Football Thread

[banskogirl]

Anyone watching the Ukraine v France match? It's just been suspended due to the lightening flashing over the stadium! the camera keeps going off..........

[Hawkeye]

ESPN have lost their EPL rights, so I think they'd step in...

[-J-]

the latest

Sky Help Team ‏@SkyHelpTeam (https://twitter.com/#%21/SkyHelpTeam) @APSaoirse1888 (https://twitter.com/#%21/APSaoirse1888) @Jarvis_KDS (https://twitter.com/#%21/Jarvis_KDS) Hi Guys good news We have no plans to stop covering the Scottish Premier League. Thx Laura

also like this (http://sport.stv.tv/football/clubs/rangers/106461-spl-considering-replacing-rangers-with-team-x-on-201213-fixture-list/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

The Scottish Premier League is considering replacing Rangers with "Team X" when they publish their fixture list for the 2012/13 season.

[Hawkeye]

Team X? Y?

[DaveArneRiise]

Is that an official twitter account J? Seems suspect...

[-J-]

Is that an official twitter account J? Seems suspect...yup, little blue verification tick means its 100%https://twitter.com/#!/SkyHelpTeam
btw nice goal carrol

[DaveArneRiise]

Cheers, good news that then for the other SPL clubs. I really hope Celtic can cope without Rangers mate I really do but I have my doubts.

Yes that was a cracking header from Carroll. That's what he can do. He didn't have the best of the times last season by all means but towards the end of the season you could see glimpses of how lethal he can be when on form.

[-J-]

og?

[-J-]

unmarked, but still took it well

[Hawkeye]

Oh dear, how sad!

[-J-]

stunner!!!

[DaveArneRiise]

That was diabolical defending for Sweden's 2nd goal. Defenders were marking grass... where the hell was "the leader" Terry...

Great strike from Theo! What a game!

[Hawkeye]

Cracking finish from Welbeck.

[-J-]

think he meant it?

[DaveArneRiise]

think he meant it?

Yes absolutely.

[-J-]

watching on the chris moyles commendatory, makes it almost enjoyable

[Hawkeye]

I was as well. Much less annoying. I agree that Welbeck meant that.

[RoastLamb]

:yahoo: for England! Good match, that! :yahoo:

[DaveArneRiise]

Credit to Roy. His subs changed the game. Also starting Carroll paid off.

With Rooney available for the next match I wonder who Roy will drop. He might even leave Rooney on the bench.

I'd replace Young or Milner with Rooney.... start Rooney, Carroll and Welbeck!

[traveller7]

well done England woop woop!

[Maza1987]

great match.
nice to see carroll bang one in.
walcott was immense as well. stevie put in a captain's performance.
bring on ukraine.

[dewster99]

surely gotta go welbeck and rooney next up. Play together all the time and welbeck has been our best player so far in the tournament. Harsh on Carroll after today but it's a good problem to have. Gotta drop milner though he's shocking

[DaveArneRiise]

Yea valid point. Welbeck has been impressive, I'd say Gerrard has been England's best player thus far but I guess that's from a biased view point....LOL

[davech]

I'm not sure I'd say I enjoyed that - some of the football was desperate stuff - but it was worth it to see Welbeck's goal. I just watched it again at full speed and it's just incredible. :worship:

[-J-]

there was talk sky would accept a deal that the rangers(2012) drop down a division for one season, but as the SPL & SFL are separate organizations there was no mechanism to demote them.
abracadabra (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18471197):grrr: :grrr: :grrr:

[-J-]

Greece & czech go through

[DaveArneRiise]

So SPL have omitted Rangers from fixture list. Replacing them with club 12? Who will club 12 be?

[DaveArneRiise]

Premier league fixtures have been released for the new season. Liverpool's first three home games are Man City, Arsenal and Man UTD. Tough start for Rodgers. It's good to play the big guns early on though IMO especially at home. UTD are notorious slow starters and Arsenal were appalling at the beginning of last season.

[dewster99]

flaming 'eck, nice easy start everton away! City start against southampton for crying out loud. Hope ricky lambert rips them apart lol

[Hawkeye]

So SPL have omitted Rangers from fixture list. Replacing them with club 12? Who will club 12 be?We'll know in a fortnight.

[-J-]

We'll know in a fortnight.or not, they might let newco in, then kick them back out further down line. still disrepute charges and EBTS to be sorted yet :eek:

[Hawkeye]

Удачи Україні!

[Sallydaisy]

Удачи Україні!

:rolleyes:

[DaveArneRiise]

I'd like to see England get through and do well in the latter stages.

I fancy them to beat Ukraine tonight. Rooney back will be a boost.

Id play :

Hart

Cole
Lescott
Terry
Johnson

Ox
Parker
Gerrard
Theo

Welbeck
Rooney

Roy's team though will be :

Hart

Cole
Terry
Lescott
Johnson

Young
Parker
Gerrard
Milner

Rooney

Welbeck

[MurrayAOne]

Come on England!!!!!!!!!

[DaveArneRiise]

Rooney has looked very rusty, just missed an absolute sitter.

[MurrayAOne]

Just sorted himself out! Come oooooooooon!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DaveArneRiise]

Great play from Gerrard! Rooney couldn't miss there.

[Hawkeye]

What's the point of the official on the line then? Shocking lack of a decision.

[DaveArneRiise]

What's the point of the official on the line then? Shocking lack of a decision.

Yea it's a joke.

[KnightOwl]

What's the point of the official on the line then? Shocking lack of a decision.

They need Hawkeye ;)

Even at full speed I thought that crossed the line - on the replay there was no question it did!

[Hawkeye]

Unfortunately, I think England are building well enough to beat the Italians.

[davech]

Well, I wasn't really expecting us to win that. I was sure Ukraine would score...

OK, they did score, but hey...

[MurrayAOne]

Great win England!!!

[DaveArneRiise]

Fantastic well don England. Thoroughly deserved. Gerrard was immense again tonight and named MOTM. Been England's best player without a shadow of a doubt this tournament.

Also though Terry was excellent and Ashley Cole is still one of the best left backs in the world.

Great that Rooney nearly got a full game for much needed fitness and got the all important goal in the process.

Well done England!

[dewster99]

great result and even better that sweden won. Karma about the goal line after last world cup although at the end of the game they showed a still and in tennis that'd be given in cos a fraction was still touching the line. If it was the other way round I'd be claiming it though obviously

[Hawkeye]

Great result, agreed, but thoroughly deserved? No.

[DaveArneRiise]

I meant their advance to the quarter finals was thoroughly deserved.

[VamosVixs]

Dundee United have released a statement basically saying that the vote is no to newco!


The Board of Directors of Dundee United are unequivocal in the belief that a form of sporting punishment must form part of the reasoning behind any decision made and, therefore, cannot vote the newco into the SPL. General sporting integrity and, more importantly, the integrity of Scottish football must also play a significant part in the decision making process. It is our belief that any form of sporting punishment must be unambiguous in the message it displays.

[-J-]

[/URL]1)
Hearts become first club to admit they will vote 'no' to newco being allowed in SPL
2)
(https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence)Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence) United say they cannot vote newco into Spl
Retweeted by BBC Sportsound (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcsportsound)


(https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence)[U]3)
Motherwell have announced they will let the Well Society decide whether or not the club should vote in favour of granting newco Rangers entry to the Scottish Premier League.

3 down 2 to go
starting to think it wont even go to a vote

[Hawkeye]

P2baa.

[-J-]

P2baa.vma

[VamosVixs]

Now is the time for people to back the club and buy season tickets!!!

[-J-]

Now is the time for people to back the club and buy season tickets!!!nice piece of people pressure well done:clap::clap:

[Hawkeye]

Perhaps even see a few extra renewing now.

[-J-]

Perhaps even see a few extra renewing now.can they renew if they never had one before ?;)

[-J-]

strong rumour green telling rfff that they are getting 60 point penalty from last year thus relegating them ?

[Hawkeye]

Can't levy that penalty unless they get voted in. And they finished 58 points ahead of Dunfermline last season if you discount the 10 point deduction, so not even 60 points would guarantee that.

[DaveArneRiise]

But if the vote goes against them doesn't that render the point penalty pointless as they would already be omitted for the league/

[-J-]

Can't levy that penalty unless they get voted in. And they finished 58 points ahead of Dunfermline last season if you discount the 10 point deduction, so not even 60 points would guarantee that.true and really ? hadn't realized twas that much
i wont believe anything till the season starts and newco are away to abroath or summit

[-J-]

But if the vote goes against them doesn't that render the point penalty pointless as they would already be omitted for the league/depends on the order, the transfer only applys to the SPL license IF they rangers where to berelegated before the vote there would be no need to transfer the license and there fore no vote required

[-J-]

1)
Hearts become first club to admit they will vote 'no' to newco being allowed in SPL
2)
Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence) United say they cannot vote newco into Spl
Retweeted by BBC Sportsound (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcsportsound)


(https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence)3)
Motherwell have announced they will let the Well Society decide whether or not the club should vote in favour of granting newco Rangers entry to the Scottish Premier League.

3 down 2 to go
starting to think it wont even go to a vote

4)
Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence) On Good Morning Scotland 8.20 am with Liam McLeod To discuss Dundee Utd no to Newco and I'll be able to announce another club voting NO
Retweeted by BBC Sportsound

ONE TO GO

[-J-]

Alasdair Lamont ‏@BBCAlLamont (https://twitter.com/#%21/BBCAlLamont)
Lord Hodge orders inquiry into Duff and Phelps appointment as Rangers administrators
Lord Hodge : "I do not want the administration to come to an end without having received that report." #rfc (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23rfc)
Report demanded by Lord Hodge expected to be ready in 3 weeks and further court hearing likely to be arranged after that.

unrelated
fraud's an interesting word isnt it

1. A deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain.
2. A piece of trickery; a trick.
3. a. One that defrauds; a cheat.
b. One who assumes a false pose; an impostor.

[Middle English fraude, from Old French, from Latin fraus, fraud-.]

in criminal law, a fraud is an i (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent_%28law%29)ntentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual; the related adjective is fraudulent. The specific legal definition varies by legal jurisdiction. Fraud is a crime, and also a civil law violation. Defrauding people or entities of money or valuables is a common purpose of fraud,

[-J-]

Falkirk FC ‏@falkirkbairns (https://twitter.com/#%21/falkirkbairns) CHAIRMAN'S RESPONSE TO RANGERS SITUATION http://fb.me/2eAA8xTYo (http://t.co/8xmJumk4)

[-J-]

get in sami

[-J-]

fgs not that sami #Giorgios Samaras

[Hawkeye]

I have Germany in the work sweep. Quietly confident.

[-J-]

I have Germany in the work sweep. Quietly confident.wouldn't mind seeing them win it or Portugal or France or Spain or even Italy other than that not really fussed

[DaveArneRiise]

England to win on penalties tonight. Mark my words.

[MurrayAOne]

Come on England!!!

[RoastLamb]

I have Germany in the work sweep. Quietly confident.

I think you're right to be confident.


England to win on penalties tonight. Mark my words.

That's funny, that's what my commie said too.


Come on England!!!

Ditto.

[Sallydaisy]

:lol:


Serena Williams ‏@serenawilliams (https://twitter.com/#%21/serenawilliams) Good god this is exciting!! #eurocup2012 (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23eurocup2012) #EnglandVsItaly (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23EnglandVsItaly)

[Linda]

Does that say "buffoon" on the back of that goalie's shirt? :rolling:

[WimbledonAce]

Lol,pens anyone?

[-J-]

Lol,pens anyone?looks like plan a is working, tho more luck than judgement

[RoastLamb]

Quite hoarse shouting at my telly. Another 30 minutes should finish my voice off completely.

[DaveArneRiise]

Rooney is not 100% match fit and it's showing, should of scored that header from Gerrard's free kick in the 75th minute and should have done better with that over head. A 100% fit Rooney would have scored both those chances.

Roy should bring on the Ox, his fresh legs and tricky feet will cause mayhem for the Italians. Just get Young off he's been dire.

[DaveArneRiise]

If this goes to pens this will be England's pen takers in no particular order

Rooney
Gerrard
Ashley Cole
Glen Johnson
Theo Walcott

[DaveArneRiise]

Me during the interval. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiCOmqvWUaw&feature=share)

[DaveArneRiise]

When doomsday comes around, Mark Lawrenson would be the perfect commentator for it.

[-J-]

When doomsday comes around, Mark Lawrenson would be the perfect commentator for it.miserable git

[Linda]

Does anyone keep count of unforced errors in football?

[DaveArneRiise]

Written in the stars for England to win this.

[-J-]

Does anyone keep count of unforced errors in football?sort off
Shots

8 28
On target

4 17

[DaveArneRiise]

The white Pele is kranked!

[-J-]

terrible game now a lottery

[RoastLamb]

:hide:

[-J-]

kinda want england to win.......Germany will horse either these teams

[DaveArneRiise]

Super Mario up first. He's great at pens by the way.

[DaveArneRiise]

Cool as you like from Mario 1-0

Great pen from Gerrard the captain! 1-1

Montolovio for Italy up next and he misses!!! Shoots wide

Rooney scores 2-1 !

Pirlo now for Italy. Chips it down the middle. Class 2-2

Young up now, hits the cross bar :facepalm: still 2-2

Noccerino for Italy slips it in 3-2 Italy

Ashley Cole now, saved

Italy score next they are through. Diamanti scores with east.

Italy though to the semis, England dire form at penalties continues.

[-J-]

peach

[RoastLamb]

Och well, Italy deserved to win in the end. Good defence from England.

[-J-]

well deserved win

[DaveArneRiise]

Yea Italy deserved to win, better team. Simple as that but still England got to penalties and blew it. Ashley Young has been shocking, not surprised he missed his pen.

Justice served in the end though, Italy deserved to advance.

[RoastLamb]

I still think it'll be Spain vs Germany in the final.

[davech]

Italy deserved to win that. We were pretty poor to be honest.

[DaveArneRiise]

I still think it'll be Spain vs Germany in the final.

Those have been the two favourites from outset to be fair. So no real surprise if that is the case.

[WimbledonAce]

Over to Andy then,lol!

[DaveArneRiise]

They should have put that guy from the Mars advert in goal for the shootout.

[RoastLamb]

Italy deserved to win that. We were pretty poor to be honest.

I don't think we were poor. We defended very, very well. They had so many chances and blew them all till the penalties.

[WimbledonAce]

I think they were poor and seemed unfit, shambles.

[DaveArneRiise]

I don't think we were poor. We defended very, very well. They had so many chances and blew them all till the penalties.

If you are going to go out though at least have a go rather than play for a stalemate and try and nick it on pens. So negative, dire wretched tactics to be frank. England have some quality players who in the right set up could play good football and have a go at teams.

England got what they deserved. Simple as that.

[RoastLamb]

I think they were poor and seemed unfit, shambles.

No they weren't. If they had been the score would have been Italy 37 England 0.

[Hawkeye]

So, what have I missed? :big grin:

[WimbledonAce]

No they weren't. If they had been the score would have been Italy 37 England 0.

Lol,think italy gave them a good chance by keep missing!

[ljs]

horns beeping like crazy around me , too bad for England , but Italy will lose next round

[RoastLamb]

Lol,think italy gave them a good chance by keep missing!

England blocked a lot of their goals. I think Germany will kill them.

[-J-]

1)
Hearts become first club to admit they will vote 'no' to newco being allowed in SPL
2)
Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence) United say they cannot vote newco into Spl
Retweeted by BBC Sportsound (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcsportsound)
3)http://www.facebook.com/BBCSportsound
Following a meeting of its Board of Directors, Hibernian FC confirmed that the Club will vote against the transfer of the Rangers share in the SPL to a newco at the General Meeting of SPL clubs on 4 July 2012

[Hawkeye]

I'm unconvinced about Aberdeen and Motherwell.

[-J-]

I'm unconvinced about Aberdeen and Motherwell.yur right i removed them, for now

[traveller7]

I would of prefered to go out on a goal rather than penalties, I hate penalties thats no way to decide a match when two teams have put their all into 2 hours of playing football.
Still I think Spain will win overall.

[-J-]

1)
Hearts become first club to admit they will vote 'no' to newco being allowed in SPL
2)
Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence (https://twitter.com/#!/bbcjimspence) United say they cannot vote newco into Spl
Retweeted by BBC Sportsound (https://twitter.com/#!/bbcsportsound)
3)http://www.facebook.com/BBCSportsound
Following a meeting of its Board of Directors, Hibernian FC confirmed that the Club will vote against the transfer of the Rangers share in the SPL to a newco at the General Meeting of SPL clubs on 4 July 2012


4)Pittodrie Chairman Stewart Milne commented, "As we indicated two weeks ago there are many matters that have to be resolved regarding Rangers. Traditionally we have preferred not to make public our voting intentions, but in light of the level of interest and the fact other clubs have chosen to show their hand, on this occasion I can confirm it is our intention to oppose readmission to the SPL for any Rangers NewCo.

5)
Inverness chairman Kenny Cameron said the club would be in an "untenable position" if they ignored the wishes of their supporters.
"We have listened to all our customers and taken the decision and we now look forward to their support going forward," he said.
"Financially, we examined the various scenarios and, frankly, none of them were positive for our club, it is extremely disappointing to be adversely affected by something not of our doing.
"We have also been contacted by supporters of various other SPL clubs, saying they would not be back to Inverness if we did not accept that sporting integrity was what mattered, but this is something that we had already considered and it is not only the integrity of the SPL that is at stake but the integrity of Scottish football.

done & dusted

[-J-]

1)
Hearts become first club to admit they will vote 'no' to newco being allowed in SPL
2)
Jim Spence ‏@bbcjimspence (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcjimspence) United say they cannot vote newco into Spl
Retweeted by BBC Sportsound (https://twitter.com/#%21/bbcsportsound)
3)http://www.facebook.com/BBCSportsound
Following a meeting of its Board of Directors, Hibernian FC confirmed that the Club will vote against the transfer of the Rangers share in the SPL to a newco at the General Meeting of SPL clubs on 4 July 2012


4)Pittodrie Chairman Stewart Milne commented, "As we indicated two weeks ago there are many matters that have to be resolved regarding Rangers. Traditionally we have preferred not to make public our voting intentions, but in light of the level of interest and the fact other clubs have chosen to show their hand, on this occasion I can confirm it is our intention to oppose readmission to the SPL for any Rangers NewCo.

5)
Inverness chairman Kenny Cameron said the club would be in an "untenable position" if they ignored the wishes of their supporters.
"We have listened to all our customers and taken the decision and we now look forward to their support going forward," he said.
"Financially, we examined the various scenarios and, frankly, none of them were positive for our club, it is extremely disappointing to be adversely affected by something not of our doing.
"We have also been contacted by supporters of various other SPL clubs, saying they would not be back to Inverness if we did not accept that sporting integrity was what mattered, but this is something that we had already considered and it is not only the integrity of the SPL that is at stake but the integrity of Scottish football.

done & dusted

and a little insurance policy
6)
St Johnstone later added: "The board believes that sporting integrity should not be sacrificed in favour of economic expediency.
"It is important that a clear and unambiguous message goes out from the custodians of Scottish football that this sort of scenario should never be allowed to happen again."

[Hawkeye]

One club in particular conspicuous by it's silence...

[-J-]

nice to see other clubs take the lead for a change

[-J-]

now for the big issue
who shall get team 12 berth ?

[Hawkeye]

I don't want it to be Dundee for personal reasons, but if it is then any shortfall from Rangers absence will be more than made up. Our biggest crowds have always been against them.

[VamosVixs]

I don't want it to be Dundee for personal reasons

Why not? We can always joke that they only got into the SPL by default and then watch them get relegated next year! ;) :lol:

[Hawkeye]

I want them out of business for the long term benefit of DUFC.

[VamosVixs]

If there was any chance of that, then it would have happened the last time they went into Admin. Can't see it happening now.

[-J-]

I want them out of business for the long term benefit of DUFC.its ok winning the odd battle, but putting them oot a business is like winning the war
would be a bit ironic if Dundee came up instead of rangers how many times they been administration 2-3 ?

[DaveArneRiise]

Presumably club 12 should be the team who finished runners up in division 1 last season. Was that Dundee? If yes then it should be them. Seems the fairest option.
Or if Scottish football is feeling shrewd got set up playoffs, would bring in some cash.

[Hawkeye]

If there was any chance of that, then it would have happened the last time they went into Admin. Can't see it happening now.I know, but a man can dream...


its ok winning the odd battle, but putting them oot a business is like winning the war
would be a bit ironic if Dundee came up instead of rangers how many times they been administration 2-3 ?Twice, yet they still think that they're the city's big team.

[-J-]

snorefest

[Hawkeye]

nae that good.

[-J-]

bomber brown "revolt" ten times more entertaining, this is heading down MK Dons AFC Wimbledon territory

[Hawkeye]

Good to see Sandy Jardine gnashing his teeth too.

[-J-]

very loyal lapdog

[-J-]

the end game approaches
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18625293

[DaveArneRiise]

It's sad to be honest, the fans deserve better. Club of that prestige and history run into the ground by incompetent board directors.

[DaveArneRiise]

Ze Germans are getting undone by Super Mario! :rolling:

[dewster99]

you realise this means we're better than Germany now ;)

[RoastLamb]

Never thought Germany would lose today. :shocked: Just like with Rafa. Good job Andy got the W.

[Hawkeye]

:crying:

[-J-]

nice statement from Clyde full of common sense
http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/06/30/4134/

[AllyB]

Very well put by Clyde. Rangers to SFL3 will hurt all Scottish clubs financially and could well lead to other clubs (Hearts possibly first?) going to the wall, but if integrity is to come before finance then a fudge to SFL1 is no better than laying out the red carpet directly back into the SPL.

FWIW I think Dunfermline should be Club 12 - if RFC had gone into liquidation during the season then the Pars would have stayed up, and if Duff & Duffer had done things conventionally then that might well have happened.

Still can't believe HMRC won't take action against D&P for mis-managing the administration.

[-J-]

Very well put by Clyde. Rangers to SFL3 will hurt all Scottish clubs financially and could well lead to other clubs (Hearts possibly first?) going to the wall, but if integrity is to come before finance then a fudge to SFL1 is no better than laying out the red carpet directly back into the SPL.

FWIW I think Dunfermline should be Club 12 - if RFC had gone into liquidation during the season then the Pars would have stayed up, and if Duff & Duffer had done things conventionally then that might well have happened.

Still can't believe HMRC won't take action against D&P for mis-managing the administration.cant help but agree, if oldco had been paying paye no doubt they would have went under sooner ironically they might have found it easier relegating oldco if they had went sooner

[DaveArneRiise]

Maybe a playoff game between Dunfermline and Dundee then? Cheeky way for the SPL to make some extra cash as well.

[-J-]

Maybe a playoff game between Dunfermline and Dundee then? Cheeky way for the SPL to make some extra cash as well.trouple with that is its just another fudge, we have three sets of suits running(ruining) Scottish football this stuff has been going for months and they have done nothing,

[RoastLamb]

Vamos Espana! 2-0 at halftime. :yahoo:

[Sallydaisy]

They've just gone 4-0 up. My twitter timeline is going barmy.
Off to read a book.

[VamosVixs]

Congrats Spain!!! :yahoo:

[RoastLamb]

Well done Spain!!! I won a bet too! I'm in the money! :yahoo:

[Hawkeye]

They've just gone 4-0 up. My twitter timeline is going barmy.
Off to read a book.Hopefully not a Grey area...

[RoastLamb]

:lol:

Loving all the wee kids on the pitch. Awwww.

[VamosVixs]

Loving all the wee kids on the pitch. Awwww.

Too cute! :)

[RoastLamb]

FT's daughter Nora is a wee peach!

[Linda]

Well done Spain! Rafa will be very happy! :cheer: :cheer:

[AllyB]

Well done Spain! For a while in the second half I was willing them to be more aggressive for entertainments sake, but the Chelsea contingent took care of that when they came on.

[Linda]

Por eso yo quiero dar
Todo mi corazon
Yo te sigo a todas partes
Gracias por ser espanol

[karanga]

Congratulations to Spain on a brilliant performance.

Hope it cheered Rafa up. :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

[traveller7]

Not the best match ever but well done to Spain for the four goals!

[DaveArneRiise]

Broing, boring Spain :rolleyes:

[AllyB]

Got to feel sorry for Alvaro Arbeloa - the only member of Spain's "first choice" 11 to have failed to make the "team of the tournament".

Busquets never seems to do much in a game, although I suspect they would miss him if he wasn't there.

[AllyB]

What's the odds of changing to a secret ballot and SPL chairmen going back to self-preservation ahead of fans' feelings?

Hope not, but wouldn't be surprised. Scottish football needs to take the chance to weed out bad practices and over reliance on the OF. Yes, a few clubs including my own, could go to the wall but things would eventually settle at a sustainable level. If Sevco get into either SPL or SFL1 then we will be faced with the same situation again very soon.

Loving the fact that apparently Scottish football can't survive without Rangers, yet only a few years ago the OF moving to England was going to make Scottish football more competitive in the long run lol.

[-J-]

i dont think they will vote today, think they will stall till after SFL meeting next week
BTW the two scenrios you give arnt excatly the same are they, with us (celtic) still here its not unreasonable to assume the league tittle is unnatainable for all the other club, if both us and sevco where not around then the league would be far more compedative ( & interesting?)

[AllyB]

i dont think they will vote today, think they will stall till after SFL meeting next week
BTW the two scenrios you give arnt excatly the same are they, with us (celtic) still here its not unreasonable to assume the league tittle is unnatainable for all the other club, if both us and sevco where not around then the league would be far more compedative ( & interesting?)

Fair enough on your second point. As for the first, it could go on forever, as the SFL haven't got anything definite to vote on until the SPL officially decide on whether they'll let Sevco in

[-J-]

Fair enough on your second point. As for the first, it could go on forever, as the SFL haven't got anything definite to vote on until the SPL officially decide on whether they'll let Sevco intrue enough,just picked up on what doncaster was saying today, but i forget doncaster dosnt speak for the clubs. surely someone somewhere gotta bring an end to this farce

[-J-]

SPL (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23SPL) clubs have voted NO to a Newco Rangers being allowed to play in the SPL

[-J-]

BBC Scotland has learned that 10 of the 12 clubs were in opposition, with Kilmarnock abstaining and Rangers voting in favour. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18703183

[DaveArneRiise]

g and Rangers voting in favour.

:rolling:

[Sallydaisy]

Hawkeye again ......

Goal-line technology is set to get the go-ahead when the International Football Association Board (IFAB) vote on Thursday over whether to use it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18719396

[AllyB]

Hawk-Eye designers have told Rangers they can't use the system next season. Apparently it doesn't work with goal posts made from jumpers.

[-J-]

****** farce
http://blogs.channel4.com/alex-thomsons-view/rangers-vote/2201

(i) That the Scottish Football League Members agree to admit Sevco Scotland Limited as an Associate Member and agrees to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the League during Season 2012/13.

(ii) That the Scottish Football League Members direct the Board of Management of The Scottish Football League (the “Board”) to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the Third Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13 unless the Board shall have to its satisfaction negotiated and reached agreement with The Scottish Premier League and The Scottish Football Association on a series of measures which the Board shall consider to be in the best interests of the game, how it is structured, how it is governed and how it is financed, whereupon the Board shall be authorised to provide that Rangers F.C. shall play in the First Division of the Scottish Football League during Season 2012/13.

[AllyB]

Its only a proposal J - can't see the minnows backing it. Having said that, 40 of the 41 member clubs would be financially better off it was Div 1.

[-J-]

Its only a proposal J - can't see the minnows backing it. Having said that, 40 of the 41 member clubs would be financially better off it was Div 1.its a stich up basically it gives the clubs the option to vote them into the SFLbut then leave it to the board to decide which league they will go in
rules are being broken left right and center to accommodate the shower of crooked swindlers, the establishment have colluded for years to keep this lot going nothing changes
new name same auld ....

[Hawkeye]

Its only a proposal J - can't see the minnows backing it. Having said that, 40 of the 41 member clubs would be financially better off it was Div 1.How so?

[AllyB]

Should have said that was opinion not fact. I know its not easy to quantify but in my opinion outwith Celtic the loss of TV money if Rangers were absent for at least 3 years will have a greater affect than any gains at the turnstiles. Personally, I still hope that Div 3 is the decision (and not automatically - other clubs should have the chance to apply)

[Hawkeye]

How does the loss of tv money affect the SFL?

[-J-]

How does the loss of tv money affect the SFL?they get around 30,000 each (iirc) from the settlement when league split

[Hawkeye]

Not buying it. It'll get made up in gate receipts, sponsorship and hospitality. All the scaremongering so far has been proven wholly inaccurate.

#newcotodiv3

[AllyB]

Not buying it. It'll get made up in gate receipts, sponsorship and hospitality. All the scaremongering so far has been proven wholly inaccurate.

#newcotodiv3

You might be right, i'm not convinced. Only time will tell.

[AllyB]

In advance of tomorrow's meeting - does anyone have any idea why Dundee don't get a vote (conflict of interest) but Dunfermline do? I thought Club 12 was still to be decided.

[Hawkeye]

No-one's been able to answer that so far.

[-J-]

Clydes statement on the hole voting farce is a cracker
http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/07/12/4141/
well worth a read

[Hawkeye]

Peterhead's was good as well.

Very disappointed in Brechin City, no surprise given the amount of Rangers fans around though.

[-J-]

being reported servo allowed to join div 3
believe it when I see it

[Hawkeye]

http://oi46.tinypic.com/k97wz.jpg

[-J-]

http://oi46.tinypic.com/k97wz.jpgfactually incorrect servo have been catapulted up to. Div 3 but funny none the less
25 clubs voted against div 1 there was also 1 club voted against them entirely

[DaveArneRiise]

I've heard rumours this Charlie Green fella is one of Craig Whytes puppets and is bad news, lots of Rangers fans dislike the guy.

[-J-]

I've heard rumours this Charlie Green fella is one of Craig Whytes puppets and is bad news, lots of Rangers fans dislike the guy.ye and they have a great track record of spotting a good owner; minty moonbeams & wealth of the radar white

[DaveArneRiise]

ye and they have a great track record of spotting a good owner; minty moonbeams & wealth of the radar white

I think what will happen eventually is that the fans will break away and form their own club.

[-J-]

I think what will happen eventually is that the fans will break away and form their own club.i think(& hope) that may well be their only option

[DaveArneRiise]

JT cleared of charges today. FA will probably conduct separate investigation though. I mean if Suarez got 8 match ban then Terry should get the same no?

[-J-]

JT cleared of charges today. FA will probably conduct separate investigation though. I mean if Suarez got 8 match ban then Terry should get the same no?no, lotlonger ;)

[dewster99]

can't believe terry got away with it. Absolute travesty

[AllyB]

The magistrate seemed to think there was sufficient evidence to prove racist intent. The Suarez precedent seems to suggest the FA only care whether the words were said or not, regardless of intent.

[DaveArneRiise]

The magistrate seemed to think there was sufficient evidence to prove racist intent. The Suarez precedent seems to suggest the FA only care whether the words were said or not, regardless of intent.

In criminal court it has to be proved beyond reasonable doubt.... basically Terry probably called Anton a ******* black ******* but they couldn't be proved beyond reasonable doubt.

Suarez would have been cleared in criminal court too for same reasons

Suarez got the book thrown at him by the FA though so if the FA don't take action against Terry then they are hypocrites basically.

[AllyB]

Just re-read my post above - i meant to put insufficient

[Hawkeye]

Normal service restored in the City of Dundee today... :shades:

[AllyB]

Does that mean you want them in the SPL for a season?

[Hawkeye]

Personally? No.

But yes for football reasons.

[rondun]

Sky Sports would like to apologise to all subscribers for wrongly advertising they could watch Rangers in 3D.
They meant Rangers in D3.

[VamosVixs]

Dundee derbies are back! Bring it on!!!! :swingin:

[Hawkeye]

I'll miss the first one... :crying:

[VamosVixs]

I'll cheer for you!! :swingin::yahoo:http://www.eastfootball.co.uk/forum/images/smilies/th_scarf-utd.gif

[Hawkeye]

Might ask to change my access visit...

[-J-]

Dundee derbies are back! Bring it on!!!! :swingin:enjoy
no more derby'sfor us, oor rivals are dead ;)
looks like i gotta hope PT get promoted

[AllyB]

Sevco-QP will be a massive derby - wonder if Sky will want to cover it?

[-J-]

Sevco-QP will be a massive derby - wonder if Sky will want to cover it?wonder where they will play the QP match
incidentally i see sevocs first match should be in the chip shop cup

[Hawkeye]

And up here at Brechin as well, might just pop along for a mock...

[-J-]

And up here at Brechin as well, might just pop along for a mock...mock the weak ;)

[DaveArneRiise]

Money was surely the motivating factor in Dundee taking up Rangers's place. Dundee derby and all that.

[Hawkeye]

Just seen our potential Europa League opponents, talk about needing a guide book...

[-J-]

Just seen our potential Europa League opponents, talk about needing a guide book...you can work out the UEFA website?, nigh on impossible to get info from there all i could work out is yur in Q3

[Hawkeye]

Either Liverpool, Young Boys of Berne, Dinamo Moscow, Steaua Bucharest, CSKA Sofia, Bursaspor, ND Mura 05 (from a Slovenian backwater) or Zimbru Chisinau (Moldova). Not Moscow please, a nightmare logistically and financially.

[-J-]

potentially some interesting trips right enough, you could end up in some scarey backwards hell hole riddled with criminals & social misfits, but there is only a 12% chance of drawing the scousers ;)

[Hawkeye]

And I won't be stopping in any suspiciously cheap Eastern European hostels...

[-J-]

And I won't be stopping in any suspiciously cheap Eastern European hostels...certainly put you of your game ,
BTW best hostel i ever stayed in was in Belgrade, tho might have a few wee holes in it now

[-J-]

Looks like Eskişehirspor v St Johnstone in the Europa League is free to watch on the host broadcaster's website: http://bit.ly/gwUOp4 (http://t.co/IK8vvkca)

[-J-]

looks like HJK Helsinki for us

[Hawkeye]

Moscow. ****.

[VamosVixs]

I was wanting Liverpool as I was planning on going down there. :crying:

[Hawkeye]

If it can be done, I'm going.

[-J-]

If it can be done, I'm going.typical, might be worth looking at flight via amsterdam tend to be cheaper than london

[VamosVixs]

No way I can afford Moscow plus I am back at work that week.

[Hawkeye]

We're not back until the 13th.

[VamosVixs]

So are our staff, pupils are back on the 15th. Office staff go in the week before.

[-J-]

Celtic vs. HJK Helsinki or ReykjavÃ*k Motherwell vs. Panathinaikos Dundee United vs. Dinamo Moscow Newco vs. east fife

[Hawkeye]

Booked up, visa application done, all systems go for Moscow!

[-J-]

apparently its all kicking off at tannadice tonight, the ruskies are revolting

[-J-]

2-2 final score, respectable still all to play for

[Hawkeye]

The result is irrelevant, only thing making the headlines is the fighting. I'm personally ashamed.

[VamosVixs]

Don't know what happened but all I seen were russians trying to climb into the top tier. Madness!!! :shocked:

[Hawkeye]

Drunks lobbing stuff down on them. They took exception.

[VamosVixs]

Didn't see that but I saw stuff being thrown up. Crazy, now the club will get hammered! :sad:

[Hawkeye]

A numpty on the pitch at the first goal too.

[VamosVixs]

Too busy celebrating to notice.

[-J-]

Drunks lobbing stuff down on them. They took exception.is that from your main stand, was. Being reported it was your suits who where involved, Muppet running on the field isn't so bad think it was about a £7000 fine we got for that

[Hawkeye]

We've got previous though J. Dinamo fans had the wee bottom tier of the Fair Play stand that the away fans are normally in, with United fans above.

[-J-]

I don't get why these clowns do it, your there supporting club you know your club suffers if your out of line , gutted for yous these clowns ruin the day

[Hawkeye]

Press in Russia giving us a really hard time, looks like it's just as well that my Moscow trip is going to be short and sweet.

[DaveArneRiise]

Russians fans are notoriously bad behaved, some of the fan bases at the clubs in Russia are scum.

[VamosVixs]

3-0, easy easy!!! Top of the league!!!

Can we just end the league now?!! :lol::p:p:p

[AllyB]

3-0, easy easy!!! Top of the league!!!

Can we just end the league now?!! :lol::p:p:p

Take a deep breath, and remember who you were playing!

[Hawkeye]

What a fantastic time I had in Moscow, only mildly spoiled by the side trip we made to watch a game of football on the way back to the airport...

[DaveArneRiise]

Drawn Hearts in the Europa, easy win there ;)

[AllyB]

I wouldn't say that, I genuinely think Liverpool have a chance!

[Hawkeye]

The Rangers stroll to 3 consecutive titles gets off to a flyer as they snatch an injury time draw at Peterhead.

[-J-]

oh god young felt domain lot cold in Madrid match hope he's ok

[AllyB]

oh god young felt domain lot cold in Madrid match hope he's ok

in English?

[Sallydaisy]

Esperanto?

[Hawkeye]

A Celtic player got a serious injury in their friendly against Real.

[Hawkeye]

On a serious note, the Scotland manager Craig Levein today lost my confidence as he called up a third division player to the senior squad. To think this man once complained that Scottish football was all about Rangers...

[VamosVixs]

:angry::banghead::furious:

[-J-]

On a serious note, the Scotland manager Craig Levein today lost my confidence as he called up a third division player to the senior squad. To think this man once complained that Scottish football was all about Rangers...10 man defence done it for me

[-J-]

oh I hadn't realised the extent of leveins brown nosing, all of a sudden black international class, based on what? Chip shop cup( did he even play) Or was it his one appearance in the fourth tier of Scottish football?

[Sallydaisy]

1-1 in the footie after England score to level it.

[KnightOwl]

Woohoo! Jordan Rhodes scores to level it at 1-1! Might silence some of the critics :)

[VamosVixs]

1st competitive derby in 7 years!!! Bring it on!!! :yahoo: