't seem too bothered about DC!

I wasn't referring to just Andy All top players/anyone.

It sort of makes more sense to reduce to three set singles after the removal of ranking points, but that just makes two mistakes.
Although as I've posted on here before that two wrongs never make a right.
Don't forget when it comes to mistakes the powers that be ironically they could have the full set of three soon.

Remove ranking points, Three set singles, Neutral venue.

Also I noticed that the French fans in Rouen held up single letters spelling out their feelings saying "NO" to the changes.
Wonder if that made the TV coverage?

Josephine

18-04-2017, 08:24

Which Andy supports, and as he has actual experience of playing DC which none of us have, I am prepared to accept his judgement.

My reply would be "what professional/craftsman would say no to changing from a five day working week to a three day with no loss of remuneration?"
(By remuneration I mean Gain in this case.)

Well it looked like you were referring to Andy as you quoted that line mentioning Andy!

I am in favour of 3 set singles, 5 set doubles over 3 days. No neutral venue. In Slams, top players generally don't play doubles and don't have to play 5 set matches 2 days in a row (unless because of weather delays - seen as a huge disadvantage). In DC if a player plays doubles too - Andy, Fed, Stan, Delpo to name a few, they are playing three 5 set matches on 3 consectutive days - so very demanding in that few days. So quite understandable Andy and top players want fewer sets.

roytennisfan

18-04-2017, 12:16

Caro

18-04-2017, 12:54

To me the Davis Cup should be a Blue Ribbon event, the World Cup of Tennis and should not be downgraded further but restated as a top event

To do that, it should NOT be the week after either Slams or the ATP Finals, so rescheduled back a week, swap dates with the 250's in February and September and also the Final put back a week.

To reflect it's importance, wins in the world group should be awarded 250, 350, 500 & 750 points and every competitor should be guaranteed at least 25,35, 50 & 75 appearance points (other groups pro rata 50-200 points, with appearance points as well)

That leaves the 3 matches in 3 days issue, rather than losing best of 5, I would prefer to see players limited to 2 playing matches, either 2 singles or a singles + a doubles. However, from the spectators side I would prefer no change, players can choose not to play all 3, just like DelPo did in Glasgow, it is their choice

Neutral venues, my reaction to that (and 2 days, 3 sets etc) is did somebody run a competition...how to ruin the Davis Cup

I agree with much of what you have said Roy. I am a massive DC fan and have been for many years. I don't like to see it changed at all but if it gets more top players playing and it's what the players want then so be it ... NOT the neutral final venue though, which I think most players are against anyway.

You mentioned the scheduling ... it was actually the players who wanted DC ties after the Slams but i think they perhaps wouldn't go for that again if they had the choice back.

jagmad

18-04-2017, 14:21

Well it looked like you were referring to Andy as you quoted that line mentioning Andy!

I am in favour of 3 set singles, 5 set doubles over 3 days. No neutral venue. In Slams, top players generally don't play doubles and don't have to play 5 set matches 2 days in a row (unless because of weather delays - seen as a huge disadvantage). In DC if a player plays doubles too - Andy, Fed, Stan, Delpo to name a few, they are playing three 5 set matches on 3 consectutive days - so very demanding in that few days. So quite understandable Andy and top players want fewer sets.

Please understand it was you who singled out Andy in the first instance, Which Andy supports, and as he has actual experience of playing DC which none of us have, I am prepared to accept his judgement.
my reply was: "what professional/craftsman would say no to changing from a five day working week to a three day with no loss of remuneration?"
(By remuneration I mean Gain in this case.)

None of this is meant personal, I feel anyone is allowed to disagree with someone without denigrating them.
I can have differing views to someone and still respect them.
It's called discussion, and without two sides there's no coin. I just so happen to believe that the powers that be are
not seeing both sides of the coin, if any. Maybe they're just thinking about the coin/money.

I don't believe I am alone in this either.
:hug:

jagmad

18-04-2017, 14:25

I agree with much of what you have said Roy. I am a massive DC fan and have been for many years. I don't like to see it changed at all but if it gets more top players playing and it's what the players want then so be it ... NOT the neutral final venue though, which I think most players are against anyway.

You mentioned the scheduling ... it was actually the players who wanted DC ties after the Slams but i think they perhaps wouldn't go for that again if they had the choice back.

Hi Caro. Do you know if was that before or after the removal of the points?

Josephine

18-04-2017, 15:06

I apologise if I upset anyone.

I respect Andy's view as a player. He knows what is is like to play 3 best of 5 set matches over 3 days, under immense pressure, and how much that can affect a player longer term.

Caro

18-04-2017, 15:19

Hi Caro. Do you know if was that before or after the removal of the points?
It was before I think.

Teresa

18-04-2017, 16:40

I think it should stay exactly as it is, but bringing the points back, and having it biannually. Avoiding Olympic years. I think the proposed changes will destroy it.

JerryD

29-06-2017, 07:49

Sorry if this is the wrong Davis cup thread for this... Geneva has been selected as the preferred bid for the venue for the joint Davis cup and fed cup finals in 2018. The arena holds over 18000 and the event would be on hard court and held there for 3 years.
It is an expensive place but so we're the other options of Denmark, Italy, USA and China. Turkey would have been a problem for many as k ow people have safety concerns about it. I am sad that it is going this way but on the bright side it's still on the continent and a place low cost airlines fly to. So should we teach the final in 2018 there will be less people ruled out.

https://www.daviscup.com/en/news/264157.aspx
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Silverdee

29-06-2017, 08:14

Sounds like a done deal!

Alis

29-06-2017, 08:33

I wonder if Fed had something to do with that? ;)

Teresa

29-06-2017, 09:12

I hate the idea of a neutral venue. I can just imagine Fed being wheeled on for ever more, and having all the attention focused on him.

Vomit inducing:-(

JAMES4578

29-06-2017, 11:51

Certainly won't be the same at neutral venue and can't believe it now may well go ahead,even if still to be formally approved. Wouldn't count on GB reaching the final in current circumstances though.

Teresa

29-06-2017, 11:59

Certainly won't be the same at neutral venue and can't believe it now may well go ahead,even if still to be formally approved. Wouldn't count on GB reaching the final in current circumstances though.

No I can't see that happe again within AM's career. I think he has other fish to fry these days. Once he retires I can't see us staying in the World Group. Sad to say with the format changes, I think we have seen the best of DC. Still we will always have Ghent..........

angiebabez

25-07-2017, 18:41

The draw is to take place on wednesday 20th september...so by our forum meet up on 23rd we will know if we have a home tie or not.

Silverdee

25-07-2017, 19:21

The neutral venue won't happen next year. It has been delayed to allow for further consultation according to Mary Pope of BATS

Hawkeye

25-07-2017, 19:32

I'm going to repeat what I said last year, I am going to take a year off from DC. I reserve the right to change my mind if we get a juicy away tie...

Murray rocks

25-07-2017, 19:45

I will be Looking to come if it's home. Won't be able to afford away ties tho.

roytennisfan

25-07-2017, 21:33

I will be Looking to come if it's home. Won't be able to afford away ties tho.
Some if those away ties likely to be long/expensive trips

supergran

25-07-2017, 22:02

It can be a problem can't it? Probably have to make a choice between Grand Slams and D.C.. some years. I'm, guessing that not many of us are made of money. For me, in particular Care is a big drain on our finances so have to be very careful choosing where to go.

JimmyG

25-07-2017, 23:11

I think the likely first round away trips would be Japan, USA, Russia or Spain

themass15

26-07-2017, 06:32

Spain looks attractive to me destination wise but not the easiest one .....

Caro

26-07-2017, 07:10

Spain looks attractive to me destination wise but not the easiest one .....

Exactly! We definitely don't want Spain from the team's perspective .... would almost certainly mean a world group play off later in the year. I would 100% sacrifice a trip to Spain NOT to get that draw in the first round! The other away ties are not really doable for me unless the USA tie is East coast and can be done cheaply .... so here's hoping for a home tie which I will definitely go to.

Teresa

26-07-2017, 08:26

If it was Russia I would very tempted purely for the experience, but I understand getting Russian visa's is a nightmare, and expensive. At least one trip to London or Edinburgh is involved. I don't think you will get much change out of £200 for the visa.

I like Spain, so would be tempted by that, but genuinely can't see AM playing. I think he has other fish to fry.

themass15

26-07-2017, 11:02

Would love to go. Agree with Teresa in that I don't see Andy participating, plus near to Sophia's Birthday. Home tie would be lovely. Perhaps Andy would pay then.

Hawkeye

26-07-2017, 12:08

angiebabez

26-07-2017, 12:52

Who on earth would be our other singles player if andy doesnt play?.

JimmyG

26-07-2017, 12:58

Who on earth would be our other singles player if andy doesnt play?.

Could be Cameron Norrie or Jay Clarke

angiebabez

26-07-2017, 15:02

Could be Cameron Norrie or Jay Clarke

Yeah thats the only 2 i can think of. Jeez talk about getting thrown in at the deep end.

RosieBear

26-07-2017, 15:16

Could be Cameron Norrie or Jay Clarke

Or Willbomb ;) Would definitely dust off the UJ catsuit if our secret weapon is brought in :laugh:

Caro

27-07-2017, 11:46

I've been to Russia in the last few years, the visa process is indeed expensive and complicated, I was lucky in that it was an organised trip for a football match so the travel agent took care of it. You need to have a "sponsor" which can usually be the hotel you are staying at. As much as I'd love to go back, as I was only there for a couple of days, the hassle would probably put me off.

I have also been to Russia but it was YEARS ago. I would love to go back but hassle and expense would put me off too.

Is first round early Feb again??

Hawkeye

27-07-2017, 12:24

Yes, and hfwardhouse and I already have something on on the Friday as it is. :pirate:

roytennisfan

27-07-2017, 18:58

I've been to Russia in the last few years, the visa process is indeed expensive and complicated, I was lucky in that it was an organised trip for a football match so the travel agent took care of it. You need to have a "sponsor" which can usually be the hotel you are staying at. As much as I'd love to go back, as I was only there for a couple of days, the hassle would probably put me off.

I've been to Russia twice without a Visa.....got in both times with football tickets, the Moscow Final in 2008 and last month for the Confederations Cup for which it was much cheaper and less complicated to buy a ticket than go through the visa process etc. It will be the same next year for the World cup but that is in June and July, not in February.

roytennisfan

27-07-2017, 19:02

Cameron is GB #6 and Jay #7, Willbomb is #11 and #5 is Brydan (Klein), I couldn't envisage him being selected in front of either Cam or Jay. Going to be tough staying in the World Group unless they develop really quickly and we get good draws!

angiebabez

27-07-2017, 20:11

glenys

01-08-2017, 09:47

Brydan cant be selected, it's a bit like the Aljaz situation

suttontennis

04-08-2017, 07:23

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/40823511

so the DC organisers (ITF), do nothing. No change of format, no change to best of 3 sets, no change to once every two years. Only change is allowing the finalists to be at home in the first round. I can envisage Andy, Novak, Roger, Rafa, all choosing not to play DC in the near future.

Teresa

04-08-2017, 07:38

I agree with leaving it as it is, but still think it should be played every other year, and not in Olympic years.

Bardot

04-08-2017, 08:40

Looks like the only decision made is to cancel the pre-tie dinner on a Wednesday. LTA will save money on all those Ted Baker suits. :p

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGXh-EbXkAAY9l7.jpg

roytennisfan

04-08-2017, 09:12

Sounds like really good news for most of us, keeping the 5 sets! reducing court requirement by a day and giving finalists a r1 home tie option, however reducing/cutting down the dead rubber may not be as popular, the Sunday in Rouen was real fun

roytennisfan

04-08-2017, 09:17

Noticed it was very close vote on 3 sets, just 3% short of the two-thirds majority so the fight may not be over

RosieBear

04-08-2017, 10:28

Noticed it was very close vote on 3 sets, just 3% short of the two-thirds majority so the fight may not be over

No way! They had the vote and close or not it was to keep the current format. None of this fighting/voting till you get the right answer malarky! 5 sets it is :yahoo:

Josephine

04-08-2017, 10:40

Andy will be unlikely to play again. Well, only during his farewell year. So not celebrating myself.

Bardot

04-08-2017, 10:53

As the ITF lost the vote, they've changed the rules so that next time any changes to the Davis Cup/Fed Cup will not require the approval of the membership. :shocked:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGYJu6jVYAA89Uf.jpg

RosieBear

04-08-2017, 11:04

Andy will be unlikely to play again. Well, only during his farewell year. So not celebrating myself.

:confused: There'll still be Davis Cup after Andy retires...

glenys

04-08-2017, 11:50

:confused: There'll still be Davis Cup after Andy retires...

Agree, DC after Andy retires will still be DC

I want to do Fed Cup - wish we could get out of that damn annoying group

Josephine

04-08-2017, 12:00

Well I would like to see Andy play. None of the best players, whoever they are, will play. My interest in Edmund or any other Brit is quite small.

I support Andy for the person he is.

In any case the ITF will decide on 3 sets in next couple of years as they have given themselves the power to do so.

Guerkins2

04-08-2017, 12:08

Andy will be unlikely to play again. Well, only during his farewell year. So not celebrating myself.
Interested to know other people's feelings as to whether they think Andy will play again?

themass15

04-08-2017, 12:18

I think he would be far more likely to play in the first tie next year if it at home. Cannot see him going off to Japan straight after Australia, although it is on the way home ....

angiebabez

04-08-2017, 12:41

Interested to know other people's feelings as to whether they think Andy will play again?

I think he will

JimmyG

04-08-2017, 13:04

I think he would play if we're in a relegation play-off next September

Caro

04-08-2017, 13:38

I would be VERY surprised if Andy doesn't play again. I'm sure he would have preferred 3 sets from the commitment point of view but he loves playing DC .... I can't see him giving it up completely and neither should he or all the other top players IMO.

Josephine

04-08-2017, 15:54

Well I suppose it depends on his health injury wise. Can imagine him being wary of playing and aggravating any issues when Slams are now his priority.

He will definitely play in his last year and maybe the odd tie, but I can't see him committing to a whole campaign.

Andy stated in a TV interview that he wanted matches to be 3 sets in DC, so no doubt of that.

Stell

28-08-2017, 12:02

In 23 days time, we'll know who we get in the first round.

Stell

29-08-2017, 08:11

I remember, last year, the draw was done in London and they showed it live on their website. Where is the draw being done this time and what time will it take place?

themass15

08-09-2017, 13:14

The draw is being done in London on Wednesday, 20th September at 3 p.m.

Linda

09-09-2017, 18:22

Hoping that the tie will be in Europe! *fingerscrossed*

Stell

11-09-2017, 10:29

The draw will be shown live on their website.

Hawkeye

17-09-2017, 17:39

So, according to JimmyG on Facebook, potential opponents are...

USA (Away)
Spain (Away)
Germany (Home)
Japan (Away)
Canada (Home)
Kazakhstan (Draw of lot)
Netherlands (Away)
Hungary (Away)

RosieBear

17-09-2017, 18:36

I really fancy a weekend in Budapest:peace:

themass15

17-09-2017, 19:10

I really fancy a weekend in Budapest:peace:

Budapest is a lovely city but will be cold at that time of the year

angiebabez

17-09-2017, 19:12

Budapest is a lovely city but will be cold at that time of the year

Its not cold inside a venue or boozer ...buy a heavy coat & boots for outside lol

Linda

17-09-2017, 19:34

It won't be as cold as Ottawa!

roytennisfan

17-09-2017, 19:47

It won't be as cold as Ottawa!

Or Moscow if Russia had won!

RosieBear

17-09-2017, 19:53

Or Glasgow :p

roytennisfan

17-09-2017, 19:55

So, according to JimmyG on Facebook, potential opponents are...

USA (Away)
Spain (Away)
Germany (Home)
Japan (Away)
Canada (Home)
Kazakhstan (Draw of lot)
Netherlands (Away)
Hungary (Away)

Yes Assuming Japan and Canada both win, which seems likely, the Swiss recovery meant the trip to USA is still on, Italy gone because Argentina lost
so Japan, USA and (by lots) Kazahkstan would be long and costly journeys
Holland, Hungary and Spain not so bad...but Spain a very tough playing option
Germany/Canada or Kazachstan(lots), well we would need a venue in Feb

Sallydaisy

17-09-2017, 20:07

I'd LOVE to go to Budapest.
:big grin:

JimmyG

17-09-2017, 20:36

Budapest would be great and winnable, have been there in summer when it was 35c+, lovely city.

angiebabez

17-09-2017, 21:06

Wonder when the checking of flights to various cities will begin..

Bet champagne james is on the case already :laugh:

roytennisfan

17-09-2017, 21:28

Wonder when the checking of flights to various cities will begin..

Bet champagne james is on the case already :laugh:

JimmyG any idea how to get to Astana in February on a budget?

JimmyG

17-09-2017, 21:30

Wonder when the checking of flights to various cities will begin..

Bet champagne james is on the case already :laugh:

Budapest from Edinburgh £92 cheapest or £144 direct! I like it! :wino:

JimmyG

17-09-2017, 21:42

JimmyG any idea how to get to Astana in February on a budget?

It doesn't look good, best I've seen so far is £327 Tuesday-Monday from London via Kiev

Or £460 Tues/Thurs-Monday direct from London (arrives Astana early the next morning)

Caley Shaun

17-09-2017, 22:03

So, according to JimmyG on Facebook, potential opponents are...

USA (Away)
Spain (Away)
Germany (Home)
Japan (Away)
Canada (Home)
Kazakhstan (Draw of lot)
Netherlands (Away)
Hungary (Away)

Spain, USA, Canada and possibly Japan ones to avoid imho, especially Spain and US due to strength in depth.

For me its either Hungary, Netherlands or Germany.

Kazakhstan is tough to say, they did beat Switzerland one year and were close to beating Serbia as well.

jagmad

18-09-2017, 00:21

Its not cold inside a venue or boozer ...buy a heavy coat & boots for outside lol

Hmmmmmm?
A weekend in Budapest with a Rosie bear to keep me warm and Angiebabez to get Budda pesht with.
Now there's an offer I couldn't refuse.
:wino::whistle::cold:

Linda

18-09-2017, 08:01

I'd love to go to Budapest too :)

RosieBear

18-09-2017, 10:52

Hmmmmmm?
A weekend in Budapest with a Rosie bear to keep me warm and Angiebabez to get Budda pesht with.
Now there's an offer I couldn't refuse.
:wino::whistle::cold:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Well it really better be Budapest now, anywhere else will just seem disappointing in comparison!

Stell

18-09-2017, 10:57

I've only been to the USA and the Netherlands, but that was years ago. I still wouldn't be surprised if we got Germany. As we hadn't played Canada for many years, when we got them in the draw.

Jan62

18-09-2017, 11:26

I'd love to go to Kazakhstan but Hungary would be easier to get to! Never been to Budapest and would really like to go. Fingers crossed its not the USA!

themass15

18-09-2017, 11:51

Budapest is a lovely City but Spain might be more desirable in the middle of Winter even if it is a tougher tie

Teresa

18-09-2017, 12:11

Would be very tempted by Budapest.

Apro of nothing, and to avoid spamming Sally. My apologies for being dense................

Hawkeye

18-09-2017, 12:28

I hope it's not Budapest, as I can't go to the February tie.

Caro

18-09-2017, 12:36

I'd LOVE to go to Budapest.
:big grin:

Budapest would be great and winnable, have been there in summer when it was 35c+, lovely city.

I'd love to go too ... BUT my colleague is away on holiday in India over the 2 weeks of the DC weekend which means that as things stand I can't have the Thurs or Mon off work :crying::crying:
Soooo I am really really hoping for a home tie so it's doable. There is a small chance that our current part time colleague will be full time by then which would make things much easier as I could then take time off. However, it might be too short notice to organise tickets etc ... so all in all I am preparing myself that I won't be able to go *sharp intake of breath*

roytennisfan

18-09-2017, 13:24

Spain, USA, Canada and possibly Japan ones to avoid imho, especially Spain and US due to strength in depth.

For me its either Hungary, Netherlands or Germany.

Kazakhstan is tough to say, they did beat Switzerland one year and were close to beating Serbia as well.

And lead Australia 2-1 in Australia in 2015 QF, had them down as a possible shock at home to the holders, a home tie to them would be ok though

roytennisfan

18-09-2017, 13:26

It doesn't look good, best I've seen so far is £327 Tuesday-Monday from London via Kiev

Or £460 Tues/Thurs-Monday direct from London (arrives Astana early the next morning)

Still probably cheaper than Japan and USA, not just flights but hotels and food etc

JimmyG

18-09-2017, 14:42

https://www.daviscup.com/en/news/273339.aspx

18 Sep 2017
The ITF has announced the seeds for the Draws for the 2018 Davis Cup and Fed Cup by BNP Paribas, which will be held alongside each other for the first time at the BNP Paribas offices in London on Wednesday 20 September at 15:00 local time (14:00 GMT).

The Draws will be streamed live on www.daviscup.com and www.facebook.com/DavisCupTennis.

Wednesday’s draw ceremony will include the draws for the 2018 Davis Cup World Group, and Fed Cup World Group and World Group II. The draws for Davis Cup Asia/Oceania Zone Groups I and II, Americas Zone Groups I and II, and Europe/Africa Zone Group I will also take place.

The draw for 2018 Europe/Africa Zone Group II will be held following the Davis Cup Europe/Africa Zone Group I play-off tie on 20-22 October.

Davis Cup World Group

According to the Davis Cup Regulations, the two finalist nations are seeded No. 1 and No. 2 in the World Group for the following year, and will be drawn in opposite halves. Seeds 3-8 are in accordance with the latest ITF Davis Cup Nations Ranking of 18 September. The two finalist nations will both be guaranteed choice of ground.

1. France
2. Belgium
3. Great Britain
4. Croatia
5. Switzerland
6. Australia
7. Serbia
8. Italy

The seeded nations will be drawn against the remaining World Group nations: Canada, Germany, Hungary, Japan, Kazakhstan, Netherlands, Spain and USA.

JerryD

18-09-2017, 16:03

Budapest is a lovely city but will be cold at that time of the year

We went in Feb 2012 (could have been 11 lol) the river was dressing over but it was beautiful. Very cold but thermal leggings and thick boots, 2 pairs of socks and two coats helped :)

JerryD

18-09-2017, 16:09

I'd love to go too ... BUT my colleague is away on holiday in India over the 2 weeks of the DC weekend which means that as things stand I can't have the Thurs or Mon off work :crying::crying:
Soooo I am really really hoping for a home tie so it's doable. There is a small chance that our current part time colleague will be full time by then which would make things much easier as I could then take time off. However, it might be too short notice to organise tickets etc ... so all in all I am preparing myself that I won't be able to go *sharp intake of breath*

Well in that case I'm hoping for a home tie for you. Or maybe the Netherlands and we could all hire a big bus and drive through the night on Thursday/Friday :P then get you back for Monday.

themass15

18-09-2017, 16:20

Holland would be easy for most people. Easy to get around by train from Amsterdam too.

Stell

19-09-2017, 07:24

If it is an away tie, the easiest one for would be the Netherlands. As I would take the coach to Victoria and another coach to Amsterdam. The easiest one of all would be a home tie and I just drive there.

WimbledonWestie

19-09-2017, 16:57

Only chance I have of getting there is a home tie- and that depends on me being able to get there Friday night and home Sunday night. Crossing everything as I'll be away when the qf are on.

Stell

20-09-2017, 07:39

Not long to go before the draw.

Caro

20-09-2017, 12:31

Well in that case I'm hoping for a home tie for you. Or maybe the Netherlands and we could all hire a big bus and drive through the night on Thursday/Friday :P then get you back for Monday.

Aww bless ... I'm hoping it doesn't come to that but I am desperate to find a way to make it work if it's a doable away tie. Only a couple of hours to wait now ....

Stell

20-09-2017, 13:00

One hour to go.

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:04

They've started, but no sound.

jaysee

20-09-2017, 14:05

No sound on their Facebook live feed either.

Jane

20-09-2017, 14:08

Sound now!!!

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:09

The sound started working after the man stopped talking.

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:19

The crowd titters, as France get Belgium in the Fed Cup.

suttontennis

20-09-2017, 14:19

Americas Group 2, what we've been waiting for !!

roytennisfan

20-09-2017, 14:33

And still we wait. I need to go out soon but will try to keep broadcast on

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:34

Now onto the main group.

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:36

We're on Line 5.

suttontennis

20-09-2017, 14:38

Spain it is

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:38

We've been given Spain.

suttontennis

20-09-2017, 14:39

Spain's first home tie since 2013

themass15

20-09-2017, 14:40

Spain it is. Difficult but destination wise could be a lot worse.

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:40

The winner gets either Australia or Germany in the quarters.

roytennisfan

20-09-2017, 14:42

Just heard, nice trip but toughest match, I have a feeling Andy will miss this one and it will be Kyle and Cameron

themass15

20-09-2017, 14:42

Australia away, Germany home

JerryD

20-09-2017, 14:44

Yikes. Not what we were hoping for. If it had to be away then yes Europe is better but someone other than Spain would be even better than that! Boo! Oh well anything is possible, under our great captain with support from the amazing fans who knows how the team will do :) go gb!

suttontennis

20-09-2017, 14:49

After Canada in midwinter, and an unexpectedly chilly Serbia in July, I bet the die hard travellers are rather pleased to be getting some Winter Sun.
Will be on clay without doubt, don't expect Nadal to play unless Murray plays, but the Spanish should be able to put out a strong enough team (Bautista Agut, Carreno Busta, Lopez/Lopez) to cope with even a fully fit Andy, who won't relish the quick change from Aussie Hard Court to Spanish clay.

JimmyG

20-09-2017, 14:49

I think no chance of Andy playing on clay so hard to see GB winning. Should be a good weekend though :wino:

Stell

20-09-2017, 14:54

I remember France chose Guadeloupe for their first round tie. Will Spain chose the Canary Islands? I've never been there.

JerryD

20-09-2017, 14:55

Yes I'm sure it be on clay too. I guess a lot of who plays the will depend on how far people get in OZ. I think it's unlikely that Andy plays, but agree with James, should be good regardless :) they have so many options for a location too. Any ideas?

suttontennis

20-09-2017, 14:59

I hope they avoid the obvious choices of Barcelona or Madrid. They have played in Ovideo, Castellon, Gijon, Cordoba, Logrono, as well as the Magic Box. Anywhere that has a Bull Ring (except Birmingham)

themass15

20-09-2017, 14:59

If outside it would need to be quite far South or the Canaries. So many towns though, it will hard to guess at where it will be played.

roytennisfan

20-09-2017, 15:01

The one consulation is, if we go into the playoffs in September, then that we will be seeded and can't get Argentina or any other seeds

suttontennis

20-09-2017, 15:10

Perhaps where the WTA played the Mallorca open. They could put a clay court down if they don't have one already.

Sallydaisy

20-09-2017, 15:14

Sallydaisy

20-09-2017, 15:23

Full Draw, sorry it's a bit big!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKLUEZ1WsAAlGI8.png

jaysee

20-09-2017, 15:27

Host nation has to submit the "questionnaire" to the ITF at least 80 days before the first round. I make that 14th November, so it could be quite a wait to find out where in Spain they are holding it! :nailbiter:

lovetennis

20-09-2017, 16:20

Toughest of draws. I doubt Andy ( or Rafa ) will play. Kyle is good on clay at least but still a tough one.

Linda

20-09-2017, 17:53

Might well be indoors at that time of year. If outdoors would have to be far South or Canaries.

JAMES4578

20-09-2017, 18:47

Certainly a challenging tie and one I hoped GB would avoid in the 1st round, obviously may still be good in terms of having a large number of travelling fans but will depend on the venue and not everyone will be able to take a long weekend at that time of year. Must be doubts about either Andy or Rafa making it but will be tough without the strongest spanish team.

RosieBear

20-09-2017, 18:48

Just home now to see the draw....and ugghhhh that is the worst in every way. Toughest for the team and I have zero desire to watch a Spanish clay-grindathon. Honestly, if France has produced an embarrassment of riches when it comes to flair players Spain has churned out grinders like nowhere else on earth :sad: Think I'd actually prefer a meet up in this country as Caro suggested ;)

Linda

20-09-2017, 19:17

This article from Steve Tignor on the Wimbledon website explains why clay court tennis is the most skilful.

http://www.wimbledon.com/en_GB/news/articles/2016-04-22/surface_issues_in_praise_of_the_clay_game.html

jaysee

06-11-2017, 17:55

Has anyone heard any rumours as to the venue yet?

Sallydaisy

06-11-2017, 22:02

Has anyone heard any rumours as to the venue yet?
erm, nope.

Caro

09-11-2017, 13:34

Has anyone heard any rumours as to the venue yet?

erm, nope.

Err ... yep! ... as of today - Julie80 has posted in the coaches corner travel thread ... rumours of outdoor clay in Southern Spain. Actual venue to be announced next week apparently (from Stuart Fraser)

Jan62

09-11-2017, 13:37

Stuart Fraser says Marbellais in the running, outdoor clay (no surprise there). Goes to research flights to Marbs.......

Caro

09-11-2017, 21:39

Stuart Fraser says Marbellais in the running, outdoor clay (no surprise there). Goes to research flights to Marbs.......

And as we all know now, Marbella confirmed

Silverdee

09-11-2017, 21:58

Info on Marbella venue here

http://www.surinenglish.com/sport/201711/03/marbella-would-expand-puente-20171103095400-v.html?ns_campaign=surinenglish&ns_mchannel=web&ns_source=noticias-relacionadas&ns_linkname=pos-1&ns_fee=0

roytennisfan

20-11-2017, 21:04

Guessing our team will be Jamie, Dom, Kyle , Cameron and probably Liam (although Jay could put in a late spurt)

suttontennis

21-11-2017, 08:16

guessing the Spanish team will be Carreno-Busta, Bautista-Agut, Ramos-Vinolas, or even Verdasco, & Lopez + Lopez

harriet

21-11-2017, 15:28

and Rafa? or doesn't he do Davis Cup?

suttontennis

21-11-2017, 16:11

and Rafa? or doesn't he do Davis Cup?

they won't need a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. As he's struggling to be fit for the start of the year, like Andy I can't see this tie featuring high on his priority list.

JerryD

21-11-2017, 20:35

I can't see Raffa playing. He is injured and has concerns for his knee. If he is fit for the Aussie it's even more unlikely as changing surfaces is worse for his knee than the type of surface. He does need to play twice I think if he wants to represent Spain in the Olympics but he has time. He'd be better waiting until the surface matches one of the season or at least until he's not coming off injury.

Linda

21-11-2017, 20:42

I'm sure Rafa won't play this tie. If Spain lose, then he would play in the play-off to avoid relegation.

roytennisfan

21-01-2018, 10:44

Good to see three of our team into the second week in Melbourne and that's without Andy
Jamie plays his r16 mixed doubles with Chan and Dom plays r16 doubles with Daniell, both on court2 Monday, Kyle with play his QF Tuesday

lovetennis

21-01-2018, 14:27

I'm sure Rafa won't play this tie. If Spain lose, then he would play in the play-off to avoid relegation.

Pretty sure I saw a tweet in Spanish this morning confirming he won't play this tie but I can't find it again to post the link

themass15

21-01-2018, 14:33

Thought I had seen something but it was for last year

themass15

21-01-2018, 14:38

Looks as though the Spanish will announce their team at 2 p.m. on Tuesday, 23rd January
http://www.rfet.es/noticias/det/Presentacion_del_equipo_de_Copa_Davis_y_de_la_nuev a_equipacion_de_las_selecciones_espanolas_de_tenis/8419.html

roytennisfan

21-01-2018, 14:50

My Guess is Agut, Verdasco, Ferrer, Lopez and Lopez and ours Kyle Cam Jay Jamie and Dom, not claiming it'll be correct though

roytennisfan

21-01-2018, 14:54

Spain could go stronger of course with Carreno Busta and Ramos Vinolas who are both down for Quito on Feb 5th and Kyle's form may make Spain push for one or both of them to play, only option we have is Liam

themass15

21-01-2018, 14:59

I would think Carreno Busta would be in with the Lopez's not sure about the other player.

themass15

21-01-2018, 15:59

http://www.lavanguardia.com/deportes/tenis/20180121/44183289389/rafa-nadal-copa-davis.html

Confirmation Rafa will not play in Marbella. Mentions RBA, the Lops and Granollers.

sir coolerking

23-01-2018, 10:21

Just heard Leon Smith announce the team on 5Live. Edmund, Norrie, Broadie, Murray & Inglot (you can select 5 now).

roytennisfan

23-01-2018, 14:22

Carreno Busta, Agut Ramos Vinolas, Ferrer and Feliciano Lopez

roytennisfan

23-01-2018, 14:25

http://www.lavanguardia.com/deportes/tenis/20180121/44183289389/rafa-nadal-copa-davis.html

Confirmation Rafa will not play in Marbella. Mentions RBA, the Lops and Granollers.

So Spain have re-enforced a bit, following Kyle's good form in Melbourne with their next 3 players after Rafa, thought they might, shame was hoping to see Fernando

themass15

23-01-2018, 15:04

I think David Ferrer will be one of the singles players

roytennisfan

23-01-2018, 16:04

Linda

23-01-2018, 19:10

Hmmm, Ferrer and Lopez announced their retirement from DC several years ago but they still keep getting called up! I think Feli is 36 and Daveed can't be much younger.

jagmad

24-01-2018, 00:57

Kyle has never faced either of the left handers, is 2-2 with Ferrer, 1-0 with Agut and 0-1 with Carreno Busta, all on hard courts. Kyle also lost a futures match to Carreno Busta on an outdoor clay court 5 years ago when he was 18 (CB is 4 years older).

None of these have a lot of relevance, he has beaten some previously but not on outdoor clay, Kyle is certainly capable of winning both singles if he maintains his form and fitness.#

Jamie and Dom will have a tough doubles game, other two rubbers are really asking too much.

I agree Roy but hasn't it been the same for some time, when we only had Andy/Jamie we felt we could rely on?
Not saying others haven't been key because they have, it's a team comp. That's what makes it so good imo
And remember Andy had to play all three days a lot of the time, Kyle will at least get a day off.
I don't think Spain are considering this a gimme at all.
All to play for. Let's stay optimistic I say.

Alis

24-01-2018, 17:58

Does anyone know if Olly Golding is persevering with his comeback? I think he won one or two tournaments in the latter part of last year but I haven't heard anything of him since.

Stell

25-01-2018, 10:42

BBC 2 might be showing the tie next Friday from 1pm (13.00pm) for two hours.

jaysee

25-01-2018, 12:51

Does anyone know if Olly Golding is persevering with his comeback? I think he won one or two tournaments in the latter part of last year but I haven't heard anything of him since.

His activity record shows 5 Futures in August/September but nothing since then.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/oliver-golding/gc38/player-activity

Alis

25-01-2018, 15:01

His activity record shows 5 Futures in August/September but nothing since then.
http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/players/oliver-golding/gc38/player-activity

That's a pity.

Silverdee

25-01-2018, 15:56

From The Independent:

“...Edmund’s injury could put in doubt his participation in Britain’s Davis Cup tie away to Spain next week. “I’ll do everything I can to play, because I want to play and I want to be there with the team,” he said. “But there is no point going on court if I’m not ready, because you hinder the team as well...

You basically give up a rubber if you’re not ready. I don’t know percentage-wise what the chances are, but if I’m not ready, I’ll say, because you want to give the opportunity to other players that are there to play.”...

JAMES4578

25-01-2018, 16:18

Will be disappointing if Edmund not fit enough, however obviously can't take undue risks. Personally I'd take the Aus semi over Kyle playing very well in Dc but under performing at the slam.

JerryD

25-01-2018, 22:31

I was worried Kyle's run in the AO may mean he pulls out of Spain but in his press conference he said he'll fly there on Monday :) hopefully the change in surfaces won't be too hard on him

JerryD

25-01-2018, 22:35

Blast! Is avoided all news articles all day because I couldn't watch the match until tonight. Just finished it and watched the press conference and posted some happy comment about what he said on a different thread only to see the comments from the article on this one :(

That being said, I agree with James, I'd rather have him do well in a slam if I had the choice. I guess we will wait and see

Reef

26-01-2018, 09:52

I personally wish they would enforce 3-set rule for DC as it's so tough on the body, especially for a player who has just gone deep into a Slam and is carrying any sort of injury. We've seen this so often with Andy obviously.

Stell

26-01-2018, 10:34

The Red Button will be showing next Friday's matches from about 9.35am or 9.40am.

Stell

27-01-2018, 09:55

After having contacting the BBC, on Wednesday, about their coverage of our tie against Spain the BBC have changed their coverage. The Red Button will show Friday's matches from 9.50am until the finish and BBC 2 will be showing the tie from 1pm (13.00pm) for two hours. On Saturday, BBC 2 will be showing the doubles match between 1pm and 3.30pm (13.00pm until 15.30pm), but could still go onto the Red Button if it isn't finished. On Sunday, the Red Button will be showing the matches from 9.45am until the finish and BBC 2 will be showing it from 10am for three hours.

Stell

27-01-2018, 10:34

In ten Saturdays time, it'll be the quarter final of the doubles match. I hope it'll be us versus either Australia or Germany and not Spain versus Australia or Germany.

cazza99

27-01-2018, 10:51

This is the link for BBC sports coverage which includes red button and on-line coverage - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/36722726

WimbledonWestie

28-01-2018, 20:17

Can't believe the rubbers ( or elastics as a contestant on a UK quiz show called them this week :laugh:) start so early. I was hoping to scoot away sharp from school for a change to catch the second one. Oh well, will leave me more voice for Saturday and Sunday.:GBflag:

jagmad

29-01-2018, 09:56

Rosalind

29-01-2018, 10:00

Just be aware that in my experience the bbc change the channels seemingly on a whim. I now record all applicable channels - you might end up with antiques roadshow or the bowls as well but it's better to be able to delete than miss the tennis.

Everyone who is going - have a wonderful time. I would have loved to have gone but just wasn't able to due to family stuff this time.

Stell

29-01-2018, 10:29

Just in case, I went to a local travel agent today. I got told I would pay, at the moment, just over £1,300 for flights to New Zealand (as I want to visit cousins) and Australia (if it is Brisbane) and then back home. The man told me, the visa would be free as I had to pay £20 the last time I went to Australia which was about five years ago.

roytennisfan

29-01-2018, 10:57

Looking at the pictures, some massive floodlights there, if required

Hawkeye

29-01-2018, 19:15

https://www.facebook.com/britishtennislta/videos/1858895397456914/

Julie80

30-01-2018, 23:26

Anyone know if there is any word on Kyle’s fitness yet?

Hawkeye

31-01-2018, 05:46

He hasn't appeared in any of the British Tennis videos on Facebook, but that could easily be a smokescreen.

JimmyG

31-01-2018, 10:14

The AustralianOpen hero hits the courts in Marbella

https://twitter.com/BritishTennis/status/958641779699482624

themass15

31-01-2018, 10:35

The AustralianOpen hero hits the courts in Marbella

https://twitter.com/BritishTennis/status/958641779699482624

Good news indeed!

Julie80

31-01-2018, 17:35

Looks like Kyle is undergoing a fitness test tomorrow (according to Mike Dickson on Twitter). Fingers crossed!!

Hawkeye

31-01-2018, 18:08

Not moving too freely in this video IMO.

https://www.facebook.com/britishtennislta/videos/1860883040591483/

cazza99

31-01-2018, 22:45

Can't believe the rubbers ( or elastics as a contestant on a UK quiz show called them this week :laugh:) .:GBflag:

Wonder where they nickered that idea from.
;)

Maybe they had to stretch their brain to answer it. Hope they did not get hit by the rebound.

Reef

01-02-2018, 07:31

I personally hope Kyle doesn't risk his health by playing if he's still not fit...

suttontennis

01-02-2018, 08:15

If Kyle isnt 100% then he shouldnt risk playing in the first round. IF needed, he could play one of the reverse singles. But thats unlikely. No point in ruining all the hard work in Melbourne by being injured for 3 months

Silverdee

01-02-2018, 09:03

Apparently the decision whether Kyle is fit to play will be made tomorrow - but they say they are pleased with his progress. Tennisfan heard this on the news this morning.

Hawkeye

01-02-2018, 11:56

Without him, it's 4-1 Spain at best, with him we might squeeze a 3-2 GB.

How much do we really need to win this tie?

Caro

01-02-2018, 12:38

Without him, it's 4-1 Spain at best, with him we might squeeze a 3-2 GB.

How much do we really need to win this tie?

Well it would be nice to be guaranteed a world group spot next year, otherwise we'll be in a world group play off in Sept

greatunclebulgaria

01-02-2018, 12:39

Draw is in - no Kyle

World Group First Round: Spain v Great Britain

It's the first meeting between Great Britain and Spain in over 30 years in the Davis Cup! Here's how they line up:

Friday
Albert Ramos-Vinolas (SPN) v Liam Broady (GBR)
Roberto Bautista-Agut (SPN) v Cameron Norrie (GBR)

Saturday
Pablo Carreno Busta/Feliciano Lopez (SPN) v Dominic Inglot/Jamie Murray (GBR)

Sunday
Albert Ramos-Vinolas (SPN) v Cameron Norrie (GBR)
Roberto Bautista-Agut (SPN) v Liam Broady (GBR)

Gonna need Andy and Kyle in September I would say

RosieBear

01-02-2018, 12:39

Well it would be nice to be guaranteed a world group spot next year, otherwise we'll be in a world group play off in Sept

Andy will be back (stronger than ever) by then. Easy, easy !!! :superman::GBflag:

Sad for Kyle and us that he has to miss this one, but correct decision imo - silly to potentially jeopardise rest of his season. Quite fancy a Sept play-off anyway, GB will have it large ! :GBflag:

Caro

01-02-2018, 12:51

Ouch, poor Kyle :crying: He'll be gutted! Virtually nil chance of getting through this tie now barring extraordinary circumstances. Those there will still have a blast though and we'll all be starting to work out who we might meet in Sept :)

lovetennis

01-02-2018, 13:05

I think Leon can changed the named player up to an hour before play starts but it's not likely I suppose. Sure the newbies will give it their all and nothing is impossible, but yeah a Sept play-off looks the most likely outcome

JAMES4578

01-02-2018, 13:08

Disappointing and I'm sure frustrating for Kyle as much as or more than anyone, however sure he's taken right decision in circumstances and his long term prospects more important. Certainly chances look very slim, however hopefully Cameron and Liam benefit from the experience and Jamie/Dom perform well. Hopefully all those going still have a great time, sure you'll make the most of it!

Rosalind

01-02-2018, 13:29

we are scuppered. but what's to be done. Enjoy everyone going. I know you will still have a wonderful time. :wino: :GBflag::thumbup:

Jan62

01-02-2018, 13:48

We will be undeterred and shout just as loud for all the team. Spain on clay in Spain was always going to be a big task, especially without Andy. But a September play off with Andy back in the team (I hope) will do, provided its easy to get to. Vamos....

exislander

01-02-2018, 14:39

Yes, sad that Kyle is not ready to play but it is good to give the other two an opportunity to play this time. I think both Liam and Cameron have been in attendance at previous ties so will know what to expect regarding atmosphere and noisy support. Hopefully both will do themselves justice and play well. They will have our support win or lose.

Julie80

01-02-2018, 15:33

https://twitter.com/daviscup/status/959079477790863360?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc% 5Eios%7Ctwgr%5Ecom.apple.UIKit.activity.Message%7C twcon%5E7100%7Ctwterm%5E0

Looks like Kyle is definitely out for Friday but still a chance could make an appearance on Sunday.

Reef

01-02-2018, 17:03

Glad that Liam and Cameron are getting a chance to see what they're made of in a tye that was always going to be awkward from a GB perspective.

WimbledonWestie

01-02-2018, 19:30

. Quite fancy a Sept play-off anyway, GB will have it large ! :GBflag:

Just what I'm thinking. Every cloud and all that ....

cazza99

01-02-2018, 20:09

https://www.daviscup.com/en/draws-results/tie.aspx?id=M-DC-2018-WG-M-GBR-ESP-01

Starts at 10.00 am UK time.

RosieBear

02-02-2018, 10:01

Eeep, Cam hasn't played on clay for 5 years, and Liam for 3 - the tie couldn't be more David and Goliath. Never mind, just give it your best shot guys, all anyone can ask. Let's go GB, let's go! :GBflag::GBflag::GBflag::GBflag:

Hawkeye

02-02-2018, 10:09

The tie hasn't ignited the interest of the Spanish fans by the looks of things.

Hawkeye

02-02-2018, 10:10

Nervy start from Liam, DF.

Rosalind

02-02-2018, 10:13

GB fans are brilliant! Far louder than Spanish.

RosieBear

02-02-2018, 10:15

Well done Liam, getting tactics spot on, s&v to try and avoid the Spanish grind :thumbup:

Jane

02-02-2018, 10:16

Finding this difficult viewing with those shadows.

Hawkeye

02-02-2018, 10:28

ARV breaks in game 3.

Jane

02-02-2018, 10:32

2 - 2

RosieBear

02-02-2018, 10:33

Yay! Liam breaks back, well done lad. 4 games in 24 mins, exhausting.

RosieBear

02-02-2018, 10:35

Lovely volley spinning away, well done Liam - keep going!

RosieBear

02-02-2018, 10:52

First set Spain 6-3. Liam doing well but being worn down, few too many UEs by trying to end the gruelling rally early. C'mon GB!

Jane

02-02-2018, 10:54

:sad:

Come on GB:thumbup::thumbup::GBflag::GBflag:

JAMES4578

02-02-2018, 10:56

Certainly Liam gave good account in that opening set though error count began to creep up , Ramos Vinolas was able to step up at right time with solid game.

Jane

02-02-2018, 11:09

Just spotted the on-court Rolex clock which says 13.07pm Surely that should be 12.07??

patlowe

02-02-2018, 11:10

Supporters take a bow. You are doing a fantastic job. :GBflag: Even Lloyd is impressed. Has mentioned you many times. And Liam is trying his best. Big ask for him.

Rosalind

02-02-2018, 11:13

Supporters take a bow. You are doing a fantastic job. :GBflag: Even Lloyd is impressed. Has mentioned you many times. And Liam is trying his best. Big ask for him.

Yes, you are right Lloydy was impressed. I'm not so impressed with him now though. Miserable and moaning now from Lloydy! Imagine him as DC captain when you were losing. :tennis: