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be interesting to see if the spl clubs live up to their long spouted belief that the old firm have a negative effect on the SPL or wether they will back the cheat charter and go chasing the money as per usual
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/17681268
rugby union? Good old BBC.
Fingers crossed for the four cup underdogs this weekend.
Everton because Moyes deserves it and current form too
Spurs because they're playing Chelsea
Hearts obviously
Don't really care about Aberdeen/Hibs but would be nice to beat the unwashed in the final.
MurrayAOne
14-04-2012, 12:56
Come on Liverpool.
J will be pleased. Although he keeps it hidden, he's a massive Andy Carroll fan!
J will be pleased. Although he keeps it hidden, he's a massive Andy Carroll fan!i doubt even Mr & Mrs Carroll would describe them self's as massive Andy Carroll fans!
Maza1987
14-04-2012, 18:57
king kenny--manager of the year.
king kenny--manager of the year.:rolling: nice to see at least one scouser retaining= a sense of humour
DaveArneRiise
14-04-2012, 21:11
LOLverpool...
You were saying. :D
I was saying that goal was hilarious. Defy you to argue.
DaveArneRiise
14-04-2012, 21:38
Forgotten now. Another final at Wembley! :cheer:
2 cup finals, maybe 2 victories is a great achievement, but with the money FSG/Kenny have spent can you honestly say you're happy with the performances or league position?
DaveArneRiise
15-04-2012, 00:11
2 cup finals, maybe 2 victories is a great achievement, but with the money FSG/Kenny have spent can you honestly say you're happy with the performances or league position?
No not happy with the league position at all. We should be doing better, it needs to be said though that we weren't expected to finish in the top 4 this season anyways, that's the problem football fans these days they demand instant success and have short memories. It wasn't long ago when we were in meltdown behind the scenes under Hicks and Gillet and doing appallingly under Hodgeson. This season the signs are there that progress is being made. It's not as if we are playing poor either, in numerous matches this season we have dominated the game but just failed to take our chances.
Anyways potentially double cup victory is some consolation. Brilliant achievement if we were to win the FA Cup. No mean feat, so like I said improvement is being made. Success in the league won't happen overnight but it looks as if this season could mark the foundation of a successful tenure under Kenny.
People also always say spent all that money, most of it we gained from the Torres transfer anyways. Our net spending fee under Kenny is only a few million.
Delighted for Carroll today by the way, I've had faith in him from the start. Recently he's shown just what he can do and he's starting to start a lot more games too which is good. Actually part of the problem was Kenny's treatment of him IMO, dropping after he scores in a game etc, never really giving him a consistent run out in the team. Delighted for him today though.
Still have a lot of question marks over Downing, disappointing signing for me. Massive let down.
Bellamy on a free was an exceptional buy though and he yet again this season played a decisive role in a massive win for us!
Downing and Henderson both have a lot to prove. Lucas' injury was massive this season. Carra has been a great player, but his lack of pace is starting to cost a lot!
Happy days. Never a penalty but Hooper was offside so these things equal themselves out. Anyone lipread what the ginger thug was saying to Mr Norris after the final whistle?
Craig Beattie looking more and more like the signing of the season. Always liked him at Celtic and been surprised at his lack of progress since.
Happy days. Never a penalty but Hooper was offside so these things equal themselves out. Anyone lipread what the ginger thug was saying to Mr Norris after the final whistle?
Craig Beattie looking more and more like the signing of the season. Always liked him at Celtic and been surprised at his lack of progress since.hmm where the tipping point is, is a matter of perspective with my green tinted specs on you never see those hand balls given where as the offside are always up for debate. btw black should have been gone for his assault on ledley
summit we agree on is beattie he is a cracking player
I would say if you're going to block with your arms out then you always take the risk of conceding.
Again a matter of perspective, I didn't think Black's challenge was any worse than Mulgrew's leading up to it. Both yellows was right.
not a red? ;)
https://p.twimg.com/AqiFcXFCAAAdBLg.jpg (http://twitter.com/RubyMayRidgeway/status/191549706437001216/photo/1/large) (http://twitter.com/RubyMayRidgeway/status/191549706437001216/photo/1/large)
Looks worse there than from any angle I saw on telly. From that you're probably right but it was mistimed rather than malicious.
Lennon showed his lack of class again today. Embarrassing for Celtic IMO.
DaveArneRiise
15-04-2012, 20:52
Liverpool Chelsea FA Cup final, the big boys!!!!!
Once again, unfortunately, a poor decision is all that will be talked about.
DaveArneRiise
15-04-2012, 20:54
Refs and officials alike have been dreadful this season. Also in Man U game another dive from Young gets Man U their token penalty. That's twice in 2 weeks Young has dived. No one will say anything though because he plays for Man Utd, and media is afraid of Fergie. Imagine if it was Suarez the pitchforks would be out!
DaveArneRiise
15-04-2012, 21:08
Just read Chelsea fans disrespected the minutes silence for Hillsborough. Awful behaviour that, they should be ashamed of themselves. 96 people lost their lives I mean christ
Lennon showed his lack of class again today. Embarrassing for Celtic IMO.
If Lennon wants the SFA to show consistency, then he has to expect to have the book thrown at him.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17733762
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17733762just listing to that, will these people stop at nothing to save cheats FC
Lennon showed his lack of class again today. Embarrassing for Celtic IMO.Jst curious but was oor current Scotland manager showing a lack of class when he blew up on tv couple years back when your lot lost to "them(IA)"?
Did he run on to the park and accost the ref? Did he use social media to accuse a referee of a personal attack? No, he responded to questioning from the media. Which Mr. Lennon singularly refused to do. And Levein had far more provocation.
he ran on the park ? same as Stephen Presley did in league cup semi ,don't recount any mass media uproar regarding that ?
so saying on twitter ts personal is wrong but saying a ref set outwith the sole intention of letting your opponents win on national TV is fine ?
provocation ? that's ok then not like lennon had any cause to be annoyed
same auld same auld, as soon as all managers are subjected to the same standards as NL,then il believe its not claptrap
I see the Blue Knights have used the good old tried and trusted "rhythm method" of takeover bids and pulled out at the point of liquidation
DaveArneRiise
16-04-2012, 21:04
Neil Lennon is no victim, talking about the man here who was subjected to death threats whilst a player and manager. Horrific vile abuse sometimes religious induced.... assaulted by a hearts fan.... a lesser man would have walked years ago but Lennon has not.
Neil Lennon is no victim, talking about the man here who was subjected to death threats whilst a player and manager. Horrific vile abuse sometimes religious induced.... assaulted by a hearts fan.... a lesser man would have walked years ago but Lennon has not.
None of what Lennon has been subjected to is right, but nor does it give him the right to speak to a match official in the way that he did.
DaveArneRiise
16-04-2012, 21:39
None of what Lennon has been subjected to is right, but nor does it give him the right to speak to a match official in the way that he did.
Manager in getting angry at official fancy that.
I mean cmon almost every manager out there is a **** to officials. Most of the time it's justified too :)
As long as its Pat Fenlon moaning to the referee on May 19th i'll be delighted. Reckon it could be quite one-sided.
DaveArneRiise
16-04-2012, 21:44
Not so sure about that AllyB, one off game league form over past season goes out the window. Hibs are a better team than their league position suggests. Wouldn't surprise me if the won.
I think it will be a high scoring game!
Stack will be a big miss for them.
david1610
19-04-2012, 10:17
Very good team performance by Chelsea last night to contain Barcelona, though Barcelona should have put away some of their chances. Still likely to lose away but at least they have kept interest in the tie alive!
DaveArneRiise
19-04-2012, 10:42
Well done Chelsea, got lucky, but you need a bit of luck to beat a team like Barca. Defended superbly and got a goal on the break.... clean sheet job done. In with a chance for the return leg, will take a hell of an effort mind.
I'm thinking of putting together a bid for Rangers.
Anyone fancy buying a Kirk Broadfoot? Ideal for scaring burglars.
you found some lose change down the back of your sofa
10p to go with the quid the tooth fairy left my wee one last night. Can't see wee Craig turning down a 10% return on his investment.
throw in a coupe ginga bottles and you will get definitely preferred bidders status
If i get them i'm going to sell their SPL place to the Talbot.
If i get them i'm going to sell their SPL place to the Talbot.can i have the gates, they will look good oot side my hoose
Nae probs, got a few pallets of turf going spare if anyone's interested
couldn't you just graze some sheep on it, after all there has been **** on that pitch for years ;)
Might be an idea. The Aberdeen game would be interesting!
DaveArneRiise
22-04-2012, 14:33
Wow teenager Tony Watt scores twice in the space of 5 minutes after coming on as a sub for Celtic on his debut. Amazing!
Wow teenager Tony Watt scores twice in the space of 5 minutes after coming on as a sub for Celtic on his debut. Amazing!think vixs & hawkeye should bung him a little brown envelope just did them a massive favor
DaveArneRiise
22-04-2012, 14:58
So whoever finishes 3rd will get last CL spot?
So whoever finishes 3rd will get last CL spot?yes, unless somehow rangers "friends" at the SFA tear up the rulebook completely
Always thought that Roy Hodgson would get results at Anfield.;)
Rangers barred from signing any players for a year by the looks of it and fined £160,000 http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2553&newsCategoryID=1&newsID=9718
Only the start of their punishment I hope, scandalous otherwise.
Only the start of their punishment I hope, scandalous otherwise.ye this is just relating to the sale of club to Graig wyite,
No it isn't, have you read the full transcript?
only quickly
just read it now
It makes no sense. Not proven under rule 1. Guilty under rule 2, which pertains to the breaking of rule 1.
dose that not mean they allowed someone at the club(GW?)to break article 1,
Well that's how I read it, but if the charge is found not proven, how can they say that rule 2 has been broken?
D&P not happy about the transfer embargo.
Well that's how I read it, but if the charge is found not proven, how can they say that rule 2 has been broken?
D&P not happy about the transfer embargo.good
D&P not happy about something that extends the length of the administration? Thinking one thing, saying another as far as I can see. They'll end up the only winners in this.
D&P not happy about something that extends the length of the administration? Thinking one thing, saying another as far as I can see. They'll end up the only winners in this.what you talking about everyone's a winner, with the exception of ra peeple
Can't understand the "anti-Rangers" hysteria. Surely we will only know if they're biased if/when Celtic ever end up in administration after nearly 20 years of corporate fraud!
Having said that the SFA are setting some horrendous precedents for when Mad Vlad gets fed up at Tynie and dumps us in it.
david1610
24-04-2012, 20:43
What a result for Chelsea! With 10 men. Sometimes it seems to be written in the stars!
And at least if the final goes to penalties, JT won't miss!
From BBC live coverage
Chelsea skipper John Terry on his red card which will rule him out of the Champions League final: "It does look bad on the replay. I raised my knee but hopefully the people out there who know me, know I'm not that kind of player.
"I feel as though I let them (team-mates) down. I have apologised to them and I apologise to the Chelsea fans. At the time I was bewildered, But looking at the replay it looks a red card. On a personal note, of course (it hurts I miss the final). But we deserve to be in the Champions League final. I really hope that doesn't take away from this win."
:rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::roll ing:
Obviously draws the line at racism and doing his mate's missus!
DaveArneRiise
24-04-2012, 22:41
Congratulations Chelsea. Great effort that well done.
david1610
24-04-2012, 22:50
If Real Madrid get through bit of a Mourinho-fest - the Chelsea is still at heart a Mourinho creation!
Gawd I had to watch this and do a remedial match reporting class because it's so different to normal reporting practice.
So we went to journo school again yesterday evening and sat in the sports agency office with the tutor walking round and telling us what we need to put I'm.
When the second Barca goal came in all but one of us assumed it was Messi who scored so when we filed the half time report 5 mins after it finished we all "failed"!!!
Then we watched the 2nd half and all fell about laughing at the sudden panning to see Torres out all on his own!
I was sat in between a massive Chelsea fan and a massive Chelsea hater!!!!
Good session though we missed all the interviews as again we had 5 mins to file and the tutor turned off the TV and then ran through some last minute tips before we all basically ran out the door.
So its Bayern v Chelsea in the final. Didn't realise until today that if Chelsea win and below fourth in the PL, the team in fourth (currently NUFC) only get Europa League.
DaveArneRiise
25-04-2012, 22:59
So its Bayern v Chelsea in the final. Didn't realise until today that if Chelsea win and below fourth in the PL, the team in fourth (currently NUFC) only get Europa League.
When Liverpool won it in 05 they actually finished 5th in league with Everton in 4th. Subsequently Everton had their CL place annulled and Liverpool were entered. So yea same thing could happen this year albeit different sides, but it makes sense. Would be ridiculous if the defending champions couldn't defend the trophy!
david1610
25-04-2012, 23:27
When Liverpool won it in 05 they actually finished 5th in league with Everton in 4th. Subsequently Everton had their CL place annulled and Liverpool were entered. So yea same thing could happen this year albeit different sides, but it makes sense. Would be ridiculous if the defending champions couldn't defend the trophy!
I agree but space should be left in the draw for the winners without taking a place away from another national side.
I once looked at the complete "ranking" system for when teams entered the competition and it is a bit like the tennis ranking system in that the big "18" (give or take a bad year by the "last" Spanish/English/Italian side) tend to mainly be the ones in the last sixteen!
When Liverpool won it in 05 they actually finished 5th in league with Everton in 4th. Subsequently Everton had their CL place annulled and Liverpool were entered. So yea same thing could happen this year albeit different sides, but it makes sense. Would be ridiculous if the defending champions couldn't defend the trophy!
In 2005-06, Liverpool actually entered through the CL qualifying rounds as an extra (5th) English entry. I do now recall discussions at the time saying that in future the 4th placed team would lose their place.
I understand the commercial side of UEFA wanting all the big teams in there but calling it the Champions League is a farce. As an example, how is it fair that Arsenal who haven't won anything for years look likely to get straight into the group stages whereas Celtic, the Scottish champions, have to got through 2 qualifying rounds?
Just checked this years stats - 5 of the last 16, 3 of the last 8, 1 of the last 4 and 0 of the finalists were champions of their league last year.
Champions League = League for Champions (of what? answers on a postcard to usual address ...)
lankster2003
26-04-2012, 18:33
In 2005-06, Liverpool actually entered through the CL qualifying rounds as an extra (5th) English entry. I do now recall discussions at the time saying that in future the 4th placed team would lose their place.
I understand the commercial side of UEFA wanting all the big teams in there but calling it the Champions League is a farce. As an example, how is it fair that Arsenal who haven't won anything for years look likely to get straight into the group stages whereas Celtic, the Scottish champions, have to got through 2 qualifying rounds?
Just checked this years stats - 5 of the last 16, 3 of the last 8, 1 of the last 4 and 0 of the finalists were champions of their league last year.
Champions League = League for Champions (of what? answers on a postcard to usual address ...)
Money talks, just that simple!
lankster2003
26-04-2012, 18:34
From BBC live coverage
:rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::roll ing:
Obviously draws the line at racism and doing his mate's missus!
I literally just burst out laughing reading that comment Ally. BRILLIANT!!!!!!
On the radio this morning, after telling us about how Andy was doing in Barcelona, the presenter said: "Are you a fan of Jersey Marina?" :confused: As I was just driving into Chichester Marina (where I work), I wondered whether this is some sailing event in the Channel Isles that I don't know about? However he went on to say: "You should have seen his face when his team lost" and the penny dropped. :lol:
what i find abhorrent is any team finishing third in the EPL would be seeded higher no matter their previous track record , so a team like WBA Who have never played in Europe are better ranked than us with oor proven track record
MurrayAOne
28-04-2012, 17:02
Come on you reeeeeeds! 2-0 up!!! Come oooooon!
MurrayAOne
28-04-2012, 18:13
How good was that?!!!!!!!!!!!! 3 - 0!!!!
Any predictions for the last ever Old Firm game today?
Any predictions for the last ever Old Firm game today?the good guys will be celebrating with jelly n ice cream, while the axis of evil show their defiance with a rendition of their favorite party tunes after all they have nothing to lose
as for the footy think we are motivated to win it this time round i see a pumpfest :)
Well,it was nice while it lasted.125 years have passed of old firm derbies and its all come to an end.rangers till July
You seriously believe that?
You seriously believe that?ithink there is no where for R1872 to go but liquidation, however don't doubt newco will be invited straight back into the SPL ....WE will see what happens all the diddy clubs have spent a lifetime moaning about OF, we will find out soon enough where their priorities lie i suspect the prospect of losing sky deal will see most of them bottle it
You seriously believe that?btw united been through a couple reincarnations do yous consider yourelves to be the same team? genuinely curious
All of the history books say so, who am I to argue? The team I support are the same one that have been around since I was 5, that's good enough for me.
Re the newco, I agree that Rangers will be back next year, but I think that clubs will see fans voting with their feet.
Can it still be the Old Firm if its a Newco?
Agree regarding the likelihood of them getting to stay in the SPL but hope the other clubs use it as a lever to get the voting rules changed from 11-1 to 9-3 or better.
can it still be the old firm if its a newco?nope
FA wants talks with Roy Hodgson over England role (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17888928) :rolling::rolling:
The FA come in for a lot of stick, but at least we know they have a sense of humour
have the posts decrying Sir fergie & mancini having a spat been removed:confused:, i thought there would be loads of comments as some folk cant wait to spew forth there claptrap when certain other managers so much as breath
By the time we got back from journo school last night we missed the whole thing!
I saw a bit of a replay on sky's coverage but not much!
Damn reporting mock on a monday night. GAH!
have the posts decrying Sir fergie & mancini having a spat been removed:confused:, i thought there would be loads of comments as some folk cant wait to spew forth there claptrap when certain other managers so much as breath
Didn't see the match and haven't seen highlights so can't comment.
I assume they both shouted and ranted like rabid dogs when you're making comparisons?
Bill Miller gets preferred bidder status.
His "leave Jaydu with the bad bits, make Jacobite the new bit and merge them into -J-" style proposal will be interesting to say the least.
Bill Miller gets preferred bidder status.
His "leave Jaydu with the bad bits, make Jacobite the new bit and merge them into -J-" style proposal will be interesting to say the least.:rolling: keeping up
And just as unpleasant... :P
the whole thing stinks, who exactly took the decision to assure newco they will be in the SPL next term
If they have its hardly a surprise, but do we actually know that they have given assurances?
Besides, there is no guarantee that the oldco will be able to agree a CVA, in which case I would imagine the rules change again.
doncaster seems to think so,
Besides, there is no guarantee that the oldco will be able to agree a CVA, in which case I would imagine the rules change again.think they are hoping by the time that happens the new season will have started and they will allow newco just to carry on regardless
wish i had a mortgage i would be tempted to sell the house to the mrs for a £1 then default the payments just to see what happens
MurrayAOne
05-05-2012, 09:07
Good luck to my team today! Go Liverpool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Scandalous that the showcase event of English Football is being held before the season is over, irrespective of what the reasons for doing so are.
MurrayAOne
05-05-2012, 16:20
Come on you reeeeeeeds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yessssssssssssss............Come on Liverpool!!!!!!!
MurrayAOne
05-05-2012, 17:40
Come ooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!!!! Go Liverpool!!!!!!!!!!
Liverpool paid the price for not turning up first half.
MurrayAOne
05-05-2012, 19:06
Hard luck Liverpool. Proud of the way my team fought back.
DaveArneRiise
06-05-2012, 17:12
Liverpool paid the price for not turning up first half.
Pretty much this. Was at the match and the no show in the first half cost us. Congratulations Chelsea.
Sallydaisy
08-05-2012, 16:03
There'll be peeps who understand this better than I.
" @Record_Sport (https://twitter.com/#%21/Record_Sport)
Breaking news: Bill Miller has withdrawn from bidding process for Rangers FC. More as we get it."
MurrayAOne
08-05-2012, 19:05
Come on Liverpool!!!
MurrayAOne
08-05-2012, 19:20
Yeeeeees! Come ooooooon!!!!!!!!!! 1 - 0!!!
MurrayAOne
08-05-2012, 19:43
3 - 0 Keep it up boys!!!
MurrayAOne
08-05-2012, 21:17
Well played Liverpool and well said Kenny!!!
DaveArneRiise
09-05-2012, 09:01
Good win, can't let it paper over the cracks though. Measures need to taken to improve our league form next season, that's pivotal.
I believe with Kenny though we have a bright future.
MurrayAOne
09-05-2012, 16:13
Phew! I'm glad you added the last bit! :)
I know the administrators have to do their best for the creditors but Charles Green seems a bit of a dangerous choice for the Gers. Imagine the irony of history showing that the last owners of Rangers1872 were Green and Whyte.
Can anyone explain to me how any bidder can be confident of a CVA when the exact amount of the tax liability still hasn't been announced? Had also heard that HMRC only do deals where it is non-payment that is the problem, but not where a company has beend found guilty of tax evasion.
DaveArneRiise
13-05-2012, 16:09
City champs!
VamosVixs
13-05-2012, 16:12
Amazing end to the season!! :clap::clap::clap:
I turned over to Man U in added time as I was sure they had won it, but I missed 2 goals! :doh::rolling:
Sallydaisy
13-05-2012, 16:15
I turned over to Man U in added time as I was sure they had won it, but I missed 2 goals! :doh::rolling:
It's probably already on YouTube!
;)
Overall, City probably deserved to win it, although I find it hard to back a club that totally buys their way to success.
DaveArneRiise
16-05-2012, 19:45
Kenny Dalglish has been sacked as Liverpool manager. Welcome to modern day football folks :rolleyes:
Maza1987
16-05-2012, 20:26
Still love the king.
But not too surprised his time came to an end.
For a replacement, I would like someone like Rikkard, pep (won't happen) or the return of Rafa. Don't really want someone like roberto martinez or brendan rodgers.
The return of Rafa? Can't believe how many Liverpool fans seem to be saying that. He was tactically clueless towards the end of his reign.
Having said that I'm not sure who i would pick!
MurrayAOne
16-05-2012, 21:06
Sad day for my team. Will always support King Kenny. Deserved better treatment.
If anyone else had spent the same money Kenny did and had the same results, would you be backing him?
MurrayAOne
16-05-2012, 21:22
I'm talking about caring for a team with a passion. The anyone else wouldn't have that. All about money in football now. Short patience span. No time for heart and commitment.
DaveArneRiise
16-05-2012, 21:42
If anyone else had spent the same money Kenny did and had the same results, would you be backing him?
Valid point but considering the depths of despair we were in before Kenny took over we have undoubtedly progressed. Many LFC fans supported a long term project with Kenny at the helm, Kenny building a foundation for success to be built upon, We saw glimpses of that last season, with a trophy and consecutive Wembley appearances.
This is modern day football though and the owners are cowboys who come in and expect instant success. Be rest assured that if Chelsea don't win the CL Di Matteo won't be offered the job. If Citeh hadn't won the title Mancini would have been sacked. Gone are the days of long term projects and building a long term succesfull team. If Ferguson started at Man U this century he would have been sacked years ago.
Passion is all very well and I am a massive Kenny fan, but the fact is that Liverpool have massively underperformed this year considering the investment that has been made.
In the 70s/80s/90s era, I think Carra as player-manager woulld have been worth a punt but you're quite right - money is the boss now.
Valid point but considering the depths of despair we were in before Kenny took over we have undoubtedly progressed. Many LFC fans supported a long term project with Kenny at the helm, Kenny building a foundation for success to be built upon, We saw glimpses of that last season, with a trophy and consecutive Wembley appearances.
This is modern day football though and the owners are cowboys who come in and expect instant success. Be rest assured that if Chelsea don't win the CL Di Matteo won't be offered the job. If Citeh hadn't won the title Mancini would have been sacked. Gone are the days of long term projects and building a long term succesfull team. If Ferguson started at Man U this century he would have been sacked years ago.those cowboys saved your club, you where hrs from admin;)
DaveArneRiise
16-05-2012, 21:56
those cowboys saved your club, you where hrs from admin;)
I was referring to owners in modern day football in general smartarse
btw Rangers appeal over transfer embargo rejected.if any one cares
I was referring to owners in modern day football in general smartarsepoint still stands those cowboys saved yur club
btw Rangers appeal over transfer embargo rejected.if any one caresI care! A course of innoculations and then a trip to the Rangersmedia forum may be on the cards...
MurrayAOne
16-05-2012, 22:44
point still stands those cowboys saved yur club
Only as a commodity. Heart and commitment sidelined. All about results with no room for error. Sad.
Only as a commodity. Heart and commitment sidelined. All about results with no room for error. Sad.totally agree with you, cant believe they arnt satisfied with being the eight best club in England :p
MurrayAOne
16-05-2012, 23:24
totally agree with you, cant believe they arnt satisfied with being the eight best club in England :p
That's the room for error.
DaveArneRiise
17-05-2012, 13:11
point still stands those cowboys saved yur club
Wouldn't have been necessary if the other cowboys hadn't run the club into the ground before. Anyways you missed the point, foreign owners are like bulls these days, no success in the short term then you're cut. What ever happened to building a successful team over a long period of time?
DaveArneRiise
17-05-2012, 13:14
totally agree with you, cant believe they arnt satisfied with being the eight best club in England :p
Quick fixing isn't going to solve it, problem will still be there. These foreign owners expect that quick pill to fix everything, doesn't work like that. The signs were there of a foundation being built to lay success upon under Kenny.
Quick fixing isn't going to solve it, problem will still be there. These foreign owners expect that quick pill to fix everything, doesn't work like that. The signs were there of a foundation being built to lay success upon under Kenny.how where there signs? they won the reserve cup and ok they fared better than the other small club that won it last year then got relegated, but i think they simple have to reconcile they are no longer a major force
Quick fixing isn't going to solve it, problem will still be there. These foreign owners expect that quick pill to fix everything, doesn't work like that. The signs were there of a foundation being built to lay success upon under Kenny.
While I see your point Dave, spending £80m(ish) on 4 players was always going to up the pressure for quick results. Adam and Downing have both pretty much failed to live up to past form. Henderson and Carroll were starting to show some sort of form towards the end of the season and I think they'll both come good in the long run.
oh well off to stornoway
hope andy takes the third then i can actually watch a whole match tomorrow
MurrayAOne
17-05-2012, 20:53
Wouldn't have been necessary if the other cowboys hadn't run the club into the ground before. Anyways you missed the point, foreign owners are like bulls these days, no success in the short term then you're cut. What ever happened to building a successful team over a long period of time?
Exactly!
MurrayAOne
17-05-2012, 20:54
While I see your point Dave, spending £80m(ish) on 4 players was always going to up the pressure for quick results. Adam and Downing have both pretty much failed to live up to past form. Henderson and Carroll were starting to show some sort of form towards the end of the season and I think they'll both come good in the long run.
That's the problem. No long runs - only sprints.
MurrayAOne
17-05-2012, 20:57
how where there signs? they won the reserve cup and ok they fared better than the other small club that won it last year then got relegated, but i think they simple have to reconcile they are no longer a major force
Why? Finish eighth in the league, win the Carling cup and runner up in the FA cup but then think 'Ah no we might as well accept we're not a major force'. Why would they, we, do that?
DaveArneRiise
17-05-2012, 22:38
how where there signs? they won the reserve cup and ok they fared better than the other small club that won it last year then got relegated, but i think they simple have to reconcile they are no longer a major force
Who'se saying we are a major force? Have I mentioned that before or is this you pulling things from the air again to suit your own bitter agenda?
Consecutive posts aren't allowed :big grin:
Consecutive posts aren't allowed :big grin:
I would refer the honourable member to the precedent set in posts 534-5, 543-4 and 547-8 in the ATP Bracket Challenge thread.
any links or bbc coverage ?
Live on BBC1 Scotland and the BBC Sport website.
Live on BBC1 Scotland and the BBC Sport website.cannot find a link on te bbc website
Hmm. neither can I, sorry!
Poor defending for the goal.
Hmm. neither can I, sorry!
Poor defending for the goal.got a sky stream
ye defender on post had a mare
could have done with black getting his red card early to even things oot
looks like Judy at hampden
judy murray @judmoo (https://twitter.com/#%21/judmoo) Green n white heaven at Hampden. R we on our way from misery to happiness ah ha ah ha? Or.....#hibees (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23hibees) http://pic.twitter.com/mzB491hw (http://t.co/mzB491hw)
This one's done already.
Was there ever any doubt?
Not really, but i'm off to watch in comfort!
agreed
second yellow was right though
agreed
second yellow was right thoughye for the tug
killed the game now 4-1
ye for the tug
killed the game now 4-1
Don't know about that. I'm still enjoying it.
p: from a neutral perspective
Only Dumbarton and Queens' Park have waited longer than the Hobos between Scottish Cup wins.
Hearts only need 2 more goals to equal Celtic's 6-1 thrashing of Hibs in 1971.
Roads should be quiet by the time the Hearts fans are heading home.
The right team won it albeit helped by a well-timed dodgy penalty. Think we missed a chance to put 7 or 8 past them though - took the feet off the gas.
no doubt you deserved it, could have got interesting if hibs had gotten into in the 2nd half
This was a booking which led to him being sent off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G6m2tjxMhE (http://t.co/AnCxvrjc) This wasn't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLdblNTbTEg (http://t.co/2XKHleJP) Thanks to Amac.
Black's eyes were on the ball and he made contact with the ball - what's your point? And you fail to mention Griffiths leading with his knee on McGowan in the second half.
no point other than to point out black is a thug but we all knew that any how
as for not being intentional stuff n nonsense he extends his elbow into his face
didnt see Griffiths had a very ropey stream 2nd half
Celtic, Kilmarnock & Hearts win all the 3 Scottish honours. Wonder how we'll all survive without Rangers?
Chelsea in anti-football shocker.
no point other than to point out black is a thug but we all knew that any how
as for not being intentional stuff n nonsense he extends his elbow into his face
didnt see Griffiths had a very ropey stream 2nd half
I suspect if anyone other than Black had committed the same foul no-one would have batted an eyelid. His reputation, rightly or wrongly, precedes him.
Chelsea in anti-football shocker.
Indeed.
A win for Chelsea and defensive football.
Happy for all the Chelsea fans, but sad for Tottenham. I really think the winners should get an extra place a la Liverpool in 2005-6.
Chelsea in anti-football shocker.And it works again.
Sallydaisy
19-05-2012, 21:37
And it works again.
Can you let me know the 43 lottery numbers you think would win a.s.a.p?
:p
Blue is the colour! :cheer: :yahoo:
And it works again.
Indeed.
VamosVixs
19-05-2012, 23:30
That was brutal, didn't enjoy it.
bbc one Scotland tonight 8pm reveal who, when and how much rangers(IA) payed out in EBTs and who had side letters
in theory 3-0 defeats for any game any game one of those players played in
fulllist of recipients here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18148818)
DaveArneRiise
23-05-2012, 21:34
bbc one Scotland tonight 8pm reveal who, when and how much rangers(IA) payed out in EBTs and who had side letters
in theory 3-0 defeats for any game any game one of those players played in
fulllist of recipients here (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18148818)
What exactly is the Murray Group Remuneration Trust? Is it legal? Is it legal to be a beneficiary? And what is side letters?
now then
basically playerss got there wages, and then on top of that they where given a "loan" payed into a tax free account
they have been deemed illigal the way rangers used them as the loans payed in where fixed amounts and there fore deemed part of the wage
ie you got 200000 per week normally which was taxed and a further 20000 a week untaxed
rangers are currently appealing the decision but its taking ages for a decision to be taken if upheld they are liable for anything up to 75 mil
(btw arsenal where also found guilty and payed up 40 odd mill with less fuss)
the other issue they have is the side letters , these where given to players as an addition to thier contract stipulating how much they would receive from the trust , the problem is these letters where never given to the sfa as part of the players registration so any player who has one SHOULD be deemed to have been improperly registered the punishment for which is the forfeit of any game they played in
which in thiory means they have just about forfeited every game back to 1992
but the SFA have had the prove for months and have done nothing and wouldn't be surprised if SFA wasnt the final punishment to
very basic summery if you want full details you should check out rangers taxcase (http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/) the guys a genius
smoke & mirrors day today
any guesses ? im going for 21P in the £,
but of course that's without TBTC once that's announced the figure will actually be closer to 3P IN THE £
8.5p in the £.
The CVA will be forced through by TicketUs, and then HMRC will come down with the BTC and be the only creditors.
ticketus cant force it through, HMRC have over 25% at the moment(75% agreement is required)
Not from the last figures I saw.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18248766
Only suspension or expulsion now fit the crime.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-18248766
Only suspension or expulsion now fit the crime.or SFA commit hari kari and take the rest of us with them i would not besurpised if this was the outcome
Significant FIFA story shortly from the BBC's @richard_conway (https://twitter.com/#%21/richard_conway) - across all BBC outlets.
Well, it's against FIFA rules for a club to take it's member association to a civil court. It could mean trouble for all SFA member clubs.
Well, it's against FIFA rules for a club to take it's member association to a civil court. It could mean trouble for all SFA member clubs.thats what i mean, they will never expel them so they either back down and go with slap on the wrist fine or they ignore fifa and take us all down
The European Championships start on Friday. Anyone up for the Fantasy League?
http://en.euro2012fantasy.uefa.com/
That'll be a no then! :)
Decent first game so far, 2 goals, 2 red cards, enjoying it with a Polish beer although I'm not at all biased...
DaveArneRiise
08-06-2012, 21:24
Russians looked impressive.
That'll be a no then! :)
Decent first game so far, 2 goals, 2 red cards, enjoying it with a Polish beer although I'm not at all biased...if you dont mind me asking, have you renewed yur season ticket yet?
traveller7
09-06-2012, 01:13
I didnt watch the game just heard it from downstairs as was watching tennis upstairs.
Will be watching england on monday though!
if you dont mind me asking, have you renewed yur season ticket yet?Not only have I already renewed for next season, I'm already signed up for season 2013-14. At the end of the day I'm a Dundee United supporter and I'll watch them regardless of what goes on everywhere else. There are plenty of United fans on the forum I help run that are holding off though, and are talking seriously about giving up on the game altogether if a Rangers newco is voted straight into the SPL.
Someone in Paris for RG has posted about football hooligans today who were drunk and disorderly by mid-morning - they were wearing black and red - any idea which team's supporters they are?
dewster99
09-06-2012, 18:18
poland, russia and the czechs all play in red but no black in there. Not really a country in the euros with black in there flag but russia won 4-1 last night so maybe them
VamosVixs
09-06-2012, 18:41
if you dont mind me asking, have you renewed yur season ticket yet?
Not only have I already renewed for next season, I'm already signed up for season 2013-14. At the end of the day I'm a Dundee United supporter and I'll watch them regardless of what goes on everywhere else.
Me too as not renewing would only hurt our own club. http://www.eastfootball.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/th_scarf-utd.gif
Not only have I already renewed for next season, I'm already signed up for season 2013-14. At the end of the day I'm a Dundee United supporter and I'll watch them regardless of what goes on everywhere else. There are plenty of United fans on the forum I help run that are holding off though, and are talking seriously about giving up on the game altogether if a Rangers newco is voted straight into the SPL.
Me too as not renewing would only hurt our own club. http://www.eastfootball.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/th_scarf-utd.gif:thanks:
THANKS , WAS JUST CURIOUS, READ SUMMIT SUGGESTING UNITED FANS WHERE WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED?
Not just United fans. The cynics are saying that our Chairman's latest public statement at the launch of our new kit was simply a smokescreen to increase admittedly slow early season ticket sales.
VamosVixs
09-06-2012, 20:15
Season tickets are down this year which is not great news for Houstie's budget. :sad:
looking at the other possibility ;), IF they are demoted to the third division or disappear completely. you think your home gates would go up? especially if you are in contention for the 2nd spot(i know that sounds arrogant but cant think of bettera way of putting it)
VamosVixs
09-06-2012, 20:39
Don't know but if Dundee were to come up then the derbies could be our biggest gate of the season.
Don't know but if Dundee were to come up then the derbies would be our biggest gate of the season.that's all part of the farce, who on earth should take their place when they die. could drag on till just before the league is getting started
DaveArneRiise
09-06-2012, 21:21
Denmark shocked Holland 1-0. Didn't foresee that result. Holland will do very well to escape that group now.
Denmark shocked Holland 1-0. Didn't foresee that result. Holland will do very well to escape that group now.was a shocker, be interesting to see if the same thing will happen as happened in the world cup ie teams that relied on EPL players suffered from lack of form
Thankfully the commentators are unaware that Jelavic played for anyone before Everton,
think i might go cut some peat this evening, stay oot the way;)
DaveArneRiise
11-06-2012, 16:58
was a shocker, be interesting to see if the same thing will happen as happened in the world cup ie teams that relied on EPL players suffered from lack of form
Some of the EPL players have been the players of the tournament so far.
Agger (Liverpool) captain of Denmark was dominant against Holland.
Silva (City) was class against Italy.
Arshavin (Arsenal) was pulling the strings for Russia against the Czechs.
Lescott and Nasri (City) have just scored for France and England respectively.
traveller7
11-06-2012, 17:12
England playing quite well so far against France 1-1 2nd half
RoastLamb
11-06-2012, 17:18
Watcvhing on hd telly and watching Milos' match in Halle at same time on computer. Come on England! And Milos! :cheer:
Some of the EPL players have been the players of the tournament so far.
Agger (Liverpool) captain of Denmark was dominant against Holland.
Silva (City) was class against Italy.
Arshavin (Arsenal) was pulling the strings for Russia against the Czechs.
Lescott and Nasri (City) have just scored for France and England respectively.:rolling: tad early to be handing out player of the tournament accolades
DaveArneRiise
11-06-2012, 20:39
:rolling: tad early to be handing out player of the tournament accolades
Maybe point still stands though. You are quick to slate the Premier League but you should probably remind yourself which team won the Champions league last season. ;)
Maybe point still stands though. You are quick to slate the Premier League but you should probably remind yourself which team won the Champions league last season. ;)5-6 th best team in England if memory serves me right (they should consider a rebranding summit like "big nations runners up cup" or summit)
sill how dose that impact my original question ? was merly wondering if EPL players will under perform on the big stage again, with the possible exception of tevez none of them kicked a ball in south Africa
DaveArneRiise
12-06-2012, 14:00
Yea fair enough.
Is anyone following this this today? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18410999) What exactly does "newco Rangers" mean? And if the SPL clubs vote against it what will that mean for Rangers?
it means rangers 1873 will no longer exist, their will be a new team with some variation of the name but with none of the history no world record titles no wee red stars on the jersey
if they dont get voted in to the spl (i think they will get in), then they have to apply to the SFA to join the third division (there would be a space as someone from the 1st division going into the prem to replace ranger, and someone from the 2nd going up to replace them etc)
this is only one aspect there is still the disrepute charge pending which could see them kicked out of football all together(again i doubt it) and the second contract issue which could see auld rangers loose a number of titles
also a number of Celtic bloggers are convinced greens deal to buy a liquidated ibrox park etc isnt sound and that HMRC could force through a sale of all assets
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DaveArneRiise
12-06-2012, 15:18
No doubt the other clubs will bottle it and vote to keep them in to save their asses.
up till recently i was 100 % convinced they would to, but recently there have been some rumblings from other boards & chairmen so now i have a 10% - 15% hope they may do the right thing
FWIW i think there is a stronger finacial argument for kicking them oot the tv deal is worth buttons and surly having football on a saturday afternoon is bound to draw customers back
Dear oh dear Petr Cech...
dont know why but i cant stop laffing today :rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::rolling::roll ing:
DaveArneRiise
13-06-2012, 06:04
When is the vote due to take place J?
once the newco is formed, which might be a bit more complex than D & P are making out so who knows
Nothing that they or Green has predicted so far has come to pass.
Looks like i have to switch phone provider now
DaveArneRiise
13-06-2012, 17:20
Certainly a dire situation for the Gers. Almost as dire as Wayne Rooney's new haircut. (https://twitter.com/HuffPostUKCom/status/212867769883049984/photo/1)
Just heard the news that Harry Redknapp gone & David Moyes taking over Spurs??
DaveArneRiise
15-06-2012, 09:26
Yea very much a surprise that. Harry did a fantastic job at Spurs, mindless to give him the sack.
Have you seen this J? (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/sky-threat-pull-plug-spl-113142799.html) Surely if that happens then the SPL is royally screwed, and Celtic fans like yourself who have been revelling in Rangers demise are going to have a lot of egg on your face as it pretty much seals your fate too.
Yea very much a surprise that. Harry did a fantastic job at Spurs, mindless to give him the sack.
Have you seen this J? (http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/sky-threat-pull-plug-spl-113142799.html) Surely if that happens then the SPL is royally screwed, and Celtic fans like yourself who have been revelling in Rangers demise are going to have a lot of egg on your face as it pretty much seals your fate too.have i seen it ?, the propagandist who push the agenda of the club formally know as rangers have been pushing that line for months.
sky have said nothing so who know, but even if worse case scenario sky withdraw do you have any idea how much of oor income is generated from the sky deal. il give you a clue not a lot
some of the smaller clubs really on the sky deal far more but even with them there is an argument that a more competitive fight for second place(excuse the assumption) will bring more fands through the turnstiles
if no one offers a tv deal it leaves the clubs open to set up their own tv channel, which was Celtics favored option in the first place
but ultimately money shouldn't even be an issue the cheats have dragged Scottish football to the brink for years and if it means a drop in income for my club i couldn't give two hoots. wipping them of the face of the planet isnt enough of a punishment as far as i am concerned
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